There are sure to be others to boycott it on their behalf too. I don't know anything about Wicked, but I'd heard about it, and was planning on seeing the movie at some point. Not any more.
Exactly. It's the most horrible reaction to fan love I've ever heard of. Not even to mention that it's a lot more appealing than the original poster - and not because the eyes are missing but due to the overall lighting and colouring etc.
"Hey! You know how iconic the Broadway poster is for Wicked? We should recreate that for the film!" "I have never been more insulted in my life." What the hell?
She should have researched the posters and art before she opened her stupid mouth. If people decide that they don't like the actor, the movie will surely fail.
MY face! MY eyes! MY poster! MY movie! MY performance! But when the movie fails, suddenly my/me gets thrown out the window instead replaced with "YOU are the reason the movie failed! It's YOUR fault". The levels of narcissism are off the charts!
Indeed. These folks have no foresight and logic is no where to be found. I mean, you have to have lack intelligence to put a ring through your nose like cattle.
Hugo is a professional. and has class. 2 huge differences here.
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LOL I never knew that was him I just got btfo. To be fair the mask is better then me wondering how Agent Smith/Elrond got isekaied here. @Leahcanton Damn I should have gone as him for halloween there are literally infinite good costume ideas.
What's weird is that this behavior has been going on for a decade now, at the very least, and it almost always ends the same way. "Don't like it, don't watch it, this wasn't made for you!" Aaaaaand then it bombs and many careers are ruined or bruised. And yet it's like no one learns from it. These people are out of touch, for sure.
@@chance_ondriezek99 someone needs to tell her that she’s supposed to be acting her character, NOT BECOMING HER. She’s 🎵 starting to have delusions of grandeur🎵
I would disagree. For me, she has an expression of boldness and pride, even narcissism. When her comment was shown, I was amazed, how well it fits the face expression. It looks like the original idea was to recreate the poster, but she made the studio do it as she wanted. That would explain the degree of her butthurt.
Elvis Presley did it best when he would say, “I’m just an entertainer so I’ll keep my opinions to myself” He didn’t pretend to know everything and didn’t feel the need to tell people what to think.
I saw that interview. The journalist was trying to bait him into saying something controversial and he didn't take it. It's on youtube if you can find it. It's a press conference.
Her nose ring was a dead giveaway to her disgusting activist mindset. I instantly knew she was gonna react like a moron way before I got to that part in the video.
This is most younger actors. I've even seen video game voice actors claiming that the character they play is them and if you insult the character they claim you are insulting them (see FFXIV's "Wuk Lamat").
One of the problems i think is that media paints with a wide brush everyone who has any discourse as a fan. If i hate a show I'm still a "fan". Much the same thing for all the armchair warriors who want DEI in everything even if they know nothing about the IP. They are also called fans when they aren't at all
As an illustrator, I sympathize deeply with the artist who made the fan-art in the first place. They spent some time and effort into showing their passion for the original show and excitement for the coming movie, only to get shat on all over by the star of the project. Heartbreaking.
@@KingKam93 it wasn't very good but it's not the point, fans that draw like toddlers and still make fanarts are not to be shat on by the star. It's not about artistic quality, it's abiut disrespect and entitlement
I mean, if I was really nitpick, I’d say that the artist should’ve used a more different color of red lipstick for her mouth, but other than that, I don’t see any problem.
_My face! My eyes! My Poster! My movie!_ Cool. In that case, YOU go ahead and buy a few hundred thousand tickets to make YOUR movie profitable at the box office. You don't need us.
This woman will simultaneously claim to be a victim, marginalized by her skin color, gender, and sexuality - while at the same time saying an edited MOVIE POSTER for a film she will get paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR is the most offensive thing she has ever seen - while the rest of the world struggles to buy groceries. What an absolute doughnut.
"To edit my face and hide my eyes is to erase me" If you're doing your freaking job as an actress NOBODY should see you on screen. They should see whatever *character* you're playing. That's what the best actors and actresses do. If you wanted to be a cult of personality you should have pursued a music career like your co-star.
I can’t even see her as the character. She’s just the green version of herself. She’s not a very good actress. Take away the voice and you have nothing
Just get over how there are actually people on there defending her saying she’s been attacked ever since she was announced to be part of the movie. No, no one has a word about her until she threw her little tantrum.
@@biancaenera2500 freaks me out if she truly believes that she owns this character no, you don’t sweetheart no, you don’t and I mean she really does seem to think that we’re going to see her and not a character. It’s insane.
I used to work pretty regularly in the film business and people were under the illusion that it must be exciting to meet and be around actors. No. Most of them are narcissistic, empty assholes. You wouldn't want to hang out with these people and they would annoy the shit outta you if you did. Cool and normal is the exception.
It's definitely feels like an ego thing, like how large you name is on the marquee/credits, or whose name is listed first. Maybe it was important to her to see her own face front and center in a starring role, which would explain why she took it so personal. They shouldn't have tried to mimic the theatrical poster then.
I feel most sorry for the fan. Imagine getting blasted online by something you love. That's cruel (or I guess you could say, wicked). The fan poster was better btw.
How many WICKEDLY talented actresses would’ve killed to be in something as iconic as this and they were passed over for this narcissistic diversity hire?
Of course her version was better. It was closer to the original, which was very well thought out, as opposed to the Disney poster, where the actress insisted on her face being plastered everywhere because she’s such a big deal, or something.
@@Coffin1987 youd think in the age of bottle of the barrel, remake movies being churned out with zero creativity and originality that their Egos woukd be a bit smaller!!
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is immediately accounted wise: but the setting forth of lips become a rod of folly. Proverbs 17:28, Douay Rhiems Translation. People have known of this fact since before Christ was born and it seems like a lot of people who really should know that considering their platform have forgotten such wisdom.
The 2003 Broadway poster was also designed so that it wouldn't have to redo the artwork everytime the cast changed -- that's part of why parts of the faces are obscured. It's not a value judgment or throwing shade or anything, it's just a great way to have an evergreen poster...and the fan edit was just an homage to that poster! Edit: wanted to add that the Broadway poster is from the early 2000s! As a theatre kid of the time, I remember we were all OBSESSED with that cast album!
At first I thought maybe it was because they edited her features to change things they didn't like about her face... but the only change I saw was they removed the freckles... and if she really has freckles as an actress and someone is removing parts of you to improve you... I could see how it would offend, but it didn't look like she really has freckles in real life, so those are part of the character not her. They didn't change the size of her nose or lips, or face shape, jaw line, nothing that would seem offensive to me. They just tinted her lips red and turned them into a smirk. I think the reaction was over the top... just like this entire video was a ridiculous response to a response. She could have said nothing... just like the Drinker could have... but obviously something about it offended him.
@@jaminv2889Oh maybe Drinker is tired of arrogant actors who have to make everything (even inconsequential things) about them? You have to admit playing the victim when an actor gets a big time roll is tedious as hell.🙄
That fan edit poster looked so legit that I had no idea what the hell this was all about until you started explaining that it wasn't actually an alternative version of the poster.
c'mon thats a low blow, reminding us we're never gonna have a sequel to the best movie adaptation of Dredd, great, now I need to watch it again for the, I dunno, tenth or eleventh time? not gonna complain, i'd rather watch the same great movies/series dozens of times in my life than watch newer crap that I know for a fact i'll hate
I'm reminded of how for The Mandalorean the actors had to keep helmets on. ANd it's one of the best regarded Star Wars thing of the Disney era. Not a high bar to climb, but certainly a point to it.
Or Hugo Weaving in V For Vendetta. Had his face covered the entire movie and did an excellent job. Or what about Heath Ledger as the Joker? The makeup and prosthetics he wore throughout the entire movie completely altered the actor’s appearance, yet we all know how legendary that performance is.
Historically court jester is a prestigious position. Those were more like diplomat comedians. I wouldnt put actors near them. They are more like just regular jester.
No one is talking about how insane the first sentence of her statement is "This is the wildest, most offensive thing I've seen" ??? as a black woman in Hollywood, the most offensive thing she's seen is a fan edit covering her eyes in shadow???
I think it's because she's associating the wicked witch as being black because OF COURSE the witch was only ever in her position because of the color of her skin. So she assumes the edit was done because the person hated black people because the actress views everything in allegory.
Makes perfect sense, that a Narcissist is more "Offended" by ANYTHING affecting them, than ANYTHING else they've seen. Hopefully she'll see some truly "Offensive" things directed personally at her, and they will recalibrate her scales.
