I put my first 200 rounds (150 Federal FMJ and 50 Hornady Critical Defense) through my LCP Max recently, and here are my results (all at 7 yards): -Swapped sights with S&W Bodyguard 3-dot Tritium sites. They work quite well for my eyes. -I started feeling that soreness in my palm you described after about 150 rounds. Definitely easier to shoot longer than my LCP2. At that point I stopped and installed a Hogue grip-sleeve. That helped with the rest. -I had one failure to feed. It ejected the previous round but didn’t feed the next round (slide was forward but empty chamber). -I had one failure to lock the slide back (used 3 10-rd mags and two 12-rd mags). They don’t seem as reliable locking back when done by hand. -All failures were with the Federal FMJ. The Critical Defense ammo cycled flawlessly, though, I still want to put more through it. -Careful aim, good grip, and good trigger control is dead-on accurate, but anything less is not forgiving.
I have watched about 15 reviews on the Max 380 and yours is indeed the best. Thanks for your organized approach and your opinion is very much appreciated ! Great job !
I have about 200 rounds through mine and really like it. Have had no slide hold back issues. I, too, am finding myself picking it up over my Sig P365. Really like the Sig and think is more comfortable to shoot - but the weight difference is very noticeable. Nice review.
I’m really enjoying mine. I get slide lock 100% of the time after firing the last round but rarely when manually locking the slide back on an empty mag. Thanks for the video.
Fantastic review! Stumbled across your channel during one of my 2am TH-cam binges lol. I just wanted to add that I too had the last round lock back issue. Contacted Ruger and they sent me a new mag, haven't had any issues since. You're dead on, great work!
I purchased one of these a few weeks back, put 250 rounds through it with no issues. Only weird thing was when using the 10 round mag it did not lock back after the last round but it only happened once and it was literally first 10 shots I took with the gun. Great video! Love the firearm!
I've carried and HR218 qualed my P365 for years and love it, but with the LOD injury I have, the lighter I carry the better. The Max fits the bill perfectly and the feel is not that much different than the P365. Now the Max goes everywhere with a 12 rd mag in it and 2 - 12 rd spares just like when I carried the P365. It's a ton lighter also. I pushed a S&W Bodyguard 380 Truglo night sight onto the rear and it's perfect. Putting a Talon rubber grip made a better feel. I've put 300 rounds of every flavor of ammo through it and it eats it all no problems. The most accurate I've fired in it was the Remington Golden Saber 102 gr but it's also the worst for recoil. Mine loves the Winchester PDX so that's my carry ammo. The P365 and LCP Max are both great pistols. You made a great video. BIG THUMBS UP TO YOU.
Great review. I've got a little over 500 rounds through mine now. I've also had the slide lock back issue but I've also concluded that the magazine feeds reliably anyway. Eventually we'll see a fix for that; slightly stretching the magazine spring helps for awhile. From a practical view point the LCP Max is my best carry option and I can live with the lock back issue. My accuracy has really improved with this model (as has the trigger) and I've had zero reliability issues beyond an occasional last round lock back. I don't own a P365 but for me the LCP Max replaces a problematic P938.
Good review! The LCP Max weighs just 15oz fully loaded with 13 Rounds and has Factory night sights. It's a total game changer. I've posted a whole LCP Max shooting playlist and I just uploaded my 6 month 800 round review for anyone interested.
Very good....i too use nail clippers to pop out the pin on all guns that have removable pin type takedown. Nail clippers are just something I always have on me, and they work great 👍 the chrome finish on them doesn't scratch up the slide!
I have seen them mostly around $379 but I paid $349 for mine at Academy in Texas. It feels perfect in my hand and the recoil seems quite a bit less snappy. My favorite carry pistol of all time!
When I first got the 12 round mag in the mail, I tested it empty and it didn’t lock back the slide…loaded the mag and went out and shot it…locked back every time.
