you know one take i did enjoy from Enterprise, Vulcans seeing themselves in humanity and so fear them. Both were passionate and warlike races who nuked themselves and built a better world from the ashes, but then humans didn't suppressed their emotions and moved far quicker.
Yeah, also Vulcans probably did realise that nothing can be more disastrous than the situation of moral progress of society lagging behind technological progress, so they tried to slow humanity down. That is what real world humanity would also benefit from
None of the other races in Star Trek are afraid of the human race, not even its enemies. The only ones who fully understand why they should be afraid of us are... the Vulcans. Well, and Quark.
I still love the Vulcans coming up with the reasons for the federation capital being on Earth - a combination of nobody having old animosities with humans & it making the crazy humans happy. Can't remember if beta canon.
Also, Earth is a decent middle ground climate-wise between the founding members homeworlds, so most space-faring species would be relatively comfortable on Earth.
I'd also like to point out the many times in Enterprise aliens commented on how simple English was to learn. I always thought they were setting up English being chosen as the common language. Also also, it makes sense for the HQ of your fleet to be on the same planet as your governing body
Well, it was the humans that mediated the peace between Vulcans and Andorians. Besides, Vulcan and Andoria are both well outside the Screen Actors Guild 30 mile zone. ;-)
The post-first-contact behavior of the Vulcans always fascinated (ha!) me from an international relations perspective. Like, they find a species digging themselves out of a post-nuclear hole, one not too dissimilar to the one that left one of the greatest cultural scars on the Vulcan psyche. Except here, instead of throwing themselves into logic to cool their passions, humanity is determined to learn *absolutely nothing* from it. To the Vulcan High Command and probably the Foreign Ministry, they've got a terrifying situation on their hands. If they don't play their cards right, they're liable to have, at best, another Andoria on their hands in short order. So what do the Vulcans do? Toss billions of space bucks into a crash development program that turns Earth into a semi-colonial protectorate, which lets them "guide" (read: slow down) their technological development. Humanity, pushy upstarts as ever (and not too dissimilar to humanity in Mass Effect), immediately chafed at this arrangement. As soon as humans built the Warp 5 ship and found the Andorians, they'd had found a huge gift diplomatically: a rival power they were more similar to culturally who they could use any time Vulcan tried to yank the imperial patron chain.
Since the first time seeing ENT, I have the immpression that the Marshal Plan might be an inspiration for the writers. Like the US supported german redevelopment after WW2 to influence society not to become fascist again, the Vulcans supported the war-stricked Earth to influence them not to become dangerous.
And each came together fearing the Romulans as a military threat but then found mutual cooperation actually worked pretty well. Sort of like NATO countries in Europe forming the EU. One doesn't flow to the other of course. But the idea of military defense lent naturally to other areas of mutual interest under the EU.
@@SusScrofaBob I have no doubt that that's what they were patterning the story after, but the *scale* of the Vulcan redevelopment program must have been literally astronomical, particularly for a government that had literally nothing to do with the conflict that started the whole mess. I guess it goes to show the Vulcan's truly alien commitment to utilitarianism. The needs of the many really do outweigh the needs of the few, and they are more than willing to put their latinum where their mouth is. There have got to be interesting (if fanfic-y) stories to tell during that time period. Like, how did the T'Plana-Hath Plan Authority deal with, I dunno, the North Korean refugee situation? How many people did they have to bribe to make the rump United States feel ok about all thise?
@@kolar Looks like Rick gets into that in his next video, but that was truly a bumblefuck of epic proportions by the Romulans. In trying to keep the Beta Quadrant powers separated and at war with one another, they ended up driving them into each others arms.
I read something to the effect that Vulcan purposely let the federation look like a human invention. Nothing is more dangerous than sitting on the throne, so to speak.
Honestly that sounds like Romulan or other anti-Vulcan propaganda rather then something what happened. It doesn't really fit the Vulcan culture to leave an ally to wolves that way, especially an ally who had helped them as much as humans had. That said I could see Vulcans downplaying then involvement in forming the Federation to bring the Andorians on board.
@@SampoPaalanen vulcans and romulans are the same people tho and thats 100% what the romulans would do. We all know what makes the Vulcans great is their culture of logic keeping in check their emotions. With that they are logical superhumans...but they still have that seed of realpolitik and cunning that makes the romulans dangerous, the same way humans still have the aggression deep within so would surprise me if that was true
@@chadgiga4213 Biologically yes but Culturally they're very different people, kind of like how Americans and Japanese are biologically the same people (they're both humans) but culturally they are very different. In the Vulcan culture, leaving an ally to take the heat for yourself would be seen as an act of pride (aka an emotional act) rather then that of logic. Deflecting danger onto an ally would seen as counter to Surak's teachings. Note also that Romulan culture in the "today" of Star Trek even in the 22nd century is most likely very different from the pre-sundering culture of those Vulcans who marched under the raptor banner.
Honestly, if you are going into an alliance with humans, you let the humans sit on the throne. It's far safer than letting them fester, get jealous and then decide to 'throw off the yoke of oppression' two generations in. Don't Pon'Far with humans. Humans be crazy.
There's a couple of anthologies known as the Myriad Universe. One of the stories "Tears of Eridanus". It describes a universe where the Andorians rather than the Vulcans were the main power in the region. The fandom site Memory Beta would have more details.
@@Loneguy22 I read those. It was a universe where the Vulcans never found logic and blasted themselves back to the stone age during a nuclear war and stayed at that level. I don't remember what the rest of the plot was however...
Vulcan's biggest contribution was introducing ritualized dance parties which are still conducted on Risa. If at all possible please cover the summer event.
Would like this but from the Andorian point of view had a soft spot for the andorians since enterprise and enjoyed the way their played out on the series
@@limiv5272 Wasnt a big fanboi of picard had so much potential but seemed to play it too safe especially the ending and your very right its humans and vulcans for the most part ...can you iamgine a tellerite and andorian crew drinking session so much swearing lol
@@warpz7827 Yeah the ending was very predictable, but I had fun watching most of the middle. Also I'd love some swearing, and it'd be in some made up alien language so it wouldn't get censored!
Blame CBS. While another season was never guaranteed, it was being floated around, so the writers levied the idea of the next season being dedicated to the Romulan War and were setting the ground work for it, only mid way through season 4 the series to get canceled. So in essence, they had to slap something together.
@@jhmcd2 I don't blame CBS like how everyone attacks CBS all access which is unfair just wished it was better promoted even I believe after 9/11 happened that shaped it's Xindi war arc!
@@captainrgd1565 Actually, CBS bought UPN, the show which Star Trek aired on at the time, and chose to shut it down and create the CW. Paramount stated that they were open to a fifth season, but CBS didn't want it for the CW, it didn't fit its business model something that is clear now. After that, Paramount floated the series around, but no one bought it so it was never renewed. That's what I meant by blame CBS.