How this glaringly compares to the tick tock user who joyfully rolled along on his skateboard singing to DREAMS by Fleetwood Mac. The ban all came out in magnanimous support, they met him, Stevie sang with him...such a stark contrast
As an actor, the most important things to remember are that you are: 1) ..Saying words other people wrote 2) ..Wearing outfits other people designed and made 3) ..Walking in a world other people created Realize that you are the interpreter of these things. A big piece in the machine that breathes life to the story. Be professional.. and whatever you do, don't start slinging mud with strangers over the internet. They are professionals at it. You are not prepared.
She's pissed because she pushed for the movie poster design, and the social media reaction confirmed that she was wrong and she can't handle the truth.
Exactly this. "*I* chose to look down the barrel of the camera." I've never seen an actor/actress so self-centered it's almost as if they forget they're playing a character. I can assure you that if the actor who plays Freddy Krueger pushed to appear as himself instead of his usual charred skin costume, it would also not be received well.
@@eleanorigby5881 There is no way it wasn't her idea. The only thing that poster showcases is the actress playing Elphaba. It does not say anything at all about the movie and the other actress has her face obscured by her hands.
Ngl I like the fan edit version better and think it is far more usable than the one Universal picked. It adds mystery and is a sweet homage to when the musical first hit the stage and became a global success. Reminds me of a happy memory when I saw it two days before my ninth birthday, original cast save Joel Grey (an understudy was in his place). I saw Idina and Kristin live...and it was amazing! The poor fan was probably super embarrassed after all that hard work and...yeah super entitled and bratty way to receive fan art from someone.
My wife doesn’t follow any of this stuff but was excited for the movie since she loved the play and the book. Asked her if she had heard about the drama (she hadn’t) then showed her the actress’s reaction to the poster and she just said, “ugh, guess I’m not gonna see it, I’m tired of people like that”. I’m sure she isn’t alone in getting turned off of a movie so easily.
"im tired of people like that" indeed. I dont spend my money a lot of places now because of that. Not sure who these assholes think they are, but they arn't to me. These people can take their entitlement and shove it.
I was considering watching the movie in theaters, I really wanted to support the movie! The musical is very important to me and I just wanted to see it succeed as a movie. I don't find the motivation within me anymore, though that might change in the future
So perfectly worded. Hollywood should really listen to you and rethink how they look at their own careers. And, on top of everything, they are not even 1/1000 of the stars of classic cinema. Again, a perfect analysis of the story. Bravo!
@@mrsx7944 Maybe they were expecting an "atack" from "toxic fans" so they could say the movie bombed because of it. But they didnt get anything, so now gota create it.
Yes. However I think the modern movie poster is that way for a reason. It's putting it right in your face that the witch is played by a black actress. You couldn't do that with the same impact if half her face was covered.
They are ruled by idiotic nepo babies, whose main job is to find and appropriate anything even remotely exciting and talented. Then it is just a soulless mimicry of the original with the massive tinge of nepo babies ego boost.
Yes I'm sure that you, some guy who comments on culture war film critic TH-cam videos, understands the Broadway musical Wicked more than the Tony award winning, Oscar nominated professional actress who spent over a year shooting 2 films adapting said musical. You're definitely the expert here, not her. I would honestly love to know if you have read or listened to any other comment she's previously made about the show, the film or the character, or if you just watched this one video and think you now know enough about her to claim that she doesn't understand the story. I'm going to assume it's the latter.
@@olgil And when the ticket sales come back as bad as your argument, it's going to be that the fans don't understand the story. The best show when these creative abominations happen is the gaggle of appeals to authority and meritocracy arguments that start coming out amongst those who swear they don't believe in it. And in defense of *celebrities* at that-- the most over-paid, out-of-touch, and vapid gaggle of Plastic People our society has to offer. But when it's not a conversation about eating the rich, suddenly celebrities are enlightened creatives with a superior knowledge and deserved authority above us normal viewing plebs who have no room to speak on endeavors so far beyond our understanding. Please, never change.
@@olgil Are you saying her reaction wasn't absurd? Moreover, the fact that she didn't have a clue what to do with her expression suggests that she _didn't_ understand the undertaking. The prestige of the stage play has emphatically nothing to do with our perception of an unrelated actress in a new version. Although I have nothing to say about the stage show, I would imagine that Tonys carry no more cachet than current Oscars, which is to say asymptotic to none, hence the huge decline in interest in the entire self-congratulatory awards pantheon.
@@olgil Considering most actors/actresses don't even know the characters they are portraying (or even the story behind it) when they get the job (looking at Agatha All Along..), you're 'ass-uming' a lot.. The edited picture makes her look BETTER, not worse. It's also fan art, so I don't get what the problem is. Having a tizzy because good fan art went viral is just plain silly. It's not like it's going to be what is on the promo for the actual show. Even if it is, it's better, so what's the problem? The 'erase her' by editing her argument is silly because she's already 'edited' for the show; she's GREEN. She has contacts hiding the true color of her eyes. HOW IS SHE ERASED? And how the heck is it worse?
@@olgil Literally Drinker covers all your BS in the video you obviously didn't watch or you wouldn't have made such a stupid comment wasting your and everyone else's time. LOL "I'm going to assume" he says smfh, yeah dude we know you are, we've been doing this with you weird cult idealogues for over a decade now and it's all you ever do. Get rekt.
Exactly, I bet the hissy fit she threw was imense. Probably got her agent involved and everything and then some fan recreates exactly what they did and she loses her shit.
“We communicate with our eyes” Lady the whole point of the original poster was to sever that communication so you as the viewer dont know what the witch is thinking
There is a line that separates fans who appreciates art, thespians and the art of subtlety, and the mass media of movies and videos, and this line is clearer with her reaction.
Articles defending Cynthia completely ignore that Ariana's hand was moved upward, covering most of her face, because you know they want to spin it as a race issue and antagonize the fans.
Yeah, she doesn't even look like Ariana Grande in that poster, and I think that's an improvement (not because I hate her or anything, just because it makes it more mysterious, like the poster they're trying to emulate)
Ariana also commented on the poster edit at some red carpet 2 days ago and basically said it’s not that deep. It seems Cynthia is just suffering a main character meltdown or something…
@@DiosaDelOscuraAriana’s comments about the whole incident were very diplomatic, very graceful, she basically managed to show understanding for both the fan and her co-actress, while downplaying the whole affair. Maybe some other people could try to learn from her.
All the fan did was make the modern poster into a homage of the OG poster. That's all. I'm not a big fan of Wicked. I'm pretty apathetic about it. But even I knew that poster. They weren't trying to cover what's her name up. They just wanted to make a better poster. The modern poster doesn't even compare to the OG one.
This made her look ignorant of the property she was starring in and the difference between actor and character in a way that made Dan Quayle's Murphy Brown critique seem wise and well-informed in comparison.
The original movie poster is awful, and nobody is trying to erase it - just make something not unpleasant to the eyes. The green cakey lipstick is /yuck.
Have you had a chance to read the book? I absolutely loved it! I haven't seen the play. In the original story, there is definitely no room for musical numbers. ❤
This is one of the best analysis I have seen. This actress only cares about her showing her entire face on the poster because it’s ONLY ABOUT HER. Her blank stare says nothing other than deer in headlights… zero emotion. The simple movie poster conveys so much more emotion and depth than her eyes looking straight down the camera. How sad is that…
Actors take part of their pay in the size of their face on the posters. Look at any modern (i.e., Star Wars or later) movie poster, and it's 90% pictures of the actors' faces with some relevant scene from the movie in the background. Had her face been hidden, they'd have to pay her more.
It's a bad poster design, and the change of lipstick from red to green makes the character look relatively plain and boring compared to the stage play character. Contrast makes things look more visually interesting - I get a funny impression that the lack of red lipstick was actually down to the actress putting her foot down.
@@gagalover2k10 I'm not judging any artistry involved. I'm simply opining why the actress might be upset by her face being covered on a promotional poster, and/or why they didn't stick with the Broadway version.
So nice I can watch 10 minutes of Drinker to save me hours to go to a movie theater, so much time to use on worthwhile things, thank you Drinker for making life better.
It looked like a crap fest movie even before she opened her piehole, not to mention that awful septum piercing. They're always rrreeing. You also save loads of money, not just time.
I was interested in the movie because I didn't feel like investing the time and money to see the show. Now I don't want to watch the movie either. 😒 Maybe I will dig up videos of the show to see what I missed... or walk my dog instead.
