Amazing. I always wondered if the modern system would ever allow a Frank Lampard to get through, he is the product of hard work but was a slow player, the speed he got to was through hard work that results didnt show till much later on. they are cutting players way too quickly if they dont have speed I think this will effect any future Lampards, Fabregas even Pirlos perhaps their roles will no longer exist
When you are that gifted, you will make it. A lot of slow players around playing CM. Have you seen Casi from man utd in a sprint. Slow as hell but 5 time CL winner.
Lampard wasnt slow. I wont say he was rapid, but he had average speed. Also the comparison to Fabregas is completely off. Lampard as a young kid played the box to box role with 100% effort both ways. That was why he was so highly rated because his attitude was spot on. It wasnt until he became the main man at Chelsea that he was relieved of some of his defensive duties.
After 25 years of Coaching, i coached both my Sons. It was the hardest thing i did in Coaching. At about the age of 10-12 years you must let them go, and have dif experiences and become a parent. (You can still offer advice, but calmly and timing is critical). Be calm before and after games, but learn to be a parent, it takes completely different skills. Your child needs and normally will develop independent personality at about 9-12 years and if you do not disconnect your relationship will suffer. Become the parent (or Guardian) and support, help and encourage your child to be their best.
Easier said than done, you still have to coach your son and be honest. I coach both my older lads (8 & 11) and the key is not to dwell on it on the car journey home or at home. Keep it in the session. I learnt my lesson about this early on after clocking myself banging on about how my son 'could have done this or that' and seeing them just sat there not saying much. And I had this moment of clarity where I thought 'If I was him, would I want to really hear what I could have done better, what I did well'. The match is gone, forget about it unless they want to talk about it. And its what I do now, I don't say anything unless they ask me. 'How do you think I did Dad?' I keep it short, sweet and remove anything too negative. I might add a couple of 'maybe this' and that's it.
might of been a project with a little less technical ability than others, but became one of the greatest midfielders ever with an absolute natural talent! not many footballers can teach themselves to be a genius technical player from practice alone!
The key message in here is what is the role of the parent. Most parents don’t know the game well enough and can actually get in the way of the kids success. Better for parents to be supporters than do the coaches job.
As a coach one of the biggest problems is parents trying to be a sideline coach and constantly shouting very obvious instructions rather than letting their kids make their own decisions.
Great episode! Everyone talks about his Dad pushing him but from this I got that Frank was so dedicated from a young age to improve and was consistent into his pro years
Parents; Between the age of 5-12 years, i think all children occasionally need a push and encouragement to be told they need to do something if they have made a commitment to a club or team(exceptions are Sickness and injury). But, it is so important to play sports that children enjoy and to build good habits not just for sports, but lessons for life…
Merc, i agree about Joe Cole. I watched him a few times when he was young and was amazed he was not schooled as an England Centre midfielder. This is in stark contrast to Barcelona and Spain nursing and schooling Andres Aniesta for Spain and Barcelona.m to become a World Class Midfielder. It is noted in his Biography that he was not immediately a CM and struggled, he had to learn and develop positional specific skills to play CM
Mers forgetting he got skills. Passing creates the best skill players if they are told to use the ball when they have space. Lamps the greatest ever. Continued to grow over his career great Chelsea player
Jamie makes an amazing point at 1h11mins. Such a fine line of knowing how much to push them and how much to let them want to do it themselves. This has been amazing so far, looking forward to watching the rest tomorrow 🙌
Great show. Please can you guys do an episode about Joe Cole. I love to hear stories from pro's about his next level talent. Stories about the stuff he'd do in training as a junior etc. And of course the amazing career he enjoyed. And perhaps, how we as a nation historically fail to build teams around our great talents
Really enjoyed the open conversation of the topic interwoven alongside Frank Lampard's journey. As many times as they reference parents watching for their own kids, it should be prefaced that early specialization also has its negative aspects. The Tiger Woods story tends to get celebrated as an example but genetics and early exposure to the sport play a far greater role in his development than often is implied. There are far more stories of late specialization (Federer, Nadal, Roy Keane, Neville brothers, most NFL players (88%) all played multiple sports in their youth before specializing in their sport) than early specialization athletes. As parents and coaches, encouraging early exposure to a sport and late specialization (different for each person but generally 14-18 years of age) is statically shown to give a greater chance of reaching elite levels (and have the genetics). Fostering an enjoyment of the sport is the foundation for the passion to be the best at it. great podcasts. keep of the good work.
I found this interesting and alot of focus on pressure from dad's for their sons to make it in professional football. Obviously too much pressure is not good but we all owe it to our kids to give them that drive and desire to improve and give it your all. Whether they'll be professional footballers or not. Just because you're never making it you still have to go out and give it your all.
Was funny around @29:00 when Jamie tries to play down any talk of nepotism and Frank basically says he probably wouldn’t have made it had his dad not been a pushy ex footballer. Of course frank ended up an amazing player, but a lot of us who went through academy systems know a lot of people with amazing potential who didn’t get picked up because they didn’t impress on first impression or didn’t have anyone fighting in their corner behind closed doors
New listener here (US). Love hearing about how football is experienced in England. Amazing episode. We are in the rat race of American club soccer and the discussion around pulling your kid out of academy and into recreational/grassroots soccer hit home. It’s easy to forget that the #1 goal should be for the child to love the game, instead of chasing Instagram moments. Would love more episodes like these!