@@bench175 I honestly think the shock of the blowback/recoil is higher with a fired round than the hand can do with just racking…which is enough to make the slide stop catch the mag. I had no issues with the 10 rounder by hand or by fire though. Honestly it doesn’t bother me too much…with 11 rounds in the flush mag alone I’m not too worried about the slide not locking back…if I have to fire that many rounds things have gone very badly
@@jasonusaf6326 True. I'd rather it not lock open, than randomly lock open like a Bersa Thunder I had. The slide release spring was so weak, the recoil would randomly lock the slide open
The Max is now my go-to summer carry gun! I ran about 100 rounds through without a malfunction. I bought a backup 12 round magazine and have 2 more of the same on order! This gun replaced a Kel-Tec P3AT and a S&W 380 Backup.
I have a Remington RM380 for the few days in the summer that I just can't conceal my P365XL (might be taking my shirt off on a hot day). The gun works perfectly and feels fine, but only has 6 round mags. The MAX having 10 and 12 round mags instills more confidence. I've recently seen a couple videos that are disturbing if you only have 7 or 13 rounds (not enough). I watched a cop empty a 20 round mag, plus 1 in the chamber, at or into a guy at close range, and after the guy went down (only after the mag was empty) he got back up and RAN at the cops again. It took 4 more direct hits to take him down again, and he STILL wasn't dead. These guys hyped up on drugs are unstoppable with only 7 or 13 rounds. The Max is actually .100" shorter than my RM380 and only .260" taller. It should fit in my pocket just as well as my RM380. I need to shoot one to see how it feels. This is a very complete video about what you found with this gun. Thanks for making it.
Just retired my old reliable gen 1 LCP for my new max. Cycles and slide locks well so far, but could care less if it doesnt lock back, as long as it cycles. Definately, fills the back pocket more tho..
It’s such and easy pistol to carry. Mine shoots great, love it better than the Security 380 which is a great shooter. For ease of carry this is fantastic.
Excellent video sir I liked and subscribed I'm a huge Ruger fan they definitely hit it out the park with the lcp max I'll be picking one up in the future
The Ruger LCP2 is a very problamatic handgun. Has feed and ejector problems. My new LCP2 blew out the extractor, after only 60 rouds of brass ammo. I searched the internet and many other LCP2 owners, have had this problem. I called Ruger this morning 10/12/2021 about the issue. They said, that the LCP2 is problamatic in this area, because unlike the Max, the ejector is not pinned to the slide, it's just pressed in. They are aware of the issues with the LCP2 and they are sending me a new slide and barrel through the mail. My question is, if they know about this issue, why aren't they recalling this firearm. I will not EDC this firearm with this known defect.
My LCP 2 did the same thing. It's embarrassing when the range officer is helping you look for your extractor in a pile of brass on the concrete floor. Ruger customer service was great though as they replaced the entire slide with a new unit. I'm upgrading to a Max very soon.
@@24roughing76 I called Ruger this morning 10/12/2021 about the issue. They said, that the LCP2 is problamatic in this area, because unlike the Max, the ejector is not pinned to the slide, it's just pressed in. They are aware of the issues with the LCP2 and they are sending me a new slide and barrel through the mail. My question is, if they know about this issue, why aren't they recalling this firearm. I will not EDC this firearm with this known defect.
@@catman581 I agree. They did not question anything at all with mine. They just made the replacement. Great customer service, but I figured this was a common issue after that. I'm sure it's cheaper for them to do it this way than to recall it obviously. However who knows how many units need to actually be affected to consider a recall... Never the less, I will feel much better with the Max once I get my hands on one than with the 2.
So in the manual ruger says it's normal to not lcok back on a manual slide pull. But regarding firing it, you can try to stretch the spring out a bit, but honestly the best bet is to do a maguts conversion of the mag internals. Maguts is a company if you aren't familiar. Replaces the spring and follower. Much much more stout. Thank you for the video
Funny I have a customized P365XL I bought the MAX several weeks ago and it has been my go too gun of choice. I have Pilgram Ammunition in mine 1500 fps 50 grain
Great Review. I am having the same issue with the mag followers. I actually had the follower on a 12 round mag pop out the top while in the mag well... pretty bad... the gun is great but mags need improvement. Have you reached out to Ruger?
