Lol! Good man. I have both as well. Max will be my primary summer gun since I like to tuck in a polo shirt most days using my Vedder light tuck and it doesn’t print at all plus it’s just so light. I LOVE my 365 with a 507k on it but it’s just that much bigger and heavier that the Max makes more sense for me in summer clothes. YMMV.
Items he missed: Slide stays open when mag emptied, magazine ejector is ambi, double spring guide. 12 round mag increases grip to a 3rd finger. Break-over weight on the trigger is a little under 6 lbs.
I’ve carried an LCP II everyday for a few years not fun to shot but excellent to pocket carry. I picked up a LCP Max a few days ago and the difference are substantial and you have to shoot them side by side to feel the difference. The Max shoots so much better. The slightly wider grip makes it feel like a bigger pistol then it is. The Max grip is about 1/4 inch longer the the LCP II with a 6 round mag but shorter then the 7 round mag. Amazingly the weights empty are exactly the same.
Traded my LCP2 in on one a week or so ago. Got about 120 rounds through it and love it so far. Glad I made the trade because the Max definitely replaced the 2. Just waiting on the 12 round mag to be delivered and it will enter my EDC rotation.
@@patcupolo9274 I had a few stored up but found some remanufactured 380 on the shelf at my local store for about $25 for 50 rounds. So I bought two and but them through it with a few I had already.
Picked up mine a couple weeks ago... LOVE IT! I have managed to put 100 rounds through it (yes I had to break into my back stock but it is worth it) and I am very happy with its performance. I was seriously thinking LCPII, they are a bit skinny in the hand but appealing none the less. I am glad I waited long enough for this come out! The grip is wider, and fits my hand, and several others I have show this too, very nicely. The 10 round mag is supplied with a flush mount base plate, I did swap it our for the supplied finger rest base plate and it works just perfectly for me! I wear Wrangler jeans pretty much always, and the front right pocket works for carry, its comfortable while I am in a vehicle, or at my desk. I forget its there when I'm at the grocery store ect. Empty weight, with holster, is 11.68 oz. Add the 10 + 1 rounds, I see 15.34 oz on my digital kitchen scale. I'm thinking I will get a 12 round mag later on, but frankly the 10 round fits my needs well!
I have the LCPII now and love it, bought the Max 9 about 8 weeks ago and its pretty awesom, then comes the LCP Max. I pick that up from my dealer in the morning.
I carry P32, LCP, RM380 & P365 depending on season and dress- the LCP Max could replace the LCP & RM380- very exciting pistol. Also like that Ruger has the LCP II 22lr as a trainer and their Max 9, Security 9 & Ruger-57 for step ups. Ruger has quietly put together a very nice line up of self defense hand guns.
Bought one about a week ago 200 rounds no issues. Accurate and feels great in my hand. I did find the trigger pinched my finger if I was high on the trigger. After a few pinches I just learned the hard way to keep my finger down closer to the guard.
I wish they would have engineered a slot at the rear so a cover plate could be installed after the gun is assembled so pocket lint wouldn't be able to accumulate in the hammer cutout on the back of the slide.
I was the lucky one that bought one that shoots about a foot low at twenty feet. No, not the shooter, none of my other small pistols have that problem, and I don't have a clue to why, but it stings the trigger finger when you shoot it. I see no reason why it would do this, but it feels like the trigger resets just a little bit when the slide hits the back of the stroke when you fire it. Bullets are not keyholing, but it shows very shallow rifling in the barrel. Just shot it with a good solid rest and got a ''pattern'' of about a foot and way low with it. Have already contacted Rugar about it. So far, Not impressed with the gun at all other than it functions perfectly. And yes, I've tried several different brands and designs of ammo in it and they all shoot the same way.
Grand Power has a small double stack 380acp(CP380)3.3"bbl , but not as small as the LCP Max and very hard to find ...I've been trying to get a hold of the CP380 but now I'm considering the LCP Max
Nice pistol. I would have added a grip safety. Lightweight, light recoiling. What some don’t get is that a 380 in a pistol like this allows several rounds to be placed in a small area rapidly. That increases shocking power geometrically. It penetrates , but doesn’t overpenetrate. I had suggested to Zcoktvyears ago that they produce a pistol like this based on the old 1908. They never did , but this Ruger comes close. Ruger should have some ammo made especially for this pistol. A 100 gr hard cast flat point like the BuffaloBore, or Critical Defense or Federal 95 gr at a legit 950-1000fps from this pistol.
A grip safety would deter from the overall strategy of the Max. Not to mention Ruger has been affirming a shift from the current grip safety to other more suitable preventative measures.
This is a pistol I will definitely have to try before I buy. The original LCP was extremely painful for my old arthritic hands after 3 shots and I ended up selling it. I’m hoping it is easier on my hands than the original.
