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Jackson Coosa X Bonafide RVR119 on the water review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 เม.ย. 2023
- Specs
Jackson Kayak Copsa X
Weight: 98lbs
Weight Capacity: 425lbs
11'8" long
36" wide
Bonafide RVR119
Weight: 85lbs
Weight Capacity: 425lbs (Bonafide lists usable capacity = kayak weight + paddler weight + gear)
11'9" long
35" wide
Liquidlogic Kiawah 10.5
Weight: 57lbs
Weight Capacity: 325lbs
10'8" long
32.5" wide
Wilderness Systems Aspire 105
Weight: 48lbs
Weight capacity: 400lbs
10'6" long
29" wide
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That looks like Fred Berry, floated that stretch quite a lot
It's Kelly's slab to the city park. Right through Fred Berry
@thebeardedpaddler is that your store at Cotter I've bought a couple outlaws from you guys
@@Skinner_Family it is!
@thebeardedpaddler would the bonafide skf117 be a big upgrade over the outlaw? I like how stable it is but so slow and drags a lot on Crooked creek
@@Skinner_Family 100% it would be
I enjoyed every minute of this video, I don’t mind longer videos, especially with on the water performance tests. Keep ‘em coming 😎
Honestly, I didn't notice the video was longer than normal. It was a very fun video to watch. You spoke of the foot pegs in the Coosa X, but how was the legroom in either one? Can you do a comparison video on the Kupik and the Bite? Things like legroom, weight capacity, ease of paddling and stability. I mainly use my Pescador Pro on lakes for fishing, so I am looking for a new fishing kayak to replace it. Thanks for the great informative videos!
Yupik will paddle better than the Bite and feel similar in stability. The Yupik is about 1/2 foot longer and the ability to "trim" the boat with the seat moving forward/backward is huge to me.
As far as capacity the Bite comes in at 400lbs and the Yupik is at 425lbs. They have the same seat but you get the high/low option on the Yupik.
Thank you for watching!
Really appreciate the review! Subbed🤘
Thank you!
The RVR119 capacity IS NOT 425lbs. it is 340lbs by bonafides statement on their website where they demand you subtract the boat weight from the listed capacity numbers. Many other videos show that its even lower than that. Its dangerous and misleading and we in the community, especially retailers, need to point this out to prospective buyers.
I was burned when I got my ss127 with its claims of 475lbs weight capacity, only to get it on the water and getting about 350lbs in it and realizing it was getting close to max weight. Then a couple months later, videos came out exposing this. Had I known it I never would have purchased it. I sold it recently and will NEVER own another one as long as they keep doing this deceptive and misleading practice.
They do list it on the website as boat/paddler/gear BUT Old Town, Native, and Bonafide all do this. Old Town list it as weight capacity and then list "usable" weight capacity below it.
There really needs to be a standardized process for advertising weight capacity. Some companies figure the capacity as the point where the performance is diminished while others rate it as the point at which the boat sinks.
Nonetheless, this is not an easy topic as every company has a different definition of capacity. Nucanoe, Jackson, and Hobie are ones I personally trust the numbers as I have personal experience with them loaded down.
Of those three, I would say that Jackson is maybe the most conservative with their capacity numbers.
Video on this coming soon!
coming in solid on the feedback as always! Have a great weekend!
@@thebeardedpaddler I agree. chad hoover addressed this in a video. Its so dangerous and much of it is marketing. They need to put this info on their boats and how they do it.
At the minimum we need to call out the usable capacities of the boats to keep people safe. Its why I am so against bonafides deceptive practices.
I agree each jackson has been conservative. I think the knarr might have been the exception as I believe they actually decreased the capacity rating of it from the first release. But like their orion coolers, its about what can go into it. Chris funk showed the coosa x with 525lbs in it and said he could go more. Ive put over 600lbs in my bigrig and could have gone more. It shows jackson is being a responsible manufacturer.
I tried the yupik pegs in the tri track, and then the coosa x pegs. Both had the same problem of riding against the side of the boat as the tri track is recessed some. The Yupik pegs worked a bit better but were still cocked. The ridge on the coosa x pegs couldnt engage the track too well to keep it from rotating. It would need a hole drilled through and a second t bolt added. Both t bolts would need to be a bit longer. It will still be cocked unless spacers were installed.
I'd love a solid solution for this as I would love to have pegs mounted to the tri track since ill rarely be using fishing rods. I'd love to have both sets of pegs so that I could move my feet as needed. I still like pegs out wide for stability.
Same here. Good feedback!
Nice work, would you say the coosa x has better initial stability than the RVR?
Yes, very much so. It's also VERY maneuverable
I’m looking at purchasing one or the other this year and although maneuverability is important on a river I did want initial stability for small lakes also, I know it’s hard to get both in one boat but it looks like the coosa x comes pretty close!
Thanks
@@Rk2ride can't go wrong with either one. If kayak weight is a non issue, the Coosa X is phenomenal!
Thanks for watching!
This was a good video overall and nice to see several boats. Certainly nice for a first on water video. Your videos keep refining and getting better.
It would have been nice to hear the comments and impressions as each was paddled. Especially comparing one to another.
I'm 6'2 with a 32" inseam. I took my coosa x through some class 2+ to class 3 whitewater when I was in tennessee. While i did swim twice, it was solid and predictable even though it was the first time on it nad was coldish water. One swim was my mistake, the second was that I had to make a choice as the line switched back quickly in a z shape and I didnt think I could get to so I tried to boof off the ledge straight vs hitting it sideways. I swam on landing.
Overall people were impressed with how I was able to handle such a large boat in such whitewater. I started to get used to the centerline footpegs, though like you i wish they were further out. I might try switching them to the tri track, or take the pegs off my Yupik to see if they would work. I don't fish for now so I dont need to store rods in it.
I saw this tip from Chris the feral one that is critical with the jackson ez high low seats. You MUST secure the seat to the back rail with a rope or short strap. If you go upside down, the seat can come out of the track. I used a 3ft NRS cam strap. Both times I swam in the white water, the seat came out and only the strap kept me from losing it. It also makes for a nice backup should a seat strap break.
Great tip. I loved the Coosa X. It definitely does not handle like a Jackson in my opinion. I paddled upstream, maintained position in shoals, and dumped as well. Its a great kayak for moving water AND lake water.
@@thebeardedpaddler lols now ya tell me after I added a yupik to the fleet too for the flatwater lol. I did get 25% off on it and got 10% off my second bite because of getting it at the same time.
I'm looking forward to testing out the shallow draft of the X come summer since most of ohios waters get super shallow. Being a bigger guy (300lbs with myself and basic paddling gear) so I tend to drag when lighter paddlers get through ok.
The tip about the seat is all Chris's and I'm so glad I saw it as it saved me alot of headache and money. Its why I wanted to pass it on. He actually did a video about it.
@@MysticalDragon73 if you see me floating in the Coosa X I'm in about a foot of water. I'm 6'5" and about 265. I never dragged anywhere during this float
I have a 2019 coosa hd, and it's time to upgrade. i was wondering if the X does as well as the hd on flat water. My hd is not the fastest girl, but i can move at a good speed Can the X do that
Yes. In my opinion the X may move a little better on water than the HD but it's not a huge difference.
It is heavy though
How about inshore saltwater?
I see no issues with either honesty
Great question