Make sure the lever that locks the slide to the rear is clean and lubricated. A stronger spring in the magazine may just be over compensating for lack of lubrication. Mine has never failed to lock with both 10 and 12 round mags after 250 rounds. I did replace the trigger up front which required disassembly which gave me access to the lever on the left side.
Finally took my Max to the range and the gun was pretty accurate at 5 and 7 yards. I do not like the trigger, had a sore finger after 25 rounds. I will have to use shooting gloves for this gun.
I have the LCP Max and a CZ 75 PCR and while the CZ is pleasant to shoot, the Max is my EDC. I use the 12 rd mags and it is still concealable in shorts, jeans, or sweat pants. The 12 rd gives me a 3-finger grip. I replaced the factory trigger with a Sigurd and it eliminated the trigger pinch.
Very good review. But because the Max has some issues I don’t like, I don’t carry mine now as I went back to my old Glock 42. First reason is reliability. I had a couple of FTF issues. Maybe becasue it was new, but my Glock never had any. Next is poor accuracy with the Max. The Max is significantly less accurate at 25 yds compared to the Glock 42. Fail. Next, I have the same issue where the slide doesn’t lock back on the last round with the Max. Fail. Tool disassembly with the max is a fail. The Max definitely is NOT a range shooter. It’s not as comfortable as shooting my Glock 42. The 42 absorbs felt recoil so much better and double taps are more accurate than the Max. The size of the Max is smaller than my Glock 42… and that’s exactly why I prefer the 42! The 42 holds and feels so much better in the hands when firing. Finally, the trigger. Like my LCP-2, the Max trigger is nothing to write home about. It’s too long and mushy for me. The Pro is that the Max holds more rounds than the Glock. But… was that even necessary for a micro .380??? I say, NOPE! 6+1 plus two spare mags in my pants pocket for the Glock is just fine for me. Again, the 10 or 12 round .380 Max mag isn’t necessary. If I’m going to carry higher capacity, then I’m going to be carrying a 9mm! Finally is cost and availability of magazines. Ruger magazines cost nearly 35% more than Glock mags, but Glock mags are found everywhere. I don’t know why I bought the max. It feels like a clanky toy that rattles in my hand. It’s back in the safe. I’ll probably sell it.
Not trying to tell you how to live but you should at least put 500 rds through any weapon with which you are planning to defend your life. I have the LCP Max as well and I got the biggest issues between rd 200 and 300, issues severe enough that I sent it back to Ruger after only 300 rds. I had them replace the barrel and the entire slide assembly, after which it made it through it's 500 rd test.
@@bench175 The biggest issue was a dead trigger, which occurred around round 300 and is why I sent it in. There were a lot of other smaller issues that were just annoying, like the gun failing to go completely into battery, slide not locking back on an empty mag and an inability to unload a round out of the chamber with the mag detached. You had to take the gun apart to get the round out (may be a common thing in very small guns). Along with these issues were several, several failures to feed. It could be that I just got a lemon. However after sending it into Ruger and having them replace the slide assembly there are no longer any issues after 500 rds.
My friend and I bought this gun but both of ours shoot about 4-6 inches low. Sending back to ruger. The rep said they are having some issues with this. Quality control seems poor. Wouldn’t necessarily buy this u til this issue is resolved. It seems like a great gun but can’t rely on it shooting that low
@@bench175 it’s funny because I picked up all the same ammo the last time I was there too when I bought my LCP max. I wish they would get more steel cased .380 monarch bulk boxes, but it also isn’t the best ammo to feed this my LCP max with.
Do you recommend this as a new gun for a first time gun owner? Was comparing this to the Glock 19 and M&P Shield EZ. The size seems to be great for carry.
The Max 380 is definitely a better size for carry if you can only have one gun, and it would be fine for a new owner who is aware that a smaller gun will have more recoil. It might be better to first get a larger, easier gun to shoot that will promote practice and learning fundamentals, and then go for a small carry gun.
If you force your brain to learn to shoot with your pinky hanging off you will shoot every gun better. There's no reason to use pinky extension, it only makes it harder to hide.
