That one cracked me up cause it hit home. The amount of CGI in this movie compared to LOTR really killed the movie for me. Couldnt take the Orcs, Elves or the goblins serious in this movie because of it.
AAAAAND now I'm totally effed up because remembering the WARHAMMER dungeon lvl 8 wehre eagles pick you up and drop you in the dungeon ar the start....And at the end one got the ability to become a deer..... One deer guided me once when i was in the lvl 40 area the first time to deliver a flag savely during a special event. Memories. RIP Dec 18 th 2014 And to add even more I'll watch the Trailers and our memorial vid....
Thorin at beginning of AUJ: "I hate you Bilbo and don't trust you" Thorin at end of AUJ: "I misunderstood you and like you now" Thorin at beginning of DoS: "I hate you Bilbo and don't trust you" Thorin at end of DoS: "I misunderstood you and like you now" Thorin at beginning of BotFA: "I hate you Bilbo and don't trust you" Thorin at end of BotFA: "I misunderstood you and now you are my friend and now I'm dead"
"Are the dwarves gonna have fun personalities so we can tell them apart?" "No, but three of them will be noticeably better looking than the rest." "What? - why would? - why?" "Well, this movie lacks the obvious eye candy that really made the Lord of the Rings trilogy a success." "Are you saying we need to cater to thirsty people to make money?" "That certainly seems to be the case." Producer Guy (on phone): "Hey, Orlando, you got a minute?"
"But what would Legolas do in the movie?" "Well, he'll just *be* there. Maybe do some gravity defying moves and hey - you should get him a lady friend!" "But shouldn't we focus on the dwarfs?" "My bad. Make one of the sexy dwarfs part of an interspecies love triangle! Gotta draw that Twilight crowd in."
If I'm remembering it right they took Bilbo along because, in the event that the dragon wasn't gone, it wouldn't recognize the scent of a Hobbit. That would allow him to sneak inside and the dragon wouldn't immediately be on guard compared to if it smelled a Dwarf
Hobbits are also remarkably good at stealth, even compared to dwarves, and Gandalf had always had some idea that hobbits needed to be involved in the final defeat of Sauron in some way, so bringing Bilbo along on an adventure was the first step in a long plan to make hobbits as a whole more adventurous.
Gandalf probably had some premonition that they would need a burglar with some moral sense, rather than a more mercenary personality you would likely get with a professional.
@Joseph Douek surprisingly yes. More than once actually. I often times gather round with my friends as we drink and smoke a couple of phatt ones we binge watch them. Never gets old. This guy is a genius. Somehow underrated in terms of popularity. You'd also think this kind of shtick will get old, but it's just pure gold.
And then Little Aragorn he's so mad that he attacks Azog and he just gets his but kicked. Then Bilbo does a back flip, snaps the bad guys neck and saves the day.
How many characters not encountered until LOTR appear in this first installment alone. Apparently there is a female character and romance for Thorin in the next two films?
@@android584 Kili, not Thorin. They created an elven Mary Sue whose sole purpose is to fall in love with him, not really caring all that much that he's a dwarf and their races are supposed to hate each other, thus completely destroying the major significance of Legolas and Gimli's friendship later. And of course Legolas himself also swoons over her but since Thranduil deems her a 'lowly Silvan elf' obviously she is not suitable for him despite being such an amazing fighter, being SO AHEAD OF HER TIME since she argues that the whole dwarven/elven thing isn't helping either of their races and they should aid the dwarves in their quest, being a captain of the guard etc etc etc. I despise her with every atom of my being :)
Sadly, this is entirely accurate. For over ten years I've watched the LOTR extended edition trilogy back to back to back once a year. I've watched the Hobbit movies once each. Take that for what you will.
@@theaveragejoe7966 He also plays an important role in world building. Though for the movie I get why they cut him. Sure it would explain why merry could hurt the witch king down the line. And he is mentioned at the council. But cinematically, it might have been thirty minutes of content that was not conducive to the story in Jackson's eyes.
I'd have preferred *one* really long film. But then again I'm someone who wishes the ROTK extended edition was even longer, so maybe my opinion is warped! 😂
My ideal Hobbit movie would be directed more like a road movie, rather than an epic. When trying to compete with LOTR, the Hobbit can only ever fall short - but as a road movie of hapless travellers getting in WAY over their heads, it has huge potential.
So you have a movie adaptation for me? Yessir I do! It's a kids series called Percy Jackson and it's kind of a big deal. Wow, I'm really interested in seeing how you adapt the book! No. What?
There's a character named Annabeth who is described as being 17 with "honey blonde" hair, so we're going to cast an actress with black hair that looks like she's in her early 30's.
I just clicked on a playlist of these, not sure what to expect. This is great. I'm on my 4th so far and at this point I'm anticipating the "sounds like it might be hard"..."bearly an inconvenience" moment.
"Do you have a movie pitch for me today?" "Well, I thought we could adapt this one book by Robert Heinlein. You know, that one everyone in Aliens read?" "Really? What's it about?" "I don't know. I dropped it five pages in." "Oh wowowowowow!"
Given that they started making these films with an unfinished script and not much planning, I was hoping to finally hear: “So, you have a movie for me?” “No, sir, I don’t!”
They barely even had a director ready. Guillermo Del Toro was originally supposed to direct it, but since he decided to leave, they got Peter Jackson in. Instead of adapting to the circumstances and give him more pre-production time, they sticked to the deadline and gave him only 3-4 months until full production. Hence, why we see so much CGI in the finished product.
because I was anticipating the hobbit trilogy's pitch meetings, I actually felt a jolt of joy upon seeing the notification. I highly appreciate the series, and I bow to you.
