What a race! I thought nothing could beat Strade for the year but this beats it. Also, respect to the guys on the motorbikes who were in pretty serious danger throughout. We know the cyclists are heroes but they deserve a pat on the back too.
Respect to the brave camera motorider who decided to better crash in the field at the side of the road than hitting the rider on the road in front of him
WOW. Breathless. Chapeau Cobrelli! WVA is very honest in his interviews, and I think he's mentally fatigued after a long couple of seasons and expectations. Thanks to all for truly an epic race!
I don't understand the criticism against Colbrelli from those who say that he sucked VDP wheel today. He attacked with 80km to go and as soon as VDP caught him he was the only one sharing pulls up front with him until they caught the Vermeersch group, he instantaneously went on the front with VDP as soon as they caught him, got up front again and attacked when they caught Moscon, neutralized Vermeersch attack with 3km to go and was still pulling with 1.5 km to go. Other than that if you have VDP with you it's only natural to have him do some work especially on the cobbles, not everybody is as tactically incompetent as Evenepoel was with Sonny himself...
There is pulling and soft pulling, taking a turn and taking a short turn. I sure someone could analyse the relative time on the front but the outcome won’t change.
My first time watching the race - what an experience. I really enjoyed Walscheid's ride, I hope he finds a good team for next year. I will look for him in the spring classics.
Would’ve loved to see Vermeersch take this one, WVA take rainbows and Roglic take TDF, but oh well…. Thanks for making bike racing better, Lantern and Benji 👍🏼
Can someone explain why a lowly regarded rider would be called a pancake or a waffle? Benji mentioned that another show uses the term pancake. Anyone know which show that is?
What a fabulous race. It's pretty rare I tune in from the very beginning and stay gripped to the race, but today I couldn't take my eyes away! You hear legends about wet Paris Roubaix editions and the reality did not disappoint. One of my favourite little Roubaix moments was when Guillaume Boivin (I think) hit the deck on a sloppy cobble section and the camera bike following behind had to take evasive action, with the cameraman quickly joining him on the cobbles. We got a good action replay from POV of the tumbling cameraman 😆
"Paris-Roubaix 2016, the darkest day in Belgian history", well played! Vermeersch actually sprinted really well, he let a 2-3m gap open so that he could pick up speed before passing them, that was a smart move.
i woke up late and watched only the last 5km, and i laughed so hard at how the three leaders looked going into the velodrome. without seeing the earlier drama, the final lap looked like a comedy haha.
Great moment at ~140k to go. Full on rain, wind etc. One spectator is heroically battling the elements next to one of the first cobble sections. He's holding onto an illegible cardboard sign with both hands and his blue rain poncho is flapping around him in the wind and the rain. Then, the moment he's been waiting for for weeks. There they come, the modern gladiators on their bikes, still relatively mud-free. The man exitedly turns to the peloton that's storming through the mud... and disaster strikes! The wind catches his rain poncho whips it up and completely covers his head. With no hands available to pull the blue plastic off his face, the unknown spectator misses the entire peloton going by and becomes yet another victim of the horrific weather on this sunday in hell.
My first PR as finding broadcast in usa in past not possible. What a super spectacle , continously riveting and on edge for 5 hours no doubt my favorite one day race. Chapeau also to all riders that emptied their tanks. You can tell by the emotions displayed by riders at end how this is not just another race and how much a win means here.
Boras best rider was 53rd. Shame they had so much bad luck but on the other hand i think Bora took a step back this year. Sorry for sagan to finish his Bora time like this...
Peter is already on a decline but still their best one day rider. With him gone they do not have a need-to-keep-him-in-check favorite for spring classics.
Apart from Wout's literal poor positioning on the road, he seems to habitually get himself into race positions that make it impossible for him to win. After not being on MVDP's wheel and letting him get a 30 second gap, he was basically screwed no matter what he does. If he has the legs, and drags his group up to MVDP over around 10km with 50km to go, he's probably burnt too many matches to win, and if he doesn't close the gap, everyone looks at him and the gap balloons out to 90s and he's still screwed. I feel like if you know you're gonna get the Sagan treatment in every race, then keeping teammates with you is even more important, and TJV dropped the ball a bit there.
I think Wout van Aert's season has just been way too long. The guy was going all out in the early spring classics, rode the tour, the olympics, the WC, and Roubaix in october. There are limits to what can be achieved in a single year. He should just take a long break, return next year with fresh legs, and produce another insane series of high status victories and podiums. The situations he gets into on the road in this late section of the season seem to be a symptom of that, rather than bad positioning. Or maybe it's more of a domino effect, where one little mistake (or possibly not even a mistake but just a bit of bad luck) early on, forces you into a shoddy position just a little bit later, when something else happens that wouldn't have happened to you if only you'd have been a bit further at the front, and you keep having to solve one problem after another, chasing your own ideal position that you just can't seem to reach.
Memorable moments: - Crosswinds and splits, - Laporte foot braking, - Kung clearly getting more and more psyched out with every crash. - The Rowe/Pederson crash, could only happen at Roubaix. The riders coming at him full tilt not being able to change line, so bizarre. - The difference in Moscon after that new bike. - Seeing an aerial shot and clean backs, momentarily forgetting that the riders are totally caked in mud. Epic race, and I don't think anyone got seriously injured? One for the history books.
