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You should add those bookmark items for each topic in your video timelines, would be super helpful
He wants you to watch it all
That would be amazing
@@PS-zw4yc one would argue you would get a higher viewership and monetization, instead of viewers seeing how long the video is and clicking off the video
True! So true! So so true! True true true. Also true.
I've been asking this for awhile, I certainly watch far less of his videos than I would otherwise
Tesla should let customers know what battery they will be getting in their vehicle. No different than knowing whether you’re paying for a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder ICE car. In fact, it just might be illegal for Tesla to withhold this information.
Right - I want the 4680 structural pack but it would be hard to say when/where I should buy to ensure I get it
They do when its too late through the VIN number lol. TSLA cool aid and customer peasant suckers
thanks for all the information on Tesla, always interesting. Do you know when Tesla plans to offer a CCS adapter for North America?
2:32 adding a new type of battery cell to the “pile”. Haha. Battery humor.
No no no, I’m putting my order on hold until the new headlight, then no no no I’m holding my order for the new battery, No no no I’m holding my order for the chip upgrade. This is every Tesla forum ever. Just order and take delivery of your damn car.
The nice thing about them taking 9 months to actually make my Model Y is that I got so many unexpected upgrades that I find it hard to complain about whatever's coming up next.
What's funny is 4680 hypetrain didn't do shit for the consumers (weight reduction, longer range, cost savings). All we see is another price increase. Definitely not worth waiting
i know people who held of model Y LR order for 6 months because they wanted the new batteries that weren't even confirmed for any model/which model would get it etc. i laugh at these idiots waiting and now it was only for limited SR that will most likely never see Europe lmao.
@@FleshGolem420 Did you get yours finally? I ordered in March, it saying now my car will be ready in Sept-November. I am worrying. They still doesn’t proceed with my down payment.
@@elenahuntful Yes. And the date was bouncing around until the week before so I wouldn't look at it too often.
Love your channel. You pack in lots of valuable info into each video. How about some comments about Tesla CCS1 adaptor? I live in Canada and currently every competitive EV can travel to more parts of Canada than Tesla. The promised (Oct 21) CCS1 adaptor would make Tesla competitive again. I'm sure this is a growing issue in US too. I'm starting to recommend other EV's to friends who want to travel away from the main highway corridors - even though I love my Tesla in every other way.
wondering why you would ignore BYD in your 'other brands' segment?
LFP batteries are currently standard for model 3 standard range in the US, not just Shanghai.
Yep.
And europe
@@iCozzh Europe = Shanghai, local production in Europe is only Model Y
Good to know, is LFP in the model Y
on 800 volts upgrade isn't household wiring rated for only 600 volts?
Hey Ryan, been watching your channel regulalry since deciding to order Model Y. I wanted to lease it but just found out in Wisconsin, can only finance and not lease option. Should I pull the trigger and just finance it? Its estimated delivery date is in 2 weeks. How is resell value on Model Y - doing red color, black white interior, long range, 20 inch wheels
Revolutionary is being able to control super capacitor discharge rates. This would literally change the energy storage game completely.
Thoughts on the Matrix headlights soon to be utilized, now that it's close/if not approved finally in the US?
Hi Ryan, today I scratched up the rear rim of my M3 aero wheel when going into a driveway too fast. Now there is like white spot on it since the aero rim is black color. Any suggestions on how to fix it? Thanks.
is it not the development of the bar battery, the new tech advantage to introduce to the line of cars?
when will be the best time to buy a model 3. should i wait 6-12 months to order if they will make it better by then
Tesla is continually improving, but a car 1 year from now will only be incrementally better. It will not be radically better.
@@LoanwordEggcorn I just keep hearing about constant upgrades, for instance the new surfer batteries that can add hundreds of miles on a charge. Just knowing my luck I’d buy one then a huge upgrade like that would drop the following year.
