Keep in mind that this video is two years old, before Ryzen 3000 came in and kerb stomped everything. My opinions in this video have aged very badly, I'm aware of that.
Also, since then, more recent BIOS updates (from MSI, at least) have become so large that they've had to drop support for the pre-Ryzen APUs, such as you bought. To get a newer supported (and improved) equivalent, you might try the Athlon 200GE or 3000G APUs.
I think we can all see the context of the video. Watching it now, 2 years later, it still all seems very reasonable to me. I was holding off upgrading my almost decade old i7 until the new Zen CPUs dropped precisely because the older Zen CPUs weren't measuring up. So I'd say don't worry about videos aging; they are what they are. (Amusingly, the computer I replaced died soon after the new one arrived. I say "died" because it just wouldn't reboot one day, and I used that as an excuse to just move on over to Linux. For all I know I just needed to do a deeper power cycle.)
It's pretty amazing that we've learned that we have to make sure the BIOS is up to date with new CPUs in order to work. It's the first thing I check anymore.
Great video mate, an honest methodical conclusion to a modern PC repair. Ignore the comments 1 week ago by an obvious non Tech and suspect gamer , "Benchmark poster at best". As a Technician in a different field I know we all have a different route or we`d be robots. You showed your client respect by firstly checking what he owned up to, excessive thermal paste sorted, bad mobo plate sorted, its all good! FASTER does not mean BETTER in any repair as you have shown. keep up the videos as a lot of us may not comment but the Views and subscriptions tell no lies!
Love your channel my dude. Just discovered so I have a back catalogue of itneresting fixes, builds and reviews. Thanks for the content. Love your commentary as well. It shows everyone the logical steps of diagnosis and repair.
I learned how to troubleshoot 25 years ago, and i still build my own rigs. I have encountered every trouble shooting error you show in you're video's. Very fun to watch some one else go down the same rabbit whole. XD Thanks
no shit like come on use google ya intel lover lol 15 mins in and he hasn't even bothered to check if the board supports the chip. moving parts around and hasn't checked CPU support list
@Desktopia ya he was told after an upgrade it wouldn't turn on so first focus should have been on what parts changed but because he so use to only using intel ( and it just working cause intel changes socket more then bios lol ) he didn't bother to confirm compatibility of said new parts
Same here lol I know X370 very very well, have had many come in with this exact issue. My only plus was a customer got a board & cpu combo with this exact cpu and gave it to me as he got a 2700x. Since that time it has been very useful on boards that don't offer bios flashback capabilities.
Yeah I was yelling at my screen about the BIOS too. I have that same board (bought it for $20 brand new on Ryzen 3000 Launch Day), so the first thing i did when i got it home was get an old chip and update the BIOS.
The upcoming chips the 3203 BIOS was referring to was the Ryzen APUs that released around feb 2018 (Ryzen 3 2200G/Ryzen 5 2400G). They were released before the Ryzen 2000 series, but based on the Ryzen 1000 series.
Dude i did it man! I got into the bios and it’s posted! I put in a new CMOS battery CR2032 energizer and reset the jumper thing with the three pins! Currently configuring the bios as I’m posting this comment.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
This has got a sub from me: calm, methodical, effective, not to mention your generosity in the cable re-management. Being the nerd that I am, and not a business man who doesn't need or want to waste his time unnecessarily, I note that the existing BIOS version 3203, which came out in Jan 2018, did appear in the CPU compatibility list against the Ryzen 2400G & GE: the G came out in Feb 2018, whereas the 2600X [which is what I have] didn't come out until April.
I have no problems with the comments you made about the AMD Ryzen. I realize the age of the video and I know the situation now for Ryzen is different from that point in time. I'm currently the proud owner of a 3700x that replaced a 4690k because I wanted something that could handle gaming and streaming simultaneously. Thank you for this video!
There are advantages to having an oversized psu, they tend to be most efficient at about 50-70% utilization, so you can get better efficiency by having a oversized psu vs one that is just big enough. On top of that, because the psu is running at let's say 50%, there will be less heat, and less load in general, so you get less wear on the components, most likely resulting in longer life.
Long story short finally got my Asus x370 Pro motherboard to post by following the steps.I really appreciate your help and getting me back into the swing of building again.
@No_Mercy needed an APU since I didn't have a graphics card at the time. Got it running and update my board to run all my components. Victory after a couple weeks of waiting.
I remember returning an AMD CPU at Fry's , they would test fit it into a board to make sure no bent pins , so I bought electronics tweezers and a magnifying glass and fixed it before I returned it. Took a good while to fix.🤣
wow I'm surprised that brushing that cpu didn't bend anything! Awesome video as usual though, even I'm watching it 4 years after it was published, still so enjoyable.
@@whiplash7400 technically, yes, but that board is still actually in use. In addition, one of the benefits is that it's labelled to match the board, making it a doddle to plug the front panel into and then just plug that into the board. It's even keyed. I think you could quite easily use the same stackable pin headers used for Arduinos for other boards, but I didn't have any to hand while building.
Its not as good as it should be, they have a habit of using pins that too small so the header cables easily fall off. Its also kinda problematic if your case doesn't use all the headers as you have loose pins lying around asking to short to the case.
I salute you Master Pc Jedi your tooth brush tricked like a charm. It was some Arctic ice in the pins. The loo roll was also useful but watch for the paper bits
Its interesting you mention the PSU as few people realise the changes in the ATX specification can be a real pain when trying to use a new PSU in an old computer. It may be better now thanks to LEDs and USB driving the 5V requirements back up again, but when CPUs first switched to a 12V header, PSUs designed for that didn't have enough 5V amps to work with older motherboards that ran the CPU VRM off 5V. (at least that's how I recall it)
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv If the alcohol dries off before you connect the CPU to its socket, it won´t be an issue. Though since LGA is quite sensible to touch, I would hardly encourage not to touch those pins with anything.
@@hossi1330 for future refrence, AMD will send out a loaner cpu to update your bios. If you don't send it back you have to pay for it but the loaner is free.
Sometimes you can buy pretty cheap parts for testing stuff, like those garbage AMD non-ryzen processors and some old but functional GPU's etc.. but of course you still have to pay something for them.
Now that is the proper SOP in troubleshooting your PC that will give you a peace of mind..others (those elitist in the comment section) would've skipped into the bios update and would never spot the excess thermal compound on the CPU pins..great vids as always!
I remember that you had another video awhile back that needed a bios update for the cpu. Surprised you didn't think of that sooner. Glad you figured it out though.
