Darkest Dungeon Lore: The Cult of the Darkest Dungeon (Spoilers)

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  • A video going over some possible lore involving the Cultist, the Darkest Dungeon, and the ending.
    This is not an official statement on the lore of the game.
    My thoughts, opinions, and theories are my own, and subject to change if new information is presented.
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    Myuu - Round that corner
    Myuu - Living in the dark
    Myuu - Evil Returns
    Myuu - Down the Rabbit hole
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  • @Pixelcat607
    @Pixelcat607 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hey i just realized at 3:36 the ancestor is just butt naked while he is receiving his vision

    • @darksoulsgreat6205
      @darksoulsgreat6205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What, it's just a little GOOD GRIEF HE'S NAKED!

  • @davidgeorge1943
    @davidgeorge1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    I never noticed the Iron Crown motif on the bosses until you mentioned it. The Prophet in his stockade and the knives in his back; the Necromancer's Collar (actually an obvious one, guess I never paid much attention to it); the wheels on the Brigands' cannon; the Hag's headdress made of an antlered skull; the Swine Lord literally wearing an iron crown; the Flesh's spine; the Siren's fin; the Drowned Crew's anchor; the Shambler...; the Collector also going the literal way; the Shrieker's quills; Vvulf has it drawn on his shield.

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      It's very subtle in alot of cases, something alot of people overlook but that's kinda of the point. In hindsight, it makes sense why the cultist are allowed to work alongside the other factions. They all serve the Heart. The Pelagics have totems that references to the Dungeon's Door, the Hag experimented on herself to gain insight into the Heart. And those that don't serve, suffer from it IE Prophet and Siren.
      Shambler has it on it's quills/tendrils above it's eyes.

    • @davidgeorge1943
      @davidgeorge1943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist I just said ellipses for the Shambler because wth is its anatomy

    • @NotALiberalSoSkipTheScript
      @NotALiberalSoSkipTheScript ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist Same here. And I love this game and have been searching the lore! Thanks so much👍

    • @kuro456
      @kuro456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist Another thing is that they also appear in most, if not all of the characters' comic backstories. Might be possible that the heart is responsible to their fates? The musketeer did see something in her backstory

    • @oldy4080
      @oldy4080 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honestly, I noticed it only on the Vvulf's shield. Since it us also present at the family crest, I assumed it was part of our heraldical symbol. And Vvulf weared it as a signed that he served the Ancestor. But this observation is so much deeper! Nice job.

  • @f145hr3831jr
    @f145hr3831jr ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Sometimes I wonder if the Ancestor's "brain-blasting realization" is an intentional pun refering to the way he sealed his pact with the Thing.

    • @auraguard0212
      @auraguard0212 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are we sure that it's not just the Heart disguised as him?

    • @DronesOverTheMoon
      @DronesOverTheMoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@auraguard0212Its never actually confirmed

    • @ashtar3876
      @ashtar3876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found it pretty funny too

  • @brenokv
    @brenokv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    To me the fact that the cultists had the stress symbol in their helmets was kinda of a hint

  • @eren__morwen5947
    @eren__morwen5947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "Spare the others, I am ready"
    Man... Leper's line at the heart of darkness hits me like a truck. Best character

  • @maledwarfwarrior
    @maledwarfwarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I personally suspect that the same barriers placed around the farmstead have been erected around the entire estate. Why leave things to chance, especially when the ancestor only needs to win once.
    It's not so fun when the antagonist is the one save-scumming now is it?

  • @wiej007
    @wiej007 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After that those line have more meaning.
    "The old road will take you to hell... But in that gaping abyss... We will find our redempcion"

  • @DotZipfile
    @DotZipfile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    One thing I feel should be noticed is the shape of the priest's true body. That is to say, it's similarity to the shambler... hm. Perhaps the shuffling horror is not a mutated shambler, but rather a juvenile one. Perhaps the shambler we know of is an elder who's abbarant flesh has finally settled and fully developed, and now wanders the estate.

    • @antonioscendrategattico2302
      @antonioscendrategattico2302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm doubtful. The Heart seems to want to subsume all organic life within itself. Spawning creatures from it to grow different from it is pretty distant from what it would want to do.

  • @jamessimpson3337
    @jamessimpson3337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    I never realized that the five marks on the Iron Crown represents the player and their party of heroes. Great video as always!

