💯💯💯 American 4 banger sports cars (ecoboost mustang/LTG camaro) are EXTREMELY underrated. These are cars that offer better bang for your buck compared to Civic Type R, Golf R, WRX, JCW, V4 A90 Supra, Audi TT and many more but because they don’t have a Japanese badge no one gives a sh1t about them.
@@altonwilliams7273 yeah thats a mustang lol Ive got a 2009 Commodore SS (pontiax G8 for guys in the states) and that had 355hp on a very conservative tune from the factory. All these new high strung 4 cylinders will be fucked after 100,000km.
It’s funny that this 4-cylinder Mustang has more power than plenty of V8 Mustangs of the past. I think you guys are pretty jaded from driving so many high performance cars.
Honestly, this is enough. Rear Wheel drive, manual transmission, and sub 400 Horsepower -- this is something you can actually drive hard. You can learn, you can handle, and you can daily this easily. You cannot drive a, say, GT350 all out on normal roads. I like this :)
problem is its a ford the king of unreliability...... No car should have ANY problems before 100,000 especially in modern day. DONT BUY MANUAL MUSTANGS they are trash. Ford is being sued right now because the manual mustangs all broke
i found that i had to exert more effort with the steering on a 5.0 when going through the twisties than with this ecoboost. the front on the 5.0 was quite heavier, like wrangling a mustang. i drive the ecoboost as a fun beater car, but can floor it and get power when passing in the mountains.
@@acsecond I've been driving mustangs for years with no issues. The trick is to remember that you don't have to beat the hell out of your car everyday, but that applies for any car.
Thanks thats so true, the best car to learn in is a slow car you can drive fast. Once you comfortable you can work your way up to more dangerous cars like the GT. That cars fire 🔥
Exactly, haters can hate all they want but, for less than 30k you have yourself a great looking car, is plenty fast (especially if you pump 93 octane), RWD with IRS...whats not to like?!
Michael Buffington I really am hoping that for the s650 that will be coming out in 2022, they will do it a favor and rename it the ST....I agree that ecoboost is kinda “meh”...
Well yeah because now there making 800 horsepower cars that idiots buy because of there ego. When In reality most of them will never use the full potential of the car they just wanna look “kewl” 🤷🏻♂️
Robert Smith No they are not. I never got a single bad word on my Ecoboost, only compliments. Those toxic people only exist on the internet, and they are mostly kid hwo never had any nice car whatsoever.
"Utility" lol you mean another jacked up tall station wagon with skid plates and plastic bumper guards to make them look like offroaders and raise the price up by 10k over it's car equivalent
67tomcat They won’t as long as there’s a strong market for it. Honestly,,, if the Mustang can survive the dark days of the 1980s wean everything was under 250hp and in danger of being replaced by a Japanese econobox I’m pretty sure it’ll survive the SUV craze. The American market is an evolving door.
@@EricFortuneJr. The only reason they survived was because of the chicken tax and the 1983 tariffs on motorcycles and dirt bikes as well a ban on diesel imports. In the end those tarrifs actually benefited the Europeans and Japanese because people still bought their cars over domestics at a higher premium which they otherwise wouldn't have had to pay because of the tariffs.
When you consider that the average driver is really not that good at driving, I would hope that they wouldn't get into something with much more performance than this. I think this car is plenty good for most drivers out there.
300 hp, 6 speed manual, IRS, and in a well designed coupe that can hit 0-60 in the mid 5’s? Damn impressive daily driver. This was Porsche turbo numbers a long time ago. Technology is wonderful for the normal consumer. Nicely done Ford.
As a person who’s 33 and when I was 16 the base Mustang had a 4 spd auto, platform from 1979 and a V-6 that origin dated to 1969 it’s amazing how far the base model has come! I had that V6 Mustang and it was bad at the time.
Lol back when I was 18yrs old in 2007 I had a 2004 Mustang V6 with 190hp and a 4spd auto, I thought it was the greatest thing ever until I raced a toyota mimivan and got gaptized 😂
When I had SVT Focus way back when and it was in for service the dealer only had manual V6 Mustang to loan me to drive. The manual in today's car makes that manual in the old V6 like working a pick handle in bucket of rocks.
Jake Kennedy Exactly, i was just online a few days ago looking at the specs of the 60s mustang K-code which was the high performance model back than, and this ecoboost puts out more power and torque and here alot of people are saying that its slow. Alot of people have become spoiled over the years with these 400+ horsepower v8s. Im from the old school and this ecoboost has more horsepower than most v8s from the 1960s-2009, hell ive even driven an ecoboost on a few occasions and im impressed by it. Its funny that not too long ago this ecoboost wouldve been a high performance car with its 310 and 350 pound feet of torque, but now alot of people are considering this slow, my how times have changed, and people are becoming more and more spoiled.
As far as I can tell, more enthusiasts drive the ecoboost than the GT. GT, GT350 seem to be mostly owned by old people, or rich college kids that just want to show off.
I’d recommend the RCR review of the ecoboost as it touches base on the whole “it’s not a sports car since it’s not a v8” statement. He jokes at the idea that people shun this car and ignore the potential it has. I know it’s all fun and games to knock on the 4 banger but some people really hate this thing for that one reason.
@@mirotvorez1134 Like I said in my earlier post on this comment page.....By ditching the good but unloved Cyclone V6 for the Ecoboost we have young new carbuyers/enthusiasts who can take the money they saved on car payments and insurance premiums that would have to have paid for a Coyote equipped Mustang then buy an aftermarket turbocharger and a tune and easily get GT 350 levels of horsepower and torque . Again now ALL Mustangs are NOW in fact "performance cars" whatever the trim level or engine option.Esp. when Ford offers the PP1 and PP2 suspension packages on the EcoBoost Stangs. Being that the Ecoboost has an MSRP of $26,670 within the budget of a lot of young car buyer/enthusiasts"
I have a veloster N with performance pack, and I autocross/track it almost every weekend. I can definitely see the appeal of something like this. For autocross, I think this car with the handling package and manual trans would be a TON of fun. I think I'd actually consider one of these down the road if I'm looking for a rwd car. To be honest, I don't think a lot of people need much more than 300 hp. I'm glad Ford makes an entry level mustang. What's more, I'd be willing to bet that if Ford killed this model, EVERYONE would be complaining and saying "wow I can't believe the cheapest model is the GT, what was Ford thinking"
Exactly, people never know what they want untill something is gone. Now a days most people want a 700 horsepower car that they won’t drive to its full potential they just buy them to look “kewl”
@@ZACH_95_ yep, exactly! 300hp is enough that it can actually be mostly enjoyed every day when you drive. And it's also not too much that you're afraid to take it on a track/autocross. I think anywhere from 250 to 400hp is perfect for a daily. If you are an experienced driver with a lot of seat time on track (like Savagegeese) then I can see how 300hp would seem boring. For a regular person looking for a daily/track novice looking for an entry level car, I think cars like this have plenty of power and fit the bill almost perfectly.
DylaN W And when people like us say shit like this people will call us a pussy cause “wE CAnT afFoRd ThE gT” or “We cAnT HAnDlE a fAsT caR” No it’s just reality. Most people will never drive the car that fast and to its true potential, I will never need anything over the power of the GT and for a daily I personally wouldnt want the Gt I’d go high performance ecoboost. 🤷🏻♂️
There are two ecoboost engines available. There is this one in the video with 310hp and an optional 330hp engine with larger turbo. The sport package and engine with the larger turbo would be my choice.
I was able to sample one of these EcoBoost Mustangs last summer when my wife and I took a trip to Colorado. We rented a convertible, and had an excellent time driving through the mountains, down to Colorado Springs and back to Denver, to Breckinridge, etc. The car was delightful. As a GT it was hard to beat, save for the smallish trunk. My daily driver is a Fiesta ST, which is huge fun, but a bit intense for my wife. The Mustang proved to be a really nice all-around package, with good handling and a very livable interior. It left a very favorable impression.
I just rented one of these two weeks ago and thought it was pretty awful. Completely because of the 10 speed auto trans. It was so un-smooth to drive. It wanted to shift into second 5 feet off the line and by the time you've hit 10mph it's shifting into 3rd. I was driving the winding roads of oregon and it would constantly hunt/downshift so keeping a smooth consistent throttle was difficult because you only needed a little bit of throttle, but it drops three gears and all of sudden it lurches and tries to take off on you. Manual mode likes to cancel itself too quickly, and the manual shifts are too harsh/crisp for a comfort mode (although I'd love it if I was in sport). The suspension was pretty good, but still we were pretty tired by the time we'd park it after 3 hours on the road. Power was great. Sound of the engine was good. Wind buffetting with the windows down was really bad (but you had a convertible so maybe you didn't notice!). I'd totally take one, but give me a 7 speed where its a 6 speed with a highway cruising 7th gear.
@@Krautastic I think you made the mistake to drive it in “D” and not in “S”. Big mistake... In “S” and “S+” the shift points are different, and most importantly, if you use flappy-pads, it will stay in manual and don’t switch back to auto on its own. I exclusively use “D” only in traffic jams, or under 30mph in the suburbs. Never judge the driving experience of this car based on “D” mode...
do we like it? no we don't. will you like it? yeah, probably, i guess, you have to, if you are the core buying demographic. do we all like lollipops? basically.
My how times have changed. I remember a buddy getting heat for buying a 4AT four banger Fox body, but it was a huge upgrade from his 3AT Tempo with whatever wheezing four banger it had. Now we have 300HP four bangers with 10 speeds. Crazy.
I had a T-Bird Turbo Coupe back in the day and remember enjoying it as a fun, comfortable, daily-driver alternative to the Mustang. This stock Ecoboost now offers about twice as much hp/torque, improved fuel economy, and rides/handles better with IRS. It's probably a lot more dependable also.
