I wish truck builder was available for the Tacoma. I just wanna see what a moderate sr5 4dr long bed looks like and what it costs. I hate that marketing is all about top trim levels
If I had to guess. They won't make many if any low end trucks any time soon. They'll make the expensive stuff for people who can't wait to overpay at the dealers.
I don’t think so. The really expensive trims are available only as hybrids and the hybrid is not coming out until the Spring of 2024. So you can only order non hybrid less expensive trims for six months.
@@lespaulguitarist92 that used to be the case. But the profit margin is higher on the other trims so they come first. Try to find a base truck by any MFG today. Parking lots full of high trim over priced and marked up models, but regular trucks are rare as hens teeth. If I wanted a base Tacoma today, I'd have to travel from CO to St. Louis or Oklahoma.
The prices are the nail in the coffin. Im not spendong 40k+ for plastic valve covers, single cab short bed. Its a robbery. I like single cab short bed v8. But not with plastoc engine for 40k. Ford 10 years ago you got a crew cab v8 with little plastic under the hood for less than 40k. By now the single cab v8 short beds shoulda been better for less.
I'm not sure why you're surprised. I still have my 1st gen '02 Tundra SR5 access cab 4x4 that I bought new in early 2002. It had an MSRP of $31K+ back then, 21+ years ago. Toyota had a $1,500 rebate at the time & that with a bit of negotiations over 2 days & I was able to get it down to $27,550 out of the door (tax, tags, title, everything included). Before anyone says a Tundra is a full-sized truck, well, a 1st gen Tundra is basically the same size as these current 'midsize' trucks including the new '24 Tacoma. I've lost count how many times over the years people have asked me how do I like my Tacoma & they're surprised when I say it's a Tundra. Compare the dimensions of a 2002 Tundra Acces Cab with the '24 Tacoma Double Cab. '02 Tundra Access Cab - wheelbase 128.3"/length 218"/width 75"/height 72" '24 Tacoma Double Cab - wheelbase 133.5"/length 213.3/width 75"/height 73.5"
I'm a frontier owner and I'd love 2 see some Nissan's covered in your show occasionally. Ever since the 22' upgrade,Chevy,GMC,ford and Toyota have increased power train displacement to beat Nissan horsepower. It should b included. Toyota changed the Tacoma seats and power for the first time since 2010.
For exterior looks I like the Tacoma, for interior looks and ergonomics I like the ford (I prefer the portrait orientation of the screen). For what I need here in Alaska, I am leaning toward the Ford Ranger Raptor for higher towing, and better interior combined with front and rear lockers. The tough part will be getting my hands on one by next spring after I sell off my heavily modified 2 door Rubicon.
Probably more like 20 in the real world. Idk what idiot calculates the number but it seems to me the new tundra barely gets better economy.than pur 12 year old v8 f150
Hopefully in a few months you will get your hands on all of these to do a major real world comparison. Sadly all of these off road trims are over $50k and up. The Frontier Pro-4x is looking better and better. It can be had for way cheaper and will likely be much more reliable long term.
I've had a '22 Pro-4x for over a year and love it. The powertrain on it is significantly better than the '19 Taco I had before, and in my mind it's a superior truck to the outgoing Toyota. It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, Nissan does to keep it relevant.
I remember hearing rumors of a PHEV Ranger. Would love to see Ford have a hybrid truck in every size category. Compact Maverick, midsize Ranger, fullsize F-150 hybridized trucks
Yes, I've also heard that a PHEV Ranger may be coming in the spring of 24' which I'm interested in! I have a 22' Kia Sorento PHEV SUV with 32 miles of electric range and have averaged 74 mpg for the last 6k miles...
LOVE THE MIDSIZE SEGMENT! I truly feel like u can't go wrong with any midsize truck. Even the Frontier is super attractive! Good job midsize segment 👏👏👏
@@zoobrizz For majority of people, a mid size is really all they need. I have a 1993 Toyota pickup single cab, manual trans, with a long bed, has a payload capacity of 1900 lbs, I've never needed anything bigger than that. And that truck is even smaller than these.
Be honest with your followers. First off you can’t get a extended cab Ranger in the US. Second the ZR2, AT4x and Ranger Raptor are priced in the 55k to 60k range. The Jeep Gladiator / Mojave with hard top, leather and all the options the other 3 have is pushing 70k. Apples to Apples the Jeep is overpriced and under powered that’s why most Jeep dealers have 20 to 30+ Gladiators on the lots they can’t sell.
@@TFLoffroad I’m sorry you hate certain comments. I’m pretty sure being from the Bolder area you should be able to find a safe space to deal with any feelings I may have hurt. Have a wonderful day and everything I stated above is true.
The new Taco is sooo great looking. The perfect truck. There's a trim for everyone now too. Toyota really killed it here. I'm personally hoping the 4Runner ends up this good for the wife.
They wont sell the trim a vast number of people want which is a single cab shortbed. And if they did i wprry it would cost too much with how bidenomics has us all paying rwice the cost for half the quality and lying to urselves about how great things are whike we see children being put on puberty blockers
And one of the only affordable trucks. Raptor/zr2 is cool and all, but I just want some affordable (by today’s standards) off-road capabilities with a dependable engine.
Nissan. Potentially reliable engine but Nissan has crappy transmissions. This infatuation with having your engine lasts hundreds of thousands of miles is out of hand, in particular when talking about Toyotas moving to turbos. Time will tell on the reliability of these turbos but I don’t keep cars longer than 5-7 years so this is a non issue for me. Life is short. Keeping a vehicle for 20 years is boring and ridiculous
@@sammyjammy6647 Toyota moving to turbo engines is new and untested in the truck world so we don’t know that they will be bulletproof or even average reliability. Towing and off-roading is more demanding on an engine than just cruising to the mall.
@@sammyjammy6647 I get the desire to have a powertrain that will last as long as someone will need it but I tend to agree. There is no reason to make things that last a million miles. It's nice for the .0001% who keep their vehicle that long but for the rest like you said they get rid of their vehicles after 3-5-7-10 years. 10 is reasonable in my mind, and in 18 months we'll be hitting that mark on our Focus ST with 2.0 Ecoboost. Zero trouble so far, so I really dont think there is any reason to worry about turbocharged engines not lasting as long as most consumers want.
