MAKING YOUR TDV6 DISCOVERY 3/4 MORE RELIABLE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- SOME COMMON FAULTS THAT ARE PRESENT IN BOTH THE DISCOVERY 3 AND 4 2.7LTR AND 3LTR V6 DIESEL ENGINE'S, THIS ADVICE IS JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME COSTLY COMMON FAILURE POINTS THAT ARE CHEAP TO ADDRESS BEFORE THEY FAIL I HOPE IT HELPS
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Great Video mete. As a new Discovery 3 owner. I have checked a lot of things. I know my oil pump got changed but will now check that it is the reinforced one. Will also clean the sensors and double check my crossover pipe which was also changed by last owner. I have a very slight coolant leak. I did see a video about the coolant release valve which I am yet to check. Thank you so much for what you do. It helps so much to have people like yourself making videos to help the rest of us who are still learning. I am in love with my Discovery. God Bless
Thanks for your comment Jamie
They are definetly a love hate relationship be when there working nothing compares to them
Stay safe during the festive season and have a good new years 🍻
Hi mate, new sub here. I have a 3.0lt D4 and just came across your channel, liked what I’ve seen. I was on a trip 2 weeks ago (800km) from home and that coolant crossover let go I just removed the coolant reservoir cap and topped up my coolant when the low coolant light came on for the trip home, I used 9lts of coolant. I’ve owned my D4 for 9months and it’s been an interesting learning curve. Thanks to channels like yours and the AULRO forum the answers are usually easy to find. 👍🇦🇺
Thanks for the tips Ryan, I purchased a D4 with the 3lt a year ago, motor was rebuilt by Automotive Skills and seized up three months later. They rebuilt it again and now pissing oil leaks from the top LHS and RMS, having nothing but dramas. I'm only an amateur mechanic, but love the vehicle enough to just put up with the garbage. These tips help.
Same here sent to Automotive Skills Sydney 10 months Ago for Major Work was told it was right to pick up .. first start hurd a knocking noise for a couple seconds engine sounded like crap took for test drive engine felt tight and under load took it back to Hank and said something is not right he told me it's fine and its under warranty ... 1800km's Later Died on the side of the road with the Crank Broken.
@@brentonthompson8379 Hank is a lying thief. His Mechanic in Melbourne is a genius however.
Thanks for your video. I have a Territory diesel, and I am learning as much as I can about the potential issues. I knew nothing about the coolant crossover, but I immediately bought a spare after watching your video, and I havent even got to issue 3 yet!
Hey mate, I’m struggling to find the part. Do you know the part number? Cheers
@@anels9 Sorry for the late reply. It would be better of you searched for "Land Rover TDV6 coolant crossover", and found one at the best price. I got one for around AUS$50. Some can be five times more, but would probably be exactly the same quality. They are almost all made from a plastic material, but aluminium ones are avaialble at a much greater cost.
Regarding changing engine oil and filter, it is so easy to get under a Discovery 3 or a Territory that there is no excuse to drain and change the oil yourself. The filter housing needs a 32 mm socket, and remove the filter housing and the filter carefully, but it is not a difficult job. The most important thing is to replace the O ring around the filter housing exactly the same as the old one. Check this over and over, otherwise you will get a leak. As for the oil itself, I do agree with you. I use a 5W-40 ACEA 3. As for the carbon inside the intake manifold, I squirted in degreaser through the same air pressure sensor hole you highlighted - with the engine running, squirting for a fraction of a second for many times, and without the engine running, about five times each time squirt for about three seconds and then restart each time. Watch the puffs of smoke out of the exhaust. I recommend doing this every month, and the engine runs better.
