2024 Jeep Gladiator Disappointments- Reasons Many People Dont Like Them
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- 2024 Jeep Gladiator Disappointments- Reasons Many People Dont Like Them
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1. Nobody buys a jeep for gas mileage
2. Solid axles is WHY we buy Jeeps because the articulation is better than IFS. Which is why they are better than all other off road vehicles like Tacomas, Colorados etc
3. Removable panels is the Jeep brand
4. Literally EVERY carmaker tiers their models like this
5. I agree they should have offered a new motor like they did in the Wrangler
6. They are priced high BUT they are purpose built vehicles like no other and can go anywhere
7. The Gladiator does not compare to the Ranger or Colorado because those others cant do what a Jeep can. Jeeps are not a vehicle that can be compared across classes because no other vehicle is as capable
Lastly, any of the things you mentioned would mean that person never wanted a Jeep to begin with. Jeep people dont care about any of those things when buying one other than the price but in the end we know it would cost the same or more to make another vehicle as capable.
I agree with that. All except the msrp price tag. Thank God they offer great deals
Well stated! I am in my 2nd gladiator rubicon (2021 and 2022) and absolutely love it - for the reasons you listed here
I agree. True Jeeper’s don’t buy it for gas mileage or aerodynamics, it’s all about the off-road adventure and freedom it gives you. Yes the prices are ridiculous considering I paid $36k for my new wrangler back in 2017. I didn’t get the Rubicon because I wanted to build it like I wanted but now I wish I had bought the Rubicon. So, $36k to now $50-55k for a sport. That’s a considerable jump. I want a Gladiator Rubicon but I’m disappointed they don’t give more engine options. That’s my biggest negative along with the pricing. It is what it is though.
@jacobyoung7092 sure would be nice if they shocked us all and dropped the new hurricane motor in the wrangler and gladiator.
That’s it.❤✌️
If you bought a new Jeep before Covid, drive it until the wheels fall off cause you’ll never pay those prices again.
50k for a truck with manual crank windows is ridiculous.
Yep all new truck prices are brutal. But the gladiator msrps are up there! Thank God they run discounts and specials and can be negotiated
Prices are coming down slowly, but what made people think they could start marking up their prices for their used cars? People are nuts.
It's All Games People Play. Just like
You said! Maybe they will get it. With
Enough Just Collecting Dust And Rust?? 🙃😎🙂
Good rant I agree which is why I never pulled the trigger On this vehicle. No matter if it has 15-20k discounts. That’s just 1-2 year of depreciation from sitting On the lot. Then it drops another 10-15k once’s you drive off with it. 💸
I love these trucks. And for 15 to 20k off they are excellent buys with super strong resale. But at msrp they are a little tok steep
@@SamkoWorkShop yes sir rubicon eco diesel all the way
This is what a jeep is. My father used to say “Any car older than three years will be considered an old car, but Jeep will always be a legend.”❤✌️
I would agree with that
I got a 23 Willys right after Christmas. All options and 6 year warranty for $43k. I am damn happy with that! The backseat space is great for my baby's car seat. Already taken it on a few trails and had the doors and roof off multiple times. It's a great truck!
Outstanding! Great deal on an amazing truck
I live in Houston Texas and I'm telling you that most Jeeps here are tricked out Mall Crawlers. Over 95 percent of Jeeps in Houston will never leave the pavement. These machines were designed for off- road, instead purchased as a status symbol. The ironies of life...
Definitely is a popular mall crawler. But love thst people take pride in their vehicles and want to mod them out, even if they don't off road
I guess you don’t understand what a Jeep is about if you believe they’re only built for offroad. Since its introduction to the military the purpose of the vehicle was to get you in and out of any terrain. So today many of your mall crawlers want a vehicle for the “just in case” roads are snowy rocky uneven flooded I know with the jeep I’m getting home and people like that kind of insurance in their back pocket. And of course there are overlanders who don’t plan to bang up their expensive ass Jeep on rocks for fun but want to camp etc. This is a utilitarian vehicle and now as a pickup it’s a vehicle every one should own I mean if they can afford it because Stellantis is trying to price us out !!
The jeep crowd doesn't make purchases for airodynamics or gas mileage, even road noise.
Agree 100%.
@@SamkoWorkShop
Then why even make that something you talk about? In fact, it was the FIRST THING you talked about. 🤦♂️ Sorry, but you rendered everything else you said irrelevant by making that initial nonsensical statement.
@LeopardAppaloosa755 glad we got that sorted. If you watch it again I was talking about the "common complaints". I own and love a gladiator!