"I don't know. Fair enough" "Super easy, barely an inconvenience" "I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that" They're the running gags and I love it whenever they're said
Keep in mind that Tolkien's books were inspired by his WWI trauma... and LOTR movies did bypass a LOT of that subtext and even the sad return to the Shire by the end of the books where the Shire was really Orc-ish in how the Hobbits became. Blibo was actually blessed in going to the place the Elves were leaving to.
@@amegam4705 it's a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference. The actor is Arthur Dent in the movie, and the acting he does is near the same as he did with Bilbo.
I remember going to the theater, not knowing this movie was just the first of a trilogy. I had read the book, so an hour and a half in, I was like, "Damn! There's a lot of story left. They better pick up the pace."
@@inarencommander4663 it's not even a controversy it's dumbasses not realizing the eagles would've been either corrupted by the ring or they would've been killed by the thousands of orcs guarding Mordor
05:13 I was expecting the "producer" to angrily say: "don't say eagles!" Then the "writer" stumble for a while with a guilty face,but ultimately saying: "do you have a better solution to my writer's block?" And ,finally, "producer" saying: "eagles it is,then!"
It really upsets me that the story was mostly fine but was visualised as more sombre than lotr. The Hobbit was a kids book and lotr was an adult series
I enjoy the second movie the most, personally. Mostly because Smaug is absolutely awesome, but I also enjoy the Dol Guldur bits, and Mirkwood. Not a fan of the Laketown stuff, though
@@madspet9106 Yeah Smaug is great, but I do feel they cheapened him a little with the whole slapsticky cat-and-mouse scene where he's chasing the dwarves through the mountain (not in the books ofc) - it made him seem incompetent and clumsy. Smaug & Bilbo scenes were awesome though. Also the Legolas & Tauriel scenes are way too over-the-top for me; I am not against his inclusion, but he got too much screen time at the expense of original characters (who were actually in the book) like Beorn and the dwarves.
I love how PJ resurrected Azog even though a note in the book says Azog was killed during the same battle he lost his arm and his son was actually fighting during the Battle of the Five Armies.
I’m such a big lotr fan but have just not been able to watch these movies since I saw what they looked like. I’m shocked because it was incredible what they did with practical effects and locations… (it sounds from here) each main character being extremely memorable… I can’t do it, that first trilogy means so much.
Yeah, Thorin being tiny Aragorn makes no sense - he is supposed to be much older (including in appearance) than the other dwarves and a little less heroic. His youthfulness in this is a bit of a plot hole.
@@raydunakin Agreed, I prefer the older and wiser book Frodo - his relationship with Sam and his position as Gollum's master makes more sense in the book as a result.
Also, the massive popularity of Gandalf among readers and viewers shows that badass older characters can be just as, if not often more, beloved than younger characters so I don't always get this need to make certain characters younger. We already had brave younger characters in the book like Fili and Kili who sacrifice themselves protecting their uncle in battle.
I don't even subscribe, the algorithm knows I watch all the pitch meetings so it always comes up in recommended, I don't even know what else this channel does
@@bobxyzp Can confirm. I subscribed to Ryan George's personnal channel, and then I just watch Pitch Meetings everytime they pop on my feed, and they pop. You truly don't need Screen Rant.
The original trilogy is so close to my heart that I literally watch at least one of them a week. They were done with such care no matter what they had to cut or add. I've seen these 3 Hobbit movies 1 time and that was more than enough for a lifetime. Awesome review, almost exactly how I reacted upon watching them 😂
As much as the Frodo Cameo was unnecessary I kinda liked it because he did live with Bilbo so it makes sense he’d be walking around and eventually pass by a camera or 2
@@oriitsemisan What's your point? Bilbo is 50 in the hobbit, and turns 111 in LoTR, when Frodo turns 33 at the Party. 17 years pass before Frodo and Sam leave Hobbiton. Frodo is not a part of the Hobbit, any more than Legolas is. Elves, and Dwarves do not have unrequited love in the Hobbit, any more than Arwen considered taking a ship from the Gray Harbor in LoTR. The LoTR was a mess, the Hobbit was just crap.
Whatever the detractors say, at least we got to see the same actors reprising their roles. Can't imagine any other actors playing Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond. RIP Old Bilbo
@@HighWideandHandsome nor Legolas, tauriel, or azog. They spent at least a week with beorn, who played a greater roll in the book, and who did not look so gosh darn ridiculous. There was less hatred towards the elves. There was no unobrow guy. Bard was captain of the guard/ archers, not some disgraced boatman. Rankin bass did a far better job of making The Hobbit than this trilogy did. Though even that version had to cut content.
"That is a horrifying idea- that we'll probably do someday!" Somehow, Pitch Meeting managed to sum up my dad's personal family goals in just one sentence. Kudos.
For those who don't know, the "what do I have in my pocket" riddle only worked because of how old and sheltered gollum was. It was explained as gollum has been alone in the cave for such a long time that the last he'd actually been around civilization "what do I have in my pocket" was a legitimate riddle.
Everyone looks like dwarves for the dwarves except for Fili, Kili and Thorin. They are the most handsome dwarves ever. Probably because they're the only one who die of the main cast.
I'm personally a fan of the idea that the different races have vastly different beauty standards and to dwarves, they are not attractive at all. Same with Hobbits, to them, Sam is the most attractive one because he's the biggest. Frodo would maybe be considered pretty by elf standards, and Thorin looks great through human eyes, but to dwarves? Maybe to them, Dwalin is the hottest.
