Who Did Steph Curry JUST PASS on the GOAT List?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
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Steph Curry winning Finals MVP makes him undeniably one of the greatest players of all time. The question is, where does Steph land on the top-players-ever list? This is a look at where Steph ranks and who he just moved passed.
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - The Steph Myth
2:05 - The Celtics Big Problem
4:25 - The Warriors front office
5:20 - Where Steph ranks all-time
8:24 - Up next
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This was a fitting way for the 75th season to end, 2 of the original teams battling it out in the grandest stage the Nba Finals and the team who won the championship in the inaugural year of this league comes away with the championship and Curry proving everyone wrong and getting that fmvp is such a special moment.
Yo that’s cool. 💯 it would’ve been cool to see Boston’s 18th title for the 75th anniversary, but like you said Warriors winning with Steph cementing his legacy as a top 10 player was special as well. 👏
I didn't even realize that, same result happened though.
LETS GO WARRIORS
They actually played each other in the finals in 1964. Boston won because they had Russell, who was the Jordan of his day (or the Shaq). My dad lived in SF at the time and his high school rooted for Boston because of how good they were.
So this was the 'revenge series' for GSW, even though only a few people remember the series.
@@syed123911 Steph Curry is the Greatest LOSING CHOKER IN SPORTS HISTORY!! Curry was carried ALL PLAYOFFS/FINALS by WIGGINS, POOLE, THOMPSON, AND GREEN!! STEPH only MIRACULOUSLY got FMVP because he HIRED those NBA VOTERS and paid them to only do what he wanted them to do!! I’ve never seen a PLAYER so SELFISHLY DEPENDENT on everyone else!!👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 yeah, dropping at least 29 points in 5/6 finals games definitely means he was carried
People forgot how Livingston was automatic from the mid-range. Even the Warriors' second unit was so lethal during those early years.
that dude's shooting like 100% every game bruh🥶🥶
@@randomnice1041 That's right! Anything from 18 feet in was $$$
I remember him and javale mcgee both went like 8/8 and 6/6 or something like that off the bench one game.
Facts
warriors 2nd unit in 2015 was better than 2022 piston and knicks
Tatumn ain't ready yet but you can't say he will never be ready.
No he had a point that the mindset is not there. That is something you dont learn later in life
Tatum will never be ready. He didn’t perform well at all. At this point, it’s slowly looking like it’s Jaylen Browns team
@@taddicus8769 Bro that’s what I’m saying. Tatum is not a superstar, he is a very good star, but he is not consistent at all
Brown should've gotten the ECF MVP than Tatum
Brown isn't better than Tatum in general
I do think that Tatum's mental will need to bump up a bit to push him over the edge but I think his humility will keep him away from drama while improving on his game for now.
you can be humble and have that killer mentality in the game, he should take one of the best quality his idol had, the mamba mentality.
Tatum trying so hard to be a kobe type player But hes no kobes level he needs to stop copying kobes move its so cringe for him
Curry thinks he’s the best shooter in the world, which he is. And you know what he said in the press when he was asked first thing about his MVP? He said, “Forget that? We CHAMPS.” Implying that the team comes first before him. So yeah, You can be a champion while also being humble.
Giannis is humble too but also have that killer instinct on the court.
Tatum should have been fmvp for the warriors with those clutch turnovers
6:20 Duncan was the best Player on the Spurs in '99, it's not even up for debate.
Truth, Tim averaged more points and rebounds than David Robinson. David Robinson was the leader of the team, but Timmy was the best player.
Yup, I agree. I said the same thing. AM Hoops was wrong on that one.
Steph does have a lot of similarity to Duncan in that he is no doubt the foundation of his team
Who do you rank higher all time?
@@imanolvides3185 depends.
Greatness: Steph
Best:Duncan
@@emmanuelmondesir1314 Duncan came in and made the spurs what they were instantly, Curry didn't
@@dakota8381 bruh. They won a chip after Curry joined. They say that Curry IS the team themselves lmao
@@dakota8381 yes he did
Curry is greater than Duncan
“Okay, maybe he wasn’t double teamed 7 times as much”
In the 2018 finals, he was doubled 4 times as much.
In the 2017 finals, he was doubled 14 times as much.
That’s gotta b bullshit, 14 times more than kd??
@@ag_24 Not sure about the exact figures but they should look something like that. Most if not all defenses prioritize steph over anybody else and double him more than almost any other player ever
@@ag_24 Yes, Ty Lue himself said that they prioritize defending Steph then KD and Klay
@@ag_24 I think it counts doubles and blitzes and stuff like that. But nonetheless he was doubled a lot more than KD
source?
Tatum didn’t “blow it”. Nor was it about confidence. Andrew Wiggins shut him down. No shame in that. I watched Wiggins shut down every team’s best player all season and in the playoffs. He’s becoming a monster.
