Carrion - Lore Theory and Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- Tentacles and Gore. No, this isn't one of your weird Japanese cartoons.
We're diving into the story and trying to piece it together like a slightly damp, second hand jigsaw puzzle.
There's some review elements in there too..somewhere.
Credits: "At the Mountains of Madness" by H.P Lovecraft
Additional Shoggoth Info found on Wikipedia
Carrion Launch Trailer - • Carrion - Official Ani...
00:00 Intro
00:48 The Game
13:08 Evidence & Theories
28:35 Gameplay
31:59 Art & Visuals
33:04 Sound & Music
34:25 The Rest - เกม
3:23 "that's right! *A* flashback" You mean fleshback? No no, carrion.
You know what? *stands up slowly* I'll find the exit
Goated response
dude i got the game on sale and when playing the game the look on my face when i found out you could make humans control mechs was ecstatic!
It was definitely an "oh hell yeah!" moment for me too lol
I got genuine whiplash seeing that subscriber count. You are doing FANTASTIC!
Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement 👍
I like the idea of a powerful shapeshifter that has to convince their host to allow themselves to be assimilated. It could easily kill you, but I wants to absorb you, and you have to sympathetic to it for that to happen. It would make a great mind bending horror story.
That's the great and frustrating thing about having such an ambiguous story. It really could be anything, and I love you're idea.
Mind if I steal this idea 👀
@@Snuuy143 go for it
Honestly my biggest complaint with the game was that there isn't more of it. I really liked it, and I kinda wish it had more replay value, but that isn't the fault of the developers, but just an overall problem with this kind of game. If they worked to give it more replayability, it'd lose a lot of what made it what it is, so the only real solution is that I wish the game was longer because it's just that fun.
Agreed 100% I had a blast with this game. I'll still replay it after some time, but I do wish there was more. We need more Carrion.
Hey, so about the cocoons, if you are at the green level of byomass, instead of leaving one behind, you can transform into one, implying that the can do this to hybernate.
And here I thought I saw everything in this game. That's a good catch!
I detect a southern draw
Yup 🤠
after playing through this game several times, here's what i've come up with over the years for lore:
Relith is a hybrid organization similar to the SCP foundation, dipping its toes into many different subjects to most efficiently complete its goals. Considering there is neither uranium nor tropical rainforest in seattle, Relith must span either the americas or several parallel universes, and i prefer the former for this interpretation.
as far as the game's plot is concerned, it starts with a place in the middle of the desert. this place, perhaps due to celestial alignment or simple remoteness, was perfect for the practice of occult sacrifices and rituals to summon or create malign extraplanar entities for various uses, and was used as such. eventually, Relith became aware of this place and either booted out its current inhabitants or reinhabited its ruins, gussying up the place to Relith's modern architectural and electronic tastes in the process. naturally, since this place was perfect for the practice of occult sacrifices and rituals to summon or create malign extraplanar entities for various uses, Relith got right to doing just that with its state-of-the-art technology and research divisions.
in their experiments to bring about entities beyond the stars, they found out at least two things: colonial/gregarious creatures are best for quickening normally shapeless things into our shaped universe, and it is very logistically difficult to manage both the esoteric resources required for their r&d to be happy 𝘢𝘯𝘥 the constant influx of forgettable people for the sacrificial use of their sapient minds. both of these newfound facts led to the exact same ending; a catastrophic occurrence resulting in a complete collapse of control over dangerous organisms and the proceeding total abandonment of the facility we now know as the Derelict.
fast forward some couple decades and, through a secretive combined effort with the local powers, the Derelict's surroundings are now finally considered safe enough to enter the Derelict proper and search for any recoverable records. an initial canary team is sent in with minimal gear to perform some basic surveying and determine if further searches should be invested in. in the end, the canaries did their actual job of sacrificially flushing out any surviving specimens perfectly, and provided Relith with both fresh eldritch horrors and a perfectly safe facility to repair and continue their dark experiments.
you, of course, were the fresh eldritch horrors in question, which would break loose and tear Relith's hubristic ass a new one.
anyways uhhhhh yeah subbed because your epic
Oh man this is really good! I had the thought they were similar to the SCP foundation as well, but didn't think about it as deeply as this. Good job, and thank you!
Man, I gotta finish this game. Between it and Mo Astray, I love being a little guy who gets into some silly antics (murder).