Thanks brother such good advice man. Just brought a D3 with no servive records so I will definately be doing these items
Cheers Barnsey
Only thing I forgot to put into the video is the main boost hose likes to split so probly worth doing also
Goodrich with the new rig
Many thanks, great advice . Much appreciated from the UK
Great update Ryan, good to hear from you. More jobs on my list for my replacement engine change 🤣👍
🤣how is the change going havnt seen any updates from you in a while 🍻
@@OUTBACKDiscovery like you life has been getting in the way 🤣however, I spent the weekend clearing all the crap out of my garage to free up the space I need also been getting the D2 ready for its MOT (wash and polish and fill the screen wash given that I rebuilt it last year, so probably fail on a bulb or headlight alignment 🤣) also mounted the D3 engine in my new stand and started stripping that down so I can replace all the consumable parts, belts, tensioners, alternator, cross over pipe, oil pump turbo etc. and now a few more items on my list after watching your update Should get the old one out in a few weeks hopefully but I'll let you know 👍
Great info.m8 also relevant for my Range rover Sport !
Great suggestions and practical help.
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My Advice use Good Quality Diesel Fuel ideally with a Fuel Additive to raise the cetane number and improve lubrication to pump & injectors. Change fuel filters early don't go to what the workshop manual says .........ideally every 25 - 30 k. Check the throttle flap - its made from plastic which gums up or swells and sticks ........causing fault codes and drop in performance. Clean it out and file a bit off its outer edge to prevent sticking.
Good advice
I removed the throttle flap on mine was in a bad so was like bugger it
And totally agree with the fuel filter I do mine every 6 months rather then kms and its feels so much smoother after being replaced
Very handy information and sound advice!
My new oil pump fomoco from british4wd leaked after i replaced it, 1st was the crank seal, buy the rubber generic "toyota" type not the genuine type, look for pics you will see the difference, 2nd the pump leaked from the hex plug where you check pump pressure i belive. This caused me a head ache and shoulf have come from factory sealed. (Leaked past threads once warm and pissed oil out quite heavy) check that before fitting the new pump guys. Peace
You need the proper tools (or improvise similar) and follow the proper procedure to install the genuine seal which is a PTPE seal. Has to be installed completely dry and left 4 hours before starting. It is a very important process that ensures no leak. A generic seal will definitey give you trouble.
@@richardwilliams8667 I had my local engineering shop machine a tool for me I haven't got a lathe like Vera and Christian 🤣
@@simon-mouse8739 its getting the seal safely onto the shaft that is super important with guide tool. Victor Reinz provide a guide tool with theirs.
@@richardwilliams8667 yes I have one of their seals but I only bought it for the plastic sleeve as I am fitting a LR seal 👍
Great advice buddy
Great video Ryan. I’ve got a 2016 tezza diesel and wow the map sensor was so gummed up.
Can you recommend anything else parts wise apart from the coolant cross over piece and latest spec oil pump?
Sorry only just seen this comment now
The imjector fuel return line gets brittle and can eventually snap leaking diesel onto your exhaust. I'm pretty confident this is the main cause of all the discos you see burning down on the side of the freeway on Facebook
Great vid Ryan cheers mate
Cheers Tim hope the boat projects going well
Great advice Ryan. When I bought my Discovery 3 TDV6 4 years ago this December my coolant level light came on so topped up about 500ml. Sure enough about 3 weeks later it came on again and more coolant was missing.
So I changed the coolant crossover and it solved the issue immediately.
You could actually see where it was leaking from. They have a seem where 2 halves of the crossover are joined and that seem breaks down over time. Really poor design I reckon.
It bugs me why people don't love and cherish their Discovery 3's and don't just replace parts when they're worn or like you stress, incorporate preventative maintenance? I have since gone on to practically rebuild the vehicle due to parts looking tired over the last 4 years and now have a very nice reliable Discovery 3, or at least as reliable as you can make it 😂
Hope you're all settled in the new home now. Love watching your new uploads and admire your strength and determination when dealing with your Discovery 3.