My gripe is that they discontinued the 3.0 diesel, I REALLY wanted that engine in a gladiator 😒
Yep government pushing hard to get rid of diesel is the usa. Sucks too. Love diesels
American government, rest of the world loves Diesel engines.@@SamkoWorkShop
From what I heard, they are bringing in the hurricane engine, since the recent 3 liter diesel actually had some pretty bad flaws, might be worth waiting for
The 3L diesel was an Italian made POS. Be lucky they killed that engine in the Jeep Gladiator.
Don't worry, you aren't missing much with that Diesel 😉
Purchase a 2023 new leftover Willys this March 2024 MSRP was $58,300 paid $40k at 40k The vehicle is worth its price at 58K I would not have purchased it. It’s not worth that kind of money.
Agree..would of never bought mine at msrp either. Not worth msrp.
Last year I wanted to buy a Gladiator to replace my '16 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd Ecodiesel. My dealer was reluctant to take an order for an Ecodiesel JT. So I bought the lowest priced JLU on the lot, and kept my Ram 1500.
The prices are a killer of all vehicle sales. My wife has an '18 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4wd 6.7 Cummins, that we bought for $48k. Today a similar vehicle is $67k on the dealer lot. The dealers load up the options. But a 4wd vehicle should never have carpet!!!! It might be okay to have carpeted floor mats.
Agree prices today are crazy. But love every vehicle you just mentioned.
Prices are still way high for lower trims. My local dealer has several 23 sport s msrp 62k. That’s stupid!
Yep msrp prices are insane. That's why thry don't sell any until year end sales
@@SamkoWorkShop I’m seeing many dealers videos of the 25 Ram. You should test drive one and review it….
@@SamkoWorkShop weren't the dealers discounting then by like 15-20% a few weeks ago. I was almost tempted to buy one instead of the zr2 I got.
@@robertopics that was for the left over 23s. And those are definitely the smart buy if you can still find them. None left down here in south GA anymore.
got mine 3 weeks ago. 23 rubicon it was only 44
Everything you laid out is why I went from my 2021 Rubicon to a 2023 ecodiesel Rubicon when I did. Part of my build was full skids. It doesn’t take much for something like a rock or stump to cause 10k+ worth of damage off road. Again 95% of folks will probably never use it as a Jeep, but it’s the only Solid axle midsize pickup you can get in the US.
The skids are a great idea! And the diesel is amazing. And agree 100% on loving the solid front axle!
I'd probably buy one if Jeep ever released a Rubicon 392 version
Would love a 382 Mojave with a front locker!!!
It will never happen. Go to AMW for a 35K engine swap.
And it would be OVER 100,000
People that complain about the gas mileage are also the same people that don't get bigger tires. I've seen multiple reports now of the new Tacoma on 35s getting the same exact if not worse gas mileage than I do on my gladiator.
Agree. I didn't buy a gladiator for gas mileage. I bought it because no other truck can go where it can
Good job on your videos! I went from a 3rd gen Tacoma for 5 years, to a 23 Silverado 1500 LTZ Duramax and sold it because of transmission issues at 40k miles. I just picked up a 23 Gladiator Rubicon manual. Really neat truck, I have 1500 miles on it so far. Its been 8 days lol. I have become used to the wind noise but it is loud. I'm in your neck of the woods outside of Savannah, this wind over the last few days has been blowing this jeep around on the highway so I'm still trying to get used to the amount of corrections I have to make to keep it straight. Also since 700 miles I've been getting a "Service Transmission" warning but I'm pretty sure its not an actual issue and is some kind of software issue. One other thing, I have noticed an issue where it momentarily cuts power like it misfires in 3rd and 4th sometimes. I test drove a 24 Tacoma manual yesterday and the rev hang is insane, it completely killed the enjoyment of that vehicle. Overall since I paid like 42k for a pretty loaded Rubicon with a color matched hard top I am happy with it and think nothing touches that. You are right, price is 100% the biggest issue with them.
I'd take it in and let warranty fix whatever issue it's having. But you are gonna love it!
High winds do blow it around a bit. Drove from Jacksonville to home in the winds yesterday. Adventure..lol.
Yep not impressed with the new tacoma I4 either.
What can you tell us about the corrosion issues they have been plagued with?
I can tell you mine doesn't have it and nobody in my group of 14 other jeep owners has it. I have zero concerns about it.
Nice vid! The gladiator is the perfect combination if you love wrangler and Ram 1500, plus endless possibilities for personalization.
Agree 100%
I feel like for 70k you should be getting a top trim full size truck or a lower trim heavy duty diesel truck.
That's why nobody buys a gladiator at msrp. Or any ram for that matter. Negotiate. Huge savings
In any case, if you are going to make after market modifications, do not pay for a Rubicon or Mojave package, look for the most basic.❤✌️
That can work too
I own a 22 Gladiator Rubicon.
Biggest problem I see is PRICE!!!! How can Jeep justify $65-68K for a loaded Rubicon or Mojave when the MSRP for a Ranger Raptor is ONLY $55K. Wind noise, steering precession (or lack there of), and MPG are also issues. Despite all of this I LOVE my Gladiator.
