Mady is like Kate in some ways, I agree. However, I feel like a lot of her actions towards really just symbolize all the stress Kate puts on those kids. When Mady started complaining about Kate being a control freak when they were decorating the party room, it reminded me an awful lot of how Jon used to complain about Kate when she would act this way. Even though the twins have stated they have distance themselves from Jon and don’t want to have anything to do with him, I don’t know if I 100% believe that. I feel like Kate has fed them these horrible lies about their father so that they will stay on her side. But deep down, we can say that Mady & Cara think Kate acts so ridiculous more than half the time because they know what she’s like. Hope they can reunite with Jon in peace again someday and have a better relationship with him when they get older. They were a lot closer to him when they were little, it’s so sad. 😢
Isn't she though? I couldn't stand her when she was 5. And she gets worse the older she gets. I hope that both of the girls choose to get therapy to learn how to interact with each other better otherwise they will eventually live on opposite sides of the country. Which is okay as long as it's what they want and not because they can't stand each other. My twins are like that. They live 1700 miles apart. Ny son doesn't like if but his sister left the entire family
I guess he's in a better place, but maybe he wouldn't have issues if his dad would have never abandoned them in the first place.You have no idea what it's like to have a child with special needs .You don't know if he was hitting or a danger to him self.john got custody of Collin after he was getting treatment for two years.after Kate had fix the problem.kuddos to kate for being a single mom.
nephwills21 Abandoned them?? His harpy of an ex wife boxed them out of his life and then bad mouthed him. It's a classic case of parental alienation. TLC helped her too because Jon didn't want the kids on TV anymore.
Exactly! I could tell it was just BS when she rambled on saying that. She just wanted her “moment of glory” to look good in front of the camera. All you have to do is read that letter Collin wrote to his father to know how awful his mother has treated him. 😔
So I can’t feel hard on her and her kids I mean they can’t speak how he feels because they might not know how he feels you make that statement like you can’t be hard on them yes it could be hard on them and him not being there but they have to carry-on because I like you do have a carry-on because you have other kids to think about and then on top of that you know that’s not fair for them to not sit there and have a party I’m not trying to have a sad day because he’s not there yes that’s probably really hard on him I mean it is probably worse on him he was in there being alone and probably feeling like an outcast but it could be hard on the mom and kids too so don’t make that statement like I can’t be hard on them
Guys come in we don’t know how she feels she loves her children of course she does!! Dam she has a million of them a single mom!! Give her a break she does better than I’m doing ! Lol don’t judge
@@roxanneiamawake4311 She's only a ''single Mom'' because she set children against their father, alienated him and didn't give him legal custody rights just because he didn't want to continue filming.
@@Yt76383 Apparently he didn't need that kind or that degree of help according to John and Collin. Also, Kate didn't just abandon him, she refused to tell his FATHER where her son is and John had to search for Collin for 3 years...
The way her daughters react to immediately saying “don’t yell at me” means their mother has messed them up. That’s why they freak out if their mom doesn’t tell them exactly what to do. The mother is probably super critical and puts what they do or say down. And probably made a lot of choices for them instead of teaching them to make their own.
"She didn't ask for our help, she demanded our help." Sad. I helped my mother whether she asked for it or not. Bratty and spoiled teenagers. "Why are you yelling at me?" I never heard her yell.
Scottishroad35 Scots , Exactly! Like it's gonna kill them to help their mom set up their siblings party, or to do anything their mom tells them, or asks them to do. Their behavior is utterly despicable. Such disrespectful brats.
Poop Poo , Excuse you! I do not need to get over myself, or anything! Nobody was talking about past generations. Duh! bad behavior can be found since the beginning of time. No need to get triggered, but then again you said you've been a brat before....so I guess that's how you talk to everyone? 🤓
Collin wasn’t doing what Kate expected so she labelled him damaged and sent him away. I am glad that Jon fought for Collin and he’s with his dad now. Hannah too.
I can’t remember but isn’t Collin one with ADHD or ADD because if he does have that then yes that is difficult if you really know any kids that I have it or whatever yes as hard as some hairs on how to handle that and how to sit there and take care of a kid that has it
@@tammiepage6489 oh please i have adhd, and almost every one of my friends has adhd or add, or some mental illness/disability and we are actually the most well behaved in our family. something we bond about. please don’t generalize. you sometimes can’t tell if someone has it. don’t speak on things you don’t really know about, im tired of seeing this stigma around it.
I call bullshit, whatever special program she got him into, she can take him out of for one day for his birthday. That kid is going to feel abandoned and unloved.
Kate is the worst parent ever she scape goated that poor child. And abandoned him. I hope one day he writes a best seller about his evil mother, makes a ton of money and has a good life with a loving family of his own. His childhood is ruined.
My suspicion as to Collin as that he may be on the Autism spectrum. A house with as much stimulation as this house has with so many kids may very well have been just too much for him. Chances are it was not caught early as he may be more on the high functioning part of the spectrum . As a parent of a child ( now 18 ) who is severely autistic I hear from so many parents and Dr.'s that for higher functioning people on the spectrum it is even more difficult with more kids in the family. They just struggle to fit in and often feel as though they are not the same and struggle to find their place in the group. Behavior issues, self esteem and depression also often become more clear. I am not the biggest fan of Kate's but I do believe as a mother that when Dr.'s and specialist recommend this and that she could not give him the help that he needed any longer in the house I believe it. Love is a wonderful thing for your kids but it does not solve all the problems that kids can have. Medication, Dr's do what they think is best for the patient, sometimes this is a benefit and other times it is not. Not looking for a debate here.
@@jjshimek101 Kate was mean to him go watch the old video of her yelling at him for having fun on the bear. It's not his fault. He would say no. She expected all the kids to listen and follow in line. Kate is crazy!
