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one thing I love about Jackson outfitting, on the fly adjustment, especially getting in and out. But I like softer edge, to each his own 👍, live in super mank country, but Jackson has kicked up their game, win for all.
Very good point but the ZETs are really good with outfitting and yes this is a big water boat does not like rocks it will work but your going to be catching those rails a lot Just look at all their own marketing it was like all massive rivers not really paddling on stuff that the normal buying public will be using this boat on but I get it when doing those media roll outs
Man, thanks for answering these comments. Really good info in there for the boat buying public. And good work getting this review out so quickly. Is the Code better on rocks and lower volume stuff?
Over 1,200 views in the first 7 hours. You’re the go-to boat review. Dane had a great walkthrough with his typical crazy on-water b-roll, but you’ve got the Everyman paddler review. It has features very similar to the Alpha 75, sans chines.
@@WadeHarrison Yeh, Dane probably had a teleprompter (?), but great delivery considering his hearing disability. Of course, Dane could paddle a hollowed out tree trunk and make it look good.
This review and your comments are surprisingly positive considering your comments in the Creek Boat Breakdown video 😂. Until today I’ve only paddled my Z3. Had a chance to demo a Gnar at a Festival today and I liked it miles ahead of my Z3. I’m interested to try others now, but getting in the Gnar quickly made me realize I want a different boat.
Definitely already thinking about how can I buy one of these boats, haha. I guess I'm kind of a Jackson fanboy since I have a Traverse, Zen 2, Nirvana, and Antix 2.0. I was thinking about getting a code possibly before this Gnarvana came out. I'm looking for a boat to make you more confident for the "next level."
Definitely a upgrade from the Nirvana the best boats JK have ever done in my opinion Antix 2 and Gnarvana both have really nice rails and do everything they were designed for really good
@@WadeHarrison I like that Jackson moved the hip pad straps to the front to stay out of the way of the backband. I also think it was a good thing that they added a buckle to the lower part of the hip pad to hold them down. That new buckle should help with the longevity of the hip pad. I think the worse thing for Jackson's hip pads is the wind getting in the cockpit traveling to and from the put-in and takeout. I've mentioned that before, so maybe Jackson saw that comment.
Do you prefer the large scorch to the Gnar or just the medium scorch? What about the large did you not like? Harder to maneuver? Tossing up between a medium gnar and large scorch since Alex reckons the gnar can handle a bit more weight than specified (I'm 200lbs atm). Don't wanna end up with some harder to move around in tight spots and can't demo
Hey Josh I felt the large scorch for me and the rivers Im was mostly on was just not needed I love the scorch X so much i would get one of those before a large scorch. The medium scorch just fits so perfectly at my weight I seen no reason tp go with the larger one. And with the gnar I feel the medium could float easily someone up around 220. I have not seen the L gnar yet so who knows how large it will be? But I thought the large scorch was sized perfect. And really both the boats are really good I think you can’t go wrong either way personally.
How does the Gnarvana’s edges compare to the Scorch’s edges on rocks? I’ve tried the Scorch and loved it. The Gnarvana’s edges look more tucked out of the way.
My opinion the scorch is the best river running creeker ever made they kinda set the standard the scorch doesn’t like rocks either but it is slightly better then the Gnarvana but I mean just slightly
Thoughts on the Med vs. Large for someone who is 5'9" and 205-210 (athletic build)? Pros to the Med with my stats might be better tracking/edge engagement (?) I was thinking about the Zen 3 as well but like the movement out of things in the gnarvana over the sluggishness out of holes and off drops that the Zen 3 seems to have.
Wade, love your reviews. Question: I am coming to the sport late in life at 62 and am still a beginner but running some class III’s now. I am currently in a large Mamba but it is probably 10 yrs old and starting to show its age. I am looking for the boat that will do the best job of allowing me to get down the rivers I will run and stay right side up. (BSF, Ocoee, Clear Creek, etc.). I am not into hard creeking or doing tricks/stern squirts. I am a bigger guy at 6’1” and 225, so thinking large Gnarvana or Large Code for my next boat but open to other suggestions. What would you put me in?