Yep msrp price is stupid high. But if you get a deal on them they are my favorite vehicle I've ever owned!
@@SamkoWorkShop Agree completely. Problem is Jeep was offering huge discounts on 23s thus killing the value of any used models.
@SteveH98264 true. But I believe in 2 months when all 23s are sold off the value of used will skyrocket for 6 months until hopefully jeep discounts thr 24s again that aren't selling. So it's all about catching the windows of opportunity I think.
Where are you seeing Ranger Raptors for $55K? They're over $70K in my neck of the woods.
@@paulmccain7072 Its 58k for a raptor ranger. anything more is basically mark ups. Never pay markups. You dont have to.
Aloha Sam. This is a terrific video on this topic. You provide great points in your observations and analyses.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
Such a unique vehicle! Love it!
I do too. So perfect for my lifestyle
I bought a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Max Tow loaded with LED light package. Paid $42,000 back then. I have since built it up with 37s, falcon terra flex suspension, and front locker with LSD in the rear. It’s been a fantastic off road experience. The Max Tow has a lot of bonuses for a sport model.
Love it! And love that you added the front locker! It's the one that matters most. Have a video about that coming out soon.
Sounds like a beautiful truck!
‘21 Mojave owner here: The only thing I’d like updated is the inline 6 twin turbo. I’d buy one in a second.
Would be so amazing! But I'd love it if thry put a front locker in the Mojave. I love that jeep but I have to have the front locker in the swamps. I want a Mojave with a front locker bad!!
Gladiator that gets "about 20 mpg," is about 5 mpg more than I've ever gotten with the 3 I've owned.
I get 18.7 at 70mph with mine and I have 35x11.50s. But as soon as I hut the highways that fly and end up doing 80 or 85 with traffic it drops to 17.
i love my Gladiator Rubicon i went with the mopar 2 inch lift and 35x11.5 17s its unstoppable.
Such an amazing truck! Agree it's so capable! And love the 35x1150s
Got the '23 Gladiator Rubicon with a deep discount I battled for and I love it. I wouldn't get the '24 one because at least of price, and like you mentioned in other videos the windshield antenna - which is totally lame.
Congratulations on the amazing deals on the 23! Love mine and bet you are loving yours too!
lambo's are stupid too because i want one but they ask to much for them too 😆
More of a Porsche 911 guy myself😂
One of the local dealers to me has 32 glads and 58 wranglers in stock. ‘24 glads are marked down 6-8k. And wranglers are 4-8k depending on trim level. All the glads except for the sport s are 8k off. And the dealer is talked to said they have more glads incoming. I live in ohio about an hr from toledo too. Dealers around here are piling up with new jeep inventory and they cant move it
Love hearing that! Means I will get a banging deal when I buy my next one next year
A lot of really good points. It all boils down to how much money they can get out of you.
Very true. And the sales guys do alot of training to make it emotional for you and suck every penny they can out of you.
I agree with you on the pick and chose options. I believe all Wranglers should come standard from the factory with a trailer hitch/aux switches package. Some people may not tow, but they are certainly going to add a light or two.
Agree 100%
I’ve owned 14 jeeps and pretty much my entire adult life never been without a Jeep I love them, recently I’ve owned a jeep 392 and I cheated I had a bronco raptor, I recently purchased the gladiator because of the huge sales they’ve been having and after the purchase I immediately modified it lift kit tires etc. etc. the usual builds and it comes to life when you do that, The gladiator has completely grown on me and I love it, it tows and handles much better than the standard wrangler/Rubicon, I do tow a modified off-road teardrop trailer and it works so well, and it’s a nice change having a Jeep that has a pick up truck bed, I recommend the gladiator and if you can find a 2023 model the sales are incredible and we are still fortunate in the United States that we can get a 4 x 4 that’s built on a solid frame that we can modify with no limits. In regards to mpg nothing I’ve ever owned has gotten incredible fuel economy, yes I wish it got better gas mileage but it’s still similar to everything else on the market. Jeep has done a great job with the gladiator!!!
Glad you love the gladiator too! It's the funnest and most capable truck I've ever owned. And it daily drives great too. I've owned 4 wranglers over the years and loved them. But the gladiator offers that with a truck bed! Love it.
I guess this is for non-Jeep owners. I love my Mojave, but you are spot on with the horrendous fuel economy. The ride of the Mojave is much better than my JL Rubicon. However, it makes more sense to get a full size truck. Better fuel economy and better power and more towing. Suggest you learn the reason for the Mojave. It is different for a reason. Mojave is for sand and desert running. Rubicon is for more off-roading.
