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"According to shiny hunter map a guy that is really into pokemon hopefully not children"
that fucking line got me so off guard I just had to comment about it.
i need context. That was enough shade to eclips the sun
@@Todo776 map is a term that means minor-attracted person. You can find some videos about it on youtube and how Twitter is a cesspool of people trying to normalize that
@@613watcher ah, tyty
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feel bad for the guy who might unknowingly use the name lmao
"You ever been in 'Nam, trainer?"
-Lt. Surge, probably
“If they run they’re Pokémon, If they don’t run they’re caught Pokémon.”
@@zenx3855 you thanks for the refrence but at the same time i dont know how to feel about that sentence
Lt.Surge always put me off and scared me, and yet had such a feeling of nostalgia to him. Idk he was weird.
@@zenx3855 “I love the smell of Fire Blast in the morning, it smells like... victory.”
@@jerrell1169 ITS EASY YOU JUST DONT CATCH EM OFFGUARD TOO MUCH HAHA
The Regis may also represent the different times of history, Regirock is the stone age, Regice the Ice age and Registeel the age of steell(And extras being Regigiggas being from the age of Pangeia, Regidraco the medieval/dark times and Regieleki being the Industral Revolution)
This one can actually be very plausible.
Good theroy but I still believe registeel was an Ex-nazi tank commander
@@vangard9725 imagine seeing it a robot driving a tank
@@immortal_shrooms6757 it would be super scary to see
RegiModo? Represents the modern age?
(Idk what I’m talking about)
Honestly, seemingly far-fetched or not, it’s always neat to see theories and thoughts regarding a game from those of the community that speak a different language and have a general different background.
I like any fan theory that isnt the coma or dream theories
Yeah! Plus it taught me some stuff about Nagasaki and Hiroshima that I didn’t know before!
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 Yeah, coma and dream theories are a dime a dozen and hardly ever add anything new to the table. I'd also add "everyone's dead and in the afterlife" and "the characters represent the seven deadly sins" to the pile of overused creepy theories too
I like how the Dark Souls fans always imagine something more happening when a character stops appearing or a quest-line ends. Like nothing really ends.
Jotaro
I do think it's interesting that the days of tragedies decrease spawn rate, it might be a similar reason to the festive holiday and is to discourage playing on important days both ones ment for celebrating and ones meant for remembering and mourning.
Which makes no sense because a decreased encounter rate means no interruptions and therefore encourage you to play
@@literallygrass1328 yeah but without encounters you can't grind or like go shiny hunting
@@wretchedcats4909 vs seeker and the pokeradar
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@@Fuck_You_TH-cam_ amongus!!
I forget the specifics but apparently in a developer QA this was actually inquired about. The response was, paraphrased, "a good observation." Which seems like an odd response if this is all a coincidence.
The instructions for the Regis also have a lot darker, sadder and more direct theory, that being that they are exactly the instructions used to survive the bombing. First you Dig, then you bring the bombs Wailord and Relicanth, then you are instructed to wait for a period of time until it's safe to climb back outside (fly), looking hopefully to a more peaceful future.
This is one of my favorite theories. It doesn't seem intended to be scary or spooky, but instead something more like an in-game memorial.
My first thought when he mentioned the wait time was waiting for fallout to lessen a bit, too.
keep mind which channel you are on - he would say your average summer day is creepy. Like, comment and subscribe!!!
The fact that the Regis can learn hyper beam reminds me of Godzilla, who is of course, a symbol of nuclear fear.
And the 2011 Earthquake and Tsunami, because of Shin Godzilla
@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 Woah, didn't know that. I guess Godzilla can be used as a symbol of disasters overall.
Shin Godzilla was much like the original Godzilla but instead of showing Japan as the victim of outside nuclear attack, it shows Japan as a enemy to itself. It shows the government’s miss-handling of many things such as Nuclear Explosion in 2011 and the mismanagement during the tsunami.
@@samuraijackoff5354 It's just like what the Blue Oyster Cult's song of Godzilla says: "History shows again and again how nature points out the folly men."
@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 that was the Fukushima Meltdown incident, another nuclear disaster, which was caused by the natural disasters you mentioned.
I'm gonna be honest with ya'll; this technically isn't a Mini Mysteries actually. I just...lost the intro I used to use for my generic spooky videos lol. Um....yeah I guess I gotta make a new intro now. Also P.S, this was just a fun lil theory I wanted to explore cuz it seemed kinda interesting. Don't get too mad and think I'm being DEAD SERIOUS about this stuff.
Cool.
#sadge
That sucks, I hope you come up with something awesome though.