Wiggins was supposed to be next big star player but didn’t fit in any of the previous teams due to a lot of inexperienced & young teammates or not proper coaching. Happy he finally found his role, I believe he can even be better as long he is around the right people. The warriors also had a really good bench w a lot of young players who needed to prove for themselves. With the help of weathered veterans and a great coach, these players have a bright future even if they leave the warriors. As of Tatum, I think he will be even better in the next couple years. You have to learn how to lose before you know how to win and he did it humbly
What he said is true tho he did blow it
He didn’t shut down every teams best player all season, did you not watch Bron drop 56 lol?
Imagine MJ being shut by Karl Malone, and then someone said “oh, MJ didn’t blow it. Karl Malone was a Monster.” ¡Karl actually was a real Monster! ¡But MJ was a BIGGER MONSTER! Also, Kawhi in 2019’s legendary semifinals was guarded by EMBIID AND SIMMONS, two fucking defensive Monsters and he WON anyways. JT is a Ponny, a Puppy, “WIGGINS was so good” what a shitty excuse. And I did not even mention all that Kobe theater he did for the media. Cringe.
@@CarterAntFan of course Wiggs is not on a level where he could stop great players. Even Luka was around 50% against him. It was just reassuring that someone in the Dubs can go "Okay, I will guard their best player" and let the others focus on their offense.
I am so tired of the disrespect to Kobe.
Word and they coming for Hakeem too in the comments. They need to watch their games.
im tired of u people kobe all day i get it he has a tough mental.But so what he put his team down by taking all the bad shot
I'm no kobe fan but he's still top 10 all time. I don't agree with him. Curry needs another ring and fmvp to overtake him.
@@nahshonchettiar2494 what kobe ranks in top ten?
@@williamgray5491 Kobe 12x all NBA defense to Currys Zero! Kobe 11 1st team all NBA to Currys 4. Curry will never be better than Kobe..
Curry is so good that when I see the words "Goat Curry" I don't even think about the dish.
Curry Goat!
As a Warriors fan this is my favorite season yet, Curry and the Warriors consistently being doubted and then proved everyone wrong, Curry passing the great Ray Allen for the Nba all time 3 pt record in Msg, Klay returning, Curry with 16 3’s in the Asg and the Asg Mvp, Poole and Gp2’s emergence onto the league, Wiggins proving everyone wrong that he is that guy, Draymond getting somewhat back to his old self (should’ve won Dpoy), Curry’s game winner against the Rockets, the big 3’s first game back with each other on Steph’s birthday and lastly the Warriors coming together and piecing together a finals run I will never forget that ended in Curry getting his fmvp that he deserves so much and the Warriors hoisting the Larry O’brien trophy. I’ve watched almost every Warriors game this year and I’ve witnessed many iconic moments this year, im so proud of this team and this is OUR YEAR!!!!!! WE BACK BABY AND WE THE CHAMPS, CANT EVER TAKE THAT FROM US!!!
undeserved
@@jonathanchen9587 cry more
GSW fans are unbearable, period. Bucks should hace won it
CURRY only fraudulently got FMVP because he Rigged the NBA VOTING SYSTEM!! He was sick and tired of being labeled as a CHOKER!! So in a desperate attempt make himself look good, CURRY SECRETLY HIRES those NBA VOTERS, AND PAID THEM to do only what he WANTED!! I mean it’s not like CURRY wasn’t CARRIED BY WIGGS, KLAY AND POOLE!!👎👎👎👎
@@javigar133 cry more
This championship definitely does more for KD's legacy than anyone. It makes it look even more like he HAD to go to an already great team to win. Steph just stayed Steph and won.
Erm no. If anything it hurts his legacy. It shows they never really needed him, especially since they just beat the team that swept his ass in the first round
@@redpillfreedom6692 your reading comprehension needs work
A championship 3 years later with a changed roster literally has no impact on him. You people are embarrassing.
@@brunostejskal208 “changed roster” the core guys from 2017-2019 are still intact and they won a Chip without KD. Stop validating his rings are truly phoney in terms of value. 💀
KD fans be making some lame excuses 😂
@@IMissOGRoblox Yes because in 2017-2019, Wiggins, Looney, Poole etc. played a massive role.
Dude, Tatum is only 24, people need to stop saying that he will never be ready, nobody knows that. If at the beginning of the season someone said the Celtics would get to the finals they would be called crazy. He had a bad series, everyone has those, specially if when it's his first final, I'll wait to see his next years before saying he doesn't have what it takes to be great, a superstar. The future of the Celtics is really promising with their young duo.
You see the 2nd Kobe, we see the 2nd Tracy McGrady 🤗 Neither are wrong persay but one is looking more probable each passing post season 🤭
Fr bros only 19
24 and only scored 2 points when it most MATTERED😂 Other players are young too and only getting better like POOL. EXCUSES EXCUSES 🤡
@@HIGHER7RUTH Poole is not better than Tatum, get out of your head
@@HIGHER7RUTH Poole averaged like 13 in the finals on bad efficiency and Kuminga only played in trash minutes. You say Poole is better than Tatum and you call the other guy a dickrider?
I am so glad and feel so proud to live in the Bay Area, and observe Steph’s stardom.