@@hopebullard460 as mentioned I am not a huge fan of Kate. However, I also am not the parent of 8 kids six being the same age. Her yelling at the kids or to Collin just tells me she is overwhelmed. She stated that she could not meet the needs that Collin needed to address what his special need required. Sending him to a place that specialized in his special need to teach him the tools he will need to manage this sounds like she was following what specialist had recommended. Actually those were her words. Now on the flip side, if she had not followed what the Dr's and specialist had recommended would also have been heavily scrutinized. She was in a no win situation. If Collin had a illness let us say, Cancer and she just kept him home and did not do what he needed people would be in a uproar but because what it sounds like is a mental health issue ( wait....for it....IF it is a spectrum disorder it is medically placed in the category of mental health ) she is judged. Again, I am not a fan of Kate's, but I do believe she did what was recommended and I am sure as a mother it was heart breaking for her.
I find it INCREDIBLY weird that Collin wasn't even allowed to leave the "place" he's at, even for his birthday. And Kate doesn't even seem really that upset about it. Nor do the kids. Just seems off to me. I also find it saddening to see how the twins ended up the way they did. Everyone always calls them brats but, how did you expect they would ask for attention growing up with all the focus being on 6 toddlers?? I don't blame them one bit but it's clearly effected their development. Needing to scream and complain loud enough to get attention has become a part of their personality unfortunately
FallingSlowly87 they aren't showing there feeling for him leaving so that they aren't thinking about the fact that someone they love and live with is gone they want to be happy with each other (like that happens) and not think about the negativity (that does happen)
My mother and father were both so loving sometimes it doesn’t have to do with anything of an environment, but just our brain chemistry. My parents couldn’t let me out of the place I was for my birthday granted I wasn’t as young I was 17 but it’s still hard. Hard for everyone. It’s not an easy decision to let your kids go.
Heyitslivv98 No, she said Kate...she's done it on NUMEROUS occasions even as a child when the show was called Jon & Kate plus 8....Kate and Jon used to think it was cute and never corrected her. Now it's metastasized in a negative way.
Yeah she missed the message because she's like "I wasn't yelling". Like okay you weren't literally yelling, that's true. What they were REALLY saying is back the fuck off.
I need to break it to you but you can’t blame her because at the other day I’ll be the focus is always on the sixth of the children more than her and her sister so that must be hard for her growing up and she’s a teenager that’s what I fucking teach do it I don’t know what’s wrong with people when they do their Colorado because what you were never teenage before and I’m sorry I like a typical teenage girl because they do they get moody and everything else and most teenage girls yes they act like brats and it’s really sad that most people can’t fucking admit that
As a young adult I can call my biological mother by her name, I mean like its on her birth certificate its her name. Not everyone has a mom let alone a good one.
I can't imagine getting angry over something so dumb. I was a bratty kid who did things like maddie and honestly punishment never worked. It only made me worse. I realize that some people are easily put in their place but I can only imagine the hell I'd cause if my mom laid a finger on me for calling her by the name her mama gave her. LMAO
They act just like their mom. I didn’t see blatant disrespect though, just typical teen sarcasm. As my mom used to say they were “smelling themselves”.
i think maddie actually meant something else like the way she described "yelling" was her mom talking on a disappointed voice i think she just said yelling because there is no other word for it my sister does that all the time she keeps on saying things like she hates the way i do this no its not the right thing stop but she says it all on a calming voice i also sometimes say that my sister keeps on yelling at me even though she didnt even raise her voice
I know everyone craps on Kate, but she is actually pretty passive with the older girls, if anything it almost seems like they need MORE structure and are super spoiled. Maddy is a brat and she even called Kate "Kate"....hell no, that is so disrespectful. I know Kate is a controlling type A, but as the kids have gotten older I think she noticed that she can't "control" them as much without them retaliating so she just kind of throws her hands up and says "fine, do what you want".
She really isn’t if you follow her on insta she actually seems very nice. Reality shows like to give ppl different personalities. Yes she may act mean towards her sibling but like all sibling are mean to each others
"Forever single?" Darling, you sound like a high school mean girl, not an adult. I mean, calling children bratty or obnoxious is fine, but insinuating they will never in their life find love just because they aren't fully mature as kids.. Are you that dense? Lol so many teens are like this, if not worse! Only thing is they haven't had their entire lives broadcasted on international television for all to judge. I'm sure you were no angel youself and here you are with your little wedding profile pic...LOL. It is so pathetic and sad when a full grown adult says catty remarks about literal children. Seriously sad.
Mady and Cara are not bratty teens by the way. They feel controlled and they can’t do anything right. Every time they pick stuff out, mom is like “Oh that’s ugly” or “That’s unacceptable.” Watch the time when Mady and Cara had to get the same thing for each other in a Season 1 episode. Kate was annoyed with Mady because Mady picked out a Bratz doll and Kate called it “ugly.” They also get shut down when they have an opinion to say especially when they feel upset. At the decorations Mady had a great idea and Kate shut her down. It reminded me how Jon was treated.
Here's a list of things that would happen to me if I spoke to my mom like maddi and cara do: 1. Get spanked 2. Phone taken away 3. Probably grounded 4. No respect from my parents 5. Wouldn't be allowed to hang out with friends 6. All of my technology taken away
Juliet the dancer Me 1. Teeth knocked out 2. Searching for them on the floor 3. Holding jaw in place. 4. Begging mom not to call Dad 5. Dad comes home to yell at me 6. Grounded into adulthood 7. Solitary confinement 8. Siblings laughing at My disfigured face
+21 Crybabies plus, I'm never really rude to my parents, every now and than when I'm in a bad mood, I will have an attitude but still I don't get in trouble often. If I got in trouble more often, than the punishment would be worse
Bookworm _25 I mean she has 7 other kids. The kids are old enough to take care of the puppies but having a special needs child is different. We don’t know his circumstances either. Don’t judge too quickly.
@@TheTbabylati Still, how can a mom send their kid away and then stress about a party and puppies. Like get your priorities straight or dont make 8 kids
Kate might not share some really private shameful stuff. Collin might be the psychopath of the family and endanger the others, thus the separation. The chances are high because of the statistics alone.
