Apparently it does. Oh well the board it's replacing is the B550 vision-D which is getting really expensive and hard to find. I wouldn't recommend a B550 Master to anyone who wants to OC. The B550-E is similar in features to the Taichi but the Taichi is better equipped for RAM OC.
@@mainly_dyutish9 yeah I'm agreeing with you. I made a mistake about how many M.2s it has. I'm just also explaining why I wouldn't remove the board from the list anyway since there aren't really any better alternatives to the B550 Taichi.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Taichi has consistent issues with mem even on the new topology. I’ve worked with about a half dozen people on OC discord who’ve had extreme difficulty with the board. The only thing I didn’t extensively test regarding the issues was termination, namely the ODT impedance. Assuming that wasn’t the cause of the issues, I’m personally hesitant to recommend the board for memory OC.
00:00 - Intro MOTHERBOARDS 00:39 - MSI B550 UNIFY-X (aside from memory overclocking, also applies to non-X) 04:25 - X570 BCLK Limitations 05:54 - Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master ("expensive, all-around motherboard") 08:13 - Asrock X570 Taichi ("the everything motherboard" non-oc feature-wise) 11:28 - Asrock B550 Taichi ("interesting alternative to the X570 board if you'd like to save a bit of money and maybe get somewhat better overclocking") 13:25 - Gigabyte B550 Aorus PRO V2 ("the cost effective option", "strong memory overclocker", "same VRM as X570 Taichi") MEMORY KITS 15:26 - G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB DDR4-3600 CL14 ("strong Samsung B-die bin", good for intro to manual oc or set and forget XMP) 18:00 - RGB flavours of the same kit (Trident Z Neo, Trident Z, Trident Z Royal in Silver, Trident Z Royal in Gold) 20:09 - Crucial Ballistix 2x32GB DDR4-3200 CL16 ("as high performance as it gets for 32GB DIMMs") 22:47 - G.Skill Ripjaws V (and Flare X/Trident Z) 2x16GB DDR4-3200 CL14 ("cost-effective B-die kit", "terrible at [XMP]") 24:18 - Crucial Ballistix 2x8GB DDR4-3600 CL16 and G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB DDR4-3600 CL16 ("'I don't care about overclocking but I want good performance' kits") Also includes tangent into practicality of doubling up on two DIMM kits 27:27 - Closing comments/Outro
I got 4x8gb Patriot Viper Steel 4000 C19 and damn I am glad I listened to you. With them it made memory overclocking a lott less painful because basically anything I typed in worked andwould stay stable. Thanks for showing me a kick ass memory kit for cheap.
I mod my PCIe covers to add extra buttons such as Clear CMOS and my case didn’t have a reset switch and I have added a power button in parallel to case one and mounted it on my desk
My Favorite PCB and Bdie education channel. 🧠 ❤️ P.S thank you so much for informing us about the additional discrepancy between x570 base clock issues, I was about to get a x570 for some hobby OC, 😅 phew.i wasn't aware of this.
Thank you very much for this. I am an enthusiast who likes to tinker with their daily setups and learn hardcore overclocking because it fascinates me and indirectly teaches me about the hardware and the physics/engineering behind high-performing hardware. But having high-end dailyable set-ups is perfect content for me, and I think a lot of people. Also, using your power-plane cooling idea (not fool cooling, but basic heatsink and fan) did increase performance by a measurable amount on a 5900x.
20:10 "If you want 64 Gigs of RAM. This, just get this." Bought the Ballistix 64 GB kit because of the capacity, awesome to hear him recommend it, makes me want to buy another kit.
I have the "avoid" B450 Gaming F from Asus and it's running 2000 FCLK on the 5600X quite ok, I just had to bump the four voltages that dram calculator recommends you use, and just a tad over that recommended value for three of them. I did experience some USB reconnecting issues like Ryzen does, like you said that is unstable infinity fabric, so I bumped up those four voltages and now it's running ok. No memory errors on 4000 CL 16, overclocked 3200 CL14 Flare X. I could not get CL 14 to work on 4000 yet. Thanks for creating this channel, I have learned a lot from it. Good luck with your XOC endeavors! I am currently building a custom water loop for the 5600X. Why? Because I want to overclock the snot out of it, and maybe get a 5800X in the future.
I had a heck of a time finding a 64gb kit for the x570 Taichi. The crucial ballistix 2x32 cl16 was finally the answer and runs 1900:3800 on a 3900xt. It hated 4x16 3200 cl14 and was never even quite stable with a 3x32 garbage lpx 3200 cl16.
Similar issue on the b550 Taichi: Tried 4x 16gb gskill 3600 cl 16 (b-die) sticks and was not even able to run them at 1600:3200. Would have needed to go down to 1500:3000 so I returned them and went with 2x 16 gb gskill 3600 cl 14. That works flawless. 4x sticks seems to be too hard for most b550/x570 boards.
I run 4x16 micron rev-e 3200 cl16 at 3600 cl16, just had to bump trcd from 18 to 20. I also tested 4x16 micron rev-b 3200 cl16, that set worked at 3600, but at cl18 trcd 20. This is on a “pre-b550 times” release x570 Taichi
10:01 On the ASRock X570 Taichi board, I believe the 3rd m.2 only shares PCIe lanes with the bottom PCIe x4 slot, so you should be able to run 8 SATA drives and 3 m.2s if you wanted, and give up the bottom PCIe slot (if I'm reading the manual correctly. ASRock doesn't have a nice storage compatibility chart like gigabyte or ASUS). Thanks for the great video as always Buildzoid. Nice to have a great summary video like this. Helped me makes my final purchasing decisions.
The Asrock x570 Taichi allows you run 3 x M.2 and all 8 SATA ports at the same time, I've been running it like this since buying it about 1.5 years ago. If using the 3rd M.2 you lose pci slot 5. its a choice between the two. Its been a really great board.
Unfortunately my 5900x is limited to 1866fclk, so I ended up selling my 2x16 b-die and getting that 2x32 rev b ballistix kit... it was basically an even trade for double the capacity. They both run 3733 cl14 and while the timings don't generally play as nice, it's really not that big of a deficit. Highly recommended for anyone looking for higher capacities.
Got 5950x back in February with B550 Unify(non-x) with 4x8Gb Viper steels 4400cl19 following your PCB review. What a great memory for it's price,currently daily driving 3800 cl14 at 1.5V in 1:1, beast for daily PC.
@super hessu Not sure about Intel, but SoC and DDR voltages are separate things, as far as I know it's shouldn't do any harm to cpu itself,also I got a fan directly on top of my RAM in case,so both should be safe
@super hessu I know what IMC is, and those concerns is here from around when DDR4 was released. I know many people that running 1.5 daily for 3+ years without any signs of degradation on both ram and CPU whatsoever.I can't say that it's absolutely safe, but people run it at 1.5 for whole DDR4 lifecycle without any major sings of CPU failing, so I'm willing to take the risk)
@@SovietN1nja Just out of curiosity how did u get a fan over your ram? Is it like an addon fan or what case are you using? I know its not necessary if im below 1.5v but i kind of want to do it anyway?
@@LordBattleSmurf it's just a case fans, but they blow on the RAM directly.It's Lian LI Lancool 2 Mesh Performance,top and front 140mm fans create very good airflow in the RAM area.
@buildzoid. You mentioned 4 stick DDR4 being horrible? why? what's the tech limitation that's causing this? I have 4 sticks (8 GB) of B-die and on my Aorus X570 Aorus Elite Wifi, I can't even enable XMP which was 3600-CL18-19-19-39-58 older Coasair Vengeance (with just white LED lights). The best I could do with my 4 stick is 3400 CL14-15-15-31-48. 33 MHz over 3400 will result in mobo not even POST regardless of voltage adjustments on b-die or mem controller on my Ryzen 5900x.
just understand that he's competitive overclock biased not quite daily driven focused, you will 100% crash and all the time if you try high frequency memory clocks and overclocking costs too much in power on a 5950x I own a 5950x and owned previously a threadripper 3960x, even If I managed to overclock it constantly switching between games, video encoding, work, idle surfing watching movies etc.. it will crash and hardcore, it's not blue screen intel, the computer straight shuts down and will corrupt whatever was opened, it destroyed several game saves, something that never happened to me with intel (or ryzen 3000 threadripper now that I think of it) I'm running 3600 like he recommends, on a supposedly 4000Ghz kit I can benchmark at 3800/1900 fine but as soon as I try real use it crashes (it's the transitions between multi core to higher ghz higher voltage single core use that's problematic for me)
I find the x570 dark hero to be a good step up from the x570 master I get a bit better memory O/C as well as far less annoying quirks (ie my board not turning on every week or two unless I pull the battery for 5min). Also I really think for a high end gaming setup the b550 master is a fantastic board. Really good vrm and great feature set, yes the dual bios is kind of odd but that really does not come up unless you are really giving it.
I run both X570 Dark Hero and B550 Unify-X. I prefer the Unify-X and would recommend over the Dark Hero. If you overclock that is especially on the RAM side of things.
On the ASRock X570 Taichi (Razer Edition) the only compromise is that you have to choose if you want to use the third M.2 slot, coming from the chipset or the regular chipset PCIe slot. The 8 x SATA always works. (Source: Me and a personal system 🙃)
@@mardonram8673 It's for storage in your local network, not for going out to the WWW. Though in some countries/regions (like Switzerland) you can get 25GBit/s fibre for just 60CHF a month, and >1GBit/s is quite common there.