Drinker has been saving me thousands of dollars, plus decades of my life I would have otherwise wasted in cinemas, for years now. He‘s a global treasure! 😅
I have to admit the green lipstick makes her look more like a goblin or alien than a human witch. The red lipstick color is a common way to allude to passion or emotion in theater. Wicked is definitely a story in which you would need to relate to the emotions of the main character and her story. The covering of the eyes would suggest a mystery that you would want to discover. The Wizard of Oz film used every trick in the book to use color to express emotion, magic, allusion and more and the Wicked Witch remained black and white in it. The world was transitioning from black and white filmography to color and it was moving from war and death to new life and rebirth. We will see how this turns out.🙏💕
The green lipstick was a horrendous choice. Red stands out from green, and her lips are supposed to be the primary focus of the image. She's supposed to have a knowing smirk, stirring people's imagination. What we got was, "Here's my face, this is what I look like as a person." It's the kind of photo you take for an autobiography, not a film hiding a mysterious plot.
@@NoNameNoWhereRed lipsticks is inherently sexual because women’s lips turn red when aroused. Green lip stick means nothing at all and is just an abstract outfit choice meant to match her skin, probably since black lips match their skin tone.
I drove Eugene Lee for about 10 years before he had surgery and passed away in rehabilitation. Total tragedy, that was a man who took Wicked to a whole new level. I would drive him from Providence RI to Manhattan every Wednesday during snl season, then right after dress rehearsal on Saturday night he would get picked up and drove back to Providence to work on other stage design stuff, he literally owned (and his wife still does) an entire city block you would never guess there's an amazing mansion behind in the heart of the brown university area. He worked the entire time from day ine on SNL and managed to be behind the scenes of some pretty memorable plays and shows etc. A Great man
"Our poster was an homage, not an imitation" Ma'am, you are doing a movie adaptation. It's more than an homage. And I agree. This movie is about the character. Not her.
@@ScubaLemur You don't have the freedom to cause economic damage or damaging the reputation of the company or project you're working on though. Companies do fire people for "bringing the company into disrepute"
In all honesty. The hat over the eyes gives her the "Mysterious Wicked" look! I liked the hat over the eyes with the smirk. I didn't know it was image generated. It's a shame there's always push back from celebrities when fans have fun.
Wouldn't it be great if, instead of writing that hateful paragraph, she just... "What a beautiful homage to the original poster!" Imagine the respect she would receive from the fans!
As a graphic designer, I’ve kept the original Wicked poster as my phone Home Screen for over a decade as a reminder of just how brilliant good design can be. That simple graphic with the relationship between the two central characters turns the original narrative of Glinda and the wicked witch of the west on its head and frames the new perspective perfectly. They are friends, not enemies, and that smirk and whisper says that they are both together in subterfuge and secrecy…they’re allies, and of the same mind. Subtle, clever, genius…no wonder Hollywood didn’t understand it…
As a graphic designer, I'm sure the first lesson you learned was that subtly is lost on the masses, and 99% of the time clients will choose vain trash over good design.
@@someAholeComment If the masses don't "get it" and 99% of people want something else, is it actually good design or just thinking it is just because someone thought really hard about it?
Impressive. I know a large percentage of your reviews is comedic and expresses the humor in your personality. But this was an excellent deep dive in to so many aspects of this film, that acctress and current wokeness in culture. Well done.
@@StefunnyStrange I think a woman with a bald/shaved head can be very sexy, but her personality cancels it out. What a cruel thing she did to that fan.
What does you being a black woman have to do with a spoiled whiny actress? Lmao She didn’t say “The green skin is covering my black skin. It’s disrespectful blah blah.” Pulling the color card. She’s talking about her eyes being hidden… Nice “pick me” moment tho.
I already wasn't going to watch it but this meltdown was ridiculous. The poster is roughly 20 years old and it's a classic. It's not all about you, Cynthia.
There have always been egos in actors, but man I miss the time when they embraced their role, their character, and the story they are helping tell. Actors used to see themselves as bringing a character to life. Now they see themselves as the character, the role, the story. We aren’t here for you, we’re here for the story.
It’s insane how many actors now see themselves as activists pushing a message rather than someone whose job is to render a realistic character on screen. Nothing more. Talk about how stunning and brave it is during interviews if you like, but turn in something good first.
There have always been narcissists like this in Hollywood. The real difference is that _all_ of their public messaging was handled by publicists and PR managers. These types would explode over things like this but it was in private, where they could throw wine glasses at the wall and nobody knew about it. Now, they whip out their phone and make public posts on the spot. Social media (ironically) is just Todo pulling back the curtain to reveal the sad truth behind the "Great and Powerful."
You hit the nail on the head ole-drunkard. Cynthia's meltdown strikes a cord because it's just so selfish and narcissistic. Me me me me me me me me ME! She gives the impression that she has zero respect for Wicked or the character of Elphaba and just sees the entire thing as a personal vanity project.
0:32 when I saw her irl picture, I wasn't surprised - it's about as expected. it's usually the ones with the septum piercings that are the most obnoxious and self victimizing istg. 🙄
Glenda's whisper in the edited poster/original broadway poster: "Here is my deepest, darkest secret, only for you to know." Glenda's whisper in the unedited poster: "We've been trying to reach you about your broom's extended warranty."
I also like that the "smirk" on the original is saucy and playful -- it's sardonic, yes, but there's still a certain pleasantness and sense of warmth to it as well. (It would have been easy to mess that up and make it closer to a cold, cruel sneer.) Really remarkable how they got all that exactly right.
She's claiming she's protecting Elphaba. Fans of Wicked have been doing that for 21 years, we don't need a newcomer who admitted to only seeing it after being offered the role to do it. They already messed up Glinda casting Ariana.
_"The subtle art of shutting the F up!"_ *Brilliant!!* It embodies what I call the SEE principle: Simple, Elegant, and Efficient. Another classic! Thank you, Drinker!
@@Chan-zn7wbThat's the beautiful thing about memes. They can be made from anything at any time. That line surely didn't mean much other than to garner chuckles, but it's the most famous line from Dodgeball now.
To the Critical Drinker: That was an EXCELLENT analysis of the original "Wicked" poster graphic. It was thoughtful, insightful and well-presented. The fan-made movie graphic returned mystique and intrigue to Elphaba Thropp that was completely sanitized by the studio's graphic. It's too bad Ms Erivo didn't stop to think about that before going rapid-fire on her Twitter account. The damage is now done, and I wish Universal luck re-marketing "Wicked" against the backlash.
That's cuz Tim Curry was a quintessential professional & absolute legend. That's why even his flops achieved cult status. He was the absolute best part of whatever movie or TV show he was in. Oh and shocker no one ever gave crap about his LGBTQ status cuz it isn't important to his craft or who he was as a person. It was simply one aspect to who he was not his entire identity. That's why he's an icon today he focused on the work not the agenda.
@@bhart3321I literally didn't know he was gay until this very moment and he's always held a soft spot in my heart. His VA work for narrating A Series of Unfortunate Events was also great. As you said, I never knew he was gay because he never made it his identity.
@@bhart3321also never knew. Respect. Anyone making their sexuality their identity is annoying, from a flamer to Dan Bilzerian. I always love that Norm quote about pride. I'm paraphrasing, but it should be fairly close, "Having pride in something you have no control over makes no sense. It's like having pride for being born with 2 ears, 2 arms, or a nose."
@@bhart3321 Actually, many people were curious about his sexual orientation, specifically after he starred as Dr. Frank Furter in the Rocky Horror Show. Tim Curry has never confirmed or denied whether he is gay or not. He said it is his business and no one else's. Even though there have been rumors of him dating several women such as Marcia Hurwitz (she is a talent manager) because they were spotted together on the red carpet multiple times and later rumored to be dating Marina Drujiko (a Russian model). In both cases it was never confirmed by him. He leads a very private personal life. He could very well be heterosexual, gay, or bisexual, who knows (and like you said, we shouldn't care! Nothing to do with his job or his content of character). But again, I think it's important to note that he never confirmed his sexual orientation. But yes, I agree, his LGBTQ status isn't important, what is important is how good of an actor he is and he also seems like a genuinely good man. He has that on screen presence that makes him hard to ignore....he is a great legend. So sad that he suffered a stroke, but otherwise says he is in good health.
"because without words, we communicate with our eyes..."
Gives the blankest of stares.
Had to stop my eyes from rolling when that sentence hit my brain......
One could also say gormless.
she has the look on her face when you accidentally fart in public
Right?!! Only thing her dumbass face conveys there is that she'd rather be anywhere else.
the only thing communicated in those eyes is,
"I'm vacuous."
Most sad is that edit was certainly made out of pure love for the original stage play and excitement for the movie. That's what fans do.
I hope the fan that did it is now planning on not watching the film, and is actively encouraging their friends to also boycott it.
There are sure to be others to boycott it on their behalf too. I don't know anything about Wicked, but I'd heard about it, and was planning on seeing the movie at some point. Not any more.
Exactly. It's the most horrible reaction to fan love I've ever heard of. Not even to mention that it's a lot more appealing than the original poster - and not because the eyes are missing but due to the overall lighting and colouring etc.