I like how Andre made a comment about how you might think the ranger should be on 37s, and for people who have fit 37s under a Tacoma they know how much of an undertaking that truly is
No rear seating views 😢. Which is best for toddler car seats? I think once you review them it would be aweosome to gives us family insight into space between them all.
Awesome review! Thanks. Oh, today I'm getting on a list at a Toyota dealer for the 2024 TRD Offroad. I'm asking them about dealer markup over MSRP. Bye.
It looks to me that Nissan is the only company that did their homework...simple, rugged, affordable in this age where a dam extra value meal costs 15 bucks
I bought the poor man’s ZR2 Bison,, Colorado Trail Boss with the 430# torque upgrade, my truck is probably even faster cause my tires are alot lighter, saved over 20k by getting this truck!
It sure would be nice if Toyota would allow you to start building a Tacoma. The new Ford F-150 isn’t supposedly starting build outs until late Oct early Nov and they have already given their customers options to build out their trucks. Not a big fan of the what Ford is doing with the limiting options within the trim level depending on if you choose extended cab vs crew cab.
Ford's website does not allow any other engine choice unless you get the raptor and then it only comes with one engine choice The lower trims all get the turbo four-cylinder according to their build site right now
@@Ben-outdoors I did.. that's why i asked. It seems pretty ridiculous to me that Nissan wouldn't bother to be there. Makes me wonder why they were absent
Infinity was there but not Nissan. Most of the smaller manufacturers pull their show cars from local dealer stock, and apparently the dealers weren't willing to part with them. Same thing happened with Hyundai.
...great video....all look great - but as always --> Toyota Tacoma is my favorite....to each is own --> but have had a FJ Cruiser and Tundra --> the performance & reliability was AWESOME compared to other vehicles that I have owned...my next truck will either be a Tundra or a Tacoma...
It's amazing how really different these trucks are even though they all compete with each other. For me the Ford is my least favorite just on styling alone. The Jeep was designed first as an off-roader and my daily routines just do not take me off-road so it probably wouldn't be the best option for me. I also think that the fold down windshield is just a feature that most will never use. I like the Tacoma and the GM trucks the best. Fuel economy, comfort, and price would probably narrow those two down for me. If I am choosing between two crew cab models, the comfort and usability of the rear seat would be a major factor in my final decision. Can't wait to see a more direct comparison between the Tacoma and Colorado in the future. Overall great look at all 4 trucks.
I really want to love the ranger raptor. But man Ford’s been having problems. Hopefully they get their crap together and make it reliable! (P.s I’ve owned 3 Fords, and currently own a Ford.)
Y can't toyota make the Rear ( back ) window go all the way down like how the 4 runners and Tundra does? That would be an awesome functional game changer. I live on the Bigisland where they debute the new Tacos.. just saying that would be cool of they could add that to the Tacoma back glass.
"It's likely that you're an adventurous type, because you're buying a pickup truck". Uh, did that line come directly from the marketing team of an automaker trying to upsell every hatchback buyer into a higher-profit pickup truck? The vast, vast majority of pickup truck buyers are using them to commute office jobs, road trip, go to soccer practice, and haul a whole one bag of mulch from Home Depot twice a year, lol.
Come on Honda!!! Let’s go! Throw a Ridgeline Trail Sport already!!! Make it a touch wider and a few more inches on clearance with skid plates and tow looks. Give us built in storage in the bed walls to add to the bed trunk…. Have it tow 7k…. Give it 30mpg…. And yes it will easily take on this class. We all know you can easily do it!
Man, trucks are insanely expensive now. I love the new 24 Tacoma as a huge Toyota person but it’ll be a while before I could afford some thing like that. They’ll be on Gen 5 by the time I get there Lmao
I will be buying at the end of 2024. Every mid-size truck will be on my list. Will consider 1/2 tons as well. Obviously, price will be a big factor, thus midsize will be more economical than a 1/2 ton in terms of price. I tow a small 2,900 lb camper about 6,000 miles per year with the possibility of more miles as the years go by. Payload is a critical variable. Wondering if the Tacoma with a 6’ bed might be the sweet spot for me. I can’t believe I am typing this, but the GM/Chevy midsize truck are the best looking trucks, imo. Gladiators are sweet, but are easily as expensive as many 1/2 ton trucks. Safety and reliability are important variables as well. I want 4WD and/or AWD, but don’t need a major off-roared trim variant. Wondering if Honda will add the Trail Sport trim to the Ridgeline. I like the new interior of the Ranger, but the styling is a bit pedestrian, imo. A Frontier is a an option as well with its 6 cylinder and 6’ bed, but real world payload seems to be an issue for the Frontier for my needs. In any case, great to see 2024 models!
Agreed. I currently own a Maverick XLT and also am going to jump to a midsize truck in 2024. IMO biggest problem with the Frontier is that Nissan had 15 years to innovate off that platform and did nothing. The pro 4x locally is on the lot for around $46k. For that money the Ford, Chevy and (presumably) Toyota all beat the frontier hands down. The ranger looks good, Tows near the top, gets relatively good gas mileage. The Chevy looks the best, but Toyota will continue to lead the segment. Im going to hold out a bit and let some others dip their toes into the pool and give feedback. Plus I want to actually see these trucks in the wild, bc video never paints the picture that the human eye does. I need to see them first.
@@onefastr6 I like the Frontier, but I agree with you; Nissan could have done more in terms of innovation. Solid performer, but not class leading. Still waiting for more information on the Tacoma. Still waiting to see what the Trail Sport trim does for the Ridgeline. I see Jeep has done a mid-cycle refresh for the Gladiator. I am seeing a few Colorados/Canyons. They look great! Still wondering about reliability. Agreed, I want to see these trucks (Tacoma, Ranger, Ridgeline). That will be the goal for 2024 culminating in purchasing one in late 2024. Take care!
@@zoobrizz I have lots of camping friends (we attend 4 to 7 rallies per year) that tow molded fiberglass campers with mid-size trucks (particularly Tacomas). These campers have GVWRs of 3,500 lbs. A midsize truck seems to be an ideal vehicle (daily driver/tow duties) for a small camper.
Because the Ford Ranger Raptor is going to be limited, the dealers may make adjustments. That is too funny. That alone would make me buy a different brand. Ford really needs to do something about that. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and I really do hope that more people start to think like that. MSRP exists for a reason.