Just out of curiosity... in my .380EZ, I really like Underwood 68gr normal or +P Xtreme Defender and Underwood 100gr HCFN, normal - the +P verges on uncomfortable for my arthritis but is absolutely tolerable for 3-4 magazines. Anyway, the EZ is not very concealable on my 5'6", 150 lb frame so I' m thinking about keeping it for the bedstand and getting this Ruger for carry. I wondered what your thoughts were on that??
If you'll carry in a holster, and you're okay with no manual safety, it's hard to beat. I don't run hot ammo however because its so lightweight. I tried some Norma 85gr?1280fps and it kinda stung my trigger finger.
@@bench175 i think I'd get the "Sticky" pocket holster. My chosen ammo would be whatever shoots best in this platform that doesn't overwhelm it. I'd like to try Udwd 68gr XtDef non +P and Udwd 100gr HCFN non +P (975 fps, 211 fpe) also 85 gr Barnes. Fed HST
@@atleastimtrying5391 I can rack the slide on my buddy's LCP MAX, but it's still more snappy than I like. Guess I'll just try harder to make the EZ disappear.
What type of ammo do you carry? I also carry a 365x and today I backed out of buying 124 gr +p ammo because I’m not sure if I should stick to regular 124 gr ammo.
I agree. Outside of LEO, ASP has like one video of a civilian reloading and that was after the threat was down anyways. Doesn't happen real world. Someone will say yeah but.... but but but just carry a shotgun everywhere then.
Bizarre statement They can sell stuff cheaper because they don’t include the extra magazine That you can then get on your own It definitely makes sense to include the 12 round magazine with this gun but it’s definitely not a dealbreaker that prevents me from getting the best pocket carry pistol there is
For dissembling the slide assembly of the LCP Max you can use the magazine to pop the pin out. No need for extra tool.
Pearce Grips makes a magazine extension that is a bit longer. You can probably get all your fingers on it. That increases control.
Use a brass case to pull the disassembly pin. That’s your tool.
I put my first 200 rounds (150 Federal FMJ and 50 Hornady Critical Defense) through my LCP Max recently, and here are my results (all at 7 yards):
-Swapped sights with S&W Bodyguard 3-dot Tritium sites. They work quite well for my eyes.
-I started feeling that soreness in my palm you described after about 150 rounds. Definitely easier to shoot longer than my LCP2. At that point I stopped and installed a Hogue grip-sleeve. That helped with the rest.
-I had one failure to feed. It ejected the previous round but didn’t feed the next round (slide was forward but empty chamber).
-I had one failure to lock the slide back (used 3 10-rd mags and two 12-rd mags). They don’t seem as reliable locking back when done by hand.
-All failures were with the Federal FMJ. The Critical Defense ammo cycled flawlessly, though, I still want to put more through it.
-Careful aim, good grip, and good trigger control is dead-on accurate, but anything less is not forgiving.
Thanks for the info.
I have watched about 15 reviews on the Max 380 and yours is indeed the best. Thanks for your organized approach and your opinion is very much appreciated ! Great job !
Happy to help
I have about 200 rounds through mine and really like it. Have had no slide hold back issues. I, too, am finding myself picking it up over my Sig P365. Really like the Sig and think is more comfortable to shoot - but the weight difference is very noticeable. Nice review.
Good to hear. Thanks
I’m really enjoying mine. I get slide lock 100% of the time after firing the last round but rarely when manually locking the slide back on an empty mag. Thanks for the video.
Very interesting!
Fantastic review! Stumbled across your channel during one of my 2am TH-cam binges lol. I just wanted to add that I too had the last round lock back issue. Contacted Ruger and they sent me a new mag, haven't had any issues since. You're dead on, great work!
Thanks man. I've gotta do that
I purchased one of these a few weeks back, put 250 rounds through it with no issues. Only weird thing was when using the 10 round mag it did not lock back after the last round but it only happened once and it was literally first 10 shots I took with the gun. Great video! Love the firearm!
Thats good to hear. Thanks
I have been carrying mine over my LCP2.
I love it! Now I only pocket carry.
