the fact that it is only 1.54 second difference with a massive power:weight difference, both cars configured for track is impressive make the track a bit wet & more twisty favours the evo, more straights favours the boss. so you'd pick what you want I find the evolution quite impressive and the boss 302 is pretty cool fun car by the looks. cool video :)
So, you're telling me, two seconds behind with 150 less horsepower? Yeah, lets toss a better intake and exhaust on that Evo and still have more money in the bank with easily a win on that track.
+Levi Dunn If you tune it the brakes and turbos will heat up faster. The fastest lap will get closer. Every lap after that the Boss will pull away. The two cars are fairly close in price. At least when new. The Boss is worth much more than the EVO now.
+fatboy19831 It's not as easy as throwing an intake and an exhaust but if you get the right pads/rotor setup and leave the stock turbo and change some bits and pieces like the intake, hard piping and better intercooler a good tune and so on and so forth, the Evo will be faster every lap without any heating issues without a doubt.
Elie Kassouf I am not saying it is impossible...I have never ....ever seen an EVO that could last even 5 hot laps. I have seen V6 Camaros run all day. Same for 500 + hp Mustangs. Anything you can do to an EVO you can do MORE reliably with a Mustang. Look at formula drift they have 850 to 1000 hp Mustangs that can go the whole season on one engine. No Japanese car can do that. The big weak spot on the Mustangs is the brakes. Other than that they are very good high hp runners.
As an owner of the same model Evo I can swallow the results and be very happy with that. I think some people forget that the Evo is great on all sorts of terrain. It's snowing where I live right now and I can take my car out and have fun with nearly no worries of getting into trouble. The Boss would be useless right now. Of course we all live in different climates, but for me I would hate to have a car sitting around for 6 months for nice weather to come.
RIP EVO boss302 alot of horses best model of this mustang fq400 alot of horses 75 less but the best model of the evo10 there are even similarly priced american muscle will always be a aluminium block with a v8 fart generator
Similarly priced? The Boss 302 and Evo X MR are $40,000 cars. The X FQ400 is $80,000. You could literally buy both the X MR and Boss 302 for the same price as the X FQ400.
3 laps, each way under a second for a combined time of 1.54 seconds. The $38,000 evo is like a second and a half behind $42,000 mustang. for $4,000 you can gain way more than a second and half in aftermarket upgrades.
From the moment i saw the mustang gets a powerslide entrance i knew this video was some biased shit for the mustang. they probably warmed up the tyres on the mustang doing power slides then took the evo out on cold brakes tyres and engine seeing how biased this is. Anyways the mustang should be faster look at the huge difference in power, it's just embarrassing the mustang is 1.5 second faster and these guys are proud of it. Not gonna go into modified cars vs stock cars but if the evo had the power the mustang did and the mustang had the power the evo did, the time difference would be HUGE and the mustang cost over 4k more that's alot of money in difference.
put them on a real course like mosport gp and see what happens, that boss will walk all over that evo. Less powerful and lighter cars have a way bigger advantage on Cayuga. The course can make or brake lap times for certain cars. The Evo is an excellent car with incredible performance, potential and value.
I hate hillbillys who dismiss the evo as "ricer." You know nothing. The car is one of the fastest cars under 40 grand. I am no fanboy, I would take the boss. But I respect the Evo. The new 2015 Mustang is amazing, cant wait to see reviews on that
I hate the fact that they use a 4 cyl ecotec turbo. What are they thinking? Going green now? And all those round shapes and bubbly corners make the 2015 resemble a Genesis coupe. They destroyed the masculinity of the car.
KOJI BF1 FnnY gAmEplaY aNd cAr REvIeWS DuMb True, but all I was saying is that they used the least powerful version. Anyway, Most american muscle cars are very cheap compared to their European counterparts.
JDM VR4 we are not comparing European and American cars we are comparing two similar priced cars one is a bare bone v8 pony cars using its suspension work, high revving V8, 6 speed manual, and sticky tires and the other is a light sedan with awd, paddle shifts, 300hp going to all wheels, and quick acceleration with electronic turbo
I like both of these cars, but I wouldn't say it's exactly a fair comparison. The Boss is basically a high-performance version of the mustang. There are plenty of EVO versions overseas that put out almost as much power as the Boss. The takeaway is: A high-performance Mustang is only slightly faster than a factory delivered Evo.
***** Indeed, just reading the announcement that the X would be the last Evo was a sad day. Hopefully, they can at least go out with a bang with the Evo X Concept Final.
All the butthurt and ignorance on here is hilarious. How could anybody who really knows anything about cars be questioning this outcome? Were you not paying attention when Ford stated that their goal for the Boss 302 was to beat the E92 M3 around Laguna Seca? Did you not notice when it actually happened, and all the outrage from the BMW fanboys? This is a serious car. 0-60 in 4.0 seconds, 1/4 mile in 12.3 seconds, 0.96G on the skidpad. No disrespect to the Evo, but it was out of it's league here. I'd be interested to see an FQ400 do a lap with a professional driver, and then have the same guy do it with the Boss 302. I bet it would be damn close. The edge might go to the FQ400 there. The days of American pony/muscle cars sucking around corners are over. They have been over for a few years.
i say your the ignorant one, mustang needs twice the engine size and only won by 1.4 seconds lol, if i was ford i'd be embarassed lol, half the power and almost the same weight, i wonder who has the best performance for the engine size, put a v8 in that evo and we'll see who wins, evo would do 2 laps for every lap the mustang would do lol
guy proulx, 1.4 seconds is a lot of time on the track. It'd be one thing if it was a couple of tenths, but 1.4 seconds is a lot. Face it the boss is faster, way faster. It's faster around the track and the strip. The Evo also has all wheel drive which is a pretty nice advantage on a track, and it still lost.
The Man with No Name Already compared. The Germans did it at Hockenhiem small track. This Boss Mustang, M3 Track Ed., FQ400, Audi R8, Nissan GTR etc. the Boss was quicker around Hockenhiem the the FQ400. And the M3 Track Edition. I know many Domestic magazines do not like American cars. The Germans do not care were the car is made. In fact the Mustang put sells all M models combined in Germany. Maybe the Ford is not so bad?
This test is already invalid because there are two different drivers in this... Let's be real here, on a circuit with the same unbiased driver, the Evo would beat the mustang every time.
They purposely chose the mustang 302 boss because none of the regular mustangs could beat an evo. The mitsubishi evo MR isnt even their top model, the fq400 is. Which could smoke the boss 302. And probably the shelby 500 too. Seeming as the fq400 only lost by seconds to a nissan GTR that had 600 hp.
what "purposely"????, look i am not a big fan of american muscle, love them, they are fun, but end of the day not my genre i would say. having said that isn't the whole point of comparison begin at a price point? didnt he said boss take away was 42K, and MR was still 38K. so thats a justified compare point within 5k range
First of all, losing by "seconds" is an eternity. Second, the evo is lighter than the gtr. Third, gtr has 545hp unless it's a Nismo. Evo is too ugly and too fat for its size.
It looks like they chose the 302 because it's basically the same price. A GT is 1/2 to 1/3 the price of that Evo. How would that comparison make any sense?
The fq400, which was a highly limited model that cost 82 thousand US dollars and wasn't even available in the US. You could buy a Z28, the ultimate track muscle car as of yet, which would not only beat the fq, but would save you money.
Thumps Up for Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. just a 4 cylinder car with 2 liter engine competing with Mustang Boss 302... 8 cylinder car. WOW no wonder Evo is most poplar car on grey market before. love the sun roof :) in EVO
Keep in mind it took a 444 hp V8 to just barely beat out Mitsubishi's 4-cylinder turbo. Twice the cylinders, twice the horsepower, but just a second faster on a 1:20 course? That's a stock Evo too. Let's see how this race goes with a properly tuned Evo.
But it took the EVO AWD and DCT to allow it to corner with any semblance of handling ability. If the EVO was just FWD and turned a lap 1.54 seconds slower than the Boss, I'd concede an EVO victory, but each car needs it's advantages to make the most of what it's capable of in stock form. An AWD Boss 302 would probably run 4+ seconds faster than the stock EVO and a 444hp EVO would do the same to a stock RWD Boss 302, so it's a fair comparison stock vs stock IMO......