I 100% understand everything about the Mojave and what it's designed for. But why not make it the ultimate jeep gladiator. For less than 100 bucks in parts jeep could of added the front locker and the sway disconnect making it both a desert runner and a rock crawler. I care nothing about rocks. But in the mud and sand the front locker is huge! And it would of been so easy for jeep to take it to this level
Or at least make it an "add on"/option to the Mojave package 🤔
@davealin2431 that would work perfect too. Any way to get the factory locker on it would be great
I am hoping that they come out with a 2 door model and a longer bed,.
That would be pretty awesome
$15K discounts and they still can't move them!
They are selling the 23s like crazy. And love that jeep is learning that to move them well price has to come down. Such an amazing truck
Ummm they are selling and peeps are getting great deals on a cool rig!
@DUNEATV yep they sure are. Hope the same happens again when I'm ready for my next one!
@itsallminor6133 jeep wrangler 4xe is the number one selling hybrid suv last 3 years and non hybrid is just a smidgen behind the 4xe. And it's been around and selling well for 80 years. Something tells me jeep is doing just fine
I love my 2021 Rubicon Gladiator. But you are right on in your video. I couldn’t agree more. I paid way too much.
Wish jeep would under stand how many of these they would sell if they just lowered the price. Such a great truck.
I drove Wranglers from the time I was 16 until 5 years ago. I am 46 now. I LOVED the Wrangler, but even I can explain what the hell Jeep is thinking. No more Sahara in a 2 door. In order to get color matched fender flares and top I have to spring for a Rubicon. Why? I don't need the transfer case. I don't need sway bar disconnects. I don't need the 4:10 gears. We all asked for a V8 for YEARS. Could they give a 5.7 hemi? No. Of course not. They give us a 392 in a 4 door only with horrible gas mileage...and still only in a Rubicon. ANYWAY, I digress. This is about the Gladiator. It's just effin ugly. Yes, it looks great from the front, but that is the ugliest truck bed of any truck. I know it's subjective, but as a guy who loves Wrangler styling, I think it says something. Jeep missed the boat with the Gladiator. Removeable top and doors? GREAT! Better idea--- Make a half ton Jeep truck. Base it closer to the old Kaiser trucks, give it a 5.7 or a diesel. That brings me to the next gripe. It isn't very good at most TRUCK things. It can't haul much. It can't tow much. It has very little storage. When I finally left the Wrangler behind, I considered a Gladiator for about 3 seconds.... Final reason? Price. For what you are getting, it is absolutely ridiculous. I agree with the earlier comment who mentioned they expected much more from a 60-70k Vehicle. On the good side, I didn't completely leave the family. For nearly 3 years I have been VERY happily driving a Ram 1500 Limited with Ramboxes and the air suspension. Am I going to go trail running in that vehicle? No, of course not. It's a luxury pickup. For the same price I could have had a Gladiator with a third of the luxury, an ugly profile, and bad gas mileage... BUT I could have taken the top and doors off! Nah, If I want another Wrangler, I'll buy a Wrangler. Just my .02. Cheers!
sounds like a gladiator is not for you. Congrats on your ram 1500.
I have a Mojave and I love it. I would much rather have a simple port injected V6 that is more reliable than a direct injection turbo. And they are the only vehicle with solid axles that can handle off road terrain. Independent suspension breaks easy and offers no articulation.
Agree jeep is amazing. It's my favorite truck I've owned. I love it.
Absolutely!!! Could not agree more!! The price blows my mind (even more so than the price of the new Tacoma)!
I’ve never been inside a gladiator, but really want to test drive one, because it’s an appealing vehicle, for all the pros that you’ve mentioned before!
I like my Ram quad cab, but after doing some research, the gladiator has more rear seat leg room and space than my Ram 1500!
But $60k-$70k is just stupid!
Yep gladiator msrps are always insane. But they offer deals at the end of the year that are pretty good plus you can usually negotiate more
@@SamkoWorkShop there’s still a handful of 2023s up here in New England… that I’m sure could be negotiated off lots!
@@KevinEdge81 yep never been a better time to buy one
The Mojave isn't supposed to be a rock crawler or mudbogger. It's a dessert runner. This it doesn't need front lockers or full skids. The Rubicon is the top trim and made for hardcore technical off-roading, which is usually slow crawling so extra frame reinforcement isn't needed. Jeep isn't missing the mark. They survey and see what people want.
As far as prices, I just looked and a Ranger Raptor starts at $57k then add the "market adjustment" ford dealers all do. Also factor in the 25% inflation for 2018 when you could get a Sport for $35k. Tack on union demands for more money and guess what. We the consumer have to pay more money.
True. But I still want a majave with a front locker!
I have a 2020 Rubicon with 65K miles on it. No real problems and heavily modified. You are right, pricing with Stellantis is a joke. They need to reduce MSRPs to stay competitive. If Teslas are reducing prices to move product, they need to do the same. Just to put in perspective. I paid 56K out the door for a fully loaded Rubicon 4 years ago.