I am just so glad!
It's not that keeping Wiseman worked per se, it just didn't stop them. I'm excited to see what Wiseman can be
don't be wiseman is a outdated center that can't guard the perimeter and can't shoot either
Agreed
@@michaelsevilla3226 by that logic Draymond shouldnt be in the league
@@cuhmunitycarr140 wiseman and dray arent even close to the same lmao
@@xyizzx that doesnt invalidate what I said tho
Love the respect you put on Timmy's name
Amazing video, just wanted to say that Jason Tatum is only 25 or 24 and you have to be really mature/confident as a person to think your a superstar. Sometimes it takes people longer but I feel like he has it in him
You can say what you want about TATUM and the REST OF THE LEAGUE. But CURRY is the Greatest LOSING CHOKER IN SPORTS HISTORY!! Curry was carried ALL PLAYOFFS/FINALS by WIGGINS, POOLE, THOMPSON, AND GREEN!! STEPH only MIRACULOUSLY got FMVP because he HIRED those NBA VOTERS and paid them to only do what he wanted them to do!! I’ve never seen a PLAYER so SELFISHLY DEPENDENT on everyone else!!👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 lol. After all these years and a complete turnover in roster, and you're still angry...
Luka for example, that dude is a generational talent yes but his confident and mentality is way above his age. I'm sure Tatum can gain that confidence but he needs to get it as quick as possible.
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 lol calm down kid with all that hate. It sounds pathetic
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 you dont even have any rocket league highlights vids. Stop pretending you know sum bout basketball, poser.
Still have him at 11 behind Hakeem, Magic, wilt, LeBron, Duncan, bird, Kobe, Jordan, Kareem, and Shaq.
curry better all time than dream.
Sup hater how’s you day Leflop fan
Disagree, 5 rings 6 mvps rings with multiple teams
@@visno better isn’t greatest but I still agree
Man how can u put Hakeem (2-Chips) in front of Steph 🤦🏽♂️
3:46 Tatum should be happy people see that in him. I understand how that puts a lot more of pressure and expectations on him. But that comes with the territory of playing with a team like the Celtics.
Curry should be happy HE WON!! HIS TEAMMATES CARRIED HIS Lazy self! WIGGS, THOMPSON, and POOLE should’ve won FMVP over CURRY!! Instead, they get robbed because CURRY PAID THE NBA VOTING SYSTEM TO FREELY HAND HIM THE FMVP AWARD!! CURRY IS A SELFISH PLAYER!! He doesn’t deserve KLAY, WIGGINS, GREEN, and POOLE as his teammates!! CURRY DID THEM REAL DIRTY!!👎👎👎👎👎
I thought AMHoops was being unnecessarily hard on Tatum, but when I saw that take, my guy was justified
Duncan WAS the Spurs' best player of their '99 team.
I know he is A.M. hoops got his facts mess up again Timmy was the best in for their team in 99
I’m not picking sides I’m a big warriors fan but 3:57 Tatum is just being humble
Thanks for the props. I think he's right there in the backend of the top10 indeed. When it's all said and done, he might be undeniably top 5... scary!
Best analysis I’ve seen on that top 10 subject, agree 💯
I would love to see a video on how the dubs would be able to keep this lineup.. will they be able to pay and keep poole, wiggs, wiseman? Whats the next contracts of curry, klay, and dray going to look like? Curry would still be a max player probably..but klay and dray?
Curry is already signed for like 4 more years klay and dray like 2 more years. They will extend Wiggins for the same amount he’s making now and give Poole a 4 year 80 million dollar deal which will probably mean no more looney or GP2. They will probably just take the luxury tax hit and move on🤷♂️
@@TitusBoone looking at how the WARRIORS are BINDED by the NBA, shows me that they don't want to have a dynasty, at least from the WARRIORS..Joe was right when he said that because the warriors basically built the team, with draft picks, more than stars, (kd & ai) that they have to be taxed, the vets they bring, following the 2012 draft vet minimum contracts mostly. (read what Joe said).
The NBA fined him 500k for bringing this up..but looking at it..
THIS really seems, to me, extortion
IMO ...but I love the NBA Game.
I'm not by myself, either.
I would say Steph is in the same class as Michael Jordan, Shaquille O’Neal, Tim Duncan, and Kobe Bryant in the Finals. All five of those players had to face DPOY in the Finals.
Yes, Curry faced the DPOY in an era where you cant play actual defense.
@@dakota8381 did you even watch any NBA game this season? I bet not. The refs were tolerating more physical contacts ever since the start of this season.. No exception, Celtics were being very physical to steph, hand checked, reached, grabbed, pulled, pushed, all kind of contacts, nearly as physical as the bad boys' defense on MJ, and almost none was called..
People arguing defense are tougher in the past are delusional.. People forgot how easy it was for superstar players like MJ to draw foul calls when they were hand-checked, they almost always get the call every single time... In contrary to this season, the refs are ignoring any physical contact initiated by the ball handler.. Anyone can argue that this season the NBA is as physical as it has ever been.