It is very sad that Collin has just been sent away and has become an afterthought. How bad off is he that he cannot even come home on a pass to be at his own birthday party.
sndy I think she's just quiet. Her sister was always noisy loud and in everyone's business. And getting most of the attention, that she just got "use to" just being quiet and out of everyone's way.
Kaylia Marie Solares to an extent. Compared to Mady yeah, but all around? nah. whenever Mady eggs on about their mom to the camera Cara's quick af to agree and basically repeat it
As someone who also uses "yelling" as a catch-all for "(passive)aggressive/negative/annoyed/belittling commentary", I feel for those two girls. It's difficult to articulate the specific tone/energy of someone's responses to you, especially when you're a teen dealing with a parental figure/adult. It makes it even more of a struggle to communicate than usual, bc you say "stop yelling at me" and the adult responds with "I'm NOT yelling, my voice isn't even raised!" Instead of realising that the kid is trying to say "I need constructive input, not negative input/what you're saying is coming across as being told off" and adjusting their tone/approach to the problem
She literally told her daughter to decorate, the daughter picks a spot for a photo shoot then the mom says no not there I don’t like that there, THEN the daughter is like ok then tell me what you want me to do next and the mom is like um im giving her the options to do what she wants ?!?! Like girl I just watched 4 mins of you talking to your kids and I already want to run away from you. I used to think the older daughter had such a bad attitude but now I watch this back and think to my self that she probably just didn’t want to hear her moms shit anymore
She used her kids as a cash cow for so many years. And basically, divorced Jon because he didn't want to do the show anymore. Imagine what she is like off camera.
I agree. A child should never be sent away for any reason. Even parents of kids with profound disabilities manage to keep them at home with support from visiting specialists. She is making poor excuses, but Jon is also as much responsibme
It's funny because Kate (at least on tv) is explaining why she makes sure she doesn't yell, so she says it in a quiet voice, but for the kids they know their mom, and so to them since they know she has yelled, the voice/tone "to them" not any of us, she uses is probably equally emotionally upsetting and because they feel like this, they call it yelling (even though she isn't), I think they should talk about different ways of communicating so that they can be more aware of this, thought because they're kids, it would take awhile but still might help. I do think Kate is doing one heck of job raising this many children! :-)
Yesss I was thinking the same. Like I know when my mom is mad even when it's not super apparent to people around us. Maybe this comment section is full of people who lack awareness lol. Cause geez. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
...just decided to watch this (again), all I can say is WOW, Kate talking about Colin not being there for the Birthday party "... tough for them, tough for Mom..." I guess it never occurred to Kate how tough this day would be for Colin (being all alone)... all alone where SHE sent him (and she refuses to tell the rest of the family where that is). We don't hear much from/about Kate these days... GOOD, and I hope she now realizes what the vast majority think of her!
Ya know I don’t really blame Maddy or cara, if they had a loving calm mom, they would have grown up to be loving, calm, kind people. It’s so obvious from not only the show but their personalities that they did not have the right environment to flourish in. People aren’t just born assholes, they’re raised.
Many of these comments regarding Collin are incredibly insensitive. We do not know the full story about Collin, and it's more than likely it's more than just "anger issues". He could have some form of mental disorder or social development issues that are better treated by professionals. Its obvious that Kate very much loves all her children as she is constantly striving to give her children everything they need to do their bests. Though she has her moments, Kate loves all her kids and probably is withholding information about Collin's dissapearance for his safety and privacy.
This video must’ve been taken when Collin was “sent away”! It’s horrible for what Kate did to him! But I am glad that Jon was able to track him down and invite him to come live with him! Sorry for using him more than twice!
mis vlogs Because her mom is a control freak who micromanages everything to the point that she would have found some form of a flaw in Mady’s decorating, even if she did it Kate’s way. She’s not happy with the results unless she does it, but then complains she doesn’t get help. These poor kids can’t win.
I have seven kids, and I would feel like such a failure if mine acted as selfish, whiny, and unloving towards their siblings. I constantly feel like umm not a good enough mom, or that I'm messing up. Watching this makes me so thankful and proud of my kiddos. Since when does being a teenager mean you're a whiny selfish snot? I don't blame them though, they've had a narcissist raising them. And poor Collin. I've never seen him act unnaturally difficult, he's a great kid.
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Kate is really getting a dose of her own medicine with Maddie😂😂😂 she is JUST like her mother
And cara is just like jon, which infuriates her.
Good call there.
Ugh. Dont insult maddy that way! Shes WAY ABOVE her hideous mother
Mady is like Kate in some ways, I agree. However, I feel like a lot of her actions towards really just symbolize all the stress Kate puts on those kids. When Mady started complaining about Kate being a control freak when they were decorating the party room, it reminded me an awful lot of how Jon used to complain about Kate when she would act this way. Even though the twins have stated they have distance themselves from Jon and don’t want to have anything to do with him, I don’t know if I 100% believe that. I feel like Kate has fed them these horrible lies about their father so that they will stay on her side. But deep down, we can say that Mady & Cara think Kate acts so ridiculous more than half the time because they know what she’s like. Hope they can reunite with Jon in peace again someday and have a better relationship with him when they get older. They were a lot closer to him when they were little, it’s so sad. 😢
Isn't she though? I couldn't stand her when she was 5. And she gets worse the older she gets. I hope that both of the girls choose to get therapy to learn how to interact with each other better otherwise they will eventually live on opposite sides of the country. Which is okay as long as it's what they want and not because they can't stand each other. My twins are like that. They live 1700 miles apart. Ny son doesn't like if but his sister left the entire family
I’m glad Collin is under the custody of his father.
araci ferreira Collin is better off with his dad. Thank goodness the court agreed.