@@tommihommi1 You still need a router or switch that supports it, even for the local network. An entry-level 2.5GbE switch is about $110-$150, which is kinda pricey still. 10GbE is pricier still - I think that the cheapest is Mikrotik's and you'll need to get 10G SFPs for it, for about $200 or so. Are you sure it's 25Gbit/sec in Switzelrand? Supporting that kind of speed over ethernet requires 40GbE practically, and at that point you're looking at some very pricy and hard to configure hardware (Mikrotik CRS326 and 2 QSFP+ modules will set you back nearly $500, not including the fiber optic cabling, and you need to learn SwitchOS in order to be able to configure it).
@@benjaminchung991 yes, that's what I'm saying. Many NAS can do 2.5GBit, so the only cost effective way to do it is having dual LAN on your motherboard and just connect that directly to the NAS.
@@benjaminchung991 apparently yes I was sent a link, it's recent but I was told 25Gb/s require thousand(s) of dollars entreprise hardware, you're probably right I have 10Gbit/s optic fiber myself (the router only has 1 10gbit port you need to buy a switch if you want to connect more than 1 computer) LAN and online are very different things and windows, antivirus etc.. will nerf your speed hardcore..apparently Linux users can do 8000/8000 but in win10 I go from 7000/3000 to 3000/2000 speed tests depending on the alignement of planets, my record of actual download speed is 564Mbytes/s but I had to really work for it and queue game updates from several clients, video downloads, linux isos downloads and start them all together lol took me more time to set up than to download, apparently I'm eligible for 25gbit/s lol wouldn't know what to do with it it's too fast really unless you want to "email" 4K vfx renders to a studio in hollywood lol
Howabout the gigabyte vision d-p? Just dropped on newegg. What I mean is it seems to trade little ram overclocking for more pcie slots and dual x8 pcie simultaneously/sli.
Interesting video, as always. By the way, I'm kinda mad that ASUS didn't made to your list (yeah I love ASUS, judge me) but I can see why. Also, could you post a video on overclocking with PBO2? It's quite fun and different using the curve optimiser vs all-clock overclock.
B550 vs. X570 basic differences, as far as I know. For most people, all that PCIe stuff isn't important. Especially if you're just casual Gamer. On the other hand, if you need more flexible PCIe Bifurcation with more lanes, > 128GB memory, > 2 memory channels, > 16 cores, and much higher price is acceptable, HEDT class motherboards and CPUs (like Threadripper) might be for you. AMD B550 (Q2/2020) * Straight to CPU: PCIe 4.0 x4 + x16 * Chipset Link: PCIe 3.0 x4 (~3.9 GB/s) * All other PCIe is maximum 3.0, including NVMe M.2 * PCIe general purpose lanes: PCIe 3.0 x10 (9.9 GB/s). * Cheaper * Newer -> possibly better memory OC(?) and newer QVL * Much better BCLK Overclocking (even up to ~120 MHz) * No Chipset Fan. AMD X570 (Q3/2019) * Straight to CPU: PCIe 4.0 x4 + x16 (same) * Chipset Link: PCIe 4.0 x4 (~7.9 GB/s) (double) * All other PCIe & NVMe M.2 can be 4.0. (double) * PCIe general purpose lanes: PCIe 4.0 x16 (31.5 GB/s) (triple). * No/minimal BCLK Overclocking (~102 MHz) * Chipset Fan (almost always), unless it's the new 'X570S'. Usually that "x4 + x16" means NVMe M.2 SSD + GPU, both straight to the CPU. Rest of the traffic - with few exceptions, depending on your HW - goes via the Chipset: PCIe, NVMe M.2, SATA, USB, LAN, Wi-Fi... But it could also be, in the most extreme case I can think of: NVMe M.2 SSD + PCIe Card (in PCIEX16_1) with four NVMe M.2 SSDs in RAID 10 (x4x4x4x4) + a CPU with iGPU (AMD Desktop APU). And on top of all that, via the Chipset: the other NVMe M.2 SSD and another NVMe M.2 SSD on a PCIe Card (in PCIEX16_3, because PCIEX16_2 has 0/16 lanes available). So, 7 * NVMe SSD, of which only 2 goes via the Chipset. And on top of all that, 8 * SATA SSD via the Chipset (with or without RAID). Or similar thing with a CPU without iGPU + 1-slot GPU (like Nvidia Quadro) in PCIEX16_3, via the Chipset. In case your Motherboard happens to allow such configuration. Like Asus X570-E does, for example. Even though it's called a Gaming Motherboard. Well, at least in theory it does... In other words I haven't ever tested anything even close to that. Currently I need to choose either PCIe 4.0 x16 or PCIe 4.0 x8 for my gaming GPU. At least in case of Radeon 5700 XT, it doesn't really matter. But perhaps in the future, with much faster GPU, it does.
Hmm, any reason you dropped the X570 Unify? Thought they both (Unify and Aorus Master) are pretty similar and isn't the Unify even a bit better with memory 5000 to 4400.
A little late but would like to know too. Would you pick the x570 Taichi over the x570 Unify? I want the B550 Unify X but the coil whine problems have scared me off a little.
For 128GB 4x32GB Ryzen systems, it is ever worth doing more than XMP? Also it looks like the Crucial kit you recommended only comes in 2x32 configs. It's difficult to find any information on working 128GB Ryzen configs. I know quad rank is terrible on Ryzen but some projects actually need the ram! Threadrippers are so expensive...
For the B550 Pro v.2, they at least list that exact kit as supported in a 4 dimm configuration. I guess there's no guarantees about what performance you get, but it's better than nothing.
The B550 Unify has shit QA, I got 3 of them and had to return all 3 due to VRM issues (it's a known issue). The X570 Taichi is nice, but I wouldnt say its great for memory OC. I now have a B550XE and it works like a charm. Managed to get my hands on a 4000Mhz C16 BDie kit, and my 5800X ran the XMP profile without any issues.
What more can you hope to get than 4000Mhz IF and ram speeds? This runs perfectly stable on my Dark Hero with an x5950/Samsung 4000Mhz b-die mem kit. Afaik that's basically as far as IF will go anyway. Or can B550 push this meaningfully higher with BCLK?
Also as a side-note. I have an x570 Aorus Master because of the PCI-e config and the feature-set. My brother has a B-550 Aorus Master because it was on clearance at Microcenter. I was and to get the x570 master very close to the b550 in stable dailyable settings, but I had to do A LOT of tinkering. There’s also a weird thing where the performance of the x570 w/ a CPU and 3 m.2 seems to be affected by where you put the USBs at. I wonder if it has anything to do with that USB dropout people talk about. I know with the x570 board, each new BIOS released seems to either keep things the same or make them better. Which is counter to what you’ve said in the past, but I’m assuming it’s just an exception. M.2s are really popular for people like me because they’re low-hassle, and you stick it on the board, and it just works kind of deal. No awkward cable management (which gets dicey when you want to populate a fuckton of fanslots). You want a new case, or to run your PC open-air for a bit because you’re busy modding something you’re going to swap out? your drives stay on there. It’s weird being on the most enthusiast end of the normie spectrum. On one hand you want performance, but on the other you have to consider other normie stuff x570 AoMa has been pretty fucking great.
the recommendation to have 2 ram sticks instead of 4 was good for the ryzen 3000 like the 3950x, while for the ryzen 5000 series such as the 5950x, 4 ram sticks instead of 2 increase performance apparently. i moved from the 3950x to the 5950x and it seems more stable with 4 ram sticks of Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz, cl 18, 128gb (4x32). I could not find the cl16 version.
@@madd5 $800. I managed to get one off Amazon. Now the mobo + RAM is gonna cost another grand.
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@@madd5 hey bro why didn't he included dark hero and hero in the video? and why he include b550 pro v2 over b550 gaming edge?can you explain me which is better msi b550 boards orr gigabyte b550 boards or asus?
hi Buildzoid, I have two sets of Patriot 4400 CL19 kits (cause they're so cheap!) to run with a 5950x. I understand running xmp is a no-go, but what frequency and timings should I be aiming for? Edit question: How badly does my Asus x570-F (yea I know it's a dumb board but it came through a bundle deal) hinder me tightening the timings?
Also have 2 of these kits. I have them running 3800 CL14 at 1.49v on a Tomahawk X570. Any higher gives WHEA errors. If you can boot 3800 and are WHEA free (try it at CL18 first to check if it boots and if you're WHEA free) that will likely be the max. I had to buy another set and bin the sticks to do CL14 though, initially one stick was holding me back at 3800 CL16 for the set of 4. Sold the two worst sticks. Individually all the sticks I kept do 4400 CL16 at 1.5v, but as a set its max 4200. But thats with FCLK/BLCK not 1:1 (just wanted to check). Shame we cant do FCLK 2000 1:1 on Zen3 right :(((. Thats why I bought these sticks initially last november when Zen3 came out. I even had 3 different 5900X CPU's and one 5800X in my board to check if I could run higher FCLK. All failed at exactly the same point of 1900 FCLK. Starting to think its the board (bios/agesa/X570) and not the CPU's Infinity fabric......
Have the board with a 5900x - PBO on with a 4.55 all core OC that kicks in roughly when more the 6 to 7 cores are maxed (took a few weeks to figure it out and fine tune). Over all, I love it - RAM is stable at 3800 CL14 1.5v and I can actually get my CPU to 4.7 but it burns up at 85°+ and I like to stay around 75° or lower. I will say this, my buddy has the 5950x and the Dark Hero and it seems to have more headroom then my 5900x on the same board.