Prefer Supercharger (Whipple/ Roush), because at 38,000 miles i had Turbine Lockup within the Turbos at 82°+. This is caused by Thermo Variations consider locations of Turbos Ford mounts them below for lower center of gravity. Problem is they're right next to the very hot engine. Ricers know this and mount them up high close to heat extraction hood vents. To keep them cooler, and not for show. Now the Turbo Shell expands like a donut 🍩, while it's being baked the outside expansion is outwards vs. Inside expansion is inward the hole gets smaller. The Blades expansion is outward to be larger to hit the Shell. Locking up the Turbine Blades, and then add the Backflow from the Intake and Downpipe to it to spool the the Turbos more. My fuel mileage went from 32 mpg to 8-12 mpg. Glad for 2021 it'll have the GT500 engine package 5.0 V8
What I absolutely love about the S550 Mustang's present lineup is that truly lives up to the hype of the original 1964 1/2 model. Every trim level is a legitimate performance car no matter how you slice it. Want a good momentum canyon road/track day hero to compete against Miatas? You got it is the form of the EcoBoost Mustang. Want a classic Street/Strip Musclecar warrior .You got in the form of the Mustang GT. Want something to compete against the rich Euro-snobs in their Porsche 911 GT3s on the road course ? You go it in the GT 350/GT 350R . Want a supercar that you can drive everyday? Well you know, the GT 500. By ditching the good but unloved Cyclone V6 for the Ecoboost we have young new carbuyers/enthusiasts who can take the money they saved on car payments and insurance premiums that would have to have paid for a Coyote equipped Mustang then buy an aftermarket turbocharger and a tune and easily get GT 350 levels of horsepower and torque . Again now ALL Mustangs are NOW in fact "performance cars" whatever the trim level or engine option.Esp. when Ford offers the PP1 and PP2 suspension packages on the EcoBoost Stangs. Being that the Ecoboost has an MSRP of $26,670 within the budget of a lot of young car buyer/enthusiasts.
@@kevinnorwood7355 different transmission, all the coolers that you need for track day, which PP cars lacked. Suspension and aero improved the upon PP cars, we will see how much makes a difference soon. Performance Mustangs are expensive now, no doubt about it, but thE Mach 1 is way more than badges, anyone who really tracks knows its the little things that add up. The lack of diff cooling on PP cars is a joke and everyone knows it. Like i said we will see, and if its not up to par people like myself will not buy, simple as that.
ThomisticAmerican13FOX the Mustang PP2 has aero on it to give enough downforce on track days. An oil cooler is cheaper then buying a MACH 1. Where I DO give Ford credit is using the gearbox from the Gt350 all Mustangs should have that gearbox.
This is exactly the car I always wanted and I am absolutely the target demographic. I'm a guy in my mid 30s who makes enough money to enjoy this as my daily driver and it seems like a Saturn V rocket compared to the dumpster fire sedans and used hybrids I've had my entire broke-ass life haha. I don't really want more power than it has and the handling is super fun. It's gorgeous compared to everything else in its price range, too. The back seat is exactly perfect for my Husky/Shepherd mix. If you're looking at the 86/FRS/BRZ, look at this instead.
@@klausb1758 The higher cost and reliability problems was the main reason I ordered the new BRZ over the ecoboost mustang. Both are great cars, but the Brz/86 is cheaper to maintain and service.
@@eyecontrol4900 I agree. I just don't wanna pay premium gas prices. Looking at a Miata now, but I feel cramped in them. There's honestly nothing on the market I really like. It's going to be a secondary/weekend car. So, I may not even get anything.
When I got my driver's license, the 4-cylinder Mustang had just been upgraded to 105hp, and you could let a teenager drive one. The V8 had 205hp and 280 ft-lbs, and good sense said it was a grownup car. Immature and unskilled drivers wrecked them regularly. Twenty years later the V6 had 280 ft-lbs. Now a 4-banger Mustang starts at 320hp and 350 ft-lbs... Damn.
I had one of these as a rental while my truck was in for warranty repairs recently and I was impressed with the performance that you get for the money.
These ecoboost mustangs are probably as fast (if not faster) than the 4.6 GT mustangs of a decade ago. Pretty impressive, and probably more so if you put a tune or intake/exhaust on it
Herpil and... the high performance eco goes to 60 in 4.6 seconds, it’s not that far off from the Gt, and they have the same governed top speed. Most everyday people this is plenty of power.
It sounds a though this is a great momentum car. And, at 3500-3600 lbs., there's a lot of it. My only wish is for Ford to shrink-wrap the Mustang - lose a little of the girth. But really, at the price, a rear wheel drive , manual shift car is remarkable.
Got me a 2019 Bullitt in Feb. Of course a lot different price range and yes, I don't use all the 480hp yet, but it's such a fun car to have for a daily driver!
That's one of the things I really hate about car reviewers. They get so spoiled and jaded from driving insanely expensive, top-of-the-line cars, and they forget that most people feel lucky just to have something that runs and gets them to work/school.
I appreciate the high performance offered by the GT or the GT500 but in the end every financial decision comes with an opportunity cost. No matter your financial position a $95,000 GT500 (because you can’t buy the base GT500, that would not show your true enthusiast passion) and you finance it for 60/MO at 0% that’s $1,583/MO and I left out cost for taxes, tags etc. At the end of the video, you do mention some more positive notes but the disdain for this car is palpable. True, go back not that far in the past and a base Mustang was not a good car period, enthusiast or not, but I give credit to Ford for working to change and improve the entire Mustang range so you don’t need to invest a mortgage payment each month into a car to have a good experience.
I completely agree, as an ecoboost owner, I'm not only tired of people bashing this platform for no apparently reason other than it is easy to hate, but also the snobbish and ignorant remarks that completely discount the value that the ecoboost has as a sports car.
Prefer Supercharger (Whipple/ Roush), because at 38,000 miles i had Turbine Lockup within the Turbos at 82°+. This is caused by Thermo Variations consider locations of Turbos Ford mounts them below for lower center of gravity. Problem is they're right next to the very hot engine. Ricers know this and mount them up high close to heat extraction hood vents. To keep them cooler, and not for show. Now the Turbo Shell expands like a donut 🍩, while it's being baked the outside expansion is outwards vs. Inside expansion is inward the hole gets smaller. The Blades expansion is outward to be larger to hit the Shell. Locking up the Turbine Blades, and then add the Backflow from the Intake and Downpipe to it to spool the the Turbos more. My fuel mileage went from 32 mpg to 8-12 mpg. Glad for 2021 it'll have the GT500 engine package 5.0 V8
You forgot to Mention insurance policy doubles with vehicles, which 500 hp GT500 is practically at HyperCar status Wouldn't want to know how much more it would be to insure that beast. GT Premium, with Sport Package II Magneride Suspension, Brembo Breaks, Exhaust Cancelation. All performance of GT350, without the Snake Badges. Just ad the Whipple Super Charger or a Roush. I'll have GT500 power tuned to 720 hp for half the price and yes Recaro seats are available, and without HyperCar policy
Mario Monclova One of the problems that cant be resolved about the GT is the MT 82 transmission. The gt350 is worth it for the engine sound, and the transmission. You can do all of the above to a gt350. The insurance hike is worth it if you can afford a gt350. Those upgrades to a GT are nearing the range of a nice condition gt350 at around 50k
The Ecoboost is a better decision for 90% of drivers than the 5.0 or the GT imo, especially in the economic state of the U.S. right now. For the value it's incredible.
I bought a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost 10 speed automatic and love it. I bought a base model, with a few options, to keep it light and cheap. The MSRP was $28,865 and I paid $22,890, excluding taxes and DMV fees. I wasn't looking for an all out sports/performance car and all of the compromises they come with. I was looking for more of a budget GT car, to use as a daily driver. My car will run 13.20s in the 1/4 mile, stock. All I did was adjust the tire pressures. Also, it'll get 35mpg on the highway at 70 mph, with the 3:15 rear gears. It outperforms my 2006 Mustang GT automatic in every measure of performance. It ran 13.60s stock, and gets 27 mpg at 70 mph. If your wondering why you've never seen a Mustang Ecoboost run low 13s in the 1/4 mile, in a magazine road test, it's because the never test a base model automatic. They always test a premium and/or performance pack car. These cars are heavier. Also, alot of their added weight is in the bigger wheels, tires, and brakes, which is the worst place for acceleration. Further, if you have the 10 speed auto trans, you don't need rear gears bigger than the 3.15s. This trans has a 4.70 first gear. To get the benefit of bigger rear gears, you'd have to run wide drag radials or slicks. Also, the manual trans cars are easily 5 tenths slower in the 1/4 mile and 0-60. What other car, in this price range, will run low 13s, get 35mpg, has 4 seats, a large trunk, and is as comfortable? For you V-8 fanatics, I had 5 V-8 Mustangs before this one, and none were as quick, and all drank noticably more gas. Sure, the coyotes and factory supercharged cars are quicker, but they're also quite a bit more expensive and drink alot more gas. Anyway, I paid my money, made a choice I'm happy with, and don't begrudge V-8 owners for doing the same.
Me over here, 300 HP sounds amazing to me! the top of the line mustangs 15 years ago didn't have 300hp. I'm in North Dakota and only have a 2 car garage, so I can't daily a mustang half the year but I'd still love it.
Alright I’m gonna say it... production quality of these videos is something to be extremely proud of. The video/audio montage is spot on and is improving every single time. Great job!
"We drive everything, and to the regular person a 300hp rear wheel drive car is sporty, and it is fast" Yeah I drive a Prius, and 200-250hp rental cars feel fast, 70s sports cars were 10 sec+ 0-60
For that matter, people look at '60s musclecars through a rose-colored rear view mirror, and remember the over-inflated SAE Gross power ratings like they're gospel. In SAE Net, a 428 Cobra Jet had ~335hp, and now the 2.3L EcoBoost HPP has that.
I finally drove one and it's a great car. It's fast enough not to be slow, and it's safe enough that burnouts were possible and easy to control. Also if you live in the north, as you say , not everyone can drive a 5.0 liter coyote ((I've got a Cobra for that) so you get a sporty, two door, good look mustang with good handle characteristics. If you wanna be pompus head in the sky racers, this isn't the car for that, but it's also $10-15k cheaper, better MPG, lighter, and you day to day driving experience will be similar until you mash the gas pedal..and even then you can still have as much fun as you should be having on public roads
This car is a blessing! it's a manual RWD with very good mileage for the over 300hp and 350 torque. Ford has dramatically improved their interiors and the price is very appealing. I'm selling my 2013 c250 coupe to get a premium Ecoboost. Thank you for the review, I am totally sold!
Great review! Well done and well said. With the Focus gone as well as just about every other Ford car gone, the Mustang must wear MANY hats. With that kind of mandate in place, it is pretty impressive what the engineers at Ford were able to accomplish with all the trim levels of Mustangs when you think about it. I can also appreciate volume sellers like this make the GT350 and the GT500 possible. Again, job well done!
The In the shoppe segments are one of the best things about this channel. And I think talking to engineers or product managers about specific products is brilliant, because those guys are passionate about their product (versus some sales guy or something). This is the content I come here for!
Wow...this gave me a whole new perspective to the eco boost mustang. I could say I respect it a lot more now. It is the sole reason the GTs, GT350, and GT500 are still around. Thanks for the video.