Isn't the system in the US much different to the UK and Europe? I played at school with a player who went on to play for England at the World Cup and in the Premier League and Champions League. He was at his club academy from at least 12-13 (maybe younger). I only knew him from secondary/high school and I'm sure he was at his club academy from the time of first year of secondary school (which is 11-12 y/o in England). He still had to take school seriously at the time, but I've heard now clubs in England have a school on-site for players so they get some schooling and train at the club from a young age I thought the US was more based on getting to college/university and then they get drafted so I'm assuming it's mainly high-school sports teams, then college and then they get to a club team. Not sure if that's the case or not, bit I thought that was how it worked? I also think I heard from someone that in the US kids have to pay to play (which we have something called "subs" in the UK that kids have to pay each month, but when I was playing it was a pretty small amount of £1-2 a week. If a kid was poor or the family had financial troubles then someone at the club would probably pay for them or let them off paying. Just seems from what I heard the US system is very different and probably makes it harder for talented youngsters to make it as a lot of the development at a young age isn't being trained by local clubs. I'm sure it works well for all the major US sports as there's a big history of players making it. Apologies for the long comment, but I'm interested in if the US system has changed or is so different to Europe. Maybe that's why some of the better younger players in the US like Reyna go abroad so early to get that development under their belts at a younger age than other kids
@@mauddib1761 generally yes, in the US the pro athlete pipeline involves playing for a university and then being drafted into an American professional league (MLS/NBA/NFL/etc.). The difference here for soccer is that soccer is the only sport that the rest of the world also plays, and children across the world play it much, much more frequently than the average American child does, and as such there is no way to be competitive without going to Europe. As you said, most notable American players found a way to learn to play in Europe, where they can lean on being surrounded by players more talented than they are. The American club soccer system does not produce good soccer players - it produces money for clubs and organizations that organize tournaments. It is expensive ($2000-$10000 USD a year on average, with almost no financial assistance for families without the means to pay), time-consuming (2-3 practices a week, 1-2 games per weekend, and several entire weekends per year dedicated to traveling to and playing in tournaments) and can be spiritually draining - coaches, teams and clubs are singularly concerned with winning games and tournaments, even at the youngest ages, leaving no room for creativity, growth and especially fun. We do have a rec/grassroots program (AYSO) but the quality is so poor, kids with any talent don't enjoy it because their teams are composed of kids who've never touched a ball or spend almost no time between seasons playing the sport; it is so unsophisticated that it drives away kids that want to play the sport. My youngest (8) left club to go back to AYSO and he complained his teammates couldn't dribble or pass the ball, and is now asking to go back to club, despite how much he disliked all the traveling. We also have no "casual soccer" environment the way most European and South American countries have; hence the lack of even basic skills in AYSO. American kids don't get out and meet their friends to play, and even if they do we don't have many freely-accessible soccer fields (we do have plenty of baseball diamonds, basketball courts, and tennis courts). So most parents wind up biting the bullet and enrolling their kids in club soccer, which is precisely the position I find myself in, and why I've capitulated to the club soccer environment. I have no aspirations to have my kids become professional players but I also don't want them glued to the couch after school, so here we are. If either of my kids ever says they want to go pro and are serious about it, I'd figure out a way to have them train in Europe.
that method of building plyer is standard tjroughout thw world and we (rest of the world) are imitating tht of the us you just deacribed, creativity is no longer an issue, for that i see americn football catching up very soon, thats what theyre doing at this moment, its all about physical stats and tactics around that physycal dominamce of the whole tem ( no individual positions nymore) and particularly tose are mericans best strenghs and also the easiest to catch up to so, see you soon you maybe lifting something
Just caught this and thoroughly enjoyed the insights and advice provided by all, including from my all-time favourite - Frank. As a coach for a young team, there were some great perspectives shared here that will help guide my coaching journey. Keep up the top work.
Stunning ! Love you Super Frank. Here’s a thing … can we all agree it’s okay to not be a great footballer and as a kid being a part of team is worth its weight in gold ❤
Wow, what an episode, please do more of these with Premier League footballers and having more than 1 of them on the podcast is such a good idea. 150k views is all you need to know, can't wait for the next one
Great interview good to see you Sean after so many years…. Remember when you scouted Nath MW all those years ago….lovely memories I often reminisce on those good old days
Just finished watching. Amazing. Thanks for the colab. And yes please part 3 with K. My boy Nathan adores him a lot. We would be looking forward to it. Thanks so much for the good work. One day you will have Nathan in when it's time. For now we keep working. ❤
Great episode and very interesting! The only thing I would have for Perry is what happens if he doesn’t make it at football? Not saying he isn’t good enough but injury or anything could happen down the road. What is the plan then?
Fantastic pod.. Fascinating insightful journey. Its interesting that Dads (Merce) thinks their Son needs to play “Position Specific”, but his Coach Plays him in Different positions (Different positions offer experiences and knowledge of the game.. )ie even strikers now need to learn how to defend /Defend space).. All about experience & development of a player/Child. For 30 years i have rotated positions to develop the player
Minute 1:12 = i love this moment which just highlight’s the conundrum between the professional (Jamie & his Son) and the father(parent ) relationship and the “Patience /Care & Love” it takes to bring up and develop a child who is potentially going to be a professional athlete. Sometimes, its just it just a bad day(this is children and parenting) but re-enforcing the important habits needed for a high performing athlete is so important for their mental and physical development and a credit to them as a family.