@@jhmcd2 You can also blame Les Moonves, the head of CBS at the time, who was notorious in his hatred for sci-fi and Star Trek. www.trektoday.com/news/020205_04.shtml
"I'm sure it has nothing to do with the ease of applying the prosthetics." Try telling Nimoy how "easy" it was getting those ears done every day. At one point he was actually considering a suggestion to get plastic surgery that Roddenberry had made in jest.
Enterprise was a decent show, and it provided a lot of relevant background on the series. Most of the things worked really well. The more they were willing do to their own thing, or at least get creative with the races of the other series, the better the show worked. The irony is that, we know more about the Vulcans from Enterprise than from every series before hand, and it never felt retconned (most of the time). While I loved the fact that the ship felt like it could almost never keep up with the other species, which is a huge plus, I would have preferred the Enterprise design on The Motion Picture wall.
@Carl Hopf *would liked to have actually seen that demonstrated...how many Tellarite Chief Engineers did Starfleet have?...the only thing we really get was that they liked to argue and insult other species they encountered*
@@scottmantooth8785 Yeah its kinda of annoying how little we get with them. Pretty much all we know is secondhand info (characters talking about them) or beta canon. Honestly having them be so involved in the Enterprise series was one of the better decisions the show had; so that they could get some good alpha canon lore.
Well, they were hideous, unlike Vulcans, so... Then again, Ferengi. Quark, and that nasty Nagus. Yuck. Not enough Romulan Ale glasses in the Alpha Quadrant to make either look acceptable.
@@Nostripe361 *could be they focused on one character trait to the detriment of everything else...the argument aspect of their demeanor gets old very, very quickly in an environment of working with others especially on a starship as it does in real life*
Its 30°c in my room right now. 11pm at night, window open, fans blowing. I get uncomfortable above 23.5°c. I need to move out of the UK... to maybe the Arctic Circle.
@@fotsiborgaming1037 not anymore because i'm a little late but yep.. my window always ends up being shone on during the hottest moments of the day so it's a literal bake off in my room
I heard someone make the case that one of the main points of Star Trek was that interference is necessary. The series took place after WWII, and thoughts then by most were America's isolationism was a factor in WWI and WWII. These thoughts contributed to America jumping into every conflict it could in the latter half of the 20th Century.
@@bretthoffman2128 Besides technology, Vulcans seems to like Baseball, a sport that Humanity made. They have their own baseball team named "The Logicians" who are playing against Benjamin Sisko team on DS9 Other sports such as Football had made many Vulcans grown curious about it. One vulcan anthropologist misinterpretly claimed it as like a ritual game where you will to attempt to kill the quarter back, in which one human starfleet officer straighten and correct him after
@@michaelmcfarland1716 Apparently Baseball caught on with a lot of cultures. The Gorn, for instance. Not the best runners, but who needs to run when you can hit a grand slam out of the park?
Oh, gonna enjoy this series as I liked ENT when it was on TV and recently got the complete series on DVD so I can watch episodes I missed and also a chance for the wife to watch (she's seen TNG and DS9). Earth-Romulan War is gonna be of particular interest for me, though maybe a breakdown of pre-Federation Starfleet vessels?
I'd like to see the Andorian's influence on Humanity, done in this way. Also a talk on Axanar which one fits the prime universe better, Axanar or the one we were told about in Discovery. In my head cannon I'd would be a stanch supporter of Axanar as told by the prelude because it fits while Discovery's has way too many holes in it. The other species like the Tellerites and others would be good as well.
I didn't know that Vulcans had only been space faring for only 350 years before First Contact. Considering vulcan lifespan and their slow, cautious nature, that's not all that long.
Yes I do admit, I like HER breasts also, Hoshi is ok, but a little on the plain side until into the mirror, when they find the defiant, which they could've taken further
@@limiv5272 i mean i like her alot.. i'm an asexual woman though so no i don't like her for her boobs.. i just like the character.. i do have a dirty mind though so all of the scenes in wich she is made uncomfortable in those ways were hilarious to me.. especially the one where she and the captain are trapped and bound and the captain just falls and falls face first right in the boob area.. i was like INVOLUNTAIRY MOTORBOAT INCOMING ! 😂
Excellent video! Liked, and subscribed. Personally I'm quite the Trekkie, the pre-Federation era, particularly the Earth Romulan War is my favorite. Along with the Daedalus Class being my favorite starship class. Along with the Olympic Class. They're just such different starship designs, and both were perfectly capable in their own time. It's just a shame neither starship class nor as much as could have been of the pre-Federation era have really ever gotten as much screen time as they probably could have considering their importance to the historical timeline of the franchise. I have always been interested in learning more about the more primitive weapons used in the Earth Romulan War should you ever do a video covering the topic.
I really wish I got to see more early Romulan/Starfleet stuff. Enterprise ended just short of it all kicking off and I actually liked Enterprise. I even bought that horribly ugly miracle worker ship in STO just because it was the Tucker class/variant lol.
Ahhhh! lol... I love that set of ships... probably my favorite of all time. So aesthetically customizable and look like true Engineering juggernauts. Also, Enterprise was my hands-down favorite of all the ST shows. Just something about them not being able to magically repair their ship between episodes and keep carrying that damage with them as they go along. No miracle tech or abundance of space outposts to stop and get repairs at... true exploration. It got my wife and I to go back and revisit all the others shows season by season.
@@maddllamakmh1040 I really loved Enterprise too. The pre-Federation era is one of the most fascinating, important, and unfortunately sorely neglected for screen time. Considering it's importance to the franchise history just doesn't make sense to me. If only Enterprise had gotten enough seasons to get into, and through the Earth Romulan War. Would have loved to see my favorite starship class, (the Daedalus Class), in action.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 The funny part is the only two entertainment entities to ever go back and touch on the Enterprise era were Star Trek Online and Bad Robot's Star Trek: Into Darkness. When I was watching Into Darkness and saw Idris Elba's uniform and ship I was like, yup, they know what's up.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 Also, not sure if many people have noticed, but Brannon Braga was co-creator and executive producer on Enterprise, and more recently he helped Seth McFarlane produce the Orville. You can see his influence on the show, with there being no transporters and a primary reliance on shuttlecraft to get around. lol... I like to assume it is anyhow.
I haven’t watched Enterprise (I have, in fact, watched very little Star Trek in my life) but learning about the lore that it added to the franchise, it sounds like the writers were very passionate about Star Trek and wanted to do a good job of depicting Humanity’s first steps into the Galactic community.
samiamrg7 That’s why I like it better than TGN. Picard comes across as preachy and self righteous a lot of the time. Archer is a flawed person striving to learn and be better. So Enterprise feels more real and inspiring at times.
@@MandalorV7 that could be somewhat chalked up to the fact that Picard had a previous command as a Captain. You know already experienced, and somewhat set in his ways about it by the time he took command of the Enterprise. Whereas if I'm not mistaken the NX-Enterprise was Archer's first command.
It would be interesting in that next episode if you could address the territorial distances involved. It seems in enterprise the romulans were rather close by but by tng they were far away.