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thank you! That's just how I saw it as a meta representation, in DD2 we learn more about the origins of the symbol through out history and cultures.

    • @joshuawadsworth6417
      @joshuawadsworth6417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They can also represent the 5 sins (or bosses) the player confesses in the 2nd game.

    • @josh___something
      @josh___something ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@joshuawadsworth6417 I think that was made the other way around, considering it was made for a sequel.
      They made 5 confession bosses for the 5 points.

  • @ZayZenBlaze
    @ZayZenBlaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I remember first going through the dungeon and every time, I was shaking and quiet the whole time. It’s definitely the most overwhelming, Eldritch area in the game. And you are not the same being as you were before once you clear the missions.

    • @Ironsuaba
      @Ironsuaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The atmosphere and the brutal difficulty of the Darkest Dungeon stages synergize very well to make the place terrifying. But when you get used to it... it's beautiful...

  • @cerebralcloud92
    @cerebralcloud92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    A thought about your input on the ending:
    I was always under the impression that the opposite was true: You have to “kill” the Heart in order to suppress it from awakening, whereas giving in and feeding it/allowing it to gestate (Week/Death limit on Stygian/Bloodmoon) brings about the end of the world. At least, that’s the conclusion that I leave with, but in the end, the result is the same. The Heir must fail for the Protege to succeed.

    • @ryujin8754
      @ryujin8754 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, we killed the Heart but it's not gone. It will return, the Thing will awaken once more, be it by a will of another or no and there will be someone who tries to stop it. The Ancestor is not special, The Heir is not special. It will happen again, perhaps in some distant past it happened as well.
      It's not a fight we can win. It's a fight against something far bigger than us, something we can delay but can not stop. It's a fight for continued survial of humanity and all thing living in this world. Should we fail, even once, it's over. Life as we know it will come to an end. The Thing, like a newborn, will hatch from the egg that is our world to enter the infinite vastness of space. Perhaps that's how things really are. The way it should have been. Yet we forge ahead. To fight against inevitable. Against Fate.

    • @Ixmore
      @Ixmore ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well if you beat the game in hard difficulties, you can then play a free play mode of there.

  • @jacobfreeman5444
    @jacobfreeman5444 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    It is not a loss of sanity but a true revelation. You become aware of things as they really are. But such a sudden enlightenment will stress the receiver out as they are not prepared for it. But either way the receiver becomes more advanced in thought. Maybe to the point their turn of mind no longer is recognisable to those they once called peers. Sanity, after all, is just the measure of how you stack up to the norms of the group you belong to. Your ability to recognize and act on what the social norms are.

    • @NIHIL_EGO
      @NIHIL_EGO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno, I wouldn't really trust the Heart. Doesn't seems to be any way to truly know if what it says is true or not.

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    My favorite thing on this fight was the guy who beat the game with just the two starters never losing anyone nor bringing anyone into the game

    • @Markm8
      @Markm8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Its like a big F U to the heart

    • @theenderdestruction2362
      @theenderdestruction2362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Markm8 mankinds indomitable spirit when some eldrich thing gets pissy as its beating said eldritch things: *SHUT THE F÷**#K** UP*

    • @spy.mp4773
      @spy.mp4773 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My favorite is the guy who one shot the heart with a Jester high as a kite in space cocaine

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the subtle storytelling of two moves "Rend for the old gods" and "Rend for the new god". The cultists were drawn in by a return to the faith that existed before the religion of the flame, that is, before Christianity. What they got was no true return to the old ways, but a worship of the heart of the world. Unless the faith of the flame replaced worship of the heart? I don't think so, for when the cultists are shown more of the truth of what they worship, they now rend, not for the old gods, but for a new one, one their ancestors did not know.

  • @masterzoroark6664
    @masterzoroark6664 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I also formed a theory- the Heart does this every now and then, a cycle where humanity and all life on Earth prooves it's worth to be it's own.
    An endless test of strength, intelegence and self reliance- lest your maker, your mother and father, reclaim you for failing to proove your individuality.
    Therfore I see the cultists who are joyous in being devouered by the Being as more or less failures in it's eyes- it's reclaiming the people who wilingly want to go back to what is essentially primordial soup of being, failing to be themselves