Lebron faced draymond as well
@@qglow-5609 and lost the Finals to him
@@j.d.wilkes7189 He won the Finals against him too goofy
you've improved over this past year... Keep it up!
Amen brother! I've never heard it spoken so well.
another season watchin am hoops, ive seen your redemption arc, you went from mildly disliking steph to appreciating his greatness, W
What are you talking about I’ve literally seen him suck up to warrior fans all season he’s worse than flight
Kobe changed the game as well last time I checked with all the unbelievable shoots before Curry
Ok?
kobe barely be top 10 tbh
@@williamgray5491 Does coming from someone who can't spell barely
@@williamgray5491 Don't talk if u can't spell
@@quintaviousanderson2897 Sorry for my spelling, but it's true he is barely top 10
Bro you know I like your videos and takes, but that hair...gorgeous lol. Such a fun finals.
I'd still have kobe ahead of steph though.
Thank you man. Thank you for talking about this. I'm subbing to you now.
We can all have a certain take on Steph & his Championships but we must acknowledge that Steph was making his first ever Finals appearance in 2015 v a LeBron (albeit without Kyrie & Love) who was making his 6th Finals appearance & 5th straight. Steph still won though. Experience matters. Tatum 2022 Finals case in point.
I have steph on 7. For me, Kobe is top 5, and def in front of curry. 1 mj, 2 bron, 3 Kareem, 4 Kobe, 5 Magic, 6 russell, 7 steph, 8 Duncan, 9 Shaq, 10 Bird.
Steph shows more dominance than Wilt for example. Wilt is not a top 10 player, he was incredible in play offs, and had 2 great seasons, other than that, that’s it. Steph has 2 mvps, 1 finals mvp, 11 all stars, the three point record, and a 50 50 100 split over 70+ games
I got bron and mj tied for 1st Kobe 2nd Kareem 3rd bird 4th magic 5th Shaq 6th Duncan 7th steph 8th bill 9th wilt 10th
This is the most accurate NBA video I have ever seen
Man, I hate to say this but I like your opinion here. It makes a lot of sense and it hits a lot of points that most haters echo out.
U already know Flights knocking at A.M Hoops door after this.
3:40 this is the same thing Giannis gets heaps of praise for, just being humble
I don't think so, Giannis doesn't deny he's a superstar, but he credits the team for helping him be one and winning games. Tatum here doesn't see himself as a superstar. There's a fine line between being humble and not admitting it.
JT knows he that dude he still young so he tryna show respect. Also he never said a he isn’t he just said who spoke on my behalf. If JT is dropping 60 at this age he knows he’s that dude let’s be real
@@1Nolimittmo agreed, but this guy shouldn't be shying away from the spotlight like that. As of this year, he is a superstar in the NBA, and he might even be top 5 in the league right now. Which is incredible considering how young he is
He'll be fine though, just needs time to adjust to the spotlight, and at his age, he has time
About the celtics Jayson Tatum part, i think you put up a good point that he maybe doesn't have the confidence and finals losses don't help, but if he puts in enough effort he could be up there with the best considering he almost already is at such a young age. I think he could be one of the best and has played like the best before, but maybe some of the finals pressure got to him. You bring up a good point, but i think he'll be able to learn and adapt from this expierience
I think Tatum is just humble, he’ll be back tho…
great point.
I’m a big Curry fan but I like the challenge of finding other guys who have ‘changed the game’. I’m an old guy so my list refers to some ancient players:
George Mikan: voted the best player of the first half of the 20th century, he introduced the mobile big man that created Russell, Wilt, Olajuwon, et. al.
Bob Cousy: the ball handling magician of his day. You might pair him with Meadowlark Lemon, who influenced a lot of kids in those days with his ball handling shows for the Globetrotters.
Magic & Bird. They must go together, of course. Take it from me, the NBA was dull in those days (the excitement of ‘three to make two’). These guys jazzed things up.
The ABA. Remember they introduced the three point shot and guys like Dr. J put the dunk in the everyday game.
David Stern: got rid of the stupid rules against zone defenses
unfortunately we nba kids dont count people from the neolithic age. Those people could give me the illest description of a pterodactyl💀
Curry is inevitable and undeniable
Humble Superstar.
God of 3's🙇
how do you HOW to someone?
@@dabigbaby7193 shake their hand, idk
@@bailey5234 finally some help! will do
0:08 imagine being in the top 20 players list of ESPN and still being called “Oskar Robertson”😂💀
Tf you want him to do, change his name? Also isn’t “bill russel” “Michael Jordan” and “Tim Duncan” kinda basic?
I love your view on supreme confidence... Sometimes I see people so hard on someone for believing in themselves and I think but don't get best in the world have a sort of arrogance deep inside them thinking deep inside or outside that they are the best? Take for example boxing? If you don't think you are better than the opponent why even fight? You fight to prove you are superior, that you are more gifted and worked harder and are smarter and all that. Anyhow bit of a rant but I get tired of people wanting everyone to be fake humble.
