Queen Yharnam is a victim of Bloodborne's deepest horror || Bloodborne Analysis
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Boss Designs of Bloodborne: Queen Yharnam th-cam.com/video/F97CO1suB9w/w-d-xo.html
Wait, how is this comment from a week ago if the short was uploaded just now?
Yeah, thanks, now I have MORE reason to NOT play this depression inducing game.
Just watching Vaatividya's lore videos about the game was already depressing enough (but informative and entertaining).
Thank you for giving us information about the game.
Bloodborne has 2 things:
Incomprehensible horrors
And way-too-comprihensible horrors
"sadly, these horrors are well within my comprehension"
"She was blessed, whether she liked it or not" sums up Bloodborne pretty well
Why does everything that has 'whether __ liked it or not'
Instantly make me remember that zavala quote from d2
@@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305 as a person with a brother who played Destiny 2 for a while:
WHETHER WE LIKED IT OR NOT, WE HAVE ENTERED INTO WAR WITH THE CABAL
@Preston Murdock And Christianity.
Sounds like every conservative debating abortion ever
Sums up womanhood pretty well :(
queen yharnam's child was cut from her.
but mergo, child of formless oedon, has no need for a body. he exists as voice and dream and blood.
which is why when you kill her in the chalice dungeons, you get a baby's corpse, wrapped in hardened blood, as your reward.
they took her child from her, _but only the parts they wanted._ the rest, they left to fester and calcify.
The umbilical cord, maybe...
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT IT COULDN'T GET WORSE.
The blade and weeping wound also imply she could've tried (and failed, possibly died from) removing what was left of the baby herself.
Oh this is getting worse and worse but she was their queen couldnt she command them to not cut her and literally gut her out?
Holy fuck
"She was forced to have it, and then forced to lose it", this is the level of melodrama/tragic story that can actualy make you cry for a character, because said drama was very much based on what could and has happened to women out there in real life.
Unfortunately, a lot of fictions are rooted in reality...
I feel like this will becomemore prominent in reality with teenage pregnancy and them not being able to say no about it :( i fear for the mothers who don't have a say on their bodies to give birth or not
Fr, it’s a major plotpoint in The Handmaid’s tale. Absolutely horrifying
@@crowdemon_archives I often find reality is far more horrific than what fiction can conjure up. There is no end to human depravity, and when evil things happen, it's even scarier to know that it was done by another human and not some beast or evil one.
@@pandemonium2618 Poland banned abortion and now not only have abortions increased a great deal, women are now just going to other countries to get the procedure done. It upsets me so much that women have to resort to travelling or, god forbid, an attempt at a DIY abortion.
Corpses have more bodily autonomy than women do in much of the world. No one is forced to donate their organs, blood, resources or anything despite hospitals crying out for them and the endless waiting lists. Often the argument given is "well, abortion is murder!", but what about the countless people unaliving all because people don't donate their organs? The hypocrisy is astounding.
Pregnancy is a point in bodily autonomy, no one is expected or forced to give up their body to host/provide for another life when it comes to unalive (even though unalive bodies don't need those things anymore, but women still do) people, but the rules are always different when it comes to women.
And pregnancy and birthing is PERMANENT. Your body will be changed forever, many women end up with chronic problems due to pregnancy and that doesn't include how more women are unaliving on the birthing bed because of how abysmal healthcare is becoming. And there's no care for pre and post pregnant women, the 6 weeks drs check up isn't a check up. They don't investigate how well your body is recovering, they usually just offer birth control and that's it. Nothing else. Physiotherapy is proving to be extremely beneficial for women who have just given birth and will help avoid many damages to the body that being pregnant gives. But that isn't provided. But someone who had a slight surgery on their wrist gets physiotherapy, something not even remotely comparable to the trauma and damage that comes with giving birth and pregnancy, but women don't get it.
It feels like so many people who run the world simultaneously want women to have as many babies as possible but actively punish women for having them. A new study revealed that a woman having a child is almost guaranteed to financially ruin her even if she has support.
Ultimately, banning abortions are just going to provide women with less incentive to risk having a family and children, and now conservatives are going after no fault divorce to seemingly trap women into marriage. But if they succeed, I feel like most younger women will just throw the idea of marriage entirely out the window. Why should they risk anything? Supposedly there's already a male epidemic of loneliness because more women won't drop lessen their standards (which is usually the bare minimum but it feels like a lot of men can't even meet that), and statistically single and childless women are the happiest demographic, so all they're doing is ensuring people become more isolated and less likely to have children.
Bloodborne is great at having these horrifically tragic characters that make you hunt the beasts down with a new zeal but simultaneously make you feel disgust that their situation was allowed to happen in the name of eldritch monstrosities.
Yeah, and honestly its really nice to have some good lovecraftian horror without all of the themes of xenophobia that Lovecraft himself used to drive home his political messaging. Bloodborne is a great example that we can have cosmic horror while still conveying a message of empathy towards the victims of the abuse of the powerful, and act with a sense of justice to right those wrongs.
