Honestly, the most frustrating thing about Spy is if you never do them, you dont know the layout or where to go when inside. They aren't always intuitive.
that is true, but at least with a frame like Wukong if you have a long time cloud ability then you can just take your time to explore the layout. The main problem in my opinion is people rushing the spy missions without a proper frame and just winging it. so better to do it alone.
Titania. If you ever want your mind blown, watch speedruns of spy missions, they're all using Titana. Untraceable gets you invisible before you get into the vault, and her blink dash lets you avoid any lasers or anything like that
Honestly there is no "Best warframe" in the game, you can do any mission with any frame, it's just the matter that some frames might do a certain job better! But I also don't know if Wisp's invincibility still doesn't make her get detected by lasers or cameras or drones? and that's why I choose wukong since he is a safe bet to use knowing that you can go through the whole spy mission without trying! and yes as long as it works for you and your play style then sure go for it!
There are multiple approaches, and usually when I make videos I keep in mind the new players! and since wukong is very easy to get from a dojo, I have chose him
I can still see some issues with this in certain tilesets, it’s always people playing non stealth frames, that ends up setting off alarms and getting data purged and causing failing of sorties, kuva fortress spy i can see causing the most trouble for people Like if you can get in and get out just fine and arent setting off the alarms then it’s all good Like, getting an ash or ivara is probably better for most players I’ve seen some wisps in spys with her 2 being able to teleport you onto other sides of lasers, and just being in the air enemies cant see you
Frames like Ivara and Wisp as well work in spy missions, but why I chose Wukong is that he is easy to get for new players, considering how easy he is to just pick up and use right away, and he doesn't really need much skill, so for new players it's a great pick for spy missions and also for not dying during the normal star chart.
just subsume "Perspicacity" instead of the fourth ability (helminth level 3) and auto suceed on any sortie/nightmare mission hack where you cant use ciphers
I never used so I can't tell but from my search it only does panel hacks? but still doesn't make you go through lasers and under cameras unnoticed right? Also I wanted to let people be able to get a frame instead of making it more complex with helminth, Thanks for the great info though!!
Best warframe for spy is any Warframe you like (you get to an point where you know every single layout and your able to do it with every... single ... warframe) 🤗 i dont get why everything in WF has to be "The Best" "the goat" "the fastest" "biggest" just enjoy the freaking game on dont let others stress you about it... pressure makes games no fun anymore... but for the real "Fun" ? Sure take that Moa and slap that Security Override on it, infuse your frame with the Helminth Ability Masters Summon and cheese your self thru the Spy Missions 🤣
@@DaftPunk201she does just not with prowl augment meanwhile wukong can be gotten way easier and doesn't need an augment to bypass lasers and he isn't slow
Wukong is safe as well, but I would say Ivara is more for players who can't keep up with the fast movement in spy missions or simply prefer slow and careful, but both work, I am just not sure if ivara can pass lasers or not!
I would mainly say build wukong for duration and energy to make the cloud walker ability last longer, if you also want more detail I will put a screenshot on imgur! imgur.com/a/9YnHFEg
@@PIKIWII That's a good way of doing it thanks! but also it is less accessible for new players and that's why I try to find an option that is easy to use!
It depend on a lot of things but yea. Personnaly I had Limbo before having the possibility to do wukong research in the dojo since Limbo bp is aquired on Europa junction. @@TheAverageGnome
This is the funniest thing too, I've been yelled at because someone HAD to use Ivara to do spy missions. Meanwhile the other two points I already did with Vauban.
That is true and before I had wukong in early game I did all spy missions with excalibur and had no problem aside from 1 or 2 tile sets, but when I give information in general and not a specific person I try my best to give an option that suits all! Including beginners and more advanced players!
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Honestly, the most frustrating thing about Spy is if you never do them, you dont know the layout or where to go when inside. They aren't always intuitive.
that is true, but at least with a frame like Wukong if you have a long time cloud ability then you can just take your time to explore the layout.
The main problem in my opinion is people rushing the spy missions without a proper frame and just winging it. so better to do it alone.
Titania. If you ever want your mind blown, watch speedruns of spy missions, they're all using Titana. Untraceable gets you invisible before you get into the vault, and her blink dash lets you avoid any lasers or anything like that
That's actually cool! I will definitely check out some speedruns!
@@maryjones14 genius
I have a lazy wukong for sortie and archon spy and rescue missions that has the auto-hack helminth on his 4 so I can just walk through those missions.