You mean Former Fan surely?
@@SpookMrsSpooky I saw it on Broadway in Chicago many years ago and had been really looking forward to this movie. Naw, now I'm good.....
"Hey! You know how iconic the Broadway poster is for Wicked? We should recreate that for the film!"
"I have never been more insulted in my life."
What the hell?
Is your (CAT) green? SAME THING!
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She should have researched the posters and art before she opened her stupid mouth. If people decide that they don't like the actor, the movie will surely fail.
She got a sense of righteous satisfaction by posting it, I hope that is worth the grief it will now get her.
@@kieranelliott5607 Hollywood grief is credit
It’s not a picture of her. It’s a picture of her character.
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All these celebrities should get a manager who tells them, “No don’t tweet that. You’ll just make a fool of yourself.”
They are busy being abused to care about social media.
It's tragic really
Bold of you to assume they're gonna listen to a manager like that
That would get in the way of their ability to farm outrage.
The worst part is their manager probably tells them to do just that in order to get attention.
The shocking thing is that they already do.
MY face! MY eyes! MY poster! MY movie! MY performance!
But when the movie fails, suddenly my/me gets thrown out the window instead replaced with "YOU are the reason the movie failed! It's YOUR fault".
The levels of narcissism are off the charts!
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Modem women🤷♂️
Her downfall.
Indeed. These folks have no foresight and logic is no where to be found. I mean, you have to have lack intelligence to put a ring through your nose like cattle.
Classic
Hugo Weaving wore a mask for the entirety of V for Vendetta and still gave an utterly unforgettable performance full of character and emotion.
Yes. So amazing. Also have you seen the movie Kingdom of Heaven. Edward Norton wears a mask like 99% of the movie. It’s an amazing performance.
Hugo is a professional. and has class.
2 huge differences here.
LOL I never knew that was him I just got btfo. To be fair the mask is better then me wondering how Agent Smith/Elrond got isekaied here. @Leahcanton Damn I should have gone as him for halloween there are literally infinite good costume ideas.
He's professional and not a race-baiting wanker though lol. Sadly there aren't that many professional actors anymore.
Also, Tom Hardy in...well, everything 😂
Sad thing is the fan poster was better........ her ego got in the way of what could have been a very positive news story.
I used to think Harrison Ford was an arsehole for saying his characters were just paychecks to him. Now I've learned to appreciate that approach.
He’s a legend - an actor with enough sense to see his profession as a job and not as his entire identity.
I no longer like Star Wars thanks to Disney.
Marlon Brando and Robert Mitchum basically said the same thing about their acting jobs
Striving to dissappear into the role out of passion for the craft > stark indifference (Ford) > seeing the role as a chance for you to self-insert
@@eveapple4928Not a legend. He is a woke fool like that unsightly female they stuck him with in his latest embarrassment, er, I mean, film. tf
Nothing says “out of touch” like demonizing the very people who decide if your film succeeds or not.
What's weird is that this behavior has been going on for a decade now, at the very least, and it almost always ends the same way.
"Don't like it, don't watch it, this wasn't made for you!" Aaaaaand then it bombs and many careers are ruined or bruised.
And yet it's like no one learns from it.
These people are out of touch, for sure.
"Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing."
Now, what political values does Hollywood hold?
There's your answer
She already got paid.
@@chance_ondriezek99 someone needs to tell her that she’s supposed to be acting her character, NOT BECOMING HER.
She’s 🎵 starting to have delusions of grandeur🎵
“To edit my face and hide my eyes is to erase me”
I am lost for words from how moronic that statement is
Almost as moronic as "This is the most offensive thing I've ever seen."
Especially since she's green in the film. She doens't look like herself because she's playing a character.
What an idiot 🙄
@@meggillespie2255 Yup she seems to forget she's acting and people are going to see the character she plays, not her.
There she is, all erased and everything, but yet somehow still making that annoying noise.
"This poster erases me!" As an actress that is what she is meant to do her self. Its called "acting".
YES!!!!🙌🏻 Thank you!!!
"There used to be a me, but it was surgically removed." Peter Sellers, 1977
She thought she was an actIVIST
There's an old saying, "Insecurity is loud. Confidence is quiet."
The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room
@@ZenkiCoyote Sums up Cynthia's character
tell that to my school bullies
Nothing illustrates this better than a confrontation between a Chihuahua and a Dobermann
@@EvonyeIvorymore than happy to do that. Give me their info.
Despite her claims, she wasn't communicating anything with her eyes. Her face was expressionless.
Don't be rude. She was communicating autism...
Exactly. In reality she has the empty, dead-eyed (shark eyes) stare of a woke cultist.
Well, apart from vacant, and airbrushed...
The scene clips shown she has that same blank face…no expression at all
I would disagree. For me, she has an expression of boldness and pride, even narcissism. When her comment was shown, I was amazed, how well it fits the face expression. It looks like the original idea was to recreate the poster, but she made the studio do it as she wanted. That would explain the degree of her butthurt.
Social media killed the Movie star
Video killed the radio Star
Nice.
@@chasehedges6775 Do you sing both to the same tune? Works for me.
Sound killed Norma Desmond's career.
Removed the veil … they kill themselves
"Never reply to fan edits."
-Sun Tzu
Elvis Presley did it best when he would say, “I’m just an entertainer so I’ll keep my opinions to myself” He didn’t pretend to know everything and didn’t feel the need to tell people what to think.
I didn't know Elvis was that smart. He comes up a few notches in my estimation now.
celeb worshippers are lowest of the low.
That’s why he’s THE KING!!!!👑 👑👑
I didn’t know that. And he was bigger than any of the modern day whiny crybabies that everyone fawns over.
I saw that interview. The journalist was trying to bait him into saying something controversial and he didn't take it. It's on youtube if you can find it. It's a press conference.
People with egos this big shouldn't be playing characters, because it is clear that they can't play anyone other than themselves.
Her nose ring was a dead giveaway to her disgusting activist mindset. I instantly knew she was gonna react like a moron way before I got to that part in the video.
I guess that's what happens when you hire activists, instead of actors. But, really what's the difference these days?
This is most younger actors. I've even seen video game voice actors claiming that the character they play is them and if you insult the character they claim you are insulting them (see FFXIV's "Wuk Lamat").
@@HotaruGlaivethe voice actor for that character is mental problems. That character feels like a dei character shoe horned in the story.
I mean she once attacked a fan who fancasted her as one of the muses of Hercules because she was 'too good' to play a side character
I can't wait for one skillful troll to edit the entire movie to hide her eyes.
This needs to be the top comment, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*Face
Your comment is hilarious! I wonder if someone will actually do it.
Turn her glasses into dark 🕶️
Or the opposite...give her big googly eyes in every scene
Being outraged is social currency in Hollywood
God forbid a fan be a, you know… fan.
IKR!?
Yeah, how dare they?
Wait you mean they're allowed to like movies without being activists for what societal issues the movies represent? 😱
One of the problems i think is that media paints with a wide brush everyone who has any discourse as a fan. If i hate a show I'm still a "fan". Much the same thing for all the armchair warriors who want DEI in everything even if they know nothing about the IP. They are also called fans when they aren't at all
Shhhh...they might hear you 😮.
As an illustrator, I sympathize deeply with the artist who made the fan-art in the first place. They spent some time and effort into showing their passion for the original show and excitement for the coming movie, only to get shat on all over by the star of the project. Heartbreaking.
Lol I like that you said "some time and effort" cause it wasn't a lot. The fan art wasn't even good but it's the talk of the town now.
@@KingKam93 it wasn't very good but it's not the point, fans that draw like toddlers and still make fanarts are not to be shat on by the star. It's not about artistic quality, it's abiut disrespect and entitlement
@@KingKam93 it's the effort and the heart that matters. Now it's all burnt to ashes because of the 'actor'. Heartless.
@@Makowh exactly.... damn trolls just type to type
@@MollyHJohns Actress* Males and females are different. Let's stop trying to erase that.
I’m not excited for Wicked, but the fan made poster is better than most of the movies posters we got for that film
Me too! I have no idea why people are excited about it. I liked the show, but the movie already looks like trash.
I wonder if her reaction is why the movie poster doesn’t look more like the musical poster 😬 she’s already gone off about this.
I mean, if I was really nitpick, I’d say that the artist should’ve used a more different color of red lipstick for her mouth, but other than that, I don’t see any problem.
But the actress wants us to know that she hates us all, and you can't see that in the new poster!
The Movie posters are not enticing or compelling. After this outburst neither is the lead.
She's under the impression that she's in charge of anything.