Interesting Merson doesn't agree that a 8-9 shouldnt learn to play other positions. I always thought it's good for a players to be exposed to all positions to make them comfortable quick
That’s a name I never expected to hear here manny Omoyinmi used to watch him at Oxford when I grew up used to love him I’m a West Ham and local Oxford fan brilliant throw back there didn’t realise he was a young talent at West Ham! Great watch this.
Cost us a League Cup semi final place in 99/2000 when he failed to remember (along with Harry and Frank admittedly) that he’d already played in the competition in the earlier rounds (for Southend on loan if I remember correctly) and came on in extra time against Villa at Upton Park whilst cup tied. West Ham won on pens but Villa flagged it and we offered them a replay, which we lost. Embarrassing episode all round.
Fundamentals skills are so important and i think any player that became a Pro, you need a “Super Skill”.. ie frank “Shooting and Scoring” Redknapp “ Keeping the ball and exceptional passing” its very clear from their career, they mastered a “Super Skill”…💪👍🏻 This “unappossed practice as a kid, along with mistakes then became a habit that was practiced until they became World Class through repetition of a Super Skill …
Cracking podcast. Such high quality and intelligent players in there day and it really comes across. I would say nurture has a big aspect in players. Frank became a better version of his dad he changed things but his essence is his dad. Merse's lad plays football they way merse see's football. He is a connector and protects the ball through shape passing and moving I'm sure Jamie said his son Charlie who was more a rugby player had a phenomenal passing and shooting range. If that does describe Jamie I don't know what does. Kids will absorb the details from the biggest influences around them. The rest is what they focus on I would suggest. Really enjoyed this lads. Merse love ya man along with Wrighty one of my favourite players growing up.
Great listen this is. There is one big point for us as parent's watching this for our kids, listen to the sentence franks says between 44:17 too 44:32,so simple but so true👍
The key message in here is what is the role of the parent. Most parents don’t know the game well enough and can actually get in the way of the kids success. Better for parents to be supporters than do the coaches job.
Jamie’s becoming so much like his Dad. Merson steals the show. Lampard was good at West Ham, but ultimately the Zola, Poyet culture made him evolve with diet etc, which was away from his Dad. It’s an attitude thing too on Frank, as his Dad can only push so much. The drive is from him. Otherwise, more ex players’ sons would make it as players.
interesting podcast … my 8yo son is at Chelsea Foundation after training at WMF and a pretty gifted left footed player. Having coached at grass roots for 3 years I wonder where all the talent goes in this country though . As for approach , some kids are playing for two clubs which basically means 6 days a week of football… we’ve adopted a mixed sport approach with the discipline of martial arts helping my son with football and vice versa …maybe taking Mers’s advice that if a boy is good enough they’ll get discovered , I’m really not sure .
Scanning is topical, but detailed knowledge / understanding of it as a subject is limited and difficult for many to teach. Childrens understanding of formations, tactics, technical decision making and technical experience of playing the game is so important. One of the big issues i now see, is that children do not have the patience to watch a full game to see the pictures & the game of football (therefore: Limiting experience). Social media can provide highlights, providing role models to copy is so important for a footballers development
excellent stuff. I love the passion I love the depth. As a father of an 8 year old girl who is probably the best at her age in our city (under 9's) I have this all to come. She has only been playing 8 months due to ADHD meaning she simply was not ready to understand the game until then. She is thus playing catch up but doing so at a rate. Though make no mistake her neurodiversity presents challenges. She had a natural soft first touch, calmness and movement but other technical aspects had to be reinforced keeping her standing foot forward when she passed and then finding a way to get the hips turning prior to shooting. I am mental health worker who works with young people and have ADHD myself so I have had the communication and drive to fill in these gaps with her. The professional coaching we pay for has said they have never seen player improve so quick. I do fear if I wasn't the Dad no one else may have the time and diligence to do this. I hope other families do not fall by the wayside with these extra challenges that can be presented.
There's at least 10 major take aways from this episode that I will implement straight away in my sons footballing journey. You will not find a video with so much footballing pedigree sharing their insights and wisdom for all to learn from. Thank you!
After listening to all the episode its a great intake on what it takes to become a professional footballer. The dad at the end is too strict and could be the kids downfall in years to come in regards to thinking he knows more then the coaches etc. Let the kid be a kid and put him back into school. If he has it in him he will go far if not not to worry. Feels like there's alot of unnecessary pressure on the kids shoulders. Hard work beats talent.
Love this i was the fat kid where the kit didnt fit and was rolling sub who played 5 or 10 mins here or there but life outside of football made me enjoy learning at training end up wearing the armband a few times.. now my nephew is captain of his team at 12.. everyone is unique.. # jamieredknapp😂 football is grass roots up the synners... # billingham synthonia
100% Australia is rife with the soft, strive to underachieve and condemnation of anyone who would demand more of their child. Everything is sacrificed in the name of inclusion, crushing those with potential so as not to expose the weak. The end result is a generation of weak non achievers...now they are the parents. More people in your positions need to speak up as the voice of champions to inform parents what actually is required.