05gtdriver well said.... most people dont know shit about cars.. people think that just because the evo has less power and can almost do the same as a boss is better. . guess what in a hot summer day turbos suck. evos are to make you feel twice the driver than you really are. mustang are for true drivers.
***** Gosh, such an extended explanation for something you're so convinced about. 1st off, reading comprehension is duly necessary to understand my post. Going by your EXTREMELY long winded post, so the EVO could take out a Boss 302 without being what it is?? I never said the EVO was modified in any way, share or form. If you could not sound like an irate parent and slowly reread my post, there's just a simple statement about each car's methods are what allow them to do the numbers they do. No fantasy cars(again, reading comprehension) were seriously considered, just making a theoretical example. No one is challenging your manhood, no one is saying your preferences are unworthy. Your extremely long post is disturbing.......
Sure, the Mustang has 400+ hp and has a V8... But the fact that the EVO has not even half of the motor and has half the horsepower but was only 1 second behind says a lot js.
Import fanboys are the worst losers. "Lets see this go against my friend's 1k hp supra!" or "Wow they let it win because it's American" or even "That's not fair, the mustang has way more horsepower(even though they're essentially the same price)".
I traded my 2008 M3 (which is a V8) for a 2012 mustang 5.0 and performance wise theyre almost identical. So all you EVO fan boys who wish you could afford an M3 (and dont lie, you do) do some research or find a 5.0 to test drive. And dont even use that "with a few bolt-ons" excuse cause the same can be said for the mustang.
Most watched, because we need more dynamic comparos like this- comparisons that intrigue real car guys. It shows that you all are car people too.I think we need more import vs muscle videos, not everyone is biased one way or the other, so they are very relevant reviews.
awd and dual clutch, vs rwd and manual. Nothing impressive about it. Obviously if you think Horsepower is the only thing that makes cars have faster track times you are uneducated about cars. It's made for the track, it has brembos, & eibach springs as well. Its an even match.
no whats embarrassing is the evo owner has to go around saying he got beat by a rwd mustang in its own game... go the the 1/4 track and the evo gets beats worse
What are some other cars like the Evo? I know some of the cars that compete with it such as the ford focus st and subaru wrx sti or the golf gti. what else is there?
You've got the three you mentioned (ST, STI, and GTI). Then you also have the Golf R, Focus RS, Mini Cooper S JCW edition, Audi A1 Quattro, Fiesta ST, Seat Leon Cupra, RenaultSport Clio and Megane, Citroen DS3, and Peugeot 208....to name a few. Of course, most of those are hot hatches.
Nickolas Little That is assuming he doesn't live in north america. Sadly we don't get most of those cars. We don't get the forcus RS yet, nor any Citroen, or Renault, Peugot, or Seat. Aslo, we just got the golf R this year I believe, we also don't have the audi A1 yet. BUT at least we have all of the MINI models.
juderocks5 Yeah I live in NA too....there's way too many hot hatches/compacts that we don't get. But I'm pretty pumped about the RS coming here. Lol I'm not personally a fan of the MINI but the JCW edition isn't too bad....if you're into that sort of thing
I'm very excited about the rs happening, and it would be even better if they offered it in all wheel drive. I'm not a very big fan of the MINI myself but my girlfriend is and it's a huge step above the last car she drove so i'm fine with it. Personally I drive an EVO 8. My last sports car before this was a modified 2011 mustang GT, but when I drove the EVO I knew it would destroy the mustang anywhere but a drag strip so I just had to have it.
juderocks5 Good news! The RS is AWD, so I'm pretty stoked since my Focus is FWD. Yeah my GF is driving a Gran Prix....she has 0 interest in cars. Man it's a bummer about the EVO, I was always partial to them. Yeah that's the thing, I love Mustangs they're the reason I'm so into cars now but they aren't the best around the track unless you drop money on a 302 or Laguna Seca or hold out for the new Shelby.
2015 Ford Mustang In terms of performance, the Mustang GT will still offer the 5.0-liter V8, and the article reads that the 2015 GT with the Performance package will actually be faster on the track than the Boss 302. Some other interesting tidbits about the new Mustang are the standard push-button starter, the availability of adaptive cruise control, an independent rear suspension, a 200-pound weight reduction (that at least somewhat will be afforded by using aluminum front fenders) and a wheelbase that measures the same 107.1 inches as the current design.
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Christian Ortiz Your getting literal...its a general statement they are not going to say 35.5% more HP than the other. Not a put down or trying to little it or make the Mustang seem like more than it is.
Anton V that's right if you say that the mustang has 50% more hp than the mitsubishi, but thats not what the guy in the video said. he said that the evo had 50% less hp than the mustang, so the starting point is the 444 hp of the mustang 444 - 50%of444 = 444-222=222 which is a lot less than the evo actually has. btw.: not hating against the video, or anybody else, just wanted to clear that up
Oh sorry thats right 50% of the 444hp is 222 and the evo still has about 70hp more then that and 70 hp is alot to get . A and tunner and c.a.i is 30 hp .headers is like 15-20 hp and mufflers like 5 hp so after all that still only at 60 hp
All of you Import vs Muscle losers are just sad. *BOTH* of these machines are awesome, affordable and *FAST!* I don't give a rats ass who built these cars! I also don't care where they come from! America, Japan, Europe Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea. *HELL!* These cars can come from *Mars* for all I give a shit! If it's fast and looks good? It's getting my respect! *DONE!*
Turtle Pops Is tehre any thing more ricer than a bugati veyron? The guys weld togeter a VW v8 lol... Is there anything just more ricer than that? Cmon...
Very enjoyable and well done comparison. Personally, these cars are far enough apart that I consider them apples and oranges but I'm partial to awd and dual clutch trannys so give a little nod towards the Mitsu for that. I'm excited about the 2015 Mustangs with the addition of IRS across the board and it will be interesting to see how they test out. I think it was the power deficit that hurt the EVO more than the other variable here and it would be nice to see Mitsubishi updated with more horsepower in the future. 350 horses for the EVO would be just about right out of the box and would really put this car more on my radar.
I really dont get why everyone is so surprised and gloating about the mustang. Ford purposely built the Boss as a track car. It beat a car that is great at everything all around and does what it did in the track in the dirt too. As an all around car i would definitely go with the EVO without a doubt just more of a do anything kind of car.
***** Of course it is. I don't think that people even realize that basically all Muscle cars have the sole purpose of looking cool and being more fun to drive than almost any other car. They honestly were never intended as track cars or family cars, the invention of the pony car changed that a bit and allowed them to be used in those ways (to some extent).
+ODST172 When I drive around I see about 100 mustang GTs to 1 EVO, its a less common car, which I think makes it much cooler. Plus, I owned a lancer and it was an amazing car.
A second is a huge amount of time on a track. The difference between a Camaro SS 1le and a FERRARI 458 ITALIA on a track (willow springs I believe, it's on motortrend) is UNDER A SECOND. 1.5 seconds is a huge split, and you not knowing this shows how qualified you are to be knocking on the Boss
Summary: The EVO's AWD system really is amazing! It just makes this car a superb tool for dancing around the track. The second you get on the power, it just rockets you on the other side with tons of grip. The uhh.. The Boss 302 also comes with adjustable dampers. 4:55
This is a track car. A real track car. It makes twice as much power and weighs about the same as the Evo. Ford specifically tuned the car for track use
Matt Colegrove nope the car is not made for tracks something is really wrong with this comparison even in need for speed the evo out performs the boss 302 in every aspect .. the 302's acceleration, top speed and control are all close to zero
mohamd khaled Dude stop comparing things in games , its not real but.That much amount of weight that car couldnt beat a lighter oponent like a GT86 or 370z
Brad Miller first of all the comment is several months old now and second i'm not even a gamer.. however car games nowadays try to make driving as realistic as possible i know this doesn't apply on NFS but in NFS the car specs are realistic for example the Bugatti is the fastest car in the world so it has the highest top speed in the game .. the evo is oneof the best handling cars so it is the most controllable car in the game .