So wait a minute… the warriors keyed in on Tatum, but he’s a superstar so he has to make something happen. But when the cavs locked in on curry it just is what it is? Idk if I just interpreted that wrong but that sounds real wild lmao.
The difference being efficiency and leading the team, Curry even when locked up didn't lose his cool, he tried his best and played at standards that for a normal player are elite... Tatum on the other hand was extremely inefficient, forcing shots, shooting 35% and attempting more than 20 shots per game ( plz don't shoot 20 shots if u gonna miss 65% of them for FFS ) and turning over the ball every other possession, not something u want your best player doing.
@@astakun6969 best player is jaylen brown easily
I'm pretty sure the point was that Steph still played good, while not being up to his standards. While Tatum played bad. I don't know though I'm not A.M.
@@aaron8445 brown have the better mentality, sadly he too was riddled with turnovers.
@@astakun6969 Tatum turned into the wrong Kobe, the one in the finals agasint the Pistons lol
Steph is not better than Kobe or Shaq. To me, he moves up top 11 all time. While Kobe is top 5, and Shaq top 10.
Preach young man preach🙌🏿
I agree with this
No way we have the same exact top 10. I made my list last night before i saw this video thats crazy
I just love how his videos move on to the next one
As a warriors fan and steph fan, never disliked a video that is praising my team as much as this.
To bring steph up, you constantly brought others down. His legacy and skill speaks for itself, theres no need to bring others down, especially great hall of famers to make your point.
Curry is trash
The TWolves have to get some credit for the Warriors championship lol. The passed on Curry TWICE in 09, they couldn’t get the Klay Thompson for Kevin Love trade done in 2014, and the overpaid for DLo by giving them Wiggins and Kuminga. Yikes
Facts
Let me repeat that "YIKES"🤣🤣🤣🤣
He is a true team player and that is one big part why he is one of the best you need to be a team player in basketball to win
Thanks!
6:28 Why would you go for DRob over Duncan? I'd thought you'd lean for Kawhi over him in 2014.
Yeah that was a weird comment. The Admiral was still great but he was past his prime. TD was the best player on that team, easily.
The 2014 team was the only one where TD wasn’t clearly the best player, probably the most egalitarian side to win a title, everyone was a role player in a sense. Kawhi’s defence at that time set him apart and made him the most valuable guy on the roster and the difference between them being a good playoff team and a contender.
Started watching the video after the first minute you really undervalued Andrew Wiggins in the Finals he was phenomal!! Without him Dubs loose. I agree this is the worst team Steph has won a championship but it's not too far off from the 2015 warriors as a roster they were deeper that's all.
Man, this is a perspective on Tatum I never thought of, and I can see it. If Tatum was hungrier, we'd see it, and we'd probably be seeing a Game 7, or even the Celtics winning 2022.
I LOVE YOU FOR GIVING TIMMY D THE CREDIT HE DESERVES! GO SPURS GO! INTANGIBLES!
Saying Tatum can’t reach the finals again is big cap bro Steph was focused on in the finals and he sold too and he was young and lost the finals bro and still won 4 chips
Steph wasn't even in the playoffs at Tatums age.
I swear people just be dragging stuff lmao,that defense was simply on they ass
The top 10 players all time have Jordan, lebron, kareem, magic, kobe, Wilt, bird, Duncan, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem in the conversation. But with this run, Curry is probably ahead of some of these guys
Bron isn’t top 5. Are you nuts???😆😆
i like this list except i think shaq should be higher, but overall, good list 👍
im surprised he didn´t give more props to Pool. He was a beast during the finals and the entire season. He surprised everyone
My man i couldn't agree with you more
so shaq didnt change the game? they legalized zone defenses
This team is most definitely better than 2015’s team, that team was obviously good but in no way can you compare Harrison Barnes to Andrew Wiggins who completely locked up Tatum in this series.
Give this team it’s flowers Steph needed this team as much as this team needed Steph.
This warriors team was a better team I agree
@@deebofleebo6427 lol klay just came back from injury , and technically the 15 team was all in their prime with an extremely deep bench
Tatum should try to be the next Durant. He's not quite strong enough nor agile enough. Maybe an elite point guard or a prime stretch 4 could raise him up.
Great to see Steve Kerr talking about the Warriors here
The Celtics choking game 4 was the beginning of the end for them.
Yeah seems like there just still too inexperienced. They definitely had the physical tools and talent to get it done but they especially meaning Tatum and Brown need some more playoff runs and wisdom. I was cringing so many times at all there dangerous passes and sloppy drives into the paint. Even if just Tatum had better awareness and vision they couldve won if he makes the right plays instead of all the crucial turnovers and forced bricks.
I knew Butler or Giannis deserved the finals more than Tatum
@@thecamishere4344 Becaude they have finals experience
Jaylen Brown was the best player for the Celtics in the Finals
Make Jaylen the first option and Tatum second. Then get a pure point guard
Agree
He's just humble he would never put himself out there like that
Couldn't agree more.