@@coryp4200 At this point, the technology is mature enough that there aren't major improvements. The current Teslas are incredibly good. If you got one today, you'd probably still love it in 10 years.
There are no major improvements in batteries. The improvements are all incremental, like 5% to 7% better each year.
If you're thinking about solid state batteries, no one has them in production yet, and to get them in production would take many years of development. And at this point, Lithium batteries are improving so much that solid state batteries may not be much better. That's part of the reason why they're not available now.
That's not opinion, it's what the solid state battery makers themselves say. Quantumscape had a presentation that essentially says that.
Rivian has a patent for a series parallel switch that would allow the car to run on 400v but charge at 800v by halving the battery and connecting it in series to charge and reverting back after charge. It makes a lot of sense when the inversion happens off board the vehicle.
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@@danponitlong Thanks for using all caps, removes any doubt.
Great video as always, thanks Ryan!
I’ve been hearing this since 80’s.
Miracle battery 🔋 you will see it on your cell phone first if it’s dramatically faster charging and longer lasting .
Well maybe you should have been involved in the industry if the pace isn’t fast enough for you.
@@taylor92493 I’m still waiting 😆😆😆 IPhone still dead end day.
Most cost effective electronic item to put one in .
How about some nano carbon 😆👍🏼
So will we ever see model 3 with 4680 cells with LFP chemistry?
I Enjoyed the video. Your videos have provided me with a lot of useful information. I am eagerly awaiting delivery of a model Y.
I have an order for MY LR with est. delivery date of 0ct.2022-Jan 2023 I'm hoping the 4680 cells will be implemented and increase the range :(
Wait, I have a Model Y Performance on order with no assigned VIN. I was hoping to get a Model Y Performance with the new battery. Is this not going to be an option for me?
Highly likely no.
Will these be in 2022 vehicles?
Hopefully they just save all the 4680 battery cells for the CT preorder holders.
How much stripis replacement battery 20 thousand dollars
LFP’s are not 2170’s as their dimensions can not be measured in diameter. Instead of 21 and 70, it would be more like length(xx) + width(yy) + height (zz) or xxyyzz cells for example if they were to use the same naming structure.
How will they decide on who will get a new car with a new 4680 battery and who will get traditional ? Will that be just random ? I have ordered LR Y in Oct 2021. The app shows the estimated delivery on this Aug. Long wait... and frustrating if still i will get the old 2170 battery. Do you have any info ?
Great and informative as always.
The 18650 battery measures 18mm by 65 mm but Teslas new battery is called the 4680 but is 46mm x 80mm.. shouldn't the 18650 be called the 1865?
Elon, and / or team, thought it was confusing for people to understand an 18mm x 65.0mm battery size..so they dropped the decimal place for their 4680 battery.
Thanks, Ryan for your videos, always enjoy your perspective. Reading the many comments is rather interesting as everyone contemplates their next steps in the Tesla purchasing processes or is "patiently" waiting for delivery. I just wish I could get my order from October 2021. Tesla just give me a model YLR so I can enjoy the ride! 🙂
I have no idea what car I would be buying at this point. Batteries might be better described and priced as options.
Cybertruck gonna be lit!
- everyone for the past few years
wait for it. wait... for... it.
@@phillyphil1513 now that they've built two of the most-occupying buildings in the world, maybe we'll see their massive demand met. I just hope that that one former tesla board member is just as hard at work developing his recycling system for batteries. We're going to need that technology.
...if you like Legos.
Tesla is revolutionizing the high range battery market!
It happened
TESLA model 3 charges so slow after tasting ioniq 5's charging speeds....
It seems to me that the supposed benefits of the 4680 cells are not panning out for Tesla. They were supposed to be able to be manufactured more quickly because of the dry coating process, yet it seems that making enough cells for a mere 1000 cars is a huge struggle. I hope that Tesla figures their way out of the 4680 production hell quickly, or they are going to have to just abandon the whole idea and just go back to using 2170's for all their vehicles.