The only serious injury is actually for an Alpecin rider who fall during the recon and broke his pelvis, quite unlucky for him and also amazing nobody else got badly injured during the race !
Benji : goshh I should have prepare for this Also benji: proceed to spit facts about guillaume boivin on top of his head like he his the universal cycling encyclopedia hahaha! Props for the great pod again!
OMG 0:03 now that's a Photo! Guillaume Boivin Is from Quebec where he surely has learned to ride a Bike in icy snow conditions for 3 months of the year. Quebec is also known for the worst roads in Canada, so cobbles no problem!
A few km before the finish, MVDP rode relatively hard on the front after an attack from someone else had been neutralized and I thought: looks like MVDP doesn't have any snap in his legs anymore and that's why he is keeping the tempo high. In the end, it looked that way in the finish. He beat himself by riding too hard at the front too often and too long. The commentators said MVDP was pulling so hard (when the group was bigger), noone else could relay him because they had trouble even holdig his wheel. For me, there was only one winner with 10km to go and he won.
Mvdp was unbelievable. Wva again leaving too many gaps and having to do too much work to bring it back and everyone else expecting him to. Amazing race, so much respect for the bike handling of all of the riders. Such a muddled, befuddled mess you never knew what was happening, or what was going to happen! Epic...
I feel like there's a pattern forming, where Wout Van Aert underperformes in those 'attrition type races'. He seems to thrive in hard 'but-not-so-hard' races. If he had good lags today, he's position would be better. Anyway best moment or moments is how MVP got 10m gap on every cobbled corner; God-tier bike handling.
That’s like a normal mountain bike race in Alaska. We had races where we would start with brand new cables and housings and they would all need replacement by the end of the race. Fortunately not every race though; it would get extremely expensive!
What I recall of Cobrelli is that he was suppose to be leading a race to win but made a wrong turn after following a motorcycle by mistake losing his chance. Though later on he's been winning races afterwards and then Paris Roubaix!
I think a big factor for Wout is the accumulated fatigue and heavy race calendar shaving off a few percent of his maximum. XC + spring classics+ Tour+ Olympics+ worlds + PR is a incredibly grueling race calendar and where in that space do you place the peak? Would he have benefitted from skipping e.g. the Tour of Britain? Possibly...
Amazing racing but I just struggle watching Colbrelli win. I know he wasn't a nobody beforehand, but since joining Bahrain his results are unbelievable. Too many real strange results in general from people in that team.
He's been at Bahrain since 2017 and he won 11 races in the first 4 years before his 8 wins in 2021. In the 4 years with Bardiani between 2013-2016 he won 15 races. I don't see anything that would suggest strange results besides the fact that this year he won more WT races instead of the Italian races (most of which are historic races anyways). Would you mind to explain which strange results are you referring to? Or need we assume that any team which starts to consistently win races (did someone say Alpecin Fenix?) must be involved in some shady business?
He scored 75 second places in his career. 75. I do think that this number might tell you that he's not a nobody out of nowhere, but someone Who reached tactical intelligence and his physical maturity
@@riccardotassinari6931 I literally said "I know was NOT a nobody". I get that he was up there a lot. It's just the sudden increase in form regarding climbing/endurance.
WC, EC and PR really were three bangers at the end of this season. Is it just me or does it feel like the season is over (persobally im not hyped for lombardia sadly)
That's the beauty of being a cyclocross fan: when the road season finishes the big CX races just started, and the last CX race of the season is one week before Omloop. It never ends basically :D.
I think WvA has a big race like this in his legs, but his form was going downhill while Mvdp's form was going up. He repeated the same pattern twice this year: altitude camp, coming back and peaking right away when it was probably not the plan, shredding Tirreno (lost GC only to a super strong Pogacar, even winning a short ITT against Ganna), podium at MSR but at RvV his legs were already gone. September same thing: back from altitude training he teared Tour of Britain apart but for Worlds and even more Roubaix his legs were already gone. He needs to learn how to peak properly for next year.
there's something bout that colbrelli fella that just doesn't sit right; that mawkish display at the ended just confirms it. brutal race & thoroughly enjoyed it 'cept rowe & sonny wheellicker
Why should it be fake? The guy just won the most important race of his entire career to date (and possibly ever) after going through hell for 6/7 hours, I think he's entitled to show his emotions any way he sees fit
Hot takes: Colbrelli is a wheel sucker but is better than seeing mascon winning Karma for mascon Crashes and mechanicals made the race Mvdp is too confident in his sprint Mid South is more epic Alaphillipe would have won this race ;)
What a race! Finish reminded me of the old joke....’Question: Three riders are 5km from a false flat finish - a puncheur, a sprinter and a rouleur. Who’s best bet to win? Answer: The Italian!’
Can Vermeersch time trial? I recall him timetrailing on Vuelta and he was average. On the other hand I recall Dillier beating Bissiger on TT national championships not that far ago and riding some decent TTs on giro in the past as well.
Crazy idea, but there exist some solutions on the market for integrated pumps in the wheel. I very well see such a technology appear in the next decade. Weight penalty is roughly 250g per wheel but you can wirelessly adjust your tire pressure between cobbles and smooth tarmac. It would be such a game changer for races like today.