@@connorthornberg I've always been interested in lovecraft's work, but only read up on it via the wikis as I don't feel like actually reading his yarn. Do you mind telling me what bloodborne's gameplay is like?
@@farted161 Have you played or seen dark souls? Cuz it's that but more agressive
@@connorthornberg You're mistaken. The xenophobia's still very much there. The fate of Old Yharnam, the hamlet, the village in the woods, the Vilebloods, Yharnamites' hatred of outsiders -- all of it is inspired by some hatred or dehumanization.
It's all the more tragic when considering that the "Great" Old Ones aren't really what we think of them. We think of them as some hyper-enlightened ultra-beings, but in game, all of them look like sad, deformed, frankly mentally stunted abominations and not like some gigachad hyper-advanced race. And the scholars see that and think - yes, that, I want that.
They were trying with dragons in Dark Souls before they could get to the Realy scary stuff. Motherhood.
If you think about some experiments that were dome during war or how mental health issues were "cured " not so long ago this game is not so bad
@@DiabloTommaso isn't there also like a super fucked up asylum in bloodborne that shows signs of those kinds of things
I dunno man dragons are pretty scary
@@swag_tortoise The Research Hall in the DLC, holy shit is that place disturbing.
@@swag_tortoise yes.
The most horrifying thing i can realistically imagine.
Mestruation. *Shivers*
A woman. *Shivers*
Oy! Who let Andrew Tate into my comments section??
@@TBSkyenShorts personally, i was going more for the pain of childbirth. Especially against your will. That sounds like the most awful realistic horror i can think of.
@@TBSkyenShorts i found out its location with the help of a Jerry's pizza box you left in one of your videos
Then i simply let myself in using the power of my sweet dance moves like any good man wouldve done
No, the worst part is that the baby WASN’T needed for a ritual. She was chosen to have that child, and while she wasn’t entirely consensual about it, she still accepted it as, for the Pthumerians, giving birth to a Great One is a tremendous honor. Only, the other Pthumerians, driven mad by wanting some Great One blood, stole her Great One child from her womb and ate it. It wasn’t a ritual. It was theft
I believe it was only then that the beast curse took effect. As a form of ironic punishment for those who so craved the blood of great ones.
@@zjuraeventide8949 I always though the curse had more to do with the DLC than the chalice dungeons but I guess that's a valid theory too
yeah dont think that because she ended up accepting it it makes it ok or that she had consent. Its a coping mechanism for the abuse she went through. If you observe rape victims who become pregnant and they live in an area where abortion is banned, they will often do this because the mental stressors would drive you insane. I mean think about it, its a parasite living inside you, taking from you and causing you pain, and its the direct result and constant reminder of the physical assault you endured, every day you have to relive the memory that kid is inside you. Pretending that you are ok with it and trying to see the positive is easier (and more socially acceptable), essentially gaslighting yourself, than going going crazy and trying to cut the baby out with a pair of blunt scissors and then dying from blood loss.
@@OwnyOne There's actually 2. The citizens who use the blood are cursed with beasthood and the DLC show the hunter's curse where those who are drunk with blood get sent to Hunter's Nightmare upon death.
You wouldn't steal a car 🎶
Love when media isn't afraid to portray pregnancy in a dark way
The fact that Yharnam bows to you when you check up on her after defeating Mergo’s Wet Nurse is so sweet and sad, she’s thanking you for ending this nightmare and releasing her child and her from their respective shackles.
Thats so horrifyingly sad, and worst part is that you cant even take solace in the idea that "its just a story" because this type of stuff (forced pregnancy and such) happens so often in the real world
@@draw2death421 Theres a million and one reasons to assault/kill somebody with varying levels of what can be considered "right". Theres only ONE reason for the above mentioned type of abuse and it does NOT even come close to justifying it. But hey you can take solace in the fact that idiotic comments like yours will be used to strawman other people 👏
@@gingko_maple I don't like to randomly insert shits but "people care"? Yeah... you might be living in a good and healthy echo chamber but still an echo chamber
Like in Texas in...2023.
that part is what scares the shït out of me as an afab person
@@adriannalockhart9639 yes. Like that
"She finally comes to know rest"
That is until the Hunter finds her in a Chalice Dungeon and rips her apart.
I prefer to think of it as she's been trapped in the dungeon by the Moon Presence, not allowed to rest peacefully until we kill her.
when I saw her I thought she was a mini boss and I killed her :|
I just like murder. Children, men, women, as long as I get to kill stuff, all is good.
We give her final rest.
Shhhhh ... we don't talk about the chalice dungeons. They don't exist 😂
Its depressing how even though shes a video game character, her story and symbolism is very real and relatable to many women around the world.
It really is :(
Yep, imagine people not knowing this happens. And it happens in every country. In some its more visible than others. Even the most progressive countries have forced pregnancies happening in front of their doors. Or hidden behind curtains. I live in germany and have heard of forced marriages and pregnancies more than I'd have loved to. It's mostly due to different traditions and cultures or the social integration. In the US for example it's a law. Making abortions illegal means women and girls will be forced to stay pregnant and carry out an unwanted child. Hence a forced pregnancy. Bloodborne is such a cool game that it made us all think about this topic. Sadly it's not gonna change much. 💁🏻♀️ The control over people's (even men's) choices and bodies makes too much profit for laws and rules to ever really change.