It's satisfying pixelated carnage for sure. Never played MO Astray before, I'll have to check it out.
I honestly think that the compound with the flashback sequence was a holding cell/outpost near/for the carrion. It breached, and probably scattered some other samples around it too. I believe Relith science is wholly resposible for the entire mess, tampering with forces beyond their control.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the truth, Relith is shady enough for it
My guess is that Derelict is an ancient facility. Relith found it and repurposed it for its own research, but something happened. They sent people to check out (the science guy) the aftermath. They probably sent soldiers to take back control, and the science squad was checking if anything was left for salvaging.
I liked the game a lot. One thing I would have loved for them to add would be a sandbox mode. Random selection of powers, random map. Go crazy.
Because the game's puzzle elements only really work well the first time.
As for theories, the game appears to imply by ways of how the research areas are constructed, that the creation of the creature is tied to radation, likely nuclear because of the creature's innate resistance to the nuclear cores (it is not resistant to basic things like bullets without some form of powerup). This would suggest the crystals are either radiation shielding or or generating devices. The reason the scientists are not actually hurt by the creature might be its weakened state. We never see "our" biomass come to life, suggesting it is too weak to do that on its own (would also be a negative evolutionary decision). However, if the humans coming might have reactivated some form of radiation after they restored power, the biomass gets to be charged again and come to life, but possibly be weaker than the original creature and forced to be small and hide in the human's head. The attacks left it weak enough to be captured and put in the box. Where the humans once again begin to experiment, likely once again with trace amounts of radiation, allowing the creature to awaken and become strong enough to break out. The other samples are from the "original" creature which apparently tried to escape (blood in the chopper) and so they took these samples and stored them in several places to make sure the creature could not re-form. Each bit of biomass absorbed gives extra powers, because you slowly "become" one with the original creature.
Sandbox mode could be fun for sure. At least to extend the game a bit more. I definitely think you're on to something with the radiation and the fact the "samples" were separated.
One thing that I can't get off my mind is the biohazard signs and quarantined apartments at the end of the game. Either the facility uses a fake quarantine area to keep people away from the entrance or the creature we play as isn't the only one out there.
That's my thoughts too, considering there was one of those "sample containers" already broken - it could have been another creature that escaped before we did.
I love your voice, your jokes are 10/10 and you have good editing! Keep up the great work!
Appreciate the kind words! Got another vid on the way soon
great video, i've been hyperfixating on carrion for a while now and seeing someone else's input and thoughts on the lore was really fascinating! keep up the good work :)
Thank you! Glad to have provided 👍
No it very much isn't a bad channel name! I love it! Also great video, I really liked Cariion, but fin it not often enough in my timeline for some reason.
Lol thank you! 🐐 I'm surprised I don't see more pop up in my timeline either.
Video essays about videogames??? Hell yeah, im following
Welcome to the legion 🐐
I think the midnight goat is a great name for a channel. You might say that it is the goat.
We're all GOATS here🐐
24:00 looking at the official spotify playlist for the game, the final track, The end as we know it, It's likely the creature is out to end the world as we know it.
That makes a lot of sense. Especially since Cris Velasco said something about how he wanted the music to be from the monsters viewpoint.
I think I can explain the helicopter "capture" scene with fewer assumptions: we don't know how long assimilating the scientist took, but if we assume Relith is a standard Evil Corporation then they probably sent a military team to kill the scientists. The blood on the helicopter is from the pilot being executed by the soldiers, and the drone identifying your face as one of their targets is why the soldiers opened fire.
But there's also a deeper weirdness: the helicopter you arrived in is a fake: it has the exact same call number (859) as the soldier's helicopter. At first I thought this was just asset re-use, but no: the devs took the time to flip the number properly for the other side of the helicopter, and they already made a new sprite for the blood effects. Intentionally, the game is drawing attention to the fact that these scientists arrived in a helicopter disguised as a Relith helicopter, but also that the situation was complicated enough that no soldier shot you on sight until a drone verified you were a target. I honestly think it was pure luck that the person the Carrion was impersonating happened to be on a hit list, because otherwise it would have escaped.