Ford is really $crewing their customers. Not just that they don’t rein in their dealers for the markups but if you go to various Ford model forums then you will see that Ford is fulfilling direct dealer orders first instead of orders that were coming from customers via dealers. This seems to be a thing for F250/F350, Bronco, and Transit Van models. It means that some people submitted an order for a MY2020 van then it wasn’t fulfilled and at the end of the MY Ford cancelled their order. They had to submit a new order for MY 2021 then it was not fulfilled and at the end of that MY the order was cancelled again. And the cycle started again. All the while the dealers are getting their orders fulfilled for their lot orders. Some people seem to be waiting for 3 years with new orders resubmitted every year. While the dealers of course put the markups on the vehicles on the lot and in general order fully optioned pricey vehicles.
It's the same for all dealers. Hell, Chevy dealers are doing it with the AT4Xs. Promise you the Tacoma TRDPro will too. The top trim levels are that way....sadly.
I'm still in my 20s and i cant stand every car going to single screen infotainment systems. Single point of failure built to last just long enough to get you through the warranty. Have any 10 year old phones or tablets hidden in your closet? Go ahead and power one up and see how it works in 2023
09:00 Manual up/down seat adjustment. That's Ford. Remove auto seat adjustment installed last year, give customers another gadget, that was withheld last year.
In CA the Gladiator Rubicon/Mojave are being heavily discounted (9-12k off) as they aren’t selling!!! The dealers closest to me have 45+ units just collecting dust.
@@zoobrizz Id say they are midsized with their ~7000k towing capacity. Most people only want a truck to tow a camper or a trailer. 7k is plenty for that. Plus u get a bed to toss bigger stuff into. But not for $50k
Thanks for the information on truck. looking forward at new Toyota specially the manual transmission one that’s gonna be the hottest selling one. Keep on going to Toyota try to get the configurator open to build one . But it’s not happening. If towing 6500 that plenty enough for me.
SUCH GOOD upgrade on the Gladiator!!! SOme say it would be sad it looses the 3.0L Diesel, but frankly, I wouldn't get that engine as much as I'd want because the paylos penalty, so I would likely get something like the 6 speed manual Mojave X (though I woulc consider the Rubicon X as well, and maybe add the couple extra things the RUbicon has like rock rails, etc) Still, Rubi or Mojave is a tough choice. I do think I am just good enough that the mojave is the type of driving I"d do and would be able to do the rock crawling that I would do, however, I did have a 2021 Wraangler 4Xe Rubicon,and having the extra stuff like the rean AND front lockers and sway bar disconnect give you flexibility to get out of trouble and.. I may get the RUbicon. TOugh choice. Ford Ranger is a nice truck too, and the FX4 and Raptor are nice, and the Tacoma is an awesome truck, but the look of the Jeep just sold me. Where is NIssan? OH, I do like the ZR2 aws well. BIt has an nice diesel (if they still have it) Ranger witht he 2.7L is a nice truck! Same MPG as 2.3L I think,a nd I had that on an F-150 and it was plenty fst and great power on the larger F-150. One of your complains with previous Gladiators (2020-2023) was lack of adjustability on seat. Jeep no has 12 possition or 12 way or something. Is that better than before? (suposed to be seat of Wrangler, and I was fine with Wrangler seat) So is new Ranger incorporating tech from Bronco? ZR2 Bison is good truck. I had a ZR2 that was wrecked, and after I got Jeep Wrangler. BU tI need a truck. With GM I like look, and I prefer look of the COlorado over Canyon, Nice armor on the CHevy. Good looking wheels on That truck too. about the Tacoma... I was starting to wonder if they'd ever make a new truck of it... Hybrid Tacoma would be nice addition, bout I want to see plug-in hybrid on the Gladiator (same as Wrangler 4xe?) THere were rumors this refresh would get it, but not sure if it is coming anytime soon. I stillg et Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. More info on THAT please?
It's hard to choose from Toyota, Chevy, or Ford... I guess I'll choose the Chevy due to it looks more simple to replace parts than the rest and parts should be cheaper also... I love the side step bumpers and tailgate design....
I just drove the brand new GMC canyon. That thing can’t even tow itself up a hill without sounding like it’s going to explode I couldn’t imagine it with “7700 pounds”.
With all the truck makers making incremental improvements through aesthetics, consumers are not going to want to buy the shiny new toys. With the exception of Toyota and its refresh, there are no incentive for people to buy the incremental new models. If a PHEV and true hybrid versions provide real advantages and not wanting the newest year of the same old model. GM, Ford, and Dodge deserve high inventory and the incoming financial crisis. Only Jeep had the balls with the 4Xe, a few years ago but they did nothing to improve the initial electric range of 22 miles before the combustion engine come on. I would have bought a Gladiator PHEV if it was in 2024.
Satisfy the EPA by moving to turbos and small engines. But the consumer is gonna be pissed. Life is getting expensive and people like to keep their trucks for a long time. These turbos just don’t hold up over time like NA engines do! I’d prob pick the gladiator. But hey I guess Toyota got it right. That hybrid system will take tons of strain off the TT! We’ll see how they hold up tho
@wjoseph-rx9mj not in 2024 imo. Either a twin turno 4 cyl engine or a hybrid for the taco. Plus Trd pro will probably be 70k. No thanks. I'd rather the ranger raptor if I'm gonna spend that kind of money
@@whereschavo3953 Toyota is the sale leader, the king of midsize All the other companies Ford, GM, Jeep and frontier are offering just to beat Tacoma, even the old ones outsold all of them with an uncomfortable sit position Now it’s comfortable, good looking, good tech l, trims for every aspect.. Tacoma will continue be the King for a long decade
@wjoseph-rx9mj king of sales doesn't make it the best truck. It may be the most popular. But you put any turbo charged engine producing less then 300 hp which is what you get with the taco. Up against a natural aspirated v6 producing 310 hp. Taking that over the taco engine any day. Make matters worse the 2024 taco most powerful engine is a hybrid. Your going to see 2024 taco sales either dip drastically or toyota will be forced to admit no one wants a 4 cyl or hybrid engine truck. Toyota has made some terrible choices under the hood for 2024.
All I know is that the NewTaco is as reliable as my 2007 TRD Off Road it will be the hands down truck to buy . Just ask any mechanic which one he would buy ..............
