I know this is a year old video, but you’ve no idea how handy this was for me today. I actually ordered the square ones for £24 thinking they were better than the round, so I’ve canceled the order and ordered the round ones instead for £17 😂😂 blimey, you’ve saved the day. 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK …I think they seem to have become more popular and the company have twigged on. We should all never talk about them again then the price might go down again 😂 have you got the macron pastel colours yet? I got them yesterday and wow! They’re so much like the expensive Holbein ones it’s unbelievable.
Each to his or her own opinion and you shouldn't worry about others not liking your findings or opinions. I, myself, have only the square Brutfuners and I do like them....I'm content to have this one only set and not their other round ones, but that's me. If someone is looking to get more bang for the buck as they say, then go with the round. At then end of the day, it's all to what someone likes and is affordable for them. I liked your video and comparisons - I think it's quite helpful for those looking for a more budget friendly pencil. Gives an insight on the various Brutfuners out there on the market.
Thanks Sonja! Yes, I agree. I really liked the first round Brutfuner I got and would have been more than happy to just stick with them, especially if I had known the square pencils were exactly the same!
Thank you for making this video! I bought the round 120 set with the handle on the box (after watching this video) and I got to test them out today and I was shocked at how nice they were 😮. Pigmented, soft and no broken pencils! a joy to use. I was always unsure about buying the round ones because of all the mixed reviews I’ve seen. Your video was all I needed to finally try out my first ever set of Bruts 😀! Thanks again 😊✏️
Great findings. See a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the company’s on Amazon who sell budget pencils are private labeled. They all get it from a main factory and then stamp their name on it, change the packaging and change the color of the barrels. But they all come from the same factory. That’s why some people say that some of their pencils look and feel the same. That’s why I don’t buy any art mediums that do not have open stock. Your wasting your money when you just purchase a bunch of pencils that you can’t replace. Your better of saving your money and get brands that have open stock. IMO.
I sharpen my square Brutfuners with a small Faber Castell double hole sharpener and have had no problems! They feel very comfortable to hold! I might consider getting the 520 set one of these years if they are the same quality!
Hurrah! Thank you. I was saying this last year and ‘was shot down in flames’ by other comparison sites (hmm, I wonder why??) I love my Brutfuner however I have brought 3 sets of square pencils. I got them for about £20 a set so no complaints. However, I’ve got an unique reason why when I have problems holding pencils due to Parkinson’s and find I can hold them more securely and not so much strain so price isn’t a consideration as my husband and sons would buy them I’m incredibly lucky.
Hi Laney! Did you get shot down in a Facebook group? I also got similar treatment when I commented on a Brutfuner video last year. Ooo yes, if the squares suit you better that's great!
Thank you for this. I own the "original" round Brutfuner pencils and always wondered if there were color differences with these new sets, now I have a better idea which new sets will add to my collection.
Back when they were new, I did a swatch and compared the 120 rounds and 120 squares and found them identical pencils. (same colors, different numbers.) I colored a page, 1/2 with each set, and you couldn't tell the difference. I said there wasn't a point in getting the squares. The rounds are just fine and cheaper. I did get a bit of flack from a few people, saying they weren't anything like each other. (I think they were thinking of the 180 set of squares, but I wasn't interested in yet another set of brutfuners to see). I agree with you, in effect.
Exactly Feath. The 120 rounds and 120 squares are the same. To me, the squares started to feel like The Kings New Clothes. If I had known they were the same, I had stuck with the rounds that I had bought first, I thought they were really good pencils and only bought the squares because everyone was saying how great they were, so assumed they must be even better than the rounds!
I love your “detective” videos. I only bought my brutfuner squares late last year, not knowing a great deal of their predecessors. Very interesting, I will definitely be keeping this in mind in the future if I’m looking for a back up set. Thanks for sharing Lily. Stay safe and Happy Colours, Sara 🐨💕
Not correct. It's a fake copy of part of a Johanna Basford book, it is not an official published JB book. Just like one of the others is a fake copy of part of a Daria Song colouring book.
That's good to know your findings Lily thought I was going off my head always had a feeling they were the same. Great stuff if you can save folks some dosh to spend on other goodies.😉 Happy colouring Xx
I was happy with the rounds when I bought them, but no-one else talked about them. Then the squares came out and everyone was “ohhhh” so I thought they must be even better... I would have stuck with my rounds if I had known. 😣
I got my first set of Brutfuners sold in the Southsun 160 package for $21 as a lightening deal. I also own several sets of the squares since I am happy with the brand and I like the look and how they hold better, and they were only $17. Needless to say they will last a lifetime!
Thank you so much for this video! I was searching around for these brutfuner pencils and found out that they had tin cans and wondering if they are just the same or what. This save my money on which brutfuner I'll buy. I'm guessing that's why the tin cans one has a higher price because of the packaging.
Thank you for the video, I was going to buy the rounds because I have the squares and thought they would be different colors. I love the squares because they don’t roll off my desk and I don’t drop them as much as I do round ones. I have had my eye on the 520 set, I have not bought them yet because I think, what on earth will I do with a 520 pencils lol. But maybe that’s the fun in it all
I WISH they were still as cheap as they used to be. The rounds are now 40 dollars in the US and the squares are 30. There was a sale recently where the squares were down to 25...but I guess they realized people were really liking their product and they bumped the price up.
Thankyou for this! I’ve just discovered the round 120 set at Amazon irresistible £13 and was looking at getting the square ones, now I don’t need too ❤❤❤
I know a few Black barrel pencils that are different than the Brutfuners. Castle Art buys their leads from the same factory as Star Joy did for the Originals, Creyart are from the same factory as Raam Refined and Norberg and Linden, Magicfly and Arteza are made from the same pigments, and Cool bank come from the same factory as Zenacolor. None of the pencils I mentioned are the same formuation so I think they are private labeled rather that white labeled
My round Brutfuners aren't like my square ones. My squares are more pigmented and a bit softer. My squares seem more like quality pencils while my rounds are more like a scholar version.
You know how those Chinese brands work... Maybe they've changed the cores of the rounds, so they're now identical. I bought mine a while ago. @@ArtJourneyUK
Thanks for the great comparison. There are so many white label pencils, it can get confusing. I have only the square Bruts and got them for what you paid for the rounds, then I got a gifted backup set. I like them fine, but don’t love the square shape. If I ever use them up, which isn’t likely as I have too many pencils, I’ll know I can get the round ones for a similar experience. No doubt this will be very helpful for people who are trying to sort out all the Bruts.
I loved the rounds when I got them, but no one was talking about them. Then the squares came out and everyone was raving about them... so I had to get them too. It was only when I swatched them I realised. Should have stuck with my rounds!
Excellent video! Finally someone tests and shows the truth of brutfuners. I have the 180 black barrels and i love them, i agree they look better finish pencil.
I was mixed up with the round and square when I first saw the square ones, when I first saw the squares I thought I got a ripoff of it,thank you so much for talking about this and I'm so glad I got the good stuff:D
omg I love this video, thank you so much for making and posting it. I got the squares and I love them, but when I need to replace them I will just go with that is cheapest :) And I just subbed as well.
I love your style of review. I'm new to pencils and the squares were my only set. I bought the 50 Macaron set from Brutfuner for the pastel shades. I've found that they are dryer feeling and scratchy sounding when coloring and not as smooth as the squares. Have you noticed this? Do the rounds lay down with the same oily smoothness as the squares or just the same colorwise? Again, thanks for the super video!
Thank you for creating this review, comparing all these different pencils. It's so hard to know if they're different or the same from Amazon, and as someone new to colouring, I'm still experimenting with different coloured pencils. Now I know how similar they are, I can just get one, not four!
Yes, that's exactly why I made the video. I loved the round ones when I bought them and then only bought the squares because everyone was raving about them... and then realised they were the same lol!
