Hi from one of the people of the internet. Thank you for your videos! I love your voice and the content you bring. The way you investigate each set of pencils is such a joy and always look forward to what you bring to us. Hope you are having a wonderful coloring day
What we always suspected has now been proven beyond doubt! Thank you for your investigation. One upside is that if one colour pencil runs down in one set, you might find its double in another.
Thanks for this video. I'm on a tight budget and this info is greatly appreciated. It's amazing how prices differ for the same product under a different name.
Great review! I wish some of these brands would promote unique or unusual colors, rather than just the standard mix of colors. Produce a set of pigmented set of red or “florals”. Just my two cents. Thanks for your analysis!
Harry from The Art Gear Guide mentioned the topic of white labeling in one of his reviews. One company buys pens from another and then sells them under its own name. Brutfuner pens are: Kalour, Shuttle Art, Soucolor to name just a few. The Hiforny pens obviously seem to be Brutfuner pens.
Yep, fully aware of whitelabeled pencils, I mentioned it it my Brutfuner video a few years back too. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, it's appreciated 🥰
I think there are one or two factories merrily churning out pencils and theyre being constantly repackaged under different names and in different combinations. Boxes, tins, tubes, cases. 60, 75, 120, black edition, sealed ends, with or without extras - whatever. It's an effective marketing technique! The pencils are good quality for the price, mine are Brutfuners sold as Wan Shui but i later got a bigger pack sold under a different name - same pencils. Good greens, browns and purples to supplement my Polychromos pencils 😊
That is exactly it, and the biggest issue is the confusion it brings when trying to price-check them. And I think that's the point, unfortunately. I've seen Brutfuner-style pencils sold with SO many different names on the listing but the picture shows "Brutfuner" on the tin, same for what I call the "touch" alcohol markers (essentially any cheap alcohol marker that comes in the same square barrel in either white or black, re-labelled with multiple company names).
Hi Lily! Interesting….i have the brutfuner square and also the arrtx, but they are different in my opinion. The arrtx feels a tiny bit creamier than the Brutfuner square and the colors are totally different. I like them both so i have lots of cheaper pencils next to my expensive ones!😁
I have polychromos and Derwents but saw these in a lovely little case on Amazon Canada for an appealing price ( for 120 pencils , and with all the extras ) . I don’t have Kalours or brutfuners so thought I’d get them for fun and travel as I don’t want to take my $ pencils . Thanks I could tell they were made by one of those companies ; nice to have it confirmed ! 😊
There are pencil factories that makes a pencil range, then smaller/ mid range or new companies can choose from their colour range and any specific things that they want on and in pencils and the packaging. Essentially the companies are just putting their brand name printed on usually the same (or very similar) pencils. People generally have no idea that this happens, unless they buy from multiple brands and suspect they’re the same pencil. That’s why companies can keep their price points lower and if a brand gets more popular, they then can mark up the price. Obviously this is different for more expensive/professional pencils that usually come from an older well established company. They most likely wouldn’t outsource and have their own factory.
Yep, fully aware of white labelling, but many are not and will buy every set of cheap Chinese pencils that come out, which is why I make these videos. It surprises that much more well know colouring channels don't always know this! 😉
Thank you for this video! I was on the fence on whether to get them or not as I couldn't tell if they were oil or wax and I would prefer another set like the original round Bruts. The largest classic set I have are the 48 count Brutfuners. I am curious, though, how well does that blender work on the hi forney? It looks exactly like an 8 pack I got on Temu but it doesn't work on my Bruts at all.
They work on the cheap Crayola's and they work a little on water soluble pencils as well. When I get home tonight, I will have to try them on the Hi forneys.
