Thanks a lot for your review. I purchased two weeks ago and I'm waiting for delivery from USA now. My configuration is 7840U, 32 GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Really looking forward to it!
What has your experience been like especially with the fan noise and performance unplugged please? I’m trying to decide between this g10 with 14 inches or the g11 with core ultra 155h. Battery life is secondary for me. I just need something with decent performance and most importantly reasonably quiet
This is such a great review and so under-viewed! Thanks!!! The only thing I didn't like about this laptop is screen resolution (only full HD). It would have made a whole lot difference if it is at least 2K :(. Other than that, everything else seems perfect!
It only has one heatpipe cooler. P16s and P16V have more. The 14" Thinkpads and Elitebooks usually hit +55c on keyboard top row with long sustained workloads.
Just saw your reply to one of the comments that you got the P14s gen4 with the same processor. I just ordered this p14s gen4 AMD as well but won't be receiving it for another couple of weeks. Would love to see your review/comparison.
Just received the ThinkPad T14s Gen 4 today, so will be a little while before the review is out. My Yoga Slim 7 with the AMD Ryzen 7 7840S APU is coming next Monday too! 👍
Can a third party AV like Bitdefender run along side Wolf Security or should Wolf Security be disabled if it can be disabled? How does Wolf security compare to Bitdefender? Thanks!
I found in some benchmark that HP 865 G10 has better battery life then thinkpad t16 gen 2 amd, even has smaller capacity 76Whr vs 86Whr with the same CPU.. how is that possible same CPU same display 400 nits..??
Hi, thanks for the full presentation But I'd have liked to have informations about BIOS / UEFI default parameters : SSD BIOS encryption and 3rd signature management
@@Dovecomputers wow I would be eager for you to also check the T14s gen 4, since there is also a chance that I could go for its slightly bigger brother the T14 gen 4
Hi, can you explain if the iGPU that is Radeon can carry out computations with Machine Learning and Deep Learning professionals? Or that's only performable on Nvidia Graphics cards that support both Tensor and CUDA cores? I'd appreciate your reply. Thanks.
The answer is yes it can ( AMD provides a software platform called ROCm that supports major machine learning frameworks like TensorFlow and PyTorch) but won't be as good as a NVIDIA dedicated GPU. So if you rely on it for your workflow, get a workstation with a NVIDIA RTX Ada GPU.
Thank you for your review. Can you tell me how many watts the cpu package power is when you play games? As measured by Msi Afterburner, the Acer Swift Go 14(780m) has a cpu package power of 30w when playing games.
The NL HP Store is selling the Ryzen 5 model. There seems to be a AMD chip shortage for the past 2/3 months. Plus the AMD Ryzen 8000 series processors will be out soon. Also notice Lenovo and HP selling the 14th Gen Intel CPU models first.
Only CPU is soldered but they've been like this for a long time. Shite like XPS 13 has RAM and SSD soldered too, completely unserviceable piece'o'shite.
Here in italy i can only find the 7840u 1x16gb ram 512gb ssd code 7L802ET and the 1x32gb ram and 1tb ssd code 7L804ET is possible to know the ips model?
With previous models I was able to customize (or was available off-shelf variant) keyboard - dual-point (track-stick) with 3-buttons - does this one (HP still) offer that?
Where can you buy one of these with the 400 nit screen and 71Whr battery? On the UK website, there's only one option, and it only has the 250 nits 45% NTSC screen, and a 51Whr battery.
@@Dovecomputers Yikes! The price difference is quite significant (£800 more). I might just buy from HP, then try to DIY upgrade the screen and battery myself later on... 🤔
Not worth the price difference. This is where I prefer Lenovo as they have 'build your pc' options on most of their laptops. HP should bring the same to the UK, they have customisable options on their USA store.@@MnemonicCarrier
I like the AMD iGPU (780M), upgrade in color accuracy, and QHD web camera. Just keep in mind it needs 32GB of RAM (2 16GB sticks) for max GPU performance.
@@ИвайлоКаназирски No, it's not. The amount of RAM allocated for the GPU depends on the software or game requirements. Windows 11 may allocate more RAM for the GPU as needed
Agreed. I would have thought with the 76Whr battery light office work would be closer to 13 or 14 hrs rather than 10+. Another review had the 51Whr battery about the same, so I don't know what's going on here....
Its not about the CPU. Apple has benefit of developing both software and hardware and thus can optimize the efficiency. Iphones have way smaller batteries than android but still get way better battery life being so efficient. (btw I have never owned apple devices)
You are comparing battery life of a x86 vs an ARM CPU? Might wanna compare performance under some real load like a KVM virtual machine. ARM processors are completely dead meat once you throw a VM on them.
