4L60e to 4L80e Swap - Installing a 4L80e Transmission on a 4X4
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- This is the 3rd video in the 4Wd 4L60e to 4L80e Transmission Swap Series. Subscribe now - video 4 coming soon......
OTHER VIDEOS IN THIS SERIES:
4L60e to 4L80e Transmission Swap - What to buy - • 4L60e to 4L80e Transmi...
4L60e to 4L80e Swap - Making the Transmission Crossmember - • 4L60e to 4L80e Swap - ...
4L60e to 4L80e Swap - Installing a 4L80e Transmission on a 4X4 - • 4L60e to 4L80e Swap - ...
4L60e to 4L80e Segment Swap HPTuners - • 4L60e to 4L80e Segment...
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Kooler Kleen Transmission Cooler Flush amzn.to/34dBMIq
ACDelco D2263C GM Original Equipment Park/Neutral Position amzn.to/37sVodM
4L60e to 4L80e Transmission Plug and Play Adapter Harness LS Swap amzn.to/2XAZMTk
Lokar XTD-3518FM Firewall Mount Transmission Dipstick for GM 4L80E Transmission amzn.to/2OACTLL
Hughes Performance HP4004X SFI Rated Flexplate (Dished) - amzn.to/337q4Od
Bolt Kit for GM Three Bolt Patter Torque Converter amzn.to/34i3fZO
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ACDelco 15724745 GM Original Equipment Transfer Case Adapter amzn.to/2pHvCkZ
32 spline input shaft transfer case (make sure to get the right one for your transfer case) amzn.to/2XCxcB7
ARP 2307305 Pro Series Torque Converter Bolts amzn.to/33cvveW
GM 15765623 COVER, Bellhousing Dust Cover amzn.to/2rkFnFX
HP Tuners M02-008-02 amzn.to/346R95v
6AN 20Ft Universal Braided Oil Fuel Line Hose Stainless Steel Nylon w/10PC Swivel Fitting Hose Ends Adapter Kit amzn.to/34nJwYk
Transmission Depot Inc www.transdepot.net
Circle D www.circledspecialties.com/
Universal Service (Driveshaft Repair) 704-598-7282
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What headers are those?
Speed Engineering
Thanks brother
Would this conversion work on my 04 Sierra 4x4
Did you cut the driveshafts and made them shorter ?
Nice videos man, I've got a 2005 silverado and im debating doing this on, this is the best guide I've found so far on getting it done. Thanks!
Hi, great video!
I just installed 6.0 and 4l80e to my 2000 Tahoe. I struggled a lot to get the transfer case in. I had to loosen the torsion bar cross member, which gave me 1/2 " more clearance. I also removed the exhaust shield under the car. The only problem I notice after installation, is the tight space for filling the transfer case with oil. Have some minor work left before I can add oils and flash the ecm.
First of all thank you for your videos which gave me the courage to tackle this operation. Just finished my swap in my stock 5.3L 05 GMC Sierra. Its driving wonderfully with a few small issues to work out.
1. I had a torque converter bolt ticking noise that turned out to be the 4l60 plastic cover interfering with the new 4l80E aluminum inspection cover. (Remove plastic cover and discard)
2. The downstream 02 Sensor both banks giving me a code. (Might be two exhaust leaks, dirty sensors or just bad sensors from banging around) 3. I have an unknown ringing on hard take off almost sounds like the flywheel touching the starter gear. (unsolved inspection cover again maybe?)
4. I had an aluminum drive shaft driveshaft company said they couldn't get a good weld on it and gave me the ol steel shaft if ya know what I mean. I feel like they just wanted to re-sell my aluminum but honestly it was no good to me as is and I have confidence in a steel driveshaft under load. (good scam if ya ask me)
5. My Gear shifter has PRND21 and I cannot shift to the 1 position and I just read the 4l80E has 7 Positions? PRND2 are all functioning fine I just cant physically shift into 1.
I bought a trans depot stage 1 btw...
Nice job showing us the pitfalls of a trans swap! Parts needed and etc.
Thank God I found this series. I have an entire donor 2000 suburban thats ate up with rust in the frame and I was worried about swapping over the 6.0 and 4l80e into a 2000 z71, this just reaffirmed me i was making the right decision.
so glad to be of help
thank you for the lessons learned, work stoppage items. I plan to make this swap as well and these little things are the killers
Well done sir. Very good detail. And hit on very good key points. When I do my swap will be using this video as reference. Thank you
Awesome, thank you for taking the time to comment. Good luck with your swap!
