Mat Cauthon that's a shame... Christ even forbid humans to use swords, but instead people who call themselves as the followers of Christ use guns to make war... what a really shame
Well just a summary from the link, you are allowed to kill, but it has to be justified in God's eye. It's misunderstood on the subject of killing with the "Thou shalt not kill" part being mistranslated according to the link (I'm not really a religious guy so I don't really know much), Deuteronomy 20:1 is an example of God permitting war.
anthony ioane as a matter of fact, Luke 22:36 “He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one”
i like playing as the Otomo, they are the underdogs surrounded by Buddhist clans. i feel like Stannis Baratheon everytime just without the infamous defeat by the Boltons.
@Martin Silvan oh,the enemy overwhelmed us? Send the pew pew cav to their gen! Fire the big metal bamboos of destruction! Its time to smash those heathen potato!!
It feels more like Littlefinger, if you ask me. Defeating your enemies without even moving your army out of the Kyushu island, spamming ninjas to sabotage armies and missionaries to create christian revolts, overthrowing every clan on Chugoku peninsula and taking down Kyoto like it's nothing.. You win the game of thrones just by "uniting" the christian folks. Desu vult
Cielo Pachirisu you speak of the Otomo as if they were barbarians. Blitzkrieg was an execution by firing squad, used by the Nazis. The only half of it I didn't agree with, is that the ancient Catholicism Church delved too much into judgement during the Medieval Times. All people needed permission from the Holy Church of Rome to teach others what was written in the Bible. If done without permission,the Leaders of the Church would put them on trial for High Treason to the Church,and have them beheaded. But in truth,what was written in the Bible is supposed to be taught to the people. As Christians;our alliegence is to God,and Jesus,not to the Leaders of the Church in which many have tried to appear as God does. What those Leaders did in past made them the True Blasphemers!
Other clans: “We are the envy of all, our strengths come from our traditions and honor in battle. Otomo: “No sir, Powder and Artillery are the surest and most conciliatory measures we can adopt!”
@@jakobkiilerich3588 that is still part of Buddhism (the ikko sect) If anything, that tri religious war would be between Christianity, Buddhism and Shintoism
Portuguese: Amm dude can we trade here? Otomo: no! This is a close country! Portuguese: how about Jesus? Otomo: no! we're already having a religious indifferences here. Portuguese: how about our guns? Otomo: I'd like reconsider..
That's not true. The Tanegashima Tokitaka, who first purchased the two firearms and then had them replicated, saw that they required great skill and training to both master the use of and master the craft of producing them. The way the Nanban or Portuguese merchants described the concept of aiming, Tanegashima equated and noted that it as a form of meditation similar to some Buddhist teachings. He practiced firing everyday until he was able to hit 100 targets out of 100 targets without missing. The Samurai did not think it was cowardly to use, especially as you see how wide spread it became. The tactics created independent from Western help such as the way Oda Nobunaga defeated the Takeda cavalry. They even purchased and replicated their own version of European Steel Breastplates, called Tameshi dou or Tested Armor because it was tested to be effective at resisting bullets. All firearms did was make war more dynamic.
I don’t think it was so much the dishonor of using a gun, rather the dishonor of interacting with Christian, Mercantile Europeans that was considered dishonorable. Japan viewed Christianity as a danger to society, because it was new and took away power from traditional sources. Hence why it was banned for almost 200 years, with the punishment being death if you were found practicing. Japans social structure also weighed against Merchants, who were considered to be the lowest class of people, even lower than peasants, so daimyo and samurai dealing with merchants was generally considered to be beneath them. Foreign Merchants even more so. They also didn’t really have a need for foreign goods, as for the most part Japan was self sufficient, or traded with China and Korea. Other than firearms, which Japan quickly learned to make and manufacture by themselves, the Japanese Shogunate didn’t need or want anything from Europeans.
@@bigj1905 >Japan quickly learned to make and manufacture by themselves, the Japanese Shogunate didn’t need or want anything from Europeans. Didn't want? Absolutely true, didn't need though? That's debatable. European firearms and artillery technology was pretty much in every way superior to anything the Japanese made, and kept advancing even when the Japanese seemed to lag behind exactly because they were so bone headed. European doctrine was also honestly way ahead of the Japanese. You just can't learn what took the Europeans hundreds of years to figure out properly in a few years, even today a company that has never designed or manufactured firearms will run into huge issues if they ever try to do that without outside help, just look at the developement of the SA-80. No doubt the Japanese had the same problems too, at the time they had access through Europeans to what they probably thought was the perfect formula, but as is the case with firearms technology it would become obsolete in a few decades time, and from that point onwards they would have had to go through the same trial and error process that the Europeans did, but with half the preexisting knowledge and understanding of firearms and their manufacture. This is exactly why the next time Europeans, or rather their long lost brothers show up in Japan they show up with yet more cool guns they've never seen before.
