Lampard: Management, Chelsea & Golden Generation Myth | Stick to Football EP 16
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- Welcome back to Stick to Football, brought to you by SkyBet. On this week’s special episode, we are delighted to be joined by Chelsea and England legend Frank Lampard.
Alongside Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher, Ian Wright, Roy Keane and Jill Scott, the team talk about the Stamford Bridge heroes' glorious career as well as the pleasures and pressures that have followed in management.
The three-time Premier League winner speaks about his playing and managerial career at Chelsea as well as their current state having last managed the Blues towards the end of the 2022/23 season.
As a former Everton manager, Frank goes into full length about his time at Goodison Park as well as the current financial state at the club, the FFP restrictions and the impact it had on his former team.
It would be impossible to have Frank around the table without talking about England’s golden generation and the panel also go into full discussion of the mid-2000 rivalry between their respected clubs.
Finally, we end with your Community Questions: How much success was down to work rate compared to natural talent and which player has Frank coached that reminds him of himself the most?
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Chaptering:
00:00 Promo
00:46 Behind The Scenes
04:40 Introduction
04:50 What’s Frank been up to?
07:05 Frank on Everton
16:00 Is there enjoyment in management?
20:05 Everton’s strategy under Farhad Moshiri
26:48 Frank on punditry
30:05 Wanting to become a better manager
31:02 Former players becoming managers
33:00 Managers and their Premier League winning percentages
37:36 Why England’s ‘Golden generation’ failed
46:41 Mid 2000’s Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool rivalry
50:10 Impact of Jose Mourinho and success at Chelsea
58:00 Current Chelsea state
01:03:20 Community Questions
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I speak for everyone when I say we’d all watch a 2 hour episode of this weekly
minimum
hear hear
dont try to speak for everyone. With that being said, many of us appreciate the show.
😂
Why change perfection
"A three hour chat about how England won nothing"
God Bless Roy Keane
He’s a treasure! And apparently open to manage Ireland!
Different bus driver 😂😂
timestamps??
1:15:39
The problem was teams like Argentina, Brazil, Italy and Germany, and then more recently France, don't really have golden generations. The teams are generally good enough to always have the expectation of reaching finals.
"Hard work is a talent in itself" -Frank Lampard.... What a quote.
I think Alec Ferguson originated that one 🏴
Where is this? I listened to the whole thing for it but must have missed it
@@vinsonyeung5234 1:05:09
Wrighty and Keane need there own tv-series like The Trip. Just two of them visiting different cities and stadiums watching games😄
Going to the game hanging with the fans giving there opinions etc sounds good mate copy write it quick.
Great idea
doritos, cheeto or fritos?
"Away Days"
Imagine in Wrighty was 2 mins late 😮😄
And if the don't like it, Monkey Tennis?
This show is so heartwarming,a few grown folks talking about football drinking tea and just chilling ,no negatives … I love it
Truth❤
As a succesful man with a winning mentality I found this episode to be quite negative. There is nothing more worthless than excuses, and poor old hair transpLamp showed why he is worth nothing as a manager
Roy! Sweden got no Manager right now. Please take the job and make us great again.. You can work with Kulusewski, Isak, Viktor Göykeres. See you in Stockholm Roy !? Great !
@@whodiss4473 "As a successful man" - said no self-assured, successful man, ever. And the irony of being disappointed with negativity and then indulging in the most juvenile form of it... just stunning.
And not just any grown folks, great to hear proper legends of the PL speaking so openly 👌
The behind the scenes section at the start is always so good.
Gary suggesting ditching your car on the motorway and getting an uber is a moment.