A soft small paint brush?* That’s what I was thinking but I have a feeling it be too soft to fast / effective (not that I experimented), but I think those bristle will go around the metal pins as thet are short and bristles are long and flexable enough. I stopped cringing, just dont angle or push down too hard on the brush I guess. It’s pyshchological, to see a greasy toothbrush, hygene comes to mind in Adams defence. Good honest useful video. (*Some one may scream static @ me, i say wet.)
I just built my pc today and was having post issues I have a amd ryzen 5 3600 paired with a gigabyte b450m ds3h and was at a loss on why I could not get to the bios screen let alone see the display this shed so much light on trouble shooting my parts and what the best remedy is I have a AMD ryzen 2600 cpu arriving tomorrow to put in and get my 3700 to post and keep the other cpu for a later project thanks for the video !
Don't you love the experts who knew what the problem was after a few minutes? I thought your method was fine. I have made many false assumptions when trying to problem solve since I started working with eight bit computers in the eighties with no hard drive and 5.25 inch floppy drives. I was so excited when I installed my first Seagate 5MB hard drive and progressed from green-screen graphics to the Colour Graphics Adapter, playing games like Leisure Suit Larry and Monkey Island.
As soon as I seen the "No Post" I immediately said BIOS needs updating. My Ryzen 7 1700 & MSI B350M Pro-VDH worked out of the box but updated it to the newest BIOS as soon as it booted to make it compatible with Ryzen 9 3700X.
I used to always just run the PSU+CPU+CPU FAN only - no RAM, no graphics, no other wires/connections/monitor/drives, etc. except for 'beeper speaker' if one wasn't already fitted. Then listen for the beeps - if no beeps then CPU is not running - simple! Then feel CPU to see if warm. Once you get beeps, start by adding RAM, then graphics (if required), then boot hard disk, then rest of stuff. step by step until problem is found. It saves time in the end.
Does not like ASUS motherboards, but keeps getting Gigabyte ones that keep failing/problems in one form of another. I am on my 3rd ASUS motherboard. Only changed them when the pc got too old to upgrade.
I had this exact problem when updating from my Ryzen 5 2600x to the Ryzen 7 3700x, felt like crying when it didn't work, some research later, I found i needed to update BIOS from F32 to F40, was relieved when it booted. glad I didn't spend £300 on a paper weight.
Wonder how many customers took there systems back to the shop for refunds or took them to a dodgy shop where they would charge for a new board but only updated the bios or made them pay a lot more.. they do now notify about updating the firmware but back then I bet manufacturers had a nightmare with this.. good that some board support USB flash firmware updating especially when AMD are bringing out new generations CPUs and there no support for them in the firmware. good video... i actually was stumped watching the video until you shown the board's chipset .. i was thinking it was a dodgy reset switch just shorting all the time was my bet.. but when i saw the IO shield I had a shiver go down my back .. so hate them daft cut out on the panel like bloody razor blades too so sharp... anyway good video bit old but your videos are relaxing .. actually I watch a lot of videos and yours is more relaxing than Linus, JaysTwoCents ect lol i only watch 5 minutes of there and Evblogs too long but yours maybe because it reminds me of when I had a shop in UK and how its so similar. Good video
As soon as you started on this one I knew it was a BIOS update. I have a b350 board from my old computer and have just purchased a 3000g and need to update the bios to support it.
@mister.T Jr I will be using my Ryzen 1600 to do the update and then swapping out for the Apu once it's done. Hopefully it will go smoothly, I am doing it today. Fingers crossed.
@mister.T Jr hi. I finished it yesterday evening , two bios updates (one was a bridge bios) but all in all it was a very smooth and straightforward process. The 3000g is better than my expectations.
I love the example he gave for a 1000w PSU in another video! "6 GHz liquid nitrogen cooled CPU and a quad-SLI graphics setup" or something like that haha
Thank you you just saved me I realized my Ryzen 3 3100 doesn't have onboard graphics I was planning to buy and gtx 1060 down the line but apparently to get a post you need a gpu or onboard graphics
Smacks of my problem to the `T`, great diagnosis. If there was a way to flash the bios w/o posting to the bios that would be handy :p guess I'm stuck buying an slightly older cpu - CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 - CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth Cooler - MOBO: ASUS B450 AMD Ryzen 2 Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 (Prime B450M-A/CSM) - RAM: Patriot Viper Elite Series 2666MHz / PC4-21300 / PVE432GG2666C6KGY - PSU: Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W - Chassis: Thermaltake Core V21 SPCC Micro ATX Cube Computer Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
Looks similar to my problem. I'll see if I can download any needed update via my current (to be replaced with the build) Mac Mini. Wild card: At first I got no fans, not even on the PSU. I put the open MoBo on its box and figured out I'd put the Ryzen 5 CPU in sideways. I'm hoping it's not damaged. The pins appeared OK... no force was used. I just lined up the triangle with what I thought was another triangle on the socket. I reset it and got a white LED on the MSI MB. I still haven't found out what that means. No speaker to make beeps, but no video at all. At least now the PSU, CPU and GC fans all work. This is my first build since my last Win machine in about 1995. I went to Mac in about 2000. Now I'm a Linux guy. It's been OK on the Mini but that's starting to be too slow for what even browsers need these days. Wonder what info they're trading as I stare at a video or Facebook. Sometimes that HDD goes crazy!
The reason that the "used" A8 you bought looked so new -it was because it was used for 10 mins to update bios, then listed for sale on Ebay. Simple simple.
great video. I had a similar problem. including the thermo paste on the cpu. Unfortunately my board was compatible with my cpu(tuf game x570 wifi) so it couldnt have been the bios. After replacing every component with the exception of the cpu my build still did not post. So I guess my new ryzen 7 3800x died on me. waiting for my new cpu to test everything out again. I don't for see not posting considering unless I'm extremely unlucky...Good video, it gave me some reassurance that I checked everything possible.
@@zarg05 for me, it was my CPU and GPU. PC working now. Hard to say if my MB was also bad. replaced CPU, MB, and GPU. I feel all 3 were bad. CPU is the last thing you thing could be bad, specifically when is new and it worked initially.
my Ryzen 5 1600 PC died, so I'm just using my Athlon II X4 640 PC because I currently don't have the money to get a new one since I'm unemployed because I got fired from my last job and the COVID-19 pandemic has made it hard to get a new one.
I also had to buy an APU for a BIOS update to my B450 to fit a Ryzen 3600. I've also had a 486 get killed by thermal paste in the socket and on the CPU pins. Cleaning that thing up enough that it could boot reliably was a challenge. Ended up swapping the CPU anyways. Also, I feel called out. (FX4100 OC 4.5GHz, R9 290X. Could challenge my 750w Antec.)