Yes, this is the most I have ever pocket carried haha
@@bench175
Most of the time I don't even know it is there.
I've carried and HR218 qualed my P365 for years and love it, but with the LOD injury I have, the lighter I carry the better. The Max fits the bill perfectly and the feel is not that much different than the P365. Now the Max goes everywhere with a 12 rd mag in it and 2 - 12 rd spares just like when I carried the P365. It's a ton lighter also. I pushed a S&W Bodyguard 380 Truglo night sight onto the rear and it's perfect. Putting a Talon rubber grip made a better feel. I've put 300 rounds of every flavor of ammo through it and it eats it all no problems. The most accurate I've fired in it was the Remington Golden Saber 102 gr but it's also the worst for recoil. Mine loves the Winchester PDX so that's my carry ammo. The P365 and LCP Max are both great pistols. You made a great video. BIG THUMBS UP TO YOU.
Thanks man. And thank you for your service.
Great review. I've got a little over 500 rounds through mine now. I've also had the slide lock back issue but I've also concluded that the magazine feeds reliably anyway. Eventually we'll see a fix for that; slightly stretching the magazine spring helps for awhile. From a practical view point the LCP Max is my best carry option and I can live with the lock back issue. My accuracy has really improved with this model (as has the trigger) and I've had zero reliability issues beyond an occasional last round lock back. I don't own a P365 but for me the LCP Max replaces a problematic P938.
Wow nice round count 👏 Yes, the lock back is not such a big deal to me having 10+1 rounds and training for it
Good review! The LCP Max weighs just 15oz fully loaded with 13 Rounds and has Factory night sights. It's a total game changer. I've posted a whole LCP Max shooting playlist and I just uploaded my 6 month 800 round review for anyone interested.
Very good....i too use nail clippers to pop out the pin on all guns that have removable pin type takedown. Nail clippers are just something I always have on me, and they work great 👍 the chrome finish on them doesn't scratch up the slide!
lol what a coincidence. Thanks Man
Well done review 👍 I have the LCP and carry it often especially in summer. Am considering this gun when there's more inventory 👍😉
Thanks
I have seen them mostly around $379 but I paid $349 for mine at Academy in Texas. It feels perfect in my hand and the recoil seems quite a bit less snappy. My favorite carry pistol of all time!
I love this gun. Finding myself carry it over the P365 xl most days.
Yup so easy to carry
When I first got the 12 round mag in the mail, I tested it empty and it didn’t lock back the slide…loaded the mag and went out and shot it…locked back every time.
Its hit and miss
@@bench175 I honestly think the shock of the blowback/recoil is higher with a fired round than the hand can do with just racking…which is enough to make the slide stop catch the mag. I had no issues with the 10 rounder by hand or by fire though.
Honestly it doesn’t bother me too much…with 11 rounds in the flush mag alone I’m not too worried about the slide not locking back…if I have to fire that many rounds things have gone very badly
@@jasonusaf6326 True. I'd rather it not lock open, than randomly lock open like a Bersa Thunder I had. The slide release spring was so weak, the recoil would randomly lock the slide open
have you reached out to ruger about magazine issues, heard they have great customer service
Best review I ever read simple ;honest no bs
Thanks man
The Max is now my go-to summer carry gun! I ran about 100 rounds through without a malfunction. I bought a backup 12 round magazine and have 2 more of the same on order! This gun replaced a Kel-Tec P3AT and a S&W 380 Backup.
Definitely my main carry this summer.
I have a Remington RM380 for the few days in the summer that I just can't conceal my P365XL (might be taking my shirt off on a hot day). The gun works perfectly and feels fine, but only has 6 round mags. The MAX having 10 and 12 round mags instills more confidence. I've recently seen a couple videos that are disturbing if you only have 7 or 13 rounds (not enough). I watched a cop empty a 20 round mag, plus 1 in the chamber, at or into a guy at close range, and after the guy went down (only after the mag was empty) he got back up and RAN at the cops again. It took 4 more direct hits to take him down again, and he STILL wasn't dead. These guys hyped up on drugs are unstoppable with only 7 or 13 rounds. The Max is actually .100" shorter than my RM380 and only .260" taller. It should fit in my pocket just as well as my RM380. I need to shoot one to see how it feels. This is a very complete video about what you found with this gun. Thanks for making it.