With 7k subscribers, its interesting to know how you are able to get these guys on your podcast, this is the first time i have watched an episode...just interested to know this..ta
Wrong Jamie, Graeme Le Saux was absolutely not private school. I’m from Jersey, a few years younger than Graeme but one of my colleagues at British Airways played football with him. He went to Hautlieu which is not fee paying but a place where the top students from the state schools end up. So an intelligent lad but not silver spoon by any stretch of the imagination.
Max Dowman is a combo of Lampard; Ødegaard; Matthews and Charlton's power through the middle. He's superbly classy and is going to be an England great. Moore at Spurs is great though it pains me.
The parent who comes in, wow. Alarming. His kid must be a robot. I really fear for these kids, if he doesn't make it, he will be utterly depressed. His father won't even let him go to school to make friends. His whole identity is football. Truly worrying.
I bet the worst thing about being an academy coach are the parents. I never think it’s ok to shout at your children in front of everyone. It’s humiliating and you’re suppose to be the adult. I don’t think it’s the way to build resilience. Jamie says it prepares them for playing I front of big crowds…but they’re children.. those things will come (if they’re good enough). It sounds like these boys think you have to sacrifice your father, son relationship to some degree to help your son succeed as a footballer..
Many parents are quick to anger but won't put the work in to build their lads back up, then the last memory the kids have of the game is a screaming parent after getting done in.
England Whole Football Academy Has Always Grown and Evolved Which Is Our League's Future Strength. " We Are English Football ⚽️ "... As Said By Grealish ...Come On..... * Up Your Game.. 🇯🇪🇮🇪🏴🏴. .⚽️ ⚽️. ⚽️
You can see why football changed, flair and individual skill coached out of them. It’s just boring identikit footballers. Let’s Guardiola ball, no , let’s not unless we’ve got players who can do it and so few can. New style coaching is killing the game. De Bruyne is the last of the No10’s, where are all the strikers ? Just a handful of good ones in the world let alone premiership
Wow, really enjoying this one. I can’t agree with taking that boy out of school though. What about social skills with the opposite sex? Or is he expected to marry a girl who plays for the Chelsea women’s team? What if he breaks his leg tomorrow? I feel like that’s what Merson was alluding to. Quite worrying all the same.
Oh people from the land of “English “ excuse us from naming Lampard as one of the greatest midfielder.., oh shit this is why UK media kills their own … he was good but not the best
Why is it all these ex footballers sons are filling academies and getting the best opportunities. It’s not right and is a closed shop to young talent with no connections . Football will be worse for it.
Genetics probably play a big part. Even at grassroots amateur level you tend to get ‘football families’. Dads, Brothers etc all play and bring good tends to run in the family.
Amazing. I always wondered if the modern system would ever allow a Frank Lampard to get through, he is the product of hard work but was a slow player, the speed he got to was through hard work that results didnt show till much later on. they are cutting players way too quickly if they dont have speed I think this will effect any future Lampards, Fabregas even Pirlos perhaps their roles will no longer exist
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He would not have made it through the current system set up as you mentioned he didn’t have the talent to blossom
When you are that gifted, you will make it. A lot of slow players around playing CM. Have you seen Casi from man utd in a sprint. Slow as hell but 5 time CL winner.
You could be right I get from the interview he was late bloomer. From a footballing family would’ve certainly given him the edge to make it pro
Lampard wasnt slow. I wont say he was rapid, but he had average speed. Also the comparison to Fabregas is completely off. Lampard as a young kid played the box to box role with 100% effort both ways. That was why he was so highly rated because his attitude was spot on.
It wasnt until he became the main man at Chelsea that he was relieved of some of his defensive duties.
After 25 years of Coaching, i coached both my Sons. It was the hardest thing i did in Coaching. At about the age of 10-12 years you must let them go, and have dif experiences and become a parent. (You can still offer advice, but calmly and timing is critical). Be calm before and after games, but learn to be a parent, it takes completely different skills. Your child needs and normally will develop independent personality at about 9-12 years and if you do not disconnect your relationship will suffer. Become the parent (or Guardian) and support, help and encourage your child to be their best.
Interesting points. I absolutely agree thanks for sharing. Something I have noted 👍
Thanks for this
Easier said than done, you still have to coach your son and be honest. I coach both my older lads (8 & 11) and the key is not to dwell on it on the car journey home or at home. Keep it in the session. I learnt my lesson about this early on after clocking myself banging on about how my son 'could have done this or that' and seeing them just sat there not saying much.
And I had this moment of clarity where I thought 'If I was him, would I want to really hear what I could have done better, what I did well'. The match is gone, forget about it unless they want to talk about it. And its what I do now, I don't say anything unless they ask me. 'How do you think I did Dad?'
I keep it short, sweet and remove anything too negative. I might add a couple of 'maybe this' and that's it.
might of been a project with a little less technical ability than others, but became one of the greatest midfielders ever with an absolute natural talent! not many footballers can teach themselves to be a genius technical player from practice alone!
Merse gets straight to the point I love it
He talks absolute shite. Never says anything remotely intelligent or accurate.
The key message in here is what is the role of the parent. Most parents don’t know the game well enough and can actually get in the way of the kids success. Better for parents to be supporters than do the coaches job.