I have to disagree that it shoots as well as a Glock 42. I have both. I put 200 rounds through my LCP MAX then compared them head to head. I have my own corse of fire that I put my concealed carry guns through. Five present and fire from 10yd, five shots LH from 10yd, five RH 10yd, five shots rapid from 10yd, five shots slow from 15yd. All shots are on a 12X16in steel plate. I've run both guns twice. Both times I got an 88 with the LCP Max with misses in different parts of the corse of fire. Both times I cleaned it easily with the Glock 42. The 42 is heavier, has a longer sight radius, and has a shorter trigger reset. Also the factory Glock night sights are a bit smaller and more precise then the LCP sights. This all adds up a gun that is objectively easier to shoot fast and accurately. Now the grip on the LCP Max feels way better then the Glock. Glock needs to get away from the polymer mags, and make a 42X. Same grip length with a 10rnd steel magazine and a slightly wider grip. Ruger needs to make and LCPEX with the same barrel length and sight radius as the Glock 42. And Smith&Wesson need to beat them both to the punch and make a smaller version of the Shield in 380, like a Glock 42, with a ten round magazine. The LCP Max and the Glock 42 are and aren't appels and oranges. For me I can carry a Glock 42 in my pocket just fine. And while I have less capacity, I'm more likely then not to not need even all of that. Also I'm more likely to make effective hits with the Glock. So I carry thay one. But I also train with and intend to get back into steel challenge shooting with my Glock 34. So that's a factor as well. I like the Max and will keep it. I'm intending to get my wife the Security 380. Once I get her where I want her with that gun I'll transition her to the Max. For her the smaller size is a major benefit. Both the Max and the Glock 42 have strength in different areas. But I consistently out shoot the Max with the 42.
I do hope other manufacturers "chase" the LCP Max. I live in a dense city and find .380 to be my preferred carry. Enough power but less risk of over penetration. I also love the pocket size. I've been carrying the LCP2 for about 5 years now...unfortunately (or fortunately). Looks like I need another ruger! I would love to see some competition in this micro (pocket) double stack 380 world soon! Thanks for the video
Best gun reviewer on TH-cam. Will not be picking this one up, but only because I prefer a S&W .38 snub nose for ultra concealed carry applications. One thought - how about reviewing some aftermarket stocks for common rifle platforms? Remington 700, Ruger 10-22, Mossberg 500 and 590 series, Remington 870.
The slide lock back doesn't work on the one I just bought. The only way I can get it to work its by holding up on the magazine with one of my fingers while pulling back on the slide. There is a fitment problem between the magazine catch and the magazine Notch causing the magazine to set too low in the action. I have not wasted precious and expensive ammo to find out how many failure to feeds a to low magazine is going to cause.
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What hollow points do you you recommend for this? I've heard that Hornady Critical Defense 90gr have the highest velocities for the .380 auto. Great review! Thanks👍
They should make one of these that has like 18-20 rounds of .25 acp. Or make it hold 10 rounds of .25 but make it ultra tiny to complete with those NAA revolvers in .22.
I love my SCCY pistols, have a DVG and a CPX2. Both came with an optic mounted for 360.00 out the door. Stainless and the factory support is the best in the industry.
I cannot hold onto this thing to hit target with the standard mag. I have two 12 rounds on order to hopefully rectify the situation. I am dead on with my bersa thunder and 365 so I am thinking it is the grip.
Try a Hogue or Pachmyer slip grip. $10ish bucks. The slight palm swell can do wonders. Had to trim my Hogue around the magwell, but no problem with scissors or an xacto.
Picked it up last night and put 50 through it this morning. The trigger kept biting my finger. First time I've had that problem. This unit came with some surface rust on the slide mostly around the serrations still trying to remove that. Could not see it with the lighting at the store or I would not have picked it up. This gun rattles when you shake it. It is super light with little to no felt recoil. The gun did not want to take the last round in the mag at first and did not want to accept full mag when inserted at first as well. After it broke in a little bit it took all 10 rounds in mag and gun just fine. Had zero firing issues though. I saw a vid where the guy said the gun was shooting low and left-this unit seems that way too. I could get a nice group if I was aiming at around 2:00. Overall for being my first 380 and costing 380 I like it enough to keep it for the deep conceal ability because it is super tiny. Wondering how long it will last the barrel has very little weight to it. The ammo I used was Winchester 95 gr. Thanks Allen another great vid!
@Texican does your neighbors wife have alot of rounds fired using the 9 rounder? I'm only asking because my ETS 9 and 7 rounders both failed numerous times, no issues with the ETS 12 rounds.
I tried one & the Glock 42 just feels so much better for me, but I highly prefer the Glock grip angle. The LCP Max is thicker, but still feels snapier. The trigger is better than the other LCPs, but I'm still not a fan. I changed a few trigger components on the Glock & I really like the trigger on it. Not too light to be unsafe for carry, but not too heavy to have me pulling shots when rapid firing. I don't carry .380 very often, but I do fire it on a regular basis, so I have put a lot of rounds through the Glock, so maybe I've just gotten used to it.
@@therealhawkeyeii7888 Agreed. For a LEO, the firearm is a threat management tool and a manual safety has saved the lives of officers that routinely carry their firearms exposed and are often subject to disarm attempts. For the armed citizen, whose weapon is meant to enable you to force a break in contact and whose weapon should be carried concealed, the balance of needs favors a "point and shoot" firearm with a manageable trigger.
I did need to replace the takedown pin in my LCPII with MCARBO aftermarket after I observed the factory pin backing out on me....any word if the Max has this issue or if Ruger addressed it with the update?
I'd love to get one, but I had the LCP II in .380, and the extractor broke. Ruger sent a new slide and barrel, then the extractor fell out of the new slide. Right now, I'm not to confident in any LCP. Anyone else know anything about these issues, or why the LCP Max is better? Thanks!
I fired one my friend got & I really don't think it shoots as good as the Glock 42. The Glock just seems like it's significantly less snappy, even though it's thinner.
@@KD-wy2cc I don't really care about the capacity much for pocket carry. I'm not daily carrying .380, so just having my normal 42 with +2 baseplates is 8+1 & more than enough for me. I normally either carry a Glock 23 MOS Gen 5 or a Glock 48 MOS Gen 5. So the 42 is what I go with if I'm just making a quick trip & still have my gym shorts on or something like that. For those scenarios, I will gladly trade a couple rounds of capacity for something I can shoot much better.