A lot of people used to hate how Vulcans were portrayed in “Enterprise.” As someone who grew up on TOS onward, I considered the portrayal spot on. People have often confused the moralities of Spock and Tuvok as representative of all Vulcans-the idea that no Vulcan can do any wrong. That means that they weren’t paying attention to all the many Vulcan a-holes presented throughout Trek canon, ranging from T’Pring to that Vulcan captain who wanted to beat Sisko in baseball to even a Vulcan serial killer. Vulcans have a rather ugly racist tendency to look down upon races it considers inferior such as humans-and well, most other races. I thought it was rather fascinating and fitting to see Vulcan portrayed as a quasi-imperial power bordering on fascist. A kind of Romulan-lite in which Earth was very much a puppet government under the thumb of the High Command. After all, pure cold logic in the absence of morality is very dangerous indeed. In fact, I was slightly disappointed that Administrator Vlas was revealed to be a Romulan spy, simply because that felt like a bit of a copout. But Vulcans and Bajorans are my two favorite species because they ARE both so complex. There not one size fits all. They are made up of INDIVIDUALS, some moral, some villainous, some sane, some not. And that’s how it should be.
Actually from what I understand from captain archer and the early enterprise was that the Vulcans were deliberately stalling the war program because they said the earth was not ready to venture out of our own solar system so the Vulcans have had their way installing all advancements by the human race according to what captain archer mentioned and it was captain archer who is instrumental in creating the Federation by getting everybody together in one place to start the talks in the creation of the Federation because at the end of the series they showed archer and some of the crew watching the signing of the documents starting the Federation with the few allies so far that they had at the time and they were a pivotable pivotal part of actually getting everyone together Captain archer also had no trust in the Balkans because he had always seen him as keeping secrets but they were one of the participants informing of the Federation of planets not an actual contributor to starting it but actually joining the United Federation of planets because earth had always been wary of the Vulcans because of their slowing the project of warp drive down to where a lot of people have not trusted the Romulans and they went through and did the warp five anyways correction Vulcans and the first encounter they had with the Romulans was not knowing where their board was and running into one of their minds and having it attach to the whole of the enterprise and two crewmembers had ventured outside to try and disengage it from the hall and one of the legs speared right through Accruent leg so they had to put a shielding between the crewman and the mine and releasing the boat the bulkhead plate a plate of the outer hole correction hole
Vulcans had warp flight for 350 years and barely were TOS levels of tech by the TOS. Most other races had similar situations. Humans had warp flight for less than 300 years and went from warp 0.5 to get to the moon to warp 9 TNG, DS9, and Voyager levels of tech. Also Vulcans went from being the most technologically advanced to sharing in the advancements of humanity. I think they are super intelligent, but their focus on logic limited their ability to improvise and dream of bigger things. They needed external sources of data and input in order to process new things, which is why humanity and vulcans became such an amazing combination.
I'd be interested to see how the early civilian-sector interstellar looked before starfleet was fully codeified and even afterwards. What trade was going on? Were there companies that engaged in it? Did we trade cultural nick-nacks as we moved away from money systems completely? Do any of these companies still stand? We know there are civilian industries as of DS9, as there are traders and the like. Or to put it shortly: What's life like for a non-starfleet spacefarer in the federation throughout the eras?
I think Picard has and will give us some idea. Like it was said that Picard paid Rios to shuttle him around. Money clearly still exists in some form, and Picard clearly had some. Perhaps there was some monetary compensation given by Starfleet after all, maybe only to those who retire. Or maybe not and he used the money he earned from his vineyard. I'd like them to be more specific and consistent
@@limiv5272 perhaps money is something the Federation itself largely eventually discarded because that would make sense given the Federation's overall causes, but which wasn't necessarily discarded outside the Federation on a personal level between individuals.
@@limiv5272 weren't they both largely retired from the Federation by that point? What I was getting at is perhaps the Federation itself discarded using money internally, but that civilians outside the Federation may still use it.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 They were retired from Starfleet, but were still Federation citizens. People don't normally give up their citizenship when they retire.
As a ships guy, I *would have* preferred some time with human ships having the ring-ship configuration (a la that earlier Enterprise in canon) during some show - probably ST: Enterprise. That similarity to Vulcan tech would've given another layer of camaraderie. And then how interesting for humans to come up with that twin nacelles design, an innovation improving on warp systems again in shorter time than imaginable to Vulcans.
AndrewKendall I don't think it ever was depicted onscreen, but I recall reading that many earlier Earth starship designs were either based upon, or borrowed technologies from Vulcan starship designs. They would have seemed very similar at that point.
I would love to see a general history of the AlphaQ. pre-human power, the events that setup the stage for how things were when humans became a space civilization.
Very well done, I do think the introduction of the Romulan race from the mind of Gene Roddenberry as a great thing. It was one of the reason why it drew people to it. I often wondered why the eight main characters that are in TOS are called the main crew? When I watch the TOS I see many time the MAIN CREW are not in the episode and their positions are played by actors I did not know. So I wonder how main episodes each actor was in and who has the lest and most, YES Kirk and Spock are the most, Just wondering.
I never watched TOS, but that makes sense. In space, Earth days don't mean much. You could encounter aliens at any time, or visit worlds whose local time or day duration is very different than ours. Therefore you'd need people to do all the important work around the clock, meaning 3-4 helm officers, navigators, science officers, leading engineers etc. The way series usually show things you'd think all the main characters are at their posts on the bridge all day every day
@@limiv5272 I understand the whole thing of shifts Night, day, weekends time off, injury. But keep in mind this is a show that we see one point in the whole of the time when the main crew is why we watch the show. Did we ever see a different Science officer THEN Spock?, when he is in the show NO. Now we have seen a crewman in his position when he is on the planet. We see Scotty in the Captain's chair, when Kirk is on the planet But the characters are still in the whole of the show. Of course if the seen does not require the character, they would not be there. But when the scene is on the bridge WE should see the main crew.
I always suspected the Vulcans saw something humanity that would allow us to become great ally's and also to handle the Romulans. Part of the reason they were a little hands off is they wanted humanity to be humanity.
Great vid. I like a lot of what I saw in the Enterprise series. Thanks for including in in your version of "cannon," and hopefully you wont include the "Disco/Kelvin" timeline.
I can't wait for the day when prosthetics tech is advanced enough to where we can get vulcans, tellarites, and andorians in equal measure for Starfleet crews. It would be great to see all the founding members in equal number aboard a ship.
You should do a video about the Caitian and Kzinti... I mean the Feresean. Yes, Fereseans. Totally not talking about the Kzinti. Or their pink space suits. Then again, the Klingons loved their pink and purple armor during that time too. Yup. And Pink Tribbles. There was a lot of pink during that time of space. travel.
The Romulan version of social distancing focused on antagonising the Andorians to prevent the Vulcans from polluting Romulan culture with Vulcan philosophy.
I'd like an episode about the geography of the Trek version of the Milky Way - where are all the planets relative to eachother, how far are they apart, where are the borders etc.
Federation news alert, recently uncovered documents reveal: Starfleet ships have Vulcans on board becaauuuuse...Cute eye candy, every Starfleet captain wanted his own T'Pol!