When will people learn physics and know horsepower isn’t everything? I keep up with newer 5.0s (not the S550 or Shelby’s ) especially the dumbass 2 valves in a 300hp e36 1997 with NA long gears. Transmission, drivetrain and tires make just as much a difference as power.
One thing I think you guys are forgetting is the massive aftermarket potential. For a daily, throw a grand into wheels/tires/suspension, maybe another few hundred into intercooler and tune, and you've got 350 wheel and still keep the reliability and you'll have one of the best handling cars on the market.
I happen to like whipping mine. Bought used for a song. It's a daily thing that does cost a little less to run than the GT, even FBO. Recaros, breather mods, and a good tune. Its like a big goofy BRZ in 295 clown shoes.
@@stephenbello1081 It does have its weight issues, but I am ok with that. Some better tires, a familiarity with where its limits are, and how it arrives at those limits all help my coexistence with it. Up until last month I owned a seriously wicked up Fiesta ST, and still own an NA Miata as well as a Turbo swapped Volvo 144. The Mustang slots in below the NA and Fiesta in terms of nimble, but can still hustle while providing more daily comfort than both combined. The compromises were small enough to me that I was able to end a five year love affair with the ST, as a matter of fact. It licks the old Volvo in every way except gas-pump conversation starting. My advice is to find a pre-18 car with no options except the performance pack and recaros. Everything you want, nothing you don't. Since I am word salading a bit, one more paragraph before dragging ass out of bed to start the day. The S550, in eco, with performance pack, recaros, and the MT82 is not going to set the world on fire VS purpose built cars. I would know. But it's capabilities are far more potent for the everyday than many would expect if you take the time to learn how it behaves. It's compromises are far less relevant to the experience than you might imagine. And if you don't like the compromises it does have, the aftermarket solutions are more plentiful than prostitutes in an economic depression.
It is though, if you don't have money to blow, and you're used to driving normal cars that are less than 200hp, 300hp will feel fast to us, plus even faster after a tune.
There’s a guy out here who has one of these and has given it the full “ricer” treatment. He’s lowered it, spaced the wheels, opened up the grill, big spoiler, loud exhaust, and SUPER loud blow off valve. It always makes me kinda laugh because that guy loves his eco boost mustang but it sounds like a Japanese sports car lol
I think the base model is good for an enthusiast. You can mod it they way you want, change suspension and some engine tuning the way you want it and it will be a lot more fun. This was an excellent video guys!
My first new car was a 1989 Mustang 2.3L 4cyl that had 90 horsepower and 122 ft-lbs of torque. I drove that vehicle for 400,000 km (250,000 miles) over a decade. The 5.0L V-8 EFI had 225 horsepower and 300 ft-lbs of torque in 1989. I purchased my new 2019 Mustang ecoboost for $10,000 under MSRP in January of this year. It it fun to drive, turns heads, makes 310 horsepower and 350 ft-lbs of torque. I look forward to another 400,000 kilometres of touring with this red headed step child.
I owned a 2009 Corvette and a 2017 Challenger RT Scat Pack. I actually liked the Challenger better then the vett...BUT I spent loads more cash on those cars. I needed a 2nd car and I did not have the "I don't care how much this costs i want it attitude". So I purchased a 2021 Echo Boost Premium 10 speed automatic last week and this car is super fun and handles well. Its obviously not as fast out of the gate as my Vette or the Challenger, but I spent 1/2 the money....I love this little car! It is a lot of bang for the buck.
I would choose this one with the 10 speed automatic. No need for more on public roads. What good is a performance car if you lose you license all the time?
I really appreciate the ecoboost as a car enthusiast. It's much more obtainable than a GT. To mock the ecoboost because it isn't as powerful as the gt, is stupid.
“My only complaint”. You guys have complaining this whole video. This is not the GT or higher trims with the bigger engines and better suspensions. People who buy this version of the car already knows this. This is why the eco-boost version outsells the GT 2-1. I see more “regular” people drive this version that car rental fleets. I have a ‘19 velocity blues eco-boost and I have all kinds of fun in it. Because I’m not an adult kid anymore I’m gonna be 40 in 2 months. I have had V-8 cars in the past and that time has come and gone. I had my fun in those types of cars and now I’m more about practicality and insurance. Easily could have bought the GT, didn’t want to. I have way more fun just cruising and getting great gas mileage and complements on the car, than cornering hard and stomping on the gas and watching my money getting flushed down the toilet because I’m once a week putting gas in the tank. Regardless whatever your income level is. It’s all in what your preference is. But take it from me, if you aren’t a hooligan and know that this version doesn’t sound and drive like the GT, you will have just as much fun in this version just like the big V-8.
Even as a convertible the storage is excellent in this car. The combination of fuel economy, good seating position, power, and storage make this one of the best cars for a long road trip for two.
I have a 10speed 2019 ecoboost with upgraded intercooler and tune, it's a great daily sport car that won't cost you alot to run, you can go over 200+km/h without seeing the needle move
I spec'd out an Ecoboost Mustang with all the performance package/handling package and I think it was well over $40k for it. It's quite a lot for an Ecoboost.
yup, there's one for 45.5k near me - HIPO, Premium, Magneride, etc. Nego down to 37. That's still a LOT (too much) for the 4 banger considering every S550 needs about $2000 in chassis fixes to drastically improve the balance and feel of the car.
The 2013-2014 V6 was too good that they neutered it for the 2015 model and forward until they cancelled it. It even sounds better than the V8 when you put on the Roush cat-back exhaust on it.
I have had 8 Mustangs, all V8’s including a GT350. My ‘15 EB PP is the best I have owned, and since sold to my son. Why? Averages 24 MPG, excellent street engine, and handling with less weight over the nose. The car structure remains tight, has been very reliable, inexpensive to own and simply fun to drive. Do I want 2020 GT500? Hell Yea!
I think its the final drive gear that makes a big difference too. The low ratio diff in the PP cars really wake them up and they start to feel a lot more like GTs.
Two years after this video went live, and I'll add my two cents to boost this channels numbers... I like this car. My wife and I rented one of these late 2021; I believe it was the ecoboost premium convertible. Premium because it had leather seats, but since there was no window sticker it is hard to know for sure. Anyway, we had that car for a week and absolutely loved it. It cruised well, and very quite with the top up, had great fuel economy, and was quicker than any car I have owned. Like the guys in the video said, for a daily driver this is hard to beat. In fact, now that we are in the market for a replacement car (RIP 2022 post-infectious disease car market) we are seriously looking at picking up a low miles used one. We loved it for a solid week, would we love it for 5+ years??? Only time will tell.
I think that would be a great decision. I have a 2016 Mustang eco boost, bought it brand new and put on 45k miles with no problems and still have a lot of fun with it to this day.
For an EcoBoost I'd chose the 2.7 but for a turbocharged 4 cylinder in a pony car is okay it does sound pretty good on full acceleration and I love that you can hear the turbo from the outside compared to other manufacturers.
Appreciate the fact that you didn't put down buyers of this Mustang. I don't know how to drive stick, have a 60 mile commute (one way), and don't have disposable income. This would certainly scratch that itch for me and who knows when i retire, maybe i'll finally learn how to drive stick and get that high performance Mustang!
As a "normal" person.. I can see myself getting one of these just to brag that I have a Mustang. And as a final thought: If Jack goes away, I click away. He should be included on the Final Thoughts already.
I'd love to see you two review the same car, but with the performance and handling packages plus a tune. Torsen diff, 3.55 gears, firmer suspension and bigger sway bars, with more like touching 400HP at least? Has to feel like a totally different animal.
I can tell you. While I do not have the pp I have new coils, new intercooler, exhaust dp etc and a tune. I make a little under 400whp now and can gap gt's.
Just bought a 2020 Ecoboost Premium Convertible in Velocity blue today . I am 61 . this is my retirement car . I have had a lot of new cars , performance cars , fast motorcycles , and I love this car . its got the performance exhaust 20 inch wheels and nice seats . and gets up to 100mph quick enough . done that on the way home from the dealer . had to test it . . don 't need a race car . this car is fast enough . speed limits on the freeway is 70 , Whoop "s ! so screw the v8 and higher insurance . this is all I need.
I'm 73 and have a 2019 Kona Blue Ecoboost Premium six speed manual convertible and love it. Way more than enough power. I had a new 1986 GT liftback with its amazing 200hp and thought that was the cat's pajamas. I also have a 2011 V6 Premium convertible with manual....actually like it better than the Ecoboost, and it has 82,000 miles. I did install a new touch screen interface with Android, so it now has modern HVAC controls and infotainment system.
Loving my HPP HP. Great gas mileage when I drive it like a "normal" person but can't always find the strength to do so. 200 lbs lighter up front than a GT and just a BLAST to drive in any corner. Spec'd out and cheaper than the PP2 GT. No brainer. 7th Mustang I've owned and over half were GT's and this one will smoke all of them. Nuff said.
You're so lucky man to have gotten an HPP ! I got a Roush RS1 Ecoboost since the HPP isnt sold in my country. I had mine optionally fitted with the Turbonetics NX2 and the enlarged Honeywell/Garret intercooler. Its plenty fast but its always nicer having a full factory car.
Love my 2020 2.3L HPP with the handling package. I installed the Roush intake and it’s a blast to drive in the twisties. It’s amazing to me that you can get a Mustang with a pp2 package and magnaride for under 40k. Your video puts all the 4 bangers in the same bag and they are not all created equal. I personally would choose the HPP over the GT for balance and handling. IMHO.
Prefer Supercharger (Whipple/ Roush), because at 38,000 miles i had Turbine Lockup within the Turbos at 82°+. This is caused by Thermo Variations consider locations of Turbos Ford mounts them below for lower center of gravity. Problem is they're right next to the very hot engine. Ricers know this and mount them up high close to heat extraction hood vents. To keep them cooler, and not for show. Now the Turbo Shell expands like a donut 🍩, while it's being baked the outside expansion is outwards vs. Inside expansion is inward the hole gets smaller. The Blades expansion is outward to be larger to hit the Shell. Locking up the Turbine Blades, and then add the Backflow from the Intake and Downpipe to it to spool the the Turbos more. My fuel mileage went from 32 mpg to 8-12 mpg. Glad for 2021 it'll have the GT500 engine package 5.0 V8
The EcoBoost premium is the perfect daily driver for me. Not everyone wants to go faster than the speed limit. I wanted the Mustang looks and the better mpg.