"He practiced firing everyday until he was able to hit 100 targets out of 100 targets without missing." Ah so he became the worlds first person to attain an asian skill level.
@@TheThingInMySink But, Japan wasn’t at war, so they never needed to purchase weapons. They, like China, simply didn’t really want anything. Only when they realized how far behind they were did they rapidly industrialize. Yeah And ironically enough, say you can’t just learn what the took the Europeans hundred a of years and figure it out properly in a few years, but……..that’s exactly what they did. In two decades, Japan went from a feudal, agrarian society to a modern industrial society. Two decades. And then beat a European power a few years later. If that’s not rapid progress, then I don’t know what is.
It 's turned into a favourite tactic aswell, just raise christian revolts in neighbouring lands then come in and finish off the rebels when they take it, no need to tread on any alliance's feet (apart from those you're actively combating)
Conquering Kyushu is so much of a pain with them around, but on the other hand at least I can finally used my monks to incite rebellion more frequently
I like this new faction DLC.. I may buy it.. I got the Hattori which is fun.. but the combination between western and eastern cultures right off like that looks fun!
yeah, I find you have to literally eradicate the Catholics from Bungo and build a Buddhist temple in its place. Otherwise, there'd be no end to the religious uprisings.
In Japan the katana was only one weapon at a samurai's disposal and the bow had always seen greater use than the katana. Why would the musket be dishonorable?
because it requires no skill at all, you just point and it goes bang, any idiot can be taught to use a musket semi effective in hours, it takes months or years to learn how to properly use a bow.
Kez Dxx many of the Samurai considered the odors given off by the gunpowder explosions within the muskets' barrel to be of "Ill Fortune",and was why they said it was a weapon that is sure to give Victory,but gives no Honor. Many Samurai had nothing against shooting the enemy,because of its effect in accuracy!
jonasnee obviously right,but it makes nobody Stupid. Think of the accuracy the Portuguese had when hunting. Me however...yes I'd much rather use a bow if I ever went hunting.
Right now in my campaign. I have a missionary, ninja and gysha bothering the shogonate with the metsuke Watching the madness unnfold while Oda watches with glee. It's hilarious to see them get a different Daimyo after taking out the heirs while the Missionary preacher yells at them. The metsuke arrests the occasional ninja who gets hired.
Introducing a foreign religion to people of large population in island does sound like its gonna makes troubles. Did this happen to other islands countries when Spain or Portugal introduces them to religion or guns?
@@Brandonhayhew actually the Portuguese were more easygoing with religion since we were a small populated country. Hence official policy was more commerce oriented the religious aspect of our overseas empire was more of a prestige thing. The portuguese Jesuit priests were more easygoing than our Spanish counterparts. Portuguese in Asia and North Africa didn’t force conversions and were highly tolerant of other fates trying to blend religious syncretism rather than to appeal to religious orthodoxy like the Spanish did. Our priests were highly regarded as advisers and tutors to the Chinese emperor.This was on Asia and Muslim Africa mind you, on Subsaharan Africa and Brazil we forced the natives to convert.
@@Brandonhayhew oh definitely, and even then Christianity was the *second* foreign religion spread to Japan. The *first* time it happened was a millennium ago in the asuka period, when Buddhism came to Japan via one of the 3 Korean kingdoms (Baekje), who in turn got it from China, who in turn got it from India (via the silk road more or less)
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 it must have troubles, when introduced to foreign religions. Centuries later, a new foreign religions and thus new troubles. Does history repeats, or do they just cause disputes
You’d think the Tercos would be more op then how they already are in game. Given how advanced European armor and melee weapons were compared to the samurai. Not even counting the guns they have. But yeah I know balancing. But it’d still be funny to be able to take all of Japan with basically only Portuguese soldiers.
Except the portugese weren't that advanced. On the naval front they had been bested by the Ming same thing on land. The Ming army themselves had troubles dealing with the Japanese invasion of Korea. This is not 19th century europe with their breech-loaders and flintlocks (most importantly Ship of the line, steamships and advanced artillery technology that allowed them dominate naval battles). Finally gunpowder weapons are fairly widespread on the Asian mainland (artillery and various other powder weapons were the main power of the Ming army along witht their calvary and that is what allowed Zheng He to sail the Chinese fleet into SouthEast Asia unopposed and topple local goverments at will) . Finaly matchlock is an extremely simple and primitive technology that any country with metalworkers could make it and by the end of the Sengoku period, many Namban in Japan remarked that there were more matchlocks there than any single country in europe.
@@dabo5078 It can be simple to make with the right molds and knowledge. Things bought by the Europeans. Also that battle you mentioned had the Portuguese at a major number disadvantage, 5 against 50. Yet, the Portuguese had a huge advantage initially as their guns outreached the Ming. The only reason the Ming won is because they kind of just charged the few Portuguese ships down and boarded them. A similar battle happened except with 300 against 6. And yet most of the Portuguese ships got away as well. This seems more like the Chinese winning due to sheer overwhelming numbers and not technology. Portuguese had small amounts of actual military forces in Asia. They were there to trade, not conquer. But if they wanted to, they could probably have beaten the Chinese if they wanted to send all they had.