Even as an 8 year old running home after school to watch Star Trek at 4 pm, I never understood WHY the Vulcans were older and more advanced than humans, but humans developed space technology and exploration so much more quickly...
I'm much more fond of the alternate timeline where Ambassador Shran and Admiral Archer high five each other in between campaigns of expanding the Terran-Andorian Empire and berating those pointy-eared hobgoblins.
Correction on the Warp 7 engine; the Coalition of Planets and the Romulans were working towards the Warp 7 engine in 2155 (Star Trek Enterprise: The Good That Men Do (2007). Therefore the Vulcans didn’t have a Warp 7 engine when they had first contact with humans and even when the NX-01 was launched.
Remember the first contact with vulcans in Star Trek? The Romulans all wore helmets that covered the ears because it was too much effort to have a whole caste of make up artists applying pointy ears.
Topic: what happened to the Vulcan ships seen in this video? their designs i mean, did they just give up on their ship types at some point and take up Earth designs?
After Untied Earth kicked the Romulan Star Empires butt at the Battle of Cheron, the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites realised that United Earth domination of their region of space was inevitable so acquiesced to the more expansive Coalition of Planets idea that was the United Federation of Planets as a means of maintaining greater control and influence less the Humans realise the change in status quo and cut them out.
I really do like Star Trek Enterprise and it's a favorite of mine. However, I was a little disappointed in the direction the show went. I felt the writers had the crew of the NX-01 run into certain aliens too early. I can see them socializing with the Vulcans, because they are closer to humans and they assisted humans with space travel development. The crew of the NX-01 ran into the Klingons, Ferengi and Andorians way too early in the series. I expected Star Trek Enterprise to be focused mainly on exploration of unknown planets, ancient alien ships, space phenomena, ancient alien technology and even time travel at least for the first 3 seasons of STE. Instead, in the first season they are introduced to the cold war and Klingons. The second season they encounter the Ferengi and Andorians. These events led the show into becoming an equivalent to Star Trek Voyager and Star Trek DS9. Star Trek Enterprise quickly left exploration of the unknown which would have kept the show interesting. Instead, it became 24TH Century space war Star Trek, which made the show a much more familiar type of show when you compare it to the mood of Star Trek Voyager and Star Trek DS9.
they also encountered two romulan ships i believe pretty early on too.. they almost get blown to all heck while trying to figure out wtf they are saying though wich turns out to just be a glorified version of: GET OFF MY LAWN OR I'LL SHOOT YOU.. just a bit more romulan.. i also remember that T'pol was very confused about them
Jonathon Earl don't forget that the NX-Enterprise Crew also ended up dealing with Borg left over from their later time travel excursion who had been inactive frozen in the Artic. I read that there's been some speculation that the message these Borg attempted to transmit to their counterparts in the Delta Quadrant of the time may have been partially responsible for the Borg's later interest in assimilating the Federation even prior to the TNG Enterprise Crew's initial encounter with them due to Q's meddling.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 Oh, believe me I haven't forgotten about Archer's crew dealing with the Borg. They handled the Borg quite well for a pre-Federation crew.
@@jonathonearl482 just thought I'd mention it as another example of an extraterrestrial alien species the NX-Enterprise Crew encountered very early if only briefly.
Skywise Rick does have another video on phasers, and why the Federation chose them over disruptors, and the various other options. It includes a fair deal on handphasers, and their technological evolution also.
I'd like to know more about the human worlds next door i. e. Moon, Mars or Alpha Centauri. But them I'm afraid that the alpha canon has not much to say about it, isn't it?
you know one take i did enjoy from Enterprise, Vulcans seeing themselves in humanity and so fear them. Both were passionate and warlike races who nuked themselves and built a better world from the ashes, but then humans didn't suppressed their emotions and moved far quicker.
Yeah, also Vulcans probably did realise that nothing can be more disastrous than the situation of moral progress of society lagging behind technological progress, so they tried to slow humanity down. That is what real world humanity would also benefit from
None of the other races in Star Trek are afraid of the human race, not even its enemies. The only ones who fully understand why they should be afraid of us are... the Vulcans. Well, and Quark.
@@daverapp Kinda the Q continuum too but that was a bit more about future potential
Prime Directive. Might be a good idea now, but would it impede the US from helping other nations in disasters-even after they dissed us?
@@virginiaconnor8350 Helping? Like in bringing Freedom and Democracy?
I still love the Vulcans coming up with the reasons for the federation capital being on Earth - a combination of nobody having old animosities with humans & it making the crazy humans happy. Can't remember if beta canon.
Semi-canon at least, that's basically the line used for NX-01 Enterprise for commanding the mixed fleet in that one series.
Also, Earth is a decent middle ground climate-wise between the founding members homeworlds, so most space-faring species would be relatively comfortable on Earth.
That and if someone wanted to blow up the capital they would have to clean up the mess
I'd also like to point out the many times in Enterprise aliens commented on how simple English was to learn. I always thought they were setting up English being chosen as the common language. Also also, it makes sense for the HQ of your fleet to be on the same planet as your governing body
Well, it was the humans that mediated the peace between Vulcans and Andorians.
Besides, Vulcan and Andoria are both well outside the Screen Actors Guild 30 mile zone. ;-)
The post-first-contact behavior of the Vulcans always fascinated (ha!) me from an international relations perspective. Like, they find a species digging themselves out of a post-nuclear hole, one not too dissimilar to the one that left one of the greatest cultural scars on the Vulcan psyche. Except here, instead of throwing themselves into logic to cool their passions, humanity is determined to learn *absolutely nothing* from it.
To the Vulcan High Command and probably the Foreign Ministry, they've got a terrifying situation on their hands. If they don't play their cards right, they're liable to have, at best, another Andoria on their hands in short order. So what do the Vulcans do? Toss billions of space bucks into a crash development program that turns Earth into a semi-colonial protectorate, which lets them "guide" (read: slow down) their technological development.
Humanity, pushy upstarts as ever (and not too dissimilar to humanity in Mass Effect), immediately chafed at this arrangement. As soon as humans built the Warp 5 ship and found the Andorians, they'd had found a huge gift diplomatically: a rival power they were more similar to culturally who they could use any time Vulcan tried to yank the imperial patron chain.
Since the first time seeing ENT, I have the immpression that the Marshal Plan might be an inspiration for the writers. Like the US supported german redevelopment after WW2 to influence society not to become fascist again, the Vulcans supported the war-stricked Earth to influence them not to become dangerous.
And each came together fearing the Romulans as a military threat but then found mutual cooperation actually worked pretty well. Sort of like NATO countries in Europe forming the EU. One doesn't flow to the other of course. But the idea of military defense lent naturally to other areas of mutual interest under the EU.
@@SusScrofaBob I have no doubt that that's what they were patterning the story after, but the *scale* of the Vulcan redevelopment program must have been literally astronomical, particularly for a government that had literally nothing to do with the conflict that started the whole mess. I guess it goes to show the Vulcan's truly alien commitment to utilitarianism. The needs of the many really do outweigh the needs of the few, and they are more than willing to put their latinum where their mouth is.