I have a 72 set of black barrel/black wood Hifourney pencils and I LOVE how creamy and soft they are. I wanted to get a bigger pack but they only have the black set in 72 colors, and I wasn't sure about the white barrels because as you discovered they're the same as the Kalours and I'm not sure if they're the same as the black versions I have. They are different from the Brutfuners I have but I don't have the black barrel ones, and the only Kalours I have are watercolor ones (which do feel similarly creamy, but idk if that's because they're watercolor pencils). Now that you've confirmed what I thought I have better chances to decide on packs to buy at least, since some of the Hifourney sets (the 120 set) comes in a beautiful case and is really cheap (and discounted right now). My only issue is justifying the purchase when I already have a 180 set of Brutfuners when they're similar enough according to your tests XD (I think the answer is they aren't worth it for now, so thank you for saving my poor wallet!!)
I'm always tempted by new pencils too...even though I know most now are made by the same factory! I do love my 180 black barrelled Brutfuners but 12 of them are metallic (which I'm not fond of) so it's really just 168 colours.... just lol..😅
I've contacted the seller of Kalour at A-zon asking about the difference between their 180 set colored barrel with an elephant on the black tin vs. black barreled with a dear(?) on the red tin since in the description they are the same apart from the info about the core size ( 3.3 vs. 3.8mm respectively. The answer I was given was that the black barrels are more "professional" grade 😶😑 I wonder if they are the same and with the same numbers as the black Brutfuners now 🤔 I think I can buy 180 black Kalours cheaper than Brutfuners 'cause idk why their prices went up quite a lot
I really love this video always chuckel . to me they look like all the other pencils from Amazon (to me ) I am planning to buy the 150 set of the Holbien pencils ....when I have saved enough. hahahah . my want Monster still wants Caaren D ACHE Luminace 100 set ......lovlely video . good info . Happy Swatching xxxxx
Hello 😊 Could you review The Works pencils and WH Smith coloring pens? It would be great to see more reviews on British high street shops as I'm trying to avoid Amazon and online shopping. PS: I loved your video on The Range markers-I own them and it was wonderful to see them featured. ❤😊
Great video. Thank you. Brutfuner appear to be made in Shenzen. However it appears H and B, based in Shanghai make Arteza (and some Staetler) both of which are listed as ‘partners’ on the H and B website. H and B also make macaron pencils. I think H and B make Artxx, , Kalour and I suspect also Evazar - plus a few more, like your Hiforny. I’m not totally convinced they make Brutfuner, though your argument seems very convincing But I recently bought a pack off Amazon by Bajotien - and inside the pencils were clearly labelled ‘Brutfuner!’. I’ve now started to buy H and B own branded ones from Amazon, (which seem pretty reasonable) plus Brutfuner.
2-3 years ago, before H&B and Kalour were on the scene, the company that were producing the Brutfuner pencils told me they manufacturer both the Arteza and Castle Arts pencils. Since then lots more whitelabeled versions have popped up. Either way, all decent pencils. 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK that’s so interesting. Thank you so much for this reply. It confirms my thoughts, and yes, they are all great pencils - and good value - but how annoying to pay for a set of pencils labelled as made by B , in all good faith, only find you already have the set, albeit labelled as manufactured by C!
@bethzolin6046 Yes that's so true! You end up with 10 packs of the same pencil (although some people will swear otherwise 😆) I'll have to look up the name of the company, I contacted them with regard to whitelabelling pencils.
So I've watched all your videos about colored pencils. If you had 100, I would have watched them all. No matter how long they are. 😂😄 I just want a set of colored pencils, that are inexpensive. Where I don't care whether I get a new set or not. I have Polys and Arrtx. As I really use them both a lot, buying a completely new set of the Arrtx every time a few pencils are used up, is stupid and, above all, too expensive in the long run for me. Especially at the price they have here. (70 Euro). I'm saving up for a 2nd high-quality set, and until then, I'll just order Brutfurner. The old round ones 😄 Thank you for all the videos!