You are doing a much appreciated public service. This is on my list to do if I do not end up buying a 4l80e truck stock. The strength is so much better than the 4l60e.
I appreciate that. This was a HARD mod and there is good info out there, it's just in so many places. Hopefully I was able to consolidate it so you won't have to work as hard.
A good video thank you for sharing Steve.👍👍👍
Thanks, Lou!
I absolutely admire and congratulate you on keeping going with this, as well as helping others with things to expect and not giving up! There’s been so many times I’ve just wanted to sell my project but these help a ton man! I appreciate it!
The part where you show all the bolt bins is funny as hell. Said he was tired of going to the store😂😂😂 That is a good movie though
Doing a similar project soon. Your videos are much appreciated 🍻
Glad they helped!
Just got a 01 4x4 tahoe, perfect time to find your channel 👍
Congrats! Keep us posted on your mods.
Thanks for sharing bud much appreciated
Any time!
Great informationTHANKS!! And love the flex plate sarcasm
I live the video!! Badass video buddy!!!
Glad you liked it!!
Hey Steve. First of all great video. I started my 2000 suburban 4l80e swap a few months back. I have it basically finished except a mechanic recently told me my front driveshaft is too short. Do you think that front driveshaft you showed will fit the suburban? It has a 5.3 and 4l80e.
Very good video. I think you just convinced me to do a 80e swap in my truck.
SO worth it. Just from a peace of mind standpoint.
Great video man
Good information
Thanks
Glad to be of help.
Outstanding video. The part numbers for needed adapters was a great time saver. I saw that your drive shafts fit but was unsure if you had to change the length.
yeah, i did change the length of the rear and bought a new front. it's been a while since i did this video, so i don't remember the specifics, but i know that in the first video of this series, I went into detail about exactly what i did. video here th-cam.com/video/4MhOLgqVaPo/w-d-xo.html
@@TahoeSteve does the 4l80 come from the factory with a transfer case??
I have seen drag cars with insane power but i am not sure which transfer case are they running with the 4l80
Is this the one that can be switched to rwd and 4x4 with a button?
You happen to have the measurement on the rear driveshaft im in the middle of doing the swap myself in a 04 Chevy Tahoe 4x4 I used my stock transfer case just changed the output shaft to the 4L80E splines and my driveshaft is to long
I’m looking to do this and wondering if I can pull the whole driveline from a 2500 and just swap for example just take the flywheel transfer case and driveshaft and just buy the harness
Thank you for doing this
When you connected the wiring harness that you got from Michigan MotorSports. How did you hook it up I have the same wiring harness but it did not come with any instructions. I would assume that you take the big plug And plug it in between the original wiring harness and the transmission. Then run the speed sensor wire up to your PCM
A suggestion on the transmission fluid fittings.... banjo fittings will fit closer to the transmission and not stick out as much... probably needed more for a car than a truck
That's how you make a video!!! Fucken sweet. Thanks
This is awesome stuff brother. I just found out today my 04 Tahoe with 4l60e needs a converter and I decided to have a shop do it as I don't have the time or location to do it myself.....(my driveway is a gravel parking lot).... however when I restore this vehicle properly its getting an 80e! Ill 100% follow the steps you took when I do it. How do you like the 80e swap so far? Been holding up good?
Hey Steve great video , have a ? Maybe you can help me out,
I have a humvee with a 4l60 . Just purchased a 4l80e with the transfer case , also purchased the tci transmission controller.what do I do with the speed sensor ? My speedometer is mechanical
The fire sleeve for the trans lines is also a good idea because transmission fluid is the most flammable liquid in your car asides from gasoline
agreed
Did you have to change the transmission spline to fit transfer case?
do you have to get a new torque converter, or can you have your stock 4l80 converter built accommodated for your truck?
So if you buy the harness adapter is that all that’s needed to make the 4l80 work I watched another video where the guy had to re tune the computer to make it shift like it was supposed to
I'm wondering how you got your transmission linkage to hook up
Silly question.. did you have to swap out the TCU (Transmission control unit) and if so.. where is the TCU located on the vehicle, thanks
Did you have to buy or modify your starter with the dished flex plate?
Do you happen to know if the shifter cable bracket is the same for the 2008 Silverado with the same swap, I had to mod the factory 4l80 bracket and can’t get it back into park after going into first, any help would be thankful
Great video
Thanks!
Was it necessary to use the fancy dipstick and trans lines or can you use stock 4l80e stuff?