Pity they couldn't redesign to make it +P rated. Without getting to 900+FPS expansion isn't likely. Still a good option with Buffalo Bore 100 grain flat hardcast. I'll wait a year till the aftermarket catches up and the prices go down.
There is no SAAMI standard for 380 +P, so you likely won't see any major manufacturers release a 380 that explicitly states it is +P rated as there is no real definition for what that means (unlike 9mm, 38 special & 45 Auto).
@@natebrown4330 Wasn't aware, however Buffalo Bore and Underwood (my preferred choice of self defense ammo) both offer +P options for 380 and the LCP instruction info that comes with the pistol specifically states not for use with +P ammo.
@Texican Thanks for that, very little online information on 380 testing. The Max is an interesting option and after the initial Beta testing sorts out issues and the price drops I may pick one up. Think the BB 100grain flat nosed hardcast looks like a good choice, but with all carry ammo you have to run a few boxes to ensure each individual firearm functions and hits POA.
I just bought one, out of 110 rounds of cc’i blazer brass,and s&b fmj I had 12 failure to go into battery, 3 failures to feed, then the trigger return spring failed.
very cool but this ones not for me the ammo is less powerful and more expensive then 9mm and the gun only holds 10 maybe they will make bigger mags then id say yes
Get the right ammo and it meets the FBIs standard at just over 12" in ballistic gel. I carried the lcp .380 for years and you don't even know you have it on you. It's that light and small. I just upgraded to a sig p365, but when ever I gotta run up to the corner store I grab my lcp and throw it in my pocket.
@@ryanboling1 i prefer the full sized g3 for an all purpose gun myself if i need a more low key gun i have a savage 1917 that runs like the day it was made the ammo even in 32 acp ball does well in 4 inch barrel
@@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 380 ball ammo would do better than 32acp ball ammo, so 13rds of 380 in the lcp max shouldn't make you hesitant to carry it.
Kel Tec P11 predated the p365 by more than a decade. Sig did not start this, The Sig Fanboys did, when they gave Sig credit for creating something they didn't create.
@@deathbymazda I the same way that if Sig put their logo on a dog turd, all the fanbois would buy it and all the other manufacturers would see the opportunity to make money and start squeezing their dogs as well. Except for glock, who will wait 10 years and release the same God damn gun. Pull up the spec sheet for the p365 and the P11 and you'll see they are suspiciously similar. I'm just saying, that's not exactly innovative, and their brand alone is powerful enough to start any trend among competitors.
@@deejayimm I think I’d compare it to HK and Glock with the polymer pistol trend. Sure, HK made the first polymer pistol, but it was so hideously unattractive that the trend never kicked off until Glock made the second, better looking polymer pistol. KelTecs are just fugly, and half their guns aren’t even reliable. So you can’t really blame Sig for KelTecs incompetence. The 365 is just a more attractive gun.
@@deathbymazda I think the vp70 was a victim of timing as well, even in the 80s alot of people were apprehensive about polymers in the Firearms industry. Yea it was ugly, but it was also expensive and right around the same time that people were calling the M16 the Mattel, and the only polymer on it was in the stock and the fore-end. I'll bet people back then were absolutely horrified at the concept of a plastic receiver. Also, I don't think keltec is incompetent, they are just different and I think they like that, I like that about them. They do their own thing and the world needs more companies that don't JUST care about what is profitable. That being said I did not think the P11 was a particularly good pistol, add that to the stigma of the keltec brand, and it's not exactly trendsetting.
You’re right, but Kel-Tec doesn’t move the volume or produce the quality control necessary to make a splash in the industry by themselves. So, Sig (and many others) have taken the concept and run with it. Very successfully, I might add. Just like the majority of inventions, the one who comes up with the idea usually doesn’t have the resources to make it happen. Sig did.
Thought it would be awesome. Was not. The trigger bit me repeatedly , very maddening. Too much space below the trigger. I could keep it from biting , but I had to use a grip that I did not like / much different from what I run on all my other semis. I also thought the trigger break was way too deep ( too far back / close to the grip) - I hate that. But that seems to be a trait of all the LCP line. Test it carefully before you buy. I still have an original LCP with the improved anodized trigger (and yep, even have a Kel-tec - the original original LCP). To me, the LCP original is just as nice to shoot. I also have to disagree with the presenter when he says this new gun is as easy to shoot as a G42. although I no longer have my G42, that gun was significantly larger than this lcp max. Longer barrel. A bit heavier. No way this new Ruger is as easy to shoot as the g42. So while I agree all the LCP guns are pretty decent in recoil overall, the G42 has them beat in that area, likely by virtue of size , barrel, and maybe a bit lower bore axis. For lowest recoil the big browning / beretta is the 380 of choice. I’d suggest avoiding the PPK though, as it seemed a bit snappy and also bit - but with the frame / slide instead of the trigger. also, I had a Sig 9mm kurz some years back, P series, it was also surprisingly snappy - maybe the blow back vs recoil does that? For the micro 380s, my vote stays with the original LCP and a strong second to the Kahr 380 (if they could make the trigger break before it touched the grip, it might make #1). Love the high cap idea, but they need to clean up the ergos. When they moved away from the KELTEC design in the LCP to the LCP II design, just does not seem like an improvement to me.