Evo's are de tuned from the factory. 9 out of 10 Evo owners ditch the POS exhaust system and move up to a 3" exhaust and a ECU flash tune. Most after the tune will make 350-400 whp depending on the quality of the parts. You can do the same to a Boss 302 but the gains wont be that much. Depending on the track design (i:e more corners less straights) the stage 1 tuned Evo will win by a small margin but in stock form its close. Im not a big fan of Evo's but I like them. Im a subaru guy. But unfortunately the mustang will come and go in a year but the value of Evo's and STi's will stay.
Ooh a Subaru guy aye? Always love the rivalry between the Lancers and WRXs, actually is was because of that rivalry that I love both cars soo much, but I'm more a Evo guy idk I just love evos
you sound like a honda driver with that mentality. evo8/9/10 with boltons netting around 340whp at like 24psi, thats not impressing anyone. dont make your 300whp fwd platform talon sound like its not a pile.
There's more than one way to skin a cat. The Mustang and the Evo take two totally different approaches toward the same goal: going fast. While the Mustang had faster track times in this comparison, I'd totally take the Evo. Its approach to making power is preferable to me. Also, you can make a ton more power very easily/cheaply with an Evo, something that tends to be much more true for turbo cars than N/A ones. In fact, if you just took the difference in price between the two cars in this comparison (which is $4,305) and dropped it into the Evo to make it the same cost as the Mustang, the Evo would've annihilated that Boss in every way... Seriously...
Kevinb1821 www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33543&endYear=2014&modelCode1=MUST&showcaseOwnerId=459509&startYear=2014&makeCode1=FORD&searchRadius=200&showcaseListingId=396970149&mmt=%5BFORD%5BMUST%5BMUST%257CGT%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=398012253&Log=0 try 8 grand less
+Zack Richmond Buy a base Mustang GT with the track pack and bolt on a supercharger or turbo for 5 grand. You can make 650 whp reliably with the 5.0, while the Evo will not be as reliable and being an Evo X, does not have the cheap power potential of the earlier 4G63 powered cars.
MAEguy That's a good option, I suppose. Bye, bye warranty though. But I guess that's a moot point with most mods. For me, the truth is that Mustangs feel like boats. I much prefer the high-tech import feel associated with many of the Japanese cars. I, for instance, have a Mazdaspeed 3 and I love its driving dynamics. The proof really is in the pudding, though, and the fact is that Speeds are very competitive in auto-x.
That's all according to the "plan". In 2013 the Mustang broke it by adding excellent handling to a muscle car... And when something doesn't go according to plan, well, everyone loses their minds...
To be fair, Autoguide went to Cayuga. It's a track that notoriously suits smaller, low power cars. Local time attacks have s2ks and miatas winning the events if it gives you an idea of just how tight the circuit is. It's really more of a motorcycle track than a car track. The time difference at a real circuit (say, Mosport) would be much larger.
Leszek K. FWIW the evo is much less of a true drivers car. If one wants to get out there and enjoy the rewarding thrill of actually manipulating the chassis (rather than have a car make all the correctiosn for you), then the Boss is your car (for this comparison). It's sharper, more direct on corner entry and you can't deny that v8 sound!!!
Until you drive a Manual V8 sports car with a nice exhaust you just won't get why someone would want it over a WRX STI or EVO. It just sounds and feels like awesomeness
haha yea i no. The evo comes stock rally ready. That mustang would legit fall apart on a dirt course. This video makes no sense. Comparing a rally built racer to a 440 hp muscle car is like racing a dirtbike against a cbr 1000 on asphalt
look at it like this though, the mustang is better in a straight line and the evo is better off road, so your saying put the stang on a rally course? ok put that evo on a quarter mile as well. neither of these cars are best suited for track racing. they are both out of their element in this video.
I love my 2012 5.0! I got it for 25k brand new... But I would prefer the evo all day. Driving in the rain w my stand is no fun. I want AWD. Dual clutch tranny is also better. And the room!! I hate putting people in the back seat of my stang. It's for lil kids. If only I could get a new evo for 25k! Lol
I hope this video makes all you Evo lovers realize how much Mitsubishi is off their game. I probably shouldn't even say off their game because they won't ever be cool (fast) again it's obvious. While American cars have made huge engine advancements, imports such as Subaru and Mitsubishi haven't done a good thing since their first models hit the market in 2003 (the ones we fell in love with so fast).
I love the Evo, but I would have to agree with you on this. Mitsubishi and Subaru seem to be playing it a tad bit safe these past few years and I have to hand it to Ford for the improvements they've made to the Mustang. I would still personally pick an Evo over a Mustang, because I'm biased, but I wouldn't mind letting that V8 roar!
The comparison is a fair one from a cost perspective, and relevant to me. I love my modified GT and my wife's EVO. Both very fun to drive, but built for different purposes.
Such a shame for Mustang! 2.5 times bigger engine and only 80lb-ft more torque... Weird comparison... Won't be surprised if you'll do a comparison between a bicycle and Mustang and Mustang will win... lol
Strap a turbo on the boss 302 engine, and it will put down over 600hp. Displacement is not everything. Its how much air you can pump into those cylinders.
Billy Leung Slap a turbo on the Boss then let's see who's faster? Or maybe a fast shifting auto in the Boss? Or how about lets fabricate an AWD drivetrain for Boss? Stop coming up with excuses, It can go both ways.
Do you know that people make money from posting videos like this on TH-cam? The more views the more they get... and also from the commercial running at the beginning and from the number of views. The view counter keeps climbing each time you come back.
Whats the difference with the evo uro edition he says... search you tube mitsubishi evo vs lambo and watch what a refined factory evo can do. I believe top gear does this review. Mustang does have boss horse power over the evo that is slow as shit lol. I guess evo handles a tiny bit better. I wonder what last generation mustang could do against last generation evo. Hint solid rear truck axel.
well they're not talking about last gen. and the evo in production form. Like other guy said bump the evo to 444hp. Well then the Evo becomes a60k car and gets on the turf of the 662hp GT500. the compare is fair and if you like small turbo cars that's your fault but don't whine wen your team loses.
+gentlemonsterkennels maybe that the engine in the Ford has twice as many cylinders and 2,5 times as big? Besides that, the evolution can handle much more g's in the corner than the way-too-heavy ford. It's just that the driver is a total wimp. American cars just miss the finesse and precision of non-American cars. The Ford uses more than twice the mpg? But who cares, God bless ignorant 'Murica.
So you're telling me different drivers, and the fuckin automatic transmission on the Evo? Haha come one. The Evo BONE STOCK can be tuned to well over 330 hp AT THE WHEELS and already crush that stang. There's so much wrong with this comparison I don't even want to get myself any more angry than watching this already has. Hahaa
A 2 liter 4 cilinder with 291hp vs a 5 liter V8 with 444hp. Way to go Murica youve done it again. The engine of the Ford is literally 250% of the Mitsubishis engine size. Its good to see that they need 250% the engine size and 153 more hp to shave off just 1 second of a laptime. The only reason these cars are being compared is because they cost around the same. But dont forget that anywhere outside the US, the Boss would be at least 2 times more expensive than the Evo.
There is a difference? Hey, in the 1980s Camaros, Mustangs and Corvettes were EVERYWHERE and crazy popular with the mullet crowd. If not so much a rap on these cars as it is the lack of excitement about other cars at the time.
David Slaymaker Maybe. Last guy I saw that really looked the part was actually in a Corvette......but that's another story. Next year changes everything for the Mustang but as it stands today, right now, with it's "live" axl. the Mustang is the car most connected to it's 1980s heritage.
It might surprise you to know that the 5.0 responds very well to bolt-ons too. There are quite a few Mustang GTs and Bosses out there with bolt-ons and a tune making over 440whp.
hartsickdisciple Generally all evos on simple boltons like tb exhaust, intake, intercooler piping, get above 300 whp, like 340-350 whp, but even if you count that extra 100 to the mustang, rear wheel drive would be harder to push around on the track, and the evo is forgiving and easy to drive fast, I mean I feel very safe in my evo, but I don`t really feel safe in a rear wheel drive car going fast in the corner and the rear end breaking scares me.