    • @theenderdestruction2362
      @theenderdestruction2362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In time, it will soon leave, for if mankind in time begins to slaughter it and all that follows, then will it leave? If it does, will it watch? Does it even love mankind or is it possibly like the light, which from the few context clues may love mankind but in a sick and twisted way, like it truly wants mankind to itself and only itself (wtf am i going on about? I feel like the ancestors)

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theenderdestruction2362 (Ain't wel all?)
      well, there always might be that the Heart is also the Light- just interpreted by other minds

    • @theenderdestruction2362
      @theenderdestruction2362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@masterzoroark6664 i would rather find it interesting if most of the gods and goddesses were all just wanting man to themselves besides like idk the darkness wanting mankind to be free from every other gods corrupting influence or whatever.. just my thoughts on the matter

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theenderdestruction2362 Would work too

    • @theenderdestruction2362
      @theenderdestruction2362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@masterzoroark6664 ... i just fucking did the basic plot of elden ring, dark souls and bloodborne as well kinda what the fuck

  • @valois6846
    @valois6846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    There he is, The Herald Of The End
    The Local Man, who ruined everything
    Also The Hand pun, I didn't expect that at all.

    • @SamGarcia
      @SamGarcia ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Ancestor is a Florida man confirmed

  • @zeez145
    @zeez145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Dude, thank you so much for your work explaining the lore of this amazing game. I hope this video is a "see you soon" and not a "farewell". Hope to see you again in Darkest Dungeon 2 = )

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The story doesn't end here...

    • @kuyagab4444
      @kuyagab4444 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DD2's full release is only months away. We dont have to wait long.

  • @sandwichlegends2495
    @sandwichlegends2495 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly this is the only TH-cam video I have ever gone back to watch a second time

  • @DMJ94UC
    @DMJ94UC ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Little fun fact: The hand of glory is actually described in "real world" books on black magic. From what Ive read the original was said to paralyze anyone whos light it shines on. There was a little story in there about two thieves trying to use it to rob a house and being arrested as it obviously didnt work.

  • @mantidream8179
    @mantidream8179 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like how, in the moment that the earth shatters, you can see a vague resemblance of the iron crown.

  • @redbommer1502
    @redbommer1502 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i love how this game is still getting attention years later, thanks for carrying the Flame!

  • @colvamoon6962
    @colvamoon6962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Loved how you gave a connection linking the two games together. My only question...would this make the heir and the university student the same person?

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      I'm still debating how the Ancestor, the Heir, the Academic, and the Protégé all fit together. I think we'll learn that in chapters 4&5 of DD2

    • @Dafuqinator7
      @Dafuqinator7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist Considering in one of his speeches about the Sluice, the Academic says the Swine were first reported near a coastal hamlet, I don't think he knows too much about it aside from rumors. Like you said, we'll probably find out in the final parts of DD2.

    • @NotBamOrBing
      @NotBamOrBing ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist beating the Seething Sigh has the Academic say that the arrival of the letter changed everything, and the letter shown has the Ancestor's wax seal, so I'm pretty sure you're the Heir in DD2

    • @gamerpingo3916
      @gamerpingo3916 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist There is also an academics study with a painting of the manor where he says that the protégé was talking about crazy "half imagined" stuff while painting it.

    • @NotBamOrBing
      @NotBamOrBing ปีที่แล้ว +3

      POST CANCELLED IT WAS A DIFFERENT LETTER

  • @masterzoroark6664
    @masterzoroark6664 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I find stories with a hook of "Your species is just a small piece of a bigger organism" intriguing.
    The idea of your entire species being all one in a way they themselves cannot see.
    This sort of stories make you ask a question- is sentience a fluke, a lie people believe in because of their lack of perspective, or is sentience intended and connection to what made you is merely a remnant, a memory of where you came from and a reminder of equality of everyone

    • @liberalismisahatecrime4385
      @liberalismisahatecrime4385 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To an outside perspective, humanity may appear on earth as an ant colony. We think individually we're acting in our own best interests but in the truth of it we toil to add to the whole. Even our drive for sex is us being manipulated by nature.

  • @frankcastle766
    @frankcastle766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for holding the line with us.