@@phillipschulte-hordelhoff4261 I switched from x570 Aorus Master to Dark Hero two months ago (using 5950x). Had some issues with stability on master but after updating to new AGESA Bioses that should fix USB issues and Zen 3 cache latencies, it went from bad to ugly. With Aorus RTX 3080 Eagle in 1st slot I was getting often either black screen or nvidia driver crashing and time from time it refused boot from SSD. After switching to Dark Hero I had black screen once and driver crash two times in two months period and I know driver crash was related to specific app running as it didn't crash with application stopped. (tried two different Master boards, same behavior) Now Master is in my wife build, with 5800x and non gigabyte RTX 2060, so far running fine. Unlike most other x570 motherboards Dark Hero have passive chipset cooling, improved VRM and memory frequencies. Its also only motherboard that support something called Dynamic OC which improves multicore boost without sacrificing single core boost and as per info, it suppose to stay limited to Dark Hero motherboards.
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@@phillipschulte-hordelhoff4261 is the dark hero best?or there is other board which can dethrone it?
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@@pavelgajdik7486 which is better according to you aorus master or dark hero?I am new to pc tech so I don't know much.
As an Aorus X570 Master user, I would say this board is quite good if: 1. You can accept the BIOS layout of Gigabyte. The way things are arranged are awful to me. The MSI BIOS layout is so much better and accessible. 2. There is no video output for this board. iGPU wouldn't work. In my opinion, the Asrock X570 Taichi is a better all rounder.
is it harder to overclock those 3200mhz to 3600mhz to get same tight timings ?? or is it easier to only tighten the timings on those 3600mhz CL14 to get better performance ??
I have a 3900x on a b570 Master board I put together last year. I told my wife it was fast. Last week I put a 5950x on a b550 Unify-x board. It is a really hot combo! 64GB RAM. I told my wife it's fast, she said the last was fast. That was fast like a Corvette, this is fast like a Maserati. Thanks for all the tips dude!
I’ve managed to get RIPJAWS V 64GB 3600, CL 14 14 14 34 Quad Running with 3950X on ASUS ProArt , took lots of stick/socket/controller training but I got it going, also light OC to 3708, at first with all RAM plugged in it would just not post, got it in the end and it’s been stable 48 hours long now so I think I got lucky 🍀
All the x570/b550 aorus master boards seem to have a bunch of reviews saying it just dies some day, on newegg and amazon. Seems very worrying to me considering no other board seems to have that issue but somehow this one board does in both chipset variants. B550 Taichi is also just a better AND cheaper X570 Taichi. Better blck b550 ocing, better PWM controller, better mosfets, 2 addition soc stages, displayport (two points making it better as a apu board), 2.5Gb (like you said), additional usb3 header, additional fan header, and additional 5v rgb header. X570 Taichi, and all of asrock's other x570 don't seem to have newer revisions, or at least they're completely unlabeled and there's no way to tell them apart besides looking up the traces. There's not much reason to get the X570 taichi when the b550 taichi exists, unless those pcie lanes or that one additional m.2 slot mean a lot to you.
I'm currently running 32GB (2x16GB) of Crucial 3600 CL16 at XMP on a 3400g / MSI x570 Gaming Plus (yeah yeah I know the VRM is crap on this board, but I don't overclock these days). I've also got a 16GB (2x8GB) kit of the same stuff, identical XMP timings just single rank Rev-E instead of dual. I was thinking of running all 4 sticks as 48GBs in a triple-rank configuration after I eventually swap out this 3400g for something with Zen3 when prices hopefully come down a bit later in the year. Any oddities you can think of that I might run into when running such a configuration?
what memory kit would you recommend for a b350 board running a 1800x . running an older 2666 kit now on 2800 speed with low timings. but with all those 3600 kits I'm lost . i know I might have to turn the speed down . but is it still better for timings? i mean will a 3600 kit cl 16 run 3200 cl 14 for example ? I'm no expert , my knowledge is basic.
ok now I have a question so when I adopted I made a comment mistake and bought high speed memory just to find out my cpu IF is rubbish and is just about OK at 3600mhz even tho my ram kit is a 4600 18 22 22 48 I think ether way gskills anyhow the xmp never worked and was wrong via bios for ages so I did that all manually and I run them happy and stable at 3600 1:1 at 14 14 14 28 and some secoundarys crunched down if I put the same kit in so I'm running 2 sets /4 dimes it won't work anywhere close to those settings cos it's using 4 dimes ? also so if I did some thing crazy like bought a 3600 cl 14 kit that would also brake the set up ?
I ask this as does this mean if I wanted 32gigs I ether have to buy a new full kit or run terrible timings and have much lower bandwidths which makes it pointless almost ? if you find the time buildz I'd like to hear back as your a grate help to the community when regarding oc also my mb is a gigabyte pro rev 1 x570
Gigabyte x570 pro massive vdroop(3%) even with highest llc setting(turbo), also BCLK always hover around 99mhz. Is it normal? Should i upgrade? processor is 5900x.
Turbo is not highest llc setting. At least on B550 pro. There are two higher ultra and extreme (unless they added those two in comparison to x570). And btw vdroop is quite desirable for overclocking CPU. Go and watch AHOC videos about it. For BCLK at least on B550 you have to set manually Infinity Fabric clock (and disable spread spectrum) to get 100 MHz.
What do you find is the most common reason to not being able to hit 1900FCLK? 5950x, x570 Aorus Master, TridentZ Neo 3800CL14. Like you mentioned 1900 will just not boot. Any tips to getting a boost in FCLK? or does it come down to the individual CPU or MB just not being up to the task? Thanks for the video!
What’s the primary difference between the Aorus Master and the Aorus Xtreme? Is there a reason to go one for the other? (Not taking price into consideration)
The Xtreme looks amazing, probably the best looking mb I’ve ever seen, but obviously that’s subjective. No chipset fan, a couple more USB ports and details like connector orientation. Now, I have the Master and I’ve never heard the fan, even after turning everything off and putting my ear against it. And half my USB ports are empty. But I’ve always wanted to get the Xtreme because of the killer looks, of course I won’t because it’s not worth the extra $. If money was no issue I would have bought it instead of the Master, it’s that gorgeous.
Question: What about QVL's. For my B550I Aorus Pro AX, the QVL ist just shitty...CL14 Memory? Just some non-existing ADATA RAM...and so many Quad-Kits in the QVL on a 2-Slot Board...
for 2x16gb for cheap performance get crucial ballistic 3200cl16 (micron e-die); i run 1900mhz fclk 1:1:1 on both my past 3950x and now the 5950x. 150eur you can't go wrong
So even if I use 2 dimms and reasonably oc them I can still use them with the Master x570 and just leave those 2 slots empty. My goal is max exploit of IF... which is 3866ish? Question is I'd like to have 64gb in my system for longevity (on a 5950x). but rumours here and there are 32gb sticks are more difficult to oc. Could I ever reach 3866ish ( if cpu permits) with a 2x32gb?
How do you feel about the x570 ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero motherboard for Ryzen 5950x? If you had these two, what specific RAM and cpu fan would you recommend?
I'm having trouble overclocking with the B550 Unify X. I had a B550 Aorus Pro AC and was able to overlcok my Patriot Viper 4000mhz 2x8 b-die to 3800cl14 but I cant do it with this Unify X. It would boot on the Unify X but it would BSD when I ran Aida or TestMem or any other applications. I used the same ram timings as I did for the Aorus Pro AC with the same ram timings of 14-15-8-12-28-40 but don't know why it wont work on the Unify X. I have a 5800X3D. Can you please help? Any suggestions?
Question BZ, What are your current thoughts on the B550 Unify-X? People are saying it's inconsistent and some of them such as mem OC and that I should not buy it if I can't get it binned? It fits more or less what I want to try and play with but I csnt afford to buy a few and bin to sell the bad ones. Is this a real concern or?
I'm going to ask the maybe stupid question but I have 2 sticks of Viper steels 4000 CL19 (PVS416G400C9K), running at 3800 CL16, on a 5600x , would it be a bad idea to try to get 2 more sticks to get 32gb of ram?
Okay Buildzoid I have small question. When I build one year ago my new pc, tryed so hard to buy G.Skill TridentZ Royal 3600 mhz CL14 in Central Europe where am I. That didn't happen so I searched specifically for B-Die kits. I managed to get a dual 8gb Corsair Dominator Platinium 3600 CL16 which apparently is worse B-Die on the market but still. Please tell me if Typhoon confirms that those are Samsung B-Die, they should be easy to OC with my Ryzen 3 3300x placed on Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Formula. Why they basically don't go more than stock D.O.C.P.?
Oh by the way I subscribed to your channel almost 2 years so I watched many, many, many videos with you doing OC DDR4 sticks. I feel quiet sure how to do it following your steps🙂. But still mine Dominator's they don't boot after slightly changing settings other than D.O.C.P. Can you give me some advice, please? I can write serial numbers if you want... P.S. As always I left a like as a thanks for all job you doing 😉
I've got some experience with two separate MSI B550 Unify (not the Unify-X), and both of them have suffered from very loud VRM coil whine, a quick search shows several forum threads with people complaining about similar issues too, so if you're planning on getting Unify or Unify-X it's probably worth keeping this in mind. On the other hand, both Unify and -X versions are deeply discounted right now in the UK (they're about 50 quid cheaper than the B550 Aorus Master as of June 10th) so if you're after a decent deal and are not too bothered by VRM noise, it might be worth picking it up.