My wife has an EcoBoost Mustang convertible as her daily driver. It’s pretty nice, actually, although the spring/shock/strut set-up is rough. Thirty mpg, reliable as can be, no problems at the 50,000 mile mark. When she bought it, it could not be ordered with a limited slip differential, which is just stupid. As a result it’s a handful to drive here in the northern clime during winter, unless streets are clear. Otherwise, nice car.
Not a single mention about modding, which is a huge plus for this car. The Cobb kit brings all the parts to work with each tune and you could really awaken this car if you wanted, $800 for a stage 1 with CAI or $1600 for stage 2. The first one is self-install, the 2nd stage you'll need someone to install a radiatior. 3rd stage gets you a cat-back (slides right in) for another 1k and at that point pulling closer to 400hp. This is somewhat safe since the tunes provided are designed for those parts but the people who've reviewed them noticed a huge difference in how it pulls (you get a taller rev curve).
As a 2015 Mustang GT owner in the San Francisco peninsula, it still surprises me to see many current gen Mustangs with baby seats in the back! Affordable & practical performance indeed.
The aftermarket is where this mustang shines. Mild mods and an e30 tune has gotten this car into the 11s on stock turbo in the previous gen (15-17) EcoBoost Mustang. I'd assume even better with the 10r80 trans in the 2018+. I own a 2015 6r80 with boltons and currently working through my 93oct tune with PD tuning, then it's on to e30! It's already pretty potent and light!
when did they switch to the 10 speed? I commented above, but the 10speed makes this car drive terribly. As an owner of the previous trans, you should test drive one, it really shocked me. I think a 6 speed would suit it so much better, or a 7 speed with a really tall 7th gear.
I know most people don’t like the ecoboost but I love the idea that I could get a mustang with a turbo four. I’m more of a tuner guy but the s550 mustang is gorgeous and I just think this car is awesome because I can get both things that I want. Small turbo engine, beautiful mustang styling.
I AM a driving enthusiast and have owned 3 BMW M Roadsters, a flawless s2000, an e46 M3 and dozens of other nice cars. I have also owned a 2016 mustang eco boost that was bone stock minus 19” wheels. I can tell you this ecoboost is actually quite fun and has serious performance. I would say the number one drawback is that it does not have a good exhaust sound. Other than that, these two are WAY Off on this review.
My main take away from this video is that I should be super thankful for the base model because its the reason I have my 5.0! I had never considered that. Keep up the great content guys!
This has always been the formula for Mustangs. They've always built a lot more of the four and six cylinder versions than the higher performance versions.
People downplay the Ecoboost....but IRS suspension, drive modes, 310 hp / 350 torque, and 5 sec 0-60 times were Ferrari numbers not that long ago. it's no slouch. An Ecoboost with a larger aftermarket Turbo, intercooler, and tune will smoke a GT (you can actually buy the upgrades directly from Ford). The manual Trans is SLOWER than the 10 spd auto and the paddle shifters are the real deal (it won't force shift). You need a DCT trans to match the 10 spd auto performance. I bought my 2020 Ecoboost Premium Convertible for $42,850 (loaded) and it was $5000 MORE than the 2020 GT it was sitting next to in the showroom. So I don't know how "value priced" it is as you say. I did buy the Ecoboost because I daily drive a lot (200+ miles a day), and didn't want the 16 mpg. This car requires 93 octane to get the most MPG and Power (around $50 to fill the tank at current prices). I made the mistake of putting 87 octane in the car the first 2 weeks I had it. It lost 20+ hp and I was only getting 18 mpg mixed driving. With 93 the power came back and I get around 23 mpg mixed driving. I honestly never thought I'd see (let alone own) a Mustang with all the performance options, leather everything, Bliss, collision avoidance, automatic cruise (ADAS), navigation, and a wifi hotspot. If you're in the market for a Mustang convertible then buying a GT just doesn't make sense. This is my 4th Mustang. I've owned both the GT and Ecoboost. (I also currently own a Camaro and a Corvette. - they both stay parked because I don't like them that much. I HATE the Camaro with a white hot passion, and the Corvette is incredibly hard to park in the city. Gave the Camaro to my wife.)
I watched this the other night. Then reviewed the 2015 video, and watched the current eco-boost video again this afternoon. I'm a senior and different demographic from Sg, but I was very sport car motivated during my younger years, and I have competition experience, (so I am a car guy). I'm looking for a comfortable, touring type, GT car with year round capabilities. I don't have room nor do I want the cost of two vehicles, so the eco-boost Mustang manual trans with LSD (for winter) looks like a good fit for me. I initially thought Sg's review was negative, but after viewing it a second time, I agree with most of his statements. I want a manual trans because I'm still a boy-racer at heart. Plus 300 net hp is A LOT compared to what I drove from the 1960's to 2000+. This car looks like a good fit for me.
It has 300hp, rwd, and comes with an optional 6 speed manual. If it had a Japanese badge on it this car would be legendary.
Unpopular opinion: The Ecoboost Mustang is a modern S-Chassis
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American 4 banger sports cars (ecoboost mustang/LTG camaro) are EXTREMELY underrated. These are cars that offer better bang for your buck compared to Civic Type R, Golf R, WRX, JCW, V4 A90 Supra, Audi TT and many more but because they don’t have a Japanese badge no one gives a sh1t about them.
I don't expect this engine to last reliably over 150,000 miles
@@quentonmillstid850 As a ford lube tech, ive seen many many ecoboosts well over 200k miles
Whats the highest 5.0 2015+ mileage you seen ??@@hunterboone3001
300 hp used to be v8 rating
@Peyton Brimmer yeah maybe in the 60's
where 4 cylinders were 40hp
@@mickeydee3595 Dude the 2010 Mustang GT was only pushing out 310 Horsepower lol
@@altonwilliams7273 yeah thats a mustang lol
Ive got a 2009 Commodore SS (pontiax G8 for guys in the states) and that had 355hp on a very conservative tune from the factory.
All these new high strung 4 cylinders will be fucked after 100,000km.
@@mickeydee3595 ok but this is literally a 4 cylinder that has the word Eco in the name
@@Dragon228833 and?
It’s funny that this 4-cylinder Mustang has more power than plenty of V8 Mustangs of the past. I think you guys are pretty jaded from driving so many high performance cars.
They are but they also admit that fact many times.
As someone who owns a GT350 they are also quite chonky and thicc. 300hp goes much further in a fox body.
Comes with the career I imagine. If I was driving and coming out with *interesting* reviews for dozens upon dozens of cars..I'd be jaded too
And the performance is about the same too, this car is pretty much on par with the '05 GT as far as acceleration.
I mean 300hp on a 3600 lb car is a little meh compared to the foxbody which was around 2800.
Power is just a number
Honestly, this is enough. Rear Wheel drive, manual transmission, and sub 400 Horsepower -- this is something you can actually drive hard. You can learn, you can handle, and you can daily this easily. You cannot drive a, say, GT350 all out on normal roads. I like this :)
problem is its a ford the king of unreliability...... No car should have ANY problems before 100,000 especially in modern day. DONT BUY MANUAL MUSTANGS they are trash. Ford is being sued right now because the manual mustangs all broke
i found that i had to exert more effort with the steering on a 5.0 when going through the twisties than with this ecoboost. the front on the 5.0 was quite heavier, like wrangling a mustang. i drive the ecoboost as a fun beater car, but can floor it and get power when passing in the mountains.
300 HP is little but not enough to say sub 400 😉
@@acsecond I've been driving mustangs for years with no issues. The trick is to remember that you don't have to beat the hell out of your car everyday, but that applies for any car.
Thanks thats so true, the best car to learn in is a slow car you can drive fast. Once you comfortable you can work your way up to more dangerous cars like the GT. That cars fire 🔥
The fact that theres 310hp RWD IRS car for 27k, I'm happy.
S.H Kim bingo
Exactly, haters can hate all they want but, for less than 30k you have yourself a great looking car, is plenty fast (especially if you pump 93 octane), RWD with IRS...whats not to like?!
Yup, if they just changed the body slightly and renamed it, it wouldn’t get trashed by typical haters.
MIBASO88 it’s a hell of a deal for the money, the interior can be rattle hell but it’s still pretty nice especially on the premiums
Michael Buffington I really am hoping that for the s650 that will be coming out in 2022, they will do it a favor and rename it the ST....I agree that ecoboost is kinda “meh”...
Here we are in 2020 and a RWD 6MT 300hp coupe is considered low performance.
Well yeah because now there making 800 horsepower cars that idiots buy because of there ego. When In reality most of them will never use the full potential of the car they just wanna look “kewl” 🤷🏻♂️
The thirst for power is out of control imo. It's why the Germans and other power hungry manufacturers have reliability issues
@@ZACH_95_If you don't do track driving, anything over 400whp is overkill.
Especially, low 5 secs 0-60. That's extremely quick to me. You'll definitely get alot of people from a dig.
@@ZACH_95_ their*
These built-in timestamps are clutch
it's what separates gods amongst men
Julian C. Geese among men lol
So sad that many ecoboost mustang owners get laughed out of their car into a v8. Car scene is toxic.
I got a EcoBoost, and I couldn't care less about the insecurities of V8 drivers 😄
In fact when I get question what engine it has I tell them it's "V4"
ben LOL
Robert Smith No they are not. I never got a single bad word on my Ecoboost, only compliments.
Those toxic people only exist on the internet, and they are mostly kid hwo never had any nice car whatsoever.
They are doing them a favor.
Only on the internet forums maybe, it’s not like Kia Stinger owners ripping the badges off their car kind of problem
we need more montages of core buying demographics
2021 Chrysler Pacifica Review
*Montage of depressed men in business attire, pregnant women, kids playing with dogs*
The shot of "Karen" was perfect!
More Karens!
forgot to add a pic of my auntie lilly
As a WRX owner, I choked on my vape once they showed the montage
You two are the wine snobs of the automotive world. To hear you admit its qualities says a lot for this Mustang.
It has one quality, fuel economy.
Jonxthxn you forgot cost lol
Yup they were surprisingly reasonable in this video lol
Their not snobs, they're realist, they say what's good and what's bad
Excusesgeese ends up liking everything. Hence the name ....
Just be thankful Ford hasn't replaced this with another Soulless Utility Vehicle...yet.
"Utility" lol you mean another jacked up tall station wagon with skid plates and plastic bumper guards to make them look like offroaders and raise the price up by 10k over it's car equivalent
@Jack Wells Well, the Mach E, yes and no. Was being a little sarcastic given Ford has gutted their car lines in North America.
Ford isn’t the only brand doing this. Lol 👏🏻
67tomcat They won’t as long as there’s a strong market for it. Honestly,,, if the Mustang can survive the dark days of the 1980s wean everything was under 250hp and in danger of being replaced by a Japanese econobox I’m pretty sure it’ll survive the SUV craze. The American market is an evolving door.