@@nickmullen2830 Then why not banning Di2 with that logic? Or Computers/Radios/Powermeters? As long as the electronic assist doesn't power the forward movement of the bike I guess it's acceptable.
I wondered if laporte was trying to seal a tubeless plug? You can see white flicking over on his tyres, which presumably was sealant... otherwise definitely brakes. Could he have run out of disk pads somehow?
Hard lesson for MVDP to learn that you can't tow guys to the line for 60km and expect to win. He did so much more work than he needed to. And especially once they caught Moscon, MVDP still did the bulk of the work when he really didn't need to. It's hubris the way he rides. As always, probably the strongest rider of the day, but terrible tactics costing him the W.
@@boetjedengel6281 No idea. It made no sense to me. He might have been getting hot seen as they started in the cold, and the sun had been out for a while by the end, so when he had a chance he slipped them off. But it was definitely less than 10km to the end, so it made no sense to be faffing with shoe covers to me. I can't think it was to satisfy sponsors.
you could have roasted Rowe a little harder on the pod imo , that was extremely reckless and Mads P was looking good up till that point. Otherwise great recap
Just one year of outstanding results and I am already done with Sonny Colbrelli, fabulous victory, but the fake crying was a bit to much and his eat your plate first mentality irks me. Linkebal we call that. Straight up, it is just the disappointment that MvdP did not manage to win. Heart also goes out to the infamous Moscon whose unfortunate series of events fucked him over real hard. That new bike handled like shit probably tire pressure indeed
Well yeah it was a bit of extra, but I think we can forgive him for a brain black out after winning that race, his first monument, in those terrible conditions, against the likes of Mvdp, Wva & co., first italian after 22 years, kind of the highest moment of his career
This is the Cobrelli that was stronger than pure climbers in the Tour De France last year. Suddenly at 30+ he is winning everything. It doesn't make sense and it's very suspicious. Riding for Bahrain doesn't help his case.
@@spaketticarbonada9651 how fun to see butthurt assholes trying to troll AND insulting someone's culture in the same moment... You'd gain credibility if your name wasn't such an obvious attack to Italy, but I guess you couldn't figure it out by yourself. You're welcome ;)
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast Yeah, that's true, he's a bit old for getting all of them :D but if he was 10 years yunger i think it would have been possible.
"Bit of a shame"? What Rowe did was an absolute dick move, endangering other riders; lucky that more of that group wasn't taken out by what he did. Someone of his experience should know better. On the subject of Ineos, I kinda feel for Moscon (weirdly!) cos he rode magnificently until that puncture.... Incredible race overall, though, absolute heroes out there.
Why didn’t MVDPs DS tell him to stop towing the guy who crossed the line first. MVDP is such a talent and exciting to watch but he was clearly being used so why didn’t his DS advise some tactics. He vastly more accomplished than most but this isn’t the first time this year where he just needed some input from his DS. I think today was an epic race MVDP should of and would have won or had second to FV. They both deserved it more than the Italian. The contributed as did GM was fantastic and it was such a shame he had the mechanicals. The European jersey wearer needs to show he’s a legitimate champion forget the histrionics and prove he’s not just a wheel sucker.
I guess you did not watch the race and only watched highlights, read some comments and came here to write a random opinion? I love to see all the sore VDP and Remco fanboys trying to realize that someone else might win in their place, and this time there was no need to sit on VDP wheel either ;)
@@luigibrioschi970 Yes watch 3 + hours of it. I like to see those who do the work and contribute equally, profit. I don’t gamble but I like good competition where the best man / women wins. SC could of easily put in some more work and taken his chances. Then it would have been a more worthy result. This result comes after employing the same negative tactic, sitting on to take the prize of the European jersey off the wonder kid. To be a worthy wearer of the jersey he really need to show he’s the man not just a user. MVDP was a bit of an idiot to lead out but he doesn’t seem to learn from other races, i.e. regardless of his talent he can be beaten. It was clear that MVDP was making most of the effort for the last 30 to 50 km+. He’s a fantastic exciting combative rider, champion, better than so many, but just needs to wise up. His failure at the Olympic Mountain bike race was an illustration he just doesn’t listen or seem to know what’s going on. Where was his team DS and why wasn’t he advising.
Mvdp would have been the only deserving winner. It's a shame how suddenly Colbrelli is winning everything and even beating pure climbers in mountain stages in the last Tour De France. Very suspicious . They probably just train harder at Bahrain and that's what made him win all these races suddenly at age 31+ . Must be muscle maturity.
Apparently Laporte lost his brakes. Hence the “foot break” move 😉 th-cam.com/video/q_G_px8GrdU/w-d-xo.html Thanks for your podcast, always awesome to listen to ! Great edition for sure. Open question will we see the world champion Alaphilippe at his best on Paris Roubaix ? What do you think ? 😉
WVAart annd MVDP are basically f*cked - they are marked men, because they are significantly better than other riders. They should out-wait others, and ride in their wheel ('doing a Cadel Evands' ) . But actually they shouldn't because then cycling would be boring again.
Same story repeated for Colbrelli as in the EU champs: making others work hard and stay in the wheel until 200m to go to take the sweet from the kids Evenepoel and MVDP. Not deserved than, not deserved now. If to Evenepoel we can point tactical immaturity, MVDP is a seasoned rider, so don't get why he let himself be tricked. Sad for Moscon the one italian that deserved the win today.