Yep prices are the biggest problem and really the only problem with a gladiator
I bought the Gladiator because I wanted a bed and the ability to take the doors and roof off, I wanted the solid front axle and lockers. I use mine for overlanding/camping and hitting the trails. Most people who buy the other trucks, dont really do much besides mall crawl in them. They buy the 4x4 for the appearance package and traction control.
The gladiator sure is a fun vehicle off road and love the freedom panels off. Have not taken doors off yet and probably won't. But such a fun capable truck
Way To Go.
Tell it Like it Is! ⭐️⭐️⭐️🙃
Glad you enjoyed it
Price point is the main issue. I agree
Yep but if they have deals again like last fall it's worth waiting and buying then for huge savings
2023 Rubicon EcoDiesel msrp 75,795. I got 23,023 off of sticker. Drove it home last week. Happy camper here.
Absolutely outstanding! Congratulations on a great deal and an amazing vehicle!
Great point!! Jeep owners break their jeeps with all their garbage mods. This car is perfect from the factory.
Agree 100%. Majority of jeep problems are owner inflicted
You just complained about a jeep being a jeep. The frame issue options, point made. Want better gas mileage, take the top off and roll down the windows. It's a jeep. Let the Jeep be a jeep.
I said these are things "other people" complain about! I own and love my 23 gladiator rubicon. Best truck made for my lifestyle. But I make disappointment videos on all brands to help people find what's best for them
You nailed it: price is the #1 problem with the Gladiator. I want a midsize truck to tow a small camper, haul camping gear, and do light off-roading. I will shop a Sport S with the Max Tow Package, but at 55K, it is $10K more expensive than other nicely optioned midsize 4WD/AWD trucks. I am buying at the end of 2024, so if the Gladiator is competitive with other midsize trucks in price, I will consider it. Also hoping the Gladiator Sport S with the Max Tow Pkg will also come with 1,500 lbs +/- of payload like the GM twins, the Ranger, and the Ridgeline. Disappointed in the Tacoma and Frontier in terms of payload despite being nice trucks.
Love that you are shopping now and doing your research. This ensures you get the right truck and best deal when the time comes in a few months
@@SamkoWorkShop absolutely. Thanks!
If Jeep made an extended-cab version with more Bed , i would not be able to resist
A 6 foot bed would be great. But it's a long truck already with all the inside room. A foot longer and the off road angles would get worse. I think that's why jeep won't do it
@SamkoWorkShop They could leave the wheelbase as is and take a foot off the rear of cab and have an ample extended cab, add that foot to the bed length
@@signkutter9218 Like a half rear cab size with a 6 foot bed! I like it!
@SamkoWorkShop exactly like Chevy used to.make with that third rear door...or nissan king cab
The dealers really killed the Gladiators up here in the northeast. While Jeep was offering discounts last year the dealers were increasing their MSRP then using the "jeep discount" to bring the prices back down to the original MSRP. I would blame them first for killing the sales of these. 2nd point some of the oem tire packages until you get up to the Mojave and Rubicon models do nothing for the looks of these. At least from the factory. 3rd as far as the solid axle complaints we've become a nation of pansies. Just my 3c.
Yep stock sport tires don't look all that good on a truck this size and shape
I agreed with everything u say..
Glad you enjoyed it
I have the Mojave and the wondering did go away almost completely when it reached 5K miles. My guess is that the new tire tread amplified the wondering and I have gotten acclimated to it.
I would not let this behavior influence the purchasing decision.
I love the way a solid front axle vehicle wanders a bit. Makes driving fun and you feel part of the experience. In a world where people want cars to drive themselves and vehicles thst can parallel park for you and back your trailer up for you, I am the complete opposite. I love the input from the road, I love backing up trailers with my own skill. The gladiator is the most fun truck ever made as well as the most capable off road truck ever made. I would not change a thing except the price and sure wish jeep would put a damn front locker in the mojave!
The rear departure angle, WAY over priced and fiat engineering.
Ive got a '05 Wrangler thats modified that WILL run circles around a gladiator and have NO WHERE near the price of a gladiator in it. Ive wheeled with a Rubicon gladiator and he couldnt keep up. 😂
Glad you are loving your 05! They were excellent
Apples to oranges in comparison
That’s unfortunate because I was able to build a hard top on their site for 42k. Im sure it’s next to impossible to find one but it’s worth mentioning. On a separate note, the break over angle on the gladiator isn’t fantastic either
Break over is not great but neither is the new tacoma, colorado or ranger with how much bigger they are getting
@@SamkoWorkShop agreed
Absolutely agree. They should change their trims to equate different suspension and axle setups. Rubi as it is, Sport with IFS, Sahara with all indi. So ppl could choose whichever route they’d want to go; rock crawling, overlanding, or speed/handling/comfort etc.