@@kentwilliams13 I'm a bigger guy as well. I paddle the latest 8.6 Mamba now. Bought a new large Code a year back and absolutely hated it. Same story with a new Machno. Tried every seat position multiple times and couldn't get comfortable in both. Nothing is stable and controllable like the trusty 8.6 Mamba IMO🤷🏽
you for sure should get the small I was shocked how much larger these were they run big and I looked and some are still in stock At CKS check the link below. coloradokayak.com/products/jackson-kayak-gnarvana-whitewater-kayak?ref=wade&variant=41835089395888
ive been looking into getting the code or machno for my first kayak would you suggest this in the running also ive been rolling and playing around in a burn but really enjoy jackson outfitting feel thanks for the reviews
My picks in this order for best river running creeker as of today are Pyranha Scorch Jackson Gnarvana Dagger Code and maybe something else coming soon will be very high on this list 🤔
@@WadeHarrison awesome pal thanks for the info cant seem to find a code in stock in wv here so the gnar might be the play keep up the good work love the videos
What size would you recommend for some like me. I am 6'1" and fluctuate between 200 and 205 lbs. The medium or the large? I have always been either on the low end of large boats or high end of medium boats.
The Gnarvana is a really really good kayak but the Scorch is Great kayak I feel the scorch is the best river running creeker ever made it’s going to take something special to dethrone it for me but the industry as a whole is starting to take notes so anything is possible….
I currently have a Large Scorch, it's a huge boat for me even thought I'm 5'2'' 225lbs. I have a hard time rolling it. My go to boat is my Jackson Antix 1.0 Large. I absolute love that boat and have no trouble rolling it. I've had a large machno and medium karma in the past. I liked the karma better than the machno. I'm debating on getting rid of my scorch to try and find a medium creek boat I can get into. I was looking at the code (I've never had a dagger boat) and gnarvana. What are you thoughts? I'm a class 3 beater.
The Scorch L is big yes But the dagger Code Lg fits smaller your height is what’s going to make those bigger boats hard to control or roll have you tried the medium code or medium scorch you might be surprised how well you fit in those or this one in med
It’s definitely better then the OG faster blast out and has a harder carving rail and I like the OG and both the OG and Gnarvana do best in big water that’s where those designs shine
Take the length of the small and give it 95 gallons with the width and height of the medium and a fat stern. Reduce the rocker to mostly kick rocker, Voila! The Villain II. A master design for the ages for all Class V+ micro creekers 170 10 210 pounds.
Wish I hadn't got paralyzed this past winter. This looks like the boat of my dreams. Maybe they'll let me buy one and hang it on the wall in my room. Probably not though. They don't even let us hang pictures of our loved ones here.
Yo wade! Isto just me or doesn’t it remind you of a zet cross? Especially that bow aesthetics! Also the boat design, excep the cross don’t have them rails
Exactly I try to give the fairest reviews out there no matter the brand and this boat has an edge that's not designed for those flare transition type boofs off rocks don't get me wrong you can do it but it. But oh boy it's not easy to slip those flare rock boofs. Now the Code or Alpha oh hell yeah those slip off everything like butter but get pushed around when the river flows get big so it's a tradeoff...
@@WadeHarrison Would you say the same applies to Wakas? I feel like they have similar edges but a lot of their sponsored paddlers really excel at the edge-heavy 'cobra boof' style. Which isn't so much the case for Jackson's stable of more linear american paddlers.
Code vs Gnarvana - How would you compare the primary stability and maneuverability? Similar or way different? I see that the boat specs are very similar. Awesome video! Thanks for the review as always!🫵🤘🛶
Very different actually and the code is way more forgiving and stable than the Gnarvana a better comparison is the scorch which is still my top river running creeker out there today but I do like what Jackson did with this one
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one thing I love about Jackson outfitting, on the fly adjustment, especially getting in and out. But I like softer edge, to each his own 👍, live in super mank country, but Jackson has kicked up their game, win for all.