Gents, i had the same problem as you did, but my solution was a bit diffrent. As you, i have a ASROCK 370 X PRO4 and RYZEN 5 1500X and at power up no post but 5 short beeps. At the begining i thought it was the cpu, then the memory, then the mobo but in the end it was the keyboard. Belive it or not my mobo did not recognize my keyboard. To tell the truth i had an old 6-pin mini-DIN connector keyboard, now i have a usb keyboard and everything works perfect. So for those with old keyboards and encountring the problem we did try to change your keyboard firs. Thank you for such great video!
Nice work brother! What is your “go-to” for diagnosing CPUs with likely shorts(soldered on or removable) that won’t POST video? *assumptions: known good ram, power, e.g., min sys configuration to achieve post Thx!!
Hello, I would like to know if I can order the grey adapter you used to plug-in the power cables to the motherboard. Thank you in advance and I love your videos. They’re very helpful.
it's only obvious if you recognize the issues.. building experience/knowledge takes time and effort... in the beginning you lose lots of time, in the end you gain it back :} * it may take you one minute to solve a x370 BIOS issue but it might take you 10 hours to figure out a Lenovo T510s charging problem (that someone can fix in 30min)..
@@duroxkilo well the charging problem is more difficult than a cpu detection...when you see x370 and a ryzen 2 cpu the first thing that comes to your mind as a technician is "missing bios update"
To clean cpu pins and mobo socket did just used 99% isopropyl alcohol? Did you know if there is any risk to clean them in that way? Theorically should be dielectric and volatile so even if penetrates inside should be fine after it dried for good but... You know I want be sure
Oh the old cpu not supported yet issue. Thought it was going to be a need to clear cmos because the ram is at the wrong clock rate or board was shorted or something. Asus is the one that actually WORKS in my experience. My b350 prime can flash in the bios from disc but some directories are not visible for some reason.
I just had to replace 2 X570 Taichi motherboards and a R9 3900X - all of which were covered under warranty. I went to an X570 Aorus Master because I now don't trust Asrock. Plus I have to recommend against buying from Amazon Australia as I did for the CPU because they only give a 30day warranty.
Well, overkilling on the psu can save you money on powerbills. They tend to be more efficient if they run at like 60% capacity instead of 90%. So, you could save money in the long term by spending an extra 20 - 30 dollars on a few more watts.
Corsair and it's iCue RGB range is what you need a 1000w PSU for because when you see someone buy 1 RGB Corsair fan you know he's going to have more than 1 within days
Cleaning thermal paste....break cleaner or thinner Most (99,99%) of electronic parts are cleanable with thinner. I clean PC,Pro amplifiers and TV already for 20 years with it.Some compressed air to help it vaporize on cold days..or parts that are a little affected by thinner. When using break cleaner,take a brand that not leave whiter spots behind..like Wurth..avoid Motip (no problem if you like white spots)
Two days ago in my own build I had almost the exact same problem. But for me, I had simply inserted the 4-pin part of the 20+4 pin power connector in the wrong orientation. I had failed to notice there was a reason for the extra plastic parts sticking out to indicate how the 20-pin and 4-pin parts should be aligned together.
Yeah as someone who just purchased a 2700x and was looking into common build issues, once I saw the 370 on the MoBo, more then lightly BIOS. Also will you be doing a build video when you got all the parts for your new rig?
Client was not charged any extra for that. This video is somewhat obsolete now, what with Ryzen 4000 on the horizon, but that APU paid for itself over the next year with the amount of mobos I BIOS updated with it! In retrospect, I should've bought a second hand Ryzen 1200, as the APU caused problems in some places. But we're about to see all the tables turned on their heads with Zen 3 anyway.
@@Милошмилош-ц2г hope this helps: in some cases (like when new components/issues come to the market) you spend a long time diagnosing a problem. you can't charge for 10hrs of (guess) work, so you lose money/time on the first ones. as times goes by, the same problems reoccur and you're able to fix them quicker and recover the lost time... ps: the actual price is based on location and all that. some places charge $50 for a BIOS update and that's acceptable but in other places $10 may be very expensive...
@@duroxkilo Some of the bad companies I have seen charge £100 for putting in ram sticks! and about £80 for putting in a SSD or hard drive! So imagine how much actual repairs are!
Have a similar no post issue but my PC was working before. 3600 and asrock steel legend. I reseated the ram and then it starts to power cycling and not post.
nice video, i have a b350 pc mate latest bios with 1700, i changed case because my pc fell to the ground and now it wont boot, i tried a lot of what you did and nothing worked, i placed an order for a motherboard speaker to further diagnosticate
Great video. My system was showing exactly the same symptoms on a Ryzen 7 1700 build (Gigabyte board). Only difference was, it was not a new build. This system has run flawless for the last 14 months and only from a normal windows shut-down, I haven't been able to boot again. I've come to the conclusion that it is a motherboard or a processor problem, though I don't have these spares to test. I therefore may buy a new cheap motherboard to eliminate one or the other. I also followed your test procedure as well, before I watched this video. Will let you know how I get on, but thanks.
Did you solve it? I have the same problem with Ryzen 5 1600 on Gigabyte board. More then 16 months, everything worked. Then just no POST with CPU light on. RMAing motherboard twice. They send it back with message that everything is all right. With 2nd RMA they updated MB on BIOS F24 and said, that its working with R5 1600. But not for me, still CPU light on and no POST. Some days later I gave it a last chance before RMA CPU aaaand.....miraculously, it worked. No idea why but I was in BIOS. More then a week PC worked but there was some errors, like 1) PC never woken up from sleep mode, instead the system has rebooted 2) At least 3x there was warning call from American Megatrends that said: "New CPU installed, fTPM NV corrupted or fTPM NV structured changed" but at least I was able to enter into windows. One day I wanted to get into the BIOS for some tweaks (RAM speed etc.), so i hit restart button in Windows aaaand.....I was where I was before. No POST and the CPU light is on and nothing helps. I still think the problem is on the side of the motherboard, especially something with a socket that cannot correctly identify the CPU but there is still small chance, that it is bad CPU. So I would like to know how your problem went, before RMAing MB for the third time.
"Nada" i like your spanish, "Me gusta arreglar computadoras"... Good luck with thats doble rr jajajajaj. I say, the batery!! remove the battery!! but, this was not the case. Great Vid!!
ASUS boards have NEVER failed me or all the people i have recommended em to. Gigabyte and MSI however... Aint touching that, and their AMD bios is recipe for brick.
Ive never had any problems with all three of those motherboards. I think its just the luck of the draw. You get a good one and as long as you don't do anything to it you should be good to go until it finally dies. Currently I have two PCs I built for my son and I. One has MSI motherboard and the other an ASUS and they are doing good. My previous PC that was replaced just because I needed more gaming power was a Gigabyte and someone else has that computer now and they love it.