Nagy Szilard that would be because it requires skill to drive a high HP RWD car around a track........you feel safe because the computer is driving for you.....skill> computer
I dont understand your question. but if youre asking if Evo can do 200 mph the answer is obviously no. Its a 4 cylinder 2.0L engine. its not meant to go 200 mph
Sometimes I Envy America, their car is just fucking cheap. Only $43k and you get Mustang? Here in SEA you will only get the very basic Corolla. I will be fucking rich if I live in America :(
Regardless of all the stats and 'well if you mod it' arguments, one thing I will say about the Evo's is that even a regular driver can push the car and put down times close-ish to the times published using professional drivers, whereas alot of these big v8 rwd cars require more skill to match those times. This is why you will see mustang gts, camaro ss, etc running 14+ second quarter mile times at the strip.
Oh come on, really? You have compared 291 and 444? don't be stupid. My friend has Mitsubishi Evolution with 720 hp and THIS IS NOT A LIMIT, so this Mustang will nervesly smoke in the corner. Dislike. Compare equal cars, without such difference in HP.
well now that wouldn't be fair now would it lol, i love it when american muscle car fanboys argue about mustangs and camaros, one says camaro is junk, the other says mustangs is junk, i'm guessing they're all junk lol, am i right?
Buahhhahahha Mustang beats Evo.. LOL... In what world!!???? Planet USA?? Do you people realize that We can watch this video in Europe too?? In the next Mustang advert try to make some effort and don't compare it to the slowest Evo....
hartsickdisciple E92 M3 is not that hard to beat.. Evo FQ-400 would beat it too.. you read between the lines.. My point was they took the slowest Evo you dumbass..
the fact that it is only 1.54 second difference with a massive power:weight difference, both cars configured for track is impressive
make the track a bit wet & more twisty favours the evo, more straights favours the boss. so you'd pick what you want
I find the evolution quite impressive and the boss 302 is pretty cool fun car by the looks.
cool video :)
What? an Evo without an massive wing on the rear end? what is this heresy??
***** Yeah, for some reason the Evo MR has no wing but the lower tier GSR has the big wing.
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So, you're telling me, two seconds behind with 150 less horsepower? Yeah, lets toss a better intake and exhaust on that Evo and still have more money in the bank with easily a win on that track.
+Levi Dunn If you tune it the brakes and turbos will heat up faster. The fastest lap will get closer. Every lap after that the Boss will pull away. The two cars are fairly close in price. At least when new. The Boss is worth much more than the EVO now.
+fatboy19831 It's not as easy as throwing an intake and an exhaust but if you get the right pads/rotor setup and leave the stock turbo and change some bits and pieces like the intake, hard piping and better intercooler a good tune and so on and so forth, the Evo will be faster every lap without any heating issues without a doubt.
Elie Kassouf I am not saying it is impossible...I have never ....ever seen an EVO that could last even 5 hot laps. I have seen V6 Camaros run all day. Same for 500 + hp Mustangs. Anything you can do to an EVO you can do MORE reliably with a Mustang. Look at formula drift they have 850 to 1000 hp Mustangs that can go the whole season on one engine. No Japanese car can do that. The big weak spot on the Mustangs is the brakes. Other than that they are very good high hp runners.
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As an owner of the same model Evo I can swallow the results and be very happy with that. I think some people forget that the Evo is great on all sorts of terrain. It's snowing where I live right now and I can take my car out and have fun with nearly no worries of getting into trouble. The Boss would be useless right now. Of course we all live in different climates, but for me I would hate to have a car sitting around for 6 months for nice weather to come.
RIP EVO its anoying though as the fq400 should have been compared not the mr
PsyDuck Productions I'm curious to hear why you feel the FQ 400 would have been a more fair comparison?
RIP EVO boss302 alot of horses best model of this mustang fq400 alot of horses 75 less but the best model of the evo10 there are even similarly priced american muscle will always be a aluminium block with a v8 fart generator
Similarly priced? The Boss 302 and Evo X MR are $40,000 cars. The X FQ400 is $80,000. You could literally buy both the X MR and Boss 302 for the same price as the X FQ400.
@@psyduckproductions607 by the way the best model of the mustang of that year was a gt500. 662 hp.
3 laps, each way under a second for a combined time of 1.54 seconds. The $38,000 evo is like a second and a half behind $42,000 mustang. for $4,000 you can gain way more than a second and half in aftermarket upgrades.
+Daniel Desjardins A (good) normally aspirated V8 is more fun than turbos though, shrug. :)
TassieLorenzo nope
@@TassieLorenzo People who don't think so can't drive.
From the moment i saw the mustang gets a powerslide entrance i knew this video was some biased shit for the mustang. they probably warmed up the tyres on the mustang doing power slides then took the evo out on cold brakes tyres and engine seeing how biased this is. Anyways the mustang should be faster look at the huge difference in power, it's just embarrassing the mustang is 1.5 second faster and these guys are proud of it. Not gonna go into modified cars vs stock cars but if the evo had the power the mustang did and the mustang had the power the evo did, the time difference would be HUGE and the mustang cost over 4k more that's alot of money in difference.
That's not a big difference for what you get.
243kingfrank True.
heyitschinoable I hate to see a Great car go i hope Mitsubishi brings it back somewere down the road.
Yes. You can see that just by looking at the lateral g's recorded... the evo less than the mustang? LOOOOL not in this world
U_Wot_m7+1 Nah The Evolution is better car then the Mustang. I mean Rustang
444HP vs 300HP and the Evo was less than a sec behind the Boss. If that EVO was the FQ400, bye bye big fat BOSS.
+Vision33r not even lol, an fq360 is enough to beat it
can't forget the weight,keep the same power to weight ratio on both and test them after.
+Vision33r yeah and out comes the 450kw raptor
Or just a $400 professional tune. And done..
put them on a real course like mosport gp and see what happens, that boss will walk all over that evo. Less powerful and lighter cars have a way bigger advantage on Cayuga. The course can make or brake lap times for certain cars. The Evo is an excellent car with incredible performance, potential and value.
The Evo is a beautiful car with the wing. But without is ugly af
do u even know what spoilers do to ur car
+Reck tha dab Gamer give you downloaded and add some drag. But I'm talking about the looks here
Lazar Nedeljkovic yeah you're right
+Lazar Nedeljkovic fucking autocorect, i meant downforce
Go take your pills
THE MUSTANG IS AHHH PERFECTION, THE TWO WERE GOOD, I LOVE IT ON VIDEO
I hate hillbillys who dismiss the evo as "ricer." You know nothing. The car is one of the fastest cars under 40 grand. I am no fanboy, I would take the boss. But I respect the Evo. The new 2015 Mustang is amazing, cant wait to see reviews on that
I hate the fact that they use a 4 cyl ecotec turbo. What are they thinking? Going green now?
And all those round shapes and bubbly corners make the 2015 resemble a Genesis coupe. They destroyed the masculinity of the car.
The 2015 mustang looks like riced out pos.
Thats cause the evo is a ricer
TheSoulEater121
katanaben1
most japan and euro cars follow the euro emission rule so they did that power trimming,
I'm so bias I didn't even watch the video, seen the Evo X and was like "yup it's better" end. Haha
Joseph Larios don't know if you got around to watching the vid in the last two years but the evo kinda lost....ouch
KOJI BF1 FnnY gAmEplaY aNd cAr REvIeWS DuMb It lost because they used the least powerful Fq-300 version
JDM VR4 both the cars were in the same price range at the time the fq you would want them to test would be quite more expensive so...........
KOJI BF1 FnnY gAmEplaY aNd cAr REvIeWS DuMb True, but all I was saying is that they used the least powerful version. Anyway, Most american muscle cars are very cheap compared to their European counterparts.
JDM VR4 we are not comparing European and American cars we are comparing two similar priced cars one is a bare bone v8 pony cars using its suspension work, high revving V8, 6 speed manual, and sticky tires and the other is a light sedan with awd, paddle shifts, 300hp going to all wheels, and quick acceleration with electronic turbo
I like both of these cars, but I wouldn't say it's exactly a fair comparison. The Boss is basically a high-performance version of the mustang. There are plenty of EVO versions overseas that put out almost as much power as the Boss. The takeaway is: A high-performance Mustang is only slightly faster than a factory delivered Evo.
Exactly
*****
Indeed, just reading the announcement that the X would be the last Evo was a sad day. Hopefully, they can at least go out with a bang with the Evo X Concept Final.