Thank you so much for this video. I love my brutfuner squares but didn't know that the others are great too. On amazon Germany the are all about the same price so...happy coloring and greetings from Belgium 🤗
Hi Greta! I love my Brutfuner round pencils and would have stuck with just them if I had known they were the same as the squares. I think a lot of people bought the squares as they were different and found them to be good... not knowing that the round were just the same. Happy Colouring to you too 🥰
I have an 80 set of the black barrels marketed as Shuttle Art. I really enjoy those pencils although I do find they wear down fairly quickly and need to be sharpened. I also just got my first set of Brutfuners, which was the Macaron set. They have such pretty colours, although I think the black barrel pencils are a bit softer.
Thanks for this inquiry 😉👌 I just received my 180 pencils (the sunflower box) and the macarons. These are really drier than the 180 ones. I just ordered the metallic box and the skin tones ones as I do like my 180! I’ll see 😉 Have a nice day!🌸🦄🌸
Wish I had watched this a month ago. Saw so much about how amazing the squares were. Would have gotten the cheaper rounds if more people were showing them the same.
I love my square pencils! I don’t have the black barrel ones. I do have the Castle Art 120 set. I’m not a fan. I’ve been thinking about the 520 set of Brutfuner. I wonder how that many pencils all together would feel like when un
Those 180 black Bruts look like Soucolor 180 which I love. The red tin of 180 Kalour, 180 Bruts, & 180 Soucolor are said to be the same along w a few other smaller set ones. Same look and names. Crazy crazy. Im getting a small set of CAs to see how they do.
I love my square Brutfuner’s and they fit perfectly in my Afmat pencil sharpener, yes I wish I had paid less but I know what to get when my square ones run out.
@@ArtJourneyUK The Afmat pencil sharpener I use is electronic, you plug into your outlet, it has a regulating dial for your pencil point, from blunt to really sharp. Afmat has many other types of sharpeners and I have tried most of them but I don’t like using batteries, just not as strong as electric. Best of luck with your search.
I don’t know if you gave your new pencils a quick sharpen or not but they put a coating on the tip to protect from breaks, I don’t know if this only counts towards expensive pencils only but I’m in the habit of giving all my pencils a quick sharpen.
I almost wish i hadnt watched this. Our initial stories are similar only i bought the 168 Brutfuners under the name Wanshui. I then ordered the second set for backup. Now i realize my backup set is different, the style of pencil looked the same so i didnt bother checking. Now I realize the numbering is different. In my old set the 41 is green and for reference the 43 is green like yours. The new set made number 41 a turquoise like color and there is no green 43. They both color the same but i think the numbering has changed. Guess who is going to do some mix and match and color referencing charts today, lol. Sigh.
I have the 120, squares, the 80 set you showed, (think it’s the pastel & neons set) and my brother bought me the 520 Brut’s for Christmas. The 520’s look the same as the rounds, same number style, but they also all have names. The only difference I’ve noticed is really about quality, my 80 Neons and pastel break terribly, they were very cheap, (think about £6,) but some wouldn’t sharpen and I’m left with very little pencil. I’ve had very few issues with the squares, or the 520’s (yet😉) I’d probably always buy the squares, just because I know they are in better packaging, and so more likely to arrive in better condition. I also have the brut macarons, they are super pencils for the money, with some great colours. Bruts generally are great value, at the prices they charge, you really can’t go wrong.👍🏻
so what about the Black Barrel Brutfuners? I have the 180 set and curious if you think they are the same as the color barrel and are they all oil based etc. do you have a preference of black barrel vs color barrel Brutfuners :) thank you love your reviews. Have you considered buying the Brutfuner 72 macarons?
None of the Brutfuners are oil based. They have the word "oily pencils" as a misnomer (or just a bad translation). In China any non-watercolour pencils containing wax or oil are labelled 'oily' which just means they contain wax or oils and are not watercolour pencils. With regard to the black barrel Brutfuners, I remember at the time of making this video that I was surprised how nice they were... easy laydown, soft and blendable. As much as I liked the first Brutfuners I bought (the 120 round), I found I was using the black barrels more. I was planning on making a follow-up video to this, comparing all the colours of pencils across the sets and I also got in contact with the manufacturer of the Brutfuner pencils and they sent me samples etc. However, I got so much backlash from people who love the squares and are insistent that they are not the same as the rounds... that I didn't end up making the video. Maybe I will this year? With regard to the 72 Macarons, I have them! They weren't available at the time of making this video so maybe that's the reason to do the follow-up video!
@@ArtJourneyUK thank you for responding, many do not respond on older videos :) Yes, please do more Brutfuner reviews! I am glad to have your opinion. I have been confused by all the videos on the square Brutfuners, but I do not see most of them comparing to the round Brutfuner. Sorry you received backlash. I think many of us want to hear Different Opinions :) I do feel the Black Barrel (these are only Brutfuner I have) color differently than budget waxed based pencils though ? I have other supposedly oil based like Marco Renoir and some others (can't remember all of them now) which I prefer, unless it is just a preconceived idea LOL. I only have the black barrel and like them, but found few reviews and those that did said they were inferior. I do like hard pencils LOL, I love crayola too. I do have Prismas and Polychromos and many more, but prefer the Polychromos. I saw some good reviews on the macarons comparing to Holbein etc, but would love your reaction. A few days ago I purchased The Castle Art Gold 120 and was only planning on this set, but the website had a good sale, plus I got a 30% off coupon from the roulette wheel 🤣 and you get free shipping over $75.00 so I added the 48 pasteltint and 48 metallics, all 3 sets in zipper Case for total of $76.97! On Amazon. just the 120 Gold set in Case is $79.99 plus 10% off coupon! So I was leaning towards the Brutfuner Macarons, but purchased the Castle Art anyway.
In another video I have seen a comparison among two types of round Brutfuner. One, called as studente grade, has only the numbers and a smaller core (abt 3), the other set , called flower box set, has a larger core (ABT 3,8), has a name and a number etched in the wood and not very visible. In the video it was told that the latter is better. Do you know something about? Hi from Genova
After having that virus, the smell of the black barrel is unbearable to me but the square doesn't have that smell. I loved the black barrel, so my question is do the colored round barrels have the chemical smell like the black barrels? I thought it might be the tin so I took them out and that didn't help so I think it may be the lacquer on the barrel.
Hi Melissa, I know what you mean about the black barrelled smell. Mine stayed smelling that way while they were stored in the tin. Once I put them in a case, the smell dissipated. With regards to the coloured round barrelled ones, I don’t remember any smell on them at all. But tomorrow, I’ll go open the new box of them I have and check 😊
I’ve got the lot…Been driving myself demented trying to sort and compare. I wanted to see if the 520 sets were the same colours from all the other sets. I had them all together sorting them…I gave up…The 80 set are the worst for breakage and although they are a mixture of neons and pastel they are different from the pastels in the 50 set and neons from the 520 set…I was driving everyone mad as it should have been easy to match…Imagine 900 pencils approx on my rug… I have bought a very big carousel that hold 700+ pencils…🤣🤣
You just saved me from buying the 80 pastels. I got the 50 set when they were new and I really like them. Are any of the other sets you got the same consistency? I tried the 120 squared recently, but they aren't as soft and smooth as the macaroon set I have.
Aha thanks for saying this, so many people say the squares are softer than all the rest and I don't believe they are. The older pencils (the first Brutfuners that appeared) are a little firmer (similar to the Kalour pencils) and yes the pastel (Macarons) are lovely. I might have a to revisit all my Brutfuner Pencils and follow-up this video as the Macarons weren't available when I filmed this. Let's find the smoothest set!