No doubt the prices on all vehicles have inflated but American vehicles, especially the jeep wrangler platform offers purpose built and rightly equipped for off-road, plus the most modular rig.
Wrangler/Gladiator is a very good platform for overland utilitarian metal top SUV, like the LC70 and old Defender.
I don’t know what the Stellantis’s marketing and pricing strategy is but as an off-road enthusiast, I fear their lack of sales may end one of the last few mass built purpose built combustion motor vehicles at attainable prices.
I would agree #1 con is price for most people. Otherwise, it's for Jeep Wrangler buyers who need a pickup. I bought a 21 Willys (@ $39K sales price) to replace my 2006 Frontier and ended up keeping the Frontier and selling the Gladiator to CARMAX. Did not like the Pentastar/6MT powertrain combination. It's 'not' a low end torque powerplant...
Thats why there are so many great trucks from many different manufactures. Something for everyones taste.
A rubicon is a rock crawler not a high speed runner. You want the frame to flex a little, unlike when you are jumping dunes.
Good point
I would buy one if i they gave me more for my wrangler rubicon lol. I need the space from that 5feet bed
Yep the gladiator prices if no big deals available is hard to swallow
As you have clearly indicated, there is no reason as to why certain items should come with the high dollar price tag. There isn’t a Jeep made that’s worth $70,000 plus dollars. I once owned a Gladiator Overland two years ago that was full loaded to a Rubicon accessories. Had to order it but I got what I needed. I paid $52,789. For this truck. Got rid of it due to oil problems dry starts that Chrysler could fix on all their V6 engines. Now that same Jeep is near $75,000 for a cheap Jeep. No more Chrysler products. Junk! And Chrysler don’t care.
Yep msrp prices are crazy stupid on these. But thankfully jeep is learing that and now offering huge deals. Hopefully they continue to do so.
Put a turbo 4 in it I'm out.
You don't need a f diff for the intended purpose.Its not a rock crawler it's an open area runner.
For 209 bucks one simple adition to steering the wondering will be gone.
What if I wanted both a desert runner and a rock crawler? Only thing stopping thst from being all available in one is the f locker and the sway disconnect. Would thst be too much to ask for
@@SamkoWorkShop buy both, some of us don't need or want a f locker.
@spartanj2957 wouldn't it just be easier, better and cheaper if jeep put a front locker in the Mojave?
Know your a JT / Jeep fan as I am & I agree with you on some things but not everything , first it's a box but so is the JL & they sell fine . Second I'm told the reason the 2.0 turbo isn't in the Gladiator is because it's to light & can't get the trail rated badging due to this . I know you gotta know this already but the Rubicon is built to go offroad & hit some rock trails hence the Rubicon name whereas the Mojave is built to go fast in the sand where the locker isn't needed as much in this situation. Let's be honest on fuel economy & some other issues , us Jeepers aren't as concerned with the fuel economy especially since most of us are gonna lift & install way bigger tires on. As far as wondering on the road I just haven't experienced it to the point I wanna buy something else & it can be made better . The price is a big issue but I honestly don't see more being offered for the save or less money from Toyota and others , I actually thought of picking up a TRD instead of the JT but once I looked into them I realized there just as much when comparing equal to equal. As far as road noise from having removable roof/panels i haven't experienced noise due to these options & ive owned alot of Jeeps over the years Appreciate the videos & your insights these are just my thoughts as well.
I agree with everything you said. And this was a very hard video to make as there are so few disappointments with the gladiator. It's outstanding. But I had to make it as I made one on every mid size truck to help people make the best decision for them. So I tried to mention things thst are brought up often. But agree 100 with you it's not very loud, drives great and is such a capable vehicle.
I’d say I seem to get great gas mileage but then again my previous and only car was a 1987 Cherokee and I felt like I filled up weekly. It has cons but I don’t care, it’s my dream car 😂.
Yeo everything has some pros and cons. The gladiator for me is way more pros than cons. I love it
A gladiators is a bigger wrangler perfect for adventure like camping kayaking overlanding. A wrangler is perfect for harsher terrain. You want to tow ? Buy something else.... No reason for all the hate when you understand the purpose of it.
Agree 100%. Thats why I said "these are the complains other people have". I own and love my gladiator rubicon
Make a 2 door one! Like in the movie tremors
A 2 door Would be awesome
I'm really stuck between jeep and Ineos.
With jeep parts are everywhere, but crap reliability.
With eneos they are superb, very reliable, but few parts..
Always cracks me up when I hear jeep has bad reliability. Today in 2024. I'd trust jeep more than any other brand. Yes even more than toyota. And much more the ineos until it's proven. But both sure are great vehicles.