There have got to be interesting (if fanfic-y) stories to tell during that time period. Like, how did the T'Plana-Hath Plan Authority deal with, I dunno, the North Korean refugee situation? How many people did they have to bribe to make the rump United States feel ok about all thise?
@@kolar Looks like Rick gets into that in his next video, but that was truly a bumblefuck of epic proportions by the Romulans. In trying to keep the Beta Quadrant powers separated and at war with one another, they ended up driving them into each others arms.
I read something to the effect that Vulcan purposely let the federation look like a human invention. Nothing is more dangerous than sitting on the throne, so to speak.
Honestly that sounds like Romulan or other anti-Vulcan propaganda rather then something what happened. It doesn't really fit the Vulcan culture to leave an ally to wolves that way, especially an ally who had helped them as much as humans had. That said I could see Vulcans downplaying then involvement in forming the Federation to bring the Andorians on board.
@@SampoPaalanen vulcans and romulans are the same people tho and thats 100% what the romulans would do. We all know what makes the Vulcans great is their culture of logic keeping in check their emotions. With that they are logical superhumans...but they still have that seed of realpolitik and cunning that makes the romulans dangerous, the same way humans still have the aggression deep within so would surprise me if that was true
@@chadgiga4213 Biologically yes but Culturally they're very different people, kind of like how Americans and Japanese are biologically the same people (they're both humans) but culturally they are very different.
In the Vulcan culture, leaving an ally to take the heat for yourself would be seen as an act of pride (aka an emotional act) rather then that of logic. Deflecting danger onto an ally would seen as counter to Surak's teachings.
Note also that Romulan culture in the "today" of Star Trek even in the 22nd century is most likely very different from the pre-sundering culture of those Vulcans who marched under the raptor banner.
Honestly, if you are going into an alliance with humans, you let the humans sit on the throne. It's far safer than letting them fester, get jealous and then decide to 'throw off the yoke of oppression' two generations in. Don't Pon'Far with humans. Humans be crazy.
Well Humanity brought all those races together so it is their idea.
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-Romulans, 400 AD
I would love to see an alternate timeline were the Andorians are our first contact.
*Blue people with antennae step off of spaceship*
"They're really from another world." - Cochrane
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There's a couple of anthologies known as the Myriad Universe. One of the stories "Tears of Eridanus". It describes a universe where the Andorians rather than the Vulcans were the main power in the region. The fandom site Memory Beta would have more details.
Or the Orions. Human men never bother exploring any further....
@@Loneguy22 I read those. It was a universe where the Vulcans never found logic and blasted themselves back to the stone age during a nuclear war and stayed at that level. I don't remember what the rest of the plot was however...
Vulcan's biggest contribution was introducing ritualized dance parties which are still conducted on Risa. If at all possible please cover the summer event.
Rick: mentions Vulcans or Romulans
Me: all ears
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I'm all ears!
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HA HA ,simple but very witty Glenn,i salute you.
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Would like this but from the Andorian point of view had a soft spot for the andorians since enterprise and enjoyed the way their played out on the series
I really loved the andorian episodes...
It would have been interesting to see an andorian romulan conflict in some way...
@@cmbaz1140 Think its the fact that the andorians well the actor just got how the humans acted etc and was like a love hate bromance everytime lol
I really wish Picard had some Andorians. There is often an astounding lack of aliens in a civilization made up of nearly 200 different species.
@@limiv5272 Wasnt a big fanboi of picard had so much potential but seemed to play it too safe especially the ending and your very right its humans and vulcans for the most part ...can you iamgine a tellerite and andorian crew drinking session so much swearing lol
@@warpz7827 Yeah the ending was very predictable, but I had fun watching most of the middle. Also I'd love some swearing, and it'd be in some made up alien language so it wouldn't get censored!
I'm still pissed, that we could've had the Romulan war instead of that stupid finale!
Blame CBS. While another season was never guaranteed, it was being floated around, so the writers levied the idea of the next season being dedicated to the Romulan War and were setting the ground work for it, only mid way through season 4 the series to get canceled. So in essence, they had to slap something together.
@@jhmcd2 I don't blame CBS like how everyone attacks CBS all access which is unfair just wished it was better promoted even I believe after 9/11 happened that shaped it's Xindi war arc!
@@captainrgd1565 Actually, CBS bought UPN, the show which Star Trek aired on at the time, and chose to shut it down and create the CW. Paramount stated that they were open to a fifth season, but CBS didn't want it for the CW, it didn't fit its business model something that is clear now. After that, Paramount floated the series around, but no one bought it so it was never renewed. That's what I meant by blame CBS.
@@jhmcd2 You can also blame Les Moonves, the head of CBS at the time, who was notorious in his hatred for sci-fi and Star Trek.
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"I'm sure it has nothing to do with the ease of applying the prosthetics." Try telling Nimoy how "easy" it was getting those ears done every day. At one point he was actually considering a suggestion to get plastic surgery that Roddenberry had made in jest.
That's a love song.
Enterprise was a decent show, and it provided a lot of relevant background on the series. Most of the things worked really well. The more they were willing do to their own thing, or at least get creative with the races of the other series, the better the show worked. The irony is that, we know more about the Vulcans from Enterprise than from every series before hand, and it never felt retconned (most of the time). While I loved the fact that the ship felt like it could almost never keep up with the other species, which is a huge plus, I would have preferred the Enterprise design on The Motion Picture wall.
I loved Enterprise too, such a waste that it ended early.
The fourth founding member; Tellar, lacks a lot of lore.
@Carl Hopf *would liked to have actually seen that demonstrated...how many Tellarite Chief Engineers did Starfleet have?...the only thing we really get was that they liked to argue and insult other species they encountered*
@@scottmantooth8785 Yeah its kinda of annoying how little we get with them. Pretty much all we know is secondhand info (characters talking about them) or beta canon. Honestly having them be so involved in the Enterprise series was one of the better decisions the show had; so that they could get some good alpha canon lore.
Well, they were hideous, unlike Vulcans, so... Then again, Ferengi. Quark, and that nasty Nagus. Yuck. Not enough Romulan Ale glasses in the Alpha Quadrant to make either look acceptable.
Yeah I could not stand the little race of Hamburglars. Aesthetics and attitude I think. Not in the shows much, but still disliked them.
@@Nostripe361 *could be they focused on one character trait to the detriment of everything else...the argument aspect of their demeanor gets old very, very quickly in an environment of working with others especially on a starship as it does in real life*
It's about as hot as Vulcan in the UK right now, but at least I can melt with Rick. Thanks dude!
It’s hot in the Netherlands too
Its 30°c in my room right now. 11pm at night, window open, fans blowing. I get uncomfortable above 23.5°c. I need to move out of the UK... to maybe the Arctic Circle.
@@fotsiborgaming1037 not anymore because i'm a little late but yep.. my window always ends up being shone on during the hottest moments of the day so it's a literal bake off in my room
I'm so early, First Contact hasn't happened yet.
Are you sure?