Same
I guess he's in a better place, but maybe he wouldn't have issues if his dad would have never abandoned them in the first place.You have no idea what it's like to have a child with special needs .You don't know if he was hitting or a danger to him self.john got custody of Collin after he was getting treatment for two years.after Kate had fix the problem.kuddos to kate for being a single mom.
araci ferreira Hannah too
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Abandoned them?? His harpy of an ex wife boxed them out of his life and then bad mouthed him. It's a classic case of parental alienation. TLC helped her too because Jon didn't want the kids on TV anymore.
She abandoned Collin. Didn’t even show up for his court date
She did the same to Hannah.
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She hated that poor boy. I remember the time she tormented him about tossing out his teddy bear cause it got some gum on it.
Referring to the party without Colin, she says it's hard on mom and kids....how about how awful it must be for Colin by himself with no family!?
Andy Stoner he’s with his dad and Hannah
Exactly! I could tell it was just BS when she rambled on saying that. She just wanted her “moment of glory” to look good in front of the camera. All you have to do is read that letter Collin wrote to his father to know how awful his mother has treated him. 😔
What’s wrong with him
@@itouchdeadpigeons kate put him in an institution and didnt tell anybody . Watch the dr.oz special with jon it explains everything
So I can’t feel hard on her and her kids I mean they can’t speak how he feels because they might not know how he feels you make that statement like you can’t be hard on them yes it could be hard on them and him not being there but they have to carry-on because I like you do have a carry-on because you have other kids to think about and then on top of that you know that’s not fair for them to not sit there and have a party I’m not trying to have a sad day because he’s not there yes that’s probably really hard on him I mean it is probably worse on him he was in there being alone and probably feeling like an outcast but it could be hard on the mom and kids too so don’t make that statement like I can’t be hard on them
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It's so sad because I loved this show when I was a child and now everyone seems sad and depressed
Addie Musrep yeah I CANT STAND MADDY anymore
For Real. Like what happened?? Why y'all so SAD NOW!!!🤔🤔🤔
ela criou as crianças sozinha e agora está enfrentando sozinha a rebeldia de uma das filhas garota parece insatisfeita menina seca com a mãe .
Jessica Raymond cause the two older ones have to deal with six younger siblings
@@jessicachadtherubyfamily2014 It because the mom is a controlling narcissist quack
She looks miserable every time I see her. she does not look like she enjoys her family at all.
Janice Conaway cus she doesn't with ALL them damn kids😂😂😂
I would be miserable too if my children talked to me that way.
Jasmine Jackson well it's her fault for why her kids are this way
ev v Older daughters usually are annoyed by parents lol
Janice Conaway
It's her own damn fault for having her kids. Who the hell has eight children to begin with?
Those twins are either just the typical rude teens or feels left out and rebel ... wonder which
star love compared to that "cash me outside" girl, her twin teens seem like angels lol
Tuesday Janae true...they have attitudes like that little bitch Farrah from teen Mom. I couldn't do it, I'd slap fire from their lil asses!
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star love they've honestly acted like this since the show first started it's terrible that they act like that on camera
star love they're pretty rude but it could be worse for sure
Collin is a total sweetheart who simply needed motherly love, which his mom never gave him. So sad that she failed him and blamed him
And she doesn't even seem remotely sad that he's not around anymore. You would think as a mother, she would feel some genuine emotion.
Guys come in we don’t know how she feels she loves her children of course she does!! Dam she has a million of them a single mom!! Give her a break she does better than I’m doing ! Lol don’t judge
@@roxanneiamawake4311 She's only a ''single Mom'' because she set children against their father, alienated him and didn't give him legal custody rights just because he didn't want to continue filming.
@@Yt76383 Apparently he didn't need that kind or that degree of help according to John and Collin. Also, Kate didn't just abandon him, she refused to tell his FATHER where her son is and John had to search for Collin for 3 years...
The way her daughters react to immediately saying “don’t yell at me” means their mother has messed them up. That’s why they freak out if their mom doesn’t tell them exactly what to do. The mother is probably super critical and puts what they do or say down. And probably made a lot of choices for them instead of teaching them to make their own.
Kate mentally and emotionally abuses all 8 children.
Story of my life
"She didn't ask for our help, she demanded our help." Sad. I helped my mother whether she asked for it or not. Bratty and spoiled teenagers. "Why are you yelling at me?" I never heard her yell.
Scottishroad35 Scots , Exactly! Like it's gonna kill them to help their mom set up their siblings party, or to do anything their mom tells them, or asks them to do. Their behavior is utterly despicable. Such disrespectful brats.
Suprised you consider this bratty, I've seen much worse, I've *done* much worse.
Poop Poo , Well, that's my opinion. I wasn't raised to be disrespectful or bratty. Kids today have such shitty attitudes. It's pathetic.
Don't get me wrong, they were rude. And bad behavior can be found in any generation, it's not just children today. Please get over yourself.
Poop Poo , Excuse you! I do not need to get over myself, or anything! Nobody was talking about past generations. Duh! bad behavior can be found since the beginning of time. No need to get triggered, but then again you said you've been a brat before....so I guess that's how you talk to everyone? 🤓
Collin wasn’t doing what Kate expected so she labelled him damaged and sent him away. I am glad that Jon fought for Collin and he’s with his dad now. Hannah too.
I can’t remember but isn’t Collin one with ADHD or ADD because if he does have that then yes that is difficult if you really know any kids that I have it or whatever yes as hard as some hairs on how to handle that and how to sit there and take care of a kid that has it
@@tammiepage6489 oh please i have adhd, and almost every one of my friends has adhd or add, or some mental illness/disability and we are actually the most well behaved in our family. something we bond about. please don’t generalize. you sometimes can’t tell if someone has it. don’t speak on things you don’t really know about, im tired of seeing this stigma around it.
@@tammiepage6489does that mean abandon your kid? Even when you make thousands of dollars each episode of her weirdass show?
I call bullshit, whatever special program she got him into, she can take him out of for one day for his birthday. That kid is going to feel abandoned and unloved.