@E Mak thank you for providing all this information. I carry a glock 42 almost every day and I love shooting it, especially after I added the Hogue grip. It's super easy to shoot and I carry the ETS nine round magazine to up the round count. I am interested in this LCP max, but probably will not buy one just because of what you said about the trigger. No way do I want my trigger finger being pinched again and again because of the trigger and trigger guard design. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Was $379.99 at BassPro, and it's much better than my LCP2 380. With 13rds of decent xtp style 380 bullets, I'm not concerned about it not being enough to get me out of trouble. Most murder victims never knew if it was a 380, 9mm, 40, or 45 that killed them. Location is all that matters. Look at Chicago. There are probably 10-20 gunshot victims who survive for every 1 murder case they get. That's the reality of how generally ineffective handguns are when it comes to killing people. Most don't get hit in the vitals, which is why so many survive with the modern emergency trauma care people receive today.
Great idea and execution. I've yet to see HP ammo for a 2" barreled .380 that does any expansion. A 3-1/2" barrel, yep, a 3", maybe, 2" barrel just takes too much velocity off the bullet to get to expansion threshold velocities. If there is a brand that does it, let everyone know, it would be a rare thing. I have not done much testing with the .380, but the ammo used was supposed to work at lower velocities. It failed at close range (5') into a milk jug full of water. That's not even an effective medium for real life situations, I just wanted to see if it would expand at all, nope. Tried several, no good. Anyone have one they know works from a 2", please post.
@@charliebrown2103 well now you have something else on your gun supply list to pick up one day. They are more useful for bigger more stubborn magazines but they are very nice to save both time and fingers doing lots of loading. Most gun shops have them. They work for .380, 9mm, .45, .40, 10 mm.
Finally a pocket 380 with a good round count and good sights.
Looked at LCP Max and Sig 365 with safety. Couldn't make up my mind so I bought them both.
I carry P32, LCP, RM380 & P365 depending on season and dress- the LCP Max could replace the LCP & RM380
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Sig 365 great as expected. The LCP Max trigger takes getting used to. For A CCW a heavy trigger may be a good thing considering no safety.
@@jacksavage4098 Yeah all my carry are DAO except the P365- what a great gun!
I carry a 365xl and love it. Just bought my wife the lcp max. It seams pretty sweet.
Lol! Good man. I have both as well. Max will be my primary summer gun since I like to tuck in a polo shirt most days using my Vedder light tuck and it doesn’t print at all plus it’s just so light. I LOVE my 365 with a 507k on it but it’s just that much bigger and heavier that the Max makes more sense for me in summer clothes. YMMV.
Items he missed: Slide stays open when mag emptied, magazine ejector is ambi, double spring guide. 12 round mag increases grip to a 3rd finger. Break-over weight on the trigger is a little under 6 lbs.
Ikr what a looser
"Slide stays open when mag emptied"
Yeah, 60% of the time...
I’ve carried an LCP II everyday for a few years not fun to shot but excellent to pocket carry. I picked up a LCP Max a few days ago and the difference are substantial and you have to shoot them side by side to feel the difference. The Max shoots so much better. The slightly wider grip makes it feel like a bigger pistol then it is. The Max grip is about 1/4 inch longer the the LCP II with a 6 round mag but shorter then the 7 round mag. Amazingly the weights empty are exactly the same.
Traded my LCP2 in on one a week or so ago. Got about 120 rounds through it and love it so far. Glad I made the trade because the Max definitely replaced the 2. Just waiting on the 12 round mag to be delivered and it will enter my EDC rotation.
I know what you’re saying, but isn’t calling a gun your EDC then saying you have an EDC rotation mean you don’t actually have a dedicated EDC? Lol.
@@MS07B3-G0UF I mean, you aren't wrong, lol.
We're did get 120 rounds of .380 acp
@@patcupolo9274 stockpiled before the shortage? I have 600 rounds of 9mm from before it was hard to get lol
@@patcupolo9274 I had a few stored up but found some remanufactured 380 on the shelf at my local store for about $25 for 50 rounds. So I bought two and but them through it with a few I had already.
Alan is so super nice. Great guy. If you are driving on I 75 near Dayton OH...stop in.
If a gun is going to be a true pocket carry, it has to be in 380 or smaller caliber from an engineering and shoot ability standpoint I believe. imho.
I love shooting .380 and 10 rounds is amazing.
Sweet little pocket pistol. Thank for the great review Allen.
Picked up mine a couple weeks ago... LOVE IT!
I have managed to put 100 rounds through it (yes I had to break into my back stock but it is worth it) and I am very happy with its performance.
I was seriously thinking LCPII, they are a bit skinny in the hand but appealing none the less. I am glad I waited long enough for this come out! The grip is wider, and fits my hand, and several others I have show this too, very nicely.
The 10 round mag is supplied with a flush mount base plate, I did swap it our for the supplied finger rest base plate and it works just perfectly for me!
I wear Wrangler jeans pretty much always, and the front right pocket works for carry, its comfortable while I am in a vehicle, or at my desk. I forget its there when I'm at the grocery store ect.
Empty weight, with holster, is 11.68 oz. Add the 10 + 1 rounds, I see 15.34 oz on my digital kitchen scale.
I'm thinking I will get a 12 round mag later on, but frankly the 10 round fits my needs well!
Thanks for weight details 🙏🏻
One of the best videos that I see on this pistol. Would have loved to seen what it prints on paper.
380 in Hollowpoint should be fine and of course, shot placement
Just picked up the Max and I have an lcp & lcp 2- Max has an awesome footprint and feel.
The Max feels like solid gold from Ruger
I have the LCPII now and love it, bought the Max 9 about 8 weeks ago and its pretty awesom, then comes the LCP Max. I pick that up from my dealer in the morning.
Not a fan of 380 acp but pretty impressive and a great price point. As usual Allen, great review.
I carry P32, LCP, RM380 & P365 depending on season and dress- the LCP Max could replace the LCP & RM380- very exciting pistol. Also like that Ruger has the LCP II 22lr as a trainer and their Max 9, Security 9 & Ruger-57 for step ups. Ruger has quietly put together a very nice line up of self defense hand guns.