@@Mictian1980 Yeah, its very possible. However you should check Adamants 450 Gigabyte video, i think that bios mess is a big nono for anyone that values a bios update.
@@brutallica2944 Speaking of Bios. My ASUS motherboard had an update that came out on 4AUG2020 named "1002" I updated the bios and then a week later the update is no longer available on the ASUS site. No reason was given for it being pulled. The latest BIOS update you can get came out in July "0805". Is this something I should be worried about? I still have the 1002 update they pulled from the site on my thumbdrive. My motherboard is the B550 Plus
@@Mictian1980 ive allways gone with tve newest but never used beta bioses. If your pc is table and ram speed is good and voltage is good, no issues. Then id just truck along with the 1002. And not worry about it. www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-bios-1002-pulled.271022/ Have you read this thread?
Brutallica this is the first time I have seen this thread. Thank you for linking it for me! I’m glad I’m not going crazy. So far it’s been good so I lucked out.
Just for the future if motherboard has USB BIOS Port u can update it without any component, just motherboard and PSU. Make BIOS image extracted and renamed file type into usb ("brand_board_name.ROM") and its auto update alone ;D. (if it has led indicators u will know when it start and when its finish)
I just built a pc. Ryzon 5 3600 with MSI X570 Pro. No post. I salvaged some parts from old pc ie power supply HDD Rom drive. Having same problem. I sent MB back and got replacement still not posting. sent CPU back awaiting replacement. after watching your video I think I may still have problem. HDD graphics card and PSU definitely work as I put back in old pc so I can stream music video and get online.
@@GoldSrc_ Why? What's wrong with my method? In 20 years of PC building I've never experienced any issues. If one uses a heatsink with pre-applied thermal compound, it's spread in thin uniform layer, just like my method!
@@marcse7en That's what you think, but that layer is never uniform. You always let the heatsink do the spreading so it conforms to the microscopic holes on the surface. You can actually create air gaps if you spread it and then put the heatsink on. It might have little to no effect, but that's how it works.
@@GoldSrc_ Like I said, I've been building PCs for 20 years, and according to you, I've been doing it all WRONG? And WHY do heatsinks with pre-applied thermal compound come with said compound spread in a THIN EVEN LAYER, and NOT as your (apparently) oh so superior method??? Unlike YOU, I really don't want to argue over this, and now I have some friendly advice for YOU! Don't try to teach your Grandfather how to "suck eggs"! 😂😂😂 You go your way, and I'll go mine.
@@marcse7en Heatsinks come with pre applied thermal compound because they do the spreading. Your method has worked, but that doesn't mean it's the right way to do it, you could eat ice cream from a bucket with your hands if you wanted, does it work? sure, it's the correct way to do it? probably not.
Seriously dat cable tie on the 4+2 PCI-E triggered me immensely. Why would you do that? That cable has a little plastic clap to hold it together. This one didn't?
thats the #1 biggest inconvenience for all people, on the companies error for not taking responsibility on something so simple but yet so problematic for the buyer, an incompatibility issues for a Bios Update, I ask how could this be prevented? cuz one shouldn't have to "BUY" an older CPU just to get ur New CPU to Work. So how can this be sorted out? probably never LoL right, we all know a Bigg Companies are not going to go out there ways for us the Little people make sure the customer gets what they paid for, no we all know why.
hello there you have very good and clear explain .its really very good helpfull.i got the same problems.i try to solve your way.but the problem is still now BIOS not shown up.do have any more idea.can you give me any advice please.
Keep in mind that this video is two years old, before Ryzen 3000 came in and kerb stomped everything. My opinions in this video have aged very badly, I'm aware of that.
i really like how u do ur "diagnose steps", sir.
thank you for sharing this video
I thought you were super honest in that video and we are learning new all the time, yes Ryzen has grown up. sorry for my bad english..... i'm danish
Also, since then, more recent BIOS updates (from MSI, at least) have become so large that they've had to drop support for the pre-Ryzen APUs, such as you bought. To get a newer supported (and improved) equivalent, you might try the Athlon 200GE or 3000G APUs.
I think we can all see the context of the video. Watching it now, 2 years later, it still all seems very reasonable to me. I was holding off upgrading my almost decade old i7 until the new Zen CPUs dropped precisely because the older Zen CPUs weren't measuring up. So I'd say don't worry about videos aging; they are what they are.
(Amusingly, the computer I replaced died soon after the new one arrived. I say "died" because it just wouldn't reboot one day, and I used that as an excuse to just move on over to Linux. For all I know I just needed to do a deeper power cycle.)
It's pretty amazing that we've learned that we have to make sure the BIOS is up to date with new CPUs in order to work. It's the first thing I check anymore.
Those few times that bios flashback is worth its weight in gold
Great video mate, an honest methodical conclusion to a modern PC repair. Ignore the comments 1 week ago by an obvious non Tech and suspect gamer , "Benchmark poster at best". As a Technician in a different field I know we all have a different route or we`d be robots. You showed your client respect by firstly checking what he owned up to, excessive thermal paste sorted, bad mobo plate sorted, its all good! FASTER does not mean BETTER in any repair as you have shown. keep up the videos as a lot of us may not comment but the Views and subscriptions tell no lies!
Same thoughts
Love your channel my dude. Just discovered so I have a back catalogue of itneresting fixes, builds and reviews. Thanks for the content. Love your commentary as well. It shows everyone the logical steps of diagnosis and repair.
I learned how to troubleshoot 25 years ago, and i still build my own rigs. I have encountered every trouble shooting error you show in you're video's. Very fun to watch some one else go down the same rabbit whole. XD Thanks
This video has aged so much, I suppose its a good case study in how we get used to all the issues with the status quo.
30 seconds into the video i was yelling at my screen "bios update!!!!!"
Haha same!
no shit like come on use google ya intel lover lol 15 mins in and he hasn't even bothered to check if the board supports the chip. moving parts around and hasn't checked CPU support list
@Desktopia ya he was told after an upgrade it wouldn't turn on so first focus should have been on what parts changed but because he so use to only using intel
( and it just working cause intel changes socket more then bios lol )
he didn't bother to confirm compatibility of said new parts
Same here lol I know X370 very very well, have had many come in with this exact issue. My only plus was a customer got a board & cpu combo with this exact cpu and gave it to me as he got a 2700x. Since that time it has been very useful on boards that don't offer bios flashback capabilities.
Yeah I was yelling at my screen about the BIOS too. I have that same board (bought it for $20 brand new on Ryzen 3000 Launch Day), so the first thing i did when i got it home was get an old chip and update the BIOS.
