The Rise and Rise of Raf Simons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Raf Simons just showed his Spring 2023 collection as his first collection in London. The collection was certainly divisive, but of course came with massive press that brought more eyes to the Raf Simons brand. Raf Simons as a company has been incredibly influential to the industry in this same was since its inception in Autumn Winter 1995 and hopefully will continue to influence fashion for many years to come
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@@understitchYT me too but hopefully this means more raf for prada🫶
@@ginsengstrip2002 I think he will take over at Prada and I think Mrs Prada will go to Miu Miu, the company she actually has for herself
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Thank you for making these videos, i really enjoy your take on collections and evolution of aesthetics. I'd love to hear you talk about (designers like) Jil Sander and her immense contribution to fashion, that would be a very different affair today without her groundwork, and to hear your thought about why nobody seems to be able to do what she did - in regards to establishing a design aesthetic that lasts instead of chasing viral looks that nobody will admit to have liked, ten years from today ;)
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Absolutely love Jil Sander, she really started the last solid label-aesthetically driven movement in fashion (Now its more trend focused). She contributed so much to fashion in minimalism, but I think it was her brand that stopped everyone from wanting a ‘brand aesthetic’ because the company fell so hard
@@understitchYT Fair point and I have to say I agree. I admire enormously what she accomplished, but the label today has lost connection to what she was about, in my opinion. Also the quality of the garments, while still solid, isn't the same anymore. Make a fanboy happy and do a video on Frau Sander :D
While I agree the quality has dipped, I think its an industry wide thing as consumers have become more intewrested in labels and less in the quality that used to come with them. I think theyve evolved naturally with this change, whereas other brands (Burberry) have really struggled
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Very well written and presented. Invest $200 or so in a decent mic! Re: Raf, too bad I didn't invest in some pieces from those earlier collections when I got into fashion back in 2007. It was still hyped amongst fans but normal second hand pricing, it wasn't until rappers basically became forum fashion nerds that the prices skyrocketed. I wonder if any of his more recent collections will achieve similar cult status, they seem to be largely overlooked aside from maybe the Sterling Ruby collab and fw16. I miss Raf at Dior, especially after years of snooze worthy Chiuri collections. His work at CK was brilliant but the price points were too high, unfortunately an American "luxury" brand is a hard sell, especially if the clothes are primarily sportswear. Honestly think Raf needs to pause his own brand for a bit, he seems to be floundering a bit creatively, his references are all played out, his work at Prada is much fresher. I think he really benefits from the creative method of collaboration, forming a dialogue with existing design language and putting his own spin on it.
I cant afford a mic right now, but thank you for letting me know I could improve it, Ive been trying to think of ways to improve so thats super helpful. I remember Raf in those days too, he had a sample sale in London and I didnt know about it until a week after whn I met a guy that went and he said it was totally empty. I couldnt believe it, but this was JUST pre-rapper blow up that made Raf impossible to get. I wonder if Kiko Kostadinov is going to fill in that retail space with his following often, but fashion in general is more widely talked about
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I would certainly love that, I never expected people to find my content even this soon, so I'm very shocked and grateful
This video is so well researched and helps put into words what I love so much about his designs. I'm glad that you give your honest opinions good or bad about his shows, that's very refreshing. Raf has also had a huge influence on streetwear, which you touched on here with the camo bomber and the stan smiths but I'm surprised you didn't mention its edgy grandson, the parachute bomber. I think that piece was very forward thinking in the trends and street styles almost two decades later (although feel free to correct me if it comes from a different area!), or the I Heart NY sweater which was almost more beaten to death than the stans! If you ever do a directors cut of this I would watch it for hours, there's just so much to learn about him, his brand, and his collabs.
Actually, this was made back when I was trying to make every video 16 minutes long, just for consistency. I’ve since learnt that people want longer videos from me, so it’s definitely a candidate for being remade in the future, for sure, because I want to talk about all of the things that you just listed and more
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I’m still trying to reach 10k 🤣😂
@@understitchYT yea but just saying the quality of your videos are worthy of more subscribers
@@umkomaassewing I got what you meant, I was going for humour in my reply 😅 (I guess this is why I dont make comedy videos 🤣😂)
Love the page and the dedication put into each video. Great content!!!
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agree!
for real. impressed. i will be watching
Plz plz plz do Rick owens
Rick is such a great designer, I absolutely have to!