Well said!
I do not like belt holster carry so this would be perfect for the pocket carry crew. The .380 is sufficient esspecally with this capacity.
Great review- subscribed! With this fourth iteration, Ruger has achieved pocket pistol perfection.
Bought one about a week ago 200 rounds no issues. Accurate and feels great in my hand. I did find the trigger pinched my finger if I was high on the trigger. After a few pinches I just learned the hard way to keep my finger down closer to the guard.
LCP Max might be a better carry option than my Beretta 950, I’m probably going to take a closer look at this one
I just tool mine out again today. Groups so well with the grip, trigger and sights. 10+1 or available 12+1 in a pocket comfortably.. Home run Ruger.
I wish they would have engineered a slot at the rear so a cover plate could be installed after the gun is assembled so pocket lint wouldn't be able to accumulate in the hammer cutout on the back of the slide.
I was the lucky one that bought one that shoots about a foot low at twenty feet. No, not the shooter, none of my other small pistols have that problem, and I don't have a clue to why, but it stings the trigger finger when you shoot it. I see no reason why it would do this, but it feels like the trigger resets just a little bit when the slide hits the back of the stroke when you fire it. Bullets are not keyholing, but it shows very shallow rifling in the barrel. Just shot it with a good solid rest and got a ''pattern'' of about a foot and way low with it. Have already contacted Rugar about it. So far, Not impressed with the gun at all other than it functions perfectly. And yes, I've tried several different brands and designs of ammo in it and they all shoot the same way.
Even tho I am a Glock, this is now my conceal carry. With the footprint and weight you forget it’s even there.
Wish they made new double stack 32acp. It’s hard to watch my older relatives struggle with pocket guns even though they are in 380
Grand Power has a small double stack 380acp(CP380)3.3"bbl , but not as small as the LCP Max and very hard to find ...I've been trying to get a hold of the CP380 but now I'm considering the LCP Max
Nice pistol. I would have added a grip safety. Lightweight, light recoiling. What some don’t get is that a 380 in a pistol like this allows several rounds to be placed in a small area rapidly. That increases shocking power geometrically. It penetrates , but doesn’t overpenetrate. I had suggested to Zcoktvyears ago that they produce a pistol like this based on the old 1908. They never did , but this Ruger comes close. Ruger should have some ammo made especially for this pistol. A 100 gr hard cast flat point like the BuffaloBore, or Critical Defense or Federal 95 gr at a legit 950-1000fps from this pistol.
A grip safety would deter from the overall strategy of the Max. Not to mention Ruger has been affirming a shift from the current grip safety to other more suitable preventative measures.
No idea what this man's background is, but he looks like a Marine.
Does he have unexplained bursts of anger/aggression? Semper fi!
MIKE JONES!!!
Works at burger king ft Myers fl.😎
So you’re saying he looks homosexual?
@@BattleFlacid, oh good. The Army is here.
I have a 7 rounds 380ACP Beretta, but I want a Ruger LCP MAX, waiting for them to come to my country.
Got one , very very nice . Have an LCP 2 that will now rest
The lcp max 380 is the best pocket pistol. Soo much better than the original. Night and day difference in control, accuracy etc.
This is a pistol I will definitely have to try before I buy. The original LCP was extremely painful for my old arthritic hands after 3 shots and I ended up selling it. I’m hoping it is easier on my hands than the original.
I got mine a couple weeks ago and love it. I will be getting the 12-round extended magazine very soon. I can carry it anywhere.
I was waiting for a company to make one just like this one. I am saving to get mine.
I have to disagree that it shoots as well as a Glock 42. I have both. I put 200 rounds through my LCP MAX then compared them head to head. I have my own corse of fire that I put my concealed carry guns through. Five present and fire from 10yd, five shots LH from 10yd, five RH 10yd, five shots rapid from 10yd, five shots slow from 15yd. All shots are on a 12X16in steel plate. I've run both guns twice. Both times I got an 88 with the LCP Max with misses in different parts of the corse of fire. Both times I cleaned it easily with the Glock 42. The 42 is heavier, has a longer sight radius, and has a shorter trigger reset. Also the factory Glock night sights are a bit smaller and more precise then the LCP sights. This all adds up a gun that is objectively easier to shoot fast and accurately. Now the grip on the LCP Max feels way better then the Glock. Glock needs to get away from the polymer mags, and make a 42X. Same grip length with a 10rnd steel magazine and a slightly wider grip. Ruger needs to make and LCPEX with the same barrel length and sight radius as the Glock 42. And Smith&Wesson need to beat them both to the punch and make a smaller version of the Shield in 380, like a Glock 42, with a ten round magazine. The LCP Max and the Glock 42 are and aren't appels and oranges. For me I can carry a Glock 42 in my pocket just fine. And while I have less capacity, I'm more likely then not to not need even all of that. Also I'm more likely to make effective hits with the Glock. So I carry thay one. But I also train with and intend to get back into steel challenge shooting with my Glock 34. So that's a factor as well. I like the Max and will keep it. I'm intending to get my wife the Security 380. Once I get her where I want her with that gun I'll transition her to the Max. For her the smaller size is a major benefit. Both the Max and the Glock 42 have strength in different areas. But I consistently out shoot the Max with the 42.
I do hope other manufacturers "chase" the LCP Max. I live in a dense city and find .380 to be my preferred carry. Enough power but less risk of over penetration. I also love the pocket size. I've been carrying the LCP2 for about 5 years now...unfortunately (or fortunately). Looks like I need another ruger! I would love to see some competition in this micro (pocket) double stack 380 world soon! Thanks for the video
I'd like an LCP in .32 ACP.