  • @ezergilechimekazikura6855
    @ezergilechimekazikura6855 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I guess might be somewhat true is that the sequel takes failing of bloodmoon as a canon ending for the first game. Not as in Heir denied the call, or stuck endlessly in a time loop, but that they undertook the crusade of stopping the Heart from gestating, and failed, and actually died trying, along with those souls they took with them into the Heart of Darkness. The game states specifically, that you cannot retreat from the final quest itself, not even from enterance of it, which might indicate, that the road back is naught for those who ventured into the void. The state of the world in DD2, if it is the same world as in DD1, implies, that Heir failed and never returned. Gestating of the Heart was completed, and the world was brought to ruin that it is in the second game. This is also supported by the notion of the Ancestor on new recruits at the very start of the game or upgrading stage coach: "word is traveling. Ambition stirring the distant cities. We can use this". Thus, the crusade of Heir was a point of notion for many, and many souls, both brave and wicked, were united under the banner of someone who had the strengh and virtue to face the end, and try to oppose it. But when Heir met their doom, and Heart took over the Mannor and shortly after - the Estate, which was for sure to be abandoned by those who were lucky enough not to get slaughtered in it's wake, all hope had been abandoned, save for a few stragglers, who gathered on a crossroads to be called once more by another stalwart soul, ready, as foolish as it might be, to challenge the impending doom that took away world as they knew it, and save what had left of it, or themselves be consumed just like the first one to lead them in the war that cannot be won, but must be fought.

    • @angelovassalo7655
      @angelovassalo7655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No the heir survives, and was sucessful, it says so on DD2

    • @maslinichh
      @maslinichh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@angelovassalo7655 no, DD 2 doesn't say anything about what happened to the Heir. And the Ancestor is mentioned only a couple of times.
      Of course, I would still talk about DD 2's lore but those will be spoilers.

  • @fgk44
    @fgk44 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think DD2 start with what has happened after defeating the Heart as shown in the open cutscene where like the ancestor said, defeating the heart won't change anything as the world still went into chaos despite the efforts. In the opening scene, the heir is frustrated as he/she doesn't know what can be done to save the world anymore until the man showed up with the "hope", which motivates the heir to find the origin and dealt with it like how he/she dealt with the heart.
    Side-notes:
    Many people suggesting that the burning scene is the hamlet but I doubt that's the case, since we literally start from the hamlet with the stagecoach in the cutscene (the finger pointing corpses proving we start at the hamlet, please search other theories related to this), which shown us that the hamlet is probably one of the last places haven't gone mad at the time of DD2. (Thanks to our effort in DD1)
    To support this, the Man-At-Arms, Plague Doctor, Highwayman, and Graverobber are our first starting crew, which basically breaks the loop theory, as the heir only has a crusader and a highwayman whenever the loop starts. (Why people believes loop theory in the first place is beyond me)
    Second and more importantly, the zombie literally said "you're bold once, be bold once more". That guy has seen some shit, I don't think he would use the word "bold" and give the "hope" to anyone (Defying/Killing the god is both Bold and worthy of the last hope)
    English not my native, sorry for bad English.

  • @annyshkilionok2680
    @annyshkilionok2680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit, finally after all this time I realise the connection between DD1 and 2. That's impressive

  • @phylsorkyrem3615
    @phylsorkyrem3615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The cultist enemies are probably my favorite faction; their design is so well done. Some of my favorite mods for the game bring in character classes that let you play with a modified version of the brawler and acolyte, and I really wish we could get, say, a an ex-cultist or something as a DD2 character

    • @AlexTTzer0
      @AlexTTzer0 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We get Occultist I suppose....

  • @leemorrison3994
    @leemorrison3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You're still the go-to channel for DD lore, well done

  • @justag5pilot769
    @justag5pilot769 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally belive killing the heart does stop the apocalypse but the ancestor is really salty about it

  • @Dragnarok1
    @Dragnarok1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like how you asked "so why invite us here?" Only, in a way, for the ancestor to answer your question.

  • @santino7470
    @santino7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Dungeon’s areas are definitely the most unnerving thing in this whole game. The enemies didn’t creep me out, it was just the atmosphere.
    Every other place, you grow so used to seeing them, forests, caves. None of that compares to the manor and how fleshy and grotesque it is.

  • @CatVisionTM
    @CatVisionTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bittersweet to see this amazing series come to close. Thank you so much for all the amazing insight into a game I have come to love so much.

  • @ujvarig74
    @ujvarig74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Broo, instant subscribe, perfect, mind boggling video, I don't know what to say

  • @dofima1729
    @dofima1729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing video! Ive been hyping myself up for over a year to write a dnd campaign based on darkest dungeon with its own story line and everything and your lore videos are gonna be a huge help.