1:40 it’s confusing how normal and ubiquitous Rafs 1st collection looks…
Yeah its looks really quite plain now, but Im guessing that because 90s fashion for men was so baggy and streetwear inspired thT it contrasted a good portion of what was being shown which is what made it stand out
Can we get a video on Helmut Lang ?🥰
Oh absolutely, his story is so interesting
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There was a whole article in 2001 on how Riot Riot Riot! was a flop in terms of fashion and financially, those bombers would stay at closets forever and even cost just 50$ lmfao
Its so incredible how something can be so hated at the time and yet become so iconic even just a few years later, esp as its one of the most impactful collections even to this day, 20+ years later
i remember being at the riot riot riot show and the vibe was electric but when the stuff came into stores at eg Harvey Nichols in London it was still on the final clearance sales at 70 percent off at the end of the season .. alas i wasnt smart enough to stock up
Wow thats incredible, did you know then how that would be one of the most famous shows ever at the time?
Also, it doesnt hugely surprise me that the clothes didnt sell so well because they were quite beaten up and at an elevated price than the clothes they were inspired by. Its a bit like Yeszy’s first collection, it needed that reputation or understanding of the vision to sell, and that nearly always takes a few seasons when something is so out of the box
I’m still a little confused how we came out of nowhere and then designing?
It is very unclear, he goes from doing construction for Walter, to ?somehow? Meeting Linda Loppa, to design. My best bet is that because he knew Walter he was introduced to her by him, but I simply dont know 🤷
Compare the avant-garde, elegance and use of color and tailoring of Raf Simmons Dior with the tulle, wild mixes and pleating nightmare that is MGC Dior and say this man tenure wasn't superior! Just come back to us Raff we promise to treat you better!
It's really such a shame he wasnt appreciated while he was there, he's been really done dirty by public opinion in his career rly, first when they shut, then wiht riot riot riot and then at dior, its frustrating that thats such a theme for him
he is genius
Absolutely, one of the best designers we have living atm
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Loved the the first menswear at prada tho i think it was an awesome fusion of the classical miltairism of prada with rafs obvious obsession with doing whatever the fok
Funny the menswear continues to get far better reviews, and I honestly agree as well
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unpopular opinion BUT I love Raf Simon's for Dior ❤️
I think this is a very popular opinion these days, its really such a shame he wasnt appreciated in his time
Please do helmut 🙏
Oh absolutely!!
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Please do the video on Hedi Slimane🙏🙏🙏
Thatd be so interesting!
@@understitchYT and mention why Karl liked Hedi so much))
@@FlyingSnow1509 oh of course
Could you make a video about Helmut Lang?
I would love to come, I think that’s a great idea ❤️
@@understitchYT looking forward!
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i wish i was skinny enough to wear raf’s clothes 😢🥺
These days his sizing are much more accessible, but generally this is real problem with the fashion industry that designs are not made for people of all body types
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The auto-translate feature should be available now, no? (I dont speak russian so I cant translate myself unfortunately, sorry)
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Oh I’m excited
amazing content! id also love it if you would do a video on christophe lemaire. i feel like he is such an underrated designer and doesn't get the flowers he deserves
Oh I love Christophe Lemaire, his years at Hermes were the best they've ever had imo, I'll definitely do him
Love your analysis on Raf Simons ❤❤❤
Thank you so much for coming to the premiere, Im so glad you enjoyed the video
Class in session ✨
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when that skeleton and that gymnast didn't ; how my viewpoint
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those are track and field eyewear and he isn't faster ALL raf
He runs like Dash from The Incredibles 🤣
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Just discovered your channel and am obsessed
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we need "the rise and rise of Yves Saint Laurent" pleaseee
I would love to do one on them, but I find them a bit of a let down atm because theyre basically continuing Hedi’s look without Hedi, I just find that a bit 😬😬 so Im hoping for a change up so I can like them again 😂🤣
@@understitchYT but what about a video on him as a designer/person rather than YSL as the fashion house 🥲
Thats 100% planned for the future! I would love to talk about their lives in more detail as human beings. I literally have a list of important fashion people to talk about ready to be researched, but id like to get a foundation of what my channel is about first, so im thinking around the 40 video mark that Ill branch out to exactly that 💕
Santa Cruz surf screaming hand?!?
Please for YSL
meh…
Please do a Hedi Slimane documentary!