Coil wine in aida test is fun on the X but since running custom bios and turning down edc my board stopped wining but the first run it was like a bee got in the window
@@hannahtimson2526 Yes I have a similar experience with Aida benchmark (memory and cache), it's pretty repeatable & reproducable as well, starting a Memory Copy bench has the coils singing. Could you share your EDC settings and maybe more details on your custom BIOS? I've had to tighten the retention screws on the VRM backplate, which helped with the noise a little bit, but didn't eliminate it
@ When did I ever say the Unify was bad? The Unify/Unify-X has the most overbuilt VRM of ANY B550 boards from any of the major OEMs. There's no objective 'best' board, do your research regarding price points/features/VRM specs and choose one that best fit your needs. MSI and Asus both makes amazing boards and garbage boards. So does Gigabyte and ASRock. TLDR: No such thing as 'best board', go do your own reading, watch some reviews and determine what's best for your own usage, nobody can make that decision for you.
@ If you REALLY want to see a well-rounded cross-section of recommendation, watch the summary section of this video th-cam.com/video/VUwjxNEe26I/w-d-xo.html (from 2:05:00 onwards), where he makes multiple recommendations from a range of OEMs, highlighting the feature set/pricing pros/cons of each of his choice. I am not really seeing this 'mostly you saw buildzoid recommending Gigabyte motherboard in the B550 series' that you're talking about. He's stated multiple times that the MSI Unify-X is great for VRM/MemOC, Asus TUF for generally well-rounded featureset and price, GB Aorus Master/Asus Crosshair if you have plenty of cash to splash about and don't care about value for price... I don't see any overall propensity on him to universally recommend Gigabyte boards over others. He's almost always very clear about the reason he likes a particular board. Actually watch the videos and pick out the factors that is specifically important to you (is it VRM? Memory layout? Rear panel I/O? 5/10GBit ports? M.2 slots?) Pick your poison.
Hey, my buddy has a problem with his RAM for 5950X (G.Skill Ripjaw 4000mhz CL16 32 GB), it only does 2133MHz (1064.5), all XMP profiles are unstable. Could you explain how to set it up? Can it work at the recommended 3600 MHz?
5950x + Asus WS Pro ACE x570 + 2x32GB Kingston ECC @ 3200Mhz here.. surprised to not see this board on here but.. I read it was a slightly older design or something.. been stable for my needs so far running Ubuntu on the NVME and a Windows SSD swappable on boot up to game.
So what is the worse that can happen if I have an Asrock B550M-ITX with a 8 Phase (3+3) + 2 SOC paired up with the 5950X and a 3090 and Trident Z Neo (2x16) B-Die?
I bought the patriot viper steel 4x8 4000mhz CL19. For my motherboard msi mag b550 tomahawk atx am4 and I have a ryzen 5600x. I don’t know much about overclocking ram but what can I do to be able to run stable at xmp or close to that?
I'm guessing you are also ok with the RGB version of Crucial Ballistix RGB BL2K32G36C16U4BL 3600 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 64GB (32GB x2), CL16, Black?
I already have a set of the g.skill F4-3600C16D-16GVKC 2x8 GB that i bought 8 months ago, would you recommend me buying another set of the same kit, or getting rid of the kit i have and get the 4x8gb kit they sell? .btw i have the b550 aorus pro v2
My computer will randomly shut off completely with ASUS X570-E Gaming and the 5950X paired with RTX 3090FE. This is with Gskill Neo with Samsung B-Die @3600MHz CAS16(2x16GB) and Seasonic Prime T-850 Titanium. However this will only happen while playing Cyberpunk 2077 or Battlefield V on max @ 4K. For anything else works fine. I’m looking at these videos to see what would be more stable in my case. Learning a lot. Thank you.
So just a question about the MSI Meg Unify-X. If I wanted to get it and get a sabrent rocket gen4 m.2 for my bootdrive and another sabrent rocket gen4 for gaming. Would they both run just fine? Or would I have to get a sata ssd for my games?
WOW incredibly descriptive, I loved it, More, more, more please. I've been looking for a motherboard and Processor like a Ryzen 7 5800X or (really leaning towards) 5900X. I was seriously looking at ASRock X570 Tiachi. After your review and some insight, I believe MSI MEG B550 UNIFY X might be it if I can find one. I was on the right track for ram and bought G.SKILL Ripjaw V32 GB (2X16) DDR4 3600 but didn't realize the CL was 16 until now hope their ok. P.S. I "Subscribed", "Clicked the Bell" and chose "All" to get every video.
I bought 2 sets of G.Skill Flare X 16GB (2x8GB) 3200 C14. Planned to OC to 3600 C14 or C16 FCLK 1800. Is that possible? According to your video it would be terrible, close to impossible. Please advise.
using msi x570 gaming plus with 5950x , it was working perfectly , yesterday it is stuck on cpu redlight ( i checked processor , ram , graphic on other board they are fine but having issue on board) can any one help?
Had to indeed tinker a lot to make my 4x8 Viper Steels work with my x570 Unify and 5900X. The XMP never booted, and FCLK 2000 wouldn't boot until a way later version of AGESA. Passing TM5 stability but with way too many errors. They're fine at 3666 14 and/or 3833 16. Still hoping that 4000 will be achievable someday
4000 is a bitch to get stable 4400cl9 steels wouldnt do it but teamgroup 3600cl14 can but it needs a lot of soc and soc related setting plus a few ram timings tricks. ccd/iod tuneing is a must
@@hannahtimson2526 I can't get a stable 4000 with the soc at 1.2 and IOD/CCD at 1.150. With the DDR at 1.5 obviously. My windows event logger would just implose with 150 erroes a minutes lmao
The b550 taichi has 2*m.2 slot
Apparently it does. Oh well the board it's replacing is the B550 vision-D which is getting really expensive and hard to find. I wouldn't recommend a B550 Master to anyone who wants to OC. The B550-E is similar in features to the Taichi but the Taichi is better equipped for RAM OC.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking no u had mistakenly said that it had 3 so I pointed out it
@@mainly_dyutish9 yeah I'm agreeing with you. I made a mistake about how many M.2s it has. I'm just also explaining why I wouldn't remove the board from the list anyway since there aren't really any better alternatives to the B550 Taichi.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Taichi has consistent issues with mem even on the new topology. I’ve worked with about a half dozen people on OC discord who’ve had extreme difficulty with the board. The only thing I didn’t extensively test regarding the issues was termination, namely the ODT impedance. Assuming that wasn’t the cause of the issues, I’m personally hesitant to recommend the board for memory OC.
@@arshiasoleimany4509 when is part 2 for case reviews
TIMESTAMPS:
0:01 - Intro
MOTHERBOARDS
0:40 - MSI MEG B550 Unify-X
4:31 - Gigabyte X570 Auros Master
8:13 - ASRock X570 Taichi
11:29 - ASRock B55 Taichi
13:27 - Gigabyte B550 Auros Pro V2
EXPENSIVE KITS
15:39 - G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600 C14
18:09 - G.Skill Trident Z NEO / Z RGB / Z Royal 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600 C14
20:12 - Crucial Ballistix 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3600 C16
AFFORDABLE OC-KITS
22:50 - G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 C14
23:05 - G.Skill Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 C14
BUDGET KITS
24:22 - Crucial Ballistix 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 C16
Not all heros wear capes.
What about... G Skill Trident Neo 32GB (2*16gb) 3800mhz/ CL 14? On Motherboard like Aorus X570 Master. Will be ok?
Thank you
@@bansterref You're welcome!
00:00 - Intro
MOTHERBOARDS
00:39 - MSI B550 UNIFY-X (aside from memory overclocking, also applies to non-X)
04:25 - X570 BCLK Limitations
05:54 - Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master ("expensive, all-around motherboard")
08:13 - Asrock X570 Taichi ("the everything motherboard" non-oc feature-wise)
11:28 - Asrock B550 Taichi ("interesting alternative to the X570 board if you'd like to save a bit of money and maybe get somewhat better overclocking")
13:25 - Gigabyte B550 Aorus PRO V2 ("the cost effective option", "strong memory overclocker", "same VRM as X570 Taichi")
MEMORY KITS
15:26 - G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB DDR4-3600 CL14 ("strong Samsung B-die bin", good for intro to manual oc or set and forget XMP)
18:00 - RGB flavours of the same kit (Trident Z Neo, Trident Z, Trident Z Royal in Silver, Trident Z Royal in Gold)
20:09 - Crucial Ballistix 2x32GB DDR4-3200 CL16 ("as high performance as it gets for 32GB DIMMs")
22:47 - G.Skill Ripjaws V (and Flare X/Trident Z) 2x16GB DDR4-3200 CL14 ("cost-effective B-die kit", "terrible at [XMP]")
24:18 - Crucial Ballistix 2x8GB DDR4-3600 CL16 and G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB DDR4-3600 CL16 ("'I don't care about overclocking but I want good performance' kits")
Also includes tangent into practicality of doubling up on two DIMM kits
27:27 - Closing comments/Outro
Thank you very much for this
I got 4x8gb Patriot Viper Steel 4000 C19 and damn I am glad I listened to you. With them it made memory overclocking a lott less painful because basically anything I typed in worked andwould stay stable. Thanks for showing me a kick ass memory kit for cheap.
which mobo you running?