@@SamkoWorkShop imo jeeps do have crap reliability, actually worse than land Rover as far as reliability goes.
While I love my Mojave it comes with a lot of negatives. But that's the price you pay for the positives. At the end of the day the Gladiator does things no other truck offers.
Agree 100% I think the gladiator is the best truck for my lifestyle!
@@SamkoWorkShop I needed a midsize truck that fit my family of four comfortably. Well that can be done by all midsize trucks. But we love to go to the beach, I have always wanted a convertible, and I love trail riding. So.....the obvious choice was a Gladiator.
@wusaint and the gladiator does all of those very well. And more backseat space than any of the others.
Word on the street is the Hurricane is a little too long for 2024 and older Wranglers and Gladiators. Saw somewhere what seemed to be wrangler rubicon prototype. It had slightly longer front end presumably to fit the new hurricane. 2024 Glad Rubicon and Mojave are $7000 to $10000 off MSRP here in Houston, TX. Puts most $51k-$55k and jumps to $59k on the X levels. Not terrible, but it's tough competition with ZR2 right there $49k-$52k. Ranger Raptor also tough competition if you can get near MSRP.
Thats sucks. You just crushed my dreams! 😂 in reality it probably would of been 100k anyway and out of my leauge
A Ford dealer near my home has a Ranger Raptor advertised with a $15,000 mark-up on top of MSRP.
@@SamkoWorkShop The smart play would be simply pay off glad and do it through America's Most Wanted swap. I believe they're the ones who figured out it wasn't going in with current engine bay length.
@@dvader3263 Few people reporting here they got it within like $2500 of MSRP, which is nice to hear.
@dvader3263 yep raptor ranger mark ups are gonna be very common. Their criminal and crap dealers, but it's gonna be common.
Jeep management is threatening to ruin the brand by price gouging. They need too drop the prices $10K to be competitive. I can get a Tacoma TRD or a Z71 for about$50K.
Jeep is definetly priced high! But seems like the buyers has put their foot down and forced them to run big sales at the end of the year to move them. hopefully jeep will do the same again.
They should have made a single cab version with a 6.5 foot bed. And no need for fold-down windshield, removeable roof and doors. Who ever removes those? The visibility really sucks. We have a 2024 JLU and a XJ. XJ hands down has the best visibility.
I think the view is better than any other mid size truck out there. I take my freedom panels off all the time. I had an xj (2 of them actually) they are great, but Ill take the gladiator anyday. and for me a single cab version would be pointless and I dont need a 6 foot bed. Point being what some like other dont.
For me I hate the look needs 37s a slight lift etc minimum to look decent rear taillights even uglier 🤮. Dated power train with questionable reliability I know some say otherwise but i dont trust it Then MSRP haha GTFO. So u would need to add minimum 10k+ to get it up to par in looks department. Even with the massive discounts saw Rubicons for 47k to 50k then add on the 10k+ in mods just not worth it. If u could get a Rubicon for low $40k range, I would definitely be much more willing to jump in.
They sure do look great with 37s.
You are not wrong
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Needs more power.
More power would be nice!
The down side is the damn price
Very true
I get that truck prices are out of control, but most of the things that Gladdy owners complain about are things that they should have known going into it. Honestly, a Gladiator is a much better machine than a Tacoma, Frontier, Ranger, Colorado Etc, due to its capability. Gladdy owners that complain about steering or wind noise, or MPG are those that drive a jeep cause they want to look cool when they buy flowers at home depot on the weekends... Those of us that actually take their Gladdy's and wheel them, never scratch our heads in regret. We never say, "Man, I should have bought a Tacoma... they have that cute little crawl button...."
Due your research and buy a truck that suits your needs, don't just buy a JT Rubicon for Mall crawling, then bitch and complain cause your MPG is bad, or the steering is squirrely. Sack up and buy a truck for your needs, stop the JT bashing!
That's why I said in the video "what other people complain about". I own a 23 glad ruby and love it. But I make disappointment videos for all trucks and all brands to help people buy what's best for them. These complaints are what many people complain about after they buy one. Myself personally I love mine and it's the best truck for my lifestyle
@SamkoWorkShop I agree, I have a 22 sport that's built and it's the best truck I've ever owned.
I have a 2021 they are a great midsize pickup but they are crazy overpriced.
They sure are great and over priced
They are like other vehicles today way over priced by greed.
Very true
The paint is blistering on all JL's and JT's, It is a 5 yr warranty, but the corrosein and blistering paint will always comeback.