I would LOVE to do that honestly, he is such an important designer, who, now that his style is less in fashion is almost more interesting to watch, because he is being forced to change up a little
@@understitchYT I agree on the "forced to change up a little". The marketing on Celine is heavily targeted to Gen Z. Although there are some beautiful pieces show up, his technical skills was constrain by the target audiences in my opinion.
Celine is the first time that he has been woman focused in his design, aesthetic, up until this point it has always been men’s first, at Dior he did men’s, saint laurent, led by men’s, and it’s given us a whole new perspective on his design. I don’t know whether I’m sold on the vision quite yet, but it’s certainly interesting.
@@understitchYT Exactly! Womens wear is way more interesting than mens wear for Celine!
@@williamman7304 the first collection with the 80s dresses was actually so good
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I’ve owned a lot of main line and raf by Raf simons and I can say that the quality on most the RAF by Raf Simons pieces was amazing and very comparable to the mainline stuff.
Not sure where the “poor quality” notion came from maybe there are some that I haven’t seen or felt. I’d say the reason that the brand didn’t stick was because it was supposed to be a more affordable line but was still very expensive. Some of the jacket I own from that line I believe retailed in 400-700 range so they weren’t much less than main line stuff.
I think its poor quality in relation to the price. Like you said it was a high price point and perhaps that wasnt justified in the product quality for many
how tough life can be..
another one of the renowned fashion house closes thier door is devastating.. I wish Raf Simmons fashion house can open again in the future..
Raf would hired someone a designer as the creative director of his own fashion house and talk to Muicca Prada to sold his fashion house to Prada, still continuing the Raf Simmons brand profitable
Kiko couldve easily taken over Rafs branding, but I think his design process would be hard to replicate. He is known for a seriously collaborative process where he gives direction to the team. So without this direction I think that aspect would be tough to recreate
@@understitchYT I agree.. and Jonathan Anderson an impressive designer both brands can manage well creatively.. but I observed that Anderson is more creative at Loewe than it's own brand
I feel like his own brand is now a victim of sales, they seem to be so worried about having easily consumed products that they make things that are not as desirable, at least for the retail offerings
The rise and rise lmao
I couldn't believe it when he announced the closure
@@understitchYT it is understandable, likely he didn't want corporations to turn his name into a commodity.
Everyone else sold out. Even Tom Ford ended up selling his name to Estée Lauder.
Many of these big fashion phenomena have no heirs, no successors, which made me seriously consider having kids a bit earlier than I otherwise planned.
@@understitchYT amazingly well-done videos, by the way. I've shared this one with my best friends and we've been enjoying your other works.
I absolutely love your channel. Could you do one of comme des garçons Paul harden and Elena Dawson please Please and thank you
Unfortunately, all of them might have to wait until after I have a bigger following so that I can guarantee the views, for CDG it will just take a long time to make that video because the company is so expensive, so I will need it to do well, and with the other two I would like to have a guaranteed initial audience just to help push the video because they’re not necessarily clickable names
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Great video man :)
Thank you so uch, I'm so glad you enjoyed it 😇
The Rise and Rise of Louis Vuitton next pls or Off White
I defintiely want to do LV, but Im kind of waiting to see who the new creative director is and what road theyre going to go down first, you know?
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ever designer can not be isolated from walter
Hes such an incredible talent and he inspires so many, its such a shame he is so overlooked
helmut lang when?
helmut lang hopefully soon
Jun is easily better and more consistent than RAF
takayashi or Juun.J?
great video. it sucks that its closing
Thank you so much, yeah Im really upset about it but maybe he will have another return like with riot riot riot
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Huh?
the rise and end is correct tittle sadly
I know, what horrible timing 🥺
@@miraee6579 he closed the company about a month after I released this video
Great analysis as always!
I'm so happy that I was able to buy the CK cowboy boots. I got them in pink patent leather..I wear them every chance I get! I've literally been asked by random people in NYC if I wanted to sell my boots to them on the spot. haha I love his work at Prada, especially, the FW 22 collection. I tried on the blue wool coat with the fur trims around the bottom and arms...the heaviest and most beautiful coat I've ever tried on...too bad it's literally a down payment for a house. haha Maybe I can purchase the coat off TRR or Grailed in the years to come!
I AM SO JEALOUS YOU HAVE THOSE BOOTS!!!! His work at CK was my favourite Raf era but I literally couldnt get my hands on any of it. Still to thisday I check grailed and ebay etc for the pieces so Im so so so jealous you got those boots!