The Battery Day innovations are incremental over time, not overnight. The structural pack with 4680 cells is a first step. They’ll integrate tabless electrodes, dry coating, calendar ageing, raw silicon etc over time.
The 4680 will be lower ranger and a bit higher price
The 2170 will be the high range batteries and would be sold "cheaper" the the 4680.
Just because the 2170 packs are not the new "structure" battery doesn't mean they cant make it so. The cell fits into the pack he is Osbourne effect his own company
"Takes heat from the battery and uses it to heat the cabin." Um, the Octovalve in my Model 3 already does all that, lol.
And waste heat from the motors, and the BMS. What exactly are they patenting here? While I remain encouraged they're working on something, it's still vaporware for now. GM has become great at announcing things that are disappointingly just over the horizon
How do I know the Model Y Long Range I get delivered has 4680 battery?
I fear Twitter may be Elon's Bridge Too Far.
Yup. Especially if it's usage and value plummets
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I need that tesla quad!!
I hope the designers create a more rugged utility atv instead of a speedster racing quad. If they make two models, even better. You would have every farmer, hunter, and ranch hands buying the utility quad. As someone who hunts and lives out in the country on dirt roads, I'm dying for a tesla utility quad.
Well explained
At 8:00 maybe amending the import duty to 100% of the net value of imports minus exports would work better for both India and Tesla. That would enable Tesla to export RHD vehicles from India while importing components and low volume vehicles. 🤔
I'm thinking about renting a Tesla on my trip. any advice on what to get and how much different to operate?
I catch a electric car plugged up to my powerpole I'll scrap it
Is it only people from China that can join the ATV competition? If not, do you guys know to join it? 😅😌
When will Tesla switch to production of the graphene batteries?
are't LFP packs that tesla uses for the mic m3 prismatic cells made by CATL?
Yup
Seems they are taking a tip from Lucid with higher battery voltage architecture to increase efficiency. Still, Lucid is using 900v architecture opposed to the 800v mentioned here.
Yes, but Lucid is struggling to ramp up their production which is paramount to their survival.
@@carholic-sz3qv design trade offs
@@carholic-sz3qv It means battery architecture is irrelevant if Lucid aren't making cars.
@@carholic-sz3qv And Lucid isn't the only one not making cars.
Porsche, Audi and Hyundai already have 800V technology.
Butt no battery pre-conditioning and that's a BFD.
Hahaha, it should be, "Now former employees explained that the lines were set-up for the..."
THANK YOU!!! I was SO confused, and a little stressed on why Tesla dipped by over 11%! Thanks for shining a little light on the situation.
Unless you were planing on selling your Tesla shares look at this dip as a buying opportunity! Tesla’s on sale!!! 😎🇺🇸
LFP all the way
Elon: Putin is richer than me, he has an army.
Elon buys Twitter.
Twitter is the world town square
Elon gathers an army?
My wife and myself placed an order for a tesla long range model 3 and the person at the show room said this car will have a LFP battery which is good. The car won't arrive until 2023, i don't mind the wait.
Hey whatever happened to the tax credit? It never happened right? 😢
Fingers crossed Tesla honors the original Cybertruck pricing for those of us who reserved back then.
@@carholic-sz3qv yep, there’s no way I’d wait months and months for a new car, last new truck I bought took a few days and I thought that was too long. They can have their all electric cars, I’ll pass.
I can't believe Cybertruck is still so far away from delivery. Lightning will steal customers.
That’s the goal, more people using electricity over gas. This view seems like a waste of your own time.
@@taylor92493 lol, maybe that's YOUR view. Some of us also see the business side.
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Elon purchase of twitter could be bad news for Tesla Stock. Crazy that he's bored with SpaceX and Tesla and needs to get involved in twitter.
Well think about it. SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink, The Boring Co, Neurolink, Twitter. What do all of these companies have in common?
Voltage DOESN'T flow! Current does.