U forget it plays a similar story to the woman of history. Husbands would force themselves on their wives plus have fun with his mistress and was told to accept it, then woman's suffrage happened eventually so we could vote. But this game has the horrors of some of the woman of the history as to why woman fought for their rights in the USA. Tragic, and I hope the woman who went through similar horror abuse can rest in peace.
Sad some woman have to still be a subject of abuse and be seen as property to this day.
Some video games and animes have way more realism to what history was like, than what they teach in schools. They say it rots your brain out. Depends on the content.
@@IGotNoJam What do you mean by "even men's choices and bodies", exactly? 💀 Men have way more rights regarding their bodies and choices than women have ever had, and still do. It is literally men making these laws, more so to help men than women. So I am really curious as to what you meant by that.
Yep, its good writing
One of the reoccurring nightmares I have is being pregnant against my will. I love children and I want children someday but being forced to bear them before I decide to is absolutely terrifying
Your profile picture fits this comment perfectly
@@69Satan69I hate and love you so much for this
I’ve had this recurring nightmare too, the idea of a forced pregnancy is horrifying
I'm a mother who's been through two c-sections. Pregnancy is awful for me and I'm never doing it again. The horror of birth is very real. Every woman who bears a child faces the Jackal faced Death in the birthing room.
I'm so sorry😢
Yeah, pregnancy can be scary.
@@weissrose7165 when i tell my mom about how pregnancy is scary for me because i have pre-diabetic, my mom just say 'no, pregnancy is beautiful, you say that because you never pregnant' then when i have bad cramp in my period time my mom just 'i think you will have hard childbirth in future'
Like lol
@@nabilllaauria9944 Few things piss me off more than people not just shrugging off the dangers of pregnancy and childbirth BUT ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP. Worse still, using it to minimize and invalidate others.
Like, yeah, I know our brains do what they can to mask it so we're not horrifically traumatized but please don't try and tell me there's no risk involved. It's one of the most dangerous things a human can do and still claims way too many lives now in the modern day.
I was my mother’s first child. She had to have an emergency c-section with me. They didn’t properly numb her, so she felt _everything_ until they got it right; she lost the equivalent amount of blood in a grown man’s entire body. The next pregnancy was my brother; he was nonviable and the only one she didn’t have a c-section for. It still amazes me how she ended up having two more kids after those first two pregnancies… By then she opted to have scheduled c-sections and fortunately both went well.
Basically, pregnancy is absolutely terrifying
Forced motherhood, above everything else in the world, is my biggest fear. Absolutely horrifying. But people don't take me seriously. Even when just talking about not wanting kids.
Same
my parents are pro life...
I was 17, was raped and hurt and they wanted me to have the baby - was a still birth at 7 months and even 21 years later, nothing has changed. - except that my parents no longer have a daughter
@@felic86kaufmann57 I'm sorry to hear that, hope that baby and you are in good hands now
@@felic86kaufmann57i’m so sorry i hope everything is okay now ❤
women are barely ever taken seriously in regards to this it sickens me
A lot of games miss the mark on Eldritch or Cosmos horror by just throwing the most insane creatures or a mishmash of horrible monsters (which don’t get me wrong i have a lot of fun fighting): while missing what originally made cosmic horror what it was
Existentialism and exploration of humanities darkest depths and even what could be out there that we just can’t even processes is where it really gets scary
Heck I can remember being a kid playing earthbound, and not really understanding what Giygas was or represents but being deeply disturbed nonetheless and couldn’t explain what was wrong to my poor mom
This is one of the reasons why I deeply loved the Silent Hill series as a kid. Every sibgle monster has a symbolic meaning and a tie to the characters of the games, being that some can even represent the sexual abuse of a father towards his daughter. It's creepy and it has meaning, which makes it even better.
THIS! You explained perfectly on why I love eldritch and cosmic horror. Without intent or depth, it's easily the most boring thing ever. The physical manifestation of the dread and horror of our lives is what makes the genre so incredible.
Forceful Motherhood is scarier because it can happen to any woman and any young girl.
I’m amazed that bloodborn did that.
I don’t know what’s more sad the fact that she was forced to have a child or the fact that she loved that child so much unconditionally that she only knows peace once that child is freed
The pregnancy motif is probably the most genius thing about Bloodborne
Like I personally find gore of all types artistically interesting but pregnancy still illicits a strong sense of horror and disgust from me which is exactly what you want from Eldritch Horror
I feel like the most effective Eldritch horrow games or bosses tend to delve into the idea of pregnancy, fetuses, miscarriages and abortion: I mean my brain immediately goes back to when I played Earthbound and Giygas, where you’re walking up a birth canal to get to him and the silhouette of a fetus -that’s some OG eldritch nightmare fuel right there
@@ceciliavasey9732 Its funny because as a medical practioner that is used to this stuff, I find it interesting that something that I find natural is horrifying to someone else. I've helped about 4 women gave birth and you get used to it real quick.