Trump might be a Furon...
You're so early, T'Pol's granny hasn't crashed her ship yet.
That's what your dad said!
Little less than 43 years now!
Yes but the Eugenics Wars and deep space sleeper ships are old hat, almost 30 years ago.
This should be pointed out how much Vulcans needed us? Every show having a Vulcan, Vulcans are just as much explores as humans.
I love binging your personnel files
I'd like to see more detail about the life of Zefram Cochrane especially his early adulthood and childhood.
Lilly Godzilly I forget the name, but at least one episode in TOS does give us a glimpse into a bit of his later life at least.
I like how just as I've started to Rewatch Enterprise, Rick does a early Star trek lore video lol
4:01, T’pol is my favorite Sciece officer
I heard someone make the case that one of the main points of Star Trek was that interference is necessary. The series took place after WWII, and thoughts then by most were America's isolationism was a factor in WWI and WWII. These thoughts contributed to America jumping into every conflict it could in the latter half of the 20th Century.
Absolutely love that last comment about prosthetics 😊
I'd like a video on what Earth/Humans added to the mix - what technology etc did humans invent that Vulcans used etc etc.
Universal Translator?Transporter?
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Besides technology, Vulcans seems to like Baseball, a sport that Humanity made. They have their own baseball team named
"The Logicians" who are playing against Benjamin Sisko team on DS9
Other sports such as Football had made many Vulcans grown curious about it. One vulcan anthropologist misinterpretly claimed it as like a ritual game where you will to attempt to kill the quarter back, in which one human starfleet officer straighten and correct him after
@@cholodelrosari0543 and if s vulcan thought that about the sacking of the qb, imagine a klingon team 😏
@@michaelmcfarland1716 Apparently Baseball caught on with a lot of cultures. The Gorn, for instance. Not the best runners, but who needs to run when you can hit a grand slam out of the park?
Oh, gonna enjoy this series as I liked ENT when it was on TV and recently got the complete series on DVD so I can watch episodes I missed and also a chance for the wife to watch (she's seen TNG and DS9). Earth-Romulan War is gonna be of particular interest for me, though maybe a breakdown of pre-Federation Starfleet vessels?
CI: tries to film background shots in STO
The other players in the background: I AM SPEEED
I'd like to see the Andorian's influence on Humanity, done in this way. Also a talk on Axanar which one fits the prime universe better, Axanar or the one we were told about in Discovery. In my head cannon I'd would be a stanch supporter of Axanar as told by the prelude because it fits while Discovery's has way too many holes in it. The other species like the Tellerites and others would be good as well.
I didn't know that Vulcans had only been space faring for only 350 years before First Contact. Considering vulcan lifespan and their slow, cautious nature, that's not all that long.
I keep thinking the same to a human 40 years is more than 1/3 of your life to a vulcan 100 years under a 1/3
Star Trek wobbles a lot with regards to canon. And numbers, years especially, are almost never consistent for long.
It has to be way longer than 350 years the sundering happened in the 4th century
My favorite Vulcan is T"Pol, Jolene Blalock, I'm not sure of the spelling on her last name but you get the idea
I liked her too, though I preferred her the way she was before the writers decided to make her more human
@@limiv5272 I'd prefer HER any way I can get HER if at all possible
@@bretthoffman2128 Please tell me you don't like her just because of her boobs. I was really hoping for a deeper reason
Yes I do admit, I like HER breasts also, Hoshi is ok, but a little on the plain side until into the mirror, when they find the defiant, which they could've taken further
@@limiv5272 i mean i like her alot.. i'm an asexual woman though so no i don't like her for her boobs.. i just like the character.. i do have a dirty mind though so all of the scenes in wich she is made uncomfortable in those ways were hilarious to me.. especially the one where she and the captain are trapped and bound and the captain just falls and falls face first right in the boob area.. i was like INVOLUNTAIRY MOTORBOAT INCOMING ! 😂
3:35 and I'm picturing the 1951 movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" in my mind.
Excellent video! Liked, and subscribed. Personally I'm quite the Trekkie, the pre-Federation era, particularly the Earth Romulan War is my favorite. Along with the Daedalus Class being my favorite starship class. Along with the Olympic Class. They're just such different starship designs, and both were perfectly capable in their own time. It's just a shame neither starship class nor as much as could have been of the pre-Federation era have really ever gotten as much screen time as they probably could have considering their importance to the historical timeline of the franchise. I have always been interested in learning more about the more primitive weapons used in the Earth Romulan War should you ever do a video covering the topic.
Excellent video, thanks. I'm fascinated by the evolution of the relationship between humans and Vulcans...
T'pol hotness is the best of Vulcan contributions to humanity!
I really wish I got to see more early Romulan/Starfleet stuff. Enterprise ended just short of it all kicking off and I actually liked Enterprise. I even bought that horribly ugly miracle worker ship in STO just because it was the Tucker class/variant lol.
Ahhhh! lol... I love that set of ships... probably my favorite of all time. So aesthetically customizable and look like true Engineering juggernauts. Also, Enterprise was my hands-down favorite of all the ST shows. Just something about them not being able to magically repair their ship between episodes and keep carrying that damage with them as they go along. No miracle tech or abundance of space outposts to stop and get repairs at... true exploration. It got my wife and I to go back and revisit all the others shows season by season.
@@maddllamakmh1040 Reed building cannons to not go back to spacedock. Ship looking beat up for like 1/4 of the show. It deserves a lot more credit.
@@maddllamakmh1040 I really loved Enterprise too. The pre-Federation era is one of the most fascinating, important, and unfortunately sorely neglected for screen time. Considering it's importance to the franchise history just doesn't make sense to me. If only Enterprise had gotten enough seasons to get into, and through the Earth Romulan War. Would have loved to see my favorite starship class, (the Daedalus Class), in action.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 The funny part is the only two entertainment entities to ever go back and touch on the Enterprise era were Star Trek Online and Bad Robot's Star Trek: Into Darkness. When I was watching Into Darkness and saw Idris Elba's uniform and ship I was like, yup, they know what's up.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 Also, not sure if many people have noticed, but Brannon Braga was co-creator and executive producer on Enterprise, and more recently he helped Seth McFarlane produce the Orville. You can see his influence on the show, with there being no transporters and a primary reliance on shuttlecraft to get around. lol... I like to assume it is anyhow.
I haven’t watched Enterprise (I have, in fact, watched very little Star Trek in my life) but learning about the lore that it added to the franchise, it sounds like the writers were very passionate about Star Trek and wanted to do a good job of depicting Humanity’s first steps into the Galactic community.
samiamrg7 That’s why I like it better than TGN. Picard comes across as preachy and self righteous a lot of the time. Archer is a flawed person striving to learn and be better. So Enterprise feels more real and inspiring at times.
@@MandalorV7 that could be somewhat chalked up to the fact that Picard had a previous command as a Captain. You know already experienced, and somewhat set in his ways about it by the time he took command of the Enterprise. Whereas if I'm not mistaken the NX-Enterprise was Archer's first command.