@@kaijuslayer3334 japan was many times more populous than Portugal at least 10 times more. Plus the Portuguese strength was only in its navy and fortified coastal towns..... given how insignificant the Portuguese army was, it is no wonder the Portuguese role was equally insignificantly present on the geopolitical table game of europe in the early modern period. The Anglo-Portuguese Alliance was part of the Portuguese strategy system to guarantee independence from Spain, as it greatly did at the Battle of Aljubarrota. Basically you are comparing a thalassocratic venetian empire or genoese (Portugal) vs. A fragmented holy roman empire (Japan)
@@kddiodox Portugal was capable of fighting the Ottomans, one of the most powerful nations in the world at the time, for hundreds of years during their empire period. They weren't insignificant in any sense. At the battle of Fukuda Bay, two of thier trade ships defeated 70 Japanese ships. 2 trading ships defeated a Japanese fleet; imagine a proper Portuguese War fleet.
@@paulom8804 The order of Santiago arose in the Kingdom of León and was named after the patron saint of Spain. And its original objective was to expel Muslims and protect pilgrims on the Camino de Santiago it is possible that they where some portuguese but most likely they spaniards spanish (in my opinion) and I know that the Portuguese were settled in Macao but the Spanish were also in Manila
the game actually emphasize on its encyclopedias and loading screen on how a samurai had to always train with the gun to be accurate with it. but if you sorta compare using the bow with using the gun, that statement isn't really wrong (especially when the game is centered around at the time period where guns were still getting its way into japan)
I'm sorry my timeframes are a bit rusty. But around this time weren't guns mainly about the reload skill. Since you shot round ball through a barrel without grooves within. I'm pretty sure it didn't quite end up where you aimed at. More like a general direction? We are talking about matchlocks here not modern rifles, right?
How to play Otomo Step 1. Defend the lands from enemy factions with lots of guns Step 2. Train the Pastor until he can incite rebellions Step 3. Invade in the guise of quelling the Rebels Step 4. Get Nanban trade ships and start blockade Step 5. Rinse and repeat 2 & 3 all the way to Kyoto
@@thewanderingdoomed4883 Build a chapel in every conquered provinces I get it, but is tearing down all religious sites and build church/chapel in its place, no matter how much bonus the site has, necessary? I still wonder how feasible it is to prepare for the attack with missionaries to create riots before the army moving in.
As one who plays Shimazu, Otomo is an unmitigated pain in my ass. Thier agents run around converting everytthing to christianity, then when I do take it over, its christian revolts and angry citizens and years of garrison troops to quell the anger.......ooooof.
In the riality is not otomo but rather portugal because that took fire arms to Japan was the Portuguese and who invented the caravels that is the boat at the beginning of the intro are the Portuguese. And also those who spread Christianity in Japan were the Portuguese.
Portugual: find Japan and bring them gunpowder weapons Everyone else seeing this video: DEUS VULT DEUS VULT! Me as a portuguese with curiosity about history: Did the portuguese joined the crussades?
Depends on what you mean by 'Crusades". Did a Portuguese monarch send an army to the holy land? No. However, the Portuguese coast was a valuable supply base for the crusader armies on the way to the Mediterranean. And, of course, there was also the reconquista, where the Portuguese fought against the moors who contolled most of southern Iberia.
Iberian Peninsula were considered to be valid as crusader targets during the 2nd crusade. Actually the thig that redeemed the 2nd Crusade was the conquest of Lisbon by a portuguese/crusader army.
It depends which Crusade - it didn't take part in Holy Crusades for Holy Land, but it did take part in Holy Crusade for Iberia, today known as _Reconquista._ It is essentially how this country was formed.
I wish CA hadn’t been so lazy with this. How expensive would it have been to bring in one voice actor to record a handful of lines and have a few graphics artists make a 5 second scene of matchlock ashigaru doing target practice?
Yep,but that is true with about any game which you have a different religion(or allegiance as in Fall Of The Samurai and Rise Of The Samurai) to other people. The problem being personally for me the economic. I am good at the strategic, governing and tactics XD
The Scandinavian Church model of Bishops who would carry an idol, sceptre, or Bible in one hand and an axe in the other was pretty effective - the missionary model didn't work, nor did conquest, but missionaries who also did some conquest? That was the sweet spot
There are still a lot of Catholics in Japan. But if Christianity doesn't fit in Japan for you, how would you react to information, that in beginning of XXth Century it considered coverting to Islam?
The intro in my opinon sucks and doesn't have the same feel. The part up to the Samurai lord learning about the matchlocks was alright (except for the female's voice). Everything after that was lame
Adam Baker I think it's one of the better intros. It has kind of a sinister undertone to it. Victory wipes away customer. Make the heathens kneel before god!