I really don't undersatnd why people say Colbrelli sucked the wheels. He attacked at 80+ kilometers from the finish. He worked with Mvdp on the flat sections. Mvdp did most of the work on the cobbles but being in front on the cobbles isn't such a disadvantage. And no rider complained that he wasn't working, he didn't compromise any break by not working, I didn't see any rider waving him through and him not taking a turn. If the big favourite who rode everyone off his wheel was in a group with you with 70 kilometer to go and multiple 5 stars sectors ahead, you wouldn't try to keep your energy as much as possible.
Clearly you haven't seen all the race. But let's assume you are right, then next roubaix will be a time attack race so we will be all happy and the strongest will win. Like Remco in the european and world championship, why mvdp after reaching moscon pull that hard? Haven't you seen that he was pushing with his shoulder? He also didn't gain time during the chase to moscon and obviously colbrelli will never close the gap to moscon because he is an italian team mate. Mvdp was finished at 20km to the end, maybe before. He was pulling that hard only to maintain a podium and, mainly, not to give van Aert a chance to win
1) MVDP didn't drop Lampart, he had his second puncture on the MVDP's wheel 2) Lampart and Sep Vanmarck add 3 bike/wheel changes do to mecanical issues... 3) i think Lampart and Moscon where the 2 strongest today But the first one had bad luck and the second one had a terribly bad mecanical ! Who the fuck puts more pressure in the second bike of Moscon !!!!????? I think Moscon can be very angry against the mécanicien, this guy should be fired !
Today we could see why Paris - Roubaix is the most famous one day race there is.
Fact. 😍
Literally hitting refresh for the last 90mins!
Clearly not hard enough. 😏😜
What a race! I thought nothing could beat Strade for the year but this beats it. Also, respect to the guys on the motorbikes who were in pretty serious danger throughout. We know the cyclists are heroes but they deserve a pat on the back too.
Respect to the brave camera motorider who decided to better crash in the field at the side of the road than hitting the rider on the road in front of him
WOW. Breathless. Chapeau Cobrelli!
WVA is very honest in his interviews, and I think he's mentally fatigued after a long couple of seasons and expectations.
Thanks to all for truly an epic race!
I don't understand the criticism against Colbrelli from those who say that he sucked VDP wheel today. He attacked with 80km to go and as soon as VDP caught him he was the only one sharing pulls up front with him until they caught the Vermeersch group, he instantaneously went on the front with VDP as soon as they caught him, got up front again and attacked when they caught Moscon, neutralized Vermeersch attack with 3km to go and was still pulling with 1.5 km to go. Other than that if you have VDP with you it's only natural to have him do some work especially on the cobbles, not everybody is as tactically incompetent as Evenepoel was with Sonny himself...
Agree 100% I honestly starting to think that some VDP fans watched another PR, or maybe they're trying to search an excuse
There is pulling and soft pulling, taking a turn and taking a short turn. I sure someone could analyse the relative time on the front but the outcome won’t change.
@@playstation16197 The reason is VDP has got "blue blood"...he has the right to win.
My first time watching the race - what an experience. I really enjoyed Walscheid's ride, I hope he finds a good team for next year. I will look for him in the spring classics.
Awesome that you enjoyed it! 😃
Would’ve loved to see Vermeersch take this one, WVA take rainbows and Roglic take TDF, but oh well…. Thanks for making bike racing better, Lantern and Benji 👍🏼
"these aren't rookies. These aren't waffles!" Benji, 2021
"Benji can speak better English than me" LR, 2021
Some day, Benji has to tell us, why he is so fluent
@@copykillscopying I think from his Twitter he said he played runescape growing up which has aided his fluency.
Can someone explain why a lowly regarded rider would be called a pancake or a waffle? Benji mentioned that another show uses the term pancake. Anyone know which show that is?
@@garypremo WEDU, LA's podcast
@@garypremo It's from a Flemish cycling idiom, a pancake ("pannenkoek" in Dutch) means you're bad.
My first time watching a one day classic; absolutely thrilled and won’t soon forget it!
What a fabulous race. It's pretty rare I tune in from the very beginning and stay gripped to the race, but today I couldn't take my eyes away! You hear legends about wet Paris Roubaix editions and the reality did not disappoint.
One of my favourite little Roubaix moments was when Guillaume Boivin (I think) hit the deck on a sloppy cobble section and the camera bike following behind had to take evasive action, with the cameraman quickly joining him on the cobbles. We got a good action replay from POV of the tumbling cameraman 😆
"Paris-Roubaix 2016, the darkest day in Belgian history", well played!
Vermeersch actually sprinted really well, he let a 2-3m gap open so that he could pick up speed before passing them, that was a smart move.
i woke up late and watched only the last 5km, and i laughed so hard at how the three leaders looked going into the velodrome. without seeing the earlier drama, the final lap looked like a comedy haha.
Canadian national champion; Guillaume Boivin, WOAH...O-M-G, WHAT A RIDE...so happy to see him up there!!👍😲
Fantastic race, fantastic win by Sonny ❤️🇮🇹
Great moment at ~140k to go. Full on rain, wind etc. One spectator is heroically battling the elements next to one of the first cobble sections. He's holding onto an illegible cardboard sign with both hands and his blue rain poncho is flapping around him in the wind and the rain.