@Melinda.H Very wise words Melinda. Pencil sets you can buy open stock does make more sense, that's the reason I like my Polys, single replacements are easy to get. 🥰
i have these set they remind of my other sey h&b set but it also remind of kalour but the h&b are more pigmented then kalour set i also have thats my thought anyways great video thou
I've not tried H&B but here in the on Amazon there's a H&B set in a case that's identical to a Kalour set in a case. So... my guess is they are the same too! 🥰
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Hi from one of the people of the internet. Thank you for your videos! I love your voice and the content you bring. The way you investigate each set of pencils is such a joy and always look forward to what you bring to us. Hope you are having a wonderful coloring day
Aww thank you! 🥰
I love the round box
What we always suspected has now been proven beyond doubt! Thank you for your investigation. One upside is that if one colour pencil runs down in one set, you might find its double in another.
Yes, exactly. You can't buy replacements open stock... but you'll likely find one in another of your sets! 😅🥰
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I'm just gonna have a big sniff, hold on... 😂😂😂 I love your narrative! 👍🏽 🏆
Thanks for this video. I'm on a tight budget and this info is greatly appreciated. It's amazing how prices differ for the same product under a different name.
Thanks so much for the video & comparisons! Great info & video!❤
Thanks BoBeanie!
Da da daahhhh, another mystery solved by Chief Inspector Lily of the Internet😆🥰
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I love it when you test out pencils
Great review! I wish some of these brands would promote unique or unusual colors, rather than just the standard mix of colors. Produce a set of pigmented set of red or “florals”. Just my two cents. Thanks for your analysis!
Yes, that's would be a good idea. 🥰
Harry from The Art Gear Guide mentioned the topic of white labeling in one of his reviews. One company buys pens from another and then sells them under its own name. Brutfuner pens are: Kalour, Shuttle Art, Soucolor to name just a few. The Hiforny pens obviously seem to be Brutfuner pens.
Yep, fully aware of whitelabeled pencils, I mentioned it it my Brutfuner video a few years back too. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, it's appreciated 🥰
I think there are one or two factories merrily churning out pencils and theyre being constantly repackaged under different names and in different combinations.
Boxes, tins, tubes, cases. 60, 75, 120, black edition, sealed ends, with or without extras - whatever. It's an effective marketing technique!
The pencils are good quality for the price, mine are Brutfuners sold as Wan Shui but i later got a bigger pack sold under a different name - same pencils. Good greens, browns and purples to supplement my Polychromos pencils 😊
That is exactly it, and the biggest issue is the confusion it brings when trying to price-check them. And I think that's the point, unfortunately. I've seen Brutfuner-style pencils sold with SO many different names on the listing but the picture shows "Brutfuner" on the tin, same for what I call the "touch" alcohol markers (essentially any cheap alcohol marker that comes in the same square barrel in either white or black, re-labelled with multiple company names).
Absolutely. People own 10 sets of pencils... and they're all the same! I agree they are decent quality for the money. 🥰
Hi Lily! Interesting….i have the brutfuner square and also the arrtx, but they are different in my opinion. The arrtx feels a tiny bit creamier than the Brutfuner square and the colors are totally different. I like them both so i have lots of cheaper pencils next to my expensive ones!😁
Yes, I think the Arrtx are different. My Arrtx are... hmm... rougher than my round Brutfuners. Cheap penciks are fun! 🥰
I have polychromos and Derwents but saw these in a lovely little case on Amazon Canada for an appealing price ( for 120 pencils , and with all the extras ) . I don’t have Kalours or brutfuners so thought I’d get them for fun and travel as I don’t want to take my $ pencils . Thanks I could tell they were made by one of those companies ; nice to have it confirmed ! 😊
They are decent pencils, definitely worthwhile if you don't already have any from the same factory 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK oh that’s good to know ! Thanks ! ☺️
There are pencil factories that makes a pencil range, then smaller/ mid range or new companies can choose from their colour range and any specific things that they want on and in pencils and the packaging. Essentially the companies are just putting their brand name printed on usually the same (or very similar) pencils. People generally have no idea that this happens, unless they buy from multiple brands and suspect they’re the same pencil. That’s why companies can keep their price points lower and if a brand gets more popular, they then can mark up the price. Obviously this is different for more expensive/professional pencils that usually come from an older well established company. They most likely wouldn’t outsource and have their own factory.