As a coach one of the biggest problems is parents trying to be a sideline coach and constantly shouting very obvious instructions rather than letting their kids make their own decisions.
@@84tigershark How do you manage this problem?
Great episode!
Everyone talks about his Dad pushing him but from this I got that Frank was so dedicated from a young age to improve and was consistent into his pro years
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Parents; Between the age of 5-12 years, i think all children occasionally need a push and encouragement to be told they need to do something if they have made a commitment to a club or team(exceptions are Sickness and injury). But, it is so important to play sports that children enjoy and to build good habits not just for sports, but lessons for life…
Merc, i agree about Joe Cole. I watched him a few times when he was young and was amazed he was not schooled as an England Centre midfielder. This is in stark contrast to Barcelona and Spain nursing and schooling Andres Aniesta for Spain and Barcelona.m to become a World Class Midfielder. It is noted in his Biography that he was not immediately a CM and struggled, he had to learn and develop positional specific skills to play CM
Mers forgetting he got skills. Passing creates the best skill players if they are told to use the ball when they have space. Lamps the greatest ever. Continued to grow over his career great Chelsea player
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Jamie makes an amazing point at 1h11mins. Such a fine line of knowing how much to push them and how much to let them want to do it themselves. This has been amazing so far, looking forward to watching the rest tomorrow 🙌
Great show. Please can you guys do an episode about Joe Cole. I love to hear stories from pro's about his next level talent. Stories about the stuff he'd do in training as a junior etc. And of course the amazing career he enjoyed. And perhaps, how we as a nation historically fail to build teams around our great talents
Jamie said he will ask him ❤
Really enjoyed the open conversation of the topic interwoven alongside Frank Lampard's journey. As many times as they reference parents watching for their own kids, it should be prefaced that early specialization also has its negative aspects. The Tiger Woods story tends to get celebrated as an example but genetics and early exposure to the sport play a far greater role in his development than often is implied. There are far more stories of late specialization (Federer, Nadal, Roy Keane, Neville brothers, most NFL players (88%) all played multiple sports in their youth before specializing in their sport) than early specialization athletes. As parents and coaches, encouraging early exposure to a sport and late specialization (different for each person but generally 14-18 years of age) is statically shown to give a greater chance of reaching elite levels (and have the genetics). Fostering an enjoyment of the sport is the foundation for the passion to be the best at it. great podcasts. keep of the good work.
I found this interesting and alot of focus on pressure from dad's for their sons to make it in professional football.
Obviously too much pressure is not good but we all owe it to our kids to give them that drive and desire to improve and give it your all. Whether they'll be professional footballers or not. Just because you're never making it you still have to go out and give it your all.
Was funny around @29:00 when Jamie tries to play down any talk of nepotism and Frank basically says he probably wouldn’t have made it had his dad not been a pushy ex footballer. Of course frank ended up an amazing player, but a lot of us who went through academy systems know a lot of people with amazing potential who didn’t get picked up because they didn’t impress on first impression or didn’t have anyone fighting in their corner behind closed doors
Frank is honest. But he was world-class.
New listener here (US). Love hearing about how football is experienced in England. Amazing episode. We are in the rat race of American club soccer and the discussion around pulling your kid out of academy and into recreational/grassroots soccer hit home. It’s easy to forget that the #1 goal should be for the child to love the game, instead of chasing Instagram moments. Would love more episodes like these!
Isn't the system in the US much different to the UK and Europe? I played at school with a player who went on to play for England at the World Cup and in the Premier League and Champions League. He was at his club academy from at least 12-13 (maybe younger). I only knew him from secondary/high school and I'm sure he was at his club academy from the time of first year of secondary school (which is 11-12 y/o in England). He still had to take school seriously at the time, but I've heard now clubs in England have a school on-site for players so they get some schooling and train at the club from a young age
I thought the US was more based on getting to college/university and then they get drafted so I'm assuming it's mainly high-school sports teams, then college and then they get to a club team. Not sure if that's the case or not, bit I thought that was how it worked? I also think I heard from someone that in the US kids have to pay to play (which we have something called "subs" in the UK that kids have to pay each month, but when I was playing it was a pretty small amount of £1-2 a week. If a kid was poor or the family had financial troubles then someone at the club would probably pay for them or let them off paying.
Just seems from what I heard the US system is very different and probably makes it harder for talented youngsters to make it as a lot of the development at a young age isn't being trained by local clubs. I'm sure it works well for all the major US sports as there's a big history of players making it. Apologies for the long comment, but I'm interested in if the US system has changed or is so different to Europe. Maybe that's why some of the better younger players in the US like Reyna go abroad so early to get that development under their belts at a younger age than other kids
@@mauddib1761 generally yes, in the US the pro athlete pipeline involves playing for a university and then being drafted into an American professional league (MLS/NBA/NFL/etc.). The difference here for soccer is that soccer is the only sport that the rest of the world also plays, and children across the world play it much, much more frequently than the average American child does, and as such there is no way to be competitive without going to Europe. As you said, most notable American players found a way to learn to play in Europe, where they can lean on being surrounded by players more talented than they are.