@@EricFortuneJr. The only reason they survived was because of the chicken tax and the 1983 tariffs on motorcycles and dirt bikes as well a ban on diesel imports. In the end those tarrifs actually benefited the Europeans and Japanese because people still bought their cars over domestics at a higher premium which they otherwise wouldn't have had to pay because of the tariffs.
When you consider that the average driver is really not that good at driving, I would hope that they wouldn't get into something with much more performance than this. I think this car is plenty good for most drivers out there.
So true. If you want little bit more horsepower than 86/BRZ but want to learn the dynamics of RWD, get this instead of used GT or SS
best comment on here
@@SHKim-xr1jl Totally unrelated but I absolutly cannot stand the 86 🤢
Most of the dopes in TH-cam videos crashing Mustangs into trees or crowds while showing off should have bought one of these instead.
Good point and oh, so painfully true.
300 hp, 6 speed manual, IRS, and in a well designed coupe that can hit 0-60 in the mid 5’s? Damn impressive daily driver. This was Porsche turbo numbers a long time ago. Technology is wonderful for the normal consumer. Nicely done Ford.
I think its a good thing that Ford make some sort of affordable basic fun car. Good review, thanks
yeah, now that the focus RS is dead.. Europe at least has the brilliant little Fiesta ST
SRS Productions yeah i got the fiesta ST it is a little funny Thing😆👍👍
People keep bashing on it but it's about the same price with the brz. Compared to what else is on the market the 4 banger stanger is a good car.
Yep. For what it is, it's a bargain.
The Vibe exactly
As a person who’s 33 and when I was 16 the base Mustang had a 4 spd auto, platform from 1979 and a V-6 that origin dated to 1969 it’s amazing how far the base model has come! I had that V6 Mustang and it was bad at the time.
Lol back when I was 18yrs old in 2007 I had a 2004 Mustang V6 with 190hp and a 4spd auto, I thought it was the greatest thing ever until I raced a toyota mimivan and got gaptized 😂
When I had SVT Focus way back when and it was in for service the dealer only had manual V6 Mustang to loan me to drive. The manual in today's car makes that manual in the old V6 like working a pick handle in bucket of rocks.
@@mr.boostang2064 don't beat yourself up toyota seinnas are fast as hell for a van
Jake Kennedy
Exactly, i was just online a few days ago looking at the specs of the 60s mustang K-code which was the high performance model back than, and this ecoboost puts out more power and torque and here alot of people are saying that its slow.
Alot of people have become spoiled over the years with these 400+ horsepower v8s. Im from the old school and this ecoboost has more horsepower than most v8s from the 1960s-2009, hell ive even driven an ecoboost on a few occasions and im impressed by it.
Its funny that not too long ago this ecoboost wouldve been a high performance car with its 310 and 350 pound feet of torque, but now alot of people are considering this slow, my how times have changed, and people are becoming more and more spoiled.
I lost it when they said daily driver and showed a CrossCabrio.
Future 7 figure classic
Good to know it wasn't just me.
One of the ugliest cars made
Thought it was a CrossTurdio
This sucks as an enthusiast car? I didn’t really understand that point. The enthusiast community behind these are pretty big.
these guys talk out their asses constantly.
These guys own $60,000+ sports cars, and are used to driving them. It's hard for them to come back to earth.
As far as I can tell, more enthusiasts drive the ecoboost than the GT. GT, GT350 seem to be mostly owned by old people, or rich college kids that just want to show off.
I’d recommend the RCR review of the ecoboost as it touches base on the whole “it’s not a sports car since it’s not a v8” statement. He jokes at the idea that people shun this car and ignore the potential it has. I know it’s all fun and games to knock on the 4 banger but some people really hate this thing for that one reason.
@@mirotvorez1134 Like I said in my earlier post on this comment page.....By ditching the good but unloved Cyclone V6 for the Ecoboost we have young new carbuyers/enthusiasts who can take the money they saved on car payments and insurance premiums that would have to have paid for a Coyote equipped Mustang then buy an aftermarket turbocharger and a tune and easily get GT 350 levels of horsepower and torque . Again now ALL Mustangs are NOW in fact "performance cars" whatever the trim level or engine option.Esp. when Ford offers the PP1 and PP2 suspension packages on the EcoBoost Stangs. Being that the Ecoboost has an MSRP of $26,670 within the budget of a lot of young car buyer/enthusiasts"
I have a veloster N with performance pack, and I autocross/track it almost every weekend. I can definitely see the appeal of something like this. For autocross, I think this car with the handling package and manual trans would be a TON of fun. I think I'd actually consider one of these down the road if I'm looking for a rwd car. To be honest, I don't think a lot of people need much more than 300 hp. I'm glad Ford makes an entry level mustang.
What's more, I'd be willing to bet that if Ford killed this model, EVERYONE would be complaining and saying "wow I can't believe the cheapest model is the GT, what was Ford thinking"
Exactly, people never know what they want untill something is gone. Now a days most people want a 700 horsepower car that they won’t drive to its full potential they just buy them to look “kewl”
@@ZACH_95_ yep, exactly! 300hp is enough that it can actually be mostly enjoyed every day when you drive. And it's also not too much that you're afraid to take it on a track/autocross. I think anywhere from 250 to 400hp is perfect for a daily. If you are an experienced driver with a lot of seat time on track (like Savagegeese) then I can see how 300hp would seem boring. For a regular person looking for a daily/track novice looking for an entry level car, I think cars like this have plenty of power and fit the bill almost perfectly.
DylaN W And when people like us say shit like this people will call us a pussy cause “wE CAnT afFoRd ThE gT” or “We cAnT HAnDlE a fAsT caR” No it’s just reality. Most people will never drive the car that fast and to its true potential, I will never need anything over the power of the GT and for a daily I personally wouldnt want the Gt I’d go high performance ecoboost. 🤷🏻♂️
There are two ecoboost engines available. There is this one in the video with 310hp and an optional 330hp engine with larger turbo. The sport package and engine with the larger turbo would be my choice.
@@Dialysisforever I agree, sounds like that would be a super fun combo!
Welcome to another episode of jack giving us good info and geese complaining about every aspect.
I was able to sample one of these EcoBoost Mustangs last summer when my wife and I took a trip to Colorado. We rented a convertible, and had an excellent time driving through the mountains, down to Colorado Springs and back to Denver, to Breckinridge, etc. The car was delightful. As a GT it was hard to beat, save for the smallish trunk. My daily driver is a Fiesta ST, which is huge fun, but a bit intense for my wife. The Mustang proved to be a really nice all-around package, with good handling and a very livable interior. It left a very favorable impression.
And the turbo excels in high altitudes.
I just rented one of these two weeks ago and thought it was pretty awful. Completely because of the 10 speed auto trans. It was so un-smooth to drive. It wanted to shift into second 5 feet off the line and by the time you've hit 10mph it's shifting into 3rd. I was driving the winding roads of oregon and it would constantly hunt/downshift so keeping a smooth consistent throttle was difficult because you only needed a little bit of throttle, but it drops three gears and all of sudden it lurches and tries to take off on you. Manual mode likes to cancel itself too quickly, and the manual shifts are too harsh/crisp for a comfort mode (although I'd love it if I was in sport). The suspension was pretty good, but still we were pretty tired by the time we'd park it after 3 hours on the road. Power was great. Sound of the engine was good. Wind buffetting with the windows down was really bad (but you had a convertible so maybe you didn't notice!). I'd totally take one, but give me a 7 speed where its a 6 speed with a highway cruising 7th gear.
@@Krautastic I think you made the mistake to drive it in “D” and not in “S”. Big mistake... In “S” and “S+” the shift points are different, and most importantly, if you use flappy-pads, it will stay in manual and don’t switch back to auto on its own. I exclusively use “D” only in traffic jams, or under 30mph in the suburbs.
Never judge the driving experience of this car based on “D” mode...
@@juzoli the quiet mode and track mode are both excellent in this car, better than both the D and S, S+
Eighteen minutes of two dudes tip-toeing around validation of a normal Mustang. Nice.
do we like it? no we don't. will you like it? yeah, probably, i guess, you have to, if you are the core buying demographic. do we all like lollipops? basically.
Mark gets so visibly depressed when he has to get in a mustang, he stress eats a family pack of raw hot dogs that night
hot dogs come cooked
@@Ari--d Well looks like we found "that" guy.
@@Ari--d you've never had good hot dogs
i survived off raw hot dogs as a kid...slice them up lime, salt, tapatio.
@@Ari--d Mark only buys raw dogs.
My how times have changed. I remember a buddy getting heat for buying a 4AT four banger Fox body, but it was a huge upgrade from his 3AT Tempo with whatever wheezing four banger it had.
Now we have 300HP four bangers with 10 speeds. Crazy.
I had a T-Bird Turbo Coupe back in the day and remember enjoying it as a fun, comfortable, daily-driver alternative to the Mustang. This stock Ecoboost now offers about twice as much hp/torque, improved fuel economy, and rides/handles better with IRS. It's probably a lot more dependable also.
Prefer Supercharger (Whipple/ Roush), because at 38,000 miles i had Turbine Lockup within the Turbos at 82°+. This is caused by Thermo Variations consider locations of Turbos Ford mounts them below for lower center of gravity. Problem is they're right next to the very hot engine. Ricers know this and mount them up high close to heat extraction hood vents. To keep them cooler, and not for show. Now the Turbo Shell expands like a donut 🍩, while it's being baked the outside expansion is outwards vs. Inside expansion is inward the hole gets smaller. The Blades expansion is outward to be larger to hit the Shell. Locking up the Turbine Blades, and then add the Backflow from the Intake and Downpipe to it to spool the the Turbos more.
My fuel mileage went from
32 mpg to 8-12 mpg. Glad for 2021 it'll have the GT500 engine package 5.0 V8
I’m used to driving Civics and Camrys. The Ecoboost felt amazing for me when I tested it. 300hp for a daily driver is incredible.
What I absolutely love about the S550 Mustang's present lineup is that truly lives up to the hype of the original 1964 1/2 model. Every trim level is a legitimate performance car no matter how you slice it. Want a good momentum canyon road/track day hero to compete against Miatas? You got it is the form of the EcoBoost Mustang. Want a classic Street/Strip Musclecar warrior .You got in the form of the Mustang GT. Want something to compete against the rich Euro-snobs in their Porsche 911 GT3s on the road course ? You go it in the GT 350/GT 350R . Want a supercar that you can drive everyday? Well you know, the GT 500.