I'd imagine Japan, the UK and maybe some part of Europe?
Evo still wins my heart.
I lmao when i saw an MX5 right behind the Mustang, it is just too heavy and poor in corners compared to JDM cars
All the butthurt and ignorance on here is hilarious. How could anybody who really knows anything about cars be questioning this outcome? Were you not paying attention when Ford stated that their goal for the Boss 302 was to beat the E92 M3 around Laguna Seca? Did you not notice when it actually happened, and all the outrage from the BMW fanboys? This is a serious car. 0-60 in 4.0 seconds, 1/4 mile in 12.3 seconds, 0.96G on the skidpad. No disrespect to the Evo, but it was out of it's league here. I'd be interested to see an FQ400 do a lap with a professional driver, and then have the same guy do it with the Boss 302. I bet it would be damn close. The edge might go to the FQ400 there. The days of American pony/muscle cars sucking around corners are over. They have been over for a few years.
Yeah, I would love to see an FQ400 vs the Boss 302. I think the Evo would pull ahead in that matchup.
i say your the ignorant one, mustang needs twice the engine size and only won by 1.4 seconds lol, if i was ford i'd be embarassed lol, half the power and almost the same weight, i wonder who has the best performance for the engine size, put a v8 in that evo and we'll see who wins, evo would do 2 laps for every lap the mustang would do lol
guy proulx Evo has all wheel drive. That is one of the reason it can keep up. Pretty obvious.
Jeremy Jones imagine half the engine size and it has to power all 4 wheels
guy proulx, 1.4 seconds is a lot of time on the track. It'd be one thing if it was a couple of tenths, but 1.4 seconds is a lot. Face it the boss is faster, way faster. It's faster around the track and the strip. The Evo also has all wheel drive which is a pretty nice advantage on a track, and it still lost.
Should've done the Boss 302 vs the Evo FQ400. That'd be great to see.
The Man with No Name Already compared. The Germans did it at Hockenhiem small track. This Boss Mustang, M3 Track Ed., FQ400, Audi R8, Nissan GTR etc. the Boss was quicker around Hockenhiem the the FQ400. And the M3 Track Edition. I know many Domestic magazines do not like American cars. The Germans do not care were the car is made. In fact the Mustang put sells all M models combined in Germany. Maybe the Ford is not so bad?
This test is already invalid because there are two different drivers in this... Let's be real here, on a circuit with the same unbiased driver, the Evo would beat the mustang every time.
Ricky Lahey The lap times for both cars were actually recorded by Dave Pratte. He does the official lap times for all of our track tests.
no doubt
Nice try Ricky, now go back in your parents basement and play with your matchbox cars,
Agree
go back to watching the fast and the furious
They purposely chose the mustang 302 boss because none of the regular mustangs could beat an evo. The mitsubishi evo MR isnt even their top model, the fq400 is. Which could smoke the boss 302. And probably the shelby 500 too. Seeming as the fq400 only lost by seconds to a nissan GTR that had 600 hp.
what "purposely"????, look i am not a big fan of american muscle, love them, they are fun, but end of the day not my genre i would say. having said that isn't the whole point of comparison begin at a price point? didnt he said boss take away was 42K, and MR was still 38K. so thats a justified compare point within 5k range
First of all, losing by "seconds" is an eternity. Second, the evo is lighter than the gtr. Third, gtr has 545hp unless it's a Nismo. Evo is too ugly and too fat for its size.
It looks like they chose the 302 because it's basically the same price. A GT is 1/2 to 1/3 the price of that Evo. How would that comparison make any sense?
The fq400, which was a highly limited model that cost 82 thousand US dollars and wasn't even available in the US. You could buy a Z28, the ultimate track muscle car as of yet, which would not only beat the fq, but would save you money.
Nick Motsarsky Wow the Evo is heavy. Shame on Mitsubishi for not keeping the Evos at as lean 2600-2800lbs.
At the end was a failed attempt to do a doughnut around the EVO like in the ZR1 vs GTR vid.
Thumps Up for Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. just a 4 cylinder car with 2 liter engine competing with Mustang Boss 302... 8 cylinder car. WOW no wonder Evo is most poplar car on grey market before. love the sun roof :) in EVO
A boosted (turbo) 4 cylinder dont forget because its nothing without that boost
@@SiCxNeMeSiS 4bangers can still make 210+ HP if you push it which is damn good for the amount of cylinders and displacement of only 2L
Keep in mind it took a 444 hp V8 to just barely beat out Mitsubishi's 4-cylinder turbo. Twice the cylinders, twice the horsepower, but just a second faster on a 1:20 course? That's a stock Evo too. Let's see how this race goes with a properly tuned Evo.
But it took the EVO AWD and DCT to allow it to corner with any semblance of handling ability. If the EVO was just FWD and turned a lap 1.54 seconds slower than the Boss, I'd concede an EVO victory, but each car needs it's advantages to make the most of what it's capable of in stock form.
An AWD Boss 302 would probably run 4+ seconds faster than the stock EVO and a 444hp EVO would do the same to a stock RWD Boss 302, so it's a fair comparison stock vs stock IMO......
this years anniversary edition Mitsubishi evo brand new from show room 440 bhp now that would kick ass
05gtdriver well said.... most people dont know shit about cars..
people think that just because the evo has less power and can almost do the same as a boss is better. .
guess what in a hot summer day turbos suck. evos are to make you feel twice the driver than you really are. mustang are for true drivers.
***** Gosh, such an extended explanation for something you're so convinced about. 1st off, reading comprehension is duly necessary to understand my post. Going by your EXTREMELY long winded post, so the EVO could take out a Boss 302 without being what it is?? I never said the EVO was modified in any way, share or form. If you could not sound like an irate parent and slowly reread my post, there's just a simple statement about each car's methods are what allow them to do the numbers they do. No fantasy cars(again, reading comprehension) were seriously considered, just making a theoretical example.
No one is challenging your manhood, no one is saying your preferences are unworthy.
Your extremely long post is disturbing.......
Either way evo is better, I don't understand the point of comparing a 444 hp car to a 291, let's compare this mustang too a gtr and see who will win
Would take the Boss 302 in a heartbeat
Driven both of these on long trips... Evo is a better track weapon but the Mustang is a more comfortable cruiser, plus the V8 sounds phenomenal
How many crowds did the mustang hit
Miami of Miami how many haters do you have?
we just got the 2014 evo mr and i just love the power and how it handles
Sure, the Mustang has 400+ hp and has a V8... But the fact that the EVO has not even half of the motor and has half the horsepower but was only 1 second behind says a lot js.
Import fanboys are the worst losers. "Lets see this go against my friend's 1k hp supra!" or "Wow they let it win because it's American" or even "That's not fair, the mustang has way more horsepower(even though they're essentially the same price)".
I traded my 2008 M3 (which is a V8) for a 2012 mustang 5.0 and performance wise theyre almost identical. So all you EVO fan boys who wish you could afford an M3 (and dont lie, you do) do some research or find a 5.0 to test drive. And dont even use that "with a few bolt-ons" excuse cause the same can be said for the mustang.
A used 2006 evo IX still cost from 20k$ to 30k$ and used stang is like 7k. So witch hold its value better again?
Care to go over those numbers 6 years later ? Used Mitsubishi is about 15k and the boss is still worth $30k...lol
@@Spiritcr1jsher just checked CarGurus and a low-mileage mint evo still goes for 35k.... Now over a hundred thousand miles tho 17K sounds about right
@@nicoray15 i agree . A mint boss 302 is still going for almost list and they still make Mustangs.
Ha Body roll like a boss! Cheap like a boss! Solid rear axle like a Boss! Leaf springs like a boss!
Most watched, because we need more dynamic comparos like this- comparisons that intrigue real car guys. It shows that you all are car people too.I think we need more import vs muscle videos, not everyone is biased one way or the other, so they are very relevant reviews.
Pretty embarrassing that with 153 extra horses the Mustang is only 1 second quicker. Impressive for the Evo.
awd and dual clutch, vs rwd and manual. Nothing impressive about it. Obviously if you think Horsepower is the only thing that makes cars have faster track times you are uneducated about cars. It's made for the track, it has brembos, & eibach springs as well. Its an even match.