Then, the moment he's been waiting for for weeks. There they come, the modern gladiators on their bikes, still relatively mud-free. The man exitedly turns to the peloton that's storming through the mud... and disaster strikes! The wind catches his rain poncho whips it up and completely covers his head. With no hands available to pull the blue plastic off his face, the unknown spectator misses the entire peloton going by and becomes yet another victim of the horrific weather on this sunday in hell.
My first PR as finding broadcast in usa in past not possible. What a super spectacle , continously riveting and on edge for 5 hours no doubt my favorite one day race. Chapeau also to all riders that emptied their tanks. You can tell by the emotions displayed by riders at end how this is not just another race and how much a win means here.
Wow! Wow! Wow!! Race of the Decade for me! What an emotional final and victory by Colbrelli!
Boras best rider was 53rd. Shame they had so much bad luck but on the other hand i think Bora took a step back this year. Sorry for sagan to finish his Bora time like this...
Peter is already on a decline but still their best one day rider. With him gone they do not have a need-to-keep-him-in-check favorite for spring classics.
Apart from Wout's literal poor positioning on the road, he seems to habitually get himself into race positions that make it impossible for him to win. After not being on MVDP's wheel and letting him get a 30 second gap, he was basically screwed no matter what he does. If he has the legs, and drags his group up to MVDP over around 10km with 50km to go, he's probably burnt too many matches to win, and if he doesn't close the gap, everyone looks at him and the gap balloons out to 90s and he's still screwed. I feel like if you know you're gonna get the Sagan treatment in every race, then keeping teammates with you is even more important, and TJV dropped the ball a bit there.
I think Wout van Aert's season has just been way too long. The guy was going all out in the early spring classics, rode the tour, the olympics, the WC, and Roubaix in october. There are limits to what can be achieved in a single year. He should just take a long break, return next year with fresh legs, and produce another insane series of high status victories and podiums.
The situations he gets into on the road in this late section of the season seem to be a symptom of that, rather than bad positioning. Or maybe it's more of a domino effect, where one little mistake (or possibly not even a mistake but just a bit of bad luck) early on, forces you into a shoddy position just a little bit later, when something else happens that wouldn't have happened to you if only you'd have been a bit further at the front, and you keep having to solve one problem after another, chasing your own ideal position that you just can't seem to reach.
Epic race. Benji clearly jinxed Moscon. So don't let him near your winning lottery ticket 😂
Think everyone wants Moscon to lose, nobody really cares if someone wins a lotto ticket or not
Memorable moments:
- Crosswinds and splits,
- Laporte foot braking,
- Kung clearly getting more and more psyched out with every crash.
- The Rowe/Pederson crash, could only happen at Roubaix. The riders coming at him full tilt not being able to change line, so bizarre.
- The difference in Moscon after that new bike.
- Seeing an aerial shot and clean backs, momentarily forgetting that the riders are totally caked in mud.
Epic race, and I don't think anyone got seriously injured? One for the history books.
The only serious injury is actually for an Alpecin rider who fall during the recon and broke his pelvis, quite unlucky for him and also amazing nobody else got badly injured during the race !
Yohh I was sooo upset that MVDP didn't win that
best Paris-Roubaix of last edition n1
Today was exactly how i remember those wet editions of Paris Roubaix. MvdP cornering was my moment of the day.
I didn't really expect Moscon today I was more looking for him for Lombardia and his form is definetly good
Benji : goshh I should have prepare for this
Also benji: proceed to spit facts about guillaume boivin on top of his head like he his the universal cycling encyclopedia hahaha!
Props for the great pod again!
Loved the recap guys
OMG 0:03 now that's a Photo! Guillaume Boivin Is from Quebec where he surely has learned to ride a Bike in icy snow conditions for 3 months of the year. Quebec is also known for the worst roads in Canada, so cobbles no problem!
A few km before the finish, MVDP rode relatively hard on the front after an attack from someone else had been neutralized and I thought: looks like MVDP doesn't have any snap in his legs anymore and that's why he is keeping the tempo high. In the end, it looked that way in the finish. He beat himself by riding too hard at the front too often and too long. The commentators said MVDP was pulling so hard (when the group was bigger), noone else could relay him because they had trouble even holdig his wheel. For me, there was only one winner with 10km to go and he won.
Benji, no mention of Campernaets? Did you think we'd forget about your prediction?
Mvdp was unbelievable. Wva again leaving too many gaps and having to do too much work to bring it back and everyone else expecting him to. Amazing race, so much respect for the bike handling of all of the riders. Such a muddled, befuddled mess you never knew what was happening, or what was going to happen! Epic...
Great podcast, time to go rewatch the race and yell at my dog for not paying attention to the race tactics!!!
you guys are very well spoken in the art of commentating … 👍
Sad for MVDP but what a win from colbrelli
Such a fantastic race. God I loved all of it. Boivin is my hero, I really wish he hadn't had that crash.
my pick finished 29:44 after the winner (OTL), call me king of predictions!
King of predictions! 👑
Wow what a race!!!
I feel like there's a pattern forming, where Wout Van Aert underperformes in those 'attrition type races'. He seems to thrive in hard 'but-not-so-hard' races.