Please Answer ?
Which pistol has more felt recoil the Ruger LCP Max 380 or the Sig P365 9mm ?
Thanks
Just retired my old reliable gen 1 LCP for my new max.
Cycles and slide locks well so far, but could care less if it doesnt lock back, as long as it cycles.
Definately, fills the back pocket more tho..
Nice upgrade. This is definitely my favorite pocket pistol.
Agreed and likewise.
The pistol looks unique
It's pretty special
I really appreciate the review. Thank you.
Thanks
It’s such and easy pistol to carry. Mine shoots great, love it better than the Security 380 which is a great shooter. For ease of carry this is fantastic.
Excellent video sir
I liked and subscribed
I'm a huge Ruger fan they definitely hit it out the park with the lcp max I'll be picking one up in the future
Thanks man
This is something that I'm thinking of getting. I couldn't stand the recoil of the LCP2 but this looks promising.
Definitely give it a try
@@bench175 I picked it up last week and instantly loved it. Shoots like a dream.
Which is was a true double action like the Bodyguard 380 is.
The best defense ammo for pocket pistols is Underwood Xtreme Defender.
Thanks
I have have 33 rds. 30fmj 90g & 3 hp. I'm working on my sight picture. Pulling low and left. But really like everything about this Pocket gun.
Indeed
The Ruger LCP2 is a very problamatic handgun. Has feed and ejector problems. My new LCP2 blew out the extractor, after only 60 rouds of brass ammo. I searched the internet and many other LCP2 owners, have had this problem. I called Ruger this morning 10/12/2021 about the issue. They said, that the LCP2 is problamatic in this area, because unlike the Max, the ejector is not pinned to the slide, it's just pressed in. They are aware of the issues with the LCP2 and they are sending me a new slide and barrel through the mail. My question is, if they know about this issue, why aren't they recalling this firearm. I will not EDC this firearm with this known defect.
Thanks
My LCP 2 did the same thing. It's embarrassing when the range officer is helping you look for your extractor in a pile of brass on the concrete floor. Ruger customer service was great though as they replaced the entire slide with a new unit.
I'm upgrading to a Max very soon.
@@24roughing76 I called Ruger this morning 10/12/2021 about the issue. They said, that the LCP2 is problamatic in this area, because unlike the Max, the ejector is not pinned to the slide, it's just pressed in. They are aware of the issues with the LCP2 and they are sending me a new slide and barrel through the mail. My question is, if they know about this issue, why aren't they recalling this firearm. I will not EDC this firearm with this known defect.
@@catman581 I agree. They did not question anything at all with mine. They just made the replacement. Great customer service, but I figured this was a common issue after that.
I'm sure it's cheaper for them to do it this way than to recall it obviously. However who knows how many units need to actually be affected to consider a recall...
Never the less, I will feel much better with the Max once I get my hands on one than with the 2.
So in the manual ruger says it's normal to not lcok back on a manual slide pull.
But regarding firing it, you can try to stretch the spring out a bit, but honestly the best bet is to do a maguts conversion of the mag internals.
Maguts is a company if you aren't familiar.
Replaces the spring and follower. Much much more stout.
Thank you for the video
Thanks for the info
I'm carrying the LCP MaX in my LCP II holster. Just tightened the screw that controls the thickness of the holster.
Sweet. Thanks
Currently it's $26.99-$28.99 for a box of 50rds of brass ball 380acp. It's ridiculous.
Bidenomics
Funny I have a customized P365XL I bought the MAX several weeks ago and it has been my go too gun of choice. I have Pilgram Ammunition in mine 1500 fps 50 grain
Wow, never heard of that ammo. thanks
Great Review. I am having the same issue with the mag followers. I actually had the follower on a 12 round mag pop out the top while in the mag well... pretty bad... the gun is great but mags need improvement. Have you reached out to Ruger?
Damn wth. Not yet
Excellent review. Great observation of pros and cons. Gun maker should be paying attention to possible improvements. Thanks!