Very good point but the ZETs are really good with outfitting and yes this is a big water boat does not like rocks it will work but your going to be catching those rails a lot
Just look at all their own marketing it was like all massive rivers not really paddling on stuff that the normal buying public will be using this boat on but I get it when doing those media roll outs
Man, thanks for answering these comments. Really good info in there for the boat buying public. And good work getting this review out so quickly. Is the Code better on rocks and lower volume stuff?
Hey glad I could help Charles
Yeah the code is amazing for rocks boofs but gets pushed around little to much in big volume rivers
Over 1,200 views in the first 7 hours. You’re the go-to boat review. Dane had a great walkthrough with his typical crazy on-water b-roll, but you’ve got the Everyman paddler review. It has features very similar to the Alpha 75, sans chines.
Hey thanks Mac appreciate that and yeah I thought I talked to fast then I seen Danes walkthrough holy shit 😂
@@WadeHarrison Yeh, Dane probably had a teleprompter (?), but great delivery considering his hearing disability. Of course, Dane could paddle a hollowed out tree trunk and make it look good.
@@macfawlty oh for sure!
That was super fun to watch!
Thanks gecko
This review and your comments are surprisingly positive considering your comments in the Creek Boat Breakdown video 😂. Until today I’ve only paddled my Z3. Had a chance to demo a Gnar at a Festival today and I liked it miles ahead of my Z3. I’m interested to try others now, but getting in the Gnar quickly made me realize I want a different boat.
I love hate this design 😂
Definitely already thinking about how can I buy one of these boats, haha. I guess I'm kind of a Jackson fanboy since I have a Traverse, Zen 2, Nirvana, and Antix 2.0. I was thinking about getting a code possibly before this Gnarvana came out. I'm looking for a boat to make you more confident for the "next level."
Definitely a upgrade from the Nirvana the best boats JK have ever done in my opinion Antix 2 and Gnarvana both have really nice rails and do everything they were designed for really good
@@WadeHarrison I like that Jackson moved the hip pad straps to the front to stay out of the way of the backband. I also think it was a good thing that they added a buckle to the lower part of the hip pad to hold them down. That new buckle should help with the longevity of the hip pad. I think the worse thing for Jackson's hip pads is the wind getting in the cockpit traveling to and from the put-in and takeout. I've mentioned that before, so maybe Jackson saw that comment.
Do you prefer the large scorch to the Gnar or just the medium scorch? What about the large did you not like? Harder to maneuver? Tossing up between a medium gnar and large scorch since Alex reckons the gnar can handle a bit more weight than specified (I'm 200lbs atm). Don't wanna end up with some harder to move around in tight spots and can't demo
Hey Josh I felt the large scorch for me and the rivers Im was mostly on was just not needed I love the scorch X so much i would get one of those before a large scorch.
The medium scorch just fits so perfectly at my weight I seen no reason tp go with the larger one.
And with the gnar I feel the medium could float easily someone up around 220. I have not seen the L gnar yet so who knows how large it will be? But I thought the large scorch was sized perfect. And really both the boats are really good I think you can’t go wrong either way personally.
How does the Gnarvana’s edges compare to the Scorch’s edges on rocks? I’ve tried the Scorch and loved it. The Gnarvana’s edges look more tucked out of the way.
My opinion the scorch is the best river running creeker ever made they kinda set the standard the scorch doesn’t like rocks either but it is slightly better then the Gnarvana but I mean just slightly
What size Scorch to you paddle/prefer for your size?