Everton have been referred again spit not charged
Could watch a whole episode of just that
It's my second episode and both have opened with Roy enquiring about Raspberries. I hope that's a theme
@@davidjones88 A G-wagen no less xD
Ian Wright is such a nice and positive guy. I see it almost every episode. He says hi to the workers, engages with them, doesn’t ignore. His relationship with Keane is so good. This whole podcast has got to be the best available right now! Brilliant
I love how Weighty and Keano are two sides of a coin, dead down to earth etc, but Keane has that surly, sarky "negative" face where Wright is always bubbly and "positive" 😂
I used to work in hospitality at Crystal Palace, he would always speak to all the staff and remember people by name asking about their families, he is a really nice guy
Always seems invested in how his colleagues are doing as people as well, which is just a very kind and empathetic way of living your life
Do the Right Thing
Every time I watch Frank I am shocked at how well spoken and engaged he is, what a great bloke
That’s how he has managed to get too many jobs despite his incompetence. He should be a an agent
@@andyo570he got Chelsea with all “the kids” (James,Mount, chilly straight from Leicester, Abraham, Christensen, zouma, lamptey, etc.) during a transfer ban to top 4 and yes they are all good players in there own right, but the current Chelsea team is young but they are better footballers (I.e caicedo, Enzo, Palmer and they aren’t even mid table) He has to get credit for something he is a decent manager when he can get his players on side he clearly can motivate some style of player maybe it’s because he is a legend to those boys idk. He obviously isn’t pep or even emery but he’s got something for sure. I don’t think it’s fair to say he is incompetent
Tories usually are
He would be a better pundit than manager
He spent most of the time making excuses and then saying I'm not trying to make excuses..
Ian Wright is just a walking cure for depression
Agree but had not thought that untill you mentioned it 😊
You just know he gives loving hugs, bet he’s a great grandad
@@supreme_zeeyus 😂bet you imagine you him giving great kisses too
Well said
Does he fancy shadowing me day to day and bigging me up, could do with it 😂
The five of them make the show but Roy and Ian are becoming a better duo week on week
One of them could deffo be dropped & it wouldn't make a difference 🤐
Ian wright makes it
@@ifeyhomeyep. 😂.
8 9 10 16
@@ifeyhome best parts of the episodes is normally the first 5 minutes when said person is running late...
1:14:24 props to Carragher for asking about that instant face expression change habit of Lampard, relieved to know that he's aware of it and had his say on it too 😂
What time stamp 😂
I can say this with chest and as a United fan my entire life. I LOVE Ian Wright. What a guy! He’s so positive and so attentive with everyone else. What a human ❤️
Wright always has been speaking about United with respect, I always enjoy listening to his analysis before or after games involving us.
Spurs fan here, I was on a TV show 20+ yrs ago he presented and I slated him on my “application form”. He walked into our team dressing room, asked where I was (after our research assistant telling us he wanted to specifically speak to me with one of our team being an Arsenal ST holder) and came straight up to me to ask me loads of questions about my then job which he found fascinating. ABSOLUTE gentleman and legend the whole time. Not one football dig. No pretentiousness, zero diva about him, obviously loved by all.
these "as a e.g. fan" sentances have to stop
@@Tmtrnr as a Spurs fan, I don't see why!
@Tmtrnr I think it's typically used to denote a lack of bias, even opposite in my case. ( some Spurs fans would feel obliged to hate any Arsenal player out of principle.)
The Chemistry between Wrighty and Roy is so nice to see, I am willing to bet that not many people have that with Roy.
micah richards is the other
I think Roy has to have respect for you & also rate you for him to fully let go & be himself in your company
@@ifeyhomeknow him personally do you?
@tombroadbent204 you don't need to know him personally to know that 😂
Just Dennis Irwin
I love how Wrighty showed Keane the mini rolls to tell him it’s raspberry 😂
yeah but the look Keane gave him back when he said it was his 2nd! 🤣 my wife looks at me the same when I go back to the biscuit tin!
Imagine those 2 on a road trip tv show would be epic
😂😂😂 this I love that .
Brilliant insight with Lamps. Top player during his playing career but most importantly a very genuine and humble being. Loved it!❤
Bring in Stevie next 🙏🏽
Carra wouldn't shut up if Stevie G was on
Nooooo...he's so boring 😴
@@user-hi4vm6kk4u Is he? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you smelling Man United fan.