If he had good lags today, he's position would be better. Anyway best moment or moments is how MVP got 10m gap on every cobbled corner; God-tier bike handling.
There's 1 big exception in this theory being Strade 2020, but I agree about the 2021 season. - Benji
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast Yeah it may be recency bias on my part, I guess will see next season
That’s like a normal mountain bike race in Alaska. We had races where we would start with brand new cables and housings and they would all need replacement by the end of the race. Fortunately not every race though; it would get extremely expensive!
What I recall of Cobrelli is that he was suppose to be leading a race to win but made a wrong turn after following a motorcycle by mistake losing his chance. Though later on he's been winning races afterwards and then Paris Roubaix!
Van Aert just peaks 2 week before his main target every single time.
Yes its oftwn the case
I think a big factor for Wout is the accumulated fatigue and heavy race calendar shaving off a few percent of his maximum. XC + spring classics+ Tour+ Olympics+ worlds + PR is a incredibly grueling race calendar and where in that space do you place the peak? Would he have benefitted from skipping e.g. the Tour of Britain? Possibly...
33:19 a momentous moment in the Pod, a new rider description being birthed.
Colbrelli himself said his development is similar to GVA who also entered his prime with 30. Fuglsang also would fit into that category
Haha not even ashamed
Amazing racing but I just struggle watching Colbrelli win. I know he wasn't a nobody beforehand, but since joining Bahrain his results are unbelievable. Too many real strange results in general from people in that team.
ouch, yea
He's been at Bahrain since 2017 and he won 11 races in the first 4 years before his 8 wins in 2021. In the 4 years with Bardiani between 2013-2016 he won 15 races. I don't see anything that would suggest strange results besides the fact that this year he won more WT races instead of the Italian races (most of which are historic races anyways). Would you mind to explain which strange results are you referring to?
Or need we assume that any team which starts to consistently win races (did someone say Alpecin Fenix?) must be involved in some shady business?
@@luigibrioschi970 Mark Padun?! I stand corrected on the contract length, although maybe that also proves my point a little...
He scored 75 second places in his career. 75. I do think that this number might tell you that he's not a nobody out of nowhere, but someone Who reached tactical intelligence and his physical maturity
@@riccardotassinari6931 I literally said "I know was NOT a nobody". I get that he was up there a lot. It's just the sudden increase in form regarding climbing/endurance.
25:49 my the looks of Colbrelli's celebration face he has definitely been watch 2016 Roubaix on repeat. Hand the Hayman face down to a tee
WC, EC and PR really were three bangers at the end of this season.
Is it just me or does it feel like the season is over (persobally im not hyped for lombardia sadly)
That's the beauty of being a cyclocross fan: when the road season finishes the big CX races just started, and the last CX race of the season is one week before Omloop. It never ends basically :D.
I think WvA has a big race like this in his legs, but his form was going downhill while Mvdp's form was going up. He repeated the same pattern twice this year: altitude camp, coming back and peaking right away when it was probably not the plan, shredding Tirreno (lost GC only to a super strong Pogacar, even winning a short ITT against Ganna), podium at MSR but at RvV his legs were already gone. September same thing: back from altitude training he teared Tour of Britain apart but for Worlds and even more Roubaix his legs were already gone. He needs to learn how to peak properly for next year.
This was the difference!
Also, im so sad for mvdp , he looked so damn disapointed on the podium I wanted to give him a hug lol
Last week was better but it was definitely in the top 2 days of racing this year
yeah totally agree the world champions was sooo good.
Memorable moment: the thumbs up of doom from the Ineos car shortly before Moscon punctures and finally crashing. 👍
Colbrelli, exhausted, happy sobbing
there's something bout that colbrelli fella that just doesn't sit right; that mawkish display at the ended just confirms it. brutal race & thoroughly enjoyed it 'cept rowe & sonny wheellicker
Explain mawkish?
@@HumaneNewt sentimental in an exaggerated or false way. Fake.
Why should it be fake? The guy just won the most important race of his entire career to date (and possibly ever) after going through hell for 6/7 hours, I think he's entitled to show his emotions any way he sees fit
He won(fair and square too), that's all.
@@luigibrioschi970 I simply defined mawkish for humanenewt thats all.
Hot takes:
Colbrelli is a wheel sucker but is better than seeing mascon winning
Karma for mascon
Crashes and mechanicals made the race
Mvdp is too confident in his sprint
Mid South is more epic
Alaphillipe would have won this race
;)
What a race! Finish reminded me of the old joke....’Question: Three riders are 5km from a false flat finish - a puncheur, a sprinter and a rouleur. Who’s best bet to win? Answer: The Italian!’
Favourite moment.. Luke Rowe wandering across arenberg section accidentally taking out 3 riders and himself
Colbrelli was great in the Tour: knocked out Roglič which helped his team get closer to the podium.
Still can't forgive him for that.. lol
Can Vermeersch time trial? I recall him timetrailing on Vuelta and he was average. On the other hand I recall Dillier beating Bissiger on TT national championships not that far ago and riding some decent TTs on giro in the past as well.
Fantastic, fantastic race.