@@earthwisdom101 I’m scorch M 5’11” 180lb
Thoughts on the Med vs. Large for someone who is 5'9" and 205-210 (athletic build)? Pros to the Med with my stats might be better tracking/edge engagement (?) I was thinking about the Zen 3 as well but like the movement out of things in the gnarvana over the sluggishness out of holes and off drops that the Zen 3 seems to have.
the gnar runs big so my suggestion try the M out because the L is massive
Wade, love your reviews. Question: I am coming to the sport late in life at 62 and am still a beginner but running some class III’s now. I am currently in a large Mamba but it is probably 10 yrs old and starting to show its age. I am looking for the boat that will do the best job of allowing me to get down the rivers I will run and stay right side up. (BSF, Ocoee, Clear Creek, etc.). I am not into hard creeking or doing tricks/stern squirts. I am a bigger guy at 6’1” and 225, so thinking large Gnarvana or Large Code for my next boat but open to other suggestions. What would you put me in?
Yeah I say large code
Thanks!
@@kentwilliams13 I'm a bigger guy as well. I paddle the latest 8.6 Mamba now. Bought a new large Code a year back and absolutely hated it. Same story with a new Machno. Tried every seat position multiple times and couldn't get comfortable in both. Nothing is stable and controllable like the trusty 8.6 Mamba IMO🤷🏽
Great review!
Thanks Judy
Hey Wade, nice review man! I'm 5'5'', 150 lbs. Would you recommend Small or medium Gnar?
you for sure should get the small I was shocked how much larger these were they run big and I looked and some are still in stock At CKS check the link below.
coloradokayak.com/products/jackson-kayak-gnarvana-whitewater-kayak?ref=wade&variant=41835089395888
Thank you for the quick response@@WadeHarrison
ive been looking into getting the code or machno for my first kayak would you suggest this in the running also ive been rolling and playing around in a burn but really enjoy jackson outfitting feel thanks for the reviews
My picks in this order for best river running creeker as of today are Pyranha Scorch Jackson Gnarvana Dagger Code and maybe something else coming soon will be very high on this list 🤔
@@WadeHarrison awesome pal thanks for the info cant seem to find a code in stock in wv here so the gnar might be the play keep up the good work love the videos
What size would you recommend for some like me. I am 6'1" and fluctuate between 200 and 205 lbs. The medium or the large? I have always been either on the low end of large boats or high end of medium boats.
This boat runs large in all three sizes you're on the medium but could do a large also I would suggest the M but try to get in both before you buy.
@@WadeHarrison Thank you so much for the advice Wade!
This boat looked pretty sick on the water, on the eagle section of the beaver this weekend people were flying out of the second slide
Oh I bet with that wide flat bow up there it just blasted over that second drop hole..
The gnarvana looks like a cross between a nirvana and a scorch. What are your thoughts now that you paddled it Wade, scorch or gnarvana?
The Gnarvana is a really really good kayak but the Scorch is Great kayak I feel the scorch is the best river running creeker ever made it’s going to take something special to dethrone it for me but the industry as a whole is starting to take notes so anything is possible….
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Would you recommend the Gnarvana over the Z3 for a first boat?
A big Yes!
Awesome thanks!
@@WadeHarrison the big is a zen 3???
@@gabo5020 Gnarvana all day over the Z3
@@WadeHarrison I am 1.83 and weigh 192 lbs what size would you recommend for a gnarvana???
I currently have a Large Scorch, it's a huge boat for me even thought I'm 5'2'' 225lbs. I have a hard time rolling it. My go to boat is my Jackson Antix 1.0 Large. I absolute love that boat and have no trouble rolling it. I've had a large machno and medium karma in the past. I liked the karma better than the machno. I'm debating on getting rid of my scorch to try and find a medium creek boat I can get into. I was looking at the code (I've never had a dagger boat) and gnarvana. What are you thoughts? I'm a class 3 beater.
The Scorch L is big yes
But the dagger Code Lg fits smaller
your height is what’s going to make those bigger boats hard to control or roll have you tried the medium code or medium scorch you might be surprised how well you fit in those or this one in med
@@WadeHarrison I have not tried mediums in those boats yet. I need to find a place to demo them.