I lived in a mental hospital for 3 months you aren't allowed to leave
Destiny Pugh That’s a little different from a school program though
isabella true. But lots I people called it a school. The younger "patients" called it that
Kate is the worst parent ever she scape goated that poor child. And abandoned him. I hope one day he writes a best seller about his evil mother, makes a ton of money and has a good life with a loving family of his own. His childhood is ruined.
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Well it depends if he's in the state. He may be far away.
What her son needed was love and she just put him away in a institution to be over medicated away from his family.
My suspicion as to Collin as that he may be on the Autism spectrum. A house with as much stimulation as this house has with so many kids may very well have been just too much for him. Chances are it was not caught early as he may be more on the high functioning part of the spectrum . As a parent of a child ( now 18 ) who is severely autistic I hear from so many parents and Dr.'s that for higher functioning people on the spectrum it is even more difficult with more kids in the family. They just struggle to fit in and often feel as though they are not the same and struggle to find their place in the group. Behavior issues, self esteem and depression also often become more clear. I am not the biggest fan of Kate's but I do believe as a mother that when Dr.'s and specialist recommend this and that she could not give him the help that he needed any longer in the house I believe it. Love is a wonderful thing for your kids but it does not solve all the problems that kids can have. Medication, Dr's do what they think is best for the patient, sometimes this is a benefit and other times it is not. Not looking for a debate here.
@@jjshimek101 Kate was mean to him go watch the old video of her yelling at him for having fun on the bear. It's not his fault. He would say no. She expected all the kids to listen and follow in line. Kate is crazy!
@@hopebullard460 as mentioned I am not a huge fan of Kate. However, I also am not the parent of 8 kids six being the same age. Her yelling at the kids or to Collin just tells me she is overwhelmed. She stated that she could not meet the needs that Collin needed to address what his special need required. Sending him to a place that specialized in his special need to teach him the tools he will need to manage this sounds like she was following what specialist had recommended. Actually those were her words. Now on the flip side, if she had not followed what the Dr's and specialist had recommended would also have been heavily scrutinized. She was in a no win situation. If Collin had a illness let us say, Cancer and she just kept him home and did not do what he needed people would be in a uproar but because what it sounds like is a mental health issue ( wait....for it....IF it is a spectrum disorder it is medically placed in the category of mental health ) she is judged. Again, I am not a fan of Kate's, but I do believe she did what was recommended and I am sure as a mother it was heart breaking for her.
jjeanette jay Collin is not on the spectrum. He just has ADHD and he is stubborn.
She’s never portrayed a loving mother ever. She’s never been fun or full of patience. Always yelling and controlling and demanding and rude.
Having 8 kids is not easy, I think being controlling was a survivor mechanism for her.
@@KMnnA Y’all always make excuses for terrible parents.
I find it INCREDIBLY weird that Collin wasn't even allowed to leave the "place" he's at, even for his birthday. And Kate doesn't even seem really that upset about it. Nor do the kids. Just seems off to me. I also find it saddening to see how the twins ended up the way they did. Everyone always calls them brats but, how did you expect they would ask for attention growing up with all the focus being on 6 toddlers?? I don't blame them one bit but it's clearly effected their development. Needing to scream and complain loud enough to get attention has become a part of their personality unfortunately
FallingSlowly87 they aren't showing there feeling for him leaving so that they aren't thinking about the fact that someone they love and live with is gone they want to be happy with each other (like that happens) and not think about the negativity (that does happen)
FallingSlowly87 and the end result will be that the siblings will grow up as seeing this as normal and treat their own kids like that.
or it could be the program he's in. he may not be ready to come back into this environment
My mother and father were both so loving sometimes it doesn’t have to do with anything of an environment, but just our brain chemistry. My parents couldn’t let me out of the place I was for my birthday granted I wasn’t as young I was 17 but it’s still hard. Hard for everyone. It’s not an easy decision to let your kids go.
FallingSlowly87 where did Collin go?💀
Did she say "Kate stop yelling at me!"? They're Mom is just asking them to help her. Geessh they have no respect or kindness
acct137 even if he was home, they would of all walked over him
French Vanilla I still can't believe she called her mom by her first name
French Vanilla if i said that to my mom she would have killed me
French Vanilla she said "k stop yelling at me"
Heyitslivv98 No, she said Kate...she's done it on NUMEROUS occasions even as a child when the show was called Jon & Kate plus 8....Kate and Jon used to think it was cute and never corrected her. Now it's metastasized in a negative way.
"Stop yelling at me!" Translation: stop criticizing and controlling me.
Yes! Exactly
BINGO
@@aerialhardaway4634 because two seconds before it’s always: you refuse to do (obey: micromanaging)
Yeah she missed the message because she's like "I wasn't yelling".
Like okay you weren't literally yelling, that's true. What they were REALLY saying is back the fuck off.
It's funny how Mady's treating Kate just like Kate used to treat Jon. Lol
How I see it. Kate is treating Mady how Kate treated Jon. Kate doesn’t let anyone mistreat her unless she mistreats first.
Everyone is calling Maddy a brat but anybody who’s ever seen the show knows Maddy acts just like her mom 😂
I need to break it to you but you can’t blame her because at the other day I’ll be the focus is always on the sixth of the children more than her and her sister so that must be hard for her growing up and she’s a teenager that’s what I fucking teach do it I don’t know what’s wrong with people when they do their Colorado because what you were never teenage before and I’m sorry I like a typical teenage girl because they do they get moody and everything else and most teenage girls yes they act like brats and it’s really sad that most people can’t fucking admit that
@@tammiepage6489 I hate to break it to you but I am a teenage girl. And ik exactly how teenagers are. I’m 17 years old.
And this comment was from when I was 15
She learn by the woman who raised her aka her mother.