Crazy idea, but there exist some solutions on the market for integrated pumps in the wheel. I very well see such a technology appear in the next decade. Weight penalty is roughly 250g per wheel but you can wirelessly adjust your tire pressure between cobbles and smooth tarmac. It would be such a game changer for races like today.
Blurs the boundaries. If they can control pressures wirelessly, next it will be disguised e bikes.
@@nickmullen2830 Then why not banning Di2 with that logic? Or Computers/Radios/Powermeters? As long as the electronic assist doesn't power the forward movement of the bike I guess it's acceptable.
Wasn't Jorgenson just dropped from the break and happened to be in the VDP group?
Good point.
Jorgensen was strong at the Tour of Britain
Animâted the race on a couple of the stages
Had Moscon at odds 125 for 30$, fun race!
TBH, i think WVA and MVDP are start to pass their peak form for this season based on previous result..
Nils Ehkov U23 world champ
I wondered if laporte was trying to seal a tubeless plug? You can see white flicking over on his tyres, which presumably was sealant... otherwise definitely brakes. Could he have run out of disk pads somehow?
Jorgenson has popped up on a couple of Phil Gaimons vids.
It was obvious from Colbrelli's interview that he had no clue who Vermeersch was
gva pain face best image for 5 hours lol
I used to think that I preferred pancakes, but I realized I like waffles better about a year ago.
Epic race. Just too much random things to be the best one of the season. Luck cant be more important than form, modest opinion.
12:33 the rat thing makes a noise??
Guess who was present on Carrefour de l arbre ? Moi ;-)
Been waiting for a while now hahah
I feal bad for Moscon and Colbreli did the EU🥇tactic.
like the video, subscribe and hope that the Giro di Lombardia is, if not as much, at least half as exciting as Paris Roubaix
Guys Remember colbrelli Is the real rainman
Moscon had it sob :))
"
They're not waffles!"
Hard lesson for MVDP to learn that you can't tow guys to the line for 60km and expect to win. He did so much more work than he needed to. And especially once they caught Moscon, MVDP still did the bulk of the work when he really didn't need to. It's hubris the way he rides. As always, probably the strongest rider of the day, but terrible tactics costing him the W.
🙋🏼♂️ *To Benji not LR.
😭 - LR
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast If you wave next video then I'll wave to you too. 😂
MvdP covered in mud but his shoes at the end were crystal white! How did that happen?
Took off his shoe covers about 5km from the end
@@GDF07 Ok, thank you! Do you know why? To satisfy the sponsors perhaps?
@@boetjedengel6281 No idea. It made no sense to me. He might have been getting hot seen as they started in the cold, and the sun had been out for a while by the end, so when he had a chance he slipped them off. But it was definitely less than 10km to the end, so it made no sense to be faffing with shoe covers to me. I can't think it was to satisfy sponsors.
@@boetjedengel6281 to not have heavy feet...
No relegation police for Luke Rowe? He even won the sprint from his group 20 minutes down.
We were planning to talk about it, but then didn't, but we certainly agree it's not okay.
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast It's okay too much to talk about today
After his TDF, i really wanted the redemption story for Luke Rowe, shame he had such a crap day.
you could have roasted Rowe a little harder on the pod imo , that was extremely reckless and Mads P was looking good up till that point. Otherwise great recap
Did it on Twitter instead. - Benji
Just one year of outstanding results and I am already done with Sonny Colbrelli, fabulous victory, but the fake crying was a bit to much and his eat your plate first mentality irks me. Linkebal we call that. Straight up, it is just the disappointment that MvdP did not manage to win.
Heart also goes out to the infamous Moscon whose unfortunate series of events fucked him over real hard. That new bike handled like shit probably tire pressure indeed
Well yeah it was a bit of extra, but I think we can forgive him for a brain black out after winning that race, his first monument, in those terrible conditions, against the likes of Mvdp, Wva & co., first italian after 22 years, kind of the highest moment of his career
This is the Cobrelli that was stronger than pure climbers in the Tour De France last year. Suddenly at 30+ he is winning everything. It doesn't make sense and it's very suspicious. Riding for Bahrain doesn't help his case.
@@spaketticarbonada9651 how fun to see butthurt assholes trying to troll AND insulting someone's culture in the same moment... You'd gain credibility if your name wasn't such an obvious attack to Italy, but I guess you couldn't figure it out by yourself. You're welcome ;)
Lampaert had flat tire when he followed MVDP and was droped shortly after
he can win all the monuments
Personally, I believe it's unlikely but he does have the skill to compete for the win on each. - Benji
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast Yeah, that's true, he's a bit old for getting all of them :D but if he was 10 years yunger i think it would have been possible.
A climby-sprinty-cobbly boy is henceforth knows as a Colbrelli boy.
genius, might have to use this
Gutted for Moscon, he reallly deserved the win. Such bad luck
"Bit of a shame"? What Rowe did was an absolute dick move, endangering other riders; lucky that more of that group wasn't taken out by what he did. Someone of his experience should know better. On the subject of Ineos, I kinda feel for Moscon (weirdly!) cos he rode magnificently until that puncture....
Incredible race overall, though, absolute heroes out there.
We both agree, we just forgot to diss Rowe for it. Too much to keep track of today. 😂
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast Fair, it was an absolutely action-packed race.