It's even sadder, to think that Tolkien based those who die off of his best friends that died during WWI.😭😭😭😭 Which Pitch Meeting needs to do the movie Tolkien!!!! Also can't watch Tolkien without crying each time they mention that all but one friend died. Completely off topic... but in Tolkien I'm not the only one to catch that the guy who pulls him to safety mentioning "I'm Sam" is the movie's nod to Sam of the next book carrying Frodo and the ring for a short time, right????
*Ryan:* Making countless terrible unnecessarily dramatic movies just so people can buy them and give terrible ratings is is super easy barely an inconvenience *Other Ryan:* But shouldn’t we make the movies good? *Ryan:* Nah just give the characters weird names and its all just gonna kinda work *Other Ryan:* Wowow weird names are TIGHT
Make it the made for tv remake. That was deserves the roasting. (Seriously, the acting is middle school play quality, they did the Time Warp wrong, and they took Magenta's name too literally with that wig.)
That's because all or most of the LotR ones were suits and masks, wearing real Weta armor. These were just CGI. Uncanny valley much? In all fairness, had these been in a videogame, they would have been terrific graphics. But not for a movie. Not for Middle-Earth.
@@stardancer119 haha for real! Perfect for a game but horrible for a movie. Did you ever see the original design/costume for azog? It was used instead as that side orc who is taunting gandalf in the cage
@@coreyw5981 Yes! To have quality design wasted like that, just hurts! And the fact (if I recall correctly) that Bolg actually *was* a suit and mask, and they had to CGI over him because *he looked too realistic next to all the CGI orcs*...🙈
@@maestrotitano It's literally more helpful for obnoxious people like you to not say anything at all. You literally felt the need to go "I know but I'm not going to tell you."? Pathetic.
Evan Taylor several reasons. 1. He viewed hobbits as more good natured than dwarves, men, elves, etc. 2. He had already met Bilbo and saw him as more adventurous than the other hobbits. 3. Bilbo had no close relatives or family members.
@@guyjperson yeah but it might have taken him a while to get to them if nobody commented that they were interested in seeing them so I figured I should comment he has to do the other ones because you know we don't want to wait for a long time to see him do the others
Bilbo really wasn't needed. He was mostly hired because Gandalf went 'this guy could use an adventure' and then setting him up to get hired for an adventure. Also, it's a reference to Beowulf, but that's another story
"But Hobbits are naturally unobtrusive. Inconspicuous. They possess from the first the art of disappearing swiftly and silently, when large folk whom they do not wish to meet come blundering by; and this art they have developed until to Men it may seem magical." He has a family history of adventurous hobbits.
That's not true. In the book Gandalf stated to Thorin that they might want Bilbo because a Hobbit scent would be different to Smaug than a Dwarf scent. That in addition to Hobbits being natural burglars.
5:00 "And the goblins in the book had this mocking cheerful song about wingless birds in a tree that really added to the spirit of the scenes that we are going to completely remove and recycling the Ring Wraith theme for no good reason."
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Which movie do you want to see us pitch next?!
I think Crazy Rich Asian is "tight" :D
Cuties
Do a compilation of a bunch of them
Transformers: The Movie (1986 animated feature)
make a "the Boys" pitch meeting
"Offensively so" has been added to the repertoire.
Repertoire has been added to mine
Being offensively so is tight
@@workingstiff0586 oh sir I so very much feel offensively about your comment
@@FussyPickles you feel offensively?? I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that
@@FussyPickles It'll make this whole thing super easy barely an inconvenience
“Goblins - made with CGI?”
“Oh offensively so!”
“Wow wowwowwowwowwow!”
Mosznobrody
That one cracked me up cause it hit home. The amount of CGI in this movie compared to LOTR really killed the movie for me. Couldnt take the Orcs, Elves or the goblins serious in this movie because of it.
@@yancieb Same here. It was as if the whole movie was that scene in Return of the King when Legolas surf down the Mûmakil, again and again and again.
They would have been better off making it fully computer animated.
The birds are like warp points in the Zelda games. They will get you somewhere. Not at the place you need to be, but somewhere
So Greez and Cere in Jedi: Fallen Order
AAAAAND now I'm totally effed up because remembering the WARHAMMER dungeon lvl 8 wehre eagles pick you up and drop you in the dungeon ar the start....And at the end one got the ability to become a deer.....
One deer guided me once when i was in the lvl 40 area the first time to deliver a flag savely during a special event.
Memories. RIP
Dec 18 th 2014
And to add even more I'll watch the Trailers and our memorial vid....
It’s spelled “birbs “
@@janedoex1398 What Warhammer game?
So true
Thorin at beginning of AUJ: "I hate you Bilbo and don't trust you"
Thorin at end of AUJ: "I misunderstood you and like you now"
Thorin at beginning of DoS: "I hate you Bilbo and don't trust you"
Thorin at end of DoS: "I misunderstood you and like you now"
Thorin at beginning of BotFA: "I hate you Bilbo and don't trust you"
Thorin at end of BotFA: "I misunderstood you and now you are my friend and now I'm dead"
Such is the volatility of a dwarf.
Although does he hate him in DoS?
To be fair, near the middle of DoS/start of BotFA, he was suffering from dragon sickness. Though I don’t remember it being so extreme in the book?
@@violetlavi2207 It was a big deal, but the movie made it worse
It's like 3 character arcs for the price of one!
@@S4ns it feels more like one arc for the price of three
"Are the dwarves gonna have fun personalities so we can tell them apart?"
"No, but three of them will be noticeably better looking than the rest."
"What? - why would? - why?"
"Well, this movie lacks the obvious eye candy that really made the Lord of the Rings trilogy a success."