Thanks!
Great video! Thank you
Thx
Make sure the lever that locks the slide to the rear is clean and lubricated. A stronger spring in the magazine may just be over compensating for lack of lubrication. Mine has never failed to lock with both 10 and 12 round mags after 250 rounds. I did replace the trigger up front which required disassembly which gave me access to the lever on the left side.
I'll try that, but as you saw in the vid, the 12 mag follower just bypasses the slide release, so lubrication wouldn't help with that.
@@bench175 Yes, it would have to hit it, thanks for the video.
looking for a little more size comparison between lcp max 380 and the p365
Which aspect?
Last year a Rep from SIG showed a P365 in .380 that supposed to be introduced but never heard anything else about it
Interesting.
Sig just released a video on it today
Finally took my Max to the range and the gun was pretty accurate at 5 and 7 yards. I do not like the trigger, had a sore finger after 25 rounds. I will have to use shooting gloves for this gun.
Did you use defense or plus power ammo? Defensive Norma did sting my finger a bit
@@bench175 I used Normandy critical defense and Federal American Eagle 70 grain
I have the LCP Max and a CZ 75 PCR and while the CZ is pleasant to shoot, the Max is my EDC. I use the 12 rd mags and it is still concealable in shorts, jeans, or sweat pants. The 12 rd gives me a 3-finger grip. I replaced the factory trigger with a Sigurd and it eliminated the trigger pinch.
@@EducatedBlackMan Thanks for the tip
I love this sort of thing I think guns are really cool
Thanks. Me too haha
Very good review. But because the Max has some issues I don’t like, I don’t carry mine now as I went back to my old Glock 42. First reason is reliability. I had a couple of FTF issues. Maybe becasue it was new, but my Glock never had any. Next is poor accuracy with the Max. The Max is significantly less accurate at 25 yds compared to the Glock 42. Fail. Next, I have the same issue where the slide doesn’t lock back on the last round with the Max. Fail. Tool disassembly with the max is a fail. The Max definitely is NOT a range shooter. It’s not as comfortable as shooting my Glock 42. The 42 absorbs felt recoil so much better and double taps are more accurate than the Max. The size of the Max is smaller than my Glock 42… and that’s exactly why I prefer the 42! The 42 holds and feels so much better in the hands when firing. Finally, the trigger. Like my LCP-2, the Max trigger is nothing to write home about. It’s too long and mushy for me. The Pro is that the Max holds more rounds than the Glock. But… was that even necessary for a micro .380??? I say, NOPE! 6+1 plus two spare mags in my pants pocket for the Glock is just fine for me. Again, the 10 or 12 round .380 Max mag isn’t necessary. If I’m going to carry higher capacity, then I’m going to be carrying a 9mm! Finally is cost and availability of magazines. Ruger magazines cost nearly 35% more than Glock mags, but Glock mags are found everywhere. I don’t know why I bought the max. It feels like a clanky toy that rattles in my hand. It’s back in the safe. I’ll probably sell it.
Thanks for the info. Send me a PM if you don't want it to sit
I wish shield arms made a similar mag for the glock 42 as they do for the glock 43, a metal double stack
I too will buy!
Finger tip is where I feel a rub but, I shot it around 200 in one sitting
Nice.
I carry it on n my pocket with the Vedder pocket holster. Too often the Ruger one the holster would come out too
Thanks for the info
Not trying to tell you how to live but you should at least put 500 rds through any weapon with which you are planning to defend your life. I have the LCP Max as well and I got the biggest issues between rd 200 and 300, issues severe enough that I sent it back to Ruger after only 300 rds. I had them replace the barrel and the entire slide assembly, after which it made it through it's 500 rd test.
Thanks. What were the issues?
@@bench175 The biggest issue was a dead trigger, which occurred around round 300 and is why I sent it in. There were a lot of other smaller issues that were just annoying, like the gun failing to go completely into battery, slide not locking back on an empty mag and an inability to unload a round out of the chamber with the mag detached. You had to take the gun apart to get the round out (may be a common thing in very small guns). Along with these issues were several, several failures to feed. It could be that I just got a lemon. However after sending it into Ruger and having them replace the slide assembly there are no longer any issues after 500 rds.