The Intro was copy pasted. when The nanban show up you get the gun intro/ when you discover Christianity its the later part of the intro Otomo intro was just a triangle in a square's spot
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HELLO NEIGHBORS. DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST? NO? WELL THEN BRING OUT THE RIFLES BOYS.
Mat Cauthon that's a shame... Christ even forbid humans to use swords, but instead people who call themselves as the followers of Christ use guns to make war... what a really shame
Broken Headphone Bullshit where does it say in the Bible that people cannot use swords.
I'm not too sure about that www.christiandataresources.com/killing.htm
Well just a summary from the link, you are allowed to kill, but it has to be justified in God's eye. It's misunderstood on the subject of killing with the "Thou shalt not kill" part being mistranslated according to the link (I'm not really a religious guy so I don't really know much), Deuteronomy 20:1 is an example of God permitting war.
anthony ioane as a matter of fact, Luke 22:36 “He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one”
I can see someone has the power of God and Anime on his side
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Power of God and _Portugal_
Otomo Sorin is based
Power of God, Anime, Portugal, and Gunpowder!
And guns, don't forget the guns
The Deus Vult clan. Now with the gunpowder!
mieszczuch *desu vult
mieszczuch
So anyway I started blasting heretics
Nice
Templars: Deus Vult!!!
Otomo Samurai: Kami No Ishi!!!
i like playing as the Otomo, they are the underdogs surrounded by Buddhist clans. i feel like Stannis Baratheon everytime just without the infamous defeat by the Boltons.
Remember that Stannis wasnt defeated by the Boltons, in the books. ;)
T W E N T Y G O O D M E N
@Martin Silvan oh,the enemy overwhelmed us? Send the pew pew cav to their gen! Fire the big metal bamboos of destruction! Its time to smash those heathen potato!!
It feels more like Littlefinger, if you ask me.
Defeating your enemies without even moving your army out of the Kyushu island, spamming ninjas to sabotage armies and missionaries to create christian revolts, overthrowing every clan on Chugoku peninsula and taking down Kyoto like it's nothing..
You win the game of thrones just by "uniting" the christian folks.
Desu vult
ONE GOD ONE FAITH ONE KING
The Otomo, with our guns, our religion, and our steel will calmly--
BLITZKRIEG.... EVERYTHING!!!!!
Cielo Pachirisu you speak of the Otomo as if they were
barbarians. Blitzkrieg was an execution by firing squad,
used by the Nazis. The only half of it I didn't agree with,
is that the ancient Catholicism Church delved too much
into judgement during the Medieval Times. All people
needed permission from the Holy Church of Rome to
teach others what was written in the Bible. If done
without permission,the Leaders of the Church would
put them on trial for High Treason to the Church,and
have them beheaded. But in truth,what was written in
the Bible is supposed to be taught to the people. As
Christians;our alliegence is to God,and Jesus,not to
the Leaders of the Church in which many have tried
to appear as God does. What those Leaders did in
past made them the True Blasphemers!
+Kylaro Korbor
Blitzkrieg isn't an execution it's a strategy that utilize speed and mobility to quickly defeat the enemy without recovery
Kylaro Korbor
The people of the high church were the ones to lead to all of this and more
@@kylarokorbor528 Thanks for that History fact.
Colton *history farb
Other clans: “We are the envy of all, our strengths come from our traditions and honor in battle.
Otomo: “No sir, Powder and Artillery are the surest and most conciliatory measures we can adopt!”
Rolls in with ten armstrong guns
God is with in the side of best European Cannons
Napoleon Otomo
"An explosion settles many arguments" -one of my fave TW quotes
Spoke like a man of culture i see, John Adams HBO reference.
Praise Jesus and pass the boomsticks.
Nice reference!
Power of Jesus, gunpowder and anime!
@@poi1612 crimge
@@comradekenobi6908 crunge
@@poi1612 don't f-k with me! i have the power of God *and* anime on my side!
in my Otomo campaign i usually like to start a Holy Crusade against Uesugi and Ikko-Ikki and start a triple religion war :DDDD
Yoshika Waifuji Heathens who cling to the old ways will be compelled by the power of Christ to kneel before God.
The Uesugi and the Ikko-Ikki were both Buddhists
Freakr X Ikko-ikki have their own religion in the game
@@jakobkiilerich3588 that is still part of Buddhism (the ikko sect)
If anything, that tri religious war would be between Christianity, Buddhism and Shintoism
@@lagucegothsong5559 you probably wont see this but I read this comment the exact moment the narrarator said it, scared the shit out of me
European Traders: Have Guns and Cannons
Otomo: Mind if I Praise the Lord
Guns and cannons, but also Jesuits
And pass the ammunition.
Portuguese: Amm dude can we trade here?