The Boss Mustang beats the "EVO" by 10 seconds at Virginia International Raceway's 4.1 mile Road Course, and that's per lap.
no whats embarrassing is the evo owner has to go around saying he got beat by a rwd mustang in its own game... go the the 1/4 track and the evo gets beats worse
some kids.
What are some other cars like the Evo? I know some of the cars that compete with it such as the ford focus st and subaru wrx sti or the golf gti. what else is there?
You've got the three you mentioned (ST, STI, and GTI). Then you also have the Golf R, Focus RS, Mini Cooper S JCW edition, Audi A1 Quattro, Fiesta ST, Seat Leon Cupra, RenaultSport Clio and Megane, Citroen DS3, and Peugeot 208....to name a few. Of course, most of those are hot hatches.
Nickolas Little That is assuming he doesn't live in north america. Sadly we don't get most of those cars. We don't get the forcus RS yet, nor any Citroen, or Renault, Peugot, or Seat. Aslo, we just got the golf R this year I believe, we also don't have the audi A1 yet. BUT at least we have all of the MINI models.
juderocks5 Yeah I live in NA too....there's way too many hot hatches/compacts that we don't get. But I'm pretty pumped about the RS coming here. Lol I'm not personally a fan of the MINI but the JCW edition isn't too bad....if you're into that sort of thing
I'm very excited about the rs happening, and it would be even better if they offered it in all wheel drive. I'm not a very big fan of the MINI myself but my girlfriend is and it's a huge step above the last car she drove so i'm fine with it. Personally I drive an EVO 8. My last sports car before this was a modified 2011 mustang GT, but when I drove the EVO I knew it would destroy the mustang anywhere but a drag strip so I just had to have it.
juderocks5 Good news! The RS is AWD, so I'm pretty stoked since my Focus is FWD. Yeah my GF is driving a Gran Prix....she has 0 interest in cars. Man it's a bummer about the EVO, I was always partial to them. Yeah that's the thing, I love Mustangs they're the reason I'm so into cars now but they aren't the best around the track unless you drop money on a 302 or Laguna Seca or hold out for the new Shelby.
2015 Ford Mustang
In terms of performance, the Mustang GT will still offer the 5.0-liter V8, and the article reads that the 2015 GT with the Performance package will actually be faster on the track than the Boss 302. Some other interesting tidbits about the new Mustang are the standard push-button starter, the availability of adaptive cruise control, an independent rear suspension, a 200-pound weight reduction (that at least somewhat will be afforded by using aluminum front fenders) and a wheelbase that measures the same 107.1 inches as the current design.
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Ford Mustang Boss 302 vs Mitsubishi Evo.
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why did he say 50% less hp ? the evo has 291 right ?x2 would be 582 hp not 444hp like the boss 50% of that is 222hp
Christian Ortiz Your getting literal...its a general statement they are not going to say 35.5% more HP than the other. Not a put down or trying to little it or make the Mustang seem like more than it is.
Christian Ortiz 50% is not x2. its 291 x 1.5=437
Anton V
that's right if you say that the mustang has 50% more hp than the mitsubishi, but thats not what the guy in the video said.
he said that the evo had 50% less hp than the mustang, so the starting point is the 444 hp of the mustang
444 - 50%of444 = 444-222=222 which is a lot less than the evo actually has.
btw.: not hating against the video, or anybody else, just wanted to clear that up
Oh sorry thats right 50% of the 444hp is 222 and the evo still has about 70hp more then that and 70 hp is alot to get . A and tunner and c.a.i is 30 hp .headers is like 15-20 hp and mufflers like 5 hp so after all that still only at 60 hp
Mustang for the race track, Evo for mountain hairpins, bumpy roads, off road, and winter weather. Done.
I love my BOSS 302, and I love having a little fun through friendly competition. I just hate when some of these guys take it way too seriously. 😆
I know aye, I have mad respect for both of these cars, I love me some American muscle and some JDM speed demons
All of you Import vs Muscle losers are just sad. *BOTH* of these machines are awesome, affordable and *FAST!* I don't give a rats ass who built these cars! I also don't care where they come from! America, Japan, Europe Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea. *HELL!* These cars can come from *Mars* for all I give a shit! If it's fast and looks good? It's getting my respect!
*DONE!*
Turtle Pops
Is tehre any thing more ricer than a bugati veyron? The guys weld togeter a VW v8 lol... Is there anything just more ricer than that? Cmon...
lol!
Will Import, Muscle Fans, and Euro Fans ever get along.
Just no
likenem no way
Sadly no, because dumbasses are so biased towards different cars and dont respect the capablities of other cars
Imports are best!!!! Lol jk
+Andrew L I'm pretty sure you are thinking of the camero not the Mustang
Very enjoyable and well done comparison. Personally, these cars are far enough apart that I consider them apples and oranges but I'm partial to awd and dual clutch trannys so give a little nod towards the Mitsu for that. I'm excited about the 2015 Mustangs with the addition of IRS across the board and it will be interesting to see how they test out. I think it was the power deficit that hurt the EVO more than the other variable here and it would be nice to see Mitsubishi updated with more horsepower in the future. 350 horses for the EVO would be just about right out of the box and would really put this car more on my radar.
I really dont get why everyone is so surprised and gloating about the mustang. Ford purposely built the Boss as a track car. It beat a car that is great at everything all around and does what it did in the track in the dirt too. As an all around car i would definitely go with the EVO without a doubt just more of a do anything kind of car.
***** Of course it is. I don't think that people even realize that basically all Muscle cars have the sole purpose of looking cool and being more fun to drive than almost any other car. They honestly were never intended as track cars or family cars, the invention of the pony car changed that a bit and allowed them to be used in those ways (to some extent).
Both are great cars, but you would look cooler driving around in an EVO.
+Tool0GT92 please explain how the fuck youd look cooler in an evo than a mustang. please.
+ODST172 When I drive around I see about 100 mustang GTs to 1 EVO, its a less common car, which I think makes it much cooler. Plus, I owned a lancer and it was an amazing car.
+Tool0GT92 I live in an area riddled with evos. My 5.0 is the rare one out here.
Mustang is fucking ugly lmao. Its for fucking old retarted people
ok
You are correct. David Pratte put down both official lap times.
LMAO the big sounds like the guy from Eastbound and Down ahhaha
"Kenny its your friend Stevey"
nice, I thought the same thing as soon as I heard his voice.
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Mouth Breathers
Wow with 150 more horsepower the boss only wins by 1 second lmao what a joke
At VIR the Boss beats it by 10s
No just no
A second is a huge amount of time on a track. The difference between a Camaro SS 1le and a FERRARI 458 ITALIA on a track (willow springs I believe, it's on motortrend) is UNDER A SECOND.
1.5 seconds is a huge split, and you not knowing this shows how qualified you are to be knocking on the Boss
davidusminimus The design goal of the Mustang was to beat an E92 M3 around Laguna Seca. It did. This Evo had no chance.
thats why they upgraded the mustang to a boss 302 instead of the GT because the ford had to have at least some chance of winning.
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The EVO's AWD system really is amazing! It just makes this car a superb tool for dancing around the track. The second you get on the power, it just rockets you on the other side with tons of grip.
The uhh.. The Boss 302 also comes with adjustable dampers. 4:55
I'm assuming that they r using low quality fuel for this comparo? I dunno, just doesnt seem right that the Mustang is quicker around a track.
This is a track car. A real track car. It makes twice as much power and weighs about the same as the Evo. Ford specifically tuned the car for track use
Matt Colegrove nope the car is not made for tracks
something is really wrong with this comparison
even in need for speed the evo out performs the boss 302 in every aspect .. the 302's acceleration, top speed and control are all close to zero
mohamd khaled Dude stop comparing things in games , its not real
but.That much amount of weight that car couldnt beat a lighter oponent like a GT86 or 370z
mohamd khaled LMAO. Need for speed. Truly shows that most import fans are children, keep playing your videogames
Brad Miller first of all the comment is several months old now and second i'm not even a gamer.. however car games nowadays try to make driving as realistic as possible i know this doesn't apply on NFS but in NFS the car specs are realistic for example the Bugatti is the fastest car in the world so it has the highest top speed in the game .. the evo is oneof the best handling cars so it is the most controllable car in the game .