How does it compare to the OG?
It’s definitely better then the OG faster blast out and has a harder carving rail and I like the OG and both the OG and Gnarvana do best in big water that’s where those designs shine
Do you have any idea of a good bigger boat for a 5’6 14 year old.
Small Scorch or Small Gnarvana I like the scorch over the Gnarvana but both are the to top river running creekers I have paddled
@@WadeHarrison thanks so much for your advice. I love you video
Any comparison to a Karma?
No sorry I try not to worry about discontinued models very much with comparisons
@@WadeHarrison yep, I understand. Just didn’t know if you had been in both.
Gnarvana vs Scorch vs Alpha ?
Will see what I can do
Take the length of the small and give it 95 gallons with the width and height of the medium and a fat stern. Reduce the rocker to mostly kick rocker, Voila! The Villain II. A master design for the ages for all Class V+ micro creekers 170 10 210 pounds.
interesting take
I see a shiney new red one in my future 😍. Will you be grabbing one for your personal collection?
The red does look good
Wish I hadn't got paralyzed this past winter. This looks like the boat of my dreams.
Maybe they'll let me buy one and hang it on the wall in my room. Probably not though. They don't even let us hang pictures of our loved ones here.
Can you make it a background picture
Yo wade! Isto just me or doesn’t it remind you of a zet cross? Especially that bow aesthetics! Also the boat design, excep the cross don’t have them rails
The cross was no where near as wide it had more of old school look to it
Ok def not as wide. But the bow looks just as ugly lol
Time of the ‘tater is over! The age of the banana is here!
Hahaha 🤣 Well on that I’m saying The scorch is the Prime Rib
Wade - can we get a scorch vs gnarvana video ? 🙂🙂
Maybe 🤔 👇👇
JK Gnarvana VS Pyranha Scorch
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Loop it!!!
I got a space Godzilla at the 10:20 mark
@@WadeHarrison I was too early, you’re an animal dude!!
@@earth-2-ethan 😂 all good buddy
The fact that it doesn't like to boof on edge (8.45) is pretty disappointing.
Exactly I try to give the fairest reviews out there no matter the brand and this boat has an edge that's not designed for those flare transition type boofs off rocks don't get me wrong you can do it but it. But oh boy it's not easy to slip those flare rock boofs.
Now the Code or Alpha oh hell yeah those slip off everything like butter but get pushed around when the river flows get big so it's a tradeoff...
@@WadeHarrison Would you say the same applies to Wakas? I feel like they have similar edges but a lot of their sponsored paddlers really excel at the edge-heavy 'cobra boof' style. Which isn't so much the case for Jackson's stable of more linear american paddlers.
I feel like it’s a Jackson scorch.
🤔 that’s only one scorch
It just looks like Jackson copied the scorch a little
Looks fun. But the name is a little too on the nose imo.
Was not a fan of the name
@@WadeHarrison I always called the Nirvana the gnarvana.
Looks so fun but it’s so ugly 😂
That bow could use some styling
@@WadeHarrison I kept thinking the bow was the stern. Awesome video, thanks!
Code vs Gnarvana - How would you compare the primary stability and maneuverability? Similar or way different? I see that the boat specs are very similar.
Awesome video! Thanks for the review as always!🫵🤘🛶
Very different actually and the code is way more forgiving and stable than the Gnarvana a better comparison is the scorch which is still my top river running creeker out there today but I do like what Jackson did with this one
@@WadeHarrison remember, some of us like forgiving and stable
@@CryptoSurfer yes and the Dagger Code i would highly recommend for that it’s the best everything river running kayak out there today
@@WadeHarrison - I just picked up a Medium Code (had to wait about 6 months for it). I’m excited about that setup.
@@wolfriveroutdoors did you buy it new or used? I ordered a small rewind in October. It still isn’t in yet.