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goose saying "pearl and diamond" instead of "diamond and pearl" made me have to rewind the video just to make sure i wasn't mishearing things lol
Man, I love Pokemon Y and X
@@Gabriel-wk3hz pokemon shield and sword :-)
Pokémon white and black are the best
I sure love pokemon moon and sun!
I sure do love diamond pokemon!
I'm curious how the meeting went;
Game designer:
"I have the designs for the regi-pokemon in our new kid-friendly pokemon game. The first stands for one of the atom bombs droped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the second for the explosion and the third for the victims."
Game director:
"excuse me, what?"
This was actually done while the game director went to the restroom. He didn't suspect a thing.
they probably have little to actually do with the bombs. They have pokemon that are tree stumps haunted by dead kids, so if they go that far I think they'd explicitly reference a bomb
@@illeagle9560 I remember that a game developer on gamefreak called the atomic regi theory a “good observation” so even if, big if, they didn’t intend it they probably like the theory.
Considering how Gen 3 had overall themes of environmentalism, I can definitely get behind this.
Another thing to possibly add is that registeel's eyes look like the atomic structure for carbon.
Not only that, but tons of carbon 14 is produced when you detonate a nuclear bomb.
I had wondered about that myself.
Interesting how there's no mention of Regirock's eyes in the shape of an H and the shape of Registeel's body!
I believe that they represent human development
Registeel the bronze age
Regirock the stone age
Regice the ice age
Regieleci the electric age
Regidrago the dark ages
So what does Regigigas represent?
@@idonttknowhowtoswithmyname2808 a creator or god of some kind
@@idonttknowhowtoswithmyname2808 I think it represents the age before human history
that and they tie into the jewish origins of the legendary's of the 3rd gen, specifically the Jewish interpretation of golems
Oooo
"Don't look up Hibakusha" So naturally, I looked it up and researched a little, and wow, this is very sad! I'm so sorry that the people had to go through that... Stuff like this never gets taught in history class.
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@Yisha. cuz its mostly propaganda.
@Yisha. history is written by the winners
@Yisha. you are taught simply the basics. X happened here. X was very bad. Most of the time youre only told nazi bad ww2 time. Youre not taught the massive amount of economic and social alienating stress that germany underwent after the end of ww 1 due to the treaty of versailles that eventually led to the germans voting in the party. We arent told how japan went on a mass genocidal extermination of china during ww2 only that pearl harbor happens america gets pissed then boom time. What we are taught is propaganda by ommission. "Every record has been rewritten or altered" thats what i mean. If you assume that as wasting your time that all history we are "taught" is at best a bare bones bullet point presentation then you are more trusting than most.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Or how various American war movies show the "enemy" committing war crimes in the movie, even though it was Americans who committed the real life incidents they were based on.
I don't think I've EVER heard of this theory before, but it's pretty interestin ngl
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@@Fuck_You_TH-cam_ all i need to say is ya name and that's enough
@@marvelous_jack5228 I just sneezed on my balls.
I wrote about this theory on /r/pokemon on Reddit 4 years ago under the title "Three of the best Japanese fan theories", doing all the research and translating everything. This YTer copied my post, word for word (7:38 is a screenshot of my post) without crediting me and got 200000 views from it. I'm pissed.
This theory is very popular in Japan.
And 4 regis weak to fight type, because fight means war or something.
I'm so interested in this theory.
The whole deal about Regirock representing hibakusha and how it’s implied people in the Pokemon universe fear the Regis could probably reference how hibakusha people experienced (and continue to experience) discrimination from both able-bodied people and the government, treating them as dangerous or disease/radiation hotspots.
Isn't Hyper Beam supposed to be a reference to the Atomic Breath Godzilla uses? (Another fictional creature inspired by the destructive capabilities of nukes)
Pretty sure it's just supposed to be a large amount of energy
My birthday is Aug 6th. Whenever I get a new pokemon game I'm cursed to spend the first day with a -10% encounter rate. All this time I thought Nintendo just hated me.
I really love this theory, because it doesn’t make the games overly dark or anything. It feels like a heartfelt yet haunting memorial to a national tragedy.
The Relicanth and Wailord comparison is really accurate I must say. It is crazy.
True.
To me the regis always seemed like gentle giants, misunderstood creations of regigigas that were feared for their immense power, we don't know of anything bad regigigas did, after all it helped shape the world by pulling continents
"Who was in to pokemon, and hopefully not children"
LMFAO
It kind of annoyed me how this guy totally missed the chance to talk about how gen 3 is literally a direct response to the politcal and environmental issues that were going on in Japan at the time which makes this theory perfectly viable in Gen 3
Oh god I looked up the pictures from the aftermath and it's absolutely heartbreaking. The hibakusha who were so badly injured and outcasted were normal civilians... I can't imagine the pain they felt/still feel.