All the best for Christmas mate, take it easy and enjoy yourselves 😊👍
Yeah man I've bumped into a few people on the roads that are topping up there coolant and don't no why and then I look in at that peice and go yep stop driving your car and get the part sent to you before it cost you an engine
I've gotten mine to a reliable level now hence the lack of landrover videos haha got a few things coming up again though 😅
Hope you and the family have a good and safe Christmas make stay safe
@OUTBACK Discovery I'll look forward to that mate. Take care of yourselves 👍
There’s a nice V8 for sale in WA mate 😂. Congrats on the 3k.
🤣 don't tempt me
MAP sensor= Manifold Absolute Pressure
The supercharged 3l v6 in the D4 also has plastic cooling cross-over pipes that fail. There's aluminium replacement pipes available from the USA eg via Amazon. The revised plastic LR/Ford pipes aren't much better. The rear plastic heater manifold can also fail as can the original water pump. If you buy an SC replace the two plastic cross over pipes with Al and the water pump/heater manifold immediately. Otherwise the SC V6 is a great engine. Plastic pipes...why do it???
Honestly everytime I see a new vehicle with plastic manifolds and pipe work it makes me want to throw up haha 😄
many thanks for this video, I'm on the way for MOT and will have to do all the jobs. Is there a pdf list with part recommendations?
I cleaned my sensors with break cleaner a couple of weeks ago, seems to be fine, what issue can the break cleaner cause, will it damage the sensors?
Great video
Hey A S yeah basically break cleaner breaks down plastic over time will be fine as a once off and will get away with ita few times but definitely worth atleast using contact cleaner as it's designed for electrical connections and components and dissolves quicker
@@OUTBACKDiscovery awesome, thanks for the heads up, do you know a easier way to check the type oil pump by chance, trying to get my phone down there to record it but cant quite make it, do you know any tricks without pulling things apart.
@@AS-yc3wp unfortunately only way I would do it is by removing the timing cover to inspect it
Bit of a prick
Have to remove the fan and a intake bracket and section where the air temperature sensor in which should hopefully give you enough room to remove all the timing cover bolts and peel it open enough to have a look inside
@@OUTBACKDiscovery cool, thanks for letting me know, that might be a next week job 😁
Good day Ryan. Do you perhaps know what the part number etc is for the new style oil pump, I live in South Africa and I would like to see if I can buy the new oil pumps here? Many thanks.. Ray
Hey Rax I dint unfortunately I normally just call up and ask for the uprated pump or if buying online it will generally stipulate it has the extra support added
Hey Ryan, any tips for the new Ford Ranger 3.0L V6 engine? I understand it's the same engine as the Land Rover. Is there any differences/upgrades that you know of? Cheers Gaz
Hey Gaz I think alot of the things are sorted now, forged crank ect for the ranger
Still has the coolant crossover issue though so cha ge that every 5 years
@@OUTBACKDiscovery That's awesome glad theyve fixed the crankshaft! Will look into an ally crossover. Thanks again.
Hi could you please let me know who in Australia (I'm in Qld) supplies the reinforced oil pumps? Cheers appreciate your vids
Hey Chris if you buy it from ford it will be the later model oil pump otherwise I used advanced factors in the UK who stipulated it was the reinforce model
Thanks mate👍
hello where did you get the metal coolant crossover flange from I can't find them anywhere?
triumphroverspares.com.au/product/water-outlet/
Hey dude just dropped the link for you above 🍻
Great video man thanks for that. I only just bought an ‘05 model that needed a bit of work done. I’m definitely going to take your advice on these issues.
The engine on mine has done 240k, when I got it I did all fluids, noticed that the diffs hadn’t been done in a long time, and I’m assuming the engine oil was the same.
I did notice a little bit of shiny stuff in the filter, and it has me worried the engine is on the way out. Just wondering what your thoughts are on this? I was planning to keep my oil changes to every 5000kms. Just seeing if you have advice on whether I should cut my losses or whether it’s capable of being maintained?
Also, do you have a recommendation on the best place to purchase parts in Australia?