Otomo: no! This is a close country!
Portuguese: how about Jesus?
Otomo: no! we're already having a religious indifferences here.
Portuguese: how about our guns?
Otomo: I'd like reconsider..
Japanese: ‘Your weapons kill without honour or skill!’
Portuguese: ‘Oh, so you don’t want them.’
Japanese: ‘I want your entire stock!’
That's not true. The Tanegashima Tokitaka, who first purchased the two firearms and then had them replicated, saw that they required great skill and training to both master the use of and master the craft of producing them. The way the Nanban or Portuguese merchants described the concept of aiming, Tanegashima equated and noted that it as a form of meditation similar to some Buddhist teachings. He practiced firing everyday until he was able to hit 100 targets out of 100 targets without missing. The Samurai did not think it was cowardly to use, especially as you see how wide spread it became. The tactics created independent from Western help such as the way Oda Nobunaga defeated the Takeda cavalry. They even purchased and replicated their own version of European Steel Breastplates, called Tameshi dou or Tested Armor because it was tested to be effective at resisting bullets. All firearms did was make war more dynamic.
Well samurai wasn't much honorable at that time, i remember the samurai invasion in Korea were much brutal
I don’t think it was so much the dishonor of using a gun, rather the dishonor of interacting with Christian, Mercantile Europeans that was considered dishonorable.
Japan viewed Christianity as a danger to society, because it was new and took away power from traditional sources. Hence why it was banned for almost 200 years, with the punishment being death if you were found practicing.
Japans social structure also weighed against Merchants, who were considered to be the lowest class of people, even lower than peasants, so daimyo and samurai dealing with merchants was generally considered to be beneath them. Foreign Merchants even more so.
They also didn’t really have a need for foreign goods, as for the most part Japan was self sufficient, or traded with China and Korea.
Other than firearms, which Japan quickly learned to make and manufacture by themselves, the Japanese Shogunate didn’t need or want anything from Europeans.
@@bigj1905 >Japan quickly learned to make and manufacture by themselves, the Japanese Shogunate didn’t need or want anything from Europeans.
Didn't want? Absolutely true, didn't need though? That's debatable.
European firearms and artillery technology was pretty much in every way superior to anything the Japanese made, and kept advancing even when the Japanese seemed to lag behind exactly because they were so bone headed. European doctrine was also honestly way ahead of the Japanese. You just can't learn what took the Europeans hundreds of years to figure out properly in a few years, even today a company that has never designed or manufactured firearms will run into huge issues if they ever try to do that without outside help, just look at the developement of the SA-80. No doubt the Japanese had the same problems too, at the time they had access through Europeans to what they probably thought was the perfect formula, but as is the case with firearms technology it would become obsolete in a few decades time, and from that point onwards they would have had to go through the same trial and error process that the Europeans did, but with half the preexisting knowledge and understanding of firearms and their manufacture. This is exactly why the next time Europeans, or rather their long lost brothers show up in Japan they show up with yet more cool guns they've never seen before.
"He practiced firing everyday until he was able to hit 100 targets out of 100 targets without missing." Ah so he became the worlds first person to attain an asian skill level.
@@TheThingInMySink But, Japan wasn’t at war, so they never needed to purchase weapons. They, like China, simply didn’t really want anything. Only when they realized how far behind they were did they rapidly industrialize. Yeah
And ironically enough, say you can’t just learn what the took the Europeans hundred a of years and figure it out properly in a few years, but……..that’s exactly what they did.
In two decades, Japan went from a feudal, agrarian society to a modern industrial society.
Two decades.
And then beat a European power a few years later.
If that’s not rapid progress, then I don’t know what is.
They literally have the power of god and anime on their side
If the Otomo do actually survive, they become an unstoppable rape train. It's rather scary.
It 's turned into a favourite tactic aswell, just raise christian revolts in neighbouring lands then come in and finish off the rebels when they take it, no need to tread on any alliance's feet (apart from those you're actively combating)
Conquering Kyushu is so much of a pain with them around, but on the other hand at least I can finally used my monks to incite rebellion more frequently
WE WILL TAKE JERU- NO, KYOTO!
DEUS- NO, DESU VULT DESU VULT xD
For Jesus-sempai
Screw Jerusalem, kyoto is crealy the Holy city
@Alvi Syahri Saint oniisan, a manga of Jesus and Buddha being holy roommates
0:41 ( accidently pulls trigger )
kills the local monk
Starts religious war
The otomo campaign is essentially the crusades on japanese steroids :bang bang edition
Other clans: Have their main leader speak
Otomo: W-We dont do that here
Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!
"Always remember to have the hollow end pointing to the enemy or to open space, never to a friendly samurai or your own face!"
Deusu Vaurtu!
I like this new faction DLC.. I may buy it.. I got the Hattori which is fun.. but the combination between western and eastern cultures right off like that looks fun!