@@brendanboyle4571 Rest assured he won't😂😂😂u got that spot on
Shame they couldn't have gone with Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard on the same show to talk about the midfield with England.
"Another Great Lad" is such a great line....When delivered with irish thought and a critical mind.
😂😂😂😂😂
Nice words from Roy about Seamus Coleman. Not many players get that kind of praise from Keane.
What minute was that at?
23.25 on.
Cheers
Irish legend
just Dennis Irwin lol
Keane: "that wasn't down to Gary and Phil" really got me. Roy with his one liners. He never misses, does he?
Those early 2000s rivalries were something else. The pinnacle of premier league imo
@@Jai-Hind-Forevermore heated yeah but early to mid 2000’s was the best
Its pathetic nowadays.
Whats important to highlight is Spain were maybe the best ever international team and the Madrid Barca rivarly was 10x more intense especially with Mourinho fanning the flames.
@@Jai-Hind-Forever no chance! Galatico era was much more fun
@@MrJeffHeaddon’t forget the Spanish doping scandal of that time. Barca’s teams of that era should be tainted, but it was covered up.
@@paarker don't remember a spanish doping era. I remember the Italian doping era with Guardiola etc being caught
Lamps has been my football hero since I was a kid. Was refreshing to see them all talk openly about the ‘Golden Generation’. Great episode. Wrighty and Keano class as always
My opinion of Frank Lampard has grown massively after this. He speaks very well and is just very knowledgeable and a good lad
I remember reading that Lampard had an IQ test result of over 150, which is incredible if true. It would put him in the top 1% most intelligent people in the world.
That lanyard story with Gary not being allowed into Anfield 😂
100% the security staff were winding him up, lol.
Haha, yeah it would've made me laugh if I didn't realize that Gary N was showing all the signs of an impending mental breakdown
Genuinely, Everytime I watch an ep I feel so totally satisfied and happy and think the next one probably won't be AS good. It always is and infact better! Massive shouts to all crew and editors and of course the amazing stars. Absolutely brilliant!!! You Beauties!
Frank’s just another great lad and one of the finest midfielders this country has produced.
I gave up on TV years ago and now just watch what I want on TH-cam, and this show is bloody brilliant, such a good mix of characters.
Join the club mate!
Same mate. YT Premium > TV Licence.
Me too
Keane genuinely respects Frank. Nice to see.
This is without any doubt,bar none, THE BEST FOOTBALL RELATED CONTENT ANYWHERE ON PLANET EARTH! All the hosts are so amazing and it's unbelievably refreshing to watch and hear from them and the guests on such a more natural level. If the bosses of terrestrial tv channels have any clue? Love you all.
Frank is an absolute legend. You can tell when he speaks, why he was so successful as a player. He will get another job soon enough, any club would be greatful to have him. Another great episode.
lol are you serious, he has tanked every club he has worked at. absolutely pathetic
Ian Wright trying to give Roy half his mini roll 😂😂
Nah was showing its the rasberry inside
Love this weekly episode, and I love Lamps. Not just his goal scoring, but his passing was hugely underrated. Somehow he always found the attacker no matter what. Legend.
Shame most ppl get remembered for the bad things, like Gerrard and his slip. We’re left with Lampard being dog plop at management
@@paulthrutner9114 true but i think of all those rockets they both blew my mind as a kid with.
@@paulthrutner9114 I think bad fans and social media fans remember the bad things. Proper football fans celebrate players and their achievements
@@paulthrutner9114Gerrard wasn't too great at the management either
That first sentence sounds like brick from anchorman
Amazing episode, absolutely love Frank. One of my heroes from his time at Chelsea. A genuine nice guy too lucky enough to have met him once where he took time with us took photos etc while Drogba and others looked the other way.
well said
Wasn't too nice to his ex wife
The look of happiness on Roy’s face when he was appreciating mini rolls 😂
Love it. A Keane fan but I hope you all know you HAVE to get Shearer on. Strangely think they'll actually get on but it would be great to watch the conversation evolve.