Hey T W
What colour was your metal in the engine oil ? Is its a real fine gold material I'd say it would more then likely be crankshaft bearings
It's hard without seeing how much there was in your change as to the advice to give if its a smaller amount of glitter and no large contaminants you will probly be able to run the engine for a fair while just with regular oil changes
Probly worth checking your oil pressure and end float if your worried about engine health due to the age of the engine but I wouldn't jump to any conclusions if it's only a small amount
I use bearmach and advanced factors for my parts
If you need parts the same day I run rovacraft as they are basically the only place that has a decent landrover parts stock in perth
@@OUTBACKDiscovery there were some silver chips, nothing gold that I could see.
I’m probably going to find a decent LR mechanic here in Brisbane to do a thorough inspection to let me know what I’ve got.
I appreciate the advice, and the recommendations for parts.
@@bloodynoobtubename yeah I'd get it checked out when I rebuild mine the thrust bearings on the crank were a silver colour could possibly be them maybe send me a photo next oil change of what you find through instagram or email them to Ryan.outbackdiscovery@outlook.com
I'd be checking crankshaft end float
From memory spec is 0.22mm to 0.32mm that will give you an indicator as to how your crank bearings are holding up
If it is out of spec * over 0.32mm then you no your up for a bearing roll on your bottom end
Thanks for the heads up, IM also in S/W WA and have just developed an int leak on the injectors on my 2016 SZ MKII Territory. Do u know of anyone that has done a 3L swap into one of these?
Hey Cory I haven't heard of a 3ltr in a territory before
There's a fair bit involved in the conversion on a disco getting everything to talk to each other again but unsure about the territory
If your wanting more power I'd suggest just getting a basic touring tune done for 1500 its a night and day difference
@@OUTBACKDiscovery cheers, any recommendation's? Im dealing with what i believe is a fuel leak around the injectors. cant justify what they are charging for the return lines though
@@CoryRobson chances are it is a return line and if it is I'd change it asap as you can literally set fire to your car if it gets to bad 😅
I would pull any covers off clean around the leak and start the engine then watch to try identify its location if it is that return line in my video myself and another youtube have both almost lost our cars because of it 🤣
From memory it was $360 for the part and took me around 3hours to change would be easier on your territory
What have you been quoted to replace it
@@OUTBACKDiscovery Over $900 for the part alone :P was looking to se if the Discovery was the same as it is listed at $326. I haven't been able to locate the leak. have cleaned a few times but is intermittent.
@@CoryRobson Jesus it's the same part as land rover maybe send some photos through on my jnstagram the next time you have a look and I will clarify and try get you the part number you need
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Simply DON'T by a bottomless money pit of a vehicle!
🤣 just bought a toyota again I broke last month haha
@@OUTBACKDiscovery Bet it doesn't break as many times as a land rover 😉🤣
@nigelbase1196 was supposed to say because my disco broke last month haha which made me snap and go buy a toyota haha
I think I love you, but not in a broke back mountain kinda way
🤣 haha thanks will I think 🤣🍻
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None of that stops the crank breaking , dreadful engines 😅😂
No need to watch the entire video. The obvious answer, is in the question itself. Just. Don't. Drive. It
Great Videos as always Rayan 🫡
Mate I clean both MAF & MAP sensors and nothing changes to my Disco 3 I don’t say you wrong or something NA mate just I’m trying explain my situation on what’s happening with my disco ! I checked both works great just it might be something else ? I have the HIKE IT X9 installed on my Disco3 since I bought it do you reckon it might be it the reason it’s eating to much Bro 🤦♂️😂😅!
Have great week start with cheers Matt 👋🫡
It's a hard one every disco has different fuel usage numbers
Have you got the 2.7ltr tdv6 aswell?
I haven't heard of the hike it before is it a power chip or a throttle controller
Both would effect fuel economy the throttle controller when adjusted to high makes your throttle way more aggressive meaning you would use more fuel when driving locally
Most people don't notice a difference in down low torque unless the map sensor is super clogged up, so you doing it all the time is a good thing but yeah problem won't notice to much difference