Why didn’t MVDPs DS tell him to stop towing the guy who crossed the line first. MVDP is such a talent and exciting to watch but he was clearly being used so why didn’t his DS advise some tactics. He vastly more accomplished than most but this isn’t the first time this year where he just needed some input from his DS. I think today was an epic race MVDP should of and would have won or had second to FV. They both deserved it more than the Italian. The contributed as did GM was fantastic and it was such a shame he had the mechanicals. The European jersey wearer needs to show he’s a legitimate champion forget the histrionics and prove he’s not just a wheel sucker.
I guess you did not watch the race and only watched highlights, read some comments and came here to write a random opinion? I love to see all the sore VDP and Remco fanboys trying to realize that someone else might win in their place, and this time there was no need to sit on VDP wheel either ;)
@@luigibrioschi970 Yes watch 3 + hours of it. I like to see those who do the work and contribute equally, profit. I don’t gamble but I like good competition where the best man / women wins. SC could of easily put in some more work and taken his chances. Then it would have been a more worthy result.
This result comes after employing the same negative tactic, sitting on to take the prize of the European jersey off the wonder kid. To be a worthy wearer of the jersey he really need to show he’s the man not just a user.
MVDP was a bit of an idiot to lead out but he doesn’t seem to learn from other races, i.e. regardless of his talent he can be beaten. It was clear that MVDP was making most of the effort for the last 30 to 50 km+. He’s a fantastic exciting combative rider, champion, better than so many, but just needs to wise up. His failure at the Olympic Mountain bike race was an illustration he just doesn’t listen or seem to know what’s going on. Where was his team DS and why wasn’t he advising.
I feel I am being demanding now, got the wave but not looking happy.
I'm always happy. 😄
Mvdp would have been the only deserving winner. It's a shame how suddenly Colbrelli is winning everything and even beating pure climbers in mountain stages in the last Tour De France. Very suspicious . They probably just train harder at Bahrain and that's what made him win all these races suddenly at age 31+ . Must be muscle maturity.
Mark padun gave colbrelli some climbing tips is all 😉
Apparently Laporte lost his brakes. Hence the “foot break” move 😉
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Thanks for your podcast, always awesome to listen to ! Great edition for sure.
Open question will we see the world champion Alaphilippe at his best on Paris Roubaix ? What do you think ? 😉
Thanks for the kind words, Pier! 🤗
WVAart annd MVDP are basically f*cked - they are marked men, because they are significantly better than other riders. They should out-wait others, and ride in their wheel ('doing a Cadel Evands' ) . But actually they shouldn't because then cycling would be boring again.
Sorry, but colrelli.... I call bull shit. Bahrain victorious. Nah alarms.
He sat on the wheel of MVDP the entire time, and Vermeersh was in the breakaway for 220km, so no wonder Collbrelli beat them at the end
@@alexhazard6871 mm that also makes sense.
Same story repeated for Colbrelli as in the EU champs: making others work hard and stay in the wheel until 200m to go to take the sweet from the kids Evenepoel and MVDP. Not deserved than, not deserved now. If to Evenepoel we can point tactical immaturity, MVDP is a seasoned rider, so don't get why he let himself be tricked. Sad for Moscon the one italian that deserved the win today.
I really don't undersatnd why people say Colbrelli sucked the wheels. He attacked at 80+ kilometers from the finish. He worked with Mvdp on the flat sections. Mvdp did most of the work on the cobbles but being in front on the cobbles isn't such a disadvantage. And no rider complained that he wasn't working, he didn't compromise any break by not working, I didn't see any rider waving him through and him not taking a turn. If the big favourite who rode everyone off his wheel was in a group with you with 70 kilometer to go and multiple 5 stars sectors ahead, you wouldn't try to keep your energy as much as possible.
It's a bike race, not a charity ride. If other guys are willing to tow you to the line, you'd be a fool to not let them work for you.
Moscon deserves all the bad fortune coming his way, and then some.
@@LF-hj8kk Thank you, finally someone who actually watched the race...
Clearly you haven't seen all the race. But let's assume you are right, then next roubaix will be a time attack race so we will be all happy and the strongest will win. Like Remco in the european and world championship, why mvdp after reaching moscon pull that hard? Haven't you seen that he was pushing with his shoulder? He also didn't gain time during the chase to moscon and obviously colbrelli will never close the gap to moscon because he is an italian team mate. Mvdp was finished at 20km to the end, maybe before. He was pulling that hard only to maintain a podium and, mainly, not to give van Aert a chance to win
I liked stage 20 of the Vuelta a bit more
I feel so bad for Pedersen. Right up in the mix of things and gets his wheel chopped out of pure stupidity from another rider
F for Moscon
Rare occasion that the comments aren't "F Moscon!"
1) MVDP didn't drop Lampart, he had his second puncture on the MVDP's wheel
2) Lampart and Sep Vanmarck add 3 bike/wheel changes do to mecanical issues...
3) i think Lampart and Moscon where the 2 strongest today But the first one had bad luck and the second one had a terribly bad mecanical ! Who the fuck puts more pressure in the second bike of Moscon !!!!?????
I think Moscon can be very angry against the mécanicien, this guy should be fired !
These long races just don't seem to suit MVDP
It's not the length, it just a little tweaking of tactics that' needed. He should've insisted other to pull through while catching the front group.