@@tammiepage6489 what teen girl hurt you 😂
As a grown woman I still cannot call my mother by her name😳
As a young adult I can call my biological mother by her name, I mean like its on her birth certificate its her name. Not everyone has a mom let alone a good one.
@@sierracollins1383 omg who cares
@@sierracollins1383 everyone has a mom!! Even if the mom is not involve
It's a sign of disrespect and detachment.
My aunt got a slight attitude when I called her by her given name and not ‘aunt Heidi’ when I was a kid. But that only happened once.
The connection between mum and daughters is so awkward
If a Hispanic mom heard her talk to her she would FEAR the chancla.
Gabby Palacios onm.
Ur cute
Haha true 😂
Gabby Palacios Why do people have to separate Hispanic moms and other moms!?🙄
Hidden Potato because their stupid 😂🤷🏽♀️
I'm 40 I would never call my mother by her 1st name. She would backhand me with her 74yr old hand. 😒😒
CrazyCatLady78 lolilollolololiloloilililililolillililo
CrazyCatLady78 my mom encouraged us to call her by her first name when I was a kid
lol I only call my parents by there first bane
is it just me or does kate kinda sound like ellen degeneres?!
...no... just me! 🤷♀️
OMG SHE DOES
I’m glad to see someone else thought so too
LoL she does
Ugh now everytime i hear her voice ill be thinking about ellens nasally voice lol
The Gymnast Peypey I SWEAR I WAS JUST THINKING THAT!!!
Why did she say "Kate, stop yelling at me" if I called my mom by her first name lol...
Nila Smith I wouldn't be able to sit down for a year
I can't imagine getting angry over something so dumb. I was a bratty kid who did things like maddie and honestly punishment never worked. It only made me worse. I realize that some people are easily put in their place but I can only imagine the hell I'd cause if my mom laid a finger on me for calling her by the name her mama gave her. LMAO
CoSo Design calling your parent by their name is incredibly disrespectful
I heard "Kay please stop yelling at me" as on "Kay' as in "okay"
I thought it was kinda funny when she said that....that’s just the way teenagers are when ur a single mom raising kids.
maddy just needs to get a life and take a chill pill
Watson Family2 i
Watson Family2 how old is she
Watson Family2 she is probably told to act like that for the show
Evelyn O'Malley i don't think so she's always been like that ever since the first episode
Ginebra Arias EXACTLY
Interesting how Maddy is usually sasy and MAD and Cara is caring...their names really fit their personalities.
Maame Dansowaa my dog name Maddy but you mean people lol I miss her
Uhm cara isnt caring. She doesnt even help them
Cara is Irish for friend.
Maddy is beyond sassy. Try controlling and manipulative. scary
Lol! True!
Hmmm Kate talks to Maddie like she use to talk to her ex husband 🤦🏽♀️
The TWINS Are Extremely Annoying on a Grand Scale.
Maddie yes, Cara is just quiet
@@amandaboyens Really? I find Cara slightly more annoying lol. Which doesn’t say much because Maddie is extremely annoying too lmao.
@@BrookeKatherine. true 😂
I wonder what lies she told her kids about colin !
These teenagers are very disrespectful. I have noticed that for a long time. This is ridiculous.
Alexcia Lindsay They are a product of their environment unfortunately
They act just like their mom. I didn’t see blatant disrespect though, just typical teen sarcasm. As my mom used to say they were “smelling themselves”.
Seems to me Collin is a thoughtful, kind and well-adjusted kid. I don’t know what Kate’s talking about here.
She's been "dreading" her kids getting older because then they can fight back.
6:13 Kate: *talking in a calm, quiet voice*
Maddy: wHy ArE yOu YeLlInG aT mE
It's because her mom is a narc which causes hypersensitivity in children.
Which then not even two seconds later Maddy clarifies what she means.
i think maddie actually meant something else like the way she described "yelling" was her mom talking on a disappointed voice i think she just said yelling because there is no other word for it my sister does that all the time she keeps on saying things like she hates the way i do this no its not the right thing stop but she says it all on a calming voice i also sometimes say that my sister keeps on yelling at me even though she didnt even raise her voice
Right?! That wasn't yelling
I know everyone craps on Kate, but she is actually pretty passive with the older girls, if anything it almost seems like they need MORE structure and are super spoiled. Maddy is a brat and she even called Kate "Kate"....hell no, that is so disrespectful. I know Kate is a controlling type A, but as the kids have gotten older I think she noticed that she can't "control" them as much without them retaliating so she just kind of throws her hands up and says "fine, do what you want".
Damn I've had shitty days but those girls are nightmares
DancexHelen they have no respect for their mom! Sad
DancexHelen I
let my daughter talk to me like that 👋
Gelly.The.Great p
Gelly.The.Great 😂
ok
Gelly.The.Great glad I'm not your kid
Gelica up
"Your just yelling in a quiet voice"
Ummm okay.
Kolby Bernard Ik it’s not yelling if it’s quiet
Kate's abusive if u lived with her u would be super sensitive too
I think she meant the tone of her voice
You're
Maddie is a replica of Kate
Gita Kara has Kate’s bad attitude
Cara and Maddie both
I think maddie is kate but cara is jon - quiet, not interested in anything
She really isn’t if you follow her on insta she actually seems very nice. Reality shows like to give ppl different personalities. Yes she may act mean towards her sibling but like all sibling are mean to each others
Identical, no smile, me, me me .. anf of couse in front of the caméra she s princess
watching this & realizing where collin actually was being abused... so sad cause she talks about it like he was burden if he didnt go
What do you mean he was being abused at the institution?😥
@@KC-bc2tb yes he was sadly
@@KC-bc2tb yes
those girls and kate will be forever single with those attitudes lol
Bit of Everything Kate has no attitude
MONEY MONEY Since when? 😂. She’s nothing but drama and attitude. Where do you think the kids (especially Mady and Cara) get it from?