90 AMP Model S home charging. Never mentioned in nor by any TH-cam EV blogger but its a fact and it's amazing.
@@Dive-Bar-Casanova Never seen a typical house with a breaker for more than 75 amps and rarely 60. Who is this for, millionaires? Wow and lmao
Being based in the UK I thought my MYP would come from Berlin but been told they will only produce left hand drive. So all RHD MY will come from China…is this right ?
What does electrified mean? Hybrid electric like a Prius?
The first model is a hybrid giving it AWD similar to what Honda did with the NSX. The next model is a full electric.
1:30: How can the same car chassis use both a structural and non-structural battery pack? It sounds as though the chassis requires the pack as a structural component in either case, and all Tesla has done is to change the structure of the pack itself using the 4680 cells. If so, all packs would be "structural" packs. Has anyone crunched the numbers on the actual gains in terms of gravimetric and volumetric energy density when going from 2170 to 4680. Not on a cell level (we've already seen those numbers), but on an overall pack and vehicle level?
because they don't
@@bartl.7390 So they're supporting two different chassis on the same assembly line?
Yes, Tesla must be making two slightly different chassis, with different methods to install the seats. Both chassis likely have both front and rear gigacastings, since the Berlin cars have 2170 packs and reported to have both castings. Adding the rear only mega casting version made in Fremont and Shanghai, that makes 3 different chassis for the Model Y, all certified for sale and in production simultaneously.
@@georgepelton5645 Interesting. So has anyone analyzed the mass difference between car chassis with structural packs versus car chassis without structural packs?
@News Coulomb Good question about mass differences. I have not seen curb weight values for the two new chassis configurations. The US EPA should have it for the 4680 cars delivered in Austin though. Likewise, the EU authorities should have the curb weight for the 2170 pack with both front and rear castings that have been delivered from the Berlin factory.
Australia now has model 3 orders pushed out to 9-12 months with no idea if and when the Y is coming 😔
That sucks and inflates the value of a 2-4 year old S and X model beyond the current new car price.
Well that sucks. I was considering a model 3, but don't know if I want to wait that long.
there are no 2170 LFPs.... they're instead prismatic
Is the paint the same in other factories or different from CA
I think MY 4680 delivery will be aligned with the delivery date of orders placed post price hike. This will be a good justification for Tesla to deliver cars at different price points and for the new owners to feel that they’re getting better car for the money.
One of the points my Tesla advisor has mentioned is that you can push the delivery date only limited number of times, after that either you take the delivery or forfeit the deposit and place in line.
There will be little chance for orders placed before rate hike to decline the delivery in anticipation of getting a 4680 car.
I feel this is a good strategy from Tesla.
When do you think Elon will put skynet online?
A: August 4th 2027 (30 years past the original date).
The amount of tiktok users commenting here with complaints is humorous
Will the Tesla board reject the Twitter buy?
It'll cost them a billions dollar if they do reject offer
@@Blade70 There are conditions to this triggering that aren't simple. And fines and fees are negotiable at this level. It ain't your five buck overdraft.
Stock price is probably falling because short hedge funds had to liquidate their tesla longs to close out twitter short positions without getting margin called. But that's just my 2c...
I think many people do not actually know what multitask actually is 🤣
Perhaps each battery type should get is own model so people know what they are buying?
For the 800 volt architect, they should be able to split the battery into two 400 volt sections and use those in parallel for driving and in series for fast charging. That would also make it easier to replace a bad cell, you would only need to remove one battery section. If you have a serious battery problem you could still drive on the other section, and not be dead on the road. Almost forgot, no need to change the current motor wiring.
Will you make a video about your experience with Turro?
My Model Y LR has been pushed out to Sept ~ Nov delivery time. Since the 4680 battery cells are expected to be running full speed. I wonder if Tesla will send the buyer a “timed” option to have the 4680 batteries or keep the 2170’s?
They won’t.