@@marcelinauy9037what about experiencing it urself tho
@@marcelinauy9037 Whereas some of us have absolute phobias about pregnancy and birthing. I genuinely cannot disassociate a fetus from a parasite, in my head, for the concept of having something leeching from me for so long (even though they normally leave around nine months) is still heavily disturbing to me. I'd rather elect for sterilization, once my implant has run its course, and look into adoption when I am finally ready for parenthood. I've made it clear with my partner, whom I love dearly and value as my favorite person, that I just am not comfortable with bearing spawn, and we can adopt when we're both ready, some day.
@@marcelinauy9037 it's not the same being a midwife than being pregnant yourself, mind your words next time, you came off as really insensitive
Well the game is literally called BLOODBORNe.
In reference to pathogens carried in blood, and being literally born in blood!!
We love wordplay here
Bloodborne is an existing word, it's "transmitted by blood"
You don’t even have to get rid of the e, borne is another spelling
@@DeathnoteBBit's a different word, it's the perfect of the verb "to bear", so "bloodborne" is an actual word roughly meaning "transmitted via blood"
I don't think a character design ever made me genuinely recoil upon first sight like Queen Yharnam, just...god I saw that open wound and could immediately infer what it means
A game that speaks about the horrors of being born the cursed sex with the "blessed" ability of being an incubator whether we like it or not.
What a smack to the face, because Bloodborne may be made up fantasy, but what was described is a reality that still persists through the modern day.
Man I really want a hysterectomy
saaaaaaame
Yes pls 😞
forced motherhood, one of my worst fears lol.
It is horrifying and sadly to a certain point realistic enough that i have a game plan if it happens to me.
The thing about abortion in my country is, (especially late abortion) that you cannot do it unless the child poses a mental or physical threat to you. Well....if i threaten to stab my stomach and take it out myself if they don't take it out, officially makes it a threat to both things. So by law....they must.
Same. I have nightmares about this occasionally
Sadly she doesn't rest until you find her in the chalice dungeons and take her down.
There is SOMETHING about the battle though, she seems to specifically fight you with the power of blood, more specifically HER blood, as if the fact that her status as the queen has a lot to do with her having the right blood and body to be used in whatever right the God used her for. However, I must question how much of this was outside of her control as part way through she straight up breaks her chains and makes more direct use of her blood all while her baby mergo restrains you with his cries.
In the end, she isn't even capable of death as her consciousness lingers on in her stone remains. This leaves us with nothing but unanswered questions as you actually can't do anything with the stone in the game, its questline was cut with only bits of dialog remaining. So we'll never know how much agency she truly had nor if this was the end she'd envisioned.
The very essence of eldritch horror is fear of the unknown. Just as we'll never comprehend what Cthulu really is we'll never really learn the secrets of Yharnam
Actually, a lore theory I heard was that when our hunter visits the chalice dungeons, what we're actually going to are fixed points of time.
This is why we are able to fight characters that are dead in the waking world and they are still "alive" in the dungeons.
The Yharnam we fight is her in the past and what happens there doesn't change the present unfortunately. The biggest proof of this is that she is pregnant when we fight her. Whether it's her power or actually power she gained from her pregnancy with Mergo is up for debate.
The blood stone is the calcified remains of her child Mergo, not the Queen.
Hmm its almost like forcing woman to bear children is a horrific and dystopian concept...👀
no need for "almost like", because it IS
The breeding farms of the American South made generational wealth from such a horrific practice.
Sadly common sense is not so common
Unfortunately this is a concept that has been done, with evidence even, if it was rumors then I still would be scared but not petrified at the fact that has happened before. I may not be a woman but I definitely don’t want this done to anyone. Not even my worst enemy shall know this pain.
Reality is scarier than fiction.....
Never thought I would see what literally is my worst real life nightmare represented so well in a horror videogame until I played Bloodborne. No wonder this is and will always be a true masterpiece of the genre.
She’s such a eerie striking visual as this white beacon in the nightmare essentially guiding you around. Crazy how much lore every character has in these games
You are one of, if not the only, content creator I’ve seen that can sum up complex metaphors and ideas succinctly within one minute. Well done, awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate that!
"Reality is often stranger and Scarier than any sort of Fiction you've ever read. ''
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this is a small part of why i have a deathly phobia of pregnancy
You also free the son of another god in the DLC, both are women whose children were taken from them. One is a proto-human mother and the other is a literal god of a mother
Lol orphan of kos
Pregnancy, birth, & the like literally terrifies me. So the thought of being forced to have a kid scares the absolute sh!t out of me 😰😰🤮
Bloodborne displaying the REAL scariest thing: being a woman in a world that only wants to use your body
Unfortunately we live in the world like this.
... So... The real world, especially the world that conservatives want??
@@UtLured and it seems to be getting worse again. I see so many self proclaimed "alpha" males insisting they want an 18yr old girl because she'll be most "fertile" 🤢 (even though it's proven women are most fertile from 24) and not "expired" like a 25yr old is to them. You just know if the age of consent was any lower than 18, they would be dating girls as young as possible.