Yep, fully aware of white labelling, but many are not and will buy every set of cheap Chinese pencils that come out, which is why I make these videos. It surprises that much more well know colouring channels don't always know this! 😉
Love love love my Hiforny pencils, I have the black addiction plus the 120 set, amazing video as always xxx
Thanks Janet! 🥰
I love it when you test out pencils. 😃 x
This is so fascinating, what a stunning review ☺☺
It is interesting, I agree! 🥰
Inspector Lily Investigates The Pencil Puzzles. Love Watching You. X
Thanks Debs, hope you are doing a bit better 🥰
Thank you so much for your video. Really helpfull! Greetings from Spain.
@@Sildr thanks for watching! 🥰
Thank you for this video! I was on the fence on whether to get them or not as I couldn't tell if they were oil or wax and I would prefer another set like the original round Bruts. The largest classic set I have are the 48 count Brutfuners. I am curious, though, how well does that blender work on the hi forney? It looks exactly like an 8 pack I got on Temu but it doesn't work on my Bruts at all.
@@cearoelanee5945 I need to try the blender myself. I don't really use blender pencils much, they never really seem to do anything!
They work on the cheap Crayola's and they work a little on water soluble pencils as well. When I get home tonight, I will have to try them on the Hi forneys.
I have a 72 set of black barrel/black wood Hifourney pencils and I LOVE how creamy and soft they are. I wanted to get a bigger pack but they only have the black set in 72 colors, and I wasn't sure about the white barrels because as you discovered they're the same as the Kalours and I'm not sure if they're the same as the black versions I have. They are different from the Brutfuners I have but I don't have the black barrel ones, and the only Kalours I have are watercolor ones (which do feel similarly creamy, but idk if that's because they're watercolor pencils).
Now that you've confirmed what I thought I have better chances to decide on packs to buy at least, since some of the Hifourney sets (the 120 set) comes in a beautiful case and is really cheap (and discounted right now). My only issue is justifying the purchase when I already have a 180 set of Brutfuners when they're similar enough according to your tests XD (I think the answer is they aren't worth it for now, so thank you for saving my poor wallet!!)
I'm always tempted by new pencils too...even though I know most now are made by the same factory! I do love my 180 black barrelled Brutfuners but 12 of them are metallic (which I'm not fond of) so it's really just 168 colours.... just lol..😅
I've contacted the seller of Kalour at A-zon asking about the difference between their 180 set colored barrel with an elephant on the black tin vs. black barreled with a dear(?) on the red tin since in the description they are the same apart from the info about the core size ( 3.3 vs. 3.8mm respectively. The answer I was given was that the black barrels are more "professional" grade 😶😑
I wonder if they are the same and with the same numbers as the black Brutfuners now 🤔 I think I can buy 180 black Kalours cheaper than Brutfuners 'cause idk why their prices went up quite a lot
Ha! Professional grade! That's obviously why I like the black barrelled ones best, because I'm such a Professional 😆
I really love this video always chuckel . to me they look like all the other pencils from Amazon (to me ) I am planning to buy the 150 set of the Holbien pencils ....when I have saved enough. hahahah . my want Monster still wants Caaren D ACHE Luminace 100 set ......lovlely video . good info . Happy Swatching xxxxx
Haha Beth, you have expensive taste! 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK 🤣😂🥰I like Ligh Fast Pencils as learing to draw. Also they are loaded with Pigment hahahahhah 🥰
I just got this set of pencils and the colourless blender pencil has the Kalour branding on it.