Tbh wukong is the best for any mission, wisp for me is the most powerful in spy missions for my play style, since you can be invincible indefinitely
Honestly there is no "Best warframe" in the game, you can do any mission with any frame, it's just the matter that some frames might do a certain job better! But I also don't know if Wisp's invincibility still doesn't make her get detected by lasers or cameras or drones? and that's why I choose wukong since he is a safe bet to use knowing that you can go through the whole spy mission without trying! and yes as long as it works for you and your play style then sure go for it!
Titania with MOA that has security override precept and master summons helminthed over her 1st ability.
There are multiple approaches, and usually when I make videos I keep in mind the new players! and since wukong is very easy to get from a dojo, I have chose him
@@TheAverageGnome very true. wukong is the most played for a reason.
I can still see some issues with this in certain tilesets, it’s always people playing non stealth frames, that ends up setting off alarms and getting data purged and causing failing of sorties, kuva fortress spy i can see causing the most trouble for people
Like if you can get in and get out just fine and arent setting off the alarms then it’s all good
Like, getting an ash or ivara is probably better for most players
I’ve seen some wisps in spys with her 2 being able to teleport you onto other sides of lasers, and just being in the air enemies cant see you
Frames like Ivara and Wisp as well work in spy missions, but why I chose Wukong is that he is easy to get for new players, considering how easy he is to just pick up and use right away, and he doesn't really need much skill, so for new players it's a great pick for spy missions and also for not dying during the normal star chart.
Octavia i think is the best one
just subsume "Perspicacity" instead of the fourth ability (helminth level 3) and auto suceed on any sortie/nightmare mission hack where you cant use ciphers
I never used so I can't tell but from my search it only does panel hacks? but still doesn't make you go through lasers and under cameras unnoticed right? Also I wanted to let people be able to get a frame instead of making it more complex with helminth, Thanks for the great info though!!
@@TheAverageGnomeyeah use that for missions that don't allow ciphers
@@TheAverageGnome you can think of it as a (slightly slower animation) cipher. its a gods end in archon hunts or sorties.
Best warframe for spy is any Warframe you like (you get to an point where you know every single layout and your able to do it with every... single ... warframe) 🤗 i dont get why everything in WF has to be "The Best" "the goat" "the fastest" "biggest" just enjoy the freaking game on dont let others stress you about it... pressure makes games no fun anymore... but for the real "Fun" ? Sure take that Moa and slap that Security Override on it, infuse your frame with the Helminth Ability Masters Summon and cheese your self thru the Spy Missions 🤣
Step.1 ivara Step.2 infiltrate mod Step.3 efficiency build
@just4universe219yeah I had her and then got her prime easy peasy
Ivara gets detected by lasers no? and I also wanted to give players a frame that can do it all without any experience ^^
@@TheAverageGnome Nope Ivara doesn't get detected by lasers at all.
@@DaftPunk201she does just not with prowl augment meanwhile wukong can be gotten way easier and doesn't need an augment to bypass lasers and he isn't slow
@@noahedenborg4221 Thanks for pointing that out! also yes wukong is definitely faster so it is a plus!
Wukong = speed
Ivara = safe
Wukong is safe as well, but I would say Ivara is more for players who can't keep up with the fast movement in spy missions or simply prefer slow and careful, but both work, I am just not sure if ivara can pass lasers or not!
@@TheAverageGnomeshe can pass anything if you have the augment
@@user-lf1vk1ve6l which augment?
can i know whats the build pls?
I would mainly say build wukong for duration and energy to make the cloud walker ability last longer, if you also want more detail I will put a screenshot on imgur!
imgur.com/a/9YnHFEg
@@TheAverageGnome this helped a lot, appreciate all your videos man!!
Limbo, just limbo. Go in rift, pass lasers without getting detected, ez.
Oh I didn't know he could pass lasers with rift! Thanks for sharing that!
@@TheAverageGnome no problem ! Just go in operator mode invis for the console since he can't interact with it in rift (or go out of rift)
@@PIKIWII That's a good way of doing it thanks! but also it is less accessible for new players and that's why I try to find an option that is easy to use!
It depend on a lot of things but yea. Personnaly I had Limbo before having the possibility to do wukong research in the dojo since Limbo bp is aquired on Europa junction. @@TheAverageGnome
The best Warframe for spy is the one where you get good and learn the maps and you'll have no issues using any frame
This is the funniest thing too, I've been yelled at because someone HAD to use Ivara to do spy missions. Meanwhile the other two points I already did with Vauban.
That is true and before I had wukong in early game I did all spy missions with excalibur and had no problem aside from 1 or 2 tile sets, but when I give information in general and not a specific person I try my best to give an option that suits all! Including beginners and more advanced players!
@@diabolicturtles292 If it works for you and you find it fun then who can stop you as long as you don't lose the spy data!
@@TheAverageGnome based Excalibur-does-all-content user