And when I've asked men what their ideal partner is in a woman, they'll usually just describe a slave. We're not human to so many men, just an object to use, show off and produce children with. We don't have desires, fears, hopes, dreams, wants and needs to them, we just exist to serve them. When I see how so much hatred is hurtled towards women both in real life and on the internet, I don't really blame women for giving up on relationships even if there's an epidemic of male loneliness.
And that is why I am getting my uterus removed next year :)
Good luck with the surgery
I’m envious of you, hopefully everything goes well ❤
Pregnancy is truly the scariest thing that can happen to me, as of right now ☠️ Bloodborne didn't help with that fear.
Queen Yharnam. May she rest in peace. That poor woman.
It's horrible and yet that's one of the reasons I love it so much. But hey, I haven't seen much about periods in bloodborne. Where does it get mentioned?
. It’s notable that the most of the special kinds of blood in blood borne are related to women like Iosefka and Arianna and both of those characters are related heavily to pregnancy themes. Menstruation is a less-seen theme but it’s kind of implied in cases like that.
Indeed, like motherhood or unwanted pregnancy, menstruations are not mentioned directly, but interpretation towards it can easily be made. It's a message about violence, and when Fromsoft talks about violence against womanhood, they take Berserk's point of view : abuse, rape, pregnancy, loss of power or enslavement, all the extreme things humanity has done in their insanity. So period here can be interpreted as literally as can be, women bleeding from their wombs.
Mensis!
@@Mordrevious very fair, but that kinda implies the woman shall be used. What I meant is, since blood is so powerful, I just want a cool character using her period magic to be gross and defiant to the gods. Or something along those lines lmao
It is subtextual, and comes through in the obsession with the Moon which is traditionally culturally tied to the menstrual cycle. It comes through in the narrative's emphasis on cycles of blood, and in the naming of things like the School of "Mensis," for example. The word "mensis" means "month" in Latin, and it is derived from old words meaning roughly "to measure the course of the moon." And it is also a word root that specifically relates to the menstrual cycle, (mens-is -> mens-truation - common root "mens.")
And then of course, so much of the game's plot revolves around women and fertility, from Annalise of the Vilebloods to Queen Yharnam to poor Arianna - and even, arguably, creatures like Ebrietas, whose aborted fetuses crawl all over the Orphanage.
Human violence is nothing new, nor is it surprising. What cuts at an existential level, is the intentional lack of kinship society extends towards women, all while demanding it in return 100-fold.
Suffering is to be pitied but never corrected. Attempts to shift control back to women are to be deemed disgustingly lazy or monstrous. What are, in reality, acts of injustice are seen as unchangeable acts of fate, occurring within an expendable human's pre-determined role.
"Women's suffering is pitiable and ugly but oh-so necessary for the greater good," Is a sentiment even our closest family members will readily believe. We're that expendable.
Blood borne does an excellent job exploring the themes of women's suffering, but I really wish it'd lean into the betrayal aspect of it too, since it's a societally fundamental aspect of how womanhood is experienced.
Terrifying imagery, and even more terrifying how it still relates to women all over the world today...
Yes well something this sad/fucked up to us humans is appropriate to include in the story. It really highlights how indifferent & alien these eldritch gods are. They aren't even doing this out of malice for humans. It's simply their way
And we can't forget the humans in the setting who happily did this and arguably worse.
I mean, if they're TRULY apathetic towards humans, why not leave us tf alone.
@@69Satan69 because we're useful to them, that's the whole point of cosmic entities we are useful to them, and before you ask or say "but why are we useful to them?" Well it's simple don't try to understand why that's, again, the whole point of cosmic entities we aren't supposed to know, we typically don't even know, humanity in Bloodborne wouldn't be so messed up if the right scholars didn't decide "you know what would be fun? Talking to the entity that hovers in extradimensional space and feeds us our worst fears nothing will go wrong!"
Thank goodness someone addresses the potential horror of a miraculous conception. Seriously. Just imagine one day you wake up and you were somehow pregnant even though you were a virgin, on birth control, or couldn't get pregnant through any other means. Yes for some this could be great. But for a lot of people- it would be scary and unexpected.
plus, who would believe you? you can tell the truth, that you've never had sex, you're on birth control, hell you can even say you were diagnosed with infertility, but no one will believe you. that's the horrific part for me.
It really messes me up how forced pregnancy and shit like that happen irl, I honestly don't understand how some mfs only see women as baby incubators, and not actual people with emotions, it's so fucked up and sadly a very real thing that happens
don't go on r/badwomensanatomy then, it starts out funny but becomes depressing
Yeah this is a little bit more terrifying given the fact that it seems like every passing day women lose more rights in the United States. Forced pregnancy enforced birth or things that honestly terrified me as a woman. Mostly because I have a medical condition that makes having children dangerous for me as in I could die within the first trimester. I am on birth control and I'm very lucky that I am but at the same time I have to worry about what if that fails. I've been trying to get a hysterectomy but I can't do the fact that I'm too young and I'm not married and every doctor says the exact same fucking thing "what if your futur husband wants children" ignoring the fact that maybe I don't want a husband
I feel this so much. My right arm remains sensitive, after almost a couple years of having an implant to avoid pregnancy, but worth it. I've even spoken with my partner about my absolute fear of parasites and how I cannot disassociate a fetus from a parasite, in my head. So I have strongly been informing every doctor I interact with that once this device is finally removed from me, next year, I am undergoing sterilization.