Hattori is fun? Dafq?
Hattori is painfully boring.
@@hannibalburgers477 Hattori weren't even a real clan
@@Takeda_Katsuyori The Hattori were a real clan. In real life, the Hattori were known as the Iga Ikki.
Such a shamefur dispray!
disuhonoru famiri
Victory wipes away dishonor.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Hey I know that song.
Faith! Steel! Gunpowder! Summon the Daimyo!
I came, I saw
I came, I saw
I praise the Lord, then break the law
I take what's mine, then take some more
It rains, it pours, it rains, it pours
Other clans: kanata fight me you coward!
Otomo: so anyways I started blasting
Bungo is hard to handle when you're using shimazu because they're always Rioting
yeah, I find you have to literally eradicate the Catholics from Bungo and build a Buddhist temple in its place. Otherwise, there'd be no end to the religious uprisings.
You mean you don't convert to Christianity as Shimazu?
In Japan the katana was only one weapon at a samurai's disposal and the bow had always seen greater use than the katana. Why would the musket be dishonorable?
because it requires no skill at all, you just point and it goes bang, any idiot can be taught to use a musket semi effective in hours, it takes months or years to learn how to properly use a bow.
Kez Dxx cuz any low citizens can fire a Flintlock Muskets and kill his target.
Years of practice equals honor. Got it.
Kez Dxx many of the Samurai considered the odors given
off by the gunpowder explosions within the muskets' barrel
to be of "Ill Fortune",and was why they said it was a weapon
that is sure to give Victory,but gives no Honor. Many Samurai
had nothing against shooting the enemy,because of its effect
in accuracy!
jonasnee obviously right,but it makes nobody Stupid. Think of the
accuracy the Portuguese had when hunting. Me however...yes I'd
much rather use a bow if I ever went hunting.
It's the BOA CARALHO clan
Portugeese missionaries: we are here to preach you about our lord and savior.
Nobunaga: yadayada, I'm more interested in your stick that go boom
Right now in my campaign. I have a missionary, ninja and gysha bothering the shogonate with the metsuke Watching the madness unnfold while Oda watches with glee. It's hilarious to see them get a different Daimyo after taking out the heirs while the Missionary preacher yells at them. The metsuke arrests the occasional ninja who gets hired.
Technically, not true. I tried Blitzkrieg in the Otomo campaign first time I played it ... you get a lot of Buddhist rebellions that way!
Thesocraticbreed me too m8
apparently is imposible do it that way and im used to that in total wars, i got rebellions fucking everywhere
Introducing a foreign religion to people of large population in island does sound like its gonna makes troubles. Did this happen to other islands countries when Spain or Portugal introduces them to religion or guns?
@@Brandonhayhew actually the Portuguese were more easygoing with religion since we were a small populated country. Hence official policy was more commerce oriented the religious aspect of our overseas empire was more of a prestige thing. The portuguese Jesuit priests were more easygoing than our Spanish counterparts. Portuguese in Asia and North Africa didn’t force conversions and were highly tolerant of other fates trying to blend religious syncretism rather than to appeal to religious orthodoxy like the Spanish did. Our priests were highly regarded as advisers and tutors to the Chinese emperor.This was on Asia and Muslim Africa mind you, on Subsaharan Africa and Brazil we forced the natives to convert.
@@Brandonhayhew oh definitely, and even then Christianity was the *second* foreign religion spread to Japan. The *first* time it happened was a millennium ago in the asuka period, when Buddhism came to Japan via one of the 3 Korean kingdoms (Baekje), who in turn got it from China, who in turn got it from India (via the silk road more or less)
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 it must have troubles, when introduced to foreign religions. Centuries later, a new foreign religions and thus new troubles. Does history repeats, or do they just cause disputes
Deus Vult intensifies.
You’d think the Tercos would be more op then how they already are in game. Given how advanced European armor and melee weapons were compared to the samurai. Not even counting the guns they have.
But yeah I know balancing. But it’d still be funny to be able to take all of Japan with basically only Portuguese soldiers.
But they still have a weakness, they can be recruit in every province you have, so you still must have some melee infantry for protecting them
Except the portugese weren't that advanced. On the naval front they had been bested by the Ming same thing on land. The Ming army themselves had troubles dealing with the Japanese invasion of Korea. This is not 19th century europe with their breech-loaders and flintlocks (most importantly Ship of the line, steamships and advanced artillery technology that allowed them dominate naval battles). Finally gunpowder weapons are fairly widespread on the Asian mainland (artillery and various other powder weapons were the main power of the Ming army along witht their calvary and that is what allowed Zheng He to sail the Chinese fleet into SouthEast Asia unopposed and topple local goverments at will) . Finaly matchlock is an extremely simple and primitive technology that any country with metalworkers could make it and by the end of the Sengoku period, many Namban in Japan remarked that there were more matchlocks there than any single country in europe.