I love this era and to know more can’t wait
It would be interesting in that next episode if you could address the territorial distances involved. It seems in enterprise the romulans were rather close by but by tng they were far away.
A lot of people used to hate how Vulcans were portrayed in “Enterprise.” As someone who grew up on TOS onward, I considered the portrayal spot on. People have often confused the moralities of Spock and Tuvok as representative of all Vulcans-the idea that no Vulcan can do any wrong. That means that they weren’t paying attention to all the many Vulcan a-holes presented throughout Trek canon, ranging from T’Pring to that Vulcan captain who wanted to beat Sisko in baseball to even a Vulcan serial killer. Vulcans have a rather ugly racist tendency to look down upon races it considers inferior such as humans-and well, most other races. I thought it was rather fascinating and fitting to see Vulcan portrayed as a quasi-imperial power bordering on fascist. A kind of Romulan-lite in which Earth was very much a puppet government under the thumb of the High Command. After all, pure cold logic in the absence of morality is very dangerous indeed. In fact, I was slightly disappointed that Administrator Vlas was revealed to be a Romulan spy, simply because that felt like a bit of a copout. But Vulcans and Bajorans are my two favorite species because they ARE both so complex. There not one size fits all. They are made up of INDIVIDUALS, some moral, some villainous, some sane, some not. And that’s how it should be.
That view of Utopia Planitia was gorgeous
I like your new series topic Rick. I'm looking forward to more instalments.
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"Shut it down! Shut it down!"
"It's...It's...It's not shutting down!"
Actually from what I understand from captain archer and the early enterprise was that the Vulcans were deliberately stalling the war program because they said the earth was not ready to venture out of our own solar system so the Vulcans have had their way installing all advancements by the human race according to what captain archer mentioned and it was captain archer who is instrumental in creating the Federation by getting everybody together in one place to start the talks in the creation of the Federation because at the end of the series they showed archer and some of the crew watching the signing of the documents starting the Federation with the few allies so far that they had at the time and they were a pivotable pivotal part of actually getting everyone together Captain archer also had no trust in the Balkans because he had always seen him as keeping secrets but they were one of the participants informing of the Federation of planets not an actual contributor to starting it but actually joining the United Federation of planets because earth had always been wary of the Vulcans because of their slowing the project of warp drive down to where a lot of people have not trusted the Romulans and they went through and did the warp five anyways correction Vulcans and the first encounter they had with the Romulans was not knowing where their board was and running into one of their minds and having it attach to the whole of the enterprise and two crewmembers had ventured outside to try and disengage it from the hall and one of the legs speared right through Accruent leg so they had to put a shielding between the crewman and the mine and releasing the boat the bulkhead plate a plate of the outer hole correction hole
What prosthetics had you in mind? T’Pol’s on the chest? Or Spock’s on the ears?
I have heard a rumor that T'Pol had the ears as well. May have to try looking up some time, to see if true.
I'd like too examine the prosthetics just to settle the issue once and for all
Another great thing about non-interfearence, it made having the Andorians and the Vulcans in the same polity actually possible.
This video is satisfactory.
Another fun video, thanks!
How about something on Starfleet Academy? Whatever history, structure, curriculum, etc. can be dug up?
Great idea for a video. And great video.
Vulcans had warp flight for 350 years and barely were TOS levels of tech by the TOS. Most other races had similar situations. Humans had warp flight for less than 300 years and went from warp 0.5 to get to the moon to warp 9 TNG, DS9, and Voyager levels of tech. Also Vulcans went from being the most technologically advanced to sharing in the advancements of humanity. I think they are super intelligent, but their focus on logic limited their ability to improvise and dream of bigger things. They needed external sources of data and input in order to process new things, which is why humanity and vulcans became such an amazing combination.
I'd be interested to see how the early civilian-sector interstellar looked before starfleet was fully codeified and even afterwards. What trade was going on? Were there companies that engaged in it? Did we trade cultural nick-nacks as we moved away from money systems completely? Do any of these companies still stand? We know there are civilian industries as of DS9, as there are traders and the like.
Or to put it shortly: What's life like for a non-starfleet spacefarer in the federation throughout the eras?
I think Picard has and will give us some idea. Like it was said that Picard paid Rios to shuttle him around. Money clearly still exists in some form, and Picard clearly had some. Perhaps there was some monetary compensation given by Starfleet after all, maybe only to those who retire. Or maybe not and he used the money he earned from his vineyard. I'd like them to be more specific and consistent
@@limiv5272 perhaps money is something the Federation itself largely eventually discarded because that would make sense given the Federation's overall causes, but which wasn't necessarily discarded outside the Federation on a personal level between individuals.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 But Picard and Rios are both from the Federation, so I'm not sure that explains it
@@limiv5272 weren't they both largely retired from the Federation by that point? What I was getting at is perhaps the Federation itself discarded using money internally, but that civilians outside the Federation may still use it.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 They were retired from Starfleet, but were still Federation citizens. People don't normally give up their citizenship when they retire.
Fantastic video!
As a ships guy, I *would have* preferred some time with human ships having the ring-ship configuration (a la that earlier Enterprise in canon) during some show - probably ST: Enterprise. That similarity to Vulcan tech would've given another layer of camaraderie. And then how interesting for humans to come up with that twin nacelles design, an innovation improving on warp systems again in shorter time than imaginable to Vulcans.
AndrewKendall I don't think it ever was depicted onscreen, but I recall reading that many earlier Earth starship designs were either based upon, or borrowed technologies from Vulcan starship designs. They would have seemed very similar at that point.
I would love to see a general history of the AlphaQ. pre-human power, the events that setup the stage for how things were when humans became a space civilization.
Fascinating information.
Isn't it?
Very well done, I do think the introduction of the Romulan race from the mind of Gene Roddenberry as a great thing. It was one of the reason why it drew people to it. I often wondered why the eight main characters that are in TOS are called the main crew? When I watch the TOS I see many time the MAIN CREW are not in the episode and their positions are played by actors I did not know. So I wonder how main episodes each actor was in and who has the lest and most, YES Kirk and Spock are the most, Just wondering.
I never watched TOS, but that makes sense. In space, Earth days don't mean much. You could encounter aliens at any time, or visit worlds whose local time or day duration is very different than ours. Therefore you'd need people to do all the important work around the clock, meaning 3-4 helm officers, navigators, science officers, leading engineers etc. The way series usually show things you'd think all the main characters are at their posts on the bridge all day every day
@@limiv5272 I understand the whole thing of shifts Night, day, weekends time off, injury. But keep in mind this is a show that we see one point in the whole of the time when the main crew is why we watch the show. Did we ever see a different Science officer THEN Spock?, when he is in the show NO. Now we have seen a crewman in his position when he is on the planet. We see Scotty in the Captain's chair, when Kirk is on the planet But the characters are still in the whole of the show. Of course if the seen does not require the character, they would not be there. But when the scene is on the bridge WE should see the main crew.