_My face! My eyes! My Poster! My movie!_
Cool. In that case, YOU go ahead and buy a few hundred thousand tickets to make YOUR movie profitable at the box office. You don't need us.
My Dune!
.... sorry, wrong movie.
my neck, my back...
Ahhh... My back!
It's not my demographic -straight, Huwhite, normal, nuclear-family oriented. I'm mystified why so many posters here even care. Are you all gay?
Owwwww, my pancreas.
"The subtle art of shutting the f*ck up" - well said.
Dr. Dennis Leary, 1993, and mow the lawn
This woman will simultaneously claim to be a victim, marginalized by her skin color, gender, and sexuality - while at the same time saying an edited MOVIE POSTER for a film she will get paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR is the most offensive thing she has ever seen - while the rest of the world struggles to buy groceries. What an absolute doughnut.
You nailed it! Word for word.
I awared you October's Golden Wordsmith Award. Bravo! 🎖
She was just waiting for something to be offended by. If it wasn't for this poster she would have had to look for something else.
Its always the Black lesbian cancer Patients that are so lightskinned 😢
Oh man I'ma need to use donut as an insult moving forward. Thank you for that gem
damn, this vid is literally on SUPER POINT! wow. Perfect explanation of the poster differences and why the one is good and the other sucks.
"To edit my face and hide my eyes is to erase me"
If you're doing your freaking job as an actress NOBODY should see you on screen. They should see whatever *character* you're playing. That's what the best actors and actresses do. If you wanted to be a cult of personality you should have pursued a music career like your co-star.
Exactly
Typical narcissistic bs. They're ridiculous.
I can’t even see her as the character. She’s just the green version of herself. She’s not a very good actress. Take away the voice and you have nothing
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing when I heard about this.
You know, that's probably what's going on with her. Jealousy of her co-star.
Between the Acolyte, Agatha, and Wicked, it has been a rough year for witches.
And Assassin’s Creed Hexed next year. Thank goodness for Bayonetta.
@@bluecoin3771
Oh no, that concept had some potential. What a waste.
Dune was good though
Also, Kamala the cackler.
As unexpected as the Spanish Inquisition
"It erases me."
"Your terms are acceptable."
Not well enough.
This, I might have gone to see this. Guess not any more. Can't pay the trolls
Just get over how there are actually people on there defending her saying she’s been attacked ever since she was announced to be part of the movie. No, no one has a word about her until she threw her little tantrum.
Does she know it's a character we go to watch and not her? Or is she green? 😮
😂😂😂
@@biancaenera2500 freaks me out if she truly believes that she owns this character no, you don’t sweetheart no, you don’t and I mean she really does seem to think that we’re going to see her and not a character. It’s insane.
"The subtle art of shutting the f*ck up"--what almost EVERYONE on social media needs to learn.
My two cents as an actor myself:
Why don't they ever understand this?? It's not them on the poster, it's the f*ing character!
You're asking a lot from these idiots.
Very, very small brains, that's how. 😉😉
this is common for actors, they think people are there to look at them
I used to work pretty regularly in the film business and people were under the illusion that it must be exciting to meet and be around actors. No. Most of them are narcissistic, empty assholes. You wouldn't want to hang out with these people and they would annoy the shit outta you if you did. Cool and normal is the exception.
It's definitely feels like an ego thing, like how large you name is on the marquee/credits, or whose name is listed first. Maybe it was important to her to see her own face front and center in a starring role, which would explain why she took it so personal. They shouldn't have tried to mimic the theatrical poster then.
I feel most sorry for the fan. Imagine getting blasted online by something you love. That's cruel (or I guess you could say, wicked). The fan poster was better btw.
How many WICKEDLY talented actresses would’ve killed to be in something as iconic as this and they were passed over for this narcissistic diversity hire?
Of course her version was better. It was closer to the original, which was very well thought out, as opposed to the Disney poster, where the actress insisted on her face being plastered everywhere because she’s such a big deal, or something.
Guessing you're not a Star Wars fan. Or you've been in a coma for the last ten years.
@chrisblanc663 this is not a disney production, its universal
@@subs-kh2mw shows how much I know. Hahaha! Thanks
"The subtle art of shutting the fuck up."
Could not possibly agree more.
@@Coffin1987 youd think in the age of bottle of the barrel, remake movies being churned out with zero creativity and originality that their Egos woukd be a bit smaller!!
I don't quite think I would have said it better!
Notice the I's
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is immediately accounted wise: but the setting forth of lips become a rod of folly.
Proverbs 17:28, Douay Rhiems Translation.
People have known of this fact since before Christ was born and it seems like a lot of people who really should know that considering their platform have forgotten such wisdom.
You should make tshirts with that phrase on it. You’d make millions.
"Zegler is more toxic then a romantic weekend in Chernobyl". Oh man, you made me laugh hard😂🤣😂🤣
The 2003 Broadway poster was also designed so that it wouldn't have to redo the artwork everytime the cast changed -- that's part of why parts of the faces are obscured. It's not a value judgment or throwing shade or anything, it's just a great way to have an evergreen poster...and the fan edit was just an homage to that poster!
Edit: wanted to add that the Broadway poster is from the early 2000s! As a theatre kid of the time, I remember we were all OBSESSED with that cast album!
"Evergreen"... haha. I see what you did there.
So well said.
...and the fan even carefully/skillfully repositioned the hand and thus improved even that bit 🙂
At first I thought maybe it was because they edited her features to change things they didn't like about her face... but the only change I saw was they removed the freckles... and if she really has freckles as an actress and someone is removing parts of you to improve you... I could see how it would offend, but it didn't look like she really has freckles in real life, so those are part of the character not her. They didn't change the size of her nose or lips, or face shape, jaw line, nothing that would seem offensive to me. They just tinted her lips red and turned them into a smirk. I think the reaction was over the top... just like this entire video was a ridiculous response to a response. She could have said nothing... just like the Drinker could have... but obviously something about it offended him.
@@jaminv2889Oh maybe Drinker is tired of arrogant actors who have to make everything (even inconsequential things) about them? You have to admit playing the victim when an actor gets a big time roll is tedious as hell.🙄
That fan edit poster looked so legit that I had no idea what the hell this was all about until you started explaining that it wasn't actually an alternative version of the poster.
lol I thought it was the actual poster, heard there was some drama but not what it was about
it's better! Apart from the lipstick, not quite right.
I thought the edit was the original and she was made they made her look extra black in the "edit" (original). 😂
The actress is green with envy that her poster is not as good.
Dude, the original looks like something I would've made in first year digital design.
Remember when Karl Urban had his eyes covered throughout an entire movie but still able to convey emotions? Now THAT is a real actor.
c'mon thats a low blow, reminding us we're never gonna have a sequel to the best movie adaptation of Dredd, great, now I need to watch it again for the, I dunno, tenth or eleventh time? not gonna complain, i'd rather watch the same great movies/series dozens of times in my life than watch newer crap that I know for a fact i'll hate
Heheheh I love Dredd...but let's be fair his required range in that film is as follows....pissed off...really pissed off 😂
I'm reminded of how for The Mandalorean the actors had to keep helmets on. ANd it's one of the best regarded Star Wars thing of the Disney era. Not a high bar to climb, but certainly a point to it.
Karl is an actor ... cant compare him to someone who just demands they are supposed to be a movie star just because ...
Or Hugo Weaving in V For Vendetta. Had his face covered the entire movie and did an excellent job.
Or what about Heath Ledger as the Joker? The makeup and prosthetics he wore throughout the entire movie completely altered the actor’s appearance, yet we all know how legendary that performance is.
The red lipstick instantly reminded me of the ruby slippers, in a sort of colour associated way.
"Actors became too narcissistic when we stopped treating them like the court jesters that they are."
This is why actors used to be lower than prostitutes.
Stop insulting court jesters, they were all much more self aware than any of these subhumans
They started thinking and then all hell broke loose.
Don't you insult my bro Roland the Farter
Historically court jester is a prestigious position. Those were more like diplomat comedians. I wouldnt put actors near them. They are more like just regular jester.
Hollywood can’t not attack the fans
Exactly💯💯
Want to take another shot at that sentence?
And act scandalized when the fans strike back.
@@-scorpionox- Why? Anyone else gets it just fine.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037💯. STAR WARS - Revenge Of The Fans that Strike Back
No one is talking about how insane the first sentence of her statement is "This is the wildest, most offensive thing I've seen" ??? as a black woman in Hollywood, the most offensive thing she's seen is a fan edit covering her eyes in shadow???
And there are two things equal to that, she says.
What are the odds on having three separate things being the 'wildest, most offensive thing' ?
Systemic racism debunked again.
I think it's because she's associating the wicked witch as being black because OF COURSE the witch was only ever in her position because of the color of her skin.