"Are you saying we need to cater to thirsty people to make money?"
"That certainly seems to be the case."
Producer Guy (on phone): "Hey, Orlando, you got a minute?"
Knowing Legolas would be making a come back was a huge motivator in how much Hobbit movie stuff I bought, not gonna lie 🤣
"But what would Legolas do in the movie?"
"Well, he'll just *be* there. Maybe do some gravity defying moves and hey - you should get him a lady friend!"
"But shouldn't we focus on the dwarfs?"
"My bad. Make one of the sexy dwarfs part of an interspecies love triangle! Gotta draw that Twilight crowd in."
fr the only good parts of the hobbit movies are with the lord of the rings characters haha
@@Ryan-xh7pe sooooo the entire series then? Seeing how Gandalf is one of the main characters of both series…
"it's definitely gonna fill some screen time."
We're done here people, he summed up the whole trilogy with that one.
If I'm remembering it right they took Bilbo along because, in the event that the dragon wasn't gone, it wouldn't recognize the scent of a Hobbit. That would allow him to sneak inside and the dragon wouldn't immediately be on guard compared to if it smelled a Dwarf
Hobbits are also remarkably good at stealth, even compared to dwarves, and Gandalf had always had some idea that hobbits needed to be involved in the final defeat of Sauron in some way, so bringing Bilbo along on an adventure was the first step in a long plan to make hobbits as a whole more adventurous.
Gandalf probably had some premonition that they would need a burglar with some moral sense, rather than a more mercenary personality you would likely get with a professional.
I think that's the explanation in the book, but is it in the movie?
@@hagros93 I believe they do address both the stealth and smell aspects. The other points I’m less sure of.
The group needed a thief. Gandalf told the dwarfs Bilbo was a thief.
I’m not used to not being able to binge watch these. Seeing only one isn’t enough...
That's what the studio executives said about the hobbit before stretching it into a trilogy :(
Dude. Ryan has developed a cocaine addiction because of people like you (us). Let a man sleep once in a while!
@Joseph Douek surprisingly yes. More than once actually.
I often times gather round with my friends as we drink and smoke a couple of phatt ones we binge watch them.
Never gets old. This guy is a genius.
Somehow underrated in terms of popularity.
You'd also think this kind of shtick will get old, but it's just pure gold.
I'm gonna need you to get all the way off Ryan's back for not being able to binge anymore
@@JackDManheim I was highlighting how awesome it is, not complaining about anything, the actual opposite.
And then Little Aragorn he's so mad that he attacks Azog and he just gets his but kicked.
Then Bilbo does a back flip, snaps the bad guys neck and saves the day.
Personally, I love that the “wow wow wow” has grown over time, to an average of six or seven “wows” per use. Cracks me up every time.
Oh, keeping track of the wows is tight!
2032: “So you have a movie for me?” - “Yes Sir I do.” - “Oh, wow wow … [this goes on for some time] Wow.” End.
Some of those wows are so perfectly timed too.
Producer Ryan: "Made with CGI?"
Writer Ryan: "Offensively so!"
Yup. Accurate.
@@Don-Scrima in that HDFR it was excruciating
Wow wow wow
I'm still convinced Pitch Meeting was used to promote Screen Rant's articles but accidentally became widely more popular than Screen Rant itself.
There should be a Pitch Meeting pitching Pitch Meeting as a way to promote Screen Rant articles.
I think he already did that as the 100th one they released? Minus the part about the articles, perhaps.
The Hobbit: Several Unexpected Diversions from the Plot.
That's so accurate it hurts😂😂😂
How many characters not encountered until LOTR appear in this first installment alone. Apparently there is a female character and romance for Thorin in the next two films?
Just like the book.
(first book) where did THAT come from...? ( :
@@android584 Kili, not Thorin. They created an elven Mary Sue whose sole purpose is to fall in love with him, not really caring all that much that he's a dwarf and their races are supposed to hate each other, thus completely destroying the major significance of Legolas and Gimli's friendship later. And of course Legolas himself also swoons over her but since Thranduil deems her a 'lowly Silvan elf' obviously she is not suitable for him despite being such an amazing fighter, being SO AHEAD OF HER TIME since she argues that the whole dwarven/elven thing isn't helping either of their races and they should aid the dwarves in their quest, being a captain of the guard etc etc etc.
I despise her with every atom of my being :)
Sadly, this is entirely accurate. For over ten years I've watched the LOTR extended edition trilogy back to back to back once a year. I've watched the Hobbit movies once each. Take that for what you will.
Exact same situation here. They are just so.... Meh
That you have an obssesion.
@@fightingmedialounge519 What obsession?
The Hobbit movies are just as good as LotR, and sometimes better. (Shrug.)
Take from that what you will.
Same as me too
LOTR: three movies that skipped over Tom Bombadil and Saruman in the Shire
The Hobbit: LITERAL RABBIT SLEIGH
I am currently reading the books and I am king if disappointed they skipped over tom bombadil
@@theaveragejoe7966 He also plays an important role in world building. Though for the movie I get why they cut him. Sure it would explain why merry could hurt the witch king down the line. And he is mentioned at the council. But cinematically, it might have been thirty minutes of content that was not conducive to the story in Jackson's eyes.
“.....possibly Sarah Palin.”
Killing me.
She was the one that used an AR-15
@@markuhler2664 Sarah Palin: "Aren't you going to search me? I could have anything down my trousers"
Aka the Karen before that became a meme
Dat lol of mine. Well played Ryan, you're good.
Just wait until mama bear meets shape-shifter bear!
Poor Bilbo. And he was just hired to work at a paper distribution office in England.