I also remind folx that adoption is a BIG option, because of how many children get abandoned to the foster system, so there is absolutely no need for my body to bring another unwanted soul into the world. If I finally decided to become a parent, I would go through the steps to actually choose an already existing child to give them a better chance.
I'm a trans man and I've been going through the same thing. I've been asking for a hysterectomy for 6 years and finally found a doctor that would give me one- but only bc I have a softball sized tumor in my uterus.
@@doobiejesus1097 first off I'm sorry that you have a tumor that is terrifying and I hope that your procedure goes well with no complications. I also hope that your transition is going smoothly and that you're safe Wherever You Are. Solidarity my brother solidarity forever
@@Daelyah honestly same and the thing is I work in childcare I work as a paraprofessional in a kindergarten classroom and my class is made up of a lot of kids that have family issues a good chunk of them are in the foster care system we have one or two who are very well off which is the little bit of cognitive dissonance that I really can't stomach. But yeah there's this feeling that if it was up to me I wouldn't have children I just adopt mostly because if I do want a child I wanted to be a child that I know need someone good and will try and be kind and understanding to them and doesn't have to bear the weight of almost possibly killing their mother in utero which knowing my mental health and my inability to keep myself alive even the good times it's very slim that I would ever have children but still
Why do doctors have to ask that question every time a woman wants a hysterectomy?
Especially now that we had our reproductive rights removed, we could at least be allowed to get correct to me without being asked a 100 questions on the spot.
If I recall correctly, the Great One's children aren't lost due to rituals to the Great Ones, it's more that they're always fated to die, and thus they never truly can have children.
iirc the Childhood's Beginning ending basically implies you've become the first successful "baby" Great One ever, raised by the doll in the Hunter's Dream.
@@pukefiend You might be! Or perhaps they will fulfill their destiny and somehow die like the rest. Who knows?
It's all a dream, anyways.
She didn't want it, but still wanted its soul to know peace.
Forced motherhood then forced to lose and see her child suffer for eternity .... This game is so deep
men will have more empathy towards a fictional woman rather than thousands of real women that experienced exactly that.
As a woman with PTSD, autism, and endometriosis bloodborn is an extremely important game to me. It’s a beautifully symbolic game that doesn’t alienate the male audience while covering uncomfortable topics like menstruation and birth but I think topics of despair, melancholy, and hopelessness are also dominant topics and ones that include everyone making this game a masterpiece of bridging genders
What makes it slightly worse is that as you could tell by the blood on Queen Yharnams dress, it's around the womb area, meaning she had a C-Section that was not done cleanly as you can obviously tell, and I can't remember if it was this guy or someone else, but the gods didn't give her time to let the baby fully grow. As soon as the baby grew enough for their plans, they quite literally ripped it out of her.
Imagine the pain of being forced to have a child only to have it ripped away from you
i love her design is obviously inspired by lucy from bram stoker's dracula 1992. the baby, bride and vampirism.
Forcing a woman to either keep or lose a pregnancy is horrible.
It's such a traumatic and both mentally and physically hard experience, that it's important that the woman get to have the biggest voice.
Like sure give them options, but ultimately it should be their choice.
The simple horrific truth of this masterpiece is that everything that happened followed an actuall ""'sexual""" assault done to the queen...It may even be a deliberate choice of events by the devs in order to conceive the message...The true horrors are very real.
Eldritch horror just got too real wtf
The fact she appears as the pseudo final boss of the chalice dungeons always gets me
Only them she seems to know rest...
Except when you decend down the chaises and fight her and oh God what is going on!
Apparently, according to a reply on a different comment, in the chalice dungeons you go back into the past as you delve deeper
The fact that this exact scenario has and is probably still happening in the world right now still is pretty scary and depressing
Fetal abduction might not be common or even happen that often, but the times it does.. I really feel for the mothers
Motherhood should always be a choice, never forced. Saying "Im childfree" should be supported more rather then being questioned or being told "You never know" when we do. Those telling us that "We will change" doesnt know whats happening behind closed doors. Kudos to all the mothers that have had the choice and became a mother when they wanted to
This hits different when your having intense cramps, dirrareia and strong menstruation shitting on the toilet covered with blood
One of the most perfect examples of what reproductive abuse really is & the absolute horrors of it to the audience for male & female audiences.
I thought bloodborne was about one of the worst curses a man can suffer: being british
This actually has impressed me. Game, story, theory or not. Just the idea of it gives a lesson and learning wisdom of a point. … also I love the gown lol
See I can deal with a lot of horror but forced pregnancy, animal abuse and child abuse are on the list of *”No Thank you* I prefer sleeping soundly at night.”