@artjourneyuk, I love your review videos. The questions you ask, the tests that you do - I think the same way, so your reviews are helpingme a ton! I've been binge watching them in hopes of finding the answer to this question: What other budget pencils have the same soft creaminess as the Arteza and original macaroon, and also well pigmented like them? In one of your videos I think I heard you say Arrtx is with Arteza in softness. I might try them.
lol love your discovery videos they are always so much fun....I mean you cant have my brutfuner squares and I am on my way round to give yours a home that will understand and cherish them properly...but as always hun loved your thorough and fun video
I bought the round ones a few years ago purely because they had color names on them. 😅 Also, they looked the same as the square ones to me at the time.
Appreciate this video! I’ve had the squares in my shopping list for some time now. Would you say they are comparable to the round pencils? I’m able to get the squares but not the round ones (amazon US). I’ve seen reviews were some people said the round pencils were a bit “scratchy” compared to the square pencils. Thanks for any feedback you can provide. :)
Hi Mari! Yes, definitely. The squares and the round are the same. I bought the rounds first and loved them and then only bought the squares because everyone was raving over them... before I realised they were the same! Enjoy!
Love this. Have you watched Lori Green’s channel? She was sent hundreds of oil cores from China so she could pick out 120 colors for the new Star Joy Gold set. The factory adds a wood casing of varying shapes, different paint schemes for the barrel but in the end inside it’s the same core. I wonder if there are a limited number of pre made oil cores available for purchase in China from an unknown manufacturer in 800 or so colors. Legacy companies make pencils from scratch from the core outward but the cheap Chinese pencils are assembled. This makes them faster to produce and much cheaper. I bet the cores in the Brutfuner are the same as in the Star Joy Gold (but of course this is just a guess). My favorite pencils are the soft wax from Black Widow. They appear to be unique. Wonder where he gets his cores? Problem is the Chinese owners don’t speak English so they can’t explain anything. I don’t think they even know what’s in the pencil cores.
Excellent video. ❤ I bought black ones am really tempted to buy the other round ones that are cheaper, was wondering if I'll end liking the cheaper ones. I conclude the only difference is got a pouch to fit them, I guess that was the added price. I really like them. Still will buy the others. 😅 Also bought prismacolor premier locally the difference is very mild to me.
@ArtJourneyUK pleasure, I'm going to have lots of fun listening to you whilst I color 😁 I only started about a month and a half ago. Do you perhaps have pencil numbers for your Hannah Lynn darling skin tones? My first Hannah arrived 2 days ago, the Steampunk one. I want to start my first page tonight/tomorrow 😁😁🌸
Thank you. Oh my I fell for the hype after watching so many videos saying that the squares were so much better quality than the round etc. Have you tried the deli pencils?
I have the Deli and Star Joy Gold and they are two different pencil cores. When you tap on the cores the vibrations through the two brands are different. Prefer the quality of the Deli cores but like the SJGold colors more. The only other sets I have are wax with all 180 of the Black Widow- my favorites also made in China. Take a look at all the cores Lori Green has left from the work she did on Star Joy Gold. Apparently you can order cores of differing types, quality, diameter and color and choose how you want to “clothe” those cores with custom color schemes, shapes and sizes of the wood barrel, and types of wood. How many different parameters of a pencil can you change in the Chinese market? We saw all the choices Lori was given to chose from. She put it up to a vote in her YT group. The result was a unique pencil. Arnold in Australia picked other attributes and came up with the Black Widows. If you had the investment money, you could pick and choose your own features and sell your own unique pencils. Look at all the types of pencils manufactured in China today! A few new brands even have bar codes on the barrel that infer they will be sold open stock (eg. Arrtex). They also infer a degree of lightfastness. Wish I knew what types of cores were available particularly of the oil pencils.
The 72 Brutfuner round were the second pencils I bought way back in 2020 and I love them, they are quite “popular” in Mexico, then the squares hit the US market and I jumped hoops and loops to get them. I have been using them lately, and unfortunately not loving them as I thought I would. Loving these videos! Just like with the alcohol markers that you had me bending their tips, I’ll be definitely comparing the numbers that match on my Brutfuners!
Hi Yasmin! The 120 round Brutfuner were the first biggish set I bought in 2020 and I really liked them but no one was talking about them. Then the squares came out and everyone said they were great so I had to get them. I would have stuck with my rounds if I had known! 😊😆
Many years ago, I purchased the Guang Hui coloured pencils on Amazon Canada. There were a set of 160 pencils. When I saw the Brutfuner pencils they looked exactly the same as my Guang Hui pencils. Pencils that are made in China most of the pencil brands are made from the same manufacturer. All you need to do is choose the colour of the cores and have your own name put on the barrel of the pencil. I hope that answers any questions about Chinese-made pencils. They are all the same pencil core but with a different name. These pencils are good for Johanne Basfords colouring books. I own all the professional pencils but did not perform as well as my Guang Hui pencils on cardstock colouring books. The pencil needs to be matched to the paper to achieve good artwork.
Yes, I've always said that most pencils from China are from the same factory. Although Lori (the youtuber that helped pick the Star Joy colours) said the Star Joy cores were *not* available in other pencils!
I got the Brutfuner Macaron set because I wanted to just get a small set to try out the brand, thinking those would be the same, or close enough, to all the rest of the Brutfuner pencils. I wonder if anyone else might have the Macarons as well as the bigger sets of Brutfuner, do they seem really similar?
Good question and great answer by Brenda. The Macarons so seem a little softer, but there isn't much in it! ( Sorry for the late response, the youtube notifications of comments don't always notify me!)
Me too lol! I was really happy with my rounds... even though no-one ever mentioned them so when the squares came out and everyone raved about them I assumed they'd be even better... little did I know they were the same!
I feel this brand really did themselves a disservice when they splintered up their products in this way. I'm looking to buy some pencils and while the Brufuners are a good fit in theory, the confusion on which sets are which and if they're different or if I should search for a different name is highly confusing. At this point I'm about ready to just invest in Prismacolor and leave it be.
@@lauras4472 For my purposes they actually are. I get that they're different substances, but to me, they're colored pencils. They blend the same. They react the same to the (basic) paper I'm always coloring on. Pretty much the same outcome, even in the input is different. (Also, I went with the brutfurner. They're good!)
I agree Octo448. They didn't do themselves any favours with all the different pencil types. Also @lauras4472 Brutfuners pencils are not oil based, they are a mix of wax and oil. The term "oily" used on the packaging is a translation misnomer; it just refers to the pencils being Non-Watercolour pencils.
HI Lily I love my 180 BRUTFUNER pencils I got mine a few years ago now but I love the COLOURS in the set they may be mixed up a bit but however when I got mine of amazon UK for £26 pounds so I thought yes I will buy them and try them out so I did and I thought they were really good so I've been using them for a while and I still love them even now I want to keep using them and loving them I like my 180 BRUTFUNER pencils and all the COLOURS that I got in the tin they are just brilliant if you ask me LIZZIE BARRY from the isle of man 😄🤩😇
Try Magicfly and Norberg & Linden, both blend etc. Beautifully, both are numbered and color name on barrel, as well as the pencils are dipped in the color ! Very nice friendly low budget pencils that look and feel costly! I have about 30 kinds of pencils, I love comparing them.
So I like this video, I just purchased a kalour 72 set and the brutfuner square , and guess what the Kalour pencils are not Kalour , no branding , bag is saying Kalour but different shades and color names , pencils all different.( came from Temu) At least these all seems somewhat the same, I hope my Brutfuner ones will be as the should be. This is a very interesting and informative video
Oh that's so interesting, so they couldn't even be bothered to print Kalour on them! I bet them same pencils are in 10 different boxes with 10 different names! Enjoy playing with your pencils! 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK To be fair I do not even think it is the Kalour ones, the pencil names of colors are wrong, the shades aren't even in the 72 case , its all wrong xD not just no printing. Its like they stuck a different brand in there all together I checked and checked. No idea to which brand they do belong, since there is no branding on there at all...