Yes the 2wd needs both speed sensors. The one i found at the junk yard has both sensors, but not harness. Ill use the one from the pcm in the front and get a pigtail from the dealer on the rear. Ill just crimp the 2 wires together
thanks
Hello! Can you tell me more about the transmission temp sensor.
My 4l60e output shaft is smaller than the output shaft on my newer 4l80e, so did you change yours to fit in tranfer case?
Great video man wanna try this on my suburban would you know how to wire the VSS on a 08+ pcm? They use a different style connector
I dont. Perhaps someone will chime in
Which line went to the radiator, the front line on the transmission goes to the top or the bottom, and the back transmission connection goes to the bottom or top of the transmission, I just can't find which hook up go where, and I don't want the supply lines running backwards, thank you
What helps is to have the transfer case in neutral so you don't have to worry about the splines and holes lining up, just get it on the output shaft then turn the tcase to line up the holes.
Thanks for sharing this.
So are you not able to use a 4l80e transfer case ? To avoid having to get that adapter
You use the same shafts that came with it or did you have to upgrade on it?
Having a really hard time finding a used late model 4l80e. I want to buy it used and have a local shop rebuild it. Any ideas where I can get a 2011-2013 4L80e???
What input shaft was used in the transfer case?
Awesome truck!!!
Did you use 1" setback plates, and did you have to cut the driveshaft for the 4l80e to fit, im in the process of installing a 4l80e, Thanks!!
did you have to?
What headers are u using are they 3” ? Do u have a part number
What headers are you running? Do they have cats in them?
Wanted to Thank you for all your hard work on these videos I used them for doing my swap in my 2002 Avalanche. Getting the rear driveshaft cut right now and we are done.
I have the same car, please tell me if you notice any difference.
No modifications to the drive shafts?
Been swapping Denali 60e to 80 e for 3 days you just saved me alot of stress....
How did that go. I’m looking to swap my Denali as well.
I'll be honest my DENASTY is my baby and I'm dragging my feet I want to get it right the ole moter will run just want to be smart about wat I'm doing
update?
Hello @Tahoe Steve. Love my z71 2003 and starter to have problems with the 4l60. How much did you spend total for the swap. Huge thanks for the video.
I really don't want to think about it but I will take a swing at this off the top of my head:
$2300 trans
$800 Circle D 3000-3200 Torque Converter with Billet,
$100+ for the wire harness,
$100+ for the flexplate
$100+ for the front drive shaft
$100 to have rear drive shaft shortened
$50 trans cooler lines
Crossmember - Free (but I already owned a welder)
I already had HP Tuners to do the swap, but this needs to be considered in your budget to either buy it, or have someone do the segment swap for you.
$100+ ??? NSS, Transfercase adapter, bolts, gaskets, dipstick tube
And don't forget how expensive all that ATF is.
So what rear driveshaft did you use?
great videos steve, subscribed! great information, i do have a question though im looking for what my options are from someone who has done the swap. so i am looking to swap my 06 silverados 60e to a 80e, but my truck has the manual 4x4 transfer case (the floor lever) so if i was to swap the input gear and get that transfercase adapter, would it still work? will the transfercase be in the same location on the truck as the 4l60e? or would it be too far back with the 4l80e and i would have to figure something else out? would a 2500 manual transfer case work if the original wouldnt? thanks again steve and thank you for the information, and have a great day man! btw you have a new subscriber!
any results
@Tahoe Steve,
Do you have the part number of the cats that you installed onto the long tubes and I'm assuming that you had to modify the y-pipe?
I dont, sorry. Yes i cut then welded them straight in.
Damn bro ur crazy lolz, after you have 2 or 3 bolts in just lower the trans jack, will give plenty of space up top, impact swivel best friend
Will the 4l80 e flex plate work on a 4l60 e
Sooo you used a 4l80e transmission with a 4l60e transfer case ?
2wd uses both speed sensors depending on how the trans is tuned. Did the same swap into my tahoe and painted my engine and crossmember the same color lol.. luckily I'm 2wd..
Thanks for your comment. At times, I wish I had 2wd too. Getting that transfer case in there with the added length of the 4L80e was probably the most stressful part of the swap.
What did you do with the drive shaft on your 2wd?
@@michaelhoman8668 I changed out the yoke with one for a 4l80 and used a hybrid ujoint to connect to my original drivesshaft. I've run it up to 130mph with no problems. If I add more power I'll swap it for a custom shaft. Currently just a cammed 6ltr.
isnt that pan and transmission brand new? From Transmission Depot? if so why the hell is it leaking?