Evo's are de tuned from the factory. 9 out of 10 Evo owners ditch the POS exhaust system and move up to a 3" exhaust and a ECU flash tune. Most after the tune will make 350-400 whp depending on the quality of the parts. You can do the same to a Boss 302 but the gains wont be that much. Depending on the track design (i:e more corners less straights) the stage 1 tuned Evo will win by a small margin but in stock form its close. Im not a big fan of Evo's but I like them. Im a subaru guy. But unfortunately the mustang will come and go in a year but the value of Evo's and STi's will stay.
Ooh a Subaru guy aye? Always love the rivalry between the Lancers and WRXs, actually is was because of that rivalry that I love both cars soo much, but I'm more a Evo guy idk I just love evos
you sound like a honda driver with that mentality. evo8/9/10 with boltons netting around 340whp at like 24psi, thats not impressing anyone. dont make your 300whp fwd platform talon sound like its not a pile.
tdwan100 i heard if you take off the bumper, hondas get an extra 30 horsepowers 😂 vtec baby
There's more than one way to skin a cat. The Mustang and the Evo take two totally different approaches toward the same goal: going fast. While the Mustang had faster track times in this comparison, I'd totally take the Evo. Its approach to making power is preferable to me. Also, you can make a ton more power very easily/cheaply with an Evo, something that tends to be much more true for turbo cars than N/A ones.
In fact, if you just took the difference in price between the two cars in this comparison (which is $4,305) and dropped it into the Evo to make it the same cost as the Mustang, the Evo would've annihilated that Boss in every way... Seriously...
Zack Richmond a 2014 mustang gt with the track pack will still beat that evo and cost less than the evo
Kevinb1821 www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33543&endYear=2014&modelCode1=MUST&showcaseOwnerId=459509&startYear=2014&makeCode1=FORD&searchRadius=200&showcaseListingId=396970149&mmt=%5BFORD%5BMUST%5BMUST%257CGT%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=398012253&Log=0 try 8 grand less
Kevinb1821 Perhaps. But maybe not. I'd still take the Evo.
+Zack Richmond Buy a base Mustang GT with the track pack and bolt on a supercharger or turbo for 5 grand. You can make 650 whp reliably with the 5.0, while the Evo will not be as reliable and being an Evo X, does not have the cheap power potential of the earlier 4G63 powered cars.
MAEguy That's a good option, I suppose. Bye, bye warranty though. But I guess that's a moot point with most mods.
For me, the truth is that Mustangs feel like boats. I much prefer the high-tech import feel associated with many of the Japanese cars. I, for instance, have a Mazdaspeed 3 and I love its driving dynamics. The proof really is in the pudding, though, and the fact is that Speeds are very competitive in auto-x.
Are you kidding me? EVO all day everyday
8>4
+Gary W-l-o-t I4+turbo>NA V8
Rorru Ropelius nah
That's all according to the "plan". In 2013 the Mustang broke it by adding excellent handling to a muscle car... And when something doesn't go according to plan, well, everyone loses their minds...
If Evo motors are so great, how come people don't swap then into anything such as 2jz's , ls motors, 5.0 and Rb
Bob jefferson Only murricans swap motors (or in 95%). Other people usually buy a good car with a good engine in it...
TheZoonder because there motors are usually better... ls motors are the best motors u can get and its great.
evo with 291hp vs a 444hp mustang and the difference is less than 2 sec? I say tune up that evo to 444hp and try that agean :P
To be fair, Autoguide went to Cayuga. It's a track that notoriously suits smaller, low power cars. Local time attacks have s2ks and miatas winning the events if it gives you an idea of just how tight the circuit is. It's really more of a motorcycle track than a car track. The time difference at a real circuit (say, Mosport) would be much larger.
Because stock vs modded totally makes sense here...
Leszek K. FWIW the evo is much less of a true drivers car.
If one wants to get out there and enjoy the rewarding thrill of actually manipulating the chassis (rather than have a car make all the correctiosn for you), then the Boss is your car (for this comparison). It's sharper, more direct on corner entry and you can't deny that v8 sound!!!
I didn't know that these people are so poor in math.
it is been said that Mitsubishi Lancer Evo is a lab for Drivers.
Until you drive a Manual V8 sports car with a nice exhaust you just won't get why someone would want it over a WRX STI or EVO. It just sounds and feels like awesomeness
The new Boss (2012) is by far the best stang in a LONG time.
evo is a rally car. put that mustang on the rally course then
haha yea i no. The evo comes stock rally ready. That mustang would legit fall apart on a dirt course. This video makes no sense. Comparing a rally built racer to a 440 hp muscle car is like racing a dirtbike against a cbr 1000 on asphalt
and then lets see who wins (evo of course) :D
look at it like this though, the mustang is better in a straight line and the evo is better off road, so your saying put the stang on a rally course? ok put that evo on a quarter mile as well. neither of these cars are best suited for track racing. they are both out of their element in this video.
the point im trying to make is that this comparison is pointless. dumb fucking video.
The Evo owner is butt hurt.
From the side, the Evo looks like a woman's tennis shoe.
But on that note, it's still a great car.
+M Coop but musteng look like box shose..
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Haha yeah I guess I can see that too now that you mention it.
I love my 2012 5.0! I got it for 25k brand new... But I would prefer the evo all day. Driving in the rain w my stand is no fun. I want AWD. Dual clutch tranny is also better. And the room!! I hate putting people in the back seat of my stang. It's for lil kids. If only I could get a new evo for 25k! Lol
I hope this video makes all you Evo lovers realize how much Mitsubishi is off their game. I probably shouldn't even say off their game because they won't ever be cool (fast) again it's obvious. While American cars have made huge engine advancements, imports such as Subaru and Mitsubishi haven't done a good thing since their first models hit the market in 2003 (the ones we fell in love with so fast).
I will say you just one thing... imagine Evo with 5.0 l engine. That's all!
well write to Mitsubishi and tell them about this car we would all buy.
I love the Evo, but I would have to agree with you on this. Mitsubishi and Subaru seem to be playing it a tad bit safe these past few years and I have to hand it to Ford for the improvements they've made to the Mustang. I would still personally pick an Evo over a Mustang, because I'm biased, but I wouldn't mind letting that V8 roar!
you could spend 5k and it still wouldn't beat the stang, let that sink in :(
I can care less about beating anyone. I just love the Evo, plan and simple. I don't care about who is faster than who lol.
Evo isn't made for track, it's a rally car. Unfair comparison!
The comparison is a fair one from a cost perspective, and relevant to me. I love my modified GT and my wife's EVO. Both very fun to drive, but built for different purposes.
Such a shame for Mustang! 2.5 times bigger engine and only 80lb-ft more torque... Weird comparison... Won't be surprised if you'll do a comparison between a bicycle and Mustang and Mustang will win... lol
You should probably read up on how a turbocharger works.
Strap a turbo on the boss 302 engine, and it will put down over 600hp. Displacement is not everything. Its how much air you can pump into those cylinders.
have fun paying 60 grand for a factory boosted mustang. my evo x at 35 grand would kill if you gave me 15 Grand to play with. hell even 10 grand
M Mccreesh Or throw a 3.4l Whipple on my cobra and I'll be pushing 650+ to the wheels. Your ricer wouldn't have a chance.
ahhaha wow guess you don't know cars at all
mitsubishi evo is the beast
Apparently, second place in a two car competition is what it takes to be a legend these days...
ok, now take them off road
ford has more wrc wins
Christian Ortiz in a mustang boss 302?
this such bs comparison they should compare it with a stage 3 turbo evo now let see whos faster
Billy Leung Slap a turbo on the Boss then let's see who's faster? Or maybe a fast shifting auto in the Boss? Or how about lets fabricate an AWD drivetrain for Boss? Stop coming up with excuses, It can go both ways.
Billy Leung lol it need a turbo to win
Do you know that people make money from posting videos like this on TH-cam? The more views the more they get... and also from the commercial running at the beginning and from the number of views. The view counter keeps climbing each time you come back.
JDM is better than some shitty american muscle. Just because you have more hp doesn't mean shit.
+Alex Shi Means your car is faster in every way.
fatboy19831 the whole point of an import is to get it tuned so a ford mustang vs a stock import is stupid.