The upcoming chips the 3203 BIOS was referring to was the Ryzen APUs that released around feb 2018 (Ryzen 3 2200G/Ryzen 5 2400G). They were released before the Ryzen 2000 series, but based on the Ryzen 1000 series.
Dude i did it man! I got into the bios and it’s posted! I put in a new CMOS battery CR2032 energizer and reset the jumper thing with the three pins! Currently configuring the bios as I’m posting this comment.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
This has got a sub from me: calm, methodical, effective, not to mention your generosity in the cable re-management. Being the nerd that I am, and not a business man who doesn't need or want to waste his time unnecessarily, I note that the existing BIOS version 3203, which came out in Jan 2018, did appear in the CPU compatibility list against the Ryzen 2400G & GE: the G came out in Feb 2018, whereas the 2600X [which is what I have] didn't come out until April.
I really like your videos, they are construtive and full of vital information, no fussing around, just plain and simple! Keep up the good work! :-)
Liked that fact that you used bios beeper and also 100% agree on not having an igpu
I don't understand why integrated graphics changed from on-board to "on-CPU"!
I have no problems with the comments you made about the AMD Ryzen. I realize the age of the video and I know the situation now for Ryzen is different from that point in time. I'm currently the proud owner of a 3700x that replaced a 4690k because I wanted something that could handle gaming and streaming simultaneously. Thank you for this video!
it works thank you so much anyone who is still going through this dont give up
There are advantages to having an oversized psu, they tend to be most efficient at about 50-70% utilization, so you can get better efficiency by having a oversized psu vs one that is just big enough. On top of that, because the psu is running at let's say 50%, there will be less heat, and less load in general, so you get less wear on the components, most likely resulting in longer life.
Yep, still on 1200W PSU for my i5-2500k (non OC) / 1070Ti. MB/CPU from 2011. Still fine for me - gaming + development Win7/POPOS
Long story short finally got my Asus x370 Pro motherboard to post by following the steps.I really appreciate your help and getting me back into the swing of building again.
@No_Mercy needed an APU since I didn't have a graphics card at the time. Got it running and update my board to run all my components. Victory after a couple weeks of waiting.
@No_Mercy Thats optional, tech can do that
Sorry I couldn't help more
I remember returning an AMD CPU at Fry's , they would test fit it into a board to make sure no bent pins , so I bought electronics tweezers and a magnifying glass and fixed it before I returned it. Took a good while to fix.🤣
Lol you sly fox
I've become a big fan of this channel, I enjoy watching you diagnose and repair PC's. Great work.
wow I'm surprised that brushing that cpu didn't bend anything! Awesome video as usual though, even I'm watching it 4 years after it was published, still so enjoyable.
That intermediate/removable header for the front panel connections is a really neat idea.
It's a standard feature on ASUS boards, it think.
It is indeed great, really missed that moving to a Gigabyte board for my Ryzen.
@@TheTurnipKing Surely you could have used the same one from your old board on the new one?
@@whiplash7400 technically, yes, but that board is still actually in use. In addition, one of the benefits is that it's labelled to match the board, making it a doddle to plug the front panel into and then just plug that into the board. It's even keyed.
I think you could quite easily use the same stackable pin headers used for Arduinos for other boards, but I didn't have any to hand while building.
Its not as good as it should be, they have a habit of using pins that too small so the header cables easily fall off. Its also kinda problematic if your case doesn't use all the headers as you have loose pins lying around asking to short to the case.
I salute you Master Pc Jedi your tooth brush tricked like a charm. It was some Arctic ice in the pins. The loo roll was also useful but watch for the paper bits
Yep, called it. Seeing that board I sat there going "is that an A320, B350 or X370 chipset?" off comes the GPU, yeeep, X370, needs a BIOS update.
I like these kind of youtube channels. I've also run into this kind of issues though I remember it was a q6600 system, the socket was hard to clean...
Thank you for the video!I learn so many things watching your videos, great job!!
The Ryzen chips that have integrated graphics are the ones with a G at the end and the A series APUs of course.
Its interesting you mention the PSU as few people realise the changes in the ATX specification can be a real pain when trying to use a new PSU in an old computer. It may be better now thanks to LEDs and USB driving the 5V requirements back up again, but when CPUs first switched to a 12V header, PSUs designed for that didn't have enough 5V amps to work with older motherboards that ran the CPU VRM off 5V. (at least that's how I recall it)
I was surprise to see you spray alcohol stray into the socket. Good to know you can do that. Wasn't sure that was possible. Thank you
AMD sockets don't have pins, instead they are on the CPU. I wouldn't do that with an Intel socket
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv If the alcohol dries off before you connect the CPU to its socket, it won´t be an issue. Though since LGA is quite sensible to touch, I would hardly encourage not to touch those pins with anything.
Best diagnose / troubleshoot video ever, but still i unable to do all that, i dont have extra gpu, extra cpu to check the Bios, 🤦♂️
same problem
@@hossi1330 for future refrence, AMD will send out a loaner cpu to update your bios. If you don't send it back you have to pay for it but the loaner is free.
@@animeman64 They send you an Athlon 200ge. The think is, you need a half recent BIOS version to check it too.
Did they stop including the feature that lets you reflash without a cpu? Seems like a step backward, if so.
Sometimes you can buy pretty cheap parts for testing stuff, like those garbage AMD non-ryzen processors and some old but functional GPU's etc.. but of course you still have to pay something for them.
Now that is the proper SOP in troubleshooting your PC that will give you a peace of mind..others (those elitist in the comment section) would've skipped into the bios update and would never spot the excess thermal compound on the CPU pins..great vids as always!
I remember that you had another video awhile back that needed a bios update for the cpu. Surprised you didn't think of that sooner. Glad you figured it out though.
Although in your opinion this took to long, I loved it. This really help me learn. Thanks For Sharing!
I finally found the video where you bought that AMD A8 cpu.
Awesome video. Really gives me the knowledge to properly troubleshoot a pc that doesn't boot.
Informative and honest - thanks again :) Id get you to troubleshoot any computer issue I couldn't handle, if I wasn't in the colonies down-under ;)
seeing the cpu and socket being cleaned made me feel physical pain
A soft small paint brush?* That’s what I was thinking but I have a feeling it be too soft to fast / effective (not that I experimented), but I think those bristle will go around the metal pins as thet are short and bristles are long and flexable enough. I stopped cringing, just dont angle or push down too hard on the brush I guess. It’s pyshchological, to see a greasy toothbrush, hygene comes to mind in Adams defence. Good honest useful video. (*Some one may scream static @ me, i say wet.)
I just built my pc today and was having post issues I have a amd ryzen 5 3600 paired with a gigabyte b450m ds3h and was at a loss on why I could not get to the bios screen let alone see the display this shed so much light on trouble shooting my parts and what the best remedy is I have a AMD ryzen 2600 cpu arriving tomorrow to put in and get my 3700 to post and keep the other cpu for a later project thanks for the video !