@TM-im6wk I use slightly better paper than regular photocopy paper, it's 120gsm, smooth paper. I do all my pencil swatching on the same paper so it's a level playing field when it comes to comparing.
I don't know what the big hoopla is with this Brutfuner pencils because at least here in the US you can find many different inexpensive set of pencils of very similar quality. I only tried the square ones, because everyone said they are softer than the round ones and for my hand I like the softer ones. Also they said it's more comfortable to hold. Well, yes they are more comfortable and nice and smooth and soft, but terribly crumbly. No matter how many times i tried and I don't push the pencils hard, they were just terribly crumbly. So I gave them away. I don't know how the round ones are because I never tried them, and I don't mean the black ones, the coloredybarrel ones, but still up to this day in other reviews they say they have a much harder core than the square ones. You are the first one who says they are the same. So I don't know which one is which, I just know there was so much talk about them, good and bad. I was not interested anymore and especially when they came out with 520 that just sounded ridiculous. I personally go for quality not quantity. Also I agree in these budget pencils different brands could actually be the same, not just colors but numbers too. They are made in the same factory then they sell them under different names. Not right.
That actually makes sense. I don't have the black-barrelled Brutfuners, but I do have the 174 black-barrelled Shuttle Arts, which I believe are the same pencils, and they're soft, smooth pencils that feel softer than the color-barrelled Brutfuners that I have. If the color-barrelled Brutfuners are the same as the square Brutfuners, but the black-barrelled Brutfuners are softer, then Sarah Renae's review wouldn't be wrong either. I love them both, but think I prefer the firmer color-barrelled ones a little (just ever so slightly) more.
I bought the round ones off Amazon in the US. I don't know if it was a quality issues or shipping issue but the leads keep breaking on me. One I've had to sharpen about half way before it started not breaking. I'm wondering if the square ones have the same issue or if their thicker leads keep this from happening as bad.
Sounds like someone dropped the box! I have 4 sets of round ones and none of them suffer with breakages. You should return the pencils for a replacement!
Just now wanted to purchase a tin of Brutfuner 180 off Amazon. There were two different prices and when I look closer (the tins are the same black with elephants), one tin said Kalour and the other tin has no name on the outside. All other information on the tins are the same. Also the same are the pencils, barrels fully coloured the colour of the lead. NO black barrels. What is going on?
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I know this is a year old video, but you’ve no idea how handy this was for me today. I actually ordered the square ones for £24 thinking they were better than the round, so I’ve canceled the order and ordered the round ones instead for £17 😂😂 blimey, you’ve saved the day. 🥰
Oo nice! The squares have really gone up in price lately! I still enjoy my rounds 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK …I think they seem to have become more popular and the company have twigged on. We should all never talk about them again then the price might go down again 😂 have you got the macron pastel colours yet? I got them yesterday and wow! They’re so much like the expensive Holbein ones it’s unbelievable.
@@MoonSpinners I have and they're fab!
@@ArtJourneyUK ..we need pencil rehab 😂
@ArtJourneyUK now I know what's next on my list 😁😁
Each to his or her own opinion and you shouldn't worry about others not liking your findings or opinions. I, myself, have only the square Brutfuners and I do like them....I'm content to have this one only set and not their other round ones, but that's me. If someone is looking to get more bang for the buck as they say, then go with the round. At then end of the day, it's all to what someone likes and is affordable for them. I liked your video and comparisons - I think it's quite helpful for those looking for a more budget friendly pencil. Gives an insight on the various Brutfuners out there on the market.
Thanks Sonja! Yes, I agree. I really liked the first round Brutfuner I got and would have been more than happy to just stick with them, especially if I had known the square pencils were exactly the same!
That was big fun. You're an excellent and entertaining forensic art supply detective.
Thank you for making this video! I bought the round 120 set with the handle on the box (after watching this video) and I got to test them out today and I was shocked at how nice they were 😮. Pigmented, soft and no broken pencils! a joy to use. I was always unsure about buying the round ones because of all the mixed reviews I’ve seen. Your video was all I needed to finally try out my first ever set of Bruts 😀! Thanks again 😊✏️
Great findings. See a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the company’s on Amazon who sell budget pencils are private labeled. They all get it from a main factory and then stamp their name on it, change the packaging and change the color of the barrels. But they all come from the same factory. That’s why some people say that some of their pencils look and feel the same. That’s why I don’t buy any art mediums that do not have open stock. Your wasting your money when you just purchase a bunch of pencils that you can’t replace. Your better of saving your money and get brands that have open stock. IMO.
Agreed!
Good point!
Makes me wonder what's up with all those other reviewers who think the squares and rounds are different. Great video!
Kings New Clothes 😉☺️
I just bought the 160 set for $39 Canadian. I’m sure they don’t include the coloring books
I sharpen my square Brutfuners with a small Faber Castell double hole sharpener and have had no problems! They feel very comfortable to hold! I might consider getting the 520 set one of these years if they are the same quality!
I rotate my pencils when colouring, so the squares don't always feel comfortable to me. But I know some people love them! 🥰
Hurrah! Thank you. I was saying this last year and ‘was shot down in flames’ by other comparison sites (hmm, I wonder why??) I love my Brutfuner however I have brought 3 sets of square pencils. I got them for about £20 a set so no complaints. However, I’ve got an unique reason why when I have problems holding pencils due to Parkinson’s and find I can hold them more securely and not so much strain so price isn’t a consideration as my husband and sons would buy them I’m incredibly lucky.
Hi Laney! Did you get shot down in a Facebook group? I also got similar treatment when I commented on a Brutfuner video last year.
Ooo yes, if the squares suit you better that's great!
Thank you for this. I own the "original" round Brutfuner pencils and always wondered if there were color differences with these new sets, now I have a better idea which new sets will add to my collection.
I'm glad it was helpful!
Back when they were new, I did a swatch and compared the 120 rounds and 120 squares and found them identical pencils. (same colors, different numbers.) I colored a page, 1/2 with each set, and you couldn't tell the difference. I said there wasn't a point in getting the squares. The rounds are just fine and cheaper. I did get a bit of flack from a few people, saying they weren't anything like each other. (I think they were thinking of the 180 set of squares, but I wasn't interested in yet another set of brutfuners to see).
I agree with you, in effect.
Exactly Feath. The 120 rounds and 120 squares are the same. To me, the squares started to feel like The Kings New Clothes. If I had known they were the same, I had stuck with the rounds that I had bought first, I thought they were really good pencils and only bought the squares because everyone was saying how great they were, so assumed they must be even better than the rounds!
I love your “detective” videos. I only bought my brutfuner squares late last year, not knowing a great deal of their predecessors. Very interesting, I will definitely be keeping this in mind in the future if I’m looking for a back up set. Thanks for sharing Lily. Stay safe and Happy Colours, Sara 🐨💕
I have enough Brutfuner pencils to sink a ship 😂
@@ArtJourneyUK at least you can guarantee you can be entertained for the next 86 years with that many pencils 😂😂 That’s what I tell myself anyway 😂😂🐨💕
I love my 120 sq Bruts! I also have the 50 Macaron (pastel shades) and love those too.
Me too, but I also love the rounds, which are exactly the same 😊😅
OMG!! I laughed too hard at you "and this is a rip off of...." in describing the coloring books that were included in the first set. 😂
Haha they are though! 😅
I laughed too. She's very transparent in her video lol
But when she said the Johanna Basford is a rip off it actually is the Johanna Basford book lol so it's not really a cheap rip off.
Not correct. It's a fake copy of part of a Johanna Basford book, it is not an official published JB book. Just like one of the others is a fake copy of part of a Daria Song colouring book.