As for the "Antediluvian" moss and modern-looking derelict with a modern stun-gun, I suspect that there's another faction we never saw. One that originally found and reinforced the Cyclopean ruins, but then vanished or was absorbed by Relith. If this was our world (I'm still not convinced it's meant to be interpreted as such) I'd wave my hands and say "Soviet-something-something Research Base"
Ah, that's something I hadn't considered. Good catch! The idea that there was and/or is another faction other than Relith opens up even more possibilities on what's really going on
Wait why does the material scanner show human memories when scanning a carnivorous creature
I can only assume that it's because the creature assimilated the researcher, thus made him part of it, so it has some of his memories. It's kind of a "pick your interpretation" kind of thing since there's so little information given.
Fine work! I'd been considering writing a story about this setting and your video was quite informative.
That's great! This setting is pretty juicy for some really interesting stories. I don't know if you're into posting your stories online, but it could def be an interesting read. No pressure of course.
@@TheMidnightGoat-pj1nr We took the freight elevator down to the BSL-4. That metal coffin was so damn loud we had to use our helmet comms. I briefed the men with all the intel I had, which was whatever Command had scraped together from the last four hours of security feeds. It was apparent, even to a grunt like me, that the situation was escalating. And rapidly. We hadn’t been the first purge squad dispatched into the facility.
Or the fifth.
“What is it, though,” my second, Callahan asked.
“Security breach,” I said. “Like always.”
“Bioweapons? More of those biting critters? If so, glad we got these new cut-proof suits.”
“No,” I said. “Something bigger. Something worse. We’re full-auto here. This is a purge op, not a rescue. You see anything in there move, human or otherwise, you put it down. Immediately. We crystal?”
Callahan and the others nodded.
The elevator shrieked to a halt, and the three-foot-thick security doors of the BSL-4 opened. We stepped in slowly, weapons up. Main power was out, and red emergency lighting bathed the reception chamber.
The floor was sticky.
I ordered Callahan to take point with the flamer, and he hesitated, something I’d never seen in over a dozen ops. I repeated the order, put some anger in it, hoping to force down the thing building in all of us.
Fear.
18:28 That creature on the D&D campaign art looks very familiar.
Right? I thought the same.
Loved this vid! Good catchup on the lore. Keep up the vids, you defs gotta future on youtube if you keep it going!
Thank you for the input, I appreciate it!
There should be a movie about this but in the human point of view
iirc I believe the developers said they were loosely inspired by the movie The Thing. If you haven't seen it yet, definitely give it a watch.
@@TheMidnightGoat-pj1nrthanks ill give it a watch
I belive that between the second and third flashback, the loss of communications with the science team and the heli pilot witch can be seen in the first flashback sending a distress call due to the monster reaching the surface had the corp send a response team to the area, that being the second heli and the soldiers, now i belive that they managed to save the pilot due to two reasons, first the heli windowns are not broken and second the blood is outside the heli. Also the soldiers were probably waiting for reinforcements before entering into the facility to find the missing research team when you left, thus implying it only took a couple minutes between all of the cutscenes.
Also the reason why the latter levels have more or only soldiers could be because at that point the soldiers have arrived and have evacuated the scientists in there
Very good point! I think you're probably right on this one.
The daralect was probably actually one of the research facilitys but they nuked it in a attempt to stop the thing but being a literal nukeclear shelter theres no garentee it worked or the nuclear reactor in it probably went super crictial even though theres still some power left and they probably waited for radation to clear out or enough for no hazmat suits
Solid theory. It is mainly underground just like the research facility, I'm just wondering what those giant remains are of, and why those crystal/gem things are there. Wish we had just a bit more info
@@TheMidnightGoat-pj1nr gems could be some sort of shield tech actually shields aren't even really a shield they seem more like basically a lazer wall so that's probably what the gems were a bigger lazer wall and also pretty much really only way itd damage the player when hit by it and egg is probably one of the creatures and it had to wait for power or something to be cut so it decided stay like it was till someone touched it also if there's something posibly dangerous in the daralect left why only send researchers in so there's also a posbility of this being right there was never a research team sent in in the first place or well atleast not a human one could explain the bloody helicopter cause the thing knew what would happen once the security team realized the researchers were never "alive" in the first place and the fossils atleast unrecognized one is maybe the thing played as doubt it has a bone structure with its movements and abilitys but it's possible also reason for atleast a "alive" one chance that the creature used uh that one ability to turn into effectively flying snakes to hide inside the research team and any scans they looked human enough to pass and only being "whole" is when scanners detect something isn't human ill add that the bones might've been where this blob came from and the daralect was the first research facility where they more or less remade whatever the bones were but it kinda breached and probably had a hell of alot more abilitys then seen in game and all the DNA containers is its missing DNA and maybe some more advanced DNA it didn't have when it went back to the helicopters when it got finally discovered for probably regaining mass it left behind
Alright if you were trying to read ill let it happen now most of the edits were ideas that came to mind and went ahead and added them so wouldn't forget later
@@arandomsystemglitch2398 It's a possibility that the gems could have been some kind of defense system, I agree. It is possible that the "lead" researcher, the one we control, could have been a little more than human when he went in but I'm gonna say the other two were human because they didn't survive. As far as the bones, could literally be anything, so your explanation is as valid as any.