The American club soccer system does not produce good soccer players - it produces money for clubs and organizations that organize tournaments. It is expensive ($2000-$10000 USD a year on average, with almost no financial assistance for families without the means to pay), time-consuming (2-3 practices a week, 1-2 games per weekend, and several entire weekends per year dedicated to traveling to and playing in tournaments) and can be spiritually draining - coaches, teams and clubs are singularly concerned with winning games and tournaments, even at the youngest ages, leaving no room for creativity, growth and especially fun.
We do have a rec/grassroots program (AYSO) but the quality is so poor, kids with any talent don't enjoy it because their teams are composed of kids who've never touched a ball or spend almost no time between seasons playing the sport; it is so unsophisticated that it drives away kids that want to play the sport. My youngest (8) left club to go back to AYSO and he complained his teammates couldn't dribble or pass the ball, and is now asking to go back to club, despite how much he disliked all the traveling. We also have no "casual soccer" environment the way most European and South American countries have; hence the lack of even basic skills in AYSO. American kids don't get out and meet their friends to play, and even if they do we don't have many freely-accessible soccer fields (we do have plenty of baseball diamonds, basketball courts, and tennis courts).
So most parents wind up biting the bullet and enrolling their kids in club soccer, which is precisely the position I find myself in, and why I've capitulated to the club soccer environment. I have no aspirations to have my kids become professional players but I also don't want them glued to the couch after school, so here we are. If either of my kids ever says they want to go pro and are serious about it, I'd figure out a way to have them train in Europe.
system? they can trial you in any us club no matter who you are or came from
that method of building plyer is standard tjroughout thw world and we (rest of the world) are imitating tht of the us you just deacribed, creativity is no longer an issue, for that i see americn football catching up very soon, thats what theyre doing at this moment, its all about physical stats and tactics around that physycal dominamce of the whole tem ( no individual positions nymore) and particularly tose are mericans best strenghs and also the easiest to catch up to so, see you soon you maybe lifting something
Pretty sure the USA are far behind in football
Just caught this and thoroughly enjoyed the insights and advice provided by all, including from my all-time favourite - Frank. As a coach for a young team, there were some great perspectives shared here that will help guide my coaching journey. Keep up the top work.
Stunning ! Love you Super Frank. Here’s a thing … can we all agree it’s okay to not be a great footballer and as a kid being a part of team is worth its weight in gold ❤
Wow, what an episode, please do more of these with Premier League footballers and having more than 1 of them on the podcast is such a good idea. 150k views is all you need to know, can't wait for the next one
Great interview good to see you Sean after so many years…. Remember when you scouted Nath MW all those years ago….lovely memories I often reminisce on those good old days
Amazing episode 🎉 great value and packed with lots of golden nuggets
Great episode. Frank is very articulate and Jamie also helps to tease things out and get the full background
Thank you. So glad you enjoyed it. ❤
Just finished watching. Amazing.
Thanks for the colab. And yes please part 3 with K. My boy Nathan adores him a lot. We would be looking forward to it.
Thanks so much for the good work. One day you will have Nathan in when it's time. For now we keep working. ❤
So happy you enjoyed it. And hope Nathan keeps progressing
@@ProjectFootballer yes for sure 💪🏾
Great episode and very interesting! The only thing I would have for Perry is what happens if he doesn’t make it at football? Not saying he isn’t good enough but injury or anything could happen down the road. What is the plan then?
Fantastic pod.. Fascinating insightful journey. Its interesting that Dads (Merce) thinks their Son needs to play “Position Specific”, but his Coach Plays him in Different positions (Different positions offer experiences and knowledge of the game.. )ie even strikers now need to learn how to defend /Defend space).. All about experience & development of a player/Child. For 30 years i have rotated positions to develop the player
Minute 1:12 = i love this moment which just highlight’s the conundrum between the professional (Jamie & his Son) and the father(parent ) relationship and the “Patience /Care & Love” it takes to bring up and develop a child who is potentially going to be a professional athlete. Sometimes, its just it just a bad day(this is children and parenting) but re-enforcing the important habits needed for a high performing athlete is so important for their mental and physical development and a credit to them as a family.
Interesting Merson doesn't agree that a 8-9 shouldnt learn to play other positions. I always thought it's good for a players to be exposed to all positions to make them comfortable quick
What a watch and a great insight for a dad who coaches his sons team!! Some great points 👏🏻
Very enjoyable conversation.. Frank being frank essentially… brilliant
Fantastic episode. Really interesting to hear all of them talk about the formative years & youth football.
Brilliant interview… enjoyed learning about Lampard’s growth as a footballer💪🏼🔥
Love that RAF. Thanks for watching
That’s a name I never expected to hear here manny Omoyinmi used to watch him at Oxford when I grew up used to love him I’m a West Ham and local Oxford fan brilliant throw back there didn’t realise he was a young talent at West Ham! Great watch this.
Cost us a League Cup semi final place in 99/2000 when he failed to remember (along with Harry and Frank admittedly) that he’d already played in the competition in the earlier rounds (for Southend on loan if I remember correctly) and came on in extra time against Villa at Upton Park whilst cup tied. West Ham won on pens but Villa flagged it and we offered them a replay, which we lost. Embarrassing episode all round.