Trying to do this with the ZBook Firefly range and now the EliteBook 1040 as the ones inbetween the EB and Studio. Too confusing with too many overlapping models.
Thanks a lot for your review. I purchased two weeks ago and I'm waiting for delivery from USA now. My configuration is 7840U, 32 GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Really looking forward to it!
The 7840U/780M combo is awesome! 32GB will make a different to the 780M. 👍
@@Dovecomputers did you test integrated GPU with additional 16GB RAM module?
Yes. 55% improvement in gaming performance with dual channel memory. Will mention it in the next 780M laptop video!
@@Dovecomputers Wow 55%! Sounds great 👍
What has your experience been like especially with the fan noise and performance unplugged please? I’m trying to decide between this g10 with 14 inches or the g11 with core ultra 155h. Battery life is secondary for me. I just need something with decent performance and most importantly reasonably quiet
This is such a great review and so under-viewed! Thanks!!! The only thing I didn't like about this laptop is screen resolution (only full HD). It would have made a whole lot difference if it is at least 2K :(. Other than that, everything else seems perfect!
Thanks! HP have been letting the EliteBook range rot over the last few years. Totally agree, the display lets the side down.
I watched 2 reviews and I'm already subbed to your channel, great review videos!
It only has one heatpipe cooler. P16s and P16V have more. The 14" Thinkpads and Elitebooks usually hit +55c on keyboard top row with long sustained workloads.
Also air goes out only one way. I'm not particularly thrilled with this cooling design either.
Excellent review. Thanks
Good job 👍
Would you recommend this over the Probook 465 G11 (7730u and 2K)?
Thanks, EliteBook is the superior spec and better performance.
Just saw your reply to one of the comments that you got the P14s gen4 with the same processor. I just ordered this p14s gen4 AMD as well but won't be receiving it for another couple of weeks. Would love to see your review/comparison.
Just received the ThinkPad T14s Gen 4 today, so will be a little while before the review is out. My Yoga Slim 7 with the AMD Ryzen 7 7840S APU is coming next Monday too! 👍
Great video
Great review! Did you by any chance get around to comparing the keyboard to that of the Lenovo ThinkPad?
Can a third party AV like Bitdefender run along side Wolf Security or should Wolf Security be disabled if it can be disabled? How does Wolf security compare to Bitdefender? Thanks!
I found in some benchmark that HP 865 G10 has better battery life then thinkpad t16 gen 2 amd, even has smaller capacity 76Whr vs 86Whr with the same CPU.. how is that possible same CPU same display 400 nits..??
It depends on the thermal throttling profile. BIOS can be controlling this.
Great review but 1 suggestion for gaming reviews kindly plug in the charger while doing that to get better results (I saw unplugged while gaming)
Thanks, that's just b-roll footage. Actual gaming benchmarking is plugged in. Thanks for your comments!
Perhaps there is to mention that each AMD Apu need a 2nd ram slot to enhance gpu power up to 55% ;-)
Yes, but it is limited by 512 mb of bios . That kinda sucks
Does this laptop have NFC? and do you know how to use it? do you also know how to use the smart card?
Some models have NFC and the smart card enabled, others don't. The smart card reader is more likely to be an optional extra.
Hi, thanks for the full presentation
But I'd have liked to have informations about BIOS / UEFI default parameters : SSD BIOS encryption and 3rd signature management
Noice indeed, I am in doubt this one or ThinkPad T16 gen 2 amd
Just taken delivery of the Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 4 with the same APU/iGPU as the 865. Should be a good comparison.
@@Dovecomputers wow I would be eager for you to also check the T14s gen 4, since there is also a chance that I could go for its slightly bigger brother the T14 gen 4
Only received the T14s G4 today, so it will be a while before the review, thanks 👍 *Yoga Slim 7 AMD R7 7840S coming on Monday too.
@@drishalballaney t14 has worse battery
I was waiting for the "bad" and the "really bad" but I didn't hear anything like it.
Great review, but please allign music volume. When you talk silenlty and then switch to some music which is very loud its very bad.
+1
Hi, can you explain if the iGPU that is Radeon can carry out computations with Machine Learning and Deep Learning professionals?
Or that's only performable on Nvidia Graphics cards that support both Tensor and CUDA cores?
I'd appreciate your reply. Thanks.
The answer is yes it can ( AMD provides a software platform called ROCm that supports major machine learning frameworks like TensorFlow and PyTorch) but won't be as good as a NVIDIA dedicated GPU. So if you rely on it for your workflow, get a workstation with a NVIDIA RTX Ada GPU.