And right after his house was demolished for an interstellar bypass.
I thought he was a CIA agent?
And then he started drinking beer with his childhood friends before turning into an alien robot.
He did buy a flat with his friend, pretending they are in a relationship.
Don’t forget the zombie apocalypse with his kid.
Wow, this movie was 8 years ago? Almost time to remake it!
Actually not a bad idea .....
Only if they fix it
Or just re-edited it in just one 3 hours movie...
@@ExtremeMadnessX nah we want a new one
Surprised they haven't turned the Silmarrion into like 10 movies already.
"The Hobbit" would have worked if the studio could've reigned in their greed enough to have it be just one really long movie or two short-ish ones.
I'd have preferred *one* really long film. But then again I'm someone who wishes the ROTK extended edition was even longer, so maybe my opinion is warped! 😂
Two 2-hour films that can be cut into 1 4 hour film.
I mean, there is a lot that goes in the book, so one movie could've been iffy. Two 2-hour movies would've been perfect.
two regular length movies would have been so good imo
My ideal Hobbit movie would be directed more like a road movie, rather than an epic. When trying to compete with LOTR, the Hobbit can only ever fall short - but as a road movie of hapless travellers getting in WAY over their heads, it has huge potential.
I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back about how much I love these Screen Rant pitch meetings. Keep it up guys
Guy. Just one guy.
Can't believe you missed "little gaps that bilbo squeezes through in a cave that make his buttons come off are *TIGHT*
Woopsie!
Wowowowow...wow :D
I'm gonna need you to get all up off my back about it.
I would shorten it to
"Ooh! Little gaps are TIGHT!"
"Yes sir, they are!"
Wowwowwowwowwow
Although that is a horrifying idea that we will probably do some day....
Now we know it will happen..
😅
Please tell me he made that up for the video and that it isn't from some article somewhere.
Hyperrunner 😂
Hot take but, honestly i feel like Zac Efron could probably do it. Hes a great actor
Me at my wedding:
-So, do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife?
-Yes sir, I do
Saying I do is tight! 😁😁
@@Charmer4856 Wow wow wow wow
- I don't know.
@@TheFaquarel Priest: Fair enough!
Ye ye ye
Do Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief Pitch Meeting
I thought we didn't acknowledge that movie 😶
@@clairebear1975 true but he could rip it apart and that would be fun.
So you have a movie adaptation for me?
Yessir I do! It's a kids series called Percy Jackson and it's kind of a big deal.
Wow, I'm really interested in seeing how you adapt the book!
No.
What?
There's a character named Annabeth who is described as being 17 with "honey blonde" hair, so we're going to cast an actress with black hair that looks like she's in her early 30's.
@@HariSeldon913 12*. she became 17 at the end of the books, but during the events of the lighting thief she was around 12 maybe 13 years old at most.
I thought it was going to be, "We can stretch this book into 2 movies!"
"Better make it 3!"
Because that's what actually happened.
3 super long movies at that. Why not 3 tight 90min films...oh wait it's peter jackson.
@@claymonster22 Was under the impression that Peter Jackson didn't want to make 3 movies. The studio forced his hand. Am I wrong?
@@sindri1447 not wrong, but he still made them around 2 and a half hours long each.
lol, was about to say that myself.
@@sindri1447 Peter Jackson was also not the original director for this. He had to work with a lot of the crap the previous one had already worked on.
Thorin is nothing like Aragorn, though. Aragorn is a selfless hero. Thorin is a prideful hothead.
True. But they are similar in the way that the movie presents them to the audience.
Thorin is what you get when the Hero King character is Boromir.
@@mjbull5156 That actually seems pretty accurate 😂
Thorin was way better written in the books. I felt really bad when he died (in the books)
@@sahaf4730 Book. Singular.
“They’re gonna be brought in front of the scrotum king.”
“Wut?”
“Sorry, the goblin king.”
We got David Bowie for this?
And Jennifer Connelly ☺
Im glad i wasnt the only one who thought this
SCROTUM BEAAARD
He sits on the goblin throne
I just clicked on a playlist of these, not sure what to expect. This is great. I'm on my 4th so far and at this point I'm anticipating the "sounds like it might be hard"..."bearly an inconvenience" moment.
I sometimes forget that Ryan is talking to himself.. Give this man a raise!!
He’s the reason I subscribed to this channel
Sometimes its scary how close to reality the pitch meetings can get, that whole squeezing franchises killed me.
😆
Zack efrom as eragon
@@howmuchbeforechamp I am having chills and goose bumps...
I still remember seeing that dreadful movie years ago
Squeezing franchises is TIGHT
SQUEEEEEZE until the franchise is no more
@@howmuchbeforechamp Aragorn
But hey, they could do Zac Efron as Eragon too while they're at it.
I saw itttt, now I need itttt. Do Starship Troopers!
"Do you have a movie pitch for me today?"
"Well, I thought we could adapt this one book by Robert Heinlein. You know, that one everyone in Aliens read?"
"Really? What's it about?"
"I don't know. I dropped it five pages in."
"Oh wowowowowow!"
One pitch to rule them all
One pitch to fund them
One pitch to sell them all, and in the darkness make them
In the land of Hollywood, where the bad scripts lie.
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Yyyyeeeesssss!!!!
The journey is, super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
@@knockout9011 One can just simply walk into Mordor, super easy, barely an inconvenience
The Hobbit was my favorite book in childhood. I was so excited to see it in theaters following the LotR...The disappoint haunts me to this day
How much would it cost to get an “Iron Sky” pitch? Maybe for Holloween? There has never been a more batshit crazy movie
Given that they started making these films with an unfinished script and not much planning, I was hoping to finally hear:
“So, you have a movie for me?”