Goose I can't believe you did this whole video without mentioning the Unown theory
Oh my gawd
May I ask what is the Unown theory
I wrote about this theory on /r/pokemon on Reddit 4 years ago under the title "Three of the best Japanese fan theories", doing all the research and translating everything. This YTer copied my post, word for word (7:38 is a screenshot of my post) without crediting me and got 200000 views from it. I'm pissed.
"We were only following orders, trainer"
ok so i know in the beginning you were joking about the whole “pokemon is a nuclear wasteland” thing but young me actually believed this because of the few references to certain real life animals
A long time ago I read that the Regis were thought of when Reggie Fils-Aimé felt that the Pokemon games needed more of "The Regginator" in them, with Regigigas representing the man himself and I've just run with that since
Yeah the Pokémon connections to irl stuff and just lore in general have always been fucked up.
The Hiroshima/Nagasaki theory was the creepiest one to me.
@@unhingedskrunkly8512 that's up there. However for me the creepiest has gotta be the child kindnapper hypno. Mostly because it's not a theory but because is a thing that actually happens in the game/manga
@@unhingedskrunkly8512 excuse me?
@@sptflcrw8583 sorry bro my hypno escaped from its ball
pokemon has references to war, that's undeniable. I think it was planned to be more heavy handed in the early games (Lt Surge and such) then dialed back when Pokemon exploded and needed to prioritize marketability. But it makes sense for fans to keep reading into it. At this point I think the extent of it is up to personal interpretation.
Goose back at it again with the quality uploads! Missed ya my guy!!
I wrote about this theory on /r/pokemon on Reddit 4 years ago under the title "Three of the best Japanese fan theories", doing all the research and translating everything. This YTer copied my post, word for word (7:38 is a screenshot of my post) without crediting me and got 200000 views from it. I'm pissed.
@@DrowningInTea i call bullshit
@@Postaldude2003 call bullshit what? I wrote that post lol
@@DrowningInTea give me sum proof!
I dunno, besides the fact that they learn explosion at level one the rest is the theory sounds like a reach to me
One thing it really has going for me personally is the footprint thing. Regirock's actual feet look nothing like its footprint, same to a lesser extent for Registeel (where they at least conform to the overall profile)- that shape had to be deliberate. The recurrent seven eyes also probably has some meaning whether this theory is true, someone should look into that part- doesn't line up with obvious things like the atomic numbers of uranium/plutonium or the dates though (maybe on the Japanese calendar, which counted years differently?)
Of course all of this also runs into issues for how well it intersects with the fact that we know that they're based off of Golems from Hebrew myth as well. Why would they be that, *and* the bombs? Maybe, since the Golem was a defender, they were protecting survivors? Like them, the Golem was locked up when it wasn't needed anymore, so maybe that lines up but I don't know.
the gym leader Lt. Surge was rumoured to be a vet of this conflict
Theory about regigas.
The elephants foot
It's feet look deformed, bursting outward, similar to the pattern of the elephants foot, it looks old enough that it's old, but it is clean enough that it looks almost new in spriteworks, that could represent the Chernobyl sarcophagus, plus it's located in the colder parts of sinnoh, and from what I've heard (don't hold me to this) Pripyat, Ukraine, the location of Chernobyl, is pretty cold most times, and while it really doesn't line up location wise (sinnoh being in Japan) it still seems kind of notable
Ah yes the famous elephant leg formation. Hearing about this thing always made me feel uneasy.
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire: Deep Lore relating to real life.
Speedrunners trying to break World Records: Oh no. Anyway...
The wailord and relicanth part sold me on this not gonna lie. The requirements never made any sense to now
as an italian, it was kinda "shocking" hearing you say "festa della repubblica" when we celebrated it just yesterday
me, who has all regis and has waggled a feather toy in their faces: haha big pokemon go ununun
“In a cosmic sort of way yes”
- Sheldon J.Plankton
That's a theory I've never heard. I can be convinced.
I wrote about this theory on /r/pokemon on Reddit 4 years ago under the title "Three of the best Japanese fan theories", doing all the research and translating everything. This YTer copied my post, word for word (7:38 is a screenshot of my post) without crediting me and got 200000 views from it. I'm pissed.
The days are probably like that so instead of taking your time to play games, you respect the dead and focus on what happened in those days.