Keane and shearer don’t get on at all
Pretty sure shearer said Keane is the only ex player he had beef with that they couldn't get past after they retired. He even gets on with Gullit lol
@@Miceal.your spot on cant stand those two, that’s one episode I wouldn’t watch
They were doing a world cup together & Keane said he's the only ex player he couldn't get on with. But you'll obviously not know about how intense the hatred between Newcastle and Sunderland is. Add that to the obvious football clash & it's a recipe for something you just can't fix.
What about Neil Lennon?
Liverpool fan here....Gary really plays down how good he was as a player.
Gary was one of those player you need in the squad local, passionate, Mr Man Utd but he's not disillusioned that he was Cafu,Zanetti when he had Becks in front of him he was world class though
Yea you don’t win 8 premier leagues starting every single year at right for like 13 years under fergie if you are a bad player, was he a Cafu or a dani Alves no but he was such a good consistent right back the best the prem has seen imo with walker right behind
Its a strange one for me. Not in a million years would he have been signed by united to play RB. Played CB and CDM for the youth team. Wasnt good enough to play those positions for the 1st team. Fergie just seemed to put anyone RB. Started with Paul Parker, signed as a CB, not good enough, stuck him RB. Phil nev played there, as well as LB and midfield. Phil was a much better footballer than Gary, kind of to his detriment as he could do a job in different positions, so became a squad player. John o'shea the same, played RB among other positions. Wes Brown played there. Smalling. Valencia.....all kind of stuck in there at different times to fill a gap.....and the fact you had the best RB in the league playing LB, Dennis Irwin! People go on about Trent these days, Dennis could do all that and defend as well....plus be a great LB!
And the other thing people talk about is Garys relationship with Becks. Obviously best mates. But Gary was a FAR better player after Becks left! He read the game better, obviously became more confident and his passing and crossing improved a lot as he got older. His crossing was shocking in the early years...nearly as bad as Bissaka.
The fact that Gary played in a successful team that won so much, people seem to rate him very highly. But whether gary played or not, that team would still have won what it won! If we had signed a good LB and had Irwin RB, we wouldve won more!
But Gary worked hard and did improve and from his mid 20's on he was a good player and became a good RB.
I laugh every time I see him voted into the all time prem team at RB. Not even sure he was the best RB in his family, just played there a lot more than his brother! But certainly the likes of Walker on a different level.
Trying to think why there were no other good English fullbacks but if Gary had come through at lets say Southampton, and performed the way he performed....not sure he would have been getting called up for England, or at least not have half the caps.
😂
@@adrianmarrinan7707 never heard such nonsense. Gary had an extraordinary ability to perform the basics consistently under the highest pressure. Show the man some respect
Just keeps getting better, and with Frank Lampard being my favourite player, what an episode this one was.
"Oh another great lad" gets me everytime
the "RIGHT!" gets me every time 😂
Gary Neville rushing for the podcast to start when that's the best part 😂
It’s so nasally lol
Wenger would be a great guest on this especially with Keane and Neville going through that great Arsenal v Utd rivalry
Omg they have to get him
Thierry Henry could fulfill that role well too. He’s also good friends with most, if not all of them
That would be unreal
Get Gregor and wenger. On
Joey Barton 🙏
As an Evertonian I will always thank Frank for Trying to get are Once Great club back up off it’s Knees.. He will always be Welcomed back enytime to the Club bye the Fans💙 Once again outstanding insight by this Show🤝👍
Not an Evertonian but that's good to hear. Most lads want you lot to sort yourself out. I'm Utd and of a certain age but Everton has always been a proper club.
Give over, he was lacking insight, motivational skills, direction, purpose. His teams were dour and boring, one of the worst managers in our recent history.
Worse than Koeman? Worse than Silva? Worse than Rafa? Yeah, how about YOU give over lad. @@VileCAESARB
@txbill2512 he bought Maupay fell out with Doucoure, couldn't get a tune out of McNeil and would've got us relegated without a points deduction.Lampard is eloquent and a media darling but a lousy coach.