“No, sir, I don’t!”
Last time that happened the Writer and the Producer had a super awkward time.
They barely even had a director ready. Guillermo Del Toro was originally supposed to direct it, but since he decided to leave, they got Peter Jackson in.
Instead of adapting to the circumstances and give him more pre-production time, they sticked to the deadline and gave him only 3-4 months until full production.
Hence, why we see so much CGI in the finished product.
because I was anticipating the hobbit trilogy's pitch meetings, I actually felt a jolt of joy upon seeing the notification.
I highly appreciate the series, and I bow to you.
“So are they gonna have fun personalities?”
“Fun what?”
"I don't know. Fair enough"
"Super easy, barely an inconvenience"
"I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that"
They're the running gags and I love it whenever they're said
Keep in mind that Tolkien's books were inspired by his WWI trauma... and LOTR movies did bypass a LOT of that subtext and even the sad return to the Shire by the end of the books where the Shire was really Orc-ish in how the Hobbits became. Blibo was actually blessed in going to the place the Elves were leaving to.
Just imagine how differently the adventure would have gone, if Arthur Den--- I mean Bilbo Baggins remembered his towel.
I don’t get it
@@amegam4705 it's a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference. The actor is Arthur Dent in the movie, and the acting he does is near the same as he did with Bilbo.
@@RikuMasamune Yes, as many liberties as that film, ah, took.
But yes, any cool frood should ALWAYS know where his towel is...
@@chrissonofpear1384 Ha! "Took". I see what you did there. ;)
@@silversamurai0267 Ooh, actually, kind of an accident, that...
"Although that is a horrifying idea that we'll PROBABLY do someday"....
LMAO! Hollywood, amiright?
“Not the dislike it’s a bad button” is my favorite thing ever now
322 people didn’t get that far 😂🤦♂️
New catchphrase!
I remember going to the theater, not knowing this movie was just the first of a trilogy. I had read the book, so an hour and a half in, I was like, "Damn! There's a lot of story left. They better pick up the pace."
That “wow wow wow wow wow” makes me laugh every time and I’ve watched a bunch of these. You are a comedic genius sir.
Writer Guy: "They're also going to get captured by some goblins..."
Producer Guy: "Made with CGI?"
Writer Guy: "Oh, offensively so!"
Me: "Nailed it."
and then a 45 min idiotic CGI chase/sled/escape scene so the audience can take a nap (as I did)
"Why didn't the eagles drop them off right at their destination?"
"So the second movie can happen, silly!"
"Very nice."
Eagles were like "We need you to get AAAAALL the way off our backs."
It's the old: Take the eagles to Mt. Doom controversy all over again.
the eagles drop them off super far from their destination lol
@@inarencommander4663 it's not even a controversy it's dumbasses not realizing the eagles would've been either corrupted by the ring or they would've been killed by the thousands of orcs guarding Mordor
The orcs has a lot of guard towers around Mount Doom, so the eagles wouldn't have made it.
05:13 I was expecting the "producer" to angrily say: "don't say eagles!" Then the "writer" stumble for a while with a guilty face,but ultimately saying: "do you have a better solution to my writer's block?" And ,finally, "producer" saying: "eagles it is,then!"
I was expecting “Eagles? Again?”
“Well, technically this is first, so i’m gonna need you to get ALLLL the way off my back about it!”
"That's funny."
"... for like 40 minutes something"
"oh my God!" :D
yep exactly the point where I turned the movie off.
Did u ever watch it?
@@jakelabowski nope.
@@solokom I just skipped few parts by fast forwarding them. They were just boring.
It really upsets me that the story was mostly fine but was visualised as more sombre than lotr. The Hobbit was a kids book and lotr was an adult series
This pitch meeting has no resolution 😁
Also please make a Pirates of the Caribbean Pitch meeting.
Pirates first trilogy are my all time favourite movies (2 is my favourite)
When this country starts depressing me this is where I come to “Pitch Meeting” Thanks Ryan
What country do you live in?
Corporate States of America
Sad thing is... the first one is the good one of that trilogy...
I think the Smaug scenes in the second movie were the best parts of the trilogy but I do agree the first was probably the best overall movies.
I enjoy the second movie the most, personally. Mostly because Smaug is absolutely awesome, but I also enjoy the Dol Guldur bits, and Mirkwood. Not a fan of the Laketown stuff, though
@@madspet9106 Yeah Smaug is great, but I do feel they cheapened him a little with the whole slapsticky cat-and-mouse scene where he's chasing the dwarves through the mountain (not in the books ofc) - it made him seem incompetent and clumsy. Smaug & Bilbo scenes were awesome though. Also the Legolas & Tauriel scenes are way too over-the-top for me; I am not against his inclusion, but he got too much screen time at the expense of original characters (who were actually in the book) like Beorn and the dwarves.
Someone made a Tolkien Cut of just the scenes in the book. Only 4 hours apparently.
@@annedavis3340 I'm surprised it's even that long, tbh. The cartoon's only an hour and a half.
I love how PJ resurrected Azog even though a note in the book says Azog was killed during the same battle he lost his arm and his son was actually fighting during the Battle of the Five Armies.
I’m such a big lotr fan but have just not been able to watch these movies since I saw what they looked like. I’m shocked because it was incredible what they did with practical effects and locations… (it sounds from here) each main character being extremely memorable… I can’t do it, that first trilogy means so much.
Tiny Arargorn!! 😂
More like 5/8ths size kind of like when you don't want a full Aragorn but more that just half .