  • @thewholesomecultist6702
    @thewholesomecultist6702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Also now that I’ve finished tis sad to see a end to this series but I think I speak for everyone when I say your return will be great ^^

  • @thedarkassasin8316
    @thedarkassasin8316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is most appreciated that you cover all of this and that you reveal the meaning of the oron crown and how its effects have spread. And the purpose and actions of the cultists and the ancestor. It would seem that much is left untold.We in the darkness know that even in the brightest light darkness will always be there. Till the stars aline once again I bid thee a good day.

  • @brenkrasmer
    @brenkrasmer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've watched a lot of your videos. I don't know if I caught them all... But some day I'll binge all this all over again.
    But this video, something clicked. After the end, a snatch of song came to me. "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose/Nothing ain't worth nothing, but it's free." And, I couldn't shake that sentiment for some reason.
    This game pushes hopelessness. Having no supplies, no escape, no way out. Dwindling your heroes out of anything. But look at the heroes. A crusader with broken sword. A Highwayman, someone who could be a brigand, but wants to attach himself to something more. Artificer, who seeks knowledge and history. Break it down, each hero is here to claim something. Honor, wealth, knowledge.
    At stress, they come to realize that their extrinsic value isn't worth it. And that kind of realization comes in one of two ways. Either you have nothing left to live for, or you've got nothing left to lose. If you've nothing to live for, you become resentful. Abusive, apathetic, paranoid...
    But if you're free of losing anything of value... You can re evaluate and see that your intrinsic value is worth enough, and gain a second wind. Rallying those around you to take their burdens because you just shucked yours.
    Seeing this story through that lens? I... Things come into focus, but not quite. The Ancestor looked like he valued money, but it was only until he gained audience with the heart. Once the connection was immutable? He had no use for gold and jewel.
    In the epilogue, we the player spend so much time fighting and putting the heart to sword. But it's futile. Returned to the old road before we even set foot on manor grounds...
    Purpose stripped. Why try to stop it when it just means a chance to fail, and even then, it will only come back to a chance to fail again? Abandon it. Let it fail, it is... Inevitable. Either accept it.... Or use the time to find other means, and embrace its shadow to glean its form and motions.

  • @thelonecaliforniacowboytlc9709
    @thelonecaliforniacowboytlc9709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This was beautifully done and I loved every minute of it well done.

  • @sup1602
    @sup1602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    One of the uplifing things about lovecraftian works is despite how hopeless everything is; one thing is constant; the stubbonness of humanity to spit in the face of the inevitable. To tell the other worldly horrors no we will not submit now matter how insignificant we are.

    • @momom6197
      @momom6197 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Optimistic nihilism is fine, but it's nothing like the stories actually written by Lovecraft... 😅
      They're full of "woe is me" and "all hope is lost, and I'm writing this down to get rid of it, but I know it won't work" and "might as well commit suicide".

    • @sup1602
      @sup1602 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ik the dunwich horror was one story of some professors Arkham, dealing with the BS on whats going on in that town and stop it. Well they ended up not well at the end of the day but they manged to better humanity. Now I am reminded the professors at Arkham university are the true heroes of the Lovecraft mythos.

  • @ericolivecarmona7871
    @ericolivecarmona7871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i always assumed the "iron crown" means ilumination in some twisted way

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      In some ways, I guess it does lol

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In it's own way. For what is becoming Virtuous than a radiant halo, a counterpoint to the Iron Crown?

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This man.... This man understands.

    • @brenkrasmer
      @brenkrasmer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's revelation. Dark revelation holds one down, weighing heavy on the head that wears it. But, in moments of virtue, your light shines back, and like a hooded lantern, use the crown's reflective surface to focus your will on the world before you.

  • @chiefgroovy2256
    @chiefgroovy2256 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's such a great work

  • @tiago.suares
    @tiago.suares ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos are a GREAT help to me, I'm in planning stage of an modulated d&d DD campaign with players that never played DD, your way of doing all this is not only of help but a fantastic inspiration!

  • @SheyOfTheFae
    @SheyOfTheFae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I could not smash that like button hard enough! Your presentation, as well as your theories, are astounding. Somehow the most brain blasting for me was the realization that the slashes on the Iron Crown are us and the four heroes. That is until that connection you made between the ending of Darkest Dungeon and the sequel. That one felt like hope, the very last of it, after all the darkness. Beautifully done as always, Memorialist. I'll see you. On the Road Trip of the Damned.