I mod my PCIe covers to add extra buttons such as Clear CMOS and my case didn’t have a reset switch and I have added a power button in parallel to case one and mounted it on my desk
My Favorite PCB and Bdie education channel. 🧠 ❤️
P.S thank you so much for informing us about the additional discrepancy between x570 base clock issues, I was about to get a x570 for some hobby OC, 😅 phew.i wasn't aware of this.
Thank you very much for this. I am an enthusiast who likes to tinker with their daily setups and learn hardcore overclocking because it fascinates me and indirectly teaches me about the hardware and the physics/engineering behind high-performing hardware.
But having high-end dailyable set-ups is perfect content for me, and I think a lot of people. Also, using your power-plane cooling idea (not fool cooling, but basic heatsink and fan) did increase performance by a measurable amount on a 5900x.
What mobo are you using ?
Bought my MSI MEG ACE X570 for MAX OC based on AHO's review, and I'm a VERY happy Ryzen 3900X user!
This is consistently the best series of overviews, great work.
20:10 "If you want 64 Gigs of RAM. This, just get this." Bought the Ballistix 64 GB kit because of the capacity, awesome to hear him recommend it, makes me want to buy another kit.
if only you could
I have the "avoid" B450 Gaming F from Asus and it's running 2000 FCLK on the 5600X quite ok, I just had to bump the four voltages that dram calculator recommends you use, and just a tad over that recommended value for three of them. I did experience some USB reconnecting issues like Ryzen does, like you said that is unstable infinity fabric, so I bumped up those four voltages and now it's running ok. No memory errors on 4000 CL 16, overclocked 3200 CL14 Flare X. I could not get CL 14 to work on 4000 yet. Thanks for creating this channel, I have learned a lot from it. Good luck with your XOC endeavors! I am currently building a custom water loop for the 5600X. Why? Because I want to overclock the snot out of it, and maybe get a 5800X in the future.
I'm feeling better about my Aorus B550Pro AC (V1.3) and 5900X build after seeing this. Thank you.
Biggest drawback from B550 is ONLY 1 Gen4 SSD capability.
I had a heck of a time finding a 64gb kit for the x570 Taichi. The crucial ballistix 2x32 cl16 was finally the answer and runs 1900:3800 on a 3900xt. It hated 4x16 3200 cl14 and was never even quite stable with a 3x32 garbage lpx 3200 cl16.
Similar issue on the b550 Taichi: Tried 4x 16gb gskill 3600 cl 16 (b-die) sticks and was not even able to run them at 1600:3200. Would have needed to go down to 1500:3000 so I returned them and went with 2x 16 gb gskill 3600 cl 14. That works flawless. 4x sticks seems to be too hard for most b550/x570 boards.
I run 4x16 micron rev-e 3200 cl16 at 3600 cl16, just had to bump trcd from 18 to 20. I also tested 4x16 micron rev-b 3200 cl16, that set worked at 3600, but at cl18 trcd 20. This is on a “pre-b550 times” release x570 Taichi
10:01 On the ASRock X570 Taichi board, I believe the 3rd m.2 only shares PCIe lanes with the bottom PCIe x4 slot, so you should be able to run 8 SATA drives and 3 m.2s if you wanted, and give up the bottom PCIe slot (if I'm reading the manual correctly. ASRock doesn't have a nice storage compatibility chart like gigabyte or ASUS).
Thanks for the great video as always Buildzoid. Nice to have a great summary video like this. Helped me makes my final purchasing decisions.
I got the unify-x a while back on your recommendation, its great on custom bios for the 5950x ram oc etc, having fun with ram
BZ conforming to the 29 min algorithm preference.
The Asrock x570 Taichi allows you run 3 x M.2 and all 8 SATA ports at the same time, I've been running it like this since buying it about 1.5 years ago. If using the 3rd M.2 you lose pci slot 5. its a choice between the two. Its been a really great board.
Unfortunately my 5900x is limited to 1866fclk, so I ended up selling my 2x16 b-die and getting that 2x32 rev b ballistix kit... it was basically an even trade for double the capacity. They both run 3733 cl14 and while the timings don't generally play as nice, it's really not that big of a deficit. Highly recommended for anyone looking for higher capacities.
so, in simple english, what ram would you suggest? i dont speak hacker language lol
Got 5950x back in February with B550 Unify(non-x) with 4x8Gb Viper steels 4400cl19 following your PCB review. What a great memory for it's price,currently daily driving 3800 cl14 at 1.5V in 1:1, beast for daily PC.
@super hessu Not sure about Intel, but SoC and DDR voltages are separate things, as far as I know it's shouldn't do any harm to cpu itself,also I got a fan directly on top of my RAM in case,so both should be safe
@super hessu I know what IMC is, and those concerns is here from around when DDR4 was released. I know many people that running 1.5 daily for 3+ years without any signs of degradation on both ram and CPU whatsoever.I can't say that it's absolutely safe, but people run it at 1.5 for whole DDR4 lifecycle without any major sings of CPU failing, so I'm willing to take the risk)
@@SovietN1nja Just out of curiosity how did u get a fan over your ram? Is it like an addon fan or what case are you using? I know its not necessary if im below 1.5v but i kind of want to do it anyway?
@@LordBattleSmurf it's just a case fans, but they blow on the RAM directly.It's Lian LI Lancool 2 Mesh Performance,top and front 140mm fans create very good airflow in the RAM area.
@buildzoid. You mentioned 4 stick DDR4 being horrible? why? what's the tech limitation that's causing this? I have 4 sticks (8 GB) of B-die and on my Aorus X570 Aorus Elite Wifi, I can't even enable XMP which was 3600-CL18-19-19-39-58 older Coasair Vengeance (with just white LED lights). The best I could do with my 4 stick is 3400 CL14-15-15-31-48. 33 MHz over 3400 will result in mobo not even POST regardless of voltage adjustments on b-die or mem controller on my Ryzen 5900x.
No mention of the Patriot Viper RAM? WHY? Weren't those your favorite memory to OC?
I still have a x470 aorus gaming 7 and planning on upgrading to a 5950x. Thanks for the time and effort doing this video about the 5950x
just understand that he's competitive overclock biased not quite daily driven focused, you will 100% crash and all the time if you try high frequency memory clocks and overclocking costs too much in power on a 5950x I own a 5950x and owned previously a threadripper 3960x, even If I managed to overclock it constantly switching between games, video encoding, work, idle surfing watching movies etc.. it will crash and hardcore, it's not blue screen intel, the computer straight shuts down and will corrupt whatever was opened, it destroyed several game saves, something that never happened to me with intel (or ryzen 3000 threadripper now that I think of it) I'm running 3600 like he recommends, on a supposedly 4000Ghz kit I can benchmark at 3800/1900 fine but as soon as I try real use it crashes (it's the transitions between multi core to higher ghz higher voltage single core use that's problematic for me)
Isn’t that board running on T-topology?
@@fredEVOIX My 5950x works without issue on my Crosshair VIII. 3600Mhz Ram. There is something up with your system.
I find the x570 dark hero to be a good step up from the x570 master I get a bit better memory O/C as well as far less annoying quirks (ie my board not turning on every week or two unless I pull the battery for 5min). Also I really think for a high end gaming setup the b550 master is a fantastic board. Really good vrm and great feature set, yes the dual bios is kind of odd but that really does not come up unless you are really giving it.
I run both X570 Dark Hero and B550 Unify-X. I prefer the Unify-X and would recommend over the Dark Hero. If you overclock that is especially on the RAM side of things.
Are you not doing videos for Gamers Nexus Now? Just wanted to know
second this - maybe they parted ways after the little "drama" that happened?
@@Drestlin Yeah..Looks that way
Can you make a ryzen 5 series pbo overclocking video? Tia
yes please
On the ASRock X570 Taichi (Razer Edition) the only compromise is that you have to choose if you want to use the third M.2 slot, coming from the chipset or the regular chipset PCIe slot. The 8 x SATA always works.
(Source: Me and a personal system 🙃)
Can you do a video on recommended ITX motherboards for the 5950x?
Please BZ, I'd like to build a water cooled small form factor and overclock, Idk which boards are actually best.
th-cam.com/video/S_FUe36jHaw/w-d-xo.html
21:51
@@everope let me help you out homie: th-cam.com/video/S_FUe36jHaw/w-d-xo.html
@@Wasmachineman dank je, link met tijdcode pakken werkt niet op mobiel
Go for aorus b550i he said it in the gammer Nexus b550 video
All these boards offering 2.5 GbE, but switches, routers etc. using it are still WAY overpriced or plain don't exist.
@@mardonram8673 It's for storage in your local network, not for going out to the WWW.
Though in some countries/regions (like Switzerland) you can get 25GBit/s fibre for just 60CHF a month, and >1GBit/s is quite common there.
@@tommihommi1 You still need a router or switch that supports it, even for the local network. An entry-level 2.5GbE switch is about $110-$150, which is kinda pricey still. 10GbE is pricier still - I think that the cheapest is Mikrotik's and you'll need to get 10G SFPs for it, for about $200 or so. Are you sure it's 25Gbit/sec in Switzelrand? Supporting that kind of speed over ethernet requires 40GbE practically, and at that point you're looking at some very pricy and hard to configure hardware (Mikrotik CRS326 and 2 QSFP+ modules will set you back nearly $500, not including the fiber optic cabling, and you need to learn SwitchOS in order to be able to configure it).