Nice video. Would you do anything differently if you did it again? I have a 05 4x4 Yukon 5.3L. 233,000 miles. Looking to get a used cheap broken 4L60/65/70 to rebuild with my teen as a DIY learning project. To have ready. I found a used one for $60, with nothing but Reverse working. Thanks!
I don't think so
When you modified the crossmember with the angle iron. Did you have any clearance issues with the transmission pan ? The reason that I asked is that I`m doing the same thing only with a Suburban 4WD
I did not. I also have aftermarket exhaust with a Y pipe and V bands. It was the Y pipe that makes getting to the trans pan a major challenge. Not anymore.
Does no one make a crossmember for a squarebody 4x4 for a 4L60 swap? I have a tahoe with 5.7 vortec 4l60e and i was thinking about yanking it all out and putting it in my blazer since the engine will bolt right up from my understanding...
I have a 2001 trailblazer s10 style and the engine needs rebuilt and I want to switch it from tbi to carbed plus swap the old 4l60e with 4l80 for better power and torque and smoother shifting. I think it would really help last longer with having less strain and wear and tear on the 4l80 than 4l60 and it would be easier on the engine to save fuel and require less effort to get up to higher speeds on interstate plus it would help a lot with the 4x4
Can you just take the transfer case out and delete the 4x4 without changing the fly wheel to the trans ? Original drive shaft as well. Id like to know cause 4x4 ain’t my style nor do I care to drive it in 4x4
What did the swap cost total?
Just did this on my 04 Silverado. I'm trying to use the 243 tho so I'm not rolling yet. Plus my speed sensor ain't workn.
Hope you get it fixed up.
wondering why you didnt marry the transmission and transfercase befor liftimg into place.....it ccan be done using 2 jacks...trans jack on the trans and a reg jack on the transfer case
That's definitely a good idea if you have a "real" transmission jack that tilts. The one I used was barely enough to do the job as I did it.
hey what front and rear drive shaft
Link to what headers you have please and much appreciated love your videos
Thanks so much. Link for headers: amzn.to/2FENO1n
Idk if you’ll see this because this video is 2 years old but was it worth it? Debating on doing this to my 05 tahoe
What was the cost think of doing it
So how much did it cost total?
So I used the flex plate from my 2000 3/4 ton on my 1500. What size flex plate spacer do I need? I wasnt certain. Thank you in advance.
I reused my dished flexplate from my 60e so I am not sure. Hopefully, someone will chime in.
For the cooling lines did you connect them straight to the radiator or did you connect them to a cooler?
I have an aftermarket radiator with a trans cooler, and then i routed them to an additional external cooler.
Nice video, did the hp tuner have the trans already pre programmed or did you order it from them?
Had to find a tune online
What year is yours? Mine is a 2005 5.3L 4x4 Yukon. Great video thanks!
2002
How do you like that harbor freight trans hack? I have the same one and it's a pain in the ass to lift the trans with it. I used a lonh 3/4 rachet and it was a pita
I don't like it at all. I should have sprung for a nice trans jack but I have absolutely zero room in my garage to store one.
what motor is that and what kinda of truck
Whats the place and part number and number for the adapter plate for the transfer case ... thanks for your info
Please see description as I dont remember off hand.
what’d you need for the transfer case to fit into the trans with the 32 spline
you need an output shaft that matches the spline
Thanks for this video series. How do you like it after a year?
Can't put it into words. Being able to stomp on the gas without cringing (waiting for it to break like i did with the 60e) is amazing. The peace of mind alone makes the swap worthwhile.
wheres the video for wiring up the other speed sensor, neutral safety switch, and the other trans case wires?
th-cam.com/video/21LpCdqKyH4/w-d-xo.html
The front speed sensor in the transmission is not the vehicle speed sensor, it's the trans turbine speed sensor. The second one is the vehicle speed sensor. And it's only used only if the trans is set up to be used as 2WD. If the trans is set up to be used as a 4x4, the rear sensor is not used. A 4x4 input for speed is taken from the transfer case, not the transmission. Otherwise, your speed would be way off when you put the truck in four low and the transmission would not shift correctly.
thanks!
Hey Steve I've been watching you for a while now. And I never noticed that you redid your transmission twice. Question is it possible to build a 4l60 to high torque and high horsepower ratings? Or will I have to 4l80 my Tahoe?