I think Shaq was equally big of a game changer if not bigger.
That was the time when we saw paint dominance. With players like KG, Duncan,Ming other bigs taking the center stage.
In terms how the game was changed I think Shaq and Curry are the ones who defined eras for how basketball is going to be played moving forward.
Precisely. Steph is the Shaq of this Era, but he can shoot free throws.
@@roronoazorro9509 yea in dominance bc just as dominant shaq was curry might’ve matched it
Dominating the paint is not changing the game. Come in now. There have been many many many players who have dominated the paint in the past.
Did you forget about Wilt, Kareem, Russell, Mikan etc.? A dominant big man was the recipe for NBA success from it's inception.
Steph ain’t on top of Kobe. Dude got rigged on multiple MVPs. Those Shaq championships he averaged 28+ ppg. Not to mention his other accolades on team USA, All star mvps, etc. Steph is great, but he ain’t on top of Kobe.
Kobe is a three time sidekick and average less in his early years if kobe is that so great he will average more but not so many stop that cap like kobe is the greatest he's good but top 7 hell nah maybe 8
he is back
The warriors are my team and Steph is my favorite player in the league that’s currently playing. However, until at least one more championship and one more Finals MVP where he takes over, I can’t put him top ten. I have him currently 11-12th, right around there. He is close though.
He probably has at least 4 or 6 years if Kd joins warriors he can get another ring and if he does good he can get a fmvp then I can put him in my top 10 all time even ahead of Kobe or maybe similar to him
The TD disrecpect continues. You can put him in GOAT convo honestly.
Lmao 😂
@@kevinsauza5793 what is funny about it? Do you know his accolades?
Tim duncan should be near the end of the top 10 list no way in hell he in the goat convo the only ppl in the goat convo is Jordan and Lebron maybe Karrem but thats it
@@kevinsauza5793 Kareem's case is too weak because of Magic 🤣
When you say GOAT the number 1 criteria should be consistent greatness. Which you can find in Duncan's whole career
I’d take the 2022 Warriors over the 2015 team
Nah 2015 draymond and 2015 klay is a beast
2022 Curry > 2015 Curry
@@rocketfighter8 true but the rest of the team wasn’t better like klay and Draymond
@@lilchappyrap yea and Livingston was automatic bruh, the 2015 bench was easily better than the 2022 bench
Curry 2022 is way better overall but the team overall was very very good in 2015!
actually, the official stats say steph was double teamed more than 7x than KD....so he was actually being generous.
You got the list right! Yep!!!
False! Kobe 11x first team all NBA to Currys 4. Kobe 12x all NBA defense to Currys Zero. Curry will never be better than Kobe..
I have to disagree with your comment curry doesn't pass Kobe maybe Shaq but that's maybe. Curry had it handed to him with most of his rings Kobe didn't u can make case with shaq
I agree with your top 14, idk probably swap in 8th Wilt, 7th Timmy, and 6th Larry. Timmy and Larry can be debated for that 6th spot
He didn't make that top 14, he found it on ESPN
Wilt is too high as a reward for stat padding. His team didn't win the championship when he was averaging 50. So those numbers inflate his greatness. Regardless of who created the list.
Nope…maybe Larry Bird but not Tim Duncan NO WAY!!!!
@@Dryltd exactly. Imagine if steph wanted to say “fuck it, I’m playing 48 minutes and taking every other shot from now on” you can’t tell me wouldn’t average 50ppg for at least two or three seasons.
@@Dryltd He had 4 other players average double digits that year. That team was just know as an offensive dominate team. He also average nearly 26 rebounds that year, so he probably was getting 20ish points from put backs a game.
Honestly, that ESPN list isn't too bad, which tbh is surprising. I would have Steph between Kobe and Shaq, but I agree with your reasoning. He could still easily take that off him if he can be a duncan-esque leader as he ages.
You’re so right
6:22...Sorry AM Hoops, but I disagree with you when you say that Tim Duncan was NOT the best player on that 1999 Spurs team. He most definitely was the best player on that team.
David Robinson was the best player, Tim was still a pup
@@javigar133 Tim Duncan averaged 27.4 points, 14.0 rebounds, 2 blocks, 1 steal, and 2.4 assists on 53.7 FG%.
David Robinson averaged 16.6 points, 11.8 rebounds, 3.0 blocks, 1 steal, and 2.4 assists on 42.4 FG%.
@@imagine5366 so your argument is who ever got the better stats means there better ?
@@thekingofla1204 Well when it's that big of a difference then ... yes
@@imagine5366 by your logic Oscar was better than Kareem because he had better stats when they played together ? Right
The warriors in my opinion will be chip contenders next season for sure, Stephen Curry is now top 10 of all time no matter who says this or that. The Celtics on the other hand need help. Tatum needs to improve because he is inconsistent. Jaylen Brown to me was always the better Celtic than Tatum. Tatum just hasn't taken a leap of faith and move on to another level. It is like the whole Celtics squad disappeared except for Brown, Horford, and Williams which played great.