  • @dawido.z7173
    @dawido.z7173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautiful piece of work. I simply loved it.

  • @GabrielYuriTheNinja
    @GabrielYuriTheNinja ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seven minutes into the video and i'm already stopping to comment about how well done it is.
    Keep up the good work. This is very, very good.

  • @misterjooj9851
    @misterjooj9851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I will be waiting for the next story whatever it be but thank you so much for your effort and hope you are doing well

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. I will be back for DD2 but life and other projects have to get done first.

  • @117neither
    @117neither ปีที่แล้ว +5

    darkest dungeon was inspired by dark souls and bloodborne, now that elden ring has been released i think it could potentially clear up why the 'holy' attribute seems so extraterrestrial in these games, as well as how the ancestor's story arc started with meeting the countess

  • @yourchoicelp9599
    @yourchoicelp9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good work as always. I'm sad that it's probably gonna be quite a while until we see you again, but I am looking forward to it all the more. I am also very curious to explore the parts of DD2 that aren't ready yet. Can't wait.

  • @Shinigamix_
    @Shinigamix_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is such a banger video that i've come back a year later to rewatch it.

  • @YellowPhosphorusDice
    @YellowPhosphorusDice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Amazingly explained and I really like the interpretation of what you believe would happen in d2.

  • @paolobucci2761
    @paolobucci2761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ok, in your series you have answered a lot, but a question gnaws at the back of my mind, who built the darkest dungeon? expect for the last 2 stages that are the void and the belly of the thing, the first 2 stages are a strange and horrific subterrean world and is corrupted version, someone must built it, and can't be the cultist because they come after the ancestor opens the gate to that world, so, who done it? you will do a video about it?
    P.S. can't be civilization from where the prophet comes because he wants to prevent the thing's awakening, and probably the darkest dungeon's builders worshipped the thing.

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've thought about that too. And this will be a spoiler for DD2
      We learn how the Iron Crown has existed throughout history as a symbol of power in various cultures. We see flashes of it on warriors throughout history even one who looked very prehistoric. My guess is that the ancient cultures, the ones who were spawned from the Thing, are the ones who constructed it around the creature. (I actually wonder if it's the Cultist we see in DD2)
      Initially as a form of worship. But somewhere along the line, something happened that sealed the door to the creature. That is something I hope we learn about in DD2 and something I would love to make a video on. Was it the deities we know as the Light and the Flame who sealed it? Did the Countess play a role? Did the Prophet? I can speculate but it remains unclear.

    • @joshuawadsworth6417
      @joshuawadsworth6417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiskatonicMemorialist The existence of the countess could mean that even before the ancestor found out about the heart. It’s corruption was already spreading which also could’ve been hinted at in some of the hero’s backstories. Only then the ancestor an already corrupted individual who got just a drop of blood corrupting him just enough to somehow link him to the heart.
      Could it be also possible that the countess was deliberately sent to the court by the Heart to cause the chaos that it planned?
      Also what is the heart of darkness based off of?

  • @jordancarma
    @jordancarma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always get excited seeing these, thank ya very much

  • @Dafuqinator7
    @Dafuqinator7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An excellent video, like all the others. I really like that you went out of your way to use more dynamic graphics instead of just scrolling across default room backgrounds. It gets me to actually watch instead of just listening in the background.
    I do find it a bit sad that you haven't mentioned the sightings of the Heart and cultists in the hero backstories, like the Flesh Cult in the Houndmaster's comic or the Eye that causes the Musketeer to miss.

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought about mentioning those but I held off since the video was already going long, and I couldn't have found a way to work them into the script.
      Also I don't believe there is anything that says that the cultist we see in the HM's comic is the same group as the one in the manor or that they share a connection. They could, but they could also be a different cult looking to sacrifice for something else and the Iron Crown was added for flavor, since all the comics feature one.
      Also thank you for the kind words.

  • @genokugel
    @genokugel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've just found out about your channel and boy am I glad I did. I've been downing your videos like liquor, plus they're really informative about very tiny details I never bothered to investigate on my own! Great work!

  • @firetarrasque4667
    @firetarrasque4667 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God, this video felt intense just *watching* it. Darkest Dungeon is such a brilliant game.
    Do you think you'll eventually do some work on Darkest Dungeon II's lore? The game isn't finished, but the enemy factions are fascinating.