When they talk about living and surviving, theres also text saying "we feared it" likely referring to regigigas, the sealed chamber was likely a stronghold where regigigas' powerful creations couldn't reach them, after all regigigas was worshipped before being sealed away, and the sealed chamber was likely a place where most people stayed while the lesser regis and later regigigas were sealed away. Also they likely feared them because these pokemon could not be destroyed. In the crown tundra whenever a regi is defeated it is simply stated that the regi "stopped moving" likely implying the how of a regi is similar to electricity in a phone, it's simply a power source, which implies the regis couldn't be destroyed, they are referred to as eternal pokemon by the sealed chamber texts. I mean, regirock can easily repair itself with any rocks, regice cant be melted, registeel is made of a metal harder than any other which only regigigas can create from magma, these creations couldn't be stopped so the people had to hide and seal them away until a worthy trainer tamed them. I'd say those locations probably were chosen based on the atomic bomb droppings simply because there was a trio of 3 associated landmarks which would make choosing a spot for the regis a lot easier
the regis are based off the stone, ice and iron age
and yeah, regidrago and eleki are based off the medeival and modern ages respectively
Registeel looks eerily like the Demon Core.
It's not like an orb is a very distinct shape
@@anexistingperson8540 it's orbs within orbs encapsuled in thick layers. I think that's actually fairly distinct from an art and design perspective.
I think its a little far fetched (haha get it) but I always love hearing Pokemon theories because of how bizarre they can be. I'm sure if you dug deep enough, you could find war references in other Pokemon and Pokedex entries.
I remembered a few videos about this recently, and they were all deleted. Glad you did this!
Couldn't the Braille be there cause it's in a cave without light, so in order to read them the people who wrote it in Braille?
The fact that regidrago's eyes are blue could be a reference to the method of calculating critical mass called "tickling the dragon's tail," where scientists bring two or more fissile pieces of matter together until criticality is almost reached. There have been accidents, most notably, the first fatality due to a criticality, when a scientist accidentally let a tungsten block fall onto a sphere of plutonium, causing a pale blue glow to come from the reaction of the neutrons reflecting off the tungsten block. The sphere of plutonium was labeled "the demon core" which could also explain regidrago's shape.
Wait they released new Rejis. I haven’t played the new games so whoa.
There’s a similar theory with the ruins of alph in gen 2 and honestly it’s just as, if not MORE, convincing
I'm pretty sure Gen 2's unown area had something to do with the atomic bombs.
this shit makes me sad. I know a fair amount of stuff that happened in Asia during WWII, and this shit honestly shocked me man. Goose Boose out here making me dumbfounded right now.
personally id guess that maybe and its a stretch: that the regis *were* the bombs atleast registeel either a manmade pokemon or a ancient pokemon found that was so powerful they used it as a weapon
It’s possible that Regirock’s footprint could represent the “Alligator Ant people” that were created shortly after the bombs dropped. So it starts with the bomb in the air, the bombs explosion, and then the effects on the people.
I think registeel is the bombs and regirock and ice represent people caught in the blast. Regigigas represents the people who weren't effected by the bombs
I believe that Regigigas could represent the "sleeping giant", as refered by General Yamamoto. Basically its America, its slow start being a reference to the U.S joining a bit late to the war. Regieleki can be a reference to the blitzkrieg, while regidrago can be a reference to either german wonder weapons or the Bismarck.
you forgot to mention that the 3 regis learn Lock-On.....
plus superpower, curse, zap cannon all fit with the motif as well as ancientpower/hyper beam (i.e. all the moves the regi trio share in gen 3)
This is absolutely fascinating. I'd love more videos like this
Theory about cubone. Because the "mother" of a cubone is a marowack, who also wears a skull, the skull is just a family heirloom. It isn't its dead mothers skull, but it is its dead mothers hat that just so happens to be a skull.
“You’re gonna be okay”
I needed that, thanks.
what they're made of could also represent the effects of a nuke and the bombs itself
regirock could represent the gigatons of stone that would been sent flying by the bombs like a children's toy
regice could represent a nuclear winter, the result of all that rock burning like gunpowder and the ash filling the skies
registeel could represent the nukes themselves and that they both had smooth metallic casings
Had no idea there were new regis, wtf
My God, the art from the survivors of the bombings is some of the most disturbing shit I've ever seen, and I'm relatively difficult to disturb. The way they stiffly hold their arms outward as if to preserve what remains of them, and the way their faces melt and contort is just... its all so agonizingly real. The scariest part is that most of the art from survivors depicts these figures in the same way; meaning they all saw the same thing and that's likely what it *actually looked like,* rather than some dramatization. If there was ever a Hell on Earth, they bore witness to it.