My friend and I bought this gun but both of ours shoot about 4-6 inches low. Sending back to ruger. The rep said they are having some issues with this. Quality control seems poor. Wouldn’t necessarily buy this u til this issue is resolved. It seems like a great gun but can’t rely on it shooting that low
I never heard of this issue thanks.
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Good stuff
Thanks dude
Monarch, sierra, and hornady XTP rounds? This man shops at academy sports
Guilty as charged lol. Its on the way home.
@@bench175 it’s funny because I picked up all the same ammo the last time I was there too when I bought my LCP max. I wish they would get more steel cased .380 monarch bulk boxes, but it also isn’t the best ammo to feed this my LCP max with.
Do you recommend this as a new gun for a first time gun owner? Was comparing this to the Glock 19 and M&P Shield EZ. The size seems to be great for carry.
The Max 380 is definitely a better size for carry if you can only have one gun, and it would be fine for a new owner who is aware that a smaller gun will have more recoil. It might be better to first get a larger, easier gun to shoot that will promote practice and learning fundamentals, and then go for a small carry gun.
@@bench175 Thank you for the advice. Appreciate it!
If you force your brain to learn to shoot with your pinky hanging off you will shoot every gun better. There's no reason to use pinky extension, it only makes it harder to hide.
3 fingers will always be better than 2.
Just out of curiosity... in my .380EZ, I really like Underwood 68gr normal or +P Xtreme Defender and Underwood 100gr HCFN, normal - the +P verges on uncomfortable for my arthritis but is absolutely tolerable for 3-4 magazines. Anyway, the EZ is not very concealable on my 5'6", 150 lb frame so I' m thinking about keeping it for the bedstand and getting this Ruger for carry. I wondered what your thoughts were on that??
If you'll carry in a holster, and you're okay with no manual safety, it's hard to beat. I don't run hot ammo however because its so lightweight. I tried some Norma 85gr?1280fps and it kinda stung my trigger finger.
@@bench175 i think I'd get the "Sticky" pocket holster. My chosen ammo would be whatever shoots best in this platform that doesn't overwhelm it. I'd like to try Udwd 68gr XtDef non +P and Udwd 100gr HCFN non +P (975 fps, 211 fpe) also 85 gr Barnes. Fed HST
I would make sure you can rack the pistol and operate all its functions
Those small guns with people with weakened hands hard to hold onto
@@atleastimtrying5391 I can rack the slide on my buddy's LCP MAX, but it's still more snappy than I like. Guess I'll just try harder to make the EZ disappear.
🔫🔫🔫 Hopefully picking up my Max soon. I've learned in the past no to make judgment till they're broken in. Just saying
Congrats
What type of ammo do you carry? I also carry a 365x and today I backed out of buying 124 gr +p ammo because I’m not sure if I should stick to regular 124 gr ammo.
I also bought the same holster for my .380 lcp max and it didn’t sit in all the way. I had to force it in to place.
I've been using ammo with Hornady XTP bullets because I like the roundness of the hollow point for feeding reliability.
What kind of holster is that one that brings it more to your stomach ?
Vedder LightTuck with a Claw
@@bench175 thank you!
Can you carry this safely with one in the chamber?
Yes. I do.
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Thx
Call Ruger and they will send you new mags.
thanks i will
I won't buy any gun that comes with only one magazine!
What if it's the best gun in the world?
That’s a weird thing to say. This is a carry self defense gun. You only need one mag. It’s not a battle gun where u need multiple mags.
I agree. Outside of LEO, ASP has like one video of a civilian reloading and that was after the threat was down anyways. Doesn't happen real world. Someone will say yeah but.... but but but just carry a shotgun everywhere then.
Bizarre statement
They can sell stuff cheaper because they don’t include the extra magazine
That you can then get on your own
It definitely makes sense to include the 12 round magazine with this gun but it’s definitely not a dealbreaker that prevents me from getting the best pocket carry pistol there is