@@Dovecomputers thanks for replying.
Where can I find ROCm?
Would it support my Ryzen 5 4500U (Zen 2 based laptop CPU) ?
Thank you for your review.
Can you tell me how many watts the cpu package power is when you play games?
As measured by Msi Afterburner, the Acer Swift Go 14(780m) has a cpu package power of 30w when playing games.
Short bursts up to 30w then 25w over time.
@@DovecomputersThank you very much!
This compared with Thinkpad T16 gen 2 amd, your humble opinion Dave.. Thanks
Want to see this comparasing as well and Dove opinion which one is worth the money
How would you compare this to the LG gram 16ZB90R? thanks!
i cant find this anywhere in the netherlands, why?
The NL HP Store is selling the Ryzen 5 model. There seems to be a AMD chip shortage for the past 2/3 months. Plus the AMD Ryzen 8000 series processors will be out soon. Also notice Lenovo and HP selling the 14th Gen Intel CPU models first.
@@Dovecomputers hm okay thanks, its strange because here i can get many 7840 models from AMD, I really wanted this one as a dev laptop
I missed does this unit comes with soldered wifi card
No, it's replaceable.
Only CPU is soldered but they've been like this for a long time. Shite like XPS 13 has RAM and SSD soldered too, completely unserviceable piece'o'shite.
Here in italy i can only find the 7840u 1x16gb ram 512gb ssd code 7L802ET and the 1x32gb ram and 1tb ssd code 7L804ET is possible to know the ips model?
With previous models I was able to customize (or was available off-shelf variant) keyboard - dual-point (track-stick) with 3-buttons - does this one (HP still) offer that?
no
Where can you buy one of these with the 400 nit screen and 71Whr battery? On the UK website, there's only one option, and it only has the 250 nits 45% NTSC screen, and a 51Whr battery.
HP Store won't sell these models as you stated. Need to buy the other 865 G10 models from the online retailers. The SKU is 819K7EA#ABU.
@@Dovecomputers Nice one - thanks for that (and for the review).
@@Dovecomputers Yikes! The price difference is quite significant (£800 more). I might just buy from HP, then try to DIY upgrade the screen and battery myself later on... 🤔
Not worth the price difference. This is where I prefer Lenovo as they have 'build your pc' options on most of their laptops. HP should bring the same to the UK, they have customisable options on their USA store.@@MnemonicCarrier
I like the AMD iGPU (780M), upgrade in color accuracy, and QHD web camera. Just keep in mind it needs 32GB of RAM (2 16GB sticks) for max GPU performance.
Yes, but it is limited by 512 mb of bios . That kinda sucks
@@ИвайлоКаназирски No, it's not. The amount of RAM allocated for the GPU depends on the software or game requirements. Windows 11 may allocate more RAM for the GPU as needed
I thought 7840u battery would be revolutionary like apple M series. Im disappointed
Agreed. I would have thought with the 76Whr battery light office work would be closer to 13 or 14 hrs rather than 10+. Another review had the 51Whr battery about the same, so I don't know what's going on here....
Its not about the CPU. Apple has benefit of developing both software and hardware and thus can optimize the efficiency. Iphones have way smaller batteries than android but still get way better battery life being so efficient. (btw I have never owned apple devices)
You are comparing battery life of a x86 vs an ARM CPU? Might wanna compare performance under some real load like a KVM virtual machine. ARM processors are completely dead meat once you throw a VM on them.
Does anyone on here know whether the keyboard has a smooth or a rough surface?
Smooth.
@@Dovecomputers Thanks for the quick reply!
no ethernet port :(
Getting to a Apple like way with carrying adapters around. The Lenovo ThinkPad T16 Gen 2 wins out with this.
And no SATA SSD slot either :) We're gonna lurk around 15 adapters and cases with these new laptops to perform basic tasks.
I wish they could find common ground between tinny Elitebook, and the too bassy Zbook studio.
Trying to do this with the ZBook Firefly range and now the EliteBook 1040 as the ones inbetween the EB and Studio. Too confusing with too many overlapping models.
@@Dovecomputers Yes and it's hard to communicate build quality and good engineering in a video
Manufactured by Foxconn, CPU by AMD, what exactly did HP do?
Doubled the price and paid for marketing?
OK maybe warranty and creepy support.
Exactly. That's all they do nowadays. But this applies also to Dell, Acer, Fujitsy, Lenovo, you name it.
One small strange question those two rubber piece from each side of truckpad, what does it stands for.. Does anyone knows