They won't I just got my model 3 right when the ryzen chips were coming out people were even receiving cars with the ryzen chip a couple weeks before I got my car. I still got the car with intel though. No options given
@@Matt-mf1jy Drat. I guess that makes sense why they wouldn’t. Social Media…TH-cam folks showing it off. Even if they offered it as $XX.XX amount for the newer battery tech, it would have been nice. But, wishful thinking on my part.
Authenticating all users on Twitter is a really good idea. That will dramatically reduce spambots and disinformation accounts.
I have a m3lr on order but after taking a ride in my friend's '22 camero, I don't even know anymore. The tesla is the price of 2 cameros. Plus that v8 sound is siick. I feel like I'm back at square one, not sure what I want anymore.
I was in the exact same position as you Dee, but I stuck with the tesla. Cheaper insurance since model Y isn’t a 2 door sports car, and the gas for that v8 isn’t cheap and adds up after a month filling up at least once a week, and don’t even get me started on the reliability/maintenance/tires for the SS.. The tesla is cheaper, more reliable, more premium, and just as fast if not faster with the torque teslas produce. But that SS sure is sexy. Just couldn’t do it. I knew I would 100% regret it in the future.
Price of 2 v8 Camaros? I doubt it
You will be sure when the govt gets their way and make gasoline 16.00 a gallon.. OR MORE….. and taxes you per mile to drive an ICE engine vehicle… Camaro my butt…. Your not in Kansas anymore….. HAAAAA…
Where is Boca Chia ?
India is a PI market. No MNC has ever made money selling directly in India that I know off. The PI way is the only way. There's just too much corruption at each and every level that makes any foreign business very difficult to be profitable.
Lfp is not 2170. It is not cylindrical cells. I think it is pouch cells or something similar.
I hope that Tesla dips below $700, I can maybe convince my Dad to put some money in
My mom bought her first stock (Tesla) yesterday around $870. Proud son lol
@@citizenpunx Just wait till the till the teslabots take over and start controlling the labor force. Putting you in a cage and allow you out only to work.
@@oneone8318 I’ve been a Terminator fan since I was a child and I’m also in the Army; so they can bring it on and try! Ha
@@citizenpunx This time it won´t be an AI controlling the terminators though.. And it won´t be the AI trying to destroy humanity.. It will just be 1 man called Elon controlling Self driving trap cars and spybots called tesla bots. there might also be an army of drones.. This Musk man then would try to subjugate the human species by using his electric trap cars.. The cars would suddenly one day just lock their passengers inside the cars and drive to the nearest tesla camp (a prison camp owned by tesla) in the camp there would be teslabots that people actually first bought, forcing people to work for mr. musk. People would work to build more tesla trap cars to trap more work force and later to build space rockets to be shipped to planet X. In planet X an alien species would be waiting for the newly built rockets so they could use them to fly to earth and invade it with the help of the already enslaved human species and tesla bots. This is why elon is putting bullet proof sledge hammer proof windows to the cars.. So you could not escape them. Elon might also sell hacking rights and tools for governments and criminals, so governments and criminals could kidnap anyone owning a tesla trap car for a fee. This would be good for governments and criminals cause they don´t have to risk a thing. The car will do the kidnapping and driving and all.
Packed with great news. Thanks, Eamon
That Corvette looks like the right idea. Someone at GM finally woke up.
GM have been wide awake for years developing Ultium and cars are starting to be delivered. This plus Ford Lightning means serious trouble for Tesla in my opinion.
@@DouglasLippi I'm glad GM and F are starting to wake up, but as far as trouble for Tesla you've got to be kidding. The only automakers that come anywhere near Tesla in specs per dollar spent are the Chinese brands, specially BYD. Of the Western brands, there are cars that come somewhat close in some specs, like the Tycan, but can't compete price-wise; and there are cars like the Mach-E that compete in price but their specs are laughable. Absolutely nothing in the West even begins to be any trouble for Tesla at all. Except the deep state: NHTSA, Biden, the SEC and all that garbage.