By ditching the good but unloved Cyclone V6 for the Ecoboost we have young new carbuyers/enthusiasts who can take the money they saved on car payments and insurance premiums that would have to have paid for a Coyote equipped Mustang then buy an aftermarket turbocharger and a tune and easily get GT 350 levels of horsepower and torque . Again now ALL Mustangs are NOW in fact "performance cars" whatever the trim level or engine option.Esp. when Ford offers the PP1 and PP2 suspension packages on the EcoBoost Stangs. Being that the Ecoboost has an MSRP of $26,670 within the budget of a lot of young car buyer/enthusiasts.
@Frank White WTF you mean by that???
5.O GT driver here and Im thankful these are around, I couldn't have my Mustang without them. Mach1 here I come....
That's a lot of money to pay for a a Mustang PP2/Bullet with some stickers
@@kevinnorwood7355 different transmission, all the coolers that you need for track day, which PP cars lacked. Suspension and aero improved the upon PP cars, we will see how much makes a difference soon. Performance Mustangs are expensive now, no doubt about it, but thE Mach 1 is way more than badges, anyone who really tracks knows its the little things that add up. The lack of diff cooling on PP cars is a joke and everyone knows it. Like i said we will see, and if its not up to par people like myself will not buy, simple as that.
ThomisticAmerican13FOX the Mustang PP2 has aero on it to give enough downforce on track days. An oil cooler is cheaper then buying a MACH 1. Where I DO give Ford credit is using the gearbox from the Gt350 all Mustangs should have that gearbox.
This is exactly the car I always wanted and I am absolutely the target demographic. I'm a guy in my mid 30s who makes enough money to enjoy this as my daily driver and it seems like a Saturn V rocket compared to the dumpster fire sedans and used hybrids I've had my entire broke-ass life haha. I don't really want more power than it has and the handling is super fun. It's gorgeous compared to everything else in its price range, too. The back seat is exactly perfect for my Husky/Shepherd mix. If you're looking at the 86/FRS/BRZ, look at this instead.
Funny, because it's between a GR86 or EcoBoost Mustang. Both have pros and cons for me.
@@klausb1758 The higher cost and reliability problems was the main reason I ordered the new BRZ over the ecoboost mustang. Both are great cars, but the Brz/86 is cheaper to maintain and service.
@@eyecontrol4900 I agree. I just don't wanna pay premium gas prices. Looking at a Miata now, but I feel cramped in them. There's honestly nothing on the market I really like. It's going to be a secondary/weekend car. So, I may not even get anything.
When I got my driver's license, the 4-cylinder Mustang had just been upgraded to 105hp, and you could let a teenager drive one.
The V8 had 205hp and 280 ft-lbs, and good sense said it was a grownup car. Immature and unskilled drivers wrecked them regularly.
Twenty years later the V6 had 280 ft-lbs.
Now a 4-banger Mustang starts at 320hp and 350 ft-lbs... Damn.
and it's such a "dog". I find this review kinda shit.
I had one of these as a rental while my truck was in for warranty repairs recently and I was impressed with the performance that you get for the money.
These ecoboost mustangs are probably as fast (if not faster) than the 4.6 GT mustangs of a decade ago. Pretty impressive, and probably more so if you put a tune or intake/exhaust on it
Clearly I am a slow driver but when did a 300 hp, RWD and manual coupe become a little boring?
i know right? the guy in the passenger seat looks disgusted. and it's 310 hp/350 ftlbs but i dont think they ever say that. just 300 hp.
Steven Walton yes, and most people that buy that gt500 or gt350 will never drive it to it’s full potential, some will most wont. 🤷🏻♂️
señor pepper because it’s less than 300 at the wheel goober.
When it has to push 3500 lbs of car. That’s when.
Herpil and... the high performance eco goes to 60 in 4.6 seconds, it’s not that far off from the Gt, and they have the same governed top speed. Most everyday people this is plenty of power.
It sounds a though this is a great momentum car. And, at 3500-3600 lbs., there's a lot of it. My only wish is for Ford to shrink-wrap the Mustang - lose a little of the girth.
But really, at the price, a rear wheel drive , manual shift car is remarkable.
Yeah I didn't realize how big the car was until I bought it
Got me a 2019 Bullitt in Feb. Of course a lot different price range and yes, I don't use all the 480hp yet, but it's such a fun car to have for a daily driver!
It's a comfy cruiser tho
Agreed but it's only going to get worse. The next Mustang is rumored to be based on the Explorer chassis.
@@jmahtab gonna be a boat like a charger, eh?
These guys talk about car enthusiasts like poeple who receive exotic press cars every week.
That's one of the things I really hate about car reviewers. They get so spoiled and jaded from driving insanely expensive, top-of-the-line cars, and they forget that most people feel lucky just to have something that runs and gets them to work/school.
I never imagined you guys would praise a simple "sport car". This was refreshing!
I appreciate the high performance offered by the GT or the GT500 but in the end every financial decision comes with an opportunity cost. No matter your financial position a $95,000 GT500 (because you can’t buy the base GT500, that would not show your true enthusiast passion) and you finance it for 60/MO at 0% that’s $1,583/MO and I left out cost for taxes, tags etc. At the end of the video, you do mention some more positive notes but the disdain for this car is palpable. True, go back not that far in the past and a base Mustang was not a good car period, enthusiast or not, but I give credit to Ford for working to change and improve the entire Mustang range so you don’t need to invest a mortgage payment each month into a car to have a good experience.
Dude, I so agree with you, so much, you almost need a TH-cam channel dude !!
I completely agree, as an ecoboost owner, I'm not only tired of people bashing this platform for no apparently reason other than it is easy to hate, but also the snobbish and ignorant remarks that completely discount the value that the ecoboost has as a sports car.
Prefer Supercharger (Whipple/ Roush), because at 38,000 miles i had Turbine Lockup within the Turbos at 82°+. This is caused by Thermo Variations consider locations of Turbos Ford mounts them below for lower center of gravity. Problem is they're right next to the very hot engine. Ricers know this and mount them up high close to heat extraction hood vents. To keep them cooler, and not for show. Now the Turbo Shell expands like a donut 🍩, while it's being baked the outside expansion is outwards vs. Inside expansion is inward the hole gets smaller. The Blades expansion is outward to be larger to hit the Shell. Locking up the Turbine Blades, and then add the Backflow from the Intake and Downpipe to it to spool the the Turbos more.
My fuel mileage went from
32 mpg to 8-12 mpg. Glad for 2021 it'll have the GT500 engine package 5.0 V8
You forgot to Mention insurance policy doubles with vehicles, which 500 hp
GT500 is practically at HyperCar status
Wouldn't want to know how much more it would be to insure that beast.
GT Premium, with Sport Package II
Magneride Suspension, Brembo Breaks, Exhaust Cancelation. All performance of GT350, without the Snake Badges. Just ad the Whipple Super Charger or a Roush. I'll have GT500 power tuned to 720 hp for half the price and yes Recaro seats are available, and without HyperCar policy
Mario Monclova One of the problems that cant be resolved about the GT is the MT 82 transmission. The gt350 is worth it for the engine sound, and the transmission. You can do all of the above to a gt350. The insurance hike is worth it if you can afford a gt350. Those upgrades to a GT are nearing the range of a nice condition gt350 at around 50k
The Ecoboost is a better decision for 90% of drivers than the 5.0 or the GT imo, especially in the economic state of the U.S. right now. For the value it's incredible.
It's for gentlemen not hooligans.
Y'all bois are crushing it with the rapid fire content.
I bought a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost 10 speed automatic and love it. I bought a base model, with a few options, to keep it light and cheap. The MSRP was $28,865 and I paid $22,890, excluding taxes and DMV fees. I wasn't looking for an all out sports/performance car and all of the compromises they come with. I was looking for more of a budget GT car, to use as a daily driver. My car will run 13.20s in the 1/4 mile, stock. All I did was adjust the tire pressures. Also, it'll get 35mpg on the highway at 70 mph, with the 3:15 rear gears. It outperforms my 2006 Mustang GT automatic in every measure of performance. It ran 13.60s stock, and gets 27 mpg at 70 mph. If your wondering why you've never seen a Mustang Ecoboost run low 13s in the 1/4 mile, in a magazine road test, it's because the never test a base model automatic. They always test a premium and/or performance pack car. These cars are heavier. Also, alot of their added weight is in the bigger wheels, tires, and brakes,
which is the worst place for acceleration. Further, if you have the 10 speed auto trans, you don't need rear gears bigger than the 3.15s. This trans has a 4.70 first gear. To get the benefit of bigger rear gears, you'd have to run wide drag radials or slicks. Also, the manual trans cars are easily 5 tenths slower in the 1/4 mile and 0-60. What other car, in this price range, will run low 13s, get
35mpg, has 4 seats, a large trunk, and is as comfortable?
For you V-8 fanatics, I had 5 V-8 Mustangs before this one, and none were as quick, and all drank noticably more gas. Sure, the coyotes and factory supercharged cars are quicker, but they're also quite a bit more expensive and drink alot more gas. Anyway, I paid my money, made a choice I'm happy with,
and don't begrudge V-8 owners for doing the same.
Me over here, 300 HP sounds amazing to me! the top of the line mustangs 15 years ago didn't have 300hp. I'm in North Dakota and only have a 2 car garage, so I can't daily a mustang half the year but I'd still love it.
Alright I’m gonna say it... production quality of these videos is something to be extremely proud of. The video/audio montage is spot on and is improving every single time. Great job!
"We drive everything, and to the regular person a 300hp rear wheel drive car is sporty, and it is fast"
Yeah I drive a Prius, and 200-250hp rental cars feel fast, 70s sports cars were 10 sec+ 0-60
For that matter, people look at '60s musclecars through a rose-colored rear view mirror, and remember the over-inflated SAE Gross power ratings like they're gospel.
In SAE Net, a 428 Cobra Jet had ~335hp, and now the 2.3L EcoBoost HPP has that.
I drive a 170hp Golf 1.8t and my sisters 273hp CX-9 feels fast.
@@ilovemanunited6179 I rented one of these Mustangs and it is pretty easy to do burnouts if you play with the settings.
I finally drove one and it's a great car. It's fast enough not to be slow, and it's safe enough that burnouts were possible and easy to control. Also if you live in the north, as you say , not everyone can drive a 5.0 liter coyote ((I've got a Cobra for that) so you get a sporty, two door, good look mustang with good handle characteristics. If you wanna be pompus head in the sky racers, this isn't the car for that, but it's also $10-15k cheaper, better MPG, lighter, and you day to day driving experience will be similar until you mash the gas pedal..and even then you can still have as much fun as you should be having on public roads
There are some who enjoy owning and modding the underdog.