Yeah, Thorin being tiny Aragorn makes no sense - he is supposed to be much older (including in appearance) than the other dwarves and a little less heroic. His youthfulness in this is a bit of a plot hole.
@@Tlevids The Ring movies did the same thing to Frodo. In the books Frodo was much older. In the movie, he looks like a teen.
@@raydunakin Agreed, I prefer the older and wiser book Frodo - his relationship with Sam and his position as Gollum's master makes more sense in the book as a result.
Also, the massive popularity of Gandalf among readers and viewers shows that badass older characters can be just as, if not often more, beloved than younger characters so I don't always get this need to make certain characters younger. We already had brave younger characters in the book like Fili and Kili who sacrifice themselves protecting their uncle in battle.
These "Pitch Meetings" are the only reason im subscribed to the channel. Funny stuff!
I don't even subscribe, the algorithm knows I watch all the pitch meetings so it always comes up in recommended, I don't even know what else this channel does
First what?! Unsubscribing immediately!
@@bobxyzp Can confirm. I subscribed to Ryan George's personnal channel, and then I just watch Pitch Meetings everytime they pop on my feed, and they pop. You truly don't need Screen Rant.
Yeah I do the same as first. I get these popping up within a couple hours of upload.
siuaiseo nice! I’m sick of my subscription feed being clogged up with theories on the mcu.
Producer: Feels like it's gonna be tough to connect with the dwarves emotionally
Writer: Most definitely
...that is not the reply I expected to hear
That's what made it kinda beautiful
I had to pause the video at this point. XD
No its going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
The original trilogy is so close to my heart that I literally watch at least one of them a week. They were done with such care no matter what they had to cut or add. I've seen these 3 Hobbit movies 1 time and that was more than enough for a lifetime. Awesome review, almost exactly how I reacted upon watching them 😂
dude made the phrase "it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience" a classic line
He made it a line period. Which happened to be an instant classic.
As much as the Frodo Cameo was unnecessary I kinda liked it because he did live with Bilbo so it makes sense he’d be walking around and eventually pass by a camera or 2
If Frodo had even been born yet, he would have been a child.
It only makes sense if you are named Peter Jackson and you are getting paid to do it.
@@joshua43214 the cameo was before Bilbo's flashback
@@oriitsemisan What's your point?
Bilbo is 50 in the hobbit, and turns 111 in LoTR, when Frodo turns 33 at the Party. 17 years pass before Frodo and Sam leave Hobbiton.
Frodo is not a part of the Hobbit, any more than Legolas is. Elves, and Dwarves do not have unrequited love in the Hobbit, any more than Arwen considered taking a ship from the Gray Harbor in LoTR.
The LoTR was a mess, the Hobbit was just crap.
😂😂😂
Whatever the detractors say, at least we got to see the same actors reprising their roles. Can't imagine any other actors playing Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond.
RIP Old Bilbo
True, but I don’t think Galadriel was in The Hobbit book.
@@TokyoBlue587 No, he wasn't.
@@HighWideandHandsome nor Legolas, tauriel, or azog. They spent at least a week with beorn, who played a greater roll in the book, and who did not look so gosh darn ridiculous. There was less hatred towards the elves. There was no unobrow guy. Bard was captain of the guard/ archers, not some disgraced boatman. Rankin bass did a far better job of making The Hobbit than this trilogy did. Though even that version had to cut content.
"That is a horrifying idea- that we'll probably do someday!" Somehow, Pitch Meeting managed to sum up my dad's personal family goals in just one sentence. Kudos.
This is just fantastic. Just discovered you man. Subbed.
Zac Effron as Aragorn made me howl :DD
I really hope Screen Rant pays for massage services since Ryan carries this whole channel on his back.
I hope they pay for his back surgeries
I thought he said it was super easy barely an inconvenience.
Ryan carrying the whole channel in his back is tight!!
Now you have to the the rest of the Hobbit trilogy pitch meetings:p
What can you say about The Battle of Five Armies though? It is just fighting, fighting, fighting and more fighting.
@@flynnthorington Well, there's your joke right there.
"...scrotum king."
"what's that?"
"goblin king..."
this had me laughing so bad. Lmao
I just watched this 5 days ago... perfect timing barely an inconvenience
For those who don't know, the "what do I have in my pocket" riddle only worked because of how old and sheltered gollum was. It was explained as gollum has been alone in the cave for such a long time that the last he'd actually been around civilization "what do I have in my pocket" was a legitimate riddle.
He's tiny Aragorn 🤣
That goblin escape scene was so disappointing. That scene in the book is hillarious
Doing a prequel trilogy off source material ten years later is *TIGHT* !
Don't mind me, just commenting so that the all powerful youtube algorithm reccomends you. Hail the algorithm!
All hail the algorithm! All hail the Glow Clowd!
all hail!
algorithms are tight.
I've said it once. Imma say it again. "Ninja Assassin." This movie needs the magic of Pitch Meeting directed in it general vicinity.
Just told somebody today to get ALL the way off my back lol and it was FANTASTIC 👌
Everyone looks like dwarves for the dwarves except for Fili, Kili and Thorin. They are the most handsome dwarves ever. Probably because they're the only one who die of the main cast.
What about Spoiler warnings?
I'm personally a fan of the idea that the different races have vastly different beauty standards and to dwarves, they are not attractive at all.
Same with Hobbits, to them, Sam is the most attractive one because he's the biggest. Frodo would maybe be considered pretty by elf standards, and Thorin looks great through human eyes, but to dwarves? Maybe to them, Dwalin is the hottest.
@@baguettegott3409 Exactly.