GM did build their small trucks with a V8, if they are going to demand around $60K for a new one, they really should put the 5.3 V8 in the engine bay, just my opinion. Great overall view of all the trucks 👍👍🤗🤗
Was the Tacoma a pre production model? Because some of the plastics seems not to have some structure.. But overall, the Tacoma looks better then the Hilux in my opinion. So I hope that Toyota keep the name Hilux, but brings the new Hilux in the looks of a Tacoma 😊
I remember when this would have been relevant. Prior to strikes. Now it is .. Expert Buyers Guide is, anything used that is still around. Or which ever vehicle manufacturer is left making vehicles.
If it fits why 31s on the new gen Tacoma. Why not 33s especially for a show like this where many top dog mid-size off road daul cab comes under one roof for show.
Hard to beat a Gladiator. Especially with all the new updates. More Horsepower would make the Gladiator the un questioned king, and I think that's coming soon.
@@mlow42 I agree. If most truck buyers really reflected on their needs, they’d own a Ridgeline. I’m particularly interested in something with a bit more off road ability, I am hoping the Trailsport covers that. They should still use the same V6 as today’s model, so reliability shouldn’t be an issue. Let’s hope.
@@manbearstigg4037 I had bought a 2014 tundra and only had it for 3 months before I fully realized I personally didn't need pretty much any of what it had, switched to a 4runner for off-road capability and people/storage space. Glad I did.
@@manbearstigg4037counterpoint if paying $30k+ for something it needs to meet more than just the basic needs. Has to meet wants and aspirations. A used $15k basic transportation appliance would be different though.
The Ranger Raptor is a super truck & the most bad ass in the segment. I would buy the Tacoma TRD Off-Road, but I’m scared it will cost over $50k. I will most likely buy the GMC Canyon AT4 in the $47k range.
2023 TRD Off-road starts at 38k. They will NOT raise the price to 50k. I would be surprised if it starts more than 42k. That is already 10% increase. Toyota wants to stay segment volume leader.
@@zoobrizz prices go up.... That's life. Toy truck? Possibly more fun to drive but practical for a lot of people. Guys driving jacked up super duty trucks that don't tow/haul are driving "toys".
If they really expect us to pay 70k for a midsize truck then we are really dumber than we think we are. It’s sad that you can’t get a decent trim truck under 40k anymore, pretty much all of the trucks have you paying minimum 50k and that’s not even with leather seats in most brands, sad
I wish truck builder was available for the Tacoma. I just wanna see what a moderate sr5 4dr long bed looks like and what it costs. I hate that marketing is all about top trim levels
If I had to guess. They won't make many if any low end trucks any time soon. They'll make the expensive stuff for people who can't wait to overpay at the dealers.
I don’t think so. The really expensive trims are available only as hybrids and the hybrid is not coming out until the Spring of 2024. So you can only order non hybrid less expensive trims for six months.
@@VacFink what? it's always the work truck that comes for sale first.. than work it's way to the top trim.
@@lespaulguitarist92 that used to be the case. But the profit margin is higher on the other trims so they come first. Try to find a base truck by any MFG today. Parking lots full of high trim over priced and marked up models, but regular trucks are rare as hens teeth. If I wanted a base Tacoma today, I'd have to travel from CO to St. Louis or Oklahoma.
not true. They are offering a few lower trim models.@@VacFink
As an 80’s baby I still can’t wrap my head around that I’m going to pay $45,000 for a midsize truck.
And They aren’t “Midsized “. They’re overpriced Toy Trucks 🤡
The prices are the nail in the coffin. Im not spendong 40k+ for plastic valve covers, single cab short bed. Its a robbery. I like single cab short bed v8. But not with plastoc engine for 40k. Ford 10 years ago you got a crew cab v8 with little plastic under the hood for less than 40k. By now the single cab v8 short beds shoulda been better for less.
Same dude. Same.
My dad paid $26,000 for his 24 year old F-150 and I think that's insane plus the new cuddy cabin boat. But now that truck costs $46,000.
I'm not sure why you're surprised. I still have my 1st gen '02 Tundra SR5 access cab 4x4 that I bought new in early 2002. It had an MSRP of $31K+ back then, 21+ years ago. Toyota had a $1,500 rebate at the time & that with a bit of negotiations over 2 days & I was able to get it down to $27,550 out of the door (tax, tags, title, everything included).
Before anyone says a Tundra is a full-sized truck, well, a 1st gen Tundra is basically the same size as these current 'midsize' trucks including the new '24 Tacoma. I've lost count how many times over the years people have asked me how do I like my Tacoma & they're surprised when I say it's a Tundra. Compare the dimensions of a 2002 Tundra Acces Cab with the '24 Tacoma Double Cab.
'02 Tundra Access Cab - wheelbase 128.3"/length 218"/width 75"/height 72"
'24 Tacoma Double Cab - wheelbase 133.5"/length 213.3/width 75"/height 73.5"
I like the design of the GMC, and the Toyota. They’re both very nice. Well done, Andre.
After tons of research and test drives, I chose the 23 Nissan Frontier Pro4x. Couldn't be happier with it!
Lol. There’s a reason why no one talks about them.
🤡 @@oldmanmike4995you’d be surprised
Thanks Andre! You are doing a great job providing the latest from the Auto Show! Cheers!
I'm a frontier owner and I'd love 2 see some Nissan's covered in your show occasionally. Ever since the 22' upgrade,Chevy,GMC,ford and Toyota have increased power train displacement to beat Nissan horsepower. It should b included. Toyota changed the Tacoma seats and power for the first time since 2010.
Not a Ford guy, but that Ranger Raptor is sick
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*weren’t a ford guy 😉
@@GetBusyLivin 😜
It’s awesome but I think the Bison looks better
Cool, except the ridiculous dealer markups and it will immediately start falling apart…
For exterior looks I like the Tacoma, for interior looks and ergonomics I like the ford (I prefer the portrait orientation of the screen). For what I need here in Alaska, I am leaning toward the Ford Ranger Raptor for higher towing, and better interior combined with front and rear lockers. The tough part will be getting my hands on one by next spring after I sell off my heavily modified 2 door Rubicon.
The raptor tows is less I believe
Man...27-28 mpgs on the hybrid would be awesome!
Probably more like 20 in the real world. Idk what idiot calculates the number but it seems to me the new tundra barely gets better economy.than pur 12 year old v8 f150
Don't understand why Stellantis haven't put the 6 inline in the Jeeps??
Hopefully in a few months you will get your hands on all of these to do a major real world comparison. Sadly all of these off road trims are over $50k and up.
The Frontier Pro-4x is looking better and better. It can be had for way cheaper and will likely be much more reliable long term.