So she assumes the edit was done because the person hated black people because the actress views everything in allegory.
Well if that's true then she had one hell of a privileged life.
Makes perfect sense, that a Narcissist is more "Offended" by ANYTHING affecting them, than ANYTHING else they've seen.
Hopefully she'll see some truly "Offensive" things directed personally at her, and they will recalibrate her scales.
How this glaringly compares to the tick tock user who joyfully rolled along on his skateboard singing to DREAMS by Fleetwood Mac. The ban all came out in magnanimous support, they met him, Stevie sang with him...such a stark contrast
He still homeless
As an actor, the most important things to remember are that you are:
1) ..Saying words other people wrote
2) ..Wearing outfits other people designed and made
3) ..Walking in a world other people created
Realize that you are the interpreter of these things. A big piece in the machine that breathes life to the story.
Be professional.. and whatever you do, don't start slinging mud with strangers over the internet. They are professionals at it. You are not prepared.
😂😂😂😂
I would bet a lot of money that Cynthia is the type of actor to be a total dick to crew.
Very well said.
I imagined illidan leaping into the air with that last bit.
4) ..You have spent less time at school than Greta Thunberg
(Courtesy of Ricky Gervais)
She's pissed because she pushed for the movie poster design, and the social media reaction confirmed that she was wrong and she can't handle the truth.
Exactly this. "*I* chose to look down the barrel of the camera." I've never seen an actor/actress so self-centered it's almost as if they forget they're playing a character. I can assure you that if the actor who plays Freddy Krueger pushed to appear as himself instead of his usual charred skin costume, it would also not be received well.
Do we know it was her idea?
@@eleanorigby5881actors get final say if it’s in their contracts.
Schatzi!!
@@eleanorigby5881 There is no way it wasn't her idea. The only thing that poster showcases is the actress playing Elphaba. It does not say anything at all about the movie and the other actress has her face obscured by her hands.
The power of one flop, the power of two flops, the power of many
Best comment here mate, well done
Lol ought to have a million 👍
This ones like Barbie though kind of sells itself half the world's female population will go see it anyway but how dumb does this lady have to be.
only these space witches are not stopping.... wheres the squid game jedi when we need him! 😁
I agree, the best comment so far! 😂😂😂
Ngl I like the fan edit version better and think it is far more usable than the one Universal picked. It adds mystery and is a sweet homage to when the musical first hit the stage and became a global success. Reminds me of a happy memory when I saw it two days before my ninth birthday, original cast save Joel Grey (an understudy was in his place). I saw Idina and Kristin live...and it was amazing!
The poor fan was probably super embarrassed after all that hard work and...yeah super entitled and bratty way to receive fan art from someone.
The fan edit looks way more interesting to me than the original. Its artistic and draws you in.
Exactly. But Cynthia is so self absorbed she just doesn't get it.
My wife doesn’t follow any of this stuff but was excited for the movie since she loved the play and the book. Asked her if she had heard about the drama (she hadn’t) then showed her the actress’s reaction to the poster and she just said, “ugh, guess I’m not gonna see it, I’m tired of people like that”. I’m sure she isn’t alone in getting turned off of a movie so easily.
Your wife definitely isn't alone. I was excited to see the film, but no more. I refuse to give one penny of my money to ppl like this actress.
did you show your wife the drama, just so you could get out of being dragged to see a movie? XD
@@CloudWalkBeta lol. Luckily I have a 22 yr old daughter that she takes to things like that! But I definitely wouldn’t put it past me!
"im tired of people like that" indeed. I dont spend my money a lot of places now because of that. Not sure who these assholes think they are, but they arn't to me. These people can take their entitlement and shove it.
I was considering watching the movie in theaters, I really wanted to support the movie! The musical is very important to me and I just wanted to see it succeed as a movie. I don't find the motivation within me anymore, though that might change in the future
"The subtle art of shutting the f*** up" would make a great title for a book...
I think he was parodying the book “subtle art of not giving a f***” which is both hilarious and clever
Wait please write it! I want to preorder it as an ebook!
That book already exists
They have a saying down south:
"Never pass up a chance to shut the hell up".
So perfectly worded. Hollywood should really listen to you and rethink how they look at their own careers. And, on top of everything, they are not even 1/1000 of the stars of classic cinema. Again, a perfect analysis of the story. Bravo!
It wasn’t even a criticism of her. If anything, it was a criticism of the graphic designer.
I think this reaction points to her being responsible for the awkward posing in that poster 😉
Don't bother telling her that. She WANTS to be a victim of something. Anything.
@@mrsx7944 Maybe they were expecting an "atack" from "toxic fans" so they could say the movie bombed because of it.
But they didnt get anything, so now gota create it.
Unless she directed how her image was used for the poster.
@@Tnscla the movie isn't out yet.
The explanation of the poster is a great breakdown of graphic design and marketing. Something Hollywood knows nothing about anymore.
Yes. However I think the modern movie poster is that way for a reason. It's putting it right in your face that the witch is played by a black actress. You couldn't do that with the same impact if half her face was covered.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 That's stupid and pointless. Not to mention egotistical.
They are ruled by idiotic nepo babies, whose main job is to find and appropriate anything even remotely exciting and talented. Then it is just a soulless mimicry of the original with the massive tinge of nepo babies ego boost.
The edited version was a vast improvement. The only effect of her complaining was to demonstrate that she does not understand the story she acted in.
Yes I'm sure that you, some guy who comments on culture war film critic TH-cam videos, understands the Broadway musical Wicked more than the Tony award winning, Oscar nominated professional actress who spent over a year shooting 2 films adapting said musical. You're definitely the expert here, not her.
I would honestly love to know if you have read or listened to any other comment she's previously made about the show, the film or the character, or if you just watched this one video and think you now know enough about her to claim that she doesn't understand the story. I'm going to assume it's the latter.
@@olgil And when the ticket sales come back as bad as your argument, it's going to be that the fans don't understand the story. The best show when these creative abominations happen is the gaggle of appeals to authority and meritocracy arguments that start coming out amongst those who swear they don't believe in it. And in defense of *celebrities* at that-- the most over-paid, out-of-touch, and vapid gaggle of Plastic People our society has to offer. But when it's not a conversation about eating the rich, suddenly celebrities are enlightened creatives with a superior knowledge and deserved authority above us normal viewing plebs who have no room to speak on endeavors so far beyond our understanding. Please, never change.
@@olgil Are you saying her reaction wasn't absurd? Moreover, the fact that she didn't have a clue what to do with her expression suggests that she _didn't_ understand the undertaking. The prestige of the stage play has emphatically nothing to do with our perception of an unrelated actress in a new version. Although I have nothing to say about the stage show, I would imagine that Tonys carry no more cachet than current Oscars, which is to say asymptotic to none, hence the huge decline in interest in the entire self-congratulatory awards pantheon.
@@olgil Considering most actors/actresses don't even know the characters they are portraying (or even the story behind it) when they get the job (looking at Agatha All Along..), you're 'ass-uming' a lot..
The edited picture makes her look BETTER, not worse. It's also fan art, so I don't get what the problem is. Having a tizzy because good fan art went viral is just plain silly. It's not like it's going to be what is on the promo for the actual show. Even if it is, it's better, so what's the problem? The 'erase her' by editing her argument is silly because she's already 'edited' for the show; she's GREEN. She has contacts hiding the true color of her eyes. HOW IS SHE ERASED? And how the heck is it worse?
@@olgil Literally Drinker covers all your BS in the video you obviously didn't watch or you wouldn't have made such a stupid comment wasting your and everyone else's time. LOL "I'm going to assume" he says smfh, yeah dude we know you are, we've been doing this with you weird cult idealogues for over a decade now and it's all you ever do. Get rekt.
Your last line summed it up perfectly!
4:45. You just know the actress DEMANDED her whole face be shown on the poster. Thats why she's pissed off the image went viral.
Yup
Exactly, I bet the hissy fit she threw was imense. Probably got her agent involved and everything and then some fan recreates exactly what they did and she loses her shit.
She's not especially attractive for an actress.
She looks like an bloody green apple that's got some eyes and lips stuck on it.
You'd think with a face like that she'd be happy it wasn't blown up on posters everywhere. Nope.
“We communicate with our eyes”
Lady the whole point of the original poster was to sever that communication so you as the viewer dont know what the witch is thinking
And I even think that she’s wearing contact lenses? So they’re not even her actual eyes, if she is.
There is a line that separates fans who appreciates art, thespians and the art of subtlety, and the mass media of movies and videos, and this line is clearer with her reaction.
Maybe her eyes should learn how to type instead.