And then it blows up and they wish they got a GT lol.
This car is a blessing! it's a manual RWD with very good mileage for the over 300hp and 350 torque. Ford has dramatically improved their interiors and the price is very appealing. I'm selling my 2013 c250 coupe to get a premium Ecoboost. Thank you for the review, I am totally sold!
Great review! Well done and well said. With the Focus gone as well as just about every other Ford car gone, the Mustang must wear MANY hats. With that kind of mandate in place, it is pretty impressive what the engineers at Ford were able to accomplish with all the trim levels of Mustangs when you think about it. I can also appreciate volume sellers like this make the GT350 and the GT500 possible. Again, job well done!
The In the shoppe segments are one of the best things about this channel. And I think talking to engineers or product managers about specific products is brilliant, because those guys are passionate about their product (versus some sales guy or something). This is the content I come here for!
Does it mean that all mustangs of the past (gts and even gt500) that don’t even reach 300 hp are horrible? I just don’t get all the hate!
Intro music sounded like granturismo so good
The intro music is awesome - if anyone can identify it, please do post the song name.
Keppel Skies - Through The Static
@@Astke my man
@@Astke I thought I heard on a podcast he used to also make the music for the episodes. I thought that was crazy.
Same thought lol
Wow...this gave me a whole new perspective to the eco boost mustang. I could say I respect it a lot more now. It is the sole reason the GTs, GT350, and GT500 are still around.
Thanks for the video.
"nobody drives those everyday..."
Me, driving my GT everyday, "oops"
Bruh, same. Lol
Same bro 74k miles on the dash on my s550
In 03 gt 😓
GT is still the regular car version just with a bigger motor, he meant GT350s, GT500s etc
My 07 GT only makes 300 HP and has a 5 spd... would probably be gapped by an ecoboost 😒 at least I sound better
Your gt is 13 years old. I would not worry about it. If 13 years went by and ford did not create faster cars that be the real disappointment.
Probably? 😂
728 Autos driver mod 😏
But you have gt v8 power
When will people learn physics and know horsepower isn’t everything? I keep up with newer 5.0s (not the S550 or Shelby’s ) especially the dumbass 2 valves in a 300hp e36 1997 with NA long gears. Transmission, drivetrain and tires make just as much a difference as power.
One thing I think you guys are forgetting is the massive aftermarket potential. For a daily, throw a grand into wheels/tires/suspension, maybe another few hundred into intercooler and tune, and you've got 350 wheel and still keep the reliability and you'll have one of the best handling cars on the market.
I happen to like whipping mine. Bought used for a song. It's a daily thing that does cost a little less to run than the GT, even FBO. Recaros, breather mods, and a good tune. Its like a big goofy BRZ in 295 clown shoes.
Haha, I love that description.
The 1700 kg Kerb weight wasn't brought up in the review. Does that much weight intrude into the drive experience?
@@stephenbello1081 It does have its weight issues, but I am ok with that. Some better tires, a familiarity with where its limits are, and how it arrives at those limits all help my coexistence with it. Up until last month I owned a seriously wicked up Fiesta ST, and still own an NA Miata as well as a Turbo swapped Volvo 144. The Mustang slots in below the NA and Fiesta in terms of nimble, but can still hustle while providing more daily comfort than both combined. The compromises were small enough to me that I was able to end a five year love affair with the ST, as a matter of fact. It licks the old Volvo in every way except gas-pump conversation starting.
My advice is to find a pre-18 car with no options except the performance pack and recaros. Everything you want, nothing you don't.
Since I am word salading a bit, one more paragraph before dragging ass out of bed to start the day.
The S550, in eco, with performance pack, recaros, and the MT82 is not going to set the world on fire VS purpose built cars. I would know. But it's capabilities are far more potent for the everyday than many would expect if you take the time to learn how it behaves. It's compromises are far less relevant to the experience than you might imagine. And if you don't like the compromises it does have, the aftermarket solutions are more plentiful than prostitutes in an economic depression.
Comparing a huge, overweight moostang to a BRZ 😂
@@Pube83 Well, I did say big and goofy. I didn't say 1:1 ✌🏻
No line-lock burnout?
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
if you need a button to help you do a burnout you're doing it wrong 🤣
It didn’t have the performance pack maybe because of that
@@VerryJerry90 from 2018 onwards all Mustangs came with line-lock as a standard feature. Even the rentals at Hertz have it.
Prince Charming gotcha
I have and mines a base
“Honestly, this is enough”
All the comments. 😂
It is though, if you don't have money to blow, and you're used to driving normal cars that are less than 200hp, 300hp will feel fast to us, plus even faster after a tune.
There’s a guy out here who has one of these and has given it the full “ricer” treatment. He’s lowered it, spaced the wheels, opened up the grill, big spoiler, loud exhaust, and SUPER loud blow off valve. It always makes me kinda laugh because that guy loves his eco boost mustang but it sounds like a Japanese sports car lol
Honestly? Good for him. He's enjoying his car.
It’s on Thatdudeinblue channel I think ur talking about the one with gold wheels
@@Syncopia Anyone who mods their car is A-OK in my book, even if they're not mods I'd do.
That's the beauty of having a car you do whatever you want because you like it, it's not for anyone else to enjoy.
Good for him
I respect the Ecoboost mustang. Everyone doesn't need V8. Just a fun car with a lower cost of ownership.
I think the base model is good for an enthusiast. You can mod it they way you want, change suspension and some engine tuning the way you want it and it will be a lot more fun. This was an excellent video guys!
My first new car was a 1989 Mustang 2.3L 4cyl that had 90 horsepower and 122 ft-lbs of torque. I drove that vehicle for 400,000 km (250,000 miles) over a decade. The 5.0L V-8 EFI had 225 horsepower and 300 ft-lbs of torque in 1989. I purchased my new 2019 Mustang ecoboost for $10,000 under MSRP in January of this year. It it fun to drive, turns heads, makes 310 horsepower and 350 ft-lbs of torque. I look forward to another 400,000 kilometres of touring with this red headed step child.
A mustang will always be my dream, even if its less practical and more expensive than what I can afford...
I owned a 2009 Corvette and a 2017 Challenger RT Scat Pack. I actually liked the Challenger better then the vett...BUT I spent loads more cash on those cars. I needed a 2nd car and I did not have the "I don't care how much this costs i want it attitude". So I purchased a 2021 Echo Boost Premium 10 speed automatic last week and this car is super fun and handles well. Its obviously not as fast out of the gate as my Vette or the Challenger, but I spent 1/2 the money....I love this little car! It is a lot of bang for the buck.
I'm dying to know what Turbowski thinks of this car, considering he loves Ford and 4-cylinder Mustangs.
per the last review, Turbowski vacillated between this and the GT. i was like, wtf?
@@twystedhumour put a tune on the 4 banger and run doors with the GT
I would choose this one with the 10 speed automatic. No need for more on public roads. What good is a performance car if you lose you license all the time?
They are strictly automatic now . Better fuel economy and acceleration.
I really appreciate the ecoboost as a car enthusiast. It's much more obtainable than a GT. To mock the ecoboost because it isn't as powerful as the gt, is stupid.
“My only complaint”.
You guys have complaining this whole video.
This is not the GT or higher trims with the bigger engines and better suspensions.
People who buy this version of the car already knows this.
This is why the eco-boost version outsells the GT 2-1.
I see more “regular” people drive this version that car rental fleets.
I have a ‘19 velocity blues eco-boost and I have all kinds of fun in it. Because I’m not an adult kid anymore I’m gonna be 40 in 2 months.
I have had V-8 cars in the past and that time has come and gone.
I had my fun in those types of cars and now I’m more about practicality and insurance.
Easily could have bought the GT, didn’t want to.
I have way more fun just cruising and getting great gas mileage and complements on the car, than cornering hard and stomping on the gas and watching my money getting flushed down the toilet because I’m once a week putting gas in the tank.
Regardless whatever your income level is.
It’s all in what your preference is.
But take it from me, if you aren’t a hooligan and know that this version doesn’t sound and drive like the GT, you will have just as much fun in this version just like the big V-8.
Even as a convertible the storage is excellent in this car. The combination of fuel economy, good seating position, power, and storage make this one of the best cars for a long road trip for two.
I have a 10speed 2019 ecoboost with upgraded intercooler and tune, it's a great daily sport car that won't cost you alot to run, you can go over 200+km/h without seeing the needle move
My grandaddy did not lose his life in Vietnam for this ECOTURD!
I know, he lost it for his corporate masters.
Bruh
I respect it. Its just growing up, I never thought of a Mustang not being any less than a V8
12:06 how many times are you gonna adjust that shifter while not moving? 😂
If this had a Mazda/Honda badge with the same specs people would go nuts over it
A sad but true reality.
I spec'd out an Ecoboost Mustang with all the performance package/handling package and I think it was well over $40k for it. It's quite a lot for an Ecoboost.
Dont pay msrp, spec out a gt same and it will be well over 50
A friend of mine got a high performance ecoboost, 6mt, with the handling package for under 34k. Great car.
Average loan amount for a vehicle in America is $32,480...
yup, there's one for 45.5k near me - HIPO, Premium, Magneride, etc. Nego down to 37. That's still a LOT (too much) for the 4 banger considering every S550 needs about $2000 in chassis fixes to drastically improve the balance and feel of the car.
Could wait 2 years and get it for $19000 used, just one non smoking, church on sunday,slow cooker beef roast cooking, elderly woman owner.
Just the video I needed and expected. Now I understand the Mustang trims and know that I want an Ecoboost!
The 2013-2014 V6 was too good that they neutered it for the 2015 model and forward until they cancelled it. It even sounds better than the V8 when you put on the Roush cat-back exhaust on it.
I have had 8 Mustangs, all V8’s including a GT350. My ‘15 EB PP is the best I have owned, and since sold to my son. Why? Averages 24 MPG, excellent street engine, and handling with less weight over the nose. The car structure remains tight, has been very reliable, inexpensive to own and simply fun to drive. Do I want 2020 GT500? Hell Yea!
Anything in the 300-400hp is still fast. Would love to see how the RS engine version changes things though...
I think its the final drive gear that makes a big difference too. The low ratio diff in the PP cars really wake them up and they start to feel a lot more like GTs.