*If healthy
Curry is not top 10
@@blp73 That is your opinion, not mine. To most people's eyes, after the title. He is top 10.
We acting like Tatum is 35 years old. He’s still young, him not having “it” I would have to disagree. He had a great playoff run he probably was gased playing 2 series going to 7 games when the Warriors didn’t play more than 5 in their previous match ups. Tatum is a soft spoken and humble guy when have we ever seen him trash talk? I know he has “it” its just a matter of learning and time before he takes it up to the next level. He’ll be back him and Giannis will be competing for the ECF for the next few years
Steph don't care about the finals mvp or about the individual acheivement, he cares about his team, Godbless steph, stay humble and always thanks God for all the things that God has given to you☝😇🙏.
i love Steph I agree he surpasses Shaq but no way he surpasses Kobe.
Tatum and brown aren’t in there prime yet but ok
I agree 100%
I remember maybe 2-3 years ago Jason Tatum says when he got a new cut he’s top five
Duncan was always the best player for Spurs, Kobe won twice without Shaq
Not in 2014
Kobe had 12 first and second all defensive teams. Tied at most defensive teams with Kevin Garrett and you telling me curry is better than kobe. Kobe carried Shaq through the western conference. The west had Tim Duncan hakeem mailmann and David Robinson etc.. Bigs who can actually guard Shaq. The only good defensive big Shaq played against in thier 3peat years was an aging mutombo. That's why he dominated the finals.
FACTS!
7:26 hey, there is this person called Giannis antetokounmpo, but yeah you can say Curry is the most humble.
I think Tatums finals is like what happened to Steph in 2016
I love Curry as much as the next guy but he still hasn't passed any of the guys you named - Kobe in particular.
Yes, Steph is an all time great, that has 4 rings, 2 MVP's and a FMVP (finally). He also helped revolutionize the game into what it is today. However, let's not act like Kobe wasn't everything Steph was, and more... 5 rings, 2 FMVP's, and an MVP. Inspired countless with his mindset, and unlike Curry, he was an elite defender. Not decent or good, elite, and defense is half of the game.
Again, all the respect to Curry, but let's not be prisoners of the moment. Guy still has a few good years ahead of him, and he has more than a chance at getting more rings and a FMVP or two.
I just don't get this disrespect to the other greats... I mean hell, at least let the guy retire first...
My problem with this narrative is why with those same Accolades is everyone cool with Kobe being 9, and Bron being 2. Steph has the same amount of titles with less finals and now has almost as many trophies as Bron and a few that he doesn’t. Including the leagues first unanimous mvp and unanimous Finals MVP. 3000 3 point record and counting. And he’s changed the game of basketball. Bron has had a longer career and is still playing, but he still gets to be ranked #2. I’d rather be a prisoner to the moment than a prisoner to history and not be able to admit when we’re seeing something we’ve never seen before, and he’s done it with the same team. Kobe wasn’t everything Steph is, his percentage isn’t the same. If Kobe hit 50, he put up 100. It’s not the same. And we’re comparing elite defense to a 6’3 point guard. I’d put Kobe and Steph in front of Larry Bird. He didn’t ‘help’ revolutionize the game. HE revolutionized it. Don’t downplay that man’s accomplishments
@@jayowulf8464 Kobe is ranked higher than Curry and LeBron deserves top 3 ranking ever
@@jayowulf8464 Personally I have Kobe higher than 9, and personally I think it's ridiculous for him to be ranked lower than 7. I'm also not big on the LeBron hype train, he is definitely top 5, maybe top 3, and he will likely finish as top 2 - But again, personally, I'd wait to see if he gets a few more accolades under his belt - Like breaking Kareem's record.
I value rings really highly, but I also think that not every ring is the same. For example I would put Hakeem over Shaq in my list, although it would be a close call.
It's well known that Kobe wasn't the most effective player. But he also played in the slowest, most defensive dominant, and least effective era - Just look up the stats. I'm not denying that Steph is more efficient than Kobe - Hell, he's one of the most efficient players (shooters namely) in history. But when you look at what each of them did, and how they contributed to their teams, Kobe did more.
Again, defense is half of the game. You cannot simply discredit something as major as that. Nobody is expecting him to have a DPOY under his belt, but it's only recently that he's became an average, to slightly above average defender. For a big part of his career he was below average, and a liability. Kobe on the other hand was elite for most of his career, and average for a small part near his retirement - This doesn't only apply to Kobe either; both Duncan and Hakeem were elite defenders as well.
And I'm not downplaying his accomplishments either. Just because I have him in the top 12-15 range on my list doesn't mean that I think he's bad - He's still (at least) a top 15 player OF ALL TIME. That's still amazing. I just don't think he deserves to go in front of some of the other guys for simply "revolutionizing" the game - I mean each and every person in that top 10 revolutionized the game in their own way. You can argue that Steph was more impactful than most, but is that really enough to just outright disregard everything else? I mean Duncan has more rings, more FMVP's same amount of MVP's and 15 defensive first teams to Curry's 0. Does that not count for anything?