Don't you love the experts who knew what the problem was after a few minutes? I thought your method was fine. I have made many false assumptions when trying to problem solve since I started working with eight bit computers in the eighties with no hard drive and 5.25 inch floppy drives. I was so excited when I installed my first Seagate 5MB hard drive and progressed from green-screen graphics to the Colour Graphics Adapter, playing games like Leisure Suit Larry and Monkey Island.
The episode like this turn me on to build PC or work on my projects.
5mins into the video i already knew what the problem is and confirm when i saw the motherboard model i was talking to myself bios update bios update.
You may not like ASUS boards but their slogan really describes your work well: "In search for the incredible".
Honestly I'm ready to bury the hatchet with Asus... their modern stuff is great and I don't seem to see dead ones all the time like I used to.
As soon as I seen the "No Post" I immediately said BIOS needs updating.
My Ryzen 7 1700 & MSI B350M Pro-VDH worked out of the box but updated it to the newest BIOS as soon as it booted to make it compatible with Ryzen 9 3700X.
you shouldn't be running a ryzen 9 3700X on that motherboard if you are...
It can make the VRMs run at excessive heat and excessive heat may kill the motherboard. the B350 or X370's VRMs are just too wimpy for those CPUs.
Love ASUS MB for Ryzen, on my third one now (2 PCs plus an upgrade for 3600 to a TUF gaming one). Easy to overclock on and configure
My ROG Strix B550-F board is so good.
I used to always just run the PSU+CPU+CPU FAN only - no RAM, no graphics, no other wires/connections/monitor/drives, etc. except for 'beeper speaker' if one wasn't already fitted. Then listen for the beeps - if no beeps then CPU is not running - simple! Then feel CPU to see if warm. Once you get beeps, start by adding RAM, then graphics (if required), then boot hard disk, then rest of stuff. step by step until problem is found. It saves time in the end.
it's never the cpu excpet when it is..... i love the way you work. thanks for sharing.
Love the videos bro, very informative! Once you called out the MOBO I said BIOS update lol!
Does not like ASUS motherboards, but keeps getting Gigabyte ones that keep failing/problems in one form of another. I am on my 3rd ASUS motherboard. Only changed them when the pc got too old to upgrade.
I had this exact problem when updating from my Ryzen 5 2600x to the Ryzen 7 3700x, felt like crying when it didn't work, some research later, I found i needed to update BIOS from F32 to F40, was relieved when it booted. glad I didn't spend £300 on a paper weight.
Wonder how many customers took there systems back to the shop for refunds or took them to a dodgy shop where they would charge for a new board but only updated the bios or made them pay a lot more.. they do now notify about updating the firmware but back then I bet manufacturers had a nightmare with this.. good that some board support USB flash firmware updating especially when AMD are bringing out new generations CPUs and there no support for them in the firmware. good video... i actually was stumped watching the video until you shown the board's chipset .. i was thinking it was a dodgy reset switch just shorting all the time was my bet.. but when i saw the IO shield I had a shiver go down my back .. so hate them daft cut out on the panel like bloody razor blades too so sharp... anyway good video bit old but your videos are relaxing .. actually I watch a lot of videos and yours is more relaxing than Linus, JaysTwoCents ect lol i only watch 5 minutes of there and Evblogs too long but yours maybe because it reminds me of when I had a shop in UK and how its so similar. Good video
I found this very useful and informative. Thanks.
I've seen Standoff's Shorting the MB in the wrong place causing issues before.
As soon as you started on this one I knew it was a BIOS update. I have a b350 board from my old computer and have just purchased a 3000g and need to update the bios to support it.
@mister.T Jr I will be using my Ryzen 1600 to do the update and then swapping out for the Apu once it's done. Hopefully it will go smoothly, I am doing it today. Fingers crossed.
@mister.T Jr hi. I finished it yesterday evening , two bios updates (one was a bridge bios) but all in all it was a very smooth and straightforward process. The 3000g is better than my expectations.
@mister.T Jr totally agree CPUless bios updates would be a lot easier.
The thermal paste one helped me. Thanks
Nicely done, I was beginning to wonder if the Reset switch was faulty S/C.
I think big PSU's are a carryover from an age where people might have a LOT of spinning drives in addition to big wattage CPUS.
Yep but also big thirsty multi graphics card set ups.
I love the example he gave for a 1000w PSU in another video! "6 GHz liquid nitrogen cooled CPU and a quad-SLI graphics setup" or something like that haha
This was a great watch. I've been having the same problem.
27:05
bruuhhh omg HAHA
what have you been doing back there?? XDD
i laughed so hard XD
shmeat
Thank you you just saved me I realized my Ryzen 3 3100 doesn't have onboard graphics I was planning to buy and gtx 1060 down the line but apparently to get a post you need a gpu or onboard graphics
Smacks of my problem to the `T`, great diagnosis. If there was a way to flash the bios w/o posting to the bios that would be handy :p guess I'm stuck buying an slightly older cpu
- CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
- CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth Cooler
- MOBO: ASUS B450 AMD Ryzen 2 Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 (Prime B450M-A/CSM)
- RAM: Patriot Viper Elite Series 2666MHz / PC4-21300 / PVE432GG2666C6KGY
- PSU: Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W
- Chassis: Thermaltake Core V21 SPCC Micro ATX Cube Computer Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
Your video saved my ass! I was having the exact same problem with the exact same cpu. Thank you so much!
And thats why I only buy mobo's with debug LED's on them. Let the mobo tell you exactly what's wrong rather than have to troubleshoot for hours.
Debug led's and bios flashback
Looks similar to my problem. I'll see if I can download any needed update via my current (to be replaced with the build) Mac Mini.
Wild card: At first I got no fans, not even on the PSU. I put the open MoBo on its box and figured out I'd put the Ryzen 5 CPU in sideways. I'm hoping it's not damaged. The pins appeared OK... no force was used. I just lined up the triangle with what I thought was another triangle on the socket. I reset it and got a white LED on the MSI MB. I still haven't found out what that means. No speaker to make beeps, but no video at all. At least now the PSU, CPU and GC fans all work.
This is my first build since my last Win machine in about 1995. I went to Mac in about 2000. Now I'm a Linux guy. It's been OK on the Mini but that's starting to be too slow for what even browsers need these days. Wonder what info they're trading as I stare at a video or Facebook. Sometimes that HDD goes crazy!