@@dabo5078 It can be simple to make with the right molds and knowledge. Things bought by the Europeans. Also that battle you mentioned had the Portuguese at a major number disadvantage, 5 against 50. Yet, the Portuguese had a huge advantage initially as their guns outreached the Ming. The only reason the Ming won is because they kind of just charged the few Portuguese ships down and boarded them. A similar battle happened except with 300 against 6. And yet most of the Portuguese ships got away as well. This seems more like the Chinese winning due to sheer overwhelming numbers and not technology. Portuguese had small amounts of actual military forces in Asia. They were there to trade, not conquer. But if they wanted to, they could probably have beaten the Chinese if they wanted to send all they had.
@@kaijuslayer3334 japan was many times more populous than Portugal at least 10 times more. Plus the Portuguese strength was only in its navy and fortified coastal towns..... given how insignificant the Portuguese army was, it is no wonder the Portuguese role was equally insignificantly present on the geopolitical table game of europe in the early modern period. The Anglo-Portuguese Alliance was part of the Portuguese strategy system to guarantee independence from Spain, as it greatly did at the Battle of Aljubarrota. Basically you are comparing a thalassocratic venetian empire or genoese (Portugal) vs. A fragmented holy roman empire (Japan)
@@kddiodox Portugal was capable of fighting the Ottomans, one of the most powerful nations in the world at the time, for hundreds of years during their empire period. They weren't insignificant in any sense. At the battle of Fukuda Bay, two of thier trade ships defeated 70 Japanese ships. 2 trading ships defeated a Japanese fleet; imagine a proper Portuguese War fleet.
"I have the power of God and dakka on my side"
Portuguese: "Believe in Deus."
Otomo: "Not too sure about that."
Portuguese: "We got armas."
Otomo: "So anyways, I start blastin'. BANG! BAH!"
what they wear on their chest is the cross of Santiago so they are not Portuguese, they are Spaniards
@@hernancortes8309 Nós também tinhamos cá a Ordem de Santiago e usavamos a sua cruz...
@@paulom8804 The order of Santiago arose in the Kingdom of León and was named after the patron saint of Spain. And its original objective was to expel Muslims and protect pilgrims on the Camino de Santiago
it is possible that they where some portuguese but most likely they spaniards spanish (in my opinion)
and I know that the Portuguese were settled in Macao but the Spanish were also in Manila
In za name of Jyezusu-sama, we march to Kyoto! Deusu Buruto!
Otomo be like: Yeh yeah, lord and saviour blah blah blah, NOW GIMME THEM GUNS
IT'S DEUS VULT TIME.
Basically, faith steel and gunpowder
"...without skill" That's how you know game devs have never shot a firearm before lmao
the game actually emphasize on its encyclopedias and loading screen on how a samurai had to always train with the gun to be accurate with it. but if you sorta compare using the bow with using the gun, that statement isn't really wrong (especially when the game is centered around at the time period where guns were still getting its way into japan)
I'm sorry my timeframes are a bit rusty. But around this time weren't guns mainly about the reload skill.
Since you shot round ball through a barrel without grooves within. I'm pretty sure it didn't quite end up where you aimed at. More like a general direction? We are talking about matchlocks here not modern rifles, right?
Those can be managed if you move fast enough. Gotta use those priests, upgrade your castles, and garrison those troops, man.
For the name of God, our enemies are chastised!!
How to play Otomo
Step 1. Defend the lands from enemy factions with lots of guns
Step 2. Train the Pastor until he can incite rebellions
Step 3. Invade in the guise of quelling the Rebels
Step 4. Get Nanban trade ships and start blockade
Step 5. Rinse and repeat 2 & 3 all the way to Kyoto
Reject katana, embrace Jesus
Beautifur Dispray!!!!!!!
Portuguese: hey Otomo do you want to change religion
Otomo: uh nope
Portuguese: what about the guns
Otomo:give me that
It is an act of great evil that the Otomo clan is locked behind a paywall.
*Anime now powered with Jesus and Gunpowder*
Hardest campaign so far, rebels in every province
Because of otomo surounded by buddhist clan, you can use you missionary too spread religion, and build chapel in every province you have
@@thewanderingdoomed4883
Build a chapel in every conquered provinces I get it, but is tearing down all religious sites and build church/chapel in its place, no matter how much bonus the site has, necessary?
I still wonder how feasible it is to prepare for the attack with missionaries to create riots before the army moving in.
Knock knock this is us Portuguese! We came here to spread faith of peace..... We can't come in? Well thats too bad loose the cannon boys!
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Even when they gave a 1 month notice
They're Portuguese.
Otomo experince : "My gun, anyway I started blast BANG BANG".
As one who plays Shimazu, Otomo is an unmitigated pain in my ass. Thier agents run around converting everytthing to christianity, then when I do take it over, its christian revolts and angry citizens and years of garrison troops to quell the anger.......ooooof.