@@dewman7477 LeBron is not a top three player all time he is top five and he’s number five at best! Steph with this championship is top 15 undoubtedly. If he wins another championship the finals MVP snd another regular season MVP top 10 no doubt.
@@jayowulf8464 Yes Steph Curry is without a doubt top three impactful players to ever play the game. You have Michael Jordan, Shaq and Steph Curry just the name three guys who are the most impactful in NBA history. Change the way teams play and they set a certain paradigm for winning.
Durants gonna sign with the team that swept him obviously lol
That’s a great point. Tatum need to be WAY more confident
to be honest I feel like Jason Tatum was just being noble im a warriors fan but he's got crazy potential
Wait….ahead of KOBE BRYANT?! A man that scored 81 points in a single game?! The last man that 3peated?! 2x Finals MVP? 4x Allstar MVP, better defensive player as well cause offense isn’t the only thing that counts…A.M Hoops…stop it!
I just turn off the video ☠️ everyone hates and under rate Kobe so much it’s crazy
That's what I'm saying he is lying. To be real curry was injured this season. Jordan Poole and others had to step up. Poole carried the team for most of the playoffs until the finals. Curry shined there.
@@thekingofla1204 facts it's shame they do that. Curry had kd,Andre,green,Klay,Poole,Payton Jr I know he didn't play but shoot they had the #2pick of last year in Wiseman how much more help he need smh
Kobe as more freaking all nba FIRST teams(11) than curry has all stars (8)
Am hoops crazy for putting him over kobe who was amazing two way player just cus curry ‘changed the game’
@@thekingofla1204 this am hoops white guy always be hating on Kobe. I’ve never seen him give the respect to Kobe unless it’s talking about his death
I agree Luka is a great comp for taytum except Luka has the killer mindset and supreme confidence which taytum lacks. Thats why i trust Luka more in the playoffs than i trust taytum and always will
Luka played pro in Europe at 16 years old. So his experience/journey is a lot different. He has been around older players/mentors for minute and that’s why he can carry the Mavs. Give tautum 2-3 more years to reach his peak.
@@henrylam92 sure but luka was always like this even in Europe it wasn't like he has become like this after learning. He was this confident even when he was a 16 year old playing against grown men and was winning chips and mvps. I think it's something you are just born with like mj and kobe were. You either have it or you don't and taytum doesn't look like he has it. Brown looks more like a killer than he does at times but i hope you are right I like jt hope he figures it out
@@someshnarayan7368 I believe that mentality can be gained over time. It just takes a lot of practice and experience. Some have it earlier, some may gain it later. It just depends who they surround with and coaches. Kobe was nowhere like that when he started off, did he have the technical abilities? Sure, but he took time to develop to the next level after Shaq left bc he wasn’t in the shadows anymore and found his role. Funny thing is that Kobe lost in the finals against an experienced Celtics team 2-4 in 07/08 (2 years after shaq). This current Celtics team (average age below league’s avg) on paper looks great, I believe they have a good shot at winning the finals the next upcoming seasons as long they can retain everyone and add that extra umph/player to the team.
I lived in Europe half my life and it’s different mentality out there then over here in the States. As of now Tautum is a team player, asking him those kind of questions after losing the finals is kind of unfair to judge him.
everyone's defence out performed in the warriors. Especially Wiggins. That dude was a diamond in the rough and the warriors polished him good af.
Warriors bested the best defensive team in the game!
Warriors out-rebounded Memphis who was no. 1 in rebounds
Warriors beat a Celtics team 3 straight. Last time Celtics lost 3 straight was in January.
Steph Curry not only is God's greatest shooter ever made, he also played a great defensive role to round out the Warriors defense prowess that is the best in the league.
Steph is a legend along with Klay and Dray...
7:21 recency bias kicking in. Steph Curry's impact on the game and how it's played is significant for this generation of great players, but don't pretend that others on this list didn't impact it in an equally significant way, particularly Shaq. There were A LOT of rule changes and style changes made to the NBA because of Shaq, like introducing the Zone defense to the NBA. He was just as unstoppable though in a different way than Steph and his impact is every bit as significant! Other players who came before Steph who changed the game and how it's played:
Bob Cousy
Wilt Chamberlain
David Thompson
Julius Erving
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
A far from complete list, but let's not pretend like the NBA was boring and unwatchable the previous 60 years before Steph came along with his barrage of perimeter scoring. So many players impacted it equally if not more significant ways before he was even born.
Steph changed the 3 pointer for ever. You wrote a whole paragraph for no reason
That is true, but you gotta give credit to the Baby Face Assassin!
Steph changed the game forever while the others changed the game for a period of time
Facts
@@taddicus8769 the league started taking more threes from 2011 onward. Actually they’ve gone up every year due to statistics and analytics realizing the value 📈 if Steph never played in the nba the league would’ve still changed. If bird, Miller, Allen, or any of the other great shooters played in this era they would’ve shot way more threes too. If Steph played in the 80s he wouldn’t have shot as many. Different games