The reason that the "used" A8 you bought looked so new -it was because it was used for 10 mins to update bios, then listed for sale on Ebay. Simple simple.
great video. I had a similar problem. including the thermo paste on the cpu. Unfortunately my board was compatible with my cpu(tuf game x570 wifi) so it couldnt have been the bios. After replacing every component with the exception of the cpu my build still did not post. So I guess my new ryzen 7 3800x died on me. waiting for my new cpu to test everything out again. I don't for see not posting considering unless I'm extremely unlucky...Good video, it gave me some reassurance that I checked everything possible.
im having same problem with a ryzen 5 3600 and X570 Pro. no post. sent MB back got replacent. no post. Now sent cup back
@@zarg05 for me, it was my CPU and GPU. PC working now. Hard to say if my MB was also bad. replaced CPU, MB, and GPU. I feel all 3 were bad. CPU is the last thing you thing could be bad, specifically when is new and it worked initially.
@@zarg05 cup? CPU? Does your mb have integrated graphics? Mine didnt so I was not able to check mb a different way. Good luck
my Ryzen 5 1600 PC died, so I'm just using my Athlon II X4 640 PC because I currently don't have the money to get a new one since I'm unemployed because I got fired from my last job and the COVID-19 pandemic has made it hard to get a new one.
I also had to buy an APU for a BIOS update to my B450 to fit a Ryzen 3600.
I've also had a 486 get killed by thermal paste in the socket and on the CPU pins.
Cleaning that thing up enough that it could boot reliably was a challenge. Ended up swapping the CPU anyways.
Also, I feel called out. (FX4100 OC 4.5GHz, R9 290X. Could challenge my 750w Antec.)
Gents, i had the same problem as you did, but my solution was a bit diffrent. As you, i have a ASROCK 370 X PRO4 and RYZEN 5 1500X and at power up no post but 5 short beeps. At the begining i thought it was the cpu, then the memory, then the mobo but in the end it was the keyboard. Belive it or not my mobo did not recognize my keyboard. To tell the truth i had an old 6-pin mini-DIN connector keyboard, now i have a usb keyboard and everything works perfect. So for those with old keyboards and encountring the problem we did try to change your keyboard firs.
Thank you for such great video!
Nice work brother! What is your “go-to” for diagnosing CPUs with likely shorts(soldered on or removable) that won’t POST video?
*assumptions: known good ram, power, e.g., min sys configuration to achieve post
Thx!!
Hello, I would like to know if I can order the grey adapter you used to plug-in the power cables to the motherboard. Thank you in advance and I love your videos. They’re very helpful.
Well this was straight obvious as soon as i saw x370, was pretty sure it didn't had the bios update😂
Foarte fain ca a aratat si metoda lui de a ajunge la problema. :)
it's only obvious if you recognize the issues.. building experience/knowledge takes time and effort... in the beginning you lose lots of time, in the end you gain it back :}
* it may take you one minute to solve a x370 BIOS issue but it might take you 10 hours to figure out a Lenovo T510s charging problem (that someone can fix in 30min)..
@@duroxkilo well the charging problem is more difficult than a cpu detection...when you see x370 and a ryzen 2 cpu the first thing that comes to your mind as a technician is "missing bios update"
To clean cpu pins and mobo socket did just used 99% isopropyl alcohol?
Did you know if there is any risk to clean them in that way? Theorically should be dielectric and volatile so even if penetrates inside should be fine after it dried for good but... You know I want be sure
Oh the old cpu not supported yet issue. Thought it was going to be a need to clear cmos because the ram is at the wrong clock rate or board was shorted or something. Asus is the one that actually WORKS in my experience. My b350 prime can flash in the bios from disc but some directories are not visible for some reason.
My ryzen 3 3300x happened the same thing, I updated the bios to the lastest version and still no signal. I don't know what to do.
Mobo is b350m ds3h-v2 updated to F51
11:57 yes, either you keep the lowest end crap or high tier testing parts to avoid selling them to your clients for a pack of rice.
At least you have an AMD APU now. And for 40 bucks. Can't complain.
I just had to replace 2 X570 Taichi motherboards and a R9 3900X - all of which were covered under warranty. I went to an X570 Aorus Master because I now don't trust Asrock. Plus I have to recommend against buying from Amazon Australia as I did for the CPU because they only give a 30day warranty.
Well, overkilling on the psu can save you money on powerbills. They tend to be more efficient if they run at like 60% capacity instead of 90%. So, you could save money in the long term by spending an extra 20 - 30 dollars on a few more watts.
sweet motherboard setup even if theirs no post speaker i watch the fan to see if it speeds and up slows down
Corsair and it's iCue RGB range is what you need a 1000w PSU for because when you see someone buy 1 RGB Corsair fan you know he's going to have more than 1 within days
Cleaning thermal paste....break cleaner or thinner
Most (99,99%) of electronic parts are cleanable with thinner.
I clean PC,Pro amplifiers and TV already for 20 years with it.Some compressed air to help it vaporize on cold days..or parts that are a little affected by thinner.
When using break cleaner,take a brand that not leave whiter spots behind..like Wurth..avoid Motip (no problem if you like white spots)
Two days ago in my own build I had almost the exact same problem. But for me, I had simply inserted the 4-pin part of the 20+4 pin power connector in the wrong orientation. I had failed to notice there was a reason for the extra plastic parts sticking out to indicate how the 20-pin and 4-pin parts should be aligned together.
Could have tried the cpu on another mb too. Love your work!
Yeah as someone who just purchased a 2700x and was looking into common build issues, once I saw the 370 on the MoBo, more then lightly BIOS. Also will you be doing a build video when you got all the parts for your new rig?
curious to know how much he charged the client considering he had to pay for the apu
Client was not charged any extra for that. This video is somewhat obsolete now, what with Ryzen 4000 on the horizon, but that APU paid for itself over the next year with the amount of mobos I BIOS updated with it!
In retrospect, I should've bought a second hand Ryzen 1200, as the APU caused problems in some places. But we're about to see all the tables turned on their heads with Zen 3 anyway.
@@Adamant_IT so how much did u charge for this repair?
@@Милошмилош-ц2г He ain't gonna tell you that! 😂😂😂
@@Милошмилош-ц2г hope this helps:
in some cases (like when new components/issues come to the market) you spend a long time diagnosing a problem. you can't charge for 10hrs of (guess) work, so you lose money/time on the first ones.
as times goes by, the same problems reoccur and you're able to fix them quicker and recover the lost time...
ps: the actual price is based on location and all that. some places charge $50 for a BIOS update and that's acceptable but in other places $10 may be very expensive...
@@duroxkilo Some of the bad companies I have seen charge £100 for putting in ram sticks! and about £80 for putting in a SSD or hard drive! So imagine how much actual repairs are!
Have a similar no post issue but my PC was working before. 3600 and asrock steel legend. I reseated the ram and then it starts to power cycling and not post.