@melissahill2093 Ha! Well that couldn't be more obvious then! Clearly made in the same factory! Thanks for the info! 🥰
Hello 😊 Could you review The Works pencils and WH Smith coloring pens? It would be great to see more reviews on British high street shops as I'm trying to avoid Amazon and online shopping. PS: I loved your video on The Range markers-I own them and it was wonderful to see them featured. ❤😊
Hi! I'm actually on planning on doing exactly that, using the Whsmith, Works and B&M pencils! Stay tuned! 🙂
Great video. Thank you. Brutfuner appear to be made in Shenzen. However it appears H and B, based in Shanghai make Arteza (and some Staetler) both of which are listed as ‘partners’ on the H and B website. H and B also make macaron pencils. I think H and B make Artxx, , Kalour and I suspect also Evazar - plus a few more, like your Hiforny. I’m not totally convinced they make Brutfuner, though your argument seems very convincing But I recently bought a pack off Amazon by Bajotien - and inside the pencils were clearly labelled ‘Brutfuner!’. I’ve now started to buy H and B own branded ones from Amazon, (which seem pretty reasonable) plus Brutfuner.
2-3 years ago, before H&B and Kalour were on the scene, the company that were producing the Brutfuner pencils told me they manufacturer both the Arteza and Castle Arts pencils. Since then lots more whitelabeled versions have popped up. Either way, all decent pencils. 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK that’s so interesting. Thank you so much for this reply. It confirms my thoughts, and yes, they are all great pencils - and good value - but how annoying to pay for a set of pencils labelled as made by B , in all good faith, only find you already have the set, albeit labelled as manufactured by C!
@@ArtJourneyUK by the way, who were the company who preceded H and B please?
@bethzolin6046 Yes that's so true! You end up with 10 packs of the same pencil (although some people will swear otherwise 😆)
I'll have to look up the name of the company, I contacted them with regard to whitelabelling pencils.
The barrel is very similar as the brutfuner pastel shades
It is! The pastels came after their basic original ones... and before Kalour so they're definitely in that middle ground!
So I've watched all your videos about colored pencils. If you had 100, I would have watched them all. No matter how long they are. 😂😄
I just want a set of colored pencils, that are inexpensive. Where I don't care whether I get a new set or not. I have Polys and Arrtx. As I really use them both a lot, buying a completely new set of the Arrtx every time a few pencils are used up, is stupid and, above all, too expensive in the long run for me. Especially at the price they have here. (70 Euro). I'm saving up for a 2nd high-quality set, and until then, I'll just order Brutfurner. The old round ones 😄 Thank you for all the videos!
@Melinda.H Very wise words Melinda. Pencil sets you can buy open stock does make more sense, that's the reason I like my Polys, single replacements are easy to get. 🥰
Wow! those Brut's do look much softer than any of the others. I am going on a no SPEND!! and you know why 🤯xx
Yep, they are soft. Hehe I know you are 🤣 🥰
Great review Thankyou ❤
i have these set they remind of my other sey h&b set but it also remind of kalour but the h&b are more pigmented then kalour set i also have thats my thought anyways great video thou
I've not tried H&B but here in the on Amazon there's a H&B set in a case that's identical to a Kalour set in a case. So... my guess is they are the same too! 🥰
Great video. very informative. I always thought there would be replica pencils because they look to similar. Now we got proof. thanks
Thank you 🥰
Anyone who is reviewing new pencils is my friend
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TFS! 😘
Get yourselves a 36 set of quality pencils & learn to layer, folks. Koh-i-Noor is quality at a decent price.
Too time consuming in all honesty!
Unfortunate brand name…
But at least 120 pencil sets are getting more affordable. There was time where the prices were easily double.
Indeed! I think anything under £20 for 120 pencils is very reasonable.
Well, at least the white labeling ensures all those gorgeous pencils are always available on A-zon. Under different brands, but the same pencils. 😂