Still, I find it crazy how real life men can sympathize with a virtual womans forced motherhood but can’t sympathize with real life women and instead tell us “well just don’t get pregnant” like we always have a choice.
THIS!!!!
Imagine forcing a woman to have a child the not letting her raise the child tou forced her to have
Imagine? It's happening in multiple red states right now. Women forced to carry wanted but stillborn fetuses rotting inside of them to the point of sepsis. Young girls forced to carry rape babies, almost dying during childbirth, sustaining permanent organ damage and then either being forced to keep it or feed it to an adoption mill.
This imaginary story is less horrifying than reality.
There's an entire industry built around coercing pregnant girls/teens/women into "giving up her baby to a married, worthy couple." A reason given by the Supreme Court of America for overturning Roe v Wade was to increase the supply of healthy, white babies for domestic adoption, it's fucking disgusting.
That's what humans do to cattle all the time
"It's just a game," they said.
*The Game:*
A game about birth... and blood. What to call it though
I really appreciate this commentary speaking clearly about the real meaning of this game. Most explanations I've heard sugar coat it or make it into just a gory senseless mess.
That isn't even the worst part.
The Gods only took the parts they wanted from the infant when they had it cut from her womb, leaving behind a calcified corpse wrapped in hardened blood, which is the reward you receive when you defeat Queen Yharnam.
They essentially had cut her open, took the fetus and butchered it in front of her.
The scariest part is:
1- you can heard her weeping TWICE during the game (the red moon event and on the stairs leading to Mergo). When you conects the dots is when you realize the scary part.
2- the fact you can fight her and she use the blood from herself to attack you. Is even worse when during the fight she looks heavily pregnant and and start to get soaked in more blood as the fight progress.
My favorite video essay about Bloodborne is about the "Visceral Femininity" of the game and it is a *fascinating* delve into the themes, symbolism, and even surface elements of the game. Thinking about the game in terms of femininity just adds to the layers and straight up horror of it.
It's honestly horrifying how relevant bloodborne's message is currently...
It’s sad that in many cultures there’s always an unfortunate mother turned into a sad female spirit, “yearning” for her kid(s). 😢😢😢 I pray all those spirits finally find peace.
it's because it's such a prevalent thing among humans, where in a world where birth is seen as a duty, not a want, there's nearly always a story about the consequences of that mindset
When I was on my way up to the wet nurse for the first time and I saw this ominous lady in a white bloodstained dress I freaked out and tried to kill her 😂 this whole game had me like that I swear! This is one of from's best games and I want a sequel already
Now hold on a moment. After defeating the queen at the end of the chalice dungeon journey, the reward is Mergo's mummified body, from within Yharnam's body. There is a condition where this may happen, where a baby dies and turns to calcium within the womb. Now, it's stated that even if the body dies, the soul lives on in the dream world (as seen by Lady Maria and Micolash.) By the end of the game, Yharnam's body is still alive at the dungeons, yet her soul is in the nightmare. I'm pretty sure Mergo wasn't forced out. She (he?) was miscarried. (Still possible for body and soul to be seperated, as seen again in the dungeons, where you can find the moon presense's physical form, while her soul is in the hunter's dream.) I'm just sharing my theory, plz no bully.
Wow, that was a very in-depth look at this character and the motivations behind her. Thank you for the way you approached this.
Bloodborne will forever be my favorite game. The secret missions. The lore the character designs the voice acting the everything is just done so perfect 🖤I’ll never fall out of love with the game it’s just a masterpiece
Also, she's the first one to contact great ones(oedon reached her and chose her as a pregnancy vessel) and ascended because she avoided death while shes dead and time and space like the great ones, they described her as she sleep walking instead of dead. Even the ost in the reel is a ritual rhythm talk about her, and they think she cursed them and haunted them forever and they are right she is cursing all.
All she wanted a peaceful death for her child.
Bruh imagine being born in the world of bloodborne. If it’s not the blood it’s the ones tainted by blood that will take your life
The one thing we know for certain about Yharnam is that, regardless of her consent in conceiving the child, she does mourn its loss.
She truly loves her baby, and the only thing to give her rest is to put the long stillborn child to rest as well.
One I get through my current games (Sonic Frontiers and GOW:R) I’m going through this one.
Please do. You will rage a little bit I just finished my first playthrough. Genuinely one of my favorite games ever made.
Came back here after this specific short managed to make me interested enough in Bloodborne and your channel to give it a try. By now I'm through your great, great, great "Boss Designs of Bloodborne" series and feel emotionally attached to this game and its enormous deepness and lore. Thank you for doing such a wonderful job on this deserving game. Your analyses and thoughts are extremely interesting - even the final episode in which you couldn't make "the great conclusion" was an eye-opener in itself, because Bloodborne is exactly that kind of game to me as well, always changing, and by that impressive alone.
And I love how you observe lore and let yourself get emotionally involved. Now that I've finished watching your series, I've talked to a friend who knows Bloodborne and I realized, From Software punishes players in a way who think of NPCs as "replacable beings" and distance themselves. I can never play such a game myself due to my health, so I'm very thankful I could join you in exploring this game for real, in a way I maybe would've never could if you didn't take us with you.