I hear people say thst but have never seen it in person on any of the hundreds of jeeps I look at and of the 17 people I know personally with jl or it's not one has thst issue. If it does happen I'd just have jeep fix it under warranty. If it came back I'd have em fix it again. But I don't think it's that common of jeep would of fixed it along time ago.
unfortunately my '22 Gladiator Rubi (3.6 pentastar) has been a disaster - front locker went out, aux battery died just on the year aniv. like it was programmed to fail :), 4wd sensor broke. Latest: very loud lifter pinging with just 23k miles... - sounds like an 80's Mercedes diesel - just embarrassing.
I would imagine all things jeep is fixing under warranty. So should be all good to go soon. Then you can sell it and try something different to see if that's any better
Your wrong about wanting a 2.0 turbo on a gladiator. Stay with the bigger non turbo long term
Agree. Never said I wanted the 2.0 turbo. Said I wanted the hurricane inline 6 twin turbo in one.
Ive been in the market for three years or two vehicles. Gladiator and the family size SUV. Three years. I’m just paying for vehicles at these prices. Period. I saw the 23s go on sale, but who wants one of those vehicles that been sitting on a lot getting a lot rot for 2 years. No thank you
23s would of 0nly been on the lots for about a year right now. And the deals on them are better than ever. Worth it.
@@SamkoWorkShop 25s will start coming out here in about 3 months
@Jamesthor 24s just hit lots a couple months ago. 25s won't be here for the gladiator until Jan or Feb I bet
You can go to Texas and get a Sport S for 35-38 grand, 42-44 grand will get a Willys.
Those are 2023s. 2024s are msrp right now in most places. But a left over 23 if you can still find one is your best bet with the deals
since Jeep won't give me a V8 in the mojave give me the tigershark
I'm hoping for the new hurricane to make it into jeep wranglers and gladiators
If they'd offer a two door they'd sell like wildfire.
Theu sure would
Box is almost as useless as a maverick’s and they’re $70k. That’s the main downside.
Want better milage,but a rivian
Thanks. I'll stick with my gladiator. Best truck I've ever owned. Love it and don't care about the mpgs (witch are really not bad)
I agree, I have a 2020 launch edition Rubicon gladiator and love it!
Great off road capability…..dependability not very good …. ….way overpriced……
My opinion the one of the most I proven and reliable motor and Trans combos available today. 14 million 3.6 motors on the road with a less than 1% failure rate. That's pretty amazing.
Waaay to much put a hemi some steel skid plates !
Or the new hurricane
I'm a huge fan of the Gladiator Mojave, and I would LOVE one, but I agree they have done bumped their head. I'm a Ram fan but Stellantis has begun driving it into the ground. What a joke. I can get an F150 Tremor or Ram Rebel and even a Silverado ZR2 for 70k. JOKE!!
Agree ram msrp prices are crazy high
You don't buy a Jeep to save on gasoline
True
No. On a 4 turbo.
no choice soon in a mid size.
@@SamkoWorkShop Nissan V6
@@nathanadams8207 only until the next redesign
All Jeeps need a 50% price discount
Not a vehicle available I'd rather have
you can get them with a 4 cylinder though??? The reason why is the engineers that won't fix the problem they think that 15 to 22 mpg is a good thing, in 2024 they can engineer a good engine with 40 mpg plus if they wanted to, it's the CEO and designers won't do it! There it is the TRUTH! I'd Rather get a Mojave than a Rubicon! But until the MPG come up to 30/40 mpg I'm not buying one! If Jeep wants to give me one and I could give them some pointers on how to improve it! It's got to be a Mojave though and after I give them pointers and they make it, i get to trade my free one in to get the new too! That's the Deal! :)
I bought gladiators I never had any win problems I loved the my gladiator amazing truck for off road!
Yep love mine too. Best truck for my life style. And I did a driving impression video showing wind noise is very low. I love this truck.
I got my 2023 for 41k
Outstanding
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real reason why people leave this vehicle: It drives like garbage. "jeepers" get hurt over the solid axle. but its not practical or comfortable for daily driving
I daily drive mine 500 miles a week and love it. And i came from a 2018 f150, 2019 ram 2500 and a 33 tacoma. Much prefer the fun factor of the gladiator and love driving it. Many trips across the country non stop in it already. Love it.
It's simple. They're fugly and over priced.
Must be a jeep thing. Wow overpriced.
Jeeps are amazing! But prices are high. Never pay sticker.
I don’t like these because a wrangler with a truck bed slapped on it is hideous.
Is it really a wrangler or are you just making that up?
They may not appeal to everyone's taste. But I love this truck and it's capabilities
I think it’s so rugged and looks amazing!
@@DUNEATV me too. Unique and tough as nails
It’s so much more than a wrangler with a bed. It’s a wrangler with the back half of a Ram 1500 truck.
Can get a Gladiator for 45, couple years old
Cam get a 23 new rubicon for that right now
@@SamkoWorkShop I'm talking canadian prices
@@peterc8979 thanks for clarification. I just didn't want you to get taken advantage of by a greedy dealer