Articles defending Cynthia completely ignore that Ariana's hand was moved upward, covering most of her face, because you know they want to spin it as a race issue and antagonize the fans.
Yeah. Also I don't hate on black actresses taking over every role, but why not pick a hot black chick as the witch? Instead we got some bull-××××
Yeah, she doesn't even look like Ariana Grande in that poster, and I think that's an improvement (not because I hate her or anything, just because it makes it more mysterious, like the poster they're trying to emulate)
Ariana also commented on the poster edit at some red carpet 2 days ago and basically said it’s not that deep. It seems Cynthia is just suffering a main character meltdown or something…
@@DiosaDelOscuraAriana’s comments about the whole incident were very diplomatic, very graceful, she basically managed to show understanding for both the fan and her co-actress, while downplaying the whole affair. Maybe some other people could try to learn from her.
@@venanziadorromatagni1641 Her media training has always really impressed me.
Love ya brother! Your content is the best! (Just wanted to keep it subtle)
These aren't actors anymore; they're professional victims and they need to be banned from social media, so we're not subjected to their nonsense.
These studios need to stop hiring middle-aged black bald-headed “wahmen” with nose rings…
Actress starring in a huge movie production somehow really felt this attacked by a random graphic designer on tiktok
Don't forget they are also agenda spokespeople.
A person being paid to pretend to be something they are not, in this case a victim.
Yeah, that's an actor.
Banning seems like a bit much lol
All the fan did was make the modern poster into a homage of the OG poster.
That's all. I'm not a big fan of Wicked. I'm pretty apathetic about it. But even I knew that poster.
They weren't trying to cover what's her name up. They just wanted to make a better poster. The modern poster doesn't even compare to the OG one.
This made her look ignorant of the property she was starring in and the difference between actor and character in a way that made Dan Quayle's Murphy Brown critique seem wise and well-informed in comparison.
The original movie poster is awful, and nobody is trying to erase it - just make something not unpleasant to the eyes. The green cakey lipstick is /yuck.
This actress is full of herself and will not watch the movie because of her ignorance and stupidity.
IMHO the film poster looked borign asf.
It looks like some B movie poster made by a high school kid.
Have you had a chance to read the book? I absolutely loved it! I haven't seen the play. In the original story, there is definitely no room for musical numbers. ❤
This is one of the best analysis I have seen. This actress only cares about her showing her entire face on the poster because it’s ONLY ABOUT HER. Her blank stare says nothing other than deer in headlights… zero emotion. The simple movie poster conveys so much more emotion and depth than her eyes looking straight down the camera. How sad is that…
Actors take part of their pay in the size of their face on the posters. Look at any modern (i.e., Star Wars or later) movie poster, and it's 90% pictures of the actors' faces with some relevant scene from the movie in the background. Had her face been hidden, they'd have to pay her more.
It's a bad poster design, and the change of lipstick from red to green makes the character look relatively plain and boring compared to the stage play character.
Contrast makes things look more visually interesting - I get a funny impression that the lack of red lipstick was actually down to the actress putting her foot down.
@@darrennew8211still they could’ve done it a bit better than that shite one they made
Narcisitic morons in Hollywood....No way! 😂
@@gagalover2k10 I'm not judging any artistry involved. I'm simply opining why the actress might be upset by her face being covered on a promotional poster, and/or why they didn't stick with the Broadway version.
..."the subtle art of shutting the f*ck up"... I love that and I will be stealing it, thank you
So nice I can watch 10 minutes of Drinker to save me hours to go to a movie theater, so much time to use on worthwhile things, thank you Drinker for making life better.
You were going to see Wicked before Drinker's video, lol?
That's why I'm here! Lol
It looked like a crap fest movie even before she opened her piehole, not to mention that awful septum piercing. They're always rrreeing. You also save loads of money, not just time.
I was interested in the movie because I didn't feel like investing the time and money to see the show. Now I don't want to watch the movie either. 😒 Maybe I will dig up videos of the show to see what I missed... or walk my dog instead.
Drinker has been saving me thousands of dollars, plus decades of my life I would have otherwise wasted in cinemas, for years now. He‘s a global treasure! 😅
I can't look at that image without thinking "Shrek" or "She Hulk." Or maybe she is the child of these two?
Same, looks ugly af, would have been so much better stylized
Hey now! Shrek and (M-She-U) She Hulk are better looking and way more expressive than her!
Could be The Mask as well
Shriek definitely Shrek. That is the image I got.
Ghetto she-hulk
I have to admit the green lipstick makes her look more like a goblin or alien than a human witch. The red lipstick color is a common way to allude to passion or emotion in theater. Wicked is definitely a story in which you would need to relate to the emotions of the main character and her story. The covering of the eyes would suggest a mystery that you would want to discover. The Wizard of Oz film used every trick in the book to use color to express emotion, magic, allusion and more and the Wicked Witch remained black and white in it. The world was transitioning from black and white filmography to color and it was moving from war and death to new life and rebirth. We will see how this turns out.🙏💕
The green lipstick was a horrendous choice.
Red stands out from green, and her lips are supposed to be the primary focus of the image. She's supposed to have a knowing smirk, stirring people's imagination.
What we got was, "Here's my face, this is what I look like as a person." It's the kind of photo you take for an autobiography, not a film hiding a mysterious plot.
All I see when I look at the poster is "Shrek."
@@MarboFilmI didn’t see that and now I can’t unsee it.
@@NoNameNoWhereRed lipsticks is inherently sexual because women’s lips turn red when aroused. Green lip stick means nothing at all and is just an abstract outfit choice meant to match her skin, probably since black lips match their skin tone.
@@georgec5212 Their lips don’t turn bright red when aroused. Carbon monoxide poisoning does that.
I drove Eugene Lee for about 10 years before he had surgery and passed away in rehabilitation. Total tragedy, that was a man who took Wicked to a whole new level. I would drive him from Providence RI to Manhattan every Wednesday during snl season, then right after dress rehearsal on Saturday night he would get picked up and drove back to Providence to work on other stage design stuff, he literally owned (and his wife still does) an entire city block you would never guess there's an amazing mansion behind in the heart of the brown university area. He worked the entire time from day ine on SNL and managed to be behind the scenes of some pretty memorable plays and shows etc. A Great man
"Our poster was an homage, not an imitation"
Ma'am, you are doing a movie adaptation. It's more than an homage. And I agree. This movie is about the character. Not her.
I too thought that original broadway poster "smirk" was perfectly created. Subtle, engaging, and causing interest to see what the show was about.
Interests the viewer too, why is she smiling? What about? Very good stuff
It perfectly says "come for a bit of fun and mischief". Remember when movies were fun?
The production companies need to start sueing for damages caused these actors for tanking their films. That would shut them the hell up.
Nah, they dont want to pay for actors public relations manager.
Ugh no? Freedom of speech exists for a reason lol
@@ScubaLemur You don't have the freedom to cause economic damage or damaging the reputation of the company or project you're working on though. Companies do fire people for "bringing the company into disrepute"
@@ScubaLemurpeople can still sue for defamation with FOS. Thats how I took this person's comment
@@SpareSomeChange8080 why do you care about a movie company lmfao
In all honesty. The hat over the eyes gives her the "Mysterious Wicked" look! I liked the hat over the eyes with the smirk. I didn't know it was image generated. It's a shame there's always push back from celebrities when fans have fun.
Wouldn't it be great if, instead of writing that hateful paragraph, she just...
"What a beautiful homage to the original poster!"
Imagine the respect she would receive from the fans!
Ye, how can a person be so out of touch? Must be substance abuse. Or the brain is fucked up due to some kind of cult or something. Yeah, that.
"damn that would've been so much better than our version. dude where were you 5 weeks ago when we made that poster?"
Say you are proud of your poster and respect the homage, eaaaasy.
That would require at least some vague semblance of understanding of and care for the source material
Impossible, when you view your life and the whole world through the lense of racism and victimhood
“The subtle art of shutting the f*ck up”…that definitely deserves a subscription!
It's a hard art to master, but an important one none-of-the-less.
As a graphic designer, I’ve kept the original Wicked poster as my phone Home Screen for over a decade as a reminder of just how brilliant good design can be. That simple graphic with the relationship between the two central characters turns the original narrative of Glinda and the wicked witch of the west on its head and frames the new perspective perfectly. They are friends, not enemies, and that smirk and whisper says that they are both together in subterfuge and secrecy…they’re allies, and of the same mind.
Subtle, clever, genius…no wonder Hollywood didn’t understand it…
Yeah, it's almost as if we don't need eyes to communicate...
As a graphic designer, I'm sure the first lesson you learned was that subtly is lost on the masses, and 99% of the time clients will choose vain trash over good design.