I knew what it was from the start, had to buy that APU when i got my cpu upgrade.
nice video, i have a b350 pc mate latest bios with 1700, i changed case because my pc fell to the ground and now it wont boot, i tried a lot of what you did and nothing worked, i placed an order for a motherboard speaker to further diagnosticate
I saw X370 with a Ryzen 5 2600X and immediately thought BIOS update.
Great video. My system was showing exactly the same symptoms on a Ryzen 7 1700 build (Gigabyte board). Only difference was, it was not a new build. This system has run flawless for the last 14 months and only from a normal windows shut-down, I haven't been able to boot again. I've come to the conclusion that it is a motherboard or a processor problem, though I don't have these spares to test. I therefore may buy a new cheap motherboard to eliminate one or the other. I also followed your test procedure as well, before I watched this video. Will let you know how I get on, but thanks.
Did you solve it? I have the same problem with Ryzen 5 1600 on Gigabyte board. More then 16 months, everything worked. Then just no POST with CPU light on. RMAing motherboard twice. They send it back with message that everything is all right. With 2nd RMA they updated MB on BIOS F24 and said, that its working with R5 1600. But not for me, still CPU light on and no POST. Some days later I gave it a last chance before RMA CPU aaaand.....miraculously, it worked. No idea why but I was in BIOS. More then a week PC worked but there was some errors, like 1) PC never woken up from sleep mode, instead the system has rebooted 2) At least 3x there was warning call from American Megatrends that said: "New CPU installed, fTPM NV corrupted or fTPM NV structured changed" but at least I was able to enter into windows. One day I wanted to get into the BIOS for some tweaks (RAM speed etc.), so i hit restart button in Windows aaaand.....I was where I was before. No POST and the CPU light is on and nothing helps. I still think the problem is on the side of the motherboard, especially something with a socket that cannot correctly identify the CPU but there is still small chance, that it is bad CPU.
So I would like to know how your problem went, before RMAing MB for the third time.
"Nada" i like your spanish, "Me gusta arreglar computadoras"... Good luck with thats doble rr jajajajaj. I say, the batery!! remove the battery!! but, this was not the case.
Great Vid!!
I NOTICED THE BIOS UPDATE FROM THE BEGINING
Looking back on this 6 years later, I see one schoolboy error. A lot of motherboards won’t start, if you don’t have a cpu fan plugged in.
you read on bios page "to support new CPUS" but the bios above that said the same... so that one was for 1000series ryzens and the next for 2000
ASUS boards have NEVER failed me or all the people i have recommended em to.
Gigabyte and MSI however... Aint touching that, and their AMD bios is recipe for brick.
Ive never had any problems with all three of those motherboards. I think its just the luck of the draw. You get a good one and as long as you don't do anything to it you should be good to go until it finally dies. Currently I have two PCs I built for my son and I. One has MSI motherboard and the other an ASUS and they are doing good. My previous PC that was replaced just because I needed more gaming power was a Gigabyte and someone else has that computer now and they love it.
@@Mictian1980 Yeah, its very possible. However you should check Adamants 450 Gigabyte video, i think that bios mess is a big nono for anyone that values a bios update.
@@brutallica2944 Speaking of Bios. My ASUS motherboard had an update that came out on 4AUG2020 named "1002" I updated the bios and then a week later the update is no longer available on the ASUS site. No reason was given for it being pulled. The latest BIOS update you can get came out in July "0805". Is this something I should be worried about? I still have the 1002 update they pulled from the site on my thumbdrive. My motherboard is the B550 Plus
@@Mictian1980 ive allways gone with tve newest but never used beta bioses.
If your pc is table and ram speed is good and voltage is good, no issues. Then id just truck along with the 1002. And not worry about it.
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-bios-1002-pulled.271022/
Have you read this thread?
Brutallica this is the first time I have seen this thread. Thank you for linking it for me! I’m glad I’m not going crazy. So far it’s been good so I lucked out.
Just for the future if motherboard has USB BIOS Port u can update it without any component, just motherboard and PSU. Make BIOS image extracted and renamed file type into usb ("brand_board_name.ROM") and its auto update alone ;D. (if it has led indicators u will know when it start and when its finish)
Done a BIOS update, still not working, help?!
I just built a pc. Ryzon 5 3600 with MSI X570 Pro. No post. I salvaged some parts from old pc ie power supply HDD Rom drive. Having same problem. I sent MB back and got replacement still not posting. sent CPU back awaiting replacement. after watching your video I think I may still have problem. HDD graphics card and PSU definitely work as I put back in old pc so I can stream music video and get online.
I use a Credit Card to apply a thin uniform layer of Thermal Paste over the entire surface of the CPU heat spreader.
Don't do that, let the heatsink do the spreading.
@@GoldSrc_ Why? What's wrong with my method? In 20 years of PC building I've never experienced any issues.
If one uses a heatsink with pre-applied thermal compound, it's spread in thin uniform layer, just like my method!
@@marcse7en That's what you think, but that layer is never uniform.
You always let the heatsink do the spreading so it conforms to the microscopic holes on the surface. You can actually create air gaps if you spread it and then put the heatsink on.
It might have little to no effect, but that's how it works.
@@GoldSrc_ Like I said, I've been building PCs for 20 years, and according to you, I've been doing it all WRONG? And WHY do heatsinks with pre-applied thermal compound come with said compound spread in a THIN EVEN LAYER, and NOT as your (apparently) oh so superior method???
Unlike YOU, I really don't want to argue over this, and now I have some friendly advice for YOU! Don't try to teach your Grandfather how to "suck eggs"! 😂😂😂
You go your way, and I'll go mine.
@@marcse7en Heatsinks come with pre applied thermal compound because they do the spreading.
Your method has worked, but that doesn't mean it's the right way to do it, you could eat ice cream from a bucket with your hands if you wanted, does it work? sure, it's the correct way to do it? probably not.
Seriously dat cable tie on the 4+2 PCI-E triggered me immensely. Why would you do that? That cable has a little plastic clap to hold it together. This one didn't?
thats the #1 biggest inconvenience for all people, on the companies error for not taking responsibility on something so simple but yet so problematic for the buyer, an incompatibility issues for a Bios Update, I ask how could this be prevented? cuz one shouldn't have to "BUY" an older CPU just to get ur New CPU to Work. So how can this be sorted out? probably never LoL right, we all know a Bigg Companies are not going to go out there ways for us the Little people make sure the customer gets what they paid for, no we all know why.
called it straight up
hello there you have very good and clear explain .its really very good helpfull.i got the same problems.i try to solve your way.but the problem is still now BIOS not shown up.do have any more idea.can you give me any advice please.