Agree, sadly is way too small for me.
I’ve driven a new Frontier. It’s like steering a ship and it was $46,000.
I've had a '22 Pro-4x for over a year and love it. The powertrain on it is significantly better than the '19 Taco I had before, and in my mind it's a superior truck to the outgoing Toyota. It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, Nissan does to keep it relevant.
Hard to beat how good the pro4x looks to me. Need to see the raptor in person
Had a 2019 pro4x and it was great ,,Wish they could come with a 2 inch lift option from the factory..
@@andy51300I believe a lift is now an option.
I remember hearing rumors of a PHEV Ranger. Would love to see Ford have a hybrid truck in every size category. Compact Maverick, midsize Ranger, fullsize F-150 hybridized trucks
Yes, I've also heard that a PHEV Ranger may be coming in the spring of 24' which I'm interested in! I have a 22' Kia Sorento PHEV SUV with 32 miles of electric range and have averaged 74 mpg for the last 6k miles...
LOVE THE MIDSIZE SEGMENT! I truly feel like u can't go wrong with any midsize truck. Even the Frontier is super attractive! Good job midsize segment 👏👏👏
Hilarious. They aren’t “Midsized “. They’re overpriced Toy Trucks 🤡
@@zoobrizz only clown here is you
@@zoobrizz For majority of people, a mid size is really all they need. I have a 1993 Toyota pickup single cab, manual trans, with a long bed, has a payload capacity of 1900 lbs, I've never needed anything bigger than that. And that truck is even smaller than these.
Be honest with your followers. First off you can’t get a extended cab Ranger in the US. Second the ZR2, AT4x and Ranger Raptor are priced in the 55k to 60k range. The Jeep Gladiator / Mojave with hard top, leather and all the options the other 3 have is pushing 70k. Apples to Apples the Jeep is overpriced and under powered that’s why most Jeep dealers have 20 to 30+ Gladiators on the lots they can’t sell.
We are always honest and BTW we hate passive aggressive comments
@@TFLoffroad I’m sorry you hate certain comments. I’m pretty sure being from the Bolder area you should be able to find a safe space to deal with any feelings I may have hurt. Have a wonderful day and everything I stated above is true.
I mean I pass a burnt orange extended cab ranger in my neighborhood on my way to work everyday so are you sure about that?
The new Taco is sooo great looking. The perfect truck. There's a trim for everyone now too. Toyota really killed it here. I'm personally hoping the 4Runner ends up this good for the wife.
They wont sell the trim a vast number of people want which is a single cab shortbed. And if they did i wprry it would cost too much with how bidenomics has us all paying rwice the cost for half the quality and lying to urselves about how great things are whike we see children being put on puberty blockers
Taco has been butt ugly for the past 3 generations.
Part of me likes the Nissan the most, v6 engine with no turbos. Least likely to have engine trouble.
And one of the only affordable trucks. Raptor/zr2 is cool and all, but I just want some affordable (by today’s standards) off-road capabilities with a dependable engine.
Nissan. Potentially reliable engine but Nissan has crappy transmissions. This infatuation with having your engine lasts hundreds of thousands of miles is out of hand, in particular when talking about Toyotas moving to turbos. Time will tell on the reliability of these turbos but I don’t keep cars longer than 5-7 years so this is a non issue for me. Life is short. Keeping a vehicle for 20 years is boring and ridiculous
@@sammyjammy6647 Toyota moving to turbo engines is new and untested in the truck world so we don’t know that they will be bulletproof or even average reliability. Towing and off-roading is more demanding on an engine than just cruising to the mall.
Yep. That's why I'm still looking at the RIDGELINE although these are very nice looking trucks.
@@sammyjammy6647 I get the desire to have a powertrain that will last as long as someone will need it but I tend to agree. There is no reason to make things that last a million miles. It's nice for the .0001% who keep their vehicle that long but for the rest like you said they get rid of their vehicles after 3-5-7-10 years. 10 is reasonable in my mind, and in 18 months we'll be hitting that mark on our Focus ST with 2.0 Ecoboost. Zero trouble so far, so I really dont think there is any reason to worry about turbocharged engines not lasting as long as most consumers want.
I like how Andre made a comment about how you might think the ranger should be on 37s, and for people who have fit 37s under a Tacoma they know how much of an undertaking that truly is
The steering and suspension can’t handle 35s
The Tacoma screen looks like an afterthought. The usb on the side makes it look like a cheap tv lol
I like the new Taco. Towing 6k should still be plenty for my 21' bass boat
No rear seating views 😢. Which is best for toddler car seats? I think once you review them it would be aweosome to gives us family insight into space between them all.
None of the midsize trucks have much room for rear facing car seat. Front facing car seat would be fine.
Awesome review! Thanks. Oh, today I'm getting on a list at a Toyota dealer for the 2024 TRD Offroad. I'm asking them about dealer markup over MSRP. Bye.
Still happy with my 21 ranger. It's like a little mountain goat.
Toy truck
It looks to me that Nissan is the only company that did their homework...simple, rugged, affordable in this age where a dam extra value meal costs 15 bucks
I bought the poor man’s ZR2 Bison,, Colorado Trail Boss with the 430# torque upgrade, my truck is probably even faster cause my tires are alot lighter, saved over 20k by getting this truck!
It sure would be nice if Toyota would allow you to start building a Tacoma. The new Ford F-150 isn’t supposedly starting build outs until late Oct early Nov and they have already given their customers options to build out their trucks. Not a big fan of the what Ford is doing with the limiting options within the trim level depending on if you choose extended cab vs crew cab.
Ford's website does not allow any other engine choice unless you get the raptor and then it only comes with one engine choice The lower trims all get the turbo four-cylinder according to their build site right now
Australia get's the cool stuff.
@2011buddylee I believe it’s already available for the USA
Give Andre a raise! He always brings it.
Was Nissan not invited? Or did they just not want to participate?
Watch till the end…
@@Ben-outdoors I did.. that's why i asked. It seems pretty ridiculous to me that Nissan wouldn't bother to be there. Makes me wonder why they were absent
Infinity was there but not Nissan. Most of the smaller manufacturers pull their show cars from local dealer stock, and apparently the dealers weren't willing to part with them. Same thing happened with Hyundai.