Two years after this video went live, and I'll add my two cents to boost this channels numbers... I like this car. My wife and I rented one of these late 2021; I believe it was the ecoboost premium convertible. Premium because it had leather seats, but since there was no window sticker it is hard to know for sure. Anyway, we had that car for a week and absolutely loved it. It cruised well, and very quite with the top up, had great fuel economy, and was quicker than any car I have owned. Like the guys in the video said, for a daily driver this is hard to beat. In fact, now that we are in the market for a replacement car (RIP 2022 post-infectious disease car market) we are seriously looking at picking up a low miles used one. We loved it for a solid week, would we love it for 5+ years??? Only time will tell.
I think that would be a great decision. I have a 2016 Mustang eco boost, bought it brand new and put on 45k miles with no problems and still have a lot of fun with it to this day.
For an EcoBoost I'd chose the 2.7 but for a turbocharged 4 cylinder in a pony car is okay it does sound pretty good on full acceleration and I love that you can hear the turbo from the outside compared to other manufacturers.
Appreciate the fact that you didn't put down buyers of this Mustang. I don't know how to drive stick, have a 60 mile commute (one way), and don't have disposable income. This would certainly scratch that itch for me and who knows when i retire, maybe i'll finally learn how to drive stick and get that high performance Mustang!
As a "normal" person.. I can see myself getting one of these just to brag that I have a Mustang. And as a final thought: If Jack goes away, I click away. He should be included on the Final Thoughts already.
@Frank White Yes, I know.. but remember.. I'll be amongst "normal" people.. THEY won't know that.
My wife and I drove a manual transmission convertible Ecoboost Mustang at the Denver Auto Show last year. We did some pretty nice burnouts in it.
I'd love to see you two review the same car, but with the performance and handling packages plus a tune. Torsen diff, 3.55 gears, firmer suspension and bigger sway bars, with more like touching 400HP at least? Has to feel like a totally different animal.
I can tell you. While I do not have the pp I have new coils, new intercooler, exhaust dp etc and a tune. I make a little under 400whp now and can gap gt's.
I think a good set of coilovers would transform this car. Even Fords pp needs a little help with their damper selection.
Just bought a 2020 Ecoboost Premium Convertible in Velocity blue today . I am 61 . this is my retirement car . I have had a lot of new cars , performance cars , fast motorcycles , and I love this car . its got the performance exhaust 20 inch wheels and nice seats . and gets up to 100mph quick enough . done that on the way home from the dealer . had to test it . . don 't need a race car . this car is fast enough . speed limits on the freeway is 70 , Whoop "s ! so screw the v8 and higher insurance . this is all I need.
I'm 73 and have a 2019 Kona Blue Ecoboost Premium six speed manual convertible and love it. Way more than enough power. I had a new 1986 GT liftback with its amazing 200hp and thought that was the cat's pajamas. I also have a 2011 V6 Premium convertible with manual....actually like it better than the Ecoboost, and it has 82,000 miles. I did install a new touch screen interface with Android, so it now has modern HVAC controls and infotainment system.
Loving my HPP HP. Great gas mileage when I drive it like a "normal" person but can't always find the strength to do so. 200 lbs lighter up front than a GT and just a BLAST to drive in any corner. Spec'd out and cheaper than the PP2 GT. No brainer. 7th Mustang I've owned and over half were GT's and this one will smoke all of them. Nuff said.
You're so lucky man to have gotten an HPP ! I got a Roush RS1 Ecoboost since the HPP isnt sold in my country. I had mine optionally fitted with the Turbonetics NX2 and the enlarged Honeywell/Garret intercooler. Its plenty fast but its always nicer having a full factory car.
PP2 all day bro...Stock and I'm smokin you brother !!
@@A.ChristopherJohnson Should have got the non-ticking GT350 like my buddy.
Love my 2020 2.3L HPP with the handling package. I installed the Roush intake and it’s a blast to drive in the twisties. It’s amazing to me that you can get a Mustang with a pp2 package and magnaride for under 40k. Your video puts all the 4 bangers in the same bag and they are not all created equal. I personally would choose the HPP over the GT for balance and handling. IMHO.
Prefer Supercharger (Whipple/ Roush), because at 38,000 miles i had Turbine Lockup within the Turbos at 82°+. This is caused by Thermo Variations consider locations of Turbos Ford mounts them below for lower center of gravity. Problem is they're right next to the very hot engine. Ricers know this and mount them up high close to heat extraction hood vents. To keep them cooler, and not for show. Now the Turbo Shell expands like a donut 🍩, while it's being baked the outside expansion is outwards vs. Inside expansion is inward the hole gets smaller. The Blades expansion is outward to be larger to hit the Shell. Locking up the Turbine Blades, and then add the Backflow from the Intake and Downpipe to it to spool the the Turbos more.
My fuel mileage went from
32 mpg to 8-12 mpg. Glad for 2021 it'll have the GT500 engine package 5.0 V8
The EcoBoost premium is the perfect daily driver for me. Not everyone wants to go faster than the speed limit. I wanted the Mustang looks and the better mpg.
My wife has an EcoBoost Mustang convertible as her daily driver. It’s pretty nice, actually, although the spring/shock/strut set-up is rough. Thirty mpg, reliable as can be, no problems at the 50,000 mile mark. When she bought it, it could not be ordered with a limited slip differential, which is just stupid. As a result it’s a handful to drive here in the northern clime during winter, unless streets are clear. Otherwise, nice car.
All 2015+ mustangs have LSDs standard
Buy winter tires. Handful to drive in the winter is super fun. Is it at least a manual?
Reni N Not this one. Right rear wheel is driven, as witnessed by people watching it try to crab down a street that had 2" of new snow.
Protector of the Republic Automatic.
Not a single mention about modding, which is a huge plus for this car. The Cobb kit brings all the parts to work with each tune and you could really awaken this car if you wanted, $800 for a stage 1 with CAI or $1600 for stage 2. The first one is self-install, the 2nd stage you'll need someone to install a radiatior. 3rd stage gets you a cat-back (slides right in) for another 1k and at that point pulling closer to 400hp. This is somewhat safe since the tunes provided are designed for those parts but the people who've reviewed them noticed a huge difference in how it pulls (you get a taller rev curve).
I love my daily ecoboost 2019. Gt is a luxury that I could not drive everyday and winter time in canada
As a 2015 Mustang GT owner in the San Francisco peninsula, it still surprises me to see many current gen Mustangs with baby seats in the back! Affordable & practical performance indeed.
The aftermarket is where this mustang shines. Mild mods and an e30 tune has gotten this car into the 11s on stock turbo in the previous gen (15-17) EcoBoost Mustang. I'd assume even better with the 10r80 trans in the 2018+. I own a 2015 6r80 with boltons and currently working through my 93oct tune with PD tuning, then it's on to e30! It's already pretty potent and light!
when did they switch to the 10 speed? I commented above, but the 10speed makes this car drive terribly. As an owner of the previous trans, you should test drive one, it really shocked me. I think a 6 speed would suit it so much better, or a 7 speed with a really tall 7th gear.
Does the 4cyl run over pedestrians as fast as the V8?
Is this already rusting out underneath?
@Zfb Tln Lol!
@Zfb Tln Yep! Live there too. Is this a five year old car?
I know most people don’t like the ecoboost but I love the idea that I could get a mustang with a turbo four. I’m more of a tuner guy but the s550 mustang is gorgeous and I just think this car is awesome because I can get both things that I want. Small turbo engine, beautiful mustang styling.
I AM a driving enthusiast and have owned 3 BMW M Roadsters, a flawless s2000, an e46 M3 and dozens of other nice cars.
I have also owned a 2016 mustang eco boost that was bone stock minus 19” wheels.
I can tell you this ecoboost is actually quite fun and has serious performance. I would say the number one drawback is that it does not have a good exhaust sound.
Other than that, these two are WAY Off on this review.
None of your cars listed had a v8. Get in a Mach1 or GT500 and tell me that ecoboost is good. (Being a smart ass BTW)
My main take away from this video is that I should be super thankful for the base model because its the reason I have my 5.0! I had never considered that. Keep up the great content guys!
This has always been the formula for Mustangs. They've always built a lot more of the four and six cylinder versions than the higher performance versions.
People downplay the Ecoboost....but IRS suspension, drive modes, 310 hp / 350 torque, and 5 sec 0-60 times were Ferrari numbers not that long ago. it's no slouch. An Ecoboost with a larger aftermarket Turbo, intercooler, and tune will smoke a GT (you can actually buy the upgrades directly from Ford). The manual Trans is SLOWER than the 10 spd auto and the paddle shifters are the real deal (it won't force shift). You need a DCT trans to match the 10 spd auto performance. I bought my 2020 Ecoboost Premium Convertible for $42,850 (loaded) and it was $5000 MORE than the 2020 GT it was sitting next to in the showroom. So I don't know how "value priced" it is as you say. I did buy the Ecoboost because I daily drive a lot (200+ miles a day), and didn't want the 16 mpg. This car requires 93 octane to get the most MPG and Power (around $50 to fill the tank at current prices). I made the mistake of putting 87 octane in the car the first 2 weeks I had it. It lost 20+ hp and I was only getting 18 mpg mixed driving. With 93 the power came back and I get around 23 mpg mixed driving. I honestly never thought I'd see (let alone own) a Mustang with all the performance options, leather everything, Bliss, collision avoidance, automatic cruise (ADAS), navigation, and a wifi hotspot. If you're in the market for a Mustang convertible then buying a GT just doesn't make sense. This is my 4th Mustang. I've owned both the GT and Ecoboost. (I also currently own a Camaro and a Corvette. - they both stay parked because I don't like them that much. I HATE the Camaro with a white hot passion, and the Corvette is incredibly hard to park in the city. Gave the Camaro to my wife.)
at 9:08 is that link cracked?
Looks like someone got some air time in the eco boost...
from stock the ecoboost has A LOT of growth potential. i threw $1200 into my 2019 10 speed ecoboost and beat stock 2020 10 speed 5.0 mustangs
I watched this the other night. Then reviewed the 2015 video, and watched the current eco-boost video again this afternoon. I'm a senior and different demographic from Sg, but I was very sport car motivated during my younger years, and I have competition experience, (so I am a car guy). I'm looking for a comfortable, touring type, GT car with year round capabilities. I don't have room nor do I want the cost of two vehicles, so the eco-boost Mustang manual trans with LSD (for winter) looks like a good fit for me. I initially thought Sg's review was negative, but after viewing it a second time, I agree with most of his statements. I want a manual trans because I'm still a boy-racer at heart. Plus 300 net hp is A LOT compared to what I drove from the 1960's to 2000+. This car looks like a good fit for me.