You make me feel so excited to buy this set. Thank you for your wonderful review❤ just subd
@@ohsfer11820 Thanks! Happy Colouring! ❤️
That's good to know your findings Lily thought I was going off my head always had a feeling they were the same. Great stuff if you can save folks some dosh to spend on other goodies.😉 Happy colouring Xx
I was happy with the rounds when I bought them, but no-one else talked about them. Then the squares came out and everyone was “ohhhh” so I thought they must be even better... I would have stuck with my rounds if I had known. 😣
I got my first set of Brutfuners sold in the Southsun 160 package for $21 as a lightening deal. I also own several sets of the squares since I am happy with the brand and I like the look and how they hold better, and they were only $17. Needless to say they will last a lifetime!
The squares certainly look nice all lined up! I am a fan of Brutfuners, such good pencils for the money.
Here in the States I saw several reviews which claimed that the square Brutfuners were stronger in chroma. I didn't believe it but you just proved it.
Thank you so much for this video! I was searching around for these brutfuner pencils and found out that they had tin cans and wondering if they are just the same or what. This save my money on which brutfuner I'll buy. I'm guessing that's why the tin cans one has a higher price because of the packaging.
Ooh, good to know. I might need a replacement set for my squares soon and I may well give the round ones a go. Thanks for the comparison!
Thanks Sonya 😊
Thank you for the video, I was going to buy the rounds because I have the squares and thought they would be different colors. I love the squares because they don’t roll off my desk and I don’t drop them as much as I do round ones. I have had my eye on the 520 set, I have not bought them yet because I think, what on earth will I do with a 520 pencils lol. But maybe that’s the fun in it all
I WISH they were still as cheap as they used to be. The rounds are now 40 dollars in the US and the squares are 30. There was a sale recently where the squares were down to 25...but I guess they realized people were really liking their product and they bumped the price up.
Yeah, I noticed the price has been creeping up recently. :|
Thankyou for this! I’ve just discovered the round 120 set at Amazon irresistible £13 and was looking at getting the square ones, now I don’t need too ❤❤❤
@@120_colours I love my original rounds!
I know a few Black barrel pencils that are different than the Brutfuners. Castle Art buys their leads from the same factory as Star Joy did for the Originals, Creyart are from the same factory as Raam Refined and Norberg and Linden, Magicfly and Arteza are made from the same pigments, and Cool bank come from the same factory as Zenacolor. None of the pencils I mentioned are the same formuation so I think they are private labeled rather that white labeled
Fab information! Thanks!
It's so interesting to learn all of this, kinda mind blowing really.... 👍🏻
Thank you so much for this in-depth and honest review. You swayed my decision and I purchased the 120 round pack, and I'm really happy with them.
They're my favourite pencils! 🥰
My round Brutfuners aren't like my square ones. My squares are more pigmented and a bit softer. My squares seem more like quality pencils while my rounds are more like a scholar version.
How interesting because mine are identical, even the colour numbers are the same.
You know how those Chinese brands work... Maybe they've changed the cores of the rounds, so they're now identical. I bought mine a while ago.
@@ArtJourneyUK
@@FairytaleSF haha true. I bought mine a while ago too, this video is 2 years old.
I love the pastel Brutfuner pencils but I didn't like the square ones. Great video as always, great job
I agree, the pastels are fab 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK Yay I love pastel colors in general, they are like extra pretty :)
A very honest review and that is what matters. Well done and good explanation thanks Lilly
Thanks Peter 😊
Thanks for the great comparison. There are so many white label pencils, it can get confusing. I have only the square Bruts and got them for what you paid for the rounds, then I got a gifted backup set. I like them fine, but don’t love the square shape. If I ever use them up, which isn’t likely as I have too many pencils, I’ll know I can get the round ones for a similar experience. No doubt this will be very helpful for people who are trying to sort out all the Bruts.
I loved the rounds when I got them, but no one was talking about them. Then the squares came out and everyone was raving about them... so I had to get them too. It was only when I swatched them I realised. Should have stuck with my rounds!
Excellent video! Finally someone tests and shows the truth of brutfuners. I have the 180 black barrels and i love them, i agree they look better finish pencil.
Thank you Mim 🥰
I was mixed up with the round and square when I first saw the square ones, when I first saw the squares I thought I got a ripoff of it,thank you so much for talking about this and I'm so glad I got the good stuff:D
omg I love this video, thank you so much for making and posting it. I got the squares and I love them, but when I need to replace them I will just go with that is cheapest :) And I just subbed as well.
I love your style of review. I'm new to pencils and the squares were my only set. I bought the 50 Macaron set from Brutfuner for the pastel shades. I've found that they are dryer feeling and scratchy sounding when coloring and not as smooth as the squares. Have you noticed this? Do the rounds lay down with the same oily smoothness as the squares or just the same colorwise?
Again, thanks for the super video!
I think the Macaron's are drier too. The round sets are identical to the squares. Soft & smooth, it's why I liked them so much.
I went ahead and bought these and enjoying them ! They are round and slimmer than I expected. Very nice creamy texture- win win!
Thank you for creating this review, comparing all these different pencils. It's so hard to know if they're different or the same from Amazon, and as someone new to colouring, I'm still experimenting with different coloured pencils. Now I know how similar they are, I can just get one, not four!
Yes, that's exactly why I made the video. I loved the round ones when I bought them and then only bought the squares because everyone was raving about them... and then realised they were the same lol!
@@ArtJourneyUK Thank you, you've helped me save some money. Ok, let's be honest, some money I can spend on other coloured pencils instead ;-)
@@CraftyColouristlmfaooo same (spending on other pencils)
Thank you so much for this video. I love my brutfuner squares but didn't know that the others are great too. On amazon Germany the are all about the same price so...happy coloring and greetings from Belgium 🤗
Hi Greta! I love my Brutfuner round pencils and would have stuck with just them if I had known they were the same as the squares. I think a lot of people bought the squares as they were different and found them to be good... not knowing that the round were just the same. Happy Colouring to you too 🥰
Thank you for another informative video Lily. I've just ordered the 80 set with £10 off for £9.99. Bargain!! 😊
Wow! That is a good deal! Enjoy! 🥰
I have an 80 set of the black barrels marketed as Shuttle Art. I really enjoy those pencils although I do find they wear down fairly quickly and need to be sharpened. I also just got my first set of Brutfuners, which was the Macaron set. They have such pretty colours, although I think the black barrel pencils are a bit softer.
The Black Barrel ones are my favourite. 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK Do the black barrel ones actually feel different in the laydown than the ones with the color barrels?
@@Julia94549 to me, they feel softer. They have a slightly thicker core, maybe that's why.
@@ArtJourneyUKThank you for the quick reply.
Thanks for this inquiry 😉👌 I just received my 180 pencils (the sunflower box) and the macarons. These are really drier than the 180 ones. I just ordered the metallic box and the skin tones ones as I do like my 180! I’ll see 😉 Have a nice day!🌸🦄🌸
Yes, the 180 set are definitely softer 🥰
Wish I had watched this a month ago. Saw so much about how amazing the squares were. Would have gotten the cheaper rounds if more people were showing them the same.
It’s like the kings new clothes! Happy Christmas! 🎄
I love my square pencils! I don’t have the black barrel ones. I do have the Castle Art 120 set. I’m not a fan. I’ve been thinking about the 520 set of Brutfuner. I wonder how that many pencils all together would feel like when un
They’re great pencils Mary Ellen! All the Brutfuners are! The Castle Art Pencils are my least favourite too.
520 is a lotta pencils 😆
Those 180 black Bruts look like Soucolor 180 which I love. The red tin of 180 Kalour, 180 Bruts, & 180 Soucolor are said to be the same along w a few other smaller set ones. Same look and names. Crazy crazy. Im getting a small set of CAs to see how they do.
Yes, that’s what I heard too. Although the black barrelled bruts are definitely better that the CAs.
@@ArtJourneyUK They are? Good to know!
I love my square Brutfuner’s and they fit perfectly in my Afmat pencil sharpener, yes I wish I had paid less but I know what to get when my square ones run out.