...great video....all look great - but as always --> Toyota Tacoma is my favorite....to each is own --> but have had a FJ Cruiser and Tundra --> the performance & reliability was AWESOME compared to other vehicles that I have owned...my next truck will either be a Tundra or a Tacoma...
Nissan had nothing new to offer
Watched the live Jeep event on my phone on Jeep’s TH-cam channel!! I was looking in the crowd for you guys!! Truck King was there too!! OlllllllO
It's amazing how really different these trucks are even though they all compete with each other. For me the Ford is my least favorite just on styling alone. The Jeep was designed first as an off-roader and my daily routines just do not take me off-road so it probably wouldn't be the best option for me. I also think that the fold down windshield is just a feature that most will never use. I like the Tacoma and the GM trucks the best. Fuel economy, comfort, and price would probably narrow those two down for me. If I am choosing between two crew cab models, the comfort and usability of the rear seat would be a major factor in my final decision. Can't wait to see a more direct comparison between the Tacoma and Colorado in the future. Overall great look at all 4 trucks.
Thank for watching and your feedback.
colorado beats the tacoma in offroad capabilities. the tacoma beats the colorado in mpg.
The Ranger is very Ford IMO. Minus the Raptor trim, Ford trucks are very subdued in appearance. Doesn’t seem to be hurting Fords sales too much.
I really want to love the ranger raptor. But man Ford’s been having problems. Hopefully they get their crap together and make it reliable! (P.s I’ve owned 3 Fords, and currently own a Ford.)
Needs the Ridgeline! But Honda is dragging on releasing the 24
It's not even a truck! It's an suv with a bed🤣
Y can't toyota make the Rear ( back ) window go all the way down like how the 4 runners and Tundra does? That would be an awesome functional game changer. I live on the Bigisland where they debute the new Tacos.. just saying that would be cool of they could add that to the Tacoma back glass.
These midsize truck prices should come wit a free reach around
Wish they would get rid of the double cab on the gladiator. It would look better and they could lengthen the bed or shorten the frame and wheelbase.
That ZR2 is easily the best looking of the group.
They aren’t “Midsized “. They’re overpriced Toy Trucks 🤡
Awesome back to back comparisons. Good work, Andre 👍
I really hope those ultra shiny plastics in the Tacoma interior are a pre-production feature. It's not a good look at all.
"It's likely that you're an adventurous type, because you're buying a pickup truck".
Uh, did that line come directly from the marketing team of an automaker trying to upsell every hatchback buyer into a higher-profit pickup truck? The vast, vast majority of pickup truck buyers are using them to commute office jobs, road trip, go to soccer practice, and haul a whole one bag of mulch from Home Depot twice a year, lol.
Come on Honda!!! Let’s go! Throw a Ridgeline Trail Sport already!!! Make it a touch wider and a few more inches on clearance with skid plates and tow looks. Give us built in storage in the bed walls to add to the bed trunk…. Have it tow 7k…. Give it 30mpg…. And yes it will easily take on this class. We all know you can easily do it!
My choice is Toyota Tacoma , thanks for another great video 👍
Thank you for watching.
Man, trucks are insanely expensive now. I love the new 24 Tacoma as a huge Toyota person but it’ll be a while before I could afford some thing like that. They’ll be on Gen 5 by the time I get there Lmao
I will be buying at the end of 2024. Every mid-size truck will be on my list. Will consider 1/2 tons as well. Obviously, price will be a big factor, thus midsize will be more economical than a 1/2 ton in terms of price. I tow a small 2,900 lb camper about 6,000 miles per year with the possibility of more miles as the years go by. Payload is a critical variable. Wondering if the Tacoma with a 6’ bed might be the sweet spot for me. I can’t believe I am typing this, but the GM/Chevy midsize truck are the best looking trucks, imo. Gladiators are sweet, but are easily as expensive as many 1/2 ton trucks. Safety and reliability are important variables as well. I want 4WD and/or AWD, but don’t need a major off-roared trim variant. Wondering if Honda will add the Trail Sport trim to the Ridgeline. I like the new interior of the Ranger, but the styling is a bit pedestrian, imo. A Frontier is a an option as well with its 6 cylinder and 6’ bed, but real world payload seems to be an issue for the Frontier for my needs. In any case, great to see 2024 models!
Agreed. I currently own a Maverick XLT and also am going to jump to a midsize truck in 2024. IMO biggest problem with the Frontier is that Nissan had 15 years to innovate off that platform and did nothing. The pro 4x locally is on the lot for around $46k. For that money the Ford, Chevy and (presumably) Toyota all beat the frontier hands down. The ranger looks good, Tows near the top, gets relatively good gas mileage. The Chevy looks the best, but Toyota will continue to lead the segment. Im going to hold out a bit and let some others dip their toes into the pool and give feedback. Plus I want to actually see these trucks in the wild, bc video never paints the picture that the human eye does. I need to see them first.
They aren’t “Midsized “. They’re overpriced Toy Trucks 🤡. They aren’t built to pull anything over 2200 lbs
@@onefastr6 I like the Frontier, but I agree with you; Nissan could have done more in terms of innovation. Solid performer, but not class leading. Still waiting for more information on the Tacoma. Still waiting to see what the Trail Sport trim does for the Ridgeline. I see Jeep has done a mid-cycle refresh for the Gladiator. I am seeing a few Colorados/Canyons. They look great! Still wondering about reliability. Agreed, I want to see these trucks (Tacoma, Ranger, Ridgeline). That will be the goal for 2024 culminating in purchasing one in late 2024. Take care!
@@zoobrizz I have lots of camping friends (we attend 4 to 7 rallies per year) that tow molded fiberglass campers with mid-size trucks (particularly Tacomas). These campers have GVWRs of 3,500 lbs. A midsize truck seems to be an ideal vehicle (daily driver/tow duties) for a small camper.
Tacoma through and through. I would still wait a couple of years until gremlins are fixed.
Losing bed space to store the spare? Glad they include an actual tire for a spare but sacrificing bed space sucks.
Almost 78000 dollar for the Ranger Raptor in Canada! 🤬🤬🤬
I guess they don't really want to sell them....
They are $92,000 in Australia and can't produce them quick enough
Because the Ford Ranger Raptor is going to be limited, the dealers may make adjustments. That is too funny. That alone would make me buy a different brand. Ford really needs to do something about that. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and I really do hope that more people start to think like that. MSRP exists for a reason.