Oh my gosh I remember reading this theory in a Japanese book of Pokémon theories. I didn’t expect to see it again, especially in an English video. I was never active in the Japanese community, so I didn’t know it was that popular. Though I don’t remember the theory being that the golems represented the hibakusha themselves. The book also theorized that Victini’s backstory might be a reference to the atom bomb. I might need to look at that book again, I don’t remember other ones right now. But I had just gone to Hiroshima’s Peace Park and/or was reading Barefoot Gen at the time I think, so the theory really fascinated me.
Also, apparently the Braille descriptions on the Reji puzzles seem to reference the bombings; I think at least one mentions hiding in what seems to be a bunker.
There’s also some other... odd locations like the location correspond to Ground Zero bring a desert, and in ORAS there’s an island outright referencing Dejima, a man made island where factory workers used to live in some quite apparently terrible conditions.
Also Goose Boose’s content has changed a lot since I last saw him...
11:22 Can I just say that I really enjoy that you leave stuff like this in the video? A lot of times when TH-camrs leave those outtakes in it feels contrived and labored, like they're trying to make themselves sound more relatable, but with you, it just sounds like you're having fun making a video. The fact that you don't do it often also helps. I just love how, even though your content covers some dark stuff, it just feels like I'm talking to a friend about some cool stuff we found online.
so dp have hard coded in a 5-10% spawn increase on certain days? and one of the 10% days is my birthday (9/20)? that's actually so cool
I needed that message at the end Goose. Thank you
Just the ”earthquake” TM move is really aggressive in this game. Its my favorite earthquake animation, But thats because it feels so real and chaotic and the impact in the move shows
If you listen closely, Regirock's voice has a plane-like sounding sound affect which could mean that that was the plane they heard before it dropped the bomb.
Okay, now I'm implementing the 10% rate decreases in my Pokémon fan games.
I'm guessing the theory doesn't cover Regigigas, Regidraco, or Regieleki, huh? Would be interesting to see how they'd fit into this theory
unironically love this theory, anything remotely heavy in pokemon always gets me.
"You're gonna be OK."
Thank you Goose Boose, I seriously needed to see that 😎
been subbed since you had 11k subs very happy to see you come this far
Wow I just got done looking through HIbakushi artwork...I can't imagine living after having witnessed what they saw.
This is actually really sad
Ive Been Waiting For A Pokemon Vid From You!
I'd love to see you do more theory explanation videos.
Some of the points are really far fetched, but I can see some of them being real and some others just trying to connect more things into it
I actually heard a similar theory but it was about the Unown instead of the regi trio
Absolutely love your content, can't wait to see more.
It could be argued that Regirock's footprint looks like an aerial view of someone curling up in anticipation of a disaster.
I love the idea of reggiesteel charging through a battle field and ripping apart enemy troops
I think the opening of "mini mysteries" should be in Traumathon 3, because it reminds me of something I always heard when I was a kid and it scared me and when I hear the opening it still does scar me a little
Funny in the beta of gen 2 Unown was found in a place simmler to hiroshima to represent the shadows of the people struck, so it's not far fetch for this theory to be true
Goose boose and Pokémon? The collab I never knew I needed. But yeah this was an excellent video discussing theories and stuff I never before and I’ve played all the Pokémon games since Diamond. Great job.
It's probably been brought up before but if I remember correctly, the cut content found in the Spaceworld beta versions of Gen II seemed to imply that Ho-oh and Unowns were somehow referencing victims of nuclear war, so maybe this time, the devs actually went through with it
I bet the decreased the encounter rate so people would acknowledge the tragedies instead of playing video games all day
3:06 really caught me off guard, had me laughing loudly.
When you pointed it out, my first thought was the footprints look like a hydrogen atom.
As for other directly war-inspired Pokemon designs-- the beta sprites for Remoraid & Octillery come to mind.
I thought you were gonna talk about the Pokemon war of X and Y that apparently happened, but this is so much more freaky!! i like it!
This theory is actually so interesting I could be convinced!! Like, damn
The nuke theory is a huge stretch, especially the footprint segment.
The piece that holds the most credence to me, in particular, is the Wailord and Relicanth requirements. That always stuck out to me as so utterly bizarre and outlandish. What relevance do these two pokemon hold to the mystery of the Regi? But with the correlation of the Fat Man and Little Boy, it does actually make a lot of sense. So weird.
Love your videos man keep up the work
I don’t know why but I get really happy when I watch one of your videos
keep up the good work :3
I used to be terrified of the regis in the pokemon movie, they act and attack like full on army weapons, one of them grab and throw a car like it's nothing, they were my childhood nightmares lol
oh boy my favorite thing to watch 30 minutes before bed!
I would really love hearing about more of these Japanese (or other country of origin) theories, if there are others that are also not well known in the English speaking sphere!