Imagine having been forced to become a mother and just immediately lose that child (I think there is this "phenomenon" that even if a mother doesn't want a child but when it's born they suddenly get REALLY attached and that's why I think it's really brutal)
I mean the baby was growing inside them for 9 months so they were already attached the moment they feel him/her moving in there 😞
@@AstarionWifey Perhaps but It is also likely 9 months of torture. Attachment is not the default. Lots of women ended up in psych wards from forced pregnancy and childbirth.
VERY weird thought but with all the birth talk, could the "blood" in willem's adage be a metaphor for a vagina (specifically through the male gaze as an 'object of pursuit')/sex? I mean specifically:
"we are born by the blood" - yeah that checks out
"made men by the blood" - reminds me of the (definitely problematic but we ARE talking about willem) "tradition" of boys thinking they need to get themselves laid to be "real men"
"undone by the blood" - the traditional christian mindset of sex being "dirty" or "sinful" and distracting you from spirituality / your pursuit of enlightenment
So yeah with this interpretation, the entire adage sounds like a riff on a christian commandment to celibacy.
Also, the way you described it, queen yharnam's role sounds exactly like the virgin Mary.
I really should rewatch that full length analysis.
Woah
Just threw me for a loop
First I do love this interpretation, as it does seem like all of the in game obsession with the Blood is similar to societies obsession (or tactical lack there of) with women’s bodies, specifically their womb in all the ways you brought up
Second: I was raised catholic, no longer affiliated, and when you put the Virgin Mary queen yharnam parallel into my brain, my world exploded
Never, ever was it suggested that Mary was anything less than happy, grateful even to be chosen for this, even knowing her son would eventually be crucified and mocked
This really makes the Virgin Mary story much darker in this context
I always saw it in the most literal sense, as;
being born of it,
growing up thanks to it,
and the betrayal of it eventually allowing your body to fail and die.
I believe this is the interpretation that Laurence saw during his final talk with Willem, which led him to take the warning lightly.
Another interpretation i saw is the one the game leads you to, being that;
it can birth you without an "impregnation" occurring,
it has immense healing and evolutionary properties that allowed mankind to soar past their previous capability,
it is addictive and causes man to become beast,
which I think is on the lines of Willem's sentiment.
It's interesting how such a seemingly predefined adage has so many interpretations
@@ceciliavasey9732 "Forced to have it, then forced to lose it" applies here as well, huh?
I’m just so happy to see a man not downplay the horrors of this kind of stuff. Good on you
good to know that the limits of dark storytelling are basically nonexistent because woah thats dark but very effective
as an afab person, who is terrified of pregnancy, I will never play this game lmao
The most effective horrors are the stories that could be real, that are real with only the situations changed.
Aw man, I just wanted one more short before bed...
God, the first time I saw this short, it instilled in me a deep, deep fear that I hadn't really considered before. But it terrifies me. It terrifies me because not only is it a painful reality, it is entirely possible for that to happen to me
Every Great One loses their child, and then yearns for a surrogate.
i shouldnt have to think about stuff like forced pregnancy because of my age, but it scares me a lot cause it happends, with both adults and minors. Pregnancy really freaks me out, even through consent. (though i like girls so no pregnancy on that part, but just the thought of having a man do something like that makes me feel sick)
anyways ive never looked into bloodborne but i shall look into it cause it looks beautiful in a crazy way
@@Bseazit's a pretty insane game, quite Lovecraftian too
Played this game through to completion after a miscarriage....
It hit different everytime I saw her
I’m a man, and even I find this whole thing messed up. When I was a kid, I obviously didn’t know much about the toll pregnancy can take on women, nor did I know about forced pregnancy. Being raised in a Baptist/Republican family will do that to you. I was pro-life then, believing the “life starts at conception” schtick, abortion was murder, that women were, quote, “the weaker vessel”, yadda yadda. It wasn't until my late teens that I understood how wrong I was. Then I read “The Handmaid’s Tale.” If that wasn't a red pill (as in “The Matrix” red pill, not “based and redpilled”), I don't know what is. I played Bloodborne long before reading that, but back then, I didn’t pay too much attention to the symbolism and such. Now, though, ye gods, the real-world subtext is pretty damn overwhelming.
I had no idea how truly dark and horrifying this was when I played years ago. This…..gave me goosebumps.
The face veil design is a very fucked up design detail. In some traditional weddings it's used to signal the bride is a virgin.Which probably means that the most traumatic experience of her life was also the first.
And also makes a twisted connotation to the virgin birth of Jesus, like a twisted awful retelling of it and the whole thing of her son suffering for religious reasons. including the title 'Queen' since Mary is sometimes referenced as queen or mother of heaven plus the little gold dotted headress in a circle looks a bit like the halos you see in some statues of saints.
Ps :I've never played bloodborne, this is just a half cooked thought
sounds like real life except for the sacrifices part
what? did the gods not sacrifice your child??