Ford is really $crewing their customers. Not just that they don’t rein in their dealers for the markups but if you go to various Ford model forums then you will see that Ford is fulfilling direct dealer orders first instead of orders that were coming from customers via dealers. This seems to be a thing for F250/F350, Bronco, and Transit Van models. It means that some people submitted an order for a MY2020 van then it wasn’t fulfilled and at the end of the MY Ford cancelled their order. They had to submit a new order for MY 2021 then it was not fulfilled and at the end of that MY the order was cancelled again. And the cycle started again. All the while the dealers are getting their orders fulfilled for their lot orders. Some people seem to be waiting for 3 years with new orders resubmitted every year. While the dealers of course put the markups on the vehicles on the lot and in general order fully optioned pricey vehicles.
@@is6566 they would only cancel one order for me, because I'd take my business elsewhere.
Gotta love capitalism
@@caliboyrob I don't mind capitalism, I can choose what I want to do with my money. I choose not to buy a Ford product.
It's the same for all dealers. Hell, Chevy dealers are doing it with the AT4Xs. Promise you the Tacoma TRDPro will too. The top trim levels are that way....sadly.
I still wrap my head around my jeep gladiator rubicon can't change my mind
I like the fender flares on the Bison. They don’t have the indentations for the reflectors on the GMC models.
"What do you want when you're buying a midsize pickup truck?"
Reliability, durability and longevity.
@canale…. That 4Runner will have a hard time taking the 8x4 Sheetrock pieces or the 8-foot fence lumber home. 😃
I'm still in my 20s and i cant stand every car going to single screen infotainment systems. Single point of failure built to last just long enough to get you through the warranty.
Have any 10 year old phones or tablets hidden in your closet? Go ahead and power one up and see how it works in 2023
i'm pretty sure midsize trucks are already bigger than fullsize from just 10yrs ago
Still don't see how you guys are missing the mark on the Ridgeline. Is all you guys want is an off road rig with 33"s? Not realistic...
09:00 Manual up/down seat adjustment. That's Ford. Remove auto seat adjustment installed last year, give customers another gadget, that was withheld last year.
Your not gonna touch a Rubicon or Mojave for much less than the 55k for the ranger raptor
Try $70k with the Bs going on. Who would’ve thought a midsize pick up truck would be over 50 grand insane
@@mikenormandy9250 nicely equipped some of them aren't it's all corporate greed
Just wait til striking UAW get their money, prices will go even higher.
In CA the Gladiator Rubicon/Mojave are being heavily discounted (9-12k off) as they aren’t selling!!! The dealers closest to me have 45+ units just collecting dust.
Right! I guess Andre just doesn’t like Ford so he threw that dig in there 🤷🏾♂️
I actually prefer the Jeep seating compared to the other mid size trucks. I have done several long drives in it and have been perfectly comfortable.
50k for a mid sized pickup is bananas...
And They aren’t “Midsized “. They’re overpriced Toy Trucks 🤡
@@zoobrizz Id say they are midsized with their ~7000k towing capacity. Most people only want a truck to tow a camper or a trailer. 7k is plenty for that. Plus u get a bed to toss bigger stuff into. But not for $50k
Thanks for the information on truck. looking forward at new Toyota specially the manual transmission one that’s gonna be the hottest selling one.
Keep on going to Toyota try to get the configurator open to build one . But it’s not happening. If towing 6500 that plenty enough for me.
SUCH GOOD upgrade on the Gladiator!!! SOme say it would be sad it looses the 3.0L Diesel, but frankly, I wouldn't get that engine as much as I'd want because the paylos penalty, so I would likely get something like the 6 speed manual Mojave X (though I woulc consider the Rubicon X as well, and maybe add the couple extra things the RUbicon has like rock rails, etc) Still, Rubi or Mojave is a tough choice. I do think I am just good enough that the mojave is the type of driving I"d do and would be able to do the rock crawling that I would do, however, I did have a 2021 Wraangler 4Xe Rubicon,and having the extra stuff like the rean AND front lockers and sway bar disconnect give you flexibility to get out of trouble and.. I may get the RUbicon. TOugh choice.
Ford Ranger is a nice truck too, and the FX4 and Raptor are nice, and the Tacoma is an awesome truck, but the look of the Jeep just sold me. Where is NIssan? OH, I do like the ZR2 aws well. BIt has an nice diesel (if they still have it) Ranger witht he 2.7L is a nice truck! Same MPG as 2.3L I think,a nd I had that on an F-150 and it was plenty fst and great power on the larger F-150.
One of your complains with previous Gladiators (2020-2023) was lack of adjustability on seat. Jeep no has 12 possition or 12 way or something. Is that better than before? (suposed to be seat of Wrangler, and I was fine with Wrangler seat) So is new Ranger incorporating tech from Bronco? ZR2 Bison is good truck. I had a ZR2 that was wrecked, and after I got Jeep Wrangler. BU tI need a truck. With GM I like look, and I prefer look of the COlorado over Canyon, Nice armor on the CHevy. Good looking wheels on That truck too. about the Tacoma... I was starting to wonder if they'd ever make a new truck of it... Hybrid Tacoma would be nice addition, bout I want to see plug-in hybrid on the Gladiator (same as Wrangler 4xe?) THere were rumors this refresh would get it, but not sure if it is coming anytime soon.
I stillg et Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. More info on THAT please?
I love the blue on the jeeps!
33s on tacoma no rub is a big deal if you can have it 11.5 wide
The Bison looks nice but having to put the spare in the bed would be a deal-breaker for me.
You could take it out....DUH
It's hard to choose from Toyota, Chevy, or Ford...
I guess I'll choose the Chevy due to it looks more simple to replace parts than the rest and parts should be cheaper also... I love the side step bumpers and tailgate design....
Cheaper parts. Bcos the entire truck is built cheap.
If I were to get a new midsize truck, I think I’d go for Nissan. Just wish it was a little more lifted.
Need long bed with rear doors. Seems Tacoma is the only choice--but maybe the best choice. I'll wait for the hybrid.
I just drove the brand new GMC canyon. That thing can’t even tow itself up a hill without sounding like it’s going to explode I couldn’t imagine it with “7700 pounds”.