First, thanks for watching! I can only speak from my personal experience. I started adding HP and blew my stock 4L60e. I had the 4L60e rebuilt by a professional shop with the following goodies:
* z-Pack 3-4 clutches
* Corvette Servo
* Beast Sun Shell
* 500 boost valve
* B&M Shift Kit
* Hughes Torque Converter.....
And then I blew it again inside 2 years and I am only making mid 300's at present. I'm going turbo, and thus, the 4L80e. But if I (instead) had the 4L60e rebuilt again (and was not going turbo), I would be on pins and needles waiting for it to let go again. Hope this helps.
4L80E, you can build the 4L60E up. But by design it'll get 1/2 the miles as 4L80E. 4L60E shares 1/2, 3/4 clutches. Everything gets used twice. 4L80E only shares 3 and reverse.
@@pmotorsports8276 ... Wow I did not know that. Thank you. Now I'm thinking if I should camm heads when rebuilding my 5.3 or should I stroke it to 383. More power is best in my opinion. But I was consearned about the transmission not being able to handle the power. I love your channel because you did and are doing what I want done on my Tahoe.
Going to be doing this on my 96 z71 on my 5th 60e an im over it
I get that. Best of luck with yours!
Si how much cost all yours spent
"The hell i be !" lmao
thanks for watching.
Great video, only comment I would have is I noticed no washers on the neutral safety switch bolts.
Taho Steve Did you have to change the output shafts before installing the adapter plate for the Transfer case
Normally you do, however, my transmission builder set me up so I did not have to do it.
@@TahoeSteve nice. Thanks for the videos im doing this in my 07 silverado 1500 4x4. I almost have all my parts lined up. Have A Dank Day
I want to convert my 2000 GMC 3500HD dually to 4WD. It has a straight I-beam axle in the front with leaf springs, a Dana 80 in the rear, 7.4 Vortec (454) and a 4L80E trans. Not sure if I should go with a Dana 60 or Dana 70 in the front. Any advice?
Not having experience with that vehicle, I'm not sure. I hope someone else will chime in.
@@TahoeSteve Ok, thanks.
Subscribed! Just want to send a big thank you for doing most of the leg work on my project. I’ve been thru 3 4l60e transmissions in my 2000 Z71, changing them out flat on my back on the concrete. If I buy the trans from that place in Florida and tell them I want the same setup you have, will they know what I’m talking about? I’m not making as much HP as you and have stock exhaust. Do you think I will have enough clearance using the stock 5.3 exhaust manifolds? Looking forward to seeing this running and if all electrical and computer concerns are taken care of. The part numbers and vendors, showing the glitches that undoubtedly arise, are so appreciated.
Thank you so much for your kind words. If you call them, ask for Danny or Misty and tell them you saw it on Tahoe Steve's TH-cam channel and they'll know. They have been nothing but helpful and awesome throughout this entire process. As far as the stock 5.3 exhaust manifolds, I can't comment from personal experience as I have long tube headers, but I'm sure it's a pretty safe bet. At worst, you might have to cut off the "ears" on the transmission.
Which transfer case did u use. The original one with the 4l60 or the 4l80 transfer case
Original
The only easy way to instal that transfer case is to lift it by hand, its only 80lbs and that torsion bar crossmember gets in the way of using a jack
Where was the extra video on the wiring? I’m having electrical issues with this swap currently. Also wanted to ask if you welded your own Vbands onto them speed engineering headers
All the links to the videos in this series are located in the description below the video. For welding the Vbands, I had a friend (experienced welder) weld for me.
@@TahoeSteve I wired my 4l80e up correct and everything runs good. But I get a “trans hot” across my dash after 10-15mins of driving sending it into limp mode. After data logging the torque converter and trans fluid aren’t readying temps over 180. What would you think the problem would be
@@kalebalsup8631 Did you do a 4l60e to 4L80e swap? If so did you do this part? 4L60e to 4L80e Segment Swap HPTuners - th-cam.com/video/oKShE4rpsA0/w-d-xo.html
@@TahoeSteve my whole truck is tuned, I have a tuner. But yessir it’s been tuned
I would love to do this but im too scared to as its my daily driver, im not mechanically inclined enough to do this and i dont have a lift
Would you reccomend buying a built 4l60 or swapping in a 4l80e?
I think it is only necessary to go 4L80e if you are planning to start building some pretty serious horsepower. My 4L60e was fine until I started punishing it. I did it because I will be putting a turbo in shortly.
Tahoe Steve i would like to make a healthy amount of power, close 400whp as i can get, maybe even over it