@@benjaminchung991 yes, that's what I'm saying. Many NAS can do 2.5GBit, so the only cost effective way to do it is having dual LAN on your motherboard and just connect that directly to the NAS.
@@benjaminchung991 apparently yes I was sent a link, it's recent but I was told 25Gb/s require thousand(s) of dollars entreprise hardware, you're probably right I have 10Gbit/s optic fiber myself (the router only has 1 10gbit port you need to buy a switch if you want to connect more than 1 computer) LAN and online are very different things and windows, antivirus etc.. will nerf your speed hardcore..apparently Linux users can do 8000/8000 but in win10 I go from 7000/3000 to 3000/2000 speed tests depending on the alignement of planets, my record of actual download speed is 564Mbytes/s but I had to really work for it and queue game updates from several clients, video downloads, linux isos downloads and start them all together lol took me more time to set up than to download, apparently I'm eligible for 25gbit/s lol wouldn't know what to do with it it's too fast really unless you want to "email" 4K vfx renders to a studio in hollywood lol
Howabout the gigabyte vision d-p? Just dropped on newegg. What I mean is it seems to trade little ram overclocking for more pcie slots and dual x8 pcie simultaneously/sli.
Interesting video, as always. By the way, I'm kinda mad that ASUS didn't made to your list (yeah I love ASUS, judge me) but I can see why. Also, could you post a video on overclocking with PBO2? It's quite fun and different using the curve optimiser vs all-clock overclock.
He doesn't like Asus because they limit the dram voltage. Not that a usable overclock would ever make sense with that much but ok ;)
Doesn't the VRM of the B550 Unify and Unify-X have terrible coil whine issues?
I'm using a Unify-X and I haven't been able to hear any coil whine over the sound of my fans.
B550 vs. X570 basic differences, as far as I know. For most people, all that PCIe stuff isn't important. Especially if you're just casual Gamer.
On the other hand, if you need more flexible PCIe Bifurcation with more lanes, > 128GB memory, > 2 memory channels, > 16 cores, and much higher price is acceptable, HEDT class motherboards and CPUs (like Threadripper) might be for you.
AMD B550 (Q2/2020)
* Straight to CPU: PCIe 4.0 x4 + x16
* Chipset Link: PCIe 3.0 x4 (~3.9 GB/s)
* All other PCIe is maximum 3.0, including NVMe M.2
* PCIe general purpose lanes: PCIe 3.0 x10 (9.9 GB/s).
* Cheaper
* Newer -> possibly better memory OC(?) and newer QVL
* Much better BCLK Overclocking (even up to ~120 MHz)
* No Chipset Fan.
AMD X570 (Q3/2019)
* Straight to CPU: PCIe 4.0 x4 + x16 (same)
* Chipset Link: PCIe 4.0 x4 (~7.9 GB/s) (double)
* All other PCIe & NVMe M.2 can be 4.0. (double)
* PCIe general purpose lanes: PCIe 4.0 x16 (31.5 GB/s) (triple).
* No/minimal BCLK Overclocking (~102 MHz)
* Chipset Fan (almost always), unless it's the new 'X570S'.
Usually that "x4 + x16" means NVMe M.2 SSD + GPU, both straight to the CPU.
Rest of the traffic - with few exceptions, depending on your HW - goes via the Chipset: PCIe, NVMe M.2, SATA, USB, LAN, Wi-Fi...
But it could also be, in the most extreme case I can think of: NVMe M.2 SSD + PCIe Card (in PCIEX16_1) with four NVMe M.2 SSDs in RAID 10 (x4x4x4x4) + a CPU with iGPU (AMD Desktop APU).
And on top of all that, via the Chipset: the other NVMe M.2 SSD and another NVMe M.2 SSD on a PCIe Card (in PCIEX16_3, because PCIEX16_2 has 0/16 lanes available). So, 7 * NVMe SSD, of which only 2 goes via the Chipset. And on top of all that, 8 * SATA SSD via the Chipset (with or without RAID).
Or similar thing with a CPU without iGPU + 1-slot GPU (like Nvidia Quadro) in PCIEX16_3, via the Chipset. In case your Motherboard happens to allow such configuration. Like Asus X570-E does, for example. Even though it's called a Gaming Motherboard.
Well, at least in theory it does... In other words I haven't ever tested anything even close to that. Currently I need to choose either PCIe 4.0 x16 or PCIe 4.0 x8 for my gaming GPU. At least in case of Radeon 5700 XT, it doesn't really matter. But perhaps in the future, with much faster GPU, it does.
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Hmm, any reason you dropped the X570 Unify? Thought they both (Unify and Aorus Master) are pretty similar and isn't the Unify even a bit better with memory 5000 to 4400.
A little late but would like to know too. Would you pick the x570 Taichi over the x570 Unify? I want the B550 Unify X but the coil whine problems have scared me off a little.
For 128GB 4x32GB Ryzen systems, it is ever worth doing more than XMP? Also it looks like the Crucial kit you recommended only comes in 2x32 configs. It's difficult to find any information on working 128GB Ryzen configs.
I know quad rank is terrible on Ryzen but some projects actually need the ram! Threadrippers are so expensive...
For the B550 Pro v.2, they at least list that exact kit as supported in a 4 dimm configuration. I guess there's no guarantees about what performance you get, but it's better than nothing.
I realy enjoy learning from u
The info that b550 chip is better in overclocking than x570 is a piece of info u dont get from any one
The B550 Unify has shit QA, I got 3 of them and had to return all 3 due to VRM issues (it's a known issue). The X570 Taichi is nice, but I wouldnt say its great for memory OC. I now have a B550XE and it works like a charm. Managed to get my hands on a 4000Mhz C16 BDie kit, and my 5800X ran the XMP profile without any issues.
Absolutely true, it's vrm coil whining issue.just posted new comment
What more can you hope to get than 4000Mhz IF and ram speeds? This runs perfectly stable on my Dark Hero with an x5950/Samsung 4000Mhz b-die mem kit. Afaik that's basically as far as IF will go anyway. Or can B550 push this meaningfully higher with BCLK?
I'm running X570 ACE, 2x16 4000CL16 skill running 3800CL14
X570 is counterproductive for memory OC?! Is that why I've stuggled to get high freq ram to post on my X570 Taichi?!
22:15 [laughs in 4x16 3200 CL14 B-die on his 3950X]
😥
Also as a side-note. I have an x570 Aorus Master because of the PCI-e config and the feature-set. My brother has a B-550 Aorus Master because it was on clearance at Microcenter.
I was and to get the x570 master very close to the b550 in stable dailyable settings, but I had to do A LOT of tinkering.
There’s also a weird thing where the performance of the x570 w/ a CPU and 3 m.2 seems to be affected by where you put the USBs at. I wonder if it has anything to do with that USB dropout people talk about. I know with the x570 board, each new BIOS released seems to either keep things the same or make them better. Which is counter to what you’ve said in the past, but I’m assuming it’s just an exception.
M.2s are really popular for people like me because they’re low-hassle, and you stick it on the board, and it just works kind of deal. No awkward cable management (which gets dicey when you want to populate a fuckton of fanslots). You want a new case, or to run your PC open-air for a bit because you’re busy modding something you’re going to swap out? your drives stay on there.
It’s weird being on the most enthusiast end of the normie spectrum. On one hand you want performance, but on the other you have to consider other normie stuff
x570 AoMa has been pretty fucking great.
the recommendation to have 2 ram sticks instead of 4 was good for the ryzen 3000 like the 3950x, while for the ryzen 5000 series such as the 5950x, 4 ram sticks instead of 2 increase performance apparently. i moved from the 3950x to the 5950x and it seems more stable with 4 ram sticks of Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz, cl 18, 128gb (4x32). I could not find the cl16 version.
I was literally just looking at boards for the CPU I managed to finally get, thanks!
how much did you pay for 5950x? :)
@@madd5 $800. I managed to get one off Amazon. Now the mobo + RAM is gonna cost another grand.
@@madd5 hey bro why didn't he included dark hero and hero in the video? and why he include b550 pro v2 over b550 gaming edge?can you explain me which is better msi b550 boards orr gigabyte b550 boards or asus?
hi Buildzoid, I have two sets of Patriot 4400 CL19 kits (cause they're so cheap!) to run with a 5950x. I understand running xmp is a no-go, but what frequency and timings should I be aiming for?
Edit question: How badly does my Asus x570-F (yea I know it's a dumb board but it came through a bundle deal) hinder me tightening the timings?
Also have 2 of these kits. I have them running 3800 CL14 at 1.49v on a Tomahawk X570. Any higher gives WHEA errors. If you can boot 3800 and are WHEA free (try it at CL18 first to check if it boots and if you're WHEA free) that will likely be the max. I had to buy another set and bin the sticks to do CL14 though, initially one stick was holding me back at 3800 CL16 for the set of 4. Sold the two worst sticks. Individually all the sticks I kept do 4400 CL16 at 1.5v, but as a set its max 4200. But thats with FCLK/BLCK not 1:1 (just wanted to check). Shame we cant do FCLK 2000 1:1 on Zen3 right :(((. Thats why I bought these sticks initially last november when Zen3 came out. I even had 3 different 5900X CPU's and one 5800X in my board to check if I could run higher FCLK. All failed at exactly the same point of 1900 FCLK. Starting to think its the board (bios/agesa/X570) and not the CPU's Infinity fabric......
Interesting, no Dark Hero in the video.. that confuses me.