Isn't it the same cinematic for first contact with portuguese?
So anyway I started blasting
Women fight with swords!!! Men fight with cannon!
Ah yes, Christianity. Bringing you peace, acceptance, love and boomsticks since 1500
It’s cool to see two completely independent cultures interact
500 imported matchlock ashigaru
Sounds like an overpowered faction to me.
LOL, they just combined the Nanban Trade event, the Convert to Christianity event, and a small bit of FOTS intro with some editting and call it a day
I'm not a fan that they literally copypasted the dialogue from the Nanban Trade and Christianity events for the Otomo's intro.
Ikr
They bring Jesus and guns. Lot of guns..
How come the Otomo don't get as much of an intro as the other clans? This just feels like it was cut short.
Dont forget!!! Deshima Island ist V.O.C Opperhoofden!!!! :)
Jesus Christ didn’t save them when I destroyed their clan
ashigaru mathclock goes pew pew
In the riality is not otomo but rather portugal because that took fire arms to Japan was the Portuguese and who invented the caravels that is the boat at the beginning of the intro are the Portuguese. And also those who spread Christianity in Japan were the Portuguese.
weren't the spanish involved too for spreading christianity in japan?
no, america belonged to Spain, the rest of the world to Portugal
DPOH Productions Wtf are you saying
Pvt. Jack its freaking true
Google treaty of tordesillas
Budi Caesar I know fucking history, the treaty of Tordesillas gave us Brazil as well.
Omg, installing now
Deus Vult we will take Kioto!
Portugual: find Japan and bring them gunpowder weapons
Everyone else seeing this video: DEUS VULT DEUS VULT!
Me as a portuguese with curiosity about history: Did the portuguese joined the crussades?
Depends on what you mean by 'Crusades". Did a Portuguese monarch send an army to the holy land? No. However, the Portuguese coast was a valuable supply base for the crusader armies on the way to the Mediterranean. And, of course, there was also the reconquista, where the Portuguese fought against the moors who contolled most of southern Iberia.
Iberian Peninsula were considered to be valid as crusader targets during the 2nd crusade. Actually the thig that redeemed the 2nd Crusade was the conquest of Lisbon by a portuguese/crusader army.
It depends which Crusade - it didn't take part in Holy Crusades for Holy Land, but it did take part in Holy Crusade for Iberia, today known as _Reconquista._ It is essentially how this country was formed.
Otomo. Japan's Texas
Kami-sama wills it!
they really just use the nanban video as the Otomo intro lmao
who let sis voice the opening?!?!
Desu Vult manifest
so theyre from the south.... they love their guns and also want to spreat jesus
....are the otomo just texans?
I wish CA hadn’t been so lazy with this. How expensive would it have been to bring in one voice actor to record a handful of lines and have a few graphics artists make a 5 second scene of matchlock ashigaru doing target practice?
Yep,but that is true with about any game which you have a different religion(or allegiance as in Fall Of The Samurai and Rise Of The Samurai) to other people. The problem being personally for me the economic. I am good at the strategic, governing and tactics XD
As we all know guns are much better in religious conversion than the priests, aren't they?
The Scandinavian Church model of Bishops who would carry an idol, sceptre, or Bible in one hand and an axe in the other was pretty effective - the missionary model didn't work, nor did conquest, but missionaries who also did some conquest? That was the sweet spot
i hate how she says "to kneel before g o t"
She must be unknowingly pronouncing God like a German (Gott)
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 i think they overdid it with the stereotypical japanese accent
@@neymarmessironaldo5881 Shamefur opinion
Jesusu Curishito! XD
Isn't this the gun video, not the Otomo?
It's also the Otomo intro. Sad really.
Wow!
japan crusade
Music is great! Maybe is some ost?
Just search Shogun 2 soundtrack.
Uhh, aiming is a skill
Weapon that Kills without skill... takes whole campaign to unlock some dudes with horrible reload skill
When you play as otomo and recruit matchlock ashigaru from the start
Shimazu swaglords >>> Otomo fishmongers
If japan had the second amendment😂
They look more as spaniards conquistadors than portuguese
I see
Tp for my bungo
SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
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I don't know man, japanese and christianity just does'nt fit right.
There are still a lot of Catholics in Japan.
But if Christianity doesn't fit in Japan for you, how would you react to information, that in beginning of XXth Century it considered coverting to Islam?
Probably the part about god.
The intro in my opinon sucks and doesn't have the same feel. The part up to the Samurai lord learning about the matchlocks was alright (except for the female's voice). Everything after that was lame
Lols playing as otomo is one of the more challenging and engaging faction in game.
Adam Baker I think it's one of the better intros. It has kind of a sinister undertone to it. Victory wipes away customer. Make the heathens kneel before god!
The Intro was copy pasted. when The nanban show up you get the gun intro/ when you discover Christianity its the later part of the intro Otomo intro was just a triangle in a square's spot