I need to try one of the Afmat sharpeners! All the Brut pencils are great IMO.
@@ArtJourneyUK I’m really happy to know that all the Brutfuner pencils are good!
@@ArtJourneyUK The Afmat pencil sharpener I use is electronic, you plug into your outlet, it has a regulating dial for your pencil point, from blunt to really sharp. Afmat has many other types of sharpeners and I have tried most of them but I don’t like using batteries, just not as strong as electric. Best of luck with your search.
I don’t know if you gave your new pencils a quick sharpen or not but they put a coating on the tip to protect from breaks, I don’t know if this only counts towards expensive pencils only but I’m in the habit of giving all my pencils a quick sharpen.
I almost wish i hadnt watched this. Our initial stories are similar only i bought the 168 Brutfuners under the name Wanshui. I then ordered the second set for backup. Now i realize my backup set is different, the style of pencil looked the same so i didnt bother checking. Now I realize the numbering is different. In my old set the 41 is green and for reference the 43 is green like yours. The new set made number 41 a turquoise like color and there is no green 43. They both color the same but i think the numbering has changed. Guess who is going to do some mix and match and color referencing charts today, lol. Sigh.
I have the 120, squares, the 80 set you showed, (think it’s the pastel & neons set) and my brother bought me the 520 Brut’s for Christmas. The 520’s look the same as the rounds, same number style, but they also all have names. The only difference I’ve noticed is really about quality, my 80 Neons and pastel break terribly, they were very cheap, (think about £6,) but some wouldn’t sharpen and I’m left with very little pencil. I’ve had very few issues with the squares, or the 520’s (yet😉) I’d probably always buy the squares, just because I know they are in better packaging, and so more likely to arrive in better condition. I also have the brut macarons, they are super pencils for the money, with some great colours. Bruts generally are great value, at the prices they charge, you really can’t go wrong.👍🏻
I agree Wendy, it seems all Brutfuner pencils are decent quality. I love my rounds!
Great video. I am relatively new to the world of adult colouring. Which Brutfuner are wax based?
All of them!
so what about the Black Barrel Brutfuners? I have the 180 set and curious if you think they are the same as the color barrel and are they all oil based etc. do you have a preference of black barrel vs color barrel Brutfuners :) thank you love your reviews. Have you considered buying the Brutfuner 72 macarons?
None of the Brutfuners are oil based. They have the word "oily pencils" as a misnomer (or just a bad translation). In China any non-watercolour pencils containing wax or oil are labelled 'oily' which just means they contain wax or oils and are not watercolour pencils.
With regard to the black barrel Brutfuners, I remember at the time of making this video that I was surprised how nice they were... easy laydown, soft and blendable. As much as I liked the first Brutfuners I bought (the 120 round), I found I was using the black barrels more.
I was planning on making a follow-up video to this, comparing all the colours of pencils across the sets and I also got in contact with the manufacturer of the Brutfuner pencils and they sent me samples etc. However, I got so much backlash from people who love the squares and are insistent that they are not the same as the rounds... that I didn't end up making the video. Maybe I will this year?
With regard to the 72 Macarons, I have them! They weren't available at the time of making this video so maybe that's the reason to do the follow-up video!
@@ArtJourneyUK thank you for responding, many do not respond on older videos :) Yes, please do more Brutfuner reviews! I am glad to have your opinion. I have been confused by all the videos on the square Brutfuners, but I do not see most of them comparing to the round Brutfuner. Sorry you received backlash. I think many of us want to hear Different Opinions :) I do feel the Black Barrel (these are only Brutfuner I have) color differently than budget waxed based pencils though ? I have other supposedly oil based like Marco Renoir and some others (can't remember all of them now) which I prefer, unless it is just a preconceived idea LOL. I only have the black barrel and like them, but found few reviews and those that did said they were inferior. I do like hard pencils LOL, I love crayola too. I do have Prismas and Polychromos and many more, but prefer the Polychromos. I saw some good reviews on the macarons comparing to Holbein etc, but would love your reaction. A few days ago I purchased The Castle Art Gold 120 and was only planning on this set, but the website had a good sale, plus I got a 30% off coupon from the roulette wheel 🤣 and you get free shipping over $75.00 so I added the 48 pasteltint and 48 metallics, all 3 sets in zipper Case for total of $76.97! On Amazon. just the 120 Gold set in Case is $79.99 plus 10% off coupon! So I was leaning towards the Brutfuner Macarons, but purchased the Castle Art anyway.
In another video I have seen a comparison among two types of round Brutfuner. One, called as studente grade, has only the numbers and a smaller core (abt 3), the other set , called flower box set, has a larger core (ABT 3,8), has a name and a number etched in the wood and not very visible. In the video it was told that the latter is better. Do you know something about? Hi from Genova
After having that virus, the smell of the black barrel is unbearable to me but the square doesn't have that smell. I loved the black barrel, so my question is do the colored round barrels have the chemical smell like the black barrels? I thought it might be the tin so I took them out and that didn't help so I think it may be the lacquer on the barrel.
Hi Melissa, I know what you mean about the black barrelled smell. Mine stayed smelling that way while they were stored in the tin. Once I put them in a case, the smell dissipated.
With regards to the coloured round barrelled ones, I don’t remember any smell on them at all. But tomorrow, I’ll go open the new box of them I have and check 😊
Lmfaooo “that virus”
I’ve got the lot…Been driving myself demented trying to sort and compare. I wanted to see if the 520 sets were the same colours from all the other sets. I had them all together sorting them…I gave up…The 80 set are the worst for breakage and although they are a mixture of neons and pastel they are different from the pastels in the 50 set and neons from the 520 set…I was driving everyone mad as it should have been easy to match…Imagine 900 pencils approx on my rug… I have bought a very big carousel that hold 700+ pencils…🤣🤣
OMG! 😂
You just saved me from buying the 80 pastels. I got the 50 set when they were new and I really like them.
Are any of the other sets you got the same consistency? I tried the 120 squared recently, but they aren't as soft and smooth as the macaroon set I have.
Aha thanks for saying this, so many people say the squares are softer than all the rest and I don't believe they are. The older pencils (the first Brutfuners that appeared) are a little firmer (similar to the Kalour pencils) and yes the pastel (Macarons) are lovely. I might have a to revisit all my Brutfuner Pencils and follow-up this video as the Macarons weren't available when I filmed this. Let's find the smoothest set!
@artjourneyuk, I love your review videos. The questions you ask, the tests that you do - I think the same way, so your reviews are helpingme a ton!
I've been binge watching them in hopes of finding the answer to this question: What other budget pencils have the same soft creaminess as the Arteza and original macaroon, and also well pigmented like them?
In one of your videos I think I heard you say Arrtx is with Arteza in softness. I might try them.
What a sight that must have been lol
lol love your discovery videos they are always so much fun....I mean you cant have my brutfuner squares and I am on my way round to give yours a home that will understand and cherish them properly...but as always hun loved your thorough and fun video
Hehe I'll give you my squares for your rounds 😆
I’m so glad I found you This video was full of information. Thank you.
I bought the round ones a few years ago purely because they had color names on them. 😅 Also, they looked the same as the square ones to me at the time.
Same! I thought the rounds were great
Appreciate this video! I’ve had the squares in my shopping list for some time now. Would you say they are comparable to the round pencils? I’m able to get the squares but not the round ones (amazon US). I’ve seen reviews were some people said the round pencils were a bit “scratchy” compared to the square pencils. Thanks for any feedback you can provide. :)
Hi Mari! Yes, definitely. The squares and the round are the same. I bought the rounds first and loved them and then only bought the squares because everyone was raving over them... before I realised they were the same! Enjoy!
@@ArtJourneyUK ahhh, amazing thanks again!
Thoroughly enjoyed your video, thanks for your demonstration.