Yep. Disappointed he missed that one
I wonder why??
didn't exist ahah🤦♂️
Have you been able to test the Asus Dark Hero yet? Interested to find out more about the Dynamic OC Switcher feature.
I have that board...it sux...or maybe is mine 5900x a crap oc'er, still poor performance from the combo.
Have the board with a 5900x - PBO on with a 4.55 all core OC that kicks in roughly when more the 6 to 7 cores are maxed (took a few weeks to figure it out and fine tune). Over all, I love it - RAM is stable at 3800 CL14 1.5v and I can actually get my CPU to 4.7 but it burns up at 85°+ and I like to stay around 75° or lower.
I will say this, my buddy has the 5950x and the Dark Hero and it seems to have more headroom then my 5900x on the same board.
@@phillipschulte-hordelhoff4261 I switched from x570 Aorus Master to Dark Hero two months ago (using 5950x).
Had some issues with stability on master but after updating to new AGESA Bioses that should fix USB issues and Zen 3 cache latencies, it went from bad to ugly.
With Aorus RTX 3080 Eagle in 1st slot I was getting often either black screen or nvidia driver crashing and time from time it refused boot from SSD.
After switching to Dark Hero I had black screen once and driver crash two times in two months period and I know driver crash was related to specific app running as it didn't crash with application stopped. (tried two different Master boards, same behavior)
Now Master is in my wife build, with 5800x and non gigabyte RTX 2060, so far running fine.
Unlike most other x570 motherboards Dark Hero have passive chipset cooling, improved VRM and memory frequencies.
Its also only motherboard that support something called Dynamic OC which improves multicore boost without sacrificing single core boost and as per info, it suppose to stay limited to Dark Hero motherboards.
@@phillipschulte-hordelhoff4261 is the dark hero best?or there is other board which can dethrone it?
@@pavelgajdik7486 which is better according to you aorus master or dark hero?I am new to pc tech so I don't know much.
Wait, I thought Aorus Master did have dual bios? Am I understanding something wrong? I am quite new to all this
As an Aorus X570 Master user, I would say this board is quite good if:
1. You can accept the BIOS layout of Gigabyte. The way things are arranged are awful to me. The MSI BIOS layout is so much better and accessible.
2. There is no video output for this board. iGPU wouldn't work.
In my opinion, the Asrock X570 Taichi is a better all rounder.
the 5950X doesn't have an iGPU and yeah gigabyte BIOS is a bit of a mess(I still prefer it to Asrock's AMD BIOS).
is it harder to overclock those 3200mhz to 3600mhz to get same tight timings ??
or is it easier to only tighten the timings on those 3600mhz CL14 to get better performance ??
I have a 3900x on a b570 Master board I put together last year. I told my wife it was fast. Last week I put a 5950x on a b550 Unify-x board. It is a really hot combo! 64GB RAM. I told my wife it's fast, she said the last was fast. That was fast like a Corvette, this is fast like a Maserati.
Thanks for all the tips dude!
I’ve managed to get RIPJAWS V 64GB 3600, CL 14 14 14 34 Quad Running with 3950X on ASUS ProArt , took lots of stick/socket/controller training but I got it going, also light OC to 3708, at first with all RAM plugged in it would just not post, got it in the end and it’s been stable 48 hours long now so I think I got lucky 🍀
Where does the Asus x570 Crosshair VIII Hero now sit in your 5950X board ranking?
The fact that he never mentioned the dark hero means this dude has 0 idea what he's talking about
I while ago got a HX436C18FB4K4 (4x16, 1R, Micron) for the lolz, it is really fun kit to play with on Ryzen.
All the x570/b550 aorus master boards seem to have a bunch of reviews saying it just dies some day, on newegg and amazon. Seems very worrying to me considering no other board seems to have that issue but somehow this one board does in both chipset variants.
B550 Taichi is also just a better AND cheaper X570 Taichi. Better blck b550 ocing, better PWM controller, better mosfets, 2 addition soc stages, displayport (two points making it better as a apu board), 2.5Gb (like you said), additional usb3 header, additional fan header, and additional 5v rgb header. X570 Taichi, and all of asrock's other x570 don't seem to have newer revisions, or at least they're completely unlabeled and there's no way to tell them apart besides looking up the traces. There's not much reason to get the X570 taichi when the b550 taichi exists, unless those pcie lanes or that one additional m.2 slot mean a lot to you.
b550 strix f or x570 tuf gaming plus
I'm currently running 32GB (2x16GB) of Crucial 3600 CL16 at XMP on a 3400g / MSI x570 Gaming Plus (yeah yeah I know the VRM is crap on this board, but I don't overclock these days). I've also got a 16GB (2x8GB) kit of the same stuff, identical XMP timings just single rank Rev-E instead of dual. I was thinking of running all 4 sticks as 48GBs in a triple-rank configuration after I eventually swap out this 3400g for something with Zen3 when prices hopefully come down a bit later in the year. Any oddities you can think of that I might run into when running such a configuration?
lack of PCIE slots is frustrating on some boards. Aorus Master x570 does 3 m.2 and 3 slots which is a nice combo.
what memory kit would you recommend for a b350 board running a 1800x . running an older 2666 kit now on 2800 speed with low timings. but with all those 3600 kits I'm lost . i know I might have to turn the speed down . but is it still better for timings? i mean will a 3600 kit cl 16 run 3200 cl 14 for example ? I'm no expert , my knowledge is basic.
So no way to have 24 PCIe lanes and top AM4 overclocking? Cuz B550s only have 20 lanes, and to get 24 lanes you need x570?
ok now I have a question so when I adopted I made a comment mistake and bought high speed memory just to find out my cpu IF is rubbish and is just about OK at 3600mhz even tho my ram kit is a 4600 18 22 22 48 I think ether way gskills anyhow the xmp never worked and was wrong via bios for ages so I did that all manually and I run them happy and stable at 3600 1:1 at 14 14 14 28 and some secoundarys crunched down if I put the same kit in so I'm running 2 sets /4 dimes it won't work anywhere close to those settings cos it's using 4 dimes ? also so if I did some thing crazy like bought a 3600 cl 14 kit that would also brake the set up ?
I ask this as does this mean if I wanted 32gigs I ether have to buy a new full kit or run terrible timings and have much lower bandwidths which makes it pointless almost ? if you find the time buildz I'd like to hear back as your a grate help to the community when regarding oc also my mb is a gigabyte pro rev 1 x570
Gigabyte x570 pro massive vdroop(3%) even with highest llc setting(turbo), also BCLK always hover around 99mhz. Is it normal? Should i upgrade? processor is 5900x.
Turbo is not highest llc setting. At least on B550 pro. There are two higher ultra and extreme (unless they added those two in comparison to x570). And btw vdroop is quite desirable for overclocking CPU. Go and watch AHOC videos about it. For BCLK at least on B550 you have to set manually Infinity Fabric clock (and disable spread spectrum) to get 100 MHz.
What do you find is the most common reason to not being able to hit 1900FCLK? 5950x, x570 Aorus Master, TridentZ Neo 3800CL14. Like you mentioned 1900 will just not boot. Any tips to getting a boost in FCLK? or does it come down to the individual CPU or MB just not being up to the task? Thanks for the video!
This might be a stupid question, but why is it okay to get 2 sets og the 8gb kit(4*8) but not the 16GB kits ?
What’s the primary difference between the Aorus Master and the Aorus Xtreme? Is there a reason to go one for the other? (Not taking price into consideration)
Great question.
The Xtreme looks amazing, probably the best looking mb I’ve ever seen, but obviously that’s subjective. No chipset fan, a couple more USB ports and details like connector orientation. Now, I have the Master and I’ve never heard the fan, even after turning everything off and putting my ear against it. And half my USB ports are empty. But I’ve always wanted to get the Xtreme because of the killer looks, of course I won’t because it’s not worth the extra $. If money was no issue I would have bought it instead of the Master, it’s that gorgeous.
Question: What about QVL's. For my B550I Aorus Pro AX, the QVL ist just shitty...CL14 Memory? Just some non-existing ADATA RAM...and so many Quad-Kits in the QVL on a 2-Slot Board...
for 2x16gb for cheap performance get crucial ballistic 3200cl16 (micron e-die); i run 1900mhz fclk 1:1:1 on both my past 3950x and now the 5950x. 150eur you can't go wrong
What voltage and timings?
@@karama300video imgur.com/a/AoRnlnx
So even if I use 2 dimms and reasonably oc them I can still use them with the Master x570 and just leave those 2 slots empty.
My goal is max exploit of IF... which is 3866ish?
Question is I'd like to have 64gb in my system for longevity (on a 5950x). but rumours here and there are 32gb sticks are more difficult to oc. Could I ever reach 3866ish ( if cpu permits) with a 2x32gb?
How do you feel about the x570 ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero motherboard for Ryzen 5950x?
If you had these two, what specific RAM and cpu fan would you recommend?
Still no answer..
I'm having trouble overclocking with the B550 Unify X. I had a B550 Aorus Pro AC and was able to overlcok my Patriot Viper 4000mhz 2x8 b-die to 3800cl14 but I cant do it with this Unify X. It would boot on the Unify X but it would BSD when I ran Aida or TestMem or any other applications. I used the same ram timings as I did for the Aorus Pro AC with the same ram timings of 14-15-8-12-28-40 but don't know why it wont work on the Unify X. I have a 5800X3D. Can you please help? Any suggestions?