@@thomashill6347 I see your point. I still would've liked to occasionally meet more crew members and actually see a few get more developed
@@limiv5272 That would be nice BUT it is not going to happen because of Money and the Main stars don't like to share
This was a very interesting video! Thank you putting this together. Very enjoyable! 😀
I always suspected the Vulcans saw something humanity that would allow us to become great ally's and also to handle the Romulans. Part of the reason they were a little hands off is they wanted humanity to be humanity.
I love when "UFP" is used shorthand like in some DS9 episodes.
I love your videos so much we are blessed to have you on this earth
Talk about the Man-Kzin Wars and how they probably went in Star Trek.
Talking about the united earth space probe agency would be kind of cool :D or maybe tractor beam tech vs cables.
Peace and long life. Thanks Rick.
Love these videos
I watch all your videos, but I must say this one was very interesting
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Great vid. I like a lot of what I saw in the Enterprise series. Thanks for including in in your version of "cannon," and hopefully you wont include the "Disco/Kelvin" timeline.
Discovery is in the prime timeline, not the Kelvin timeline.
Vulcans are the coolest!
amazing video!thank you for sharing with us ❤
I can't wait for the day when prosthetics tech is advanced enough to where we can get vulcans, tellarites, and andorians in equal measure for Starfleet crews. It would be great to see all the founding members in equal number aboard a ship.
You should do a video about the Caitian and Kzinti... I mean the Feresean. Yes, Fereseans. Totally not talking about the Kzinti. Or their pink space suits. Then again, the Klingons loved their pink and purple armor during that time too. Yup. And Pink Tribbles. There was a lot of pink during that time of space. travel.
One of the animators was colorblind and pink registered as gray to him.
@@Janoha17 It was the Executive Producer actually, but yeah, I love that piece of trivia.
It would be good to learn more about the other species at the table when Archer speaks.
The Romulan version of social distancing focused on antagonising the Andorians to prevent the Vulcans from polluting Romulan culture with Vulcan philosophy.
I'd like an episode about the geography of the Trek version of the Milky Way - where are all the planets relative to eachother, how far are they apart, where are the borders etc.
Federation news alert, recently uncovered documents reveal: Starfleet ships have Vulcans on board becaauuuuse...Cute eye candy, every Starfleet captain wanted his own T'Pol!
Even as an 8 year old running home after school to watch Star Trek at 4 pm, I never understood WHY the Vulcans were older and more advanced than humans, but humans developed space technology and exploration so much more quickly...
We need Star Trek Vulcan
I'm much more fond of the alternate timeline where Ambassador Shran and Admiral Archer high five each other in between campaigns of expanding the Terran-Andorian Empire and berating those pointy-eared hobgoblins.
Correction on the Warp 7 engine; the Coalition of Planets and the Romulans were working towards the Warp 7 engine in 2155 (Star Trek Enterprise: The Good That Men Do (2007). Therefore the Vulcans didn’t have a Warp 7 engine when they had first contact with humans and even when the NX-01 was launched.
Remember the first contact with vulcans in Star Trek? The Romulans all wore helmets that covered the ears because it was too much effort to have a whole caste of make up artists applying pointy ears.
The Vulcan are cool
We seen you do the Green Lantern's and Sinestro Corps lanterns but what about the other lanterns are you planning to do those or not
Can you talk about T'pol?I love this character.
Topic: what happened to the Vulcan ships seen in this video? their designs i mean, did they just give up on their ship types at some point and take up Earth designs?
I felt it would have been cooler if the Andorians were the ones that made first contact with humanity.
Speaking of the Romulans, I'd like to hear your observations about the Earth-Romulan War.
3:31 Within the narrative, it suddenly makes aliens being wary of humans a bloody lot more sense.
Thank you that was very interesting
I would like to know what happens to the xindi after the earth/xindi war and the delphech expanse
After Untied Earth kicked the Romulan Star Empires butt at the Battle of Cheron, the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites realised that United Earth domination of their region of space was inevitable so acquiesced to the more expansive Coalition of Planets idea that was the United Federation of Planets as a means of maintaining greater control and influence less the Humans realise the change in status quo and cut them out.
I did love Enterprise, even though it was kind of a mess sometimes. It's a tragedy we didnt get to see more of the coalition and early federation.
I really do like Star Trek Enterprise and it's a favorite of mine. However, I was a little disappointed in the direction the show went. I felt the writers had the crew of the NX-01 run into certain aliens too early. I can see them socializing with the Vulcans, because they are closer to humans and they assisted humans with space travel development. The crew of the NX-01 ran into the Klingons, Ferengi and Andorians way too early in the series. I expected Star Trek Enterprise to be focused mainly on exploration of unknown planets, ancient alien ships, space phenomena, ancient alien technology and even time travel at least for the first 3 seasons of STE. Instead, in the first season they are introduced to the cold war and Klingons. The second season they encounter the Ferengi and Andorians. These events led the show into becoming an equivalent to Star Trek Voyager and Star Trek DS9.
Star Trek Enterprise quickly left exploration of the unknown which would have kept the show interesting. Instead, it became 24TH Century space war Star Trek, which made the show a much more familiar type of show when you compare it to the mood of Star Trek Voyager and Star Trek DS9.
they also encountered two romulan ships i believe pretty early on too.. they almost get blown to all heck while trying to figure out wtf they are saying though wich turns out to just be a glorified version of: GET OFF MY LAWN OR I'LL SHOOT YOU.. just a bit more romulan.. i also remember that T'pol was very confused about them
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Jonathon Earl don't forget that the NX-Enterprise Crew also ended up dealing with Borg left over from their later time travel excursion who had been inactive frozen in the Artic. I read that there's been some speculation that the message these Borg attempted to transmit to their counterparts in the Delta Quadrant of the time may have been partially responsible for the Borg's later interest in assimilating the Federation even prior to the TNG Enterprise Crew's initial encounter with them due to Q's meddling.
@@bmkretrogaming7634 Oh, believe me I haven't forgotten about Archer's crew dealing with the Borg. They handled the Borg quite well for a pre-Federation crew.
@@jonathonearl482 just thought I'd mention it as another example of an extraterrestrial alien species the NX-Enterprise Crew encountered very early if only briefly.
Zefram Cochrane was in 'Babe'......I'm certain i saw him in it
I love your videos
Great Video! One question though, what did you say at the end? Was it Vulcan for Live Long and Prosper?
Peace and long life
"Hello, I am Thomas of..."
Fun video - how about details on the handphaser?
Skywise Rick does have another video on phasers, and why the Federation chose them over disruptors, and the various other options. It includes a fair deal on handphasers, and their technological evolution also.
I'd like to know more about the human worlds next door i. e. Moon, Mars or Alpha Centauri. But them I'm afraid that the alpha canon has not much to say about it, isn't it?
Vulcan are my favorite aliens next to Klingons I loves their belief in logic and their non emotional beliefs
How about The Klingon impact they were one of the first missions for Starfleet and also what about Section 31's influence.
What sources cover Earth in the early years after the warp drive was invented?
If Vulcans weren't so catious and slow in space travel, they would miss Earth.
I was wondering what the rest of the earth is like in the 23rd century and beyond