Love this. Have you watched Lori Green’s channel? She was sent hundreds of oil cores from China so she could pick out 120 colors for the new Star Joy Gold set. The factory adds a wood casing of varying shapes, different paint schemes for the barrel but in the end inside it’s the same core. I wonder if there are a limited number of pre made oil cores available for purchase in China from an unknown manufacturer in 800 or so colors. Legacy companies make pencils from scratch from the core outward but the cheap Chinese pencils are assembled. This makes them faster to produce and much cheaper. I bet the cores in the Brutfuner are the same as in the Star Joy Gold (but of course this is just a guess).
My favorite pencils are the soft wax from Black Widow. They appear to be unique. Wonder where he gets his cores? Problem is the Chinese owners don’t speak English so they can’t explain anything. I don’t think they even know what’s in the pencil cores.
Yes, I totally agree. I must try the black widow pencils!
Thank you so much ma'am for the review, this is really help me to buy Brutfuner to save my money more.
This Video Is incredibly helpful thank you xxxx so much for being honest and clear. Thank you Happy Crafting
Thanks Beth! Happy Crafting to you too 🥰
This was great, thanks. I only have the squares. I don’t use them but like the look of them.
Oh yes, the squares look amazing in the box; so uniform 🥰
Excellent video. ❤
I bought black ones am really tempted to buy the other round ones that are cheaper, was wondering if I'll end liking the cheaper ones.
I conclude the only difference is got a pouch to fit them, I guess that was the added price. I really like them. Still will buy the others. 😅
Also bought prismacolor premier locally the difference is very mild to me.
Thank you Thank you Thank you ♥️, I'm about to reorder and had no idea which way to go. So very helpful ❤️❤️
Aww glad this was helpful Jennifer 🥰
Hooray don't forget that brutfuner has Macron pastel set too for 20 us dollars
Hi Jojo 👋🏻 I made this video before the macaron set was available.
Loved your video! And I love my 120 round set 😁😁 They look the same as your first set 🌸
Thank you! 🥰
@ArtJourneyUK pleasure, I'm going to have lots of fun listening to you whilst I color 😁 I only started about a month and a half ago. Do you perhaps have pencil numbers for your Hannah Lynn darling skin tones? My first Hannah arrived 2 days ago, the Steampunk one. I want to start my first page tonight/tomorrow 😁😁🌸
@LeandriLourens I don't I'm afraid, so far I've only used markers in my Hannah Lynn books. Welcome to adult colouring! It's a lovely hobby 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK thank you 😉🌸
I would get the 180, they look the best. Bigger core, capped ends, more colors, what is not to looks ?
Agreed. They feel better quality too
Thank you. Oh my I fell for the hype after watching so many videos saying that the squares were so much better quality than the round etc. Have you tried the deli pencils?
I have the Deli and Star Joy Gold and they are two different pencil cores. When you tap on the cores the vibrations through the two brands are different. Prefer the quality of the Deli cores but like the SJGold colors more. The only other sets I have are wax with all 180 of the Black Widow- my favorites also made in China.
Take a look at all the cores Lori Green has left from the work she did on Star Joy Gold. Apparently you can order cores of differing types, quality, diameter and color and choose how you want to “clothe” those cores with custom color schemes, shapes and sizes of the wood barrel, and types of wood. How many different parameters of a pencil can you change in the Chinese market? We saw all the choices Lori was given to chose from. She put it up to a vote in her YT group. The result was a unique pencil. Arnold in Australia picked other attributes and came up with the Black Widows.
If you had the investment money, you could pick and choose your own features and sell your own unique pencils. Look at all the types of pencils manufactured in China today! A few new brands even have bar codes on the barrel that infer they will be sold open stock (eg. Arrtex). They also infer a degree of lightfastness. Wish I knew what types of cores were available particularly of the oil pencils.
Hi Amanda, no I haven't tried the Deli pencils. I did look for them on Amazon UK, but they didn't seem to be available. Are they good?
Thanks for the info @Polar Bear Hero :)
Aww thank you!
The 72 Brutfuner round were the second pencils I bought way back in 2020 and I love them, they are quite “popular” in Mexico, then the squares hit the US market and I jumped hoops and loops to get them. I have been using them lately, and unfortunately not loving them as I thought I would.
Loving these videos! Just like with the alcohol markers that you had me bending their tips, I’ll be definitely comparing the numbers that match on my Brutfuners!
Hi Yasmin! The 120 round Brutfuner were the first biggish set I bought in 2020 and I really liked them but no one was talking about them. Then the squares came out and everyone said they were great so I had to get them. I would have stuck with my rounds if I had known! 😊😆
Just watched all this again. 😂 Brilliant video.
Many years ago, I purchased the Guang Hui coloured pencils on Amazon Canada. There were a set of 160 pencils. When I saw the Brutfuner pencils they looked exactly the same as my Guang Hui pencils. Pencils that are made in China most of the pencil brands are made from the same manufacturer. All you need to do is choose the colour of the cores and have your own name put on the barrel of the pencil. I hope that answers any questions about Chinese-made pencils. They are all the same pencil core but with a different name. These pencils are good for Johanne Basfords colouring books. I own all the professional pencils but did not perform as well as my Guang Hui pencils on cardstock colouring books. The pencil needs to be matched to the paper to achieve good artwork.
Yes, I've always said that most pencils from China are from the same factory. Although Lori (the youtuber that helped pick the Star Joy colours) said the Star Joy cores were *not* available in other pencils!
@@ArtJourneyUK Thank you for clarifying that information about the Starjoy coloured pencils. I have revised my comment.
I just loved this video. You have a great sense of humor! 😂 is you next step the 520 Brutfuner? 😂
Thanks! I’ve avoided the 520 beast so far….
@@ArtJourneyUK I’m a bit scared of that beast 😂
I got the Brutfuner Macaron set because I wanted to just get a small set to try out the brand, thinking those would be the same, or close enough, to all the rest of the Brutfuner pencils. I wonder if anyone else might have the Macarons as well as the bigger sets of Brutfuner, do they seem really similar?
I have the rounds and the macarons and find them very similar, with a slight preference to the macarons. They seem just a bit smoother.
Good question and great answer by Brenda. The Macarons so seem a little softer, but there isn't much in it! (
Sorry for the late response, the youtube notifications of comments don't always notify me!)
I find the whole Brutfuner thing so utterly confusing (easily achieved) that I decided not to bother at all, although they do look pretty :D
Me too lol! I was really happy with my rounds... even though no-one ever mentioned them so when the squares came out and everyone raved about them I assumed they'd be even better... little did I know they were the same!
I feel this brand really did themselves a disservice when they splintered up their products in this way. I'm looking to buy some pencils and while the Brufuners are a good fit in theory, the confusion on which sets are which and if they're different or if I should search for a different name is highly confusing. At this point I'm about ready to just invest in Prismacolor and leave it be.
Except Brutfuner are oil and Prismacolor are wax. Not the same☺️
@@lauras4472 For my purposes they actually are. I get that they're different substances, but to me, they're colored pencils. They blend the same. They react the same to the (basic) paper I'm always coloring on. Pretty much the same outcome, even in the input is different.
(Also, I went with the brutfurner. They're good!)
I agree Octo448. They didn't do themselves any favours with all the different pencil types.
Also @lauras4472 Brutfuners pencils are not oil based, they are a mix of wax and oil. The term "oily" used on the packaging is a translation misnomer; it just refers to the pencils being Non-Watercolour pencils.