Question BZ, What are your current thoughts on the B550 Unify-X? People are saying it's inconsistent and some of them such as mem OC and that I should not buy it if I can't get it binned? It fits more or less what I want to try and play with but I csnt afford to buy a few and bin to sell the bad ones. Is this a real concern or?
This are your best vids love them the most cant wait to see best MB and mems for the am5 boards when out
I got the Asus Dark Hero. I think it deserves a place on the list.
Me too but he says that x570 isn’t the best for OC unless I misunderstood him
It's not.
So are are 4 single rank sticks worse than 2 dual ranked ? I have a month to decide on what 3600 memory to get for my 5900x. I want at least 32gb.
I saw this channels review on the unify x570 a year ago and have been a fanboy ever since. It's my favorite part of my entire ryzen 5900 build
No problems with x570 unify? I'm getting and 3600cl14 in couple of days..
@@jaybee0507 all motherboards can hit 1.1 at 3600mhz
@@matthewsmith2385 Yup. 3733 cl14/14/14 easy, but 3800 1:1 is not possible, no matter what i do.
I'm going to ask the maybe stupid question but I have 2 sticks of Viper steels 4000 CL19 (PVS416G400C9K), running at 3800 CL16, on a 5600x , would it be a bad idea to try to get 2 more sticks to get 32gb of ram?
Okay Buildzoid I have small question. When I build one year ago my new pc, tryed so hard to buy G.Skill TridentZ Royal 3600 mhz CL14 in Central Europe where am I. That didn't happen so I searched specifically for B-Die kits. I managed to get a dual 8gb Corsair Dominator Platinium 3600 CL16 which apparently is worse B-Die on the market but still.
Please tell me if Typhoon confirms that those are Samsung B-Die, they should be easy to OC with my Ryzen 3 3300x placed on Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Formula. Why they basically don't go more than stock D.O.C.P.?
Oh by the way I subscribed to your channel almost 2 years so I watched many, many, many videos with you doing OC DDR4 sticks. I feel quiet sure how to do it following your steps🙂. But still mine Dominator's they don't boot after slightly changing settings other than D.O.C.P.
Can you give me some advice, please? I can write serial numbers if you want...
P.S. As always I left a like as a thanks for all job you doing 😉
I have a question about ram, so if I want to run the highest lets say at 4000ish and have 4 slots filled ideally what should I go with?
I've got some experience with two separate MSI B550 Unify (not the Unify-X), and both of them have suffered from very loud VRM coil whine, a quick search shows several forum threads with people complaining about similar issues too, so if you're planning on getting Unify or Unify-X it's probably worth keeping this in mind.
On the other hand, both Unify and -X versions are deeply discounted right now in the UK (they're about 50 quid cheaper than the B550 Aorus Master as of June 10th) so if you're after a decent deal and are not too bothered by VRM noise, it might be worth picking it up.
Coil wine in aida test is fun on the X but since running custom bios and turning down edc my board stopped wining but the first run it was like a bee got in the window
@@hannahtimson2526 Yes I have a similar experience with Aida benchmark (memory and cache), it's pretty repeatable & reproducable as well, starting a Memory Copy bench has the coils singing.
Could you share your EDC settings and maybe more details on your custom BIOS? I've had to tighten the retention screws on the VRM backplate, which helped with the noise a little bit, but didn't eliminate it
@ When did I ever say the Unify was bad? The Unify/Unify-X has the most overbuilt VRM of ANY B550 boards from any of the major OEMs. There's no objective 'best' board, do your research regarding price points/features/VRM specs and choose one that best fit your needs. MSI and Asus both makes amazing boards and garbage boards. So does Gigabyte and ASRock.
TLDR: No such thing as 'best board', go do your own reading, watch some reviews and determine what's best for your own usage, nobody can make that decision for you.
@ You are LITERALLY commenting on this video where the VERY FIRST motherboard he's recommending is the MSI B550 Unify-X...
@ If you REALLY want to see a well-rounded cross-section of recommendation, watch the summary section of this video th-cam.com/video/VUwjxNEe26I/w-d-xo.html (from 2:05:00 onwards), where he makes multiple recommendations from a range of OEMs, highlighting the feature set/pricing pros/cons of each of his choice.
I am not really seeing this 'mostly you saw buildzoid recommending Gigabyte motherboard in the B550 series' that you're talking about. He's stated multiple times that the MSI Unify-X is great for VRM/MemOC, Asus TUF for generally well-rounded featureset and price, GB Aorus Master/Asus Crosshair if you have plenty of cash to splash about and don't care about value for price...
I don't see any overall propensity on him to universally recommend Gigabyte boards over others. He's almost always very clear about the reason he likes a particular board. Actually watch the videos and pick out the factors that is specifically important to you (is it VRM? Memory layout? Rear panel I/O? 5/10GBit ports? M.2 slots?) Pick your poison.
Love this channel. The "Rainman' of Motherboards. Golden Channel.
Does 3rd Gen Ryzen benefit from Dual Rank memory? I bought a B550 Aorus Pro V2 and now I'm curious if I can gain some points by going that route
Yes, you do
What X570 board does you recommend for normal CPU?
Has there been an update to the 570 Bios/chip drivers that allows for better Mem OC. I have the 5950x and the Asus HeroVIII.
Hey, my buddy has a problem with his RAM for 5950X (G.Skill Ripjaw 4000mhz CL16 32 GB), it only does 2133MHz (1064.5), all XMP profiles are unstable. Could you explain how to set it up? Can it work at the recommended 3600 MHz?
5950x + Asus WS Pro ACE x570 + 2x32GB Kingston ECC @ 3200Mhz here.. surprised to not see this board on here but.. I read it was a slightly older design or something.. been stable for my needs so far running Ubuntu on the NVME and a Windows SSD swappable on boot up to game.
So what is the worse that can happen if I have an Asrock B550M-ITX with a 8 Phase (3+3) + 2 SOC paired up with the 5950X and a 3090 and Trident Z Neo (2x16) B-Die?
I want to use this board for my 5950x build... I can't stop watching this video ha... ty for the info 🙌
I bought the patriot viper steel 4x8 4000mhz CL19. For my motherboard msi mag b550 tomahawk atx am4 and I have a ryzen 5600x. I don’t know much about overclocking ram but what can I do to be able to run stable at xmp or close to that?
ASUS dark hero viii ? Thoughts?
tbh i dontt really need the 5950x but im getting it to future proof my pc for the next few years
I'm guessing you are also ok with the RGB version of Crucial Ballistix RGB BL2K32G36C16U4BL 3600 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 64GB (32GB x2), CL16, Black?
I already have a set of the g.skill F4-3600C16D-16GVKC 2x8 GB that i bought 8 months ago, would you recommend me buying another set of the same kit, or getting rid of the kit i have and get the 4x8gb kit they sell? .btw i have the b550 aorus pro v2
My computer will randomly shut off completely with ASUS X570-E Gaming and the 5950X paired with RTX 3090FE. This is with Gskill Neo with Samsung B-Die @3600MHz CAS16(2x16GB) and Seasonic Prime T-850 Titanium. However this will only happen while playing Cyberpunk 2077 or Battlefield V on max @ 4K. For anything else works fine. I’m looking at these videos to see what would be more stable in my case. Learning a lot. Thank you.
Why no mini itx?
So just a question about the MSI Meg Unify-X. If I wanted to get it and get a sabrent rocket gen4 m.2 for my bootdrive and another sabrent rocket gen4 for gaming. Would they both run just fine? Or would I have to get a sata ssd for my games?
Also made a parts picker list. If there is anything wrong with it or suggestions. I'm open. pcpartpicker.com/list/RHQ7Vc
WOW incredibly descriptive, I loved it, More, more, more please. I've been looking for a motherboard and Processor like a Ryzen 7 5800X or (really leaning towards) 5900X. I was seriously looking at ASRock X570 Tiachi. After your review and some insight, I believe MSI MEG B550 UNIFY X might be it if I can find one. I was on the right track for ram and bought G.SKILL Ripjaw V32 GB (2X16) DDR4 3600 but didn't realize the CL was 16 until now hope their ok. P.S. I "Subscribed", "Clicked the Bell" and chose "All" to get every video.
I bought 2 sets of G.Skill Flare X 16GB (2x8GB) 3200 C14. Planned to OC to 3600 C14 or C16 FCLK 1800. Is that possible? According to your video it would be terrible, close to impossible. Please advise.
Would the G.SKILL DDR4-3600MHz CL14-15-15-35 (4x16GB) work well just using with the 5950x using XMP?
using msi x570 gaming plus with 5950x , it was working perfectly , yesterday it is stuck on cpu redlight ( i checked processor , ram , graphic on other board they are fine but having issue on board) can any one help?
Had to indeed tinker a lot to make my 4x8 Viper Steels work with my x570 Unify and 5900X.
The XMP never booted, and FCLK 2000 wouldn't boot until a way later version of AGESA. Passing TM5 stability but with way too many errors.
They're fine at 3666 14 and/or 3833 16. Still hoping that 4000 will be achievable someday
4000 is a bitch to get stable 4400cl9 steels wouldnt do it but teamgroup 3600cl14 can but it needs a lot of soc and soc related setting plus a few ram timings tricks. ccd/iod tuneing is a must
@@hannahtimson2526 I can't get a stable 4000 with the soc at 1.2 and IOD/CCD at 1.150. With the DDR at 1.5 obviously. My windows event logger would just implose with 150 erroes a minutes lmao