"Forever single?" Darling, you sound like a high school mean girl, not an adult. I mean, calling children bratty or obnoxious is fine, but insinuating they will never in their life find love just because they aren't fully mature as kids.. Are you that dense? Lol so many teens are like this, if not worse! Only thing is they haven't had their entire lives broadcasted on international television for all to judge. I'm sure you were no angel youself and here you are with your little wedding profile pic...LOL. It is so pathetic and sad when a full grown adult says catty remarks about literal children. Seriously sad.
I agree lol
Lia Mina thank you.
She kinda sounds like Ellen degeneres
Lia Bcnx ohmg you're right, she kinda does 😱
Lia Bcnx i cant unhear this
Lia Bcnx i knew something was up with her voice.
Lila Smith that is so true
Omg yesssss
*yelling in a quite voice*
Lol...
Quiet
To believe the twins just graduated high school makes me feel extremely old.
Omg me too. I can't believe that.
Mady and Cara are not bratty teens by the way. They feel controlled and they can’t do anything right. Every time they pick stuff out, mom is like “Oh that’s ugly” or “That’s unacceptable.” Watch the time when Mady and Cara had to get the same thing for each other in a Season 1 episode. Kate was annoyed with Mady because Mady picked out a Bratz doll and Kate called it “ugly.” They also get shut down when they have an opinion to say especially when they feel upset. At the decorations Mady had a great idea and Kate shut her down. It reminded me how Jon was treated.
Here's a list of things that would happen to me if I spoke to my mom like maddi and cara do:
1. Get spanked
2. Phone taken away
3. Probably grounded
4. No respect from my parents
5. Wouldn't be allowed to hang out with friends
6. All of my technology taken away
Juliet the dancer Me
1. Teeth knocked out
2. Searching for them on the floor
3. Holding jaw in place.
4. Begging mom not to call Dad
5. Dad comes home to yell at me
6. Grounded into adulthood
7. Solitary confinement
8. Siblings laughing at My disfigured face
BITCH PUDDIN' Blam! this one sounds more accurate to me 😂😂
Juliet the dancer honestly your punishments don't even sound that bad lmao
+21 Crybabies well compared to what maddie and cara get, they don't even get yelled at.
+21 Crybabies plus, I'm never really rude to my parents, every now and than when I'm in a bad mood, I will have an attitude but still I don't get in trouble often. If I got in trouble more often, than the punishment would be worse
Nice she can't handle Colin but she goes and gets two puppies.
Bookworm _25 I mean she has 7 other kids. The kids are old enough to take care of the puppies but having a special needs child is different. We don’t know his circumstances either. Don’t judge too quickly.
@@TheTbabylati Still, how can a mom send their kid away and then stress about a party and puppies. Like get your priorities straight or dont make 8 kids
@@kiraanastasiaandersen1145 6 of them were born at the same time tho, she had no choice in it
Kate might not share some really private shameful stuff. Collin might be the psychopath of the family and endanger the others, thus the separation. The chances are high because of the statistics alone.
Puppies are nothing like children.
I like cara she's so calm and just keeps to herself
@3:15
Maddy: "She didn't ask for our help, she DEMANDED for our help."
Yikes.😬
All Colin needed was love and you certainly can't get that in Kate's household.
I think he has a more problem but as a mom she didn't give details on tv or magazine
It is very sad that Collin has just been sent away and has become an afterthought. How bad off is he that he cannot even come home on a pass to be at his own birthday party.
where is he???
Cara is just so boring and just doesn't care about anything. Geez
she seems introverted or depressed.
sndy She's always kept to herself....she's been the same since they started filming Jon and Kate plus 8.
sndy I think she's just quiet. Her sister was always noisy loud and in everyone's business. And getting most of the attention, that she just got "use to" just being quiet and out of everyone's way.
No her ass is just humble and well behaved and respectful
Kaylia Marie Solares to an extent. Compared to Mady yeah, but all around? nah. whenever Mady eggs on about their mom to the camera Cara's quick af to agree and basically repeat it
As someone who also uses "yelling" as a catch-all for "(passive)aggressive/negative/annoyed/belittling commentary", I feel for those two girls. It's difficult to articulate the specific tone/energy of someone's responses to you, especially when you're a teen dealing with a parental figure/adult. It makes it even more of a struggle to communicate than usual, bc you say "stop yelling at me" and the adult responds with "I'm NOT yelling, my voice isn't even raised!" Instead of realising that the kid is trying to say "I need constructive input, not negative input/what you're saying is coming across as being told off" and adjusting their tone/approach to the problem
6:40 “Your yelling in a quiet voice” I cant,😂😂😂😂
Honestly I feel for Collin but he's lucky he's away from this evil witch.
yelling in a quiet voice is called talking....the more you know
You never know how valuable a mother is until she is gone.
ayan hussein right this is what I tell my kids
Not everyone has one in the first place.
magnetothewhite STFU
@magnetothewhite she's really not that controlling, all moms should be controlling not just letting their kid do whatever they want
@magnetothewhite
OK LMFAO
The twins are saying exactly what she wanted Jon to say to her. "What do you want me to do?"
“She didn’t ask for help she demanded our help” I’m so weak 😂
You can't even take your kid out of his new "school" for his freaking birthday?
The should send Maddie away to anger school with Collin, obvious she send the wrong kid to boarding school 😡
You abandoned your son. You think it was tough for you how tough do you think it was for him.
Kate-*talks calmly*
Maddie-*Why are you yelling at me??*
It's common if someone has a narc parent to be hypersensitive...cause of the emotional stress they cause.
It was probably edited.
She literally told her daughter to decorate, the daughter picks a spot for a photo shoot then the mom says no not there I don’t like that there, THEN the daughter is like ok then tell me what you want me to do next and the mom is like um im giving her the options to do what she wants ?!?! Like girl I just watched 4 mins of you talking to your kids and I already want to run away from you. I used to think the older daughter had such a bad attitude but now I watch this back and think to my self that she probably just didn’t want to hear her moms shit anymore
Maddie has the most horrible attitude since day 1 just like Kate 👯♂️
Teame love Product of her environment unfortunately
That's not yelling,i know what yelling is,and that's not it at all, you piss off my mom you are going to hear yelling...