@@TheMidnightGoat-pj1nr yeah based on them having no wounds I'd assume they just were knocked out or something also since the scanning drone is gone dunno where it went might've missed it I'd assume that something exploded it and that's what got the other 2
When i got it, i saw Mark's video on it and pirated it to see if i enjoyed it. Long story short i now have the purchaced version of the game
It's a gem for sure.
i honestly think the carrion thint is just some alien discoveredby the facility, maybe even chest bursted from the 'Cyclopean entity' like a space jockey in ALIEN
as for Carrion itself, I wish it had more 'horror' elements, there was one part I think in Bunker where (dont know if it is intentional or not) civilians RUN into water during a combat zone
this is wonderful, i wanted more moments of seeing what humans had to go through, like an in depth fear mechanic than just-
*AAAAAAAAAHHH*
or shooting, i might be psychotic but it was intended to be a reverse horror game.
If you're psychotic, then I am too lol. I would have loved to see more of the humans reactions too, seeing genuine fear and desperate to escape by any means.
@@TheMidnightGoat-pj1nr i mean the hiding was pretty cool and all but it wouldve been cooler to see things like humans slaying eachother like in bunker where civs literally (again, maybe its a pathfinding thing though i doubt it) slay eachother, imagine you see one go into a room and just stay quiet, or even picking up guns that dead soldiers couldve dropped
carrion had a lot of potential and it is still a really good game but it also couldve used a lot more things to make it an actual reverse *horror* game
I know I am a bit late, but when seeing this video i think you have maybe like subs in the quintuple digits, Honestly earned a subscription.
Thank you! I do appreciate it.
This game would be dramatically improved with a map in the pause menu.
Other than that it's freakin' perfect.
I feel much the same. Especially when you're trying to 100% all the areas.
Gary!
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This game needs a sequel ngl
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Man, I'd love to hear your theories and takes on Death's Gambit and its lore, if you had played it
I haven't played it yet, but it is on my radar. I will definitely look into it and give it a go. Thanks for the recommend!
Finally some carrion and im happy for you because you great in this you can do alien isolation
Thanks so much! I'll definitely check it out and see what I can do
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Perhaps alien creature has some kind of goal-oriented personal evolution and hopes to join most powerful species on planet they are in and as humans were able to subdue it means they are apex species. Creature makes itself human and final upgrade finishes it's metamorphosis - it has become fully human.
That's an interesting idea, and a possibility. We don't truly know what happened after the end, even with the comic - because the comic could just be a standalone that has nothing to do with the game.
@@TheMidnightGoat-pj1nr It might be same species as was in The Thing, except this has not yet learned to imitate other organisms.
love a good meat monster. meat monsters are my fav. ahhhhhh, meat monsters.
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Digging that Appalachian accent
Is that what it sounds like? Not teasing you, genuine question lol. I've moved around quite a bit so my accent is probably a bit of a mix.🤠
Flash🍖back.......😠🔫
I dont know if anyone else commented on it, after scrolling through for a bit, but please dont use ai generated images/art in future videos. supporting them is indirectly hurting artists livelihoods.
Other than that stuff, the video is pretty great, ill look forward to more (if theres no ai)
Honestly I just use them because I don't have the funds to pay an artist, but since you're comment was polite and I do understand where you're coming from - I will reassess the use of them in future videos. Thank you for being kind!
great commentary, maybe lacks a bit of emotion? but the potential is there! i'd love to see your work in the future!
Thank you for the feed back! I do hope to get better at it in future videos
Hi, thx for a entertaining vid. You should watch the movie The Thing.
You're welcome! It's funny because I just responded to a comment mentioning that movie, I've seen it and love it, and now I want to re-watch it.
I oike video
Glad you do!
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I greatly dislike the use of AI
Fair enough