Yes! 15 round flush fit mag! ;D
You and me both. I'd also like a full sized double stack 380 and 32 as well. I've always wanted what isn't attainable.
If Ruger makes an LCP Max in 32acp, I will surely buy it! Love 32acp. Maybe 12-15 round capacity.
Hard to find ammo but I will get a 32 if they make it we will come
I think the only companies making a 32acp that’s available in the USA is kel tec and beretta.
Best gun reviewer on TH-cam. Will not be picking this one up, but only because I prefer a S&W .38 snub nose for ultra concealed carry applications.
One thought - how about reviewing some aftermarket stocks for common rifle platforms? Remington 700, Ruger 10-22, Mossberg 500 and 590 series, Remington 870.
The LCP Max looks like the Bersa Thunder, Taurus Spectrum and the Smith and Wesson 380 EZ had a beautiful baby.
I use the pocket holster that came with my lcp222lr all the time..nice touch
Thank you for the review. Would you trust Ruger's trigger safety mechanism to carry with a good holster and one in the chamber? Thanks
Yes. I've carried the lcp2 for years. An edc that's not chambered could cost you dearly
@@BADD1ONE Thank you
The slide lock back doesn't work on the one I just bought. The only way I can get it to work its by holding up on the magazine with one of my fingers while pulling back on the slide. There is a fitment problem between the magazine catch and the magazine Notch causing the magazine to set too low in the action. I have not wasted precious and expensive ammo to find out how many failure to feeds a to low magazine is going to cause.
Olde English is my favorite gun shop there prices are usually good and when there was no ammo they found a way to get some and not over charge for it great store if I have a choice about it I buy from them staff is excellent as well if you live in Ohio in tipp city or surrounding areas go check them out awesome place
You sir do some of the best reviews I have the lcp2 thinking of picking this max up also
Great video and review! I would enjoy firing one and making have it for a backup to my Hellcat. 🙏🇺🇸
Love mine… 100%EDC 12rds in a Recluse pocket holster. You should check them out. Best pocket carry/safest holster out there.
What hollow points do you you recommend for this? I've heard that Hornady Critical Defense 90gr have the highest velocities for the .380 auto. Great review! Thanks👍
Just bought one. Going to pick it up this afternoon!
It's a good time to be alive for the selection in this category, and others.
They should make one of these that has like 18-20 rounds of .25 acp. Or make it hold 10 rounds of .25 but make it ultra tiny to complete with those NAA revolvers in .22.
I love my SCCY pistols, have a DVG and a CPX2. Both came with an optic mounted for 360.00 out the door. Stainless and the factory support is the best in the industry.
It jams a lot. It doesn’t chamber the round completely into the chamber
I cannot hold onto this thing to hit target with the standard mag. I have two 12 rounds on order to hopefully rectify the situation. I am dead on with my bersa thunder and 365 so I am thinking it is the grip.
Try a Hogue or Pachmyer slip grip. $10ish bucks.
The slight palm swell can do wonders.
Had to trim my Hogue around the magwell, but no problem with scissors or an xacto.
@@JohnnyBurnes thanks. I have used Hogue on other firearms with success, I just hate the install.
Great ankle gun. I've seen a couple of policeman save their lives due to an ankle gun. The perp got a hold of their primary.
Great vid. Not sure if I missed it, did you go over how difficult it is to rack the slide?
I have lcp 2 at 22lr. Thinking of getting lcp max while still keeping lcp 2. Not sure if Ruger will come up with lcp max with thumb safety.
Picked mine up for $320, very small and easy to conceal.
Love my 380
Picked it up last night and put 50 through it this morning. The trigger kept biting my finger. First time I've had that problem. This unit came with some surface rust on the slide mostly around the serrations still trying to remove that. Could not see it with the lighting at the store or I would not have picked it up. This gun rattles when you shake it. It is super light with little to no felt recoil. The gun did not want to take the last round in the mag at first and did not want to accept full mag when inserted at first as well. After it broke in a little bit it took all 10 rounds in mag and gun just fine. Had zero firing issues though. I saw a vid where the guy said the gun was shooting low and left-this unit seems that way too. I could get a nice group if I was aiming at around 2:00. Overall for being my first 380 and costing 380 I like it enough to keep it for the deep conceal ability because it is super tiny. Wondering how long it will last the barrel has very little weight to it. The ammo I used was Winchester 95 gr. Thanks Allen another great vid!
why would you ever point that gun at your left hand?
This will be replacing my G42 ASAP.
@Texican does your neighbors wife have alot of rounds fired using the 9 rounder? I'm only asking because my ETS 9 and 7 rounders both failed numerous times, no issues with the ETS 12 rounds.
I tried one & the Glock 42 just feels so much better for me, but I highly prefer the Glock grip angle.
The LCP Max is thicker, but still feels snapier.
The trigger is better than the other LCPs, but I'm still not a fan.
I changed a few trigger components on the Glock & I really like the trigger on it.
Not too light to be unsafe for carry, but not too heavy to have me pulling shots when rapid firing.
I don't carry .380 very often, but I do fire it on a regular basis, so I have put a lot of rounds through the Glock, so maybe I've just gotten used to it.
@Texican My G42 was a jammamatic. The LCP max has it beat in capacity as well.
Great review👍!
Nice review!
Alot of people like a safety, Ruger would sells many more with that option.
Awesome, now do the Axe from bul armory!!!
Great video
Jest got this can’t wait for range day and try it out
You missed the LCP custom. Still shoots sweeter than the LCP MAX
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks Allen.