Alex Shi Folks don't tune Mustangs?
fatboy19831 they do but they don't get the dame effect.
fatboy19831 ok obviously they are gonna want to tune ANY car wut i meant was plus upgrades like dual turbo
That's probably the American downgraded evo x mr with 291 horsepower BRING that shit to Europe face our FQ 400 real evo c
Love the 302. So impressed that a manual, RWD car can beat an awd, dct equipped Evo
Lmao, 150+ more horsepower and $5,000 more than the Evolution for a 1 Second more for overall lap. Gtfo Mustang fanboys..
you boutta cry bb?
can't forget how much faster it is on the drag strip.
+f2b.....f20bEG Lmao, i dont wanna race in straight line wtf.
whatever race it is when it comes down to the pink slip those 5k will come in handy then i will have both cars😂
+NRosanes So you'd still lose then.
LOL.. I'd pick the EVO.. But, who gets an EVO so they can keep it at stock performance anyway? Rice over Beef in my opinion!
i'd eat both for dinner, sounds tasty. but yeah, i agree XD
Whats the difference with the evo uro edition he says... search you tube mitsubishi evo vs lambo and watch what a refined factory evo can do. I believe top gear does this review. Mustang does have boss horse power over the evo that is slow as shit lol. I guess evo handles a tiny bit better. I wonder what last generation mustang could do against last generation evo. Hint solid rear truck axel.
well they're not talking about last gen. and the evo in production form. Like other guy said bump the evo to 444hp. Well then the Evo becomes a60k car and gets on the turf of the 662hp GT500. the compare is fair and if you like small turbo cars that's your fault but don't whine wen your team loses.
Hint: stangs that are about to show up in dealerships in a few months have independent rear suspension.
Mustang may have muscle but it has no brains whatsoever. A 444 of wasted horsepower. Leave the brains to the Japanese...
Prove it on the blacktop :)
Only in 'Murica... Never seen such a bad comparison :')
+Gebruikersnaam10011 They are Canadian...
+TassieLorenzo which is on the continent of...?
Gebruikersnaam10011 Hahahaha, good point :)
What's wrong with the comparison?
+gentlemonsterkennels maybe that the engine in the Ford has twice as many cylinders and 2,5 times as big? Besides that, the evolution can handle much more g's in the corner than the way-too-heavy ford. It's just that the driver is a total wimp. American cars just miss the finesse and precision of non-American cars. The Ford uses more than twice the mpg? But who cares, God bless ignorant 'Murica.
2 awesome cars, hard choice between the 2, but for a few G's more I'd buy the Boss 302.
Freaking Evo any given day!
Compares EVO to Porsche 911 lol wtf
BOSS, BOSS, BOSS!!! pure American power!!! And also gorgeous!!!
5.0L v8 vs 2.0L I-4
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Seems fair.
So you're telling me different drivers, and the fuckin automatic transmission on the Evo? Haha come one. The Evo BONE STOCK can be tuned to well over 330 hp AT THE WHEELS and already crush that stang. There's so much wrong with this comparison I don't even want to get myself any more angry than watching this already has. Hahaa
A 2 liter 4 cilinder with 291hp vs a 5 liter V8 with 444hp. Way to go Murica youve done it again. The engine of the Ford is literally 250% of the Mitsubishis engine size. Its good to see that they need 250% the engine size and 153 more hp to shave off just 1 second of a laptime. The only reason these cars are being compared is because they cost around the same. But dont forget that anywhere outside the US, the Boss would be at least 2 times more expensive than the Evo.
I own a Mitsubishi and the EVO would kill that mustang in a race
whitesnake and a mullet? I thought he was driving a mustang, not a camaro!
There is a difference? Hey, in the 1980s Camaros, Mustangs and Corvettes were EVERYWHERE and crazy popular with the mullet crowd. If not so much a rap on these cars as it is the lack of excitement about other cars at the time.
Except the guys today that drive camaros still look like they're out of the 80's lol
David Slaymaker Maybe. Last guy I saw that really looked the part was actually in a Corvette......but that's another story. Next year changes everything for the Mustang but as it stands today, right now, with it's "live" axl. the Mustang is the car most connected to it's 1980s heritage.
Dogboy1960 not really..the 2014 mustang is still a badass looking car and is fast as shit for the money
a 7 years old Mit Evo & technies still alive against brand new cars of today, that's amazing!!!
FQ400.
Just put some boltons on that evo and say bye bye to the boss.
It might surprise you to know that the 5.0 responds very well to bolt-ons too. There are quite a few Mustang GTs and Bosses out there with bolt-ons and a tune making over 440whp.
hartsickdisciple Generally all evos on simple boltons like tb exhaust, intake, intercooler piping, get above 300 whp, like 340-350 whp, but even if you count that extra 100 to the mustang, rear wheel drive would be harder to push around on the track, and the evo is forgiving and easy to drive fast, I mean I feel very safe in my evo, but I don`t really feel safe in a rear wheel drive car going fast in the corner and the rear end breaking scares me.
Nagy Szilard that would be because it requires skill to drive a high HP RWD car around a track........you feel safe because the computer is driving for you.....skill> computer
shatup
put some bolt ons on the mustang as well and evo will be right in its place. the dealership
I dont understand your question. but if youre asking if Evo can do 200 mph the answer is obviously no. Its a 4 cylinder 2.0L engine. its not meant to go 200 mph
Haha.. Why is that ur comparing a tuner car to a muscle car?..
Sometimes I Envy America, their car is just fucking cheap. Only $43k and you get Mustang? Here in SEA you will only get the very basic Corolla. I will be fucking rich if I live in America :(
You can get a nicely-equipped Mustang GT with over 420hp for under $35k.
Regardless of all the stats and 'well if you mod it' arguments, one thing I will say about the Evo's is that even a regular driver can push the car and put down times close-ish to the times published using professional drivers, whereas alot of these big v8 rwd cars require more skill to match those times. This is why you will see mustang gts, camaro ss, etc running 14+ second quarter mile times at the strip.
its a 4 cylinder 2liter with 150 less ponies yet is almost running identical times...evo wins period.
lol the mustang cant run rings around the evo even though it does
Oh come on, really? You have compared 291 and 444? don't be stupid. My friend has Mitsubishi Evolution with 720 hp and THIS IS NOT A LIMIT, so this Mustang will nervesly smoke in the corner.
Dislike. Compare equal cars, without such difference in HP.
What if the mitsubishi was v8 ?
Lol
well now that wouldn't be fair now would it lol, i love it when american muscle car fanboys argue about mustangs and camaros, one says camaro is junk, the other says mustangs is junk, i'm guessing they're all junk lol, am i right?
it's faster than r35 now
cause gtr has v6
Evo is supercharged, so the comparison was fair enough.
EVO is turbocharged dumbass
Buahhhahahha Mustang beats Evo.. LOL... In what world!!???? Planet USA?? Do you people realize that We can watch this video in Europe too?? In the next Mustang advert try to make some effort and don't compare it to the slowest Evo....
All car same. Do not worst. All cars good.
Boss 302 dumbass. It beats the E92 M3 around Laguna Seca. Become educated and leave your old biases behind. Then go drive one. You will understand.
hartsickdisciple E92 M3 is not that hard to beat.. Evo FQ-400 would beat it too.. you read between the lines.. My point was they took the slowest Evo you dumbass..
Haszyk Recordings They used the Evo that's available to purchase in the US. Dumbass yourself.
This test was made to support USA economy. No way in sector 3 specially the mustang beats evo
Look.. Americans can't take corners.. And they talk about "handling"
Like another video that shows z06 faster than Nissan gtr....WAKE UP AMERICANS,,,haha
You should research more on the corvette and the gtr on the track and come back and look at that sentence.
Great video, fantastic cars, splendid ending. :-)
the eve is so much nicer then the UGLY MUSTANG! EVO IS ALL QUALITY!
Since when is Mitsubishi known for a quality? It has the same cheap interior as the base Lancer. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Ryan Mc lol for reals
Quality? Its a beast of a performance car but you went full potato saying its all quality. A 2000 civic SI has a better interior lol.
Evo is nice but Ford is known for better quality than Mitsubishi, just saying.
Marcello Wheeler I definitely agree with you!!!