Lads like I said He Tryed but didn’t work out thats my statement… his heart was in the right place for the Fans and the Club .. but sadly on the pitch it was not the best🤝👍
Love those calm intros with everyone just chatting casually 👍 best show around
The best football podcast on TH-cam. Love the build up and chat before the show starts.
I love when Roy comes in everyone tells him it's raspberry swirls.
Gary, Jamie, Ian and Roy are so good together.
You need to try and get shearer and Roy Keane in the same room for this show! Would be absolutely unreal
1:27 Wrighty showing Keane it's the raspberry mini rolls 😂😂😂 they are a true bromance
😂😂
Felt for Frank and he did connect with the fans, bought a lot of players in that are now doing well under Dyche and tried his very best, just wasn't enough in very difficult circumstances unfortunately
Because he’s a pony manager unfortunately
Poor tactically but top bloke, recruitment always seems to age well under him aswell
He bought Maupay lad and couldn't get a tune out of McNeil, upset Doucoure and would've had us relegated without a points deduction. I never wanted him as manager and it's no surprise we've improved vastly since he's left.
Plus never forgave for his goal on the Cup final.
That French team had Zidane , Henry , Viera , Pires , Petit , Makelele, thuram , trezeguet to name a few . Italy has an unbelievable team and Netherlands had some serious stars too
Brazil too
Brilliant insight as always in these episodes. Carra suggesting Pep may be the best manager of all time .. lets see him at a club where he has to work with a modest squad and budget and see how great he is. Lets not forget what Clough did with Forest as one example of genius management.
Exactly.. I could have a crack at managing if I could go out and buy the best players in the world
No that simple look at chelsea @@strumbolli
Because Fergie’s United dominance was built upon modest budgets?😅
This is the best show out there, kudos to Gary
Different Strokes is better. Arnold is my favourite character
The chilled chat is the best bit. Great podcasts, every week
Frank Lampard what a player what a humble geeza grew up wanting to be him good luck in the future👊🏻
I have to be honest if this show didnt have wrighty it would not be the same
Plus the wrighty and keane chem and friendship is what makes this show so much fun to watch
Wrighty is great but I’m all about the Keane power lines!
Such a brilliant show. And Frank Lampard is one smart engaging dude. A mega talent surrounded by mega talents. Could have listened to another hour.
Good to see they confirmed that the rivalry between the player were too much and they were not getting along when playing for England.
another great episode.
Really like the interaction between Gary, Ian, Roy and Jamie. It works well.
Such a brilliant dynamic in this group and I love the before/after with the cameras still rolling, look forward to it each week!
Keane is spot on about the raspberry mini rolls, stupendous confectionary
I'd love Roy to get the Ireland job. Think he could really get the crowd back on board.
100%
I just said the same... it will boost the crowds morale and also its a young group of players that he would have the respect of them straight away.... but Lee carsley looks like he will get it...
Not a hope. Too divisive a figure with a poor management career behind him.
Yeah.. and the players off board.
Roy pouring tea for Frank. What a scene...
A Play off final away from getting Derby promoted in his first season, he also put the foundations in place for Chelsea’s champions league winning side by bringing through the youth players during their transfer ban. Underrated for what he did in management before taking the Everton job.
Was great with the young players at Chelsea during the embargo
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@peadargill7565 guessing you don’t rate Frank then?!
So good this channel. Seeing the banter before it starts is as good as the episode itself! Wrighty saying "i've gone now" tucking into another choc roll, I can relate to this haha!. A 2hr episode would be awesome, as I can watch listen to these daily, but tbh just keeping these coming with various guests is just what we need weekly. Love it! 👏
I'm a carpenter in a work shop and love seeing these podcasts coming up to listen to in my headphones around work
Please God, don’t ever let this show stop being made, in fact an extra show a week would be great!
Get a girlfriend
Or take up drinking
Frank is such a nice person in general I hope he can find a club to get back on track with his manager career
Grimbsy Town.