@@someAholeComment True. True. I will always try the good idea with clients. Sometimes it takes, but you can’t fix stupid.
@@someAholeComment If the masses don't "get it" and 99% of people want something else, is it actually good design or just thinking it is just because someone thought really hard about it?
@@Isnogood12Quality is very different from popularity.
Impressive. I know a large percentage of your reviews is comedic and expresses the humor in your personality. But this was an excellent deep dive in to so many aspects of this film, that acctress and current wokeness in culture. Well done.
I’m a black woman and I’m fed up with self-victimization and people like her. Mr. Clean should’ve kept her damn mouth shut.
When I see her I think of xerxes from the 300, shes got that same smug demeanour.
🫱🏻🫲🏿
@@StefunnyStrange I think a woman with a bald/shaved head can be very sexy, but her personality cancels it out. What a cruel thing she did to that fan.
the Mr. Clean is wild
What does you being a black woman have to do with a spoiled whiny actress? Lmao She didn’t say “The green skin is covering my black skin. It’s disrespectful blah blah.” Pulling the color card.
She’s talking about her eyes being hidden…
Nice “pick me” moment tho.
This situation was honestly hilarious.
She should have a kid with Simu Liu, it could become the most permavictim to ever have permavictim across the face of the world.
@@brockdavid Great idea, someone has to spawn the next Greta...
@@brockdavid Great. They can go criticize bobba tea together as a hobby, and no one would care.
I already wasn't going to watch it but this meltdown was ridiculous. The poster is roughly 20 years old and it's a classic. It's not all about you, Cynthia.
I wouldn’t watch it either. Just gonna be cgi galore with mediocre singing
I wouldn't waste my money on something that I could just go to broadway for. CGI mess.
That „go away now“ sounded very graceful.
The edited poster is 10x better than the official one
The original red lips are different better
There have always been egos in actors, but man I miss the time when they embraced their role, their character, and the story they are helping tell. Actors used to see themselves as bringing a character to life. Now they see themselves as the character, the role, the story. We aren’t here for you, we’re here for the story.
It’s insane how many actors now see themselves as activists pushing a message rather than someone whose job is to render a realistic character on screen. Nothing more.
Talk about how stunning and brave it is during interviews if you like, but turn in something good first.
This perfectly explains current Hollywood
Exactly
There have always been narcissists like this in Hollywood. The real difference is that _all_ of their public messaging was handled by publicists and PR managers. These types would explode over things like this but it was in private, where they could throw wine glasses at the wall and nobody knew about it. Now, they whip out their phone and make public posts on the spot.
Social media (ironically) is just Todo pulling back the curtain to reveal the sad truth behind the "Great and Powerful."
i AM the Senate!
You hit the nail on the head ole-drunkard. Cynthia's meltdown strikes a cord because it's just so selfish and narcissistic. Me me me me me me me me ME! She gives the impression that she has zero respect for Wicked or the character of Elphaba and just sees the entire thing as a personal vanity project.
Industry is plagued with a bunch of Veruca Salts these days.
All I'm seeing is Shrek struggling with bulimia
Modern entertainment in a nutshell.
0:32 when I saw her irl picture, I wasn't surprised - it's about as expected. it's usually the ones with the septum piercings that are the most obnoxious and self victimizing istg. 🙄
Glenda's whisper in the edited poster/original broadway poster: "Here is my deepest, darkest secret, only for you to know."
Glenda's whisper in the unedited poster: "We've been trying to reach you about your broom's extended warranty."
😂
OK, a thumbs up is not sufficient praise for your hilarious and true comment! Well done!
Slow clap for you sir..well done haha
I also like that the "smirk" on the original is saucy and playful -- it's sardonic, yes, but there's still a certain pleasantness and sense of warmth to it as well. (It would have been easy to mess that up and make it closer to a cold, cruel sneer.) Really remarkable how they got all that exactly right.
More better Emotion and acting coming out of that poster than her in the whole movie... I'm calling it Now.
Worrying about your own image rather than the quality of the project says it all.
I do NOT understand why they run an ad for this during every NFL commercial break
Pushing it hard.NFL still has a large audience
@ yeah but most aren’t gay and/or women. Maybe they’re hoping the wife will say “you don’t take me to the theater, how about a compromise”
She just crapped all over some fan's heartfelt tribute and now she wants to seem stunning and brave. What a role model for young women!
She's claiming she's protecting Elphaba. Fans of Wicked have been doing that for 21 years, we don't need a newcomer who admitted to only seeing it after being offered the role to do it.
They already messed up Glinda casting Ariana.
This breakdown is why you’re so popular in the mainstream.
Details and nuance delivered honestly and to the point.
I love that as well.
a good part of society today is uncapable of producing nuanced thoughts and opinions sadly
_"The subtle art of shutting the F up!"_ *Brilliant!!* It embodies what I call the SEE principle: Simple, Elegant, and Efficient. Another classic! Thank you, Drinker!
This won’t stop the movie being successful
We can all agree that the fan art is better than the professional art
Cynthia’s MELTING! She’s MELTING! How dare you destroy her egotistical wickedness!😂
They turned the famous Wicked poster into the George Bush being told about 9/11 meme
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHA
Underrated comment
Pump this up to the top
You mean remaining calm and waiting until you know all the facts instead of panicking and freaking out like a liberal tranny?
No, they didn't.
LOL
The only reason I know about this movie nowadays is because some of the Mattel dolls accidentally lead to an NSFW site.
“It’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.”
I never want this meme to die! 😂
I wonder if Jason Bateman knows his small role in Dodgeball took on a life if its own. 😂
It appears he's putting on a blindfold!...,Yeah he will not be able to see very well Cotton! 😂
From my favourite comedy of all time. I can always go to Dodgeball for a good laugh.
@@Chan-zn7wbThat's the beautiful thing about memes. They can be made from anything at any time. That line surely didn't mean much other than to garner chuckles, but it's the most famous line from Dodgeball now.
To the Critical Drinker: That was an EXCELLENT analysis of the original "Wicked" poster graphic. It was thoughtful, insightful and well-presented. The fan-made movie graphic returned mystique and intrigue to Elphaba Thropp that was completely sanitized by the studio's graphic. It's too bad Ms Erivo didn't stop to think about that before going rapid-fire on her Twitter account. The damage is now done, and I wish Universal luck re-marketing "Wicked" against the backlash.
Tim Curry was once asked what he thought of all the fan fiction made for "Rocky Horror Picture Show". He just smiled and replied, "We did it better."
That's cuz Tim Curry was a quintessential professional & absolute legend. That's why even his flops achieved cult status. He was the absolute best part of whatever movie or TV show he was in.
Oh and shocker no one ever gave crap about his LGBTQ status cuz it isn't important to his craft or who he was as a person. It was simply one aspect to who he was not his entire identity. That's why he's an icon today he focused on the work not the agenda.
@@bhart3321I literally didn't know he was gay until this very moment and he's always held a soft spot in my heart. His VA work for narrating A Series of Unfortunate Events was also great.
As you said, I never knew he was gay because he never made it his identity.
@@bbbbbbb51 Ian McKellen too. Another icon that keeps his activism separate from his work & we love him for it.
@@bhart3321also never knew. Respect. Anyone making their sexuality their identity is annoying, from a flamer to Dan Bilzerian.
I always love that Norm quote about pride. I'm paraphrasing, but it should be fairly close, "Having pride in something you have no control over makes no sense. It's like having pride for being born with 2 ears, 2 arms, or a nose."
@@bhart3321 Actually, many people were curious about his sexual orientation, specifically after he starred as Dr. Frank Furter in the Rocky Horror Show. Tim Curry has never confirmed or denied whether he is gay or not. He said it is his business and no one else's. Even though there have been rumors of him dating several women such as Marcia Hurwitz (she is a talent manager) because they were spotted together on the red carpet multiple times and later rumored to be dating Marina Drujiko (a Russian model). In both cases it was never confirmed by him. He leads a very private personal life. He could very well be heterosexual, gay, or bisexual, who knows (and like you said, we shouldn't care! Nothing to do with his job or his content of character). But again, I think it's important to note that he never confirmed his sexual orientation. But yes, I agree, his LGBTQ status isn't important, what is important is how good of an actor he is and he also seems like a genuinely good man. He has that on screen presence that makes him hard to ignore....he is a great legend. So sad that he suffered a stroke, but otherwise says he is in good health.
Annnnd yet, ANOTHER GREAT 'o.-p.' from tha 'C.D.'! Keep-'em-comin', sir!!
"The subtle art of shutting the fuck up."
I am so going to use that line with some of my co-workers.
Right up there with "the all-but-forgotten cultural technique of minding one's own business" 🍻
109% stealing that