    • @MiskatonicMemorialist
      @MiskatonicMemorialist  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will at some point but when we get to the 1.0 launch, and the Steam release.

  • @Gredoxx
    @Gredoxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved your first vid didn't expect a second banger awesome narration.

  • @Kaspar_Ementaller
    @Kaspar_Ementaller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great work. I'l be waiting for your return

  • @cypher4783
    @cypher4783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Into the Darkness! Bear the Light!

  • @dragutciprian7358
    @dragutciprian7358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Petition to put a Miskatonic Memoralist reference in DD2.

  • @nathanielthomson6600
    @nathanielthomson6600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean to be fair it wouldn't be cosmic horror if winning was an option.
    The protagonists in these stories never defeat the eldritch entity, they merely survive long enough for its gaze to drift away from them and for them to fade from its sphere of awareness. In the end survival or death were the only real options.

  • @Esowolf
    @Esowolf ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay first, AWESOME VIDEO! Gosh i was enthralled by it! There's so much work in it!
    The things you talk about are pretty interesting, with the Heart either way winning, the cultists, different interpretations. The one moment that i think i prefer is at the end: "To escape the apocalypse, we must start it." The setting of apocalypse in the sequel got me riled up for real! Anyway thanks a lot for this video, and i hope you keep making content as good as this on our favorite video games!

  • @superfox5258
    @superfox5258 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel along with the videos are soooo underrated. I really liked all the videos so far especially this one and I can say it's obvious there is a lot of good work and mind that you've put on those videos and I really hope for the best on future for the channel and ofcourse you!!!! I can't wait for future content on DD2!!!!!!

  • @suffhunter23
    @suffhunter23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your lore videos, still waiting for steam release of DD2

  • @Ironsuaba
    @Ironsuaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flesh Hounds are very cute. I want one as a pet.

  • @daiymohermitaurenjoyer9160
    @daiymohermitaurenjoyer9160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You would expect a eldritch priest to have more arcane powers, but the priests seem to only use there new physical form to attack which I guess the finger if I am correct does mark, so maybe slightly magical

  • @ParadoX505
    @ParadoX505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for a dd2 wilbur video, id love to hear what you think lead to the pig flesh dudes moving out to the world

  • @militaryarchive4840
    @militaryarchive4840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a great narrative voice. Please make more lore videos on different games!

  • @44Wisely
    @44Wisely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    See you soon, you did amazing work as always!

  • @rh3280
    @rh3280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOD DAMN, wonderful explanation and tie in to the second game, what does Redhook need adds for with you around

  • @thewholesomecultist6702
    @thewholesomecultist6702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sweet a new video and I fought it the day of ^^ great work man

  • @jansimek4210
    @jansimek4210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for this video not polish man. The ending is beatiful and the best damn ending i could have possibly imagined. For now I will wait here for your return with the finalisation of DD2, and until then I bid you farewell. Unless you plan to stream DD2 anytime soon that is.

  • @marisolazteca3128
    @marisolazteca3128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this game and it does make senses that after figting the heart at least once, you leave to find answers because i thing in the lore the cusader is the only on who dies he sacrifices to the heart making the first loop happend no matter what, and maybe killing the brain the lungs etc. won't kill the heart but it will make it go to sleep.

  • @Cherb123456
    @Cherb123456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed the watch to a great extend, thank you very much! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @NoOne-rf4nq
    @NoOne-rf4nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We are chained here forever, you and i; at the cosmic edge that is the TH-cam comment section....

  • @michi_941
    @michi_941 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Heart: *Giving the choice, on wich Hero you want to sacrifice*
    Me: "Why am I having a deja vu all of a sudden?-"
    Pocketcat from Fear And Hunger: "So old sport, wich limb would you have me remove? Not to worry, my touch is gentle yet firm~"

  • @kinderoovobarbaroelegante2854
    @kinderoovobarbaroelegante2854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    32:14
    AAAAAAAAAHH
    Omg thats transition

  • @walker110701
    @walker110701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go you absolute paragon! May we meet again on the road to our redemption, someday...