I love jeeps but up here in canadian dealerships are a pain in thee ass to deal with
With all the truck makers making incremental improvements through aesthetics, consumers are not going to want to buy the shiny new toys. With the exception of Toyota and its refresh, there are no incentive for people to buy the incremental new models. If a PHEV and true hybrid versions provide real advantages and not wanting the newest year of the same old model. GM, Ford, and Dodge deserve high inventory and the incoming financial crisis. Only Jeep had the balls with the 4Xe, a few years ago but they did nothing to improve the initial electric range of 22 miles before the combustion engine come on. I would have bought a Gladiator PHEV if it was in 2024.
Satisfy the EPA by moving to turbos and small engines. But the consumer is gonna be pissed.
Life is getting expensive and people like to keep their trucks for a long time. These turbos just don’t hold up over time like NA engines do! I’d prob pick the gladiator.
But hey I guess Toyota got it right. That hybrid system will take tons of strain off the TT! We’ll see how they hold up tho
i still think the frontier is the best mid sized truck,
Everyone knows that Tacoma is the king of the midsize pickup trucks
@wjoseph-rx9mj not in 2024 imo. Either a twin turno 4 cyl engine or a hybrid for the taco. Plus Trd pro will probably be 70k. No thanks. I'd rather the ranger raptor if I'm gonna spend that kind of money
@@whereschavo3953 Toyota is the sale leader, the king of midsize
All the other companies
Ford, GM, Jeep and frontier are offering just to beat Tacoma, even the old ones outsold all of them with an uncomfortable sit position
Now it’s comfortable, good looking, good tech l, trims for every aspect.. Tacoma will continue be the King for a long decade
@wjoseph-rx9mj king of sales doesn't make it the best truck. It may be the most popular. But you put any turbo charged engine producing less then 300 hp which is what you get with the taco. Up against a natural aspirated v6 producing 310 hp. Taking that over the taco engine any day. Make matters worse the 2024 taco most powerful engine is a hybrid. Your going to see 2024 taco sales either dip drastically or toyota will be forced to admit no one wants a 4 cyl or hybrid engine truck. Toyota has made some terrible choices under the hood for 2024.
@@whereschavo3953 that’s what make it the best
That’s any company dream..
the owners love them… they still them with the lower ground sit
I just I could get my hands on some of these trucks that were supposed to be out months ago.
The XLT FX4 offroad package still has rear leaf springs?
All I know is that the NewTaco is as reliable as my 2007 TRD Off Road it will be the hands down truck to buy . Just ask any mechanic which one he would buy ..............
I test drove a Gladiator and absolutely hated it. It was slower than sh*t and unless you are off-roading I see zero every day use for it
GM did build their small trucks with a V8, if they are going to demand around $60K for a new one, they really should put the 5.3 V8 in the engine bay, just my opinion.
Great overall view of all the trucks 👍👍🤗🤗
Got my Canyon on order
Sucker
@@zoobrizzlol when you make good money you don’t have to worry about it. All you worry about is if you like the product 😂.
Was the Tacoma a pre production model? Because some of the plastics seems not to have some structure..
But overall, the Tacoma looks better then the Hilux in my opinion. So I hope that Toyota keep the name Hilux, but brings the new Hilux in the looks of a Tacoma 😊
Yes, it was a pre-production model.
I thought the TRD Offroad models were going to have rear coils too, but that one has leaf springs…
I remember when this would have been relevant. Prior to strikes. Now it is .. Expert Buyers Guide is, anything used that is still around. Or which ever vehicle manufacturer is left making vehicles.
Andre already showed you why not to buy a GM 😂
Small tires both on ranger and tacoma. Not sure what i will choose
If it fits why 31s on the new gen Tacoma. Why not 33s especially for a show like this where many top dog mid-size off road daul cab comes under one roof for show.
Almost one for every day of the week
Why can’t they make single cab trucks? Not everyone wants a crew cab and short bed
Ranger for the 🏆 ❤
stipulates you don't really need a v6 for towing
Subject but I'm really impressed with the exterior design of the Chevy and Toyota. Very sharp compared to the other two.
Ford or Chevy for me but not sure which one
I've been seeing more and more new Colorados on the road and I really like them.
I have a trail rated office chair. I just decided that it is, and I had a stamp made. I think I backed over a jellybean once. Definitely trail worthy.
Hard to beat a Gladiator. Especially with all the new updates. More Horsepower would make the Gladiator the un questioned king, and I think that's coming soon.
Worst road ride of all. It's not really all new besides interior updates. Jeep motors are trash....
Great video Andre and crew 👍🏻
Does Toyota still offer limited lifetime powertrain warranty? That really sold me on my 21 Tacoma.
Any news on the next Ridgeline with the Trailsport package?
I personally really dislike Honda, based on a personal experience. However, a Ridgeline will fit the needs of 90% of truck drivers.
@@mlow42 I agree. If most truck buyers really reflected on their needs, they’d own a Ridgeline. I’m particularly interested in something with a bit more off road ability, I am hoping the Trailsport covers that. They should still use the same V6 as today’s model, so reliability shouldn’t be an issue. Let’s hope.
@@manbearstigg4037 I had bought a 2014 tundra and only had it for 3 months before I fully realized I personally didn't need pretty much any of what it had, switched to a 4runner for off-road capability and people/storage space. Glad I did.
@@xxtm72xx63 4Runners are SO good. Good choice.
@@manbearstigg4037counterpoint if paying $30k+ for something it needs to meet more than just the basic needs. Has to meet wants and aspirations. A used $15k basic transportation appliance would be different though.
Colorado Bison takes the cake.
The taco is tempting
The Ranger Raptor is a super truck & the most bad ass in the segment. I would buy the Tacoma TRD Off-Road, but I’m scared it will cost over $50k. I will most likely buy the GMC Canyon AT4 in the $47k range.
2023 TRD Off-road starts at 38k. They will NOT raise the price to 50k. I would be surprised if it starts more than 42k. That is already 10% increase. Toyota wants to stay segment volume leader.
I hear you and I'm in the same boat. $3k more upfront, but you'll retain your value with the Toyota... Better investment
They aren’t “Midsized “. They’re overpriced Toy Trucks 🤡
@@zoobrizz prices go up.... That's life. Toy truck? Possibly more fun to drive but practical for a lot of people. Guys driving jacked up super duty trucks that don't tow/haul are driving "toys".
If they really expect us to pay 70k for a midsize truck then we are really dumber than we think we are. It’s sad that you can’t get a decent trim truck under 40k anymore, pretty much all of the trucks have you paying minimum 50k and that’s not even with leather seats in most brands, sad
Keep needs more power in those gladiator.
It’s getting hot in here!