Great review..great gun. 🤠
You forgot the sccy 380 but they did recently discontinue it
Just bought one. Now time to hunt down some 380 ammo lol
I see what looks like a manual thumb safety, but you didn't mention it. Is that in fact what that is? That's a deal killer for me, if it is.
It's the slide release, there's no manual safety on this pistol.
@@Billman66 That's good news.
@@therealhawkeyeii7888 Agreed. For a LEO, the firearm is a threat management tool and a manual safety has saved the lives of officers that routinely carry their firearms exposed and are often subject to disarm attempts. For the armed citizen, whose weapon is meant to enable you to force a break in contact and whose weapon should be carried concealed, the balance of needs favors a "point and shoot" firearm with a manageable trigger.
@@therealhawkeyeii7888 you don’t know what a slide release looks like on a gun?
That hurts me physically
Picked mine up today at my local gun shop for $367
I did need to replace the takedown pin in my LCPII with MCARBO aftermarket after I observed the factory pin backing out on me....any word if the Max has this issue or if Ruger addressed it with the update?
I'd love to get one, but I had the LCP II in .380, and the extractor
broke. Ruger sent a new slide and barrel, then the extractor fell out of
the new slide. Right now, I'm not to confident in any LCP. Anyone else
know anything about these issues, or why the LCP Max is better? Thanks!
Good video. I like it.
What kind of wrist watch is that? Does it withstand the recoil shock?
Self winding
Just bought it and shipped back to Ruger. It had a 8.2 lb trigger pull :(
I only have 100 rounds thru my LCP Max it’s better than my old LCP 2 but still has a snap when firing.
I fired one my friend got & I really don't think it shoots as good as the Glock 42.
The Glock just seems like it's significantly less snappy, even though it's thinner.
@@pewpewTN glock has a longer barrel which reduces recoil, but also makes it harder to conceal. glock also holds 4 less rounds
I have a 42 and look forward to getting a max. 42 I'm sure will be more pleasant to shoot but 10+ 1 in pocket carry will be awesome?
@@KD-wy2cc I don't really care about the capacity much for pocket carry.
I'm not daily carrying .380, so just having my normal 42 with +2 baseplates is 8+1 & more than enough for me.
I normally either carry a Glock 23 MOS Gen 5 or a Glock 48 MOS Gen 5.
So the 42 is what I go with if I'm just making a quick trip & still have my gym shorts on or something like that.
For those scenarios, I will gladly trade a couple rounds of capacity for something I can shoot much better.
@@pewpewTN Its enough until its not, good luck out there, you'll need it
Exceptional!!!
I love the DAO LCP, but passed on the LCP II. I just can't see carrying a cocked-and-UNLOCKED pistol!
Pity they couldn't redesign to make it +P rated. Without getting to 900+FPS expansion isn't likely. Still a good option with Buffalo Bore 100 grain flat hardcast. I'll wait a year till the aftermarket catches up and the prices go down.
There is no SAAMI standard for 380 +P, so you likely won't see any major manufacturers release a 380 that explicitly states it is +P rated as there is no real definition for what that means (unlike 9mm, 38 special & 45 Auto).
@@natebrown4330 Wasn't aware, however Buffalo Bore and Underwood (my preferred choice of self defense ammo) both offer +P options for 380 and the LCP instruction info that comes with the pistol specifically states not for use with +P ammo.
@Texican You may want to tell Buffalo Bore that. www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=127
@Texican Thanks for that, very little online information on 380 testing. The Max is an interesting option and after the initial Beta testing sorts out issues and the price drops I may pick one up. Think the BB 100grain flat nosed hardcast looks like a good choice, but with all carry ammo you have to run a few boxes to ensure each individual firearm functions and hits POA.
@Texican 👍
I just bought one, out of 110 rounds of cc’i blazer brass,and s&b fmj I had 12 failure to go into battery, 3 failures to feed, then the trigger return spring failed.
Send it to Ruger.
Got one from Cabelas for $379 + tax. Now, if ammo wasn't unobtainium...
A fully cocked, single action with no external safety. Not too sure about that, especially in a pocket holster.
very cool but this ones not for me the ammo is less powerful and more expensive then 9mm and the gun only holds 10 maybe they will make bigger mags then id say yes
Get the right ammo and it meets the FBIs standard at just over 12" in ballistic gel. I carried the lcp .380 for years and you don't even know you have it on you. It's that light and small. I just upgraded to a sig p365, but when ever I gotta run up to the corner store I grab my lcp and throw it in my pocket.
@@ryanboling1 i prefer the full sized g3 for an all purpose gun myself if i need a more low key gun i have a savage 1917 that runs like the day it was made the ammo even in 32 acp ball does well in 4 inch barrel
@@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 380 ball ammo would do better than 32acp ball ammo, so 13rds of 380 in the lcp max shouldn't make you hesitant to carry it.
@@copper178 i already have the 32 i dont have the 380 is kinda the point i was getting at
You can buy a 12+1 magazine for it
How big is that glock double stack subcompact .380 that we still can’t get here in the United States?
exactly the same size as glock 26
@@copper178 thanks for the response.
@Texican yeah you would think that glock would jump at an opportunity to make more money.
Kel Tec P11 predated the p365 by more than a decade.
Sig did not start this, The Sig Fanboys did, when they gave Sig credit for creating something they didn't create.
He said Sig created the trend. Definitely true.
@@deathbymazda I the same way that if Sig put their logo on a dog turd, all the fanbois would buy it and all the other manufacturers would see the opportunity to make money and start squeezing their dogs as well.
Except for glock, who will wait 10 years and release the same God damn gun.