  • @JW-kz3jx
    @JW-kz3jx ปีที่แล้ว

    Your narrative skills are amazing and you have a gifted voice!
    I'm a fan of the franchiseof the darkest dungeon since it was out but I could begin to play it not so long ago, you really catch the game ambience and its essence!
    Great job and I will continue to watch your content with big attention =D

  • @ZESTdabest
    @ZESTdabest ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome essay, I can`t imagine the amount of work you put in it, keep it up!

  • @deltastudio9726
    @deltastudio9726 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope to see you do the “Heroines” of the Muscarine mod’s.
    But for now…Until we meet again.
    In the darkest dungeon.

  • @JohnWarhammer
    @JohnWarhammer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found the end...
    Empowering, actually, if you can believe it.
    What we are is less important than what we do. We shouldn't have been able to stop it-- not even slow it. But we did. We staved off what the Ancestor in his hubris decries as inevitable.
    It gave us life, and in the ultimate gesture of a self divided from the so-called 'whole', we struck down our creator.
    We decided for ourselves what we'd do with what time we had. The Ancestor has made mistakes. Maybe he's wrong. Maybe our victory is lasting. It doesn't matter. The gesture we made... It was worth all the pain.
    Why did we build the Red Hook?
    Because we could.
    That means something. More, even, than you know.

  • @wanderdragon1075
    @wanderdragon1075 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Houndmaster line makes me so sad

  • @Spellweaver5
    @Spellweaver5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And suddenly, you're lost in the abyss forever.
    You didn't ask for this. You didn't choose this. Yet there you are...

  • @hondimon69
    @hondimon69 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got yourself a new subscriber, i really love your dd lore video, I hope you will make more of it, especialy for dd2

  • @bosskaiju4834
    @bosskaiju4834 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just a bit sad that you didn't made a video about the Hamlet, but it's you who are in charge of this channel.

  • @isaacofthales4303
    @isaacofthales4303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your ending reminds me of Lefacy of Kain

  • @Noguchisan3
    @Noguchisan3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to watch you do a lore focused playthrough of the game

  • @lucasyong538
    @lucasyong538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos of DD. Do more DD2 PLZ!!!!!

  • @vesselofcalamity8107
    @vesselofcalamity8107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, well done! This was a great video!

  • @motokohammond4737
    @motokohammond4737 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I really want the next part of this now. It was such a good video, loved every moment of it :D But then I found out this was 5 months ago and there is no new content Noooooooo >...

  • @corvusio1958
    @corvusio1958 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I personally prefer to believe that the creature in the darkest dungeon is lying, there is just too many holes in it's story (Not implying that your work is wrong at all, I have been replaying the videos quite a lot, that's wonderful work !).
    No matter how you look at it, stress, the mind, insanity, these are it's main weapons. It's easier to manipulate people into hurting themselves or each others than actually handling the situation yourself. The iron crown and it's counter part (the light / flame crown you get when your character gains virtue) are omnipresent, almost always located around the head.
    It manipulates the heir into feeding it and accelerating it's return, perhaps out of fear ? Even in it"'s dying (?) moment it keeps telling the party / the heir that it was all useless, that it would always come back (insert purple man joke I guess)
    The ancestor was a puppet (a surprisingly efficient one ._.' how much chaos can a single man create ?) perhaps it was trying to turn the heir into a new one, hence the "revelation" at the end ?
    When you look at it from the physical perspective, the "heroes" can decimate hundreds of monsters without dying with good preparations and equipment, but with time stress will always manage to break through and probably get them and others killed.

  • @theblackbaron4119
    @theblackbaron4119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this game, even though it's sadistic and cruel to the player. This os probably the cruelst RNG I've had in games.

  • @kelp-ist3469
    @kelp-ist3469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its the little things that make this go from a masochist wet dream to beautiful masochist wet dream

  • @cletcher
    @cletcher ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the video. Really well done. Please check the meaning of supplicate: it means to beg a god for something.

  • @ViNncentSmith
    @ViNncentSmith ปีที่แล้ว

    hey miskatonic try making a fear and hunger 1&2 lore series

  • @ZebraOnYourNose
    @ZebraOnYourNose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like an appropriate name for this cult would be "The Cult of the World"

  • @ghostghost9359
    @ghostghost9359 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe when we defeated it, we won but to keep it contained, we made a infinite loop of fighting it to prevent the heart from escaping the hamlet.

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Local Man Ruins Everything.

  • @SuperMegaBober
    @SuperMegaBober 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:25 this is a Hellboy reference