Better not b bullshittin me
Would be cool to see an EVette
It's coming.
I can't imagine the zero to 60 on it . Personally I still prefer the V8 sound from it . It may also be a hybrid car like the 1000hp Ferrari sf90 as well.
What happens when Graphene batteries arrive ?
Anyone have an idea of when I may get my MYP? I ordered it on Feb 15th. Was given an estimated delivery date in April. I’ve been pushed to 15 May - June 19th. What is the average rough estimate for waiting on a Model Y Performance? 60, 90, 120 day?!?!
Woy, pumping waste heat from the drive train to other areas like the cabin!
How novel. No-one else would have though of that...
I would love to have a Tesla golf cart and Jet Ski.
I installed 2 modules connected in series from a model s 3 years ago. It becomes a 12s pack. The nominal voltage drops too low and loses power while still having lots of amps. I tried to get tesla consider making a 14s pack but they said they weren't intrested.
@@TreeHugger826 where did you install them? In a golf cart?
I want a Tesla autonomous lawn-mower
OR is this whole battery dance a way to distract the customers from The Osbourne Effect and keep them buying Model Y's with the 2170 cells?
I love my Tesla's but no shit a close friend was blocked by Elon this morning after 1 tweet critical of Elon's use of 44 billion to buy twitter.... Didn't even use profanity, just critical and Elon saw it..
admittedly its a 1/1000 that Elon would see any 1 tweet.. but its telling that he "hopes his critic stay" while blocking a critic less than 24 hours after the purchase was agreed to...
Musk has no control of Twitter yet. Lots of approvals by SEC, etc., before it is final. Also, Elon won't be screening twitter directly, they will use bots for that and will publish the software for the bots.
re: "Elon saw it..." ...and promptly LOST HIS SH!T.
Tesla will not provide the improvements we care about, range and/or price based on this new battery. Very disappointing.
100 per vehicle with knowing they make at least a million cars now is another 100 million dollars per year though
Ryan did your Y get moved to January 2023? Mine did yesterday. I purchased November 2021…beyond frustrated
@Calvin Joshua Scott YLR silver standard wheels and 5 seats
@Calvin Joshua Scott mine moved up again, I got my vin over a week ago and now delivery may 22. I have a y long range grey with standard wheels, black interior and 5 seater
Z zero six, smh. Lol.
Haha, came to the comments for this
Did he say LFP 2170 cells?!
Twitter can get integrated into the vehicles
does one need to misappropriate $44 Billion for that...? (when Cybertruck deposit holders have been waiting 3 years)
It is a common misconception that higher voltage equals faster charging. It does not, at least not for the reasons people think. The battery can take a certain amount of Power, which is what matters. Increasing the voltage won't increase this power. Only a few percent gain will be had with higher voltage due the reduced resistance in the cables and wiring. The benefit is marginal though.
Higher voltage means less current. Less current means lower ohmic losses. Lower ohmic losses mean less waste heat and higher efficiency, this can be realised as lower weight, greater range etc. When technical and safety issues have been sorted, I expect all EVs will ultimately be 800V. Higher performance and heavy duty vehicles will likely be 1,200V or greater.
@@jimgraham6722 the only thing seeing lower resistance is the wires. The battery cell's resistance doesn't change whether you charge at 4.2 volts or 4,200 volts at the pack level.
To add to the comments, using the same sized wires in the chargers and to connect from the charge port to the battery etc, you can deliver twice the power.
@@ryen7512 It's the current that's important, not the resistance. Twice the voltage half the current for same power level
Losses are determined by Ohms law, W(loss)=I^2*R(non load). They are inversely proportional to current squared.
@@jimgraham6722 How is power constant? The load is constant, correct? The power depends on the load.
Free Speech..hmm Elon cancels a bloggers order becasue blogger made a rude comment regarding the launch...