Imagine getting puppies while your send your son to suffer in an institutiom for 2 yrs
Imagine being more interested in getting puppies than having your child around. Poor Collin.
Mady‘s reaction at Kate telling her to keep lowering the map 😂
wow times flies...i first time seen them when they were 6
Imagine having another sibling who shares absolutely no family memories with you.
What do you mean?
@@vaniliacaramelllo338 Collin stuck in an institution and not being included in family events (such as his birthday).
A lot people do
It’s soo sad that Colin was treated sooo badly that his own mother sent him away to a psychiatric facility and not to his own father! Boycott TLC
Does Mady not know the definition of yelling ??
Gripping, bitching, whining...
Yelling: a *loud* sharp cry
hol up how were they raised?
“Yelling in a quiet voice” that is literally the exact OPPOSITE of yelling
Lmfao for real. Made no sense, maybe she meant stop being condescending.
She used her kids as a cash cow for so many years. And basically, divorced Jon because he didn't want to do the show anymore. Imagine what she is like off camera.
What could possibly be so wrong with Collin that he couldn't be with his family???? Seems he's be away from the family for a very long time...sad
Tori Wissinger 👏 I agree 100%
+Tori Wissinger i agree. pitiful really.
he was constantly being kicked our of schools.
I agree. A child should never be sent away for any reason. Even parents of kids with profound disabilities manage to keep them at home with support from visiting specialists. She is making poor excuses, but Jon is also as much responsibme
Kelseys_storys so was a few other of her kids. Why send one and not others?
Thank you for reminding me just how Kate's personality is so much worse than I thought 10 years ago.
“Yelling in a quiet voice” what!!?!?!? 😂😂😂
“ anything that I think is ugly is good because little girls like that’s kind of stuff” 🤣
It's funny because Kate (at least on tv) is explaining why she makes sure she doesn't yell, so she says it in a quiet voice, but for the kids they know their mom, and so to them since they know she has yelled, the voice/tone "to them" not any of us, she uses is probably equally emotionally upsetting and because they feel like this, they call it yelling (even though she isn't), I think they should talk about different ways of communicating so that they can be more aware of this, thought because they're kids, it would take awhile but still might help. I do think Kate is doing one heck of job raising this many children! :-)
Yesss I was thinking the same. Like I know when my mom is mad even when it's not super apparent to people around us. Maybe this comment section is full of people who lack awareness lol. Cause geez. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Her voice sounds like Ellen D.
"Yelling in a quite voice" 🤣🤣
...just decided to watch this (again), all I can say is WOW, Kate talking about Colin not being there for the Birthday party "... tough for them, tough for Mom..." I guess it never occurred to Kate how tough this day would be for Colin (being all alone)... all alone where SHE sent him (and she refuses to tell the rest of the family where that is). We don't hear much from/about Kate these days... GOOD, and I hope she now realizes what the vast majority think of her!
Ya know I don’t really blame Maddy or cara, if they had a loving calm mom, they would have grown up to be loving, calm, kind people. It’s so obvious from not only the show but their personalities that they did not have the right environment to flourish in. People aren’t just born assholes, they’re raised.
Many of these comments regarding Collin are incredibly insensitive. We do not know the full story about Collin, and it's more than likely it's more than just "anger issues". He could have some form of mental disorder or social development issues that are better treated by professionals. Its obvious that Kate very much loves all her children as she is constantly striving to give her children everything they need to do their bests. Though she has her moments, Kate loves all her kids and probably is withholding information about Collin's dissapearance for his safety and privacy.
what happened to colins?
No reason to leave Collin out of the birthday festivities, its his birthday too!
"You're just yelling in a quiet voice" yep Mady, exactly👍🏼
Why does she sound like Ellen?
Evelyn Blueford I know right!
She..doesn't?
Mady is such a mood. She's pretty relatable, so yeah she makes the show fun
This video must’ve been taken when Collin was “sent away”! It’s horrible for what Kate did to him! But I am glad that Jon was able to track him down and invite him to come live with him! Sorry for using him more than twice!
That woman is stressing her children out when it should be fun!
Why is madie so upset about 'decorating' according to mom she's really good with that. She has to help mom
mis vlogs Because her mom is a control freak who micromanages everything to the point that she would have found some form of a flaw in Mady’s decorating, even if she did it Kate’s way. She’s not happy with the results unless she does it, but then complains she doesn’t get help. These poor kids can’t win.
Yeah but she treats the 12 year olds like little kids
brittanie sidebottom
Omg this is my parents to a tee. It drives me crazy.
She knows she does have to help and she does help but it’s frustrating when you have a mom who controls absolutely everything.
i like how when they are on the couch maddie just runs her mouth and won't shut up and carrie just sits there with that blank look on her face
Jon and kate 2.0
Wait wtf did she just send Collin to a mental institution or whatc
It's funny how she didn't even carry remorse when it came to Colin
oh come on all teenagers are brats lol
but Haha "yelling in a quiet voice"
Please stop stereotyping
don't take it so seriously...
All teenagers are brats point blank
These are just the more brattier type
YOUR JUST YELLING IN A QUIETER VOICE 😂😂😂
I have seven kids, and I would feel like such a failure if mine acted as selfish, whiny, and unloving towards their siblings. I constantly feel like umm not a good enough mom, or that I'm messing up. Watching this makes me so thankful and proud of my kiddos. Since when does being a teenager mean you're a whiny selfish snot? I don't blame them though, they've had a narcissist raising them. And poor Collin. I've never seen him act unnaturally difficult, he's a great kid.
2:10 Poor Collin didnt get to be with family on their Birthday!!!! Wtf 🤬
“your just yelling in a quiet voice”
lmao mady
She never once did anything for the kids. She did it all for the show and herself