Fundamentals skills are so important and i think any player that became a Pro, you need a “Super Skill”.. ie frank “Shooting and Scoring” Redknapp “ Keeping the ball and exceptional passing” its very clear from their career, they mastered a “Super Skill”…💪👍🏻 This “unappossed practice as a kid, along with mistakes then became a habit that was practiced until they became World Class through repetition of a Super Skill …
Cracking podcast. Such high quality and intelligent players in there day and it really comes across.
I would say nurture has a big aspect in players. Frank became a better version of his dad he changed things but his essence is his dad.
Merse's lad plays football they way merse see's football. He is a connector and protects the ball through shape passing and moving
I'm sure Jamie said his son Charlie who was more a rugby player had a phenomenal passing and shooting range. If that does describe Jamie I don't know what does.
Kids will absorb the details from the biggest influences around them. The rest is what they focus on I would suggest.
Really enjoyed this lads. Merse love ya man along with Wrighty one of my favourite players growing up.
Jamie Redknapp is a talented host. Class act
Agree. ❤
Thank you for supporting
Great listen this is. There is one big point for us as parent's watching this for our kids, listen to the sentence franks says between 44:17 too 44:32,so simple but so true👍
The key message in here is what is the role of the parent. Most parents don’t know the game well enough and can actually get in the way of the kids success. Better for parents to be supporters than do the coaches job.
Jamie’s becoming so much like his Dad. Merson steals the show. Lampard was good at West Ham, but ultimately the Zola, Poyet culture made him evolve with diet etc, which was away from his Dad. It’s an attitude thing too on Frank, as his Dad can only push so much. The drive is from him. Otherwise, more ex players’ sons would make it as players.
Merson never says anything remotely intelligent
interesting podcast … my 8yo son is at Chelsea Foundation after training at WMF and a pretty gifted left footed player. Having coached at grass roots for 3 years I wonder where all the talent goes in this country though . As for approach , some kids are playing for two clubs which basically means 6 days a week of football… we’ve adopted a mixed sport approach with the discipline of martial arts helping my son with football and vice versa …maybe taking Mers’s advice that if a boy is good enough they’ll get discovered , I’m really not sure .
Mers does come out with some waffle at times 😂
CONSTANTLY
Seriously talks some shite 😩😂
Get Dennis Wise on! I’m sure he has a very similar story to these guys 👍🏼
Okay. I’ll ask him.
That’s a reason not to get him on lol
So don't get him on then 😂
No, get him on. He has a unique angle on this.
Scanning is topical, but detailed knowledge / understanding of it as a subject is limited and difficult for many to teach. Childrens understanding of formations, tactics, technical decision making and technical experience of playing the game is so important. One of the big issues i now see, is that children do not have the patience to watch a full game to see the pictures & the game of football (therefore: Limiting experience). Social media can provide highlights, providing role models to copy is so important for a footballers development
The best football podcast I actually listen to start to finish love it guys ❤ keep the content coming 👍⚽️💯
Really interesting probably best one so far
Thank you mate ❤
Brilliant episode
Loves these lot franks one of my hero’s
Great interviews and content. Inspiring me as a coach and Dad. It's not hard work if you enjoy it!
❤❤❤❤
excellent stuff. I love the passion I love the depth. As a father of an 8 year old girl who is probably the best at her age in our city (under 9's) I have this all to come. She has only been playing 8 months due to ADHD meaning she simply was not ready to understand the game until then. She is thus playing catch up but doing so at a rate. Though make no mistake her neurodiversity presents challenges. She had a natural soft first touch, calmness and movement but other technical aspects had to be reinforced keeping her standing foot forward when she passed and then finding a way to get the hips turning prior to shooting. I am mental health worker who works with young people and have ADHD myself so I have had the communication and drive to fill in these gaps with her. The professional coaching we pay for has said they have never seen player improve so quick. I do fear if I wasn't the Dad no one else may have the time and diligence to do this. I hope other families do not fall by the wayside with these extra challenges that can be presented.
There's at least 10 major take aways from this episode that I will implement straight away in my sons footballing journey. You will not find a video with so much footballing pedigree sharing their insights and wisdom for all to learn from. Thank you!
Podcast is brilliant
Thank you so much
After listening to all the episode its a great intake on what it takes to become a professional footballer. The dad at the end is too strict and could be the kids downfall in years to come in regards to thinking he knows more then the coaches etc. Let the kid be a kid and put him back into school. If he has it in him he will go far if not not to worry. Feels like there's alot of unnecessary pressure on the kids shoulders. Hard work beats talent.
That was tremendous guys YNWA 👌
Max Dowman was playing for Arsenal u18s at the age of 13!!!! He’s ridiculous!!! He’s 14 now and starting for u18s.
Brilliant
Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Love this i was the fat kid where the kit didnt fit and was rolling sub who played 5 or 10 mins here or there but life outside of football made me enjoy learning at training end up wearing the armband a few times.. now my nephew is captain of his team at 12.. everyone is unique.. # jamieredknapp😂 football is grass roots up the synners... # billingham synthonia
Wow this is good stuff!
Thank you so much
To the presenter that keeps trying to butt in let them speak your in the room with 3 legends of the game. Your question can wait!!
I’m sorry man. I will work on this. Thank you for your feedback 🙏🤝
@ProjectFootballer its not good enough it must change you where putting your hand up like a kid in school in some parts. Ruined the interview.