Pull up the spec sheet for the p365 and the P11 and you'll see they are suspiciously similar.
I'm just saying, that's not exactly innovative, and their brand alone is powerful enough to start any trend among competitors.
@@deejayimm I think I’d compare it to HK and Glock with the polymer pistol trend. Sure, HK made the first polymer pistol, but it was so hideously unattractive that the trend never kicked off until Glock made the second, better looking polymer pistol. KelTecs are just fugly, and half their guns aren’t even reliable. So you can’t really blame Sig for KelTecs incompetence. The 365 is just a more attractive gun.
@@deathbymazda I think the vp70 was a victim of timing as well, even in the 80s alot of people were apprehensive about polymers in the Firearms industry. Yea it was ugly, but it was also expensive and right around the same time that people were calling the M16 the Mattel, and the only polymer on it was in the stock and the fore-end. I'll bet people back then were absolutely horrified at the concept of a plastic receiver. Also, I don't think keltec is incompetent, they are just different and I think they like that, I like that about them. They do their own thing and the world needs more companies that don't JUST care about what is profitable. That being said I did not think the P11 was a particularly good pistol, add that to the stigma of the keltec brand, and it's not exactly trendsetting.
You’re right, but Kel-Tec doesn’t move the volume or produce the quality control necessary to make a splash in the industry by themselves. So, Sig (and many others) have taken the concept and run with it. Very successfully, I might add. Just like the majority of inventions, the one who comes up with the idea usually doesn’t have the resources to make it happen. Sig did.
Thought it would be awesome. Was not. The trigger bit me repeatedly , very maddening. Too much space below the trigger. I could keep it from biting , but I had to use a grip that I did not like / much different from what I run on all my other semis. I also thought the trigger break was way too deep ( too far back / close to the grip) - I hate that. But that seems to be a trait of all the LCP line. Test it carefully before you buy. I still have an original LCP with the improved anodized trigger (and yep, even have a Kel-tec - the original original LCP). To me, the LCP original is just as nice to shoot. I also have to disagree with the presenter when he says this new gun is as easy to shoot as a G42. although I no longer have my G42, that gun was significantly larger than this lcp max. Longer barrel. A bit heavier. No way this new Ruger is as easy to shoot as the g42. So while I agree all the LCP guns are pretty decent in recoil overall, the G42 has them beat in that area, likely by virtue of size , barrel, and maybe a bit lower bore axis. For lowest recoil the big browning / beretta is the 380 of choice. I’d suggest avoiding the PPK though, as it seemed a bit snappy and also bit - but with the frame / slide instead of the trigger. also, I had a Sig 9mm kurz some years back, P series, it was also surprisingly snappy - maybe the blow back vs recoil does that? For the micro 380s, my vote stays with the original LCP and a strong second to the Kahr 380 (if they could make the trigger break before it touched the grip, it might make #1). Love the high cap idea, but they need to clean up the ergos. When they moved away from the KELTEC design in the LCP to the LCP II design, just does not seem like an improvement to me.
def takes practice!
@E Mak thank you for providing all this information. I carry a glock 42 almost every day and I love shooting it, especially after I added the Hogue grip. It's super easy to shoot and I carry the ETS nine round magazine to up the round count. I am interested in this LCP max, but probably will not buy one just because of what you said about the trigger. No way do I want my trigger finger being pinched again and again because of the trigger and trigger guard design. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Was $379.99 at BassPro, and it's much better than my LCP2 380. With 13rds of decent xtp style 380 bullets, I'm not concerned about it not being enough to get me out of trouble.
Most murder victims never knew if it was a 380, 9mm, 40, or 45 that killed them. Location is all that matters. Look at Chicago. There are probably 10-20 gunshot victims who survive for every 1 murder case they get. That's the reality of how generally ineffective handguns are when it comes to killing people. Most don't get hit in the vitals, which is why so many survive with the modern emergency trauma care people receive today.
Got mine for $339 with a cash discount.
Great idea and execution. I've yet to see HP ammo for a 2" barreled .380 that does any expansion. A 3-1/2" barrel, yep, a 3", maybe, 2" barrel just takes too much velocity off the bullet to get to expansion threshold velocities. If there is a brand that does it, let everyone know, it would be a rare thing. I have not done much testing with the .380, but the ammo used was supposed to work at lower velocities. It failed at close range (5') into a milk jug full of water. That's not even an effective medium for real life situations, I just wanted to see if it would expand at all, nope. Tried several, no good. Anyone have one they know works from a 2", please post.
Precision One XTP, passed the FBI standard requirement out of a 2.75” barrel
You sound dumb.
shot placement and being legally justified is far more important than bullet expansion
You forgot to mention it comes with a speed loader.
Yeah, But who doesn’t own an Uplula? 😂
@@jagpilotohio I'm a new gun owner, I don't ☹️
@@charliebrown2103 well now you have something else on your gun supply list to pick up one day. They are more useful for bigger more stubborn magazines but they are very nice to save both time and fingers doing lots of loading. Most gun shops have them. They work for .380, 9mm, .45, .40, 10 mm.
The biggest problem is that holster. They need to ship with a proper pocket holster, something that sticks.
Now if only Ruger would do something with that finish. These things rust and wear like crazy
I pocket carry my lcp II 6+ days a week for over a year - you are 100% correct
@@jmf1976jmf same!
Just today I noticed Ruger now has a titanium finished slide. Listed at Bud’s for just a few more dollars than the standard version.
$50 for a mag is way too much
Will it handle plus P ammo?
There's no SAAMI specification for .380 ACP+P.
No. Owners Manual says no.
This guy looks like a former Marine.