G Nev dropping himself from the England team really shows the kind of guy he is
Thank you so much for this episode guys, as a big Lampard fan, this means the world, favourite show with my favourite legend.
I’d love Roy to get the Ireland job….for the last few years we’ve been lacking leadership on and off the pitch. Great show as usual
he needs to bring Wrighty with him
He’d be terrible. Anything but Lee Carsley is a fail.
Quite new to this, but started watching the stick to football pod before xmas and completely hooked. So refreshing. Watched them all and went back through the individual interviews leading into this series too. Think we've needed something like this for over a decade. Very insightful and jokes all round. Fair play
I was waiting for Keane to ask about Coleman.
In a time of flashy cars etc. for footballers I think Keane sees alot of himself in Seamus. A lot of respect there.
Got to say a big thank you for creating this podcast, it's warm friendly informative and the time just shoots by when you watch it. Helps that each person is very likable. Thank you 👍🏻
The banter in the beginning really and truly shows this group as down to Earth and humble people.
Love this programme just brings us football fans together. As a Irish man would love Roy for the Ireland Job.
hell no, hes actually the worst manager being linked with us, would rather lennon over him n most definitely carsley prob desserves it
@@colmm5022 100% agree with you. I'm just saying I'm open to the idea. Even though there's better mangers out there for the job.
My favourite part of the show is the tea party at the beginning
Another fabulous episode! Literally every episode is a 10/10
You guys gotta start thinking about making this twice a week… the conversations are so natural and easy. Two a week wouldn’t water it down one bit
Lampard is a good bloke, wish him well
Another banger of an episode!! So insightful, love that bit about the managers and their winning percentages.
The beauty of this show, these are greats and legends but bringing someone outside in, they just fit so well and there's an endless list but it doesn't matter if they come, you know they will but everyone just completes what's already here.
“He’s Keane” - underrated pun 😂
Made me smile
Fantastic show and great dynamic between the hosts - show build-up is novel and adds value
Love too, Ian Wright Wright Wright ❤
Could listen to Lampard talk about football for ages. Such an intelligent bloke with a great knowledge of the game.
well spoken, humble and an amazing player, his written his name in the history book. well done frank
Can't praise this show enough... Fabulous stuff!! Would be awesome if you guys could get Wayne on there, what a watch that would be... and could make for some great banter too!!
Amazing episode again guys, brings pure joy to a morning this. Massive respect to you all
Good old Frank. Will always be a Chelsea legend.
Thoroughly enjoyable and insightful as usual. Long may this show continue!
i like how lamps was sitting back and just getting acclimated to them bantering with eachother at the start
Want to see Frank do well. Great passion for the game
“Another great lad” , Keane you Legend 🤣🤣🤣
I look forward t these episodes each week 👌🏿 I love to see Gary, Jamie & Roy like this too after their 'hatred' for each other in their playing days. And of course Ian Wright too, breath of fresh air that bloke 😂
The chemistry is fantastic between them all.
except jil
Always a pleasure watching this gem of a show.
This is the best intro to any show wow how they all jus njoyed breakfast ,the joy of socializing is beautiful
The little chats at the beginning before the show starts is the best bit including the weekly chat about the mini rolls with raspberry in the middle
My favourite thing ever on TH-cam. Incredible.
Lampard would be an excellent addition to this pod. Always gives incredible detailed insight to the game
Disagree. Good insight but a boring personality for entertainment
@@tombroadbent204You say that like he wasn't having much banter, he was. Sometimes you want a balance too. Imagine if you had 3 Michah Richards doing punditry
Top episode! Love the BTS lads, keep it going. The "golden generation" chat was really good imo. And ofc, classic Roy as well. Much respect to Lampard, a true legend of the game.
Love the fact that everyone confirms to Roy that the mini rolls are raspberry rolls and how Ian bites into it and also shows Roy that it is raspberry rolls. These little things melt my heart, shows the respect they have to one another within the group..
I love this show so much! It is so refreshing compared to other football podcasts!