Jamie is gold on this podcast lads
☺️☺️☺️ we are lucky to have him
You have to work hard
That was fantastic to listen to
Bellingham scored 20 goals from midfield and won La Liga
Great listen! Get Ray Parlour on the pod:D
Haha okay, will ask him. 👍
Ian Wright might be good, as he has had 2 sons and a granddaughter go through this
Well done
this is awesome content thank you
Great podcast
100% Australia is rife with the soft, strive to underachieve and condemnation of anyone who would demand more of their child. Everything is sacrificed in the name of inclusion, crushing those with potential so as not to expose the weak. The end result is a generation of weak non achievers...now they are the parents. More people in your positions need to speak up as the voice of champions to inform parents what actually is required.
With 7k subscribers, its interesting to know how you are able to get these guys on your podcast, this is the first time i have watched an episode...just interested to know this..ta
Haha it’s a good point. We are underrated!
The subscribers will come. We need to do better with our marketing!
I remember my son leaving he didn't even know so he never said bye
Wrong Jamie, Graeme Le Saux was absolutely not private school. I’m from Jersey, a few years younger than Graeme but one of my colleagues at British Airways played football with him. He went to Hautlieu which is not fee paying but a place where the top students from the state schools end up. So an intelligent lad but not silver spoon by any stretch of the imagination.
Max Dowman is a combo of Lampard; Ødegaard; Matthews and Charlton's power through the middle. He's superbly classy and is going to be an England great. Moore at Spurs is great though it pains me.
The parent who comes in, wow. Alarming.
His kid must be a robot. I really fear for these kids, if he doesn't make it, he will be utterly depressed. His father won't even let him go to school to make friends. His whole identity is football. Truly worrying.
His inner voice was standing beside him and have the same name as his.
Carlton Palmer... He's such a funny guy
There’s a few players at Sutton United as well that are top players ⚽️
Read "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell.
I bet the worst thing about being an academy coach are the parents. I never think it’s ok to shout at your children in front of everyone. It’s humiliating and you’re suppose to be the adult. I don’t think it’s the way to build resilience. Jamie says it prepares them for playing I front of big crowds…but they’re children.. those things will come (if they’re good enough). It sounds like these boys think you have to sacrifice your father, son relationship to some degree to help your son succeed as a footballer..
Many parents are quick to anger but won't put the work in to build their lads back up, then the last memory the kids have of the game is a screaming parent after getting done in.
England Whole Football Academy Has Always Grown and Evolved Which Is Our League's Future Strength.
" We Are English Football ⚽️ "...
As Said By Grealish
...Come On.....
* Up Your Game..
🇯🇪🇮🇪🏴🏴.
.⚽️ ⚽️. ⚽️
Hey brother. I live in the United States & I wanted to take my son to a really good camp in England in the summer. Do you recommend any??? He is U9
Come to we make footballers ! It’s our company
Merse saying you need 4 coaches for 16. I coach 13 lads mainly on my own ha! Its Grassroots, but 2 which is 8 players per coach is fine I think
Top episode
Thank you so much ❤
Thank you so much ❤
Have you guys looked into getting Tom Byer on the podcast?
Not yet. Do you know him ?
I know Tom Byer and can make an intro :) he will be brilliant to feature on the podcast 🙏
@@ProjectFootballerI do
Yip, must of us are all.
You can see why football changed, flair and individual skill coached out of them.
It’s just boring identikit footballers.
Let’s Guardiola ball, no , let’s not unless we’ve got players who can do it and so few can.
New style coaching is killing the game.
De Bruyne is the last of the No10’s, where are all the strikers ? Just a handful of good ones in the world let alone premiership
Wow, really enjoying this one. I can’t agree with taking that boy out of school though.
What about social skills with the opposite sex? Or is he expected to marry a girl who plays for the Chelsea women’s team? What if he breaks his leg tomorrow?
I feel like that’s what Merson was alluding to. Quite worrying all the same.
Oi music's a bit overdramatic
Merse really knows his stuff!
Ummm no
no he doesn't
So why when so many footballers kids get placements into these academies do so little make the pro game? It’s nepotism not DNA?
"fink".. "furs day"
Oh people from the land of “English “ excuse us from naming Lampard as one of the greatest midfielder.., oh shit this is why UK media kills their own … he was good but not the best
Chelsea are my club forget fact you're dad uncle westham
Merse didnt mention his gambling 😮
Please, if you can, add subtittle on serbian or any other balkan language
Why is it all these ex footballers sons are filling academies and getting the best opportunities. It’s not right and is a closed shop to young talent with no connections . Football will be worse for it.
Genetics probably play a big part. Even at grassroots amateur level you tend to get ‘football families’. Dads, Brothers etc all play and bring good tends to run in the family.
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Dembele at Tottenham is a prime example of talent v hardworking. The guy is super talented but super lazy!
Was he lazy?? He's one of the greatest players I've seen.
Ok yea moved on Chelsea get that but don't forget yourself your not Chelsea joe cole when Chelsea aswell he didn't forget himself
Yeah it’s called being the Son 😂
Mers is a contradicting mess. Can tell none of them agree with a word he’s saying.
Tbh mate, I would have looked world beater if I had MAKELELE, Ballack, Essien, Drogba, Crespo and Shevshenko along side me🤣🤣
Good point. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