@@ArtJourneyUKso neither like polycromos nor prismas
Correct. Prismas are all wax, Polys are all oil, Holbein are a mix of oil and wax (like these) but with likely more wax as they are a softer pencil
HI Lily I love my 180 BRUTFUNER pencils I got mine a few years ago now but I love the COLOURS in the set they may be mixed up a bit but however when I got mine of amazon UK for £26 pounds so I thought yes I will buy them and try them out so I did and I thought they were really good so I've been using them for a while and I still love them even now I want to keep using them and loving them I like my 180 BRUTFUNER pencils and all the COLOURS that I got in the tin they are just brilliant if you ask me LIZZIE BARRY from the isle of man 😄🤩😇
Hey Lizzie! I love the 180 Brutfuner Pencils too! I hope you are keeping well 😊
Are there different colours in each set or are the 80 colours in the 120 set are the 120 colours in the 180 and all the colours in the 520
All are in the 520 set.
Try Magicfly and Norberg & Linden, both blend etc. Beautifully, both are numbered and color name on barrel, as well as the pencils are dipped in the color ! Very nice friendly low budget pencils that look and feel costly! I have about 30 kinds of pencils, I love comparing them.
Ahh none of those brands are available here in the UK 🥰
I got those triangle arteza pencils and sharpening.them is a headache.
So I like this video, I just purchased a kalour 72 set and the brutfuner square , and guess what the Kalour pencils are not Kalour , no branding , bag is saying Kalour but different shades and color names , pencils all different.( came from Temu) At least these all seems somewhat the same, I hope my Brutfuner ones will be as the should be. This is a very interesting and informative video
Oh that's so interesting, so they couldn't even be bothered to print Kalour on them! I bet them same pencils are in 10 different boxes with 10 different names! Enjoy playing with your pencils! 🥰
@@ArtJourneyUK To be fair I do not even think it is the Kalour ones, the pencil names of colors are wrong, the shades aren't even in the 72 case , its all wrong xD not just no printing. Its like they stuck a different brand in there all together I checked and checked. No idea to which brand they do belong, since there is no branding on there at all...
Also im not finding the square barrel ones anywhere on Amazon or Temu. I wonder if theyvstopped making them.
@TM-im6wk www.temu.com/uk/72-120-premium-colored-pencils-for-adult-coloring-artist-soft-lead-cores-vibrant-colors-professional-oil-based-colored-pencils-drawing-pencils-art-pencils-with-poetry-and-lyrics-on-the-holder-g-601099530097604.html
This was very informative. Great video. Thank you
Thanks Maria!
very interesting video - thank you
Yeah...I wanted the squares just because they were fun and square lolol.
Yep, me too. If I had known they were the same as the round, I’d have stuck to the round I had 😆
I haven't got any Brutfuners yet. I'm thinking of going all-in on the 520 set...... decisions, decisions.
Oooo Mary 520 is a lotta pencils! I did debate it for a while, but I find 180 unwieldy so that’s probably as high as I’d go...
@@ArtJourneyUK Since my comment, I've noted some say they are quite hard, so probably not for me with hand issues. Ah well.
@@Mary_LadyofLight how interesting, I don’t find them hard at all. Not as smooshy as Prismacolors (which are like crayons with wood over them 😂)
Don’t hv any Brutfuner, heard good things abt them but don’t need more budget sets so must resist resist 😅
Hehe... life is short!
I am si invested in the Brutfuner mystery 😂
I was too and there was a part 2 to this video... but I got so much hate from people who love the squares that I never uploaded it 😆
I actually don’t like the squares. Some numbers are wrong and names just don’t make sense
Do you use regular photocopy paper for swatching or is that special paper?
@TM-im6wk I use slightly better paper than regular photocopy paper, it's 120gsm, smooth paper. I do all my pencil swatching on the same paper so it's a level playing field when it comes to comparing.
@@ArtJourneyUK oh I see...thank you for explaining
I don't know what the big hoopla is with this Brutfuner pencils because at least here in the US you can find many different inexpensive set of pencils of very similar quality. I only tried the square ones, because everyone said they are softer than the round ones and for my hand I like the softer ones. Also they said it's more comfortable to hold. Well, yes they are more comfortable and nice and smooth and soft, but terribly crumbly. No matter how many times i tried and I don't push the pencils hard, they were just terribly crumbly. So I gave them away. I don't know how the round ones are because I never tried them, and I don't mean the black ones, the coloredybarrel ones, but still up to this day in other reviews they say they have a much harder core than the square ones. You are the first one who says they are the same. So I don't know which one is which, I just know there was so much talk about them, good and bad. I was not interested anymore and especially when they came out with 520 that just sounded ridiculous. I personally go for quality not quantity. Also I agree in these budget pencils different brands could actually be the same, not just colors but numbers too. They are made in the same factory then they sell them under different names. Not right.
Very True Judith. I found the square & round the same, definitely all churned out the same factory.
Is there a difference between 180 black barrels and rounds?
The tin box is more expensive than the plastic one. I’m perfectly happy with my 72 set of square brutfuners. Got them for about $10
@darialvova6355 it is now, my tin was under £20 back when I bought them... and the squares were £24! Enjoy yours! 🥰
sarah renae clark did a video on the squares vs the black rounds, and she did notice/show a clear difference between them 🤔 I'm confused 😆
Well they're all made in the same factory, but you'll only know for certain if you try them both yourself
That actually makes sense. I don't have the black-barrelled Brutfuners, but I do have the 174 black-barrelled Shuttle Arts, which I believe are the same pencils, and they're soft, smooth pencils that feel softer than the color-barrelled Brutfuners that I have. If the color-barrelled Brutfuners are the same as the square Brutfuners, but the black-barrelled Brutfuners are softer, then Sarah Renae's review wouldn't be wrong either. I love them both, but think I prefer the firmer color-barrelled ones a little (just ever so slightly) more.
Is it weird that 43 is also my favorite color in my Brutfuner? It's really a nice green for leaves. I also have it sharpened too small now 😂
Yep, perfect for leaves. 43 is the reason I bought a second box in the first place... not look at me! 😅
thank you for the video
You're welcome
I bought the round ones off Amazon in the US. I don't know if it was a quality issues or shipping issue but the leads keep breaking on me. One I've had to sharpen about half way before it started not breaking. I'm wondering if the square ones have the same issue or if their thicker leads keep this from happening as bad.
Sounds like someone dropped the box! I have 4 sets of round ones and none of them suffer with breakages. You should return the pencils for a replacement!
Great video thank you!
Are the 120 set in the box with the houses on in the 180 set
I’ve not seen the 120 set with the houses on
Thank You For Doing This Video
may i ask there is another brutfunner oily 180 round set. is that set same as the brutfunner 120 rounds shown in the video?
Yes, I believe there is another 180 set that is the same as the 120 set, like these amzn.to/3W9T5bd
Hi, i need help. I ordered 120 square brutfuner but Litchitree arrived. I know its the same brand but are the pencils any diffirent?
Is it just the packaging that says Litchitree? I've got the same Brutfuner Pencils in a Brutfuner box and in a Litchitree box before.
Great review!!!😉😀👍
Thank you! 😊
I found the square Bruts hurt my hand to use. Maybe the rounds would be better haha. However, I have my lovely 180 Soucolors.
Hi Leslie! Yes, a few people have said that. I’ve heard the Soucolors are the same as the black barrelled Bruts, and I like those a lot!
@@ArtJourneyUK I bought a second set of Soucolors. Back up to out in our camper. Haha
@@lindam.6782 the squares are definitely prettier in the box!
Just now wanted to purchase a tin of Brutfuner 180 off Amazon. There were two different prices and when I look closer (the tins are the same black with elephants), one tin said Kalour and the other tin has no name on the outside. All other information on the tins are the same. Also the same are the pencils, barrels fully coloured the colour of the lead. NO black barrels. What is going on?
Same factory, different distributors. These are the ones I like:- amzn.to/3U476Wk Branded Laconile, but are in fact Brutfuner
You sound so much like my youth worker it’s crazy haha
...maybe I am 🤣
Seems there r several Castle Arts posing under other brands, I don't like them at all, but I heard the Gold Edition is better
It's more that the Castle Arts pencils are made by the same Chinese factories as the other brands 😉🤫