@@baguettegott3409 🔥
It's even sadder, to think that Tolkien based those who die off of his best friends that died during WWI.😭😭😭😭
Which Pitch Meeting needs to do the movie Tolkien!!!!
Also can't watch Tolkien without crying each time they mention that all but one friend died.
Completely off topic... but in Tolkien I'm not the only one to catch that the guy who pulls him to safety mentioning "I'm Sam" is the movie's nod to Sam of the next book carrying Frodo and the ring for a short time, right????
I can’t wait for Screen Rant Pitch Meeting for the new DUNE!
I must not fear, fear is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Be waiting a while
He'll probably do old Dune first. That's a really bad movie, so the Pitch Meeting should be TIGHT!
157 people mistakenly clicked the Bad Button.
Now they are 162
All CGI goblins.
227 as of now, certainly goblins.
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I love every single one of these. I've seen them all at least twice.
I recommend watching this Pitch Meeting with a high frame rate. Super clear picture, barely a headache.
"Yeah for like 40 minutes" "Oh God?!" Hahahah
*Ryan:* Making countless terrible unnecessarily dramatic movies just so people can buy them and give terrible ratings is is super easy barely an inconvenience
*Other Ryan:* But shouldn’t we make the movies good?
*Ryan:* Nah just give the characters weird names and its all just gonna kinda work
*Other Ryan:* Wowow weird names are TIGHT
Making money is tight! Like really tight. Like a vice tight!
Wow tight.
Hope he doesn't do "Cuties". Anything in that one mixed with 'tight' is going to get him a visit from Chris Hansen.
*Screenwriter Guy and Producer Guy.
@@markuhler2664 yee yee to that
"He`s tiny Aragorn" hahahha
It was published on my birthday. Thanks for my present Ryan!!!!
I'm waiting for a Rocky Horror Picture Show pitch meeting. I NEED ITTTT
Make it the made for tv remake. That was deserves the roasting.
(Seriously, the acting is middle school play quality, they did the Time Warp wrong, and they took Magenta's name too literally with that wig.)
I would love to see the studio executive's reactions to that one :-).
Don’t forget to put your hands on your hips
The Rocky horror show is tight.
Pitch meeting for Big Trouble in Little China
Remember how good the goblins and orcs of Moria looked in the fellowship. Somehow the orcs and goblins look so god awful in this. Including azog
That's because all or most of the LotR ones were suits and masks, wearing real Weta armor. These were just CGI. Uncanny valley much? In all fairness, had these been in a videogame, they would have been terrific graphics. But not for a movie. Not for Middle-Earth.
@@stardancer119 haha for real! Perfect for a game but horrible for a movie. Did you ever see the original design/costume for azog? It was used instead as that side orc who is taunting gandalf in the cage
@@coreyw5981 Yes! To have quality design wasted like that, just hurts! And the fact (if I recall correctly) that Bolg actually *was* a suit and mask, and they had to CGI over him because *he looked too realistic next to all the CGI orcs*...🙈
‘Pitch Meetings’ - easily the best thing on TH-cam. I thought it would be difficult to keep me clicking on them but in fact it was super easy...
Thorin Oakenshield, what's his deal? He is a tiny Aragorn. This made me laugh so hard lol
Why’s bilbo needed literally just because Gandalf says he is
Read the book
@@maestrotitano It's literally more helpful for obnoxious people like you to not say anything at all. You literally felt the need to go "I know but I'm not going to tell you."? Pathetic.
Evan Taylor several reasons.
1. He viewed hobbits as more good natured than dwarves, men, elves, etc.
2. He had already met Bilbo and saw him as more adventurous than the other hobbits.
3. Bilbo had no close relatives or family members.
Wandering Minstrel ikr, damn
Fox Master thank you
He’s tiny Aragorn lmao
You seriously need to do the other two hobbit movies now!
Like he wasn't going to?
@@guyjperson yeah but it might have taken him a while to get to them if nobody commented that they were interested in seeing them so I figured I should comment he has to do the other ones because you know we don't want to wait for a long time to see him do the others
To be fair Tolkien himself didn’t explain why Bilbo was needed.
So the book can happen
Bilbo really wasn't needed. He was mostly hired because Gandalf went 'this guy could use an adventure' and then setting him up to get hired for an adventure. Also, it's a reference to Beowulf, but that's another story
"But Hobbits are naturally unobtrusive. Inconspicuous. They possess from the first the art of disappearing swiftly and silently, when large folk whom they do not wish to meet come blundering by; and this art they have developed until to Men it may seem magical." He has a family history of adventurous hobbits.
That's not true. In the book Gandalf stated to Thorin that they might want Bilbo because a Hobbit scent would be different to Smaug than a Dwarf scent. That in addition to Hobbits being natural burglars.
@@cernunnos4151 True & Bilbo was pretty much the only hobbit who wanted to see the world. So it actually makes sense imo.
“He’s from the Lord of the Rings movies” 😂 this video made me laugh so hard. Thank you.
5:00 "And the goblins in the book had this mocking cheerful song about wingless birds in a tree that really added to the spirit of the scenes that we are going to completely remove and recycling the Ring Wraith theme for no good reason."
I just realised that every episode ends with an article.... that they wrote themselfs😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A day may come when unnecessary prequels aren't made, but this is not this day.
Today we prequel! Men of the Hollywood!
This day we *CRY*
The Hobbit is not a prequel.
@@jesperbonde571 The Hobbit the book is not a prequel, but I think the movies could fit that definition.
@@Aeronor2001 Exactly
FINALLY. WAITING FOR PART 2
I'd honestly forgotten about half this stuff before you brought it up again. That really shows how memorable those movies were.