Grimes I belive his mental health was falling apart after the events of red dead 2. Plus that hit to the head during the robbery in saint denis when they crash the train in the town didnt help his mental state. I want to belive he had some sort of brain damage since his decisions are erratic and impulsive, wishful thinking. Trying to excuse his betray to Aurthur in a way 😔
Jack went from a cute toddler, to a nerdy 12 year old, to an average teenager, to a full on beast of a gunslinger. Although that isn't what Arthur or John wanted for him, he still looks cool.
I never realized how much John calmed down between RDR2 and RDR1. He’s way more level headed, polite, articulate, and calculating than he is as his younger self in RDR2.
When my mom was alive, she used to love watching me play Red Dead Redemption despite having no interest in gaming at all. So much so that when the sequel came out, she got it for me as soon as possible. When I had no desire to play the sequel because of the emphasis on story, she got angry. Now, I don’t think I can play the sequel because playing it without her watching wouldn’t feel right. I plan on revisiting this game to honor her memory. RIP mom, there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t think about you.
Same with me except it was my grandpa. He loved westerns and would watch my play this when I was a kid for hours. I’m grown now, he’s still alive but our relationship is none existent anymore after finding out a few family truths. Even though I no longer like him as a person, It was really fun to play and have him watching me. Adulthood really ruins your childhood man…
@@YaBoiDREX i hope you will get a long again. I have tough relationship with my parents too, but im grateful for what they done for me during my early years
Words are repeated very often by Dan Houser. He creates these motifs in his writing that was stronger in the first game than the second but still there. That man wrote 2 Great American Novels in my view. The script of RDR1 can be analyzed like a Western movie and it stands up and then some. It's more like a really good book.
@@GlennDavey I agree with you. I think the characters of red dead redemption are more interesting & compelling than the ones in red dead redemption 2, probably due to them being better written... in my opinion, anyway.
5:45 "You must be John Marston" "Sometimes" It was a throwaway line before, but now with the context or RDR2 it actually makes sense. Sometimes he's John Marston, sometimes he's Jim Milton. :D
"Run away with me and don't look back." - Mary Linton "When the time comes, you gotta run and don't look back." - Arthur Morgan "Keep riding and don't look back." - John Marston I wish things turned out better for all of these people :(
Yh but they need to limit it like two or three and not by name like quotes or things he did to help hell even say an old friend did it otherwise it would feel forced I never played it personally but my friend said it was a great game I’d like to experience it with better graphics
I dont know why but this still looks REALLY good in its own way. Nowhere near as realistic looking as RDR2 but the engine at the time with upscaling honestly makes it look great.
It's taken me 9 years to realize this.. but at 0:18 the girl in front of everyone leaving the boat is the same one Dutch shoots in the head later on in the game.
Red dead redemption 2 was more popular only cause gta5 made rockstar more popular and rdr1 was before gta5 so when rdr2 came out more people played, unlike me i played rdr1 7 years ago
I screeched when he told the professor he was gonna bring I'm out to Dutch and then he says just kiddin hahaa funniest shit ever and so naturally spoken too
Something I always loved about this game is how you could see the weather on the screen. Like literally, when it’s raining, there are drops on your immediate camera/tv screen to signify how rainy it is. Always loved that detail.
Comparing John from RD1 and John from RD2: RD1 John is quiet, prone to long silences and thoughtful sentences. He laughs more, jokes around with others, plays the part of a good citizen quite well. I was actually surprised how relaxed he seemed in the first ten minutes of the game. He knows when to pull his punches, and when to really put the heat on the iron. Of course, he’s still John, a particular kind of stupid. RD2 John is angry, impatient, full of protest and complaints. He’s kind of what you expect an outlaw to be like. He struggles to talk, to say what he’s thinking. Quite frankly, he’s immature, and was often the victim of “wrong place wrong time,” resulting in his sour outlook on life. I guess Dutch had him convinced the world was the problem, not him, and as the gang’s era drew to a close he struggled to find who he was outside of that. Towards the end of it, he still complained and was quick to anger, but I think ranch life and responsibility towards his family really helped him grow up. As far as character growth, as proven, I think Rockstar did a very fair job of that. Yes, the John from the prequel and the John from the sequel are vastly different. That’s what makes a good story, to me. A person that learns from his mistakes is a common trope, but a person that actually, emotionally, and visibly changes as a result of his experiences is quite the character. Watching this reminded me how much I loved John, playing RD2 made me forget, and I wish Arthur was at least hinted at once, just once, by John after he dies. I wish John from the sequel had the chance to say thank you, or come to peace with his death. I feel that’s more than owed.
Agreed hes vastily different from RDR2 Its like hes not even the same person he was in RDR2 actually. John gets to work off of Arthur in RDR2. As we see them both grow until Arthur sadly does not make it. Ironically Rockstar had Arthur in mind since the RDR1 I ain't joking here. But his role in the first game wasn't clear I dont think.
Is it though? I know Dutch was basically rewritten for RD2, and the gang as we now know it didn't exist when this game came out. So to me, the final confrontation with Dutch does NOT feel like the culmination of the events of RD2 (both Arthur's ending and the showdown with Micah). Aside from the "you can't fight gravity" line which was great but kinda shoehorned into RD2, there's really nothing. So my feelings didn't really change that much upon replaying this game after finishing the sequel.
1:13 John "Welp, theres the bank where I used my real name to take out a loan to buy my ranch, which is how these 2 gentlemen so easily found me". Outlaw is on the run using fake names while working as a farm hand, and then goes and uses his real name at a bank. BRO...
well john didnt want to because of that reason but Abigail wanted it so he did it for her probably knowing he could get fucked over for this so I blame Abigail even though shes bae
@@gosick442 Explain it then. From what I saw they were asking around town, and surely stopped by the bank or the lumber yard or any number of places John used his real name
@@brodhax6148 After the agents found Micah's body, they were questioning culprits about what happened. They never went to the bank because they assumed that John wasn't dumb to use his real name. They eventually found him at Beecher's Hope. If they did find put that John used his real name at the bank, then they wouldn't have waited 4 years to use him to track down the rest of the gang members.
Charnarz lmao, I like the idea of them not going the easy route because they assume John isn’t stupid enough to do the one thing he wasn’t supposed to do.
I just realized Dutches speech during the 3:15:50 scene is exactly the same one that he used when he and Arthur jumped off the cliff into the river to escape the Pinkertons!
@@rampagerichard If he wasn't sick his redemption. arc probably wouldn't have happened or at least most of it wouldn't have, but if it did, he would have stayed running with John at the end and not fight micah. But if it plays out like it did and Arthur and Micah fight I am fairly confident micah would be dead in 2 seconds lmao
The opening dialogue is pretty cringe though. Rest of the game is amazing! but that opening train ride dialogue was obviously written by a liberal activist desperate to shoehorn his "message" into the story. Sickening.
You’re right it’s hilarious asf! 😂 “Looks like it’s me and you John! You should’ve stayed at home! SON OF A BITCH! GOD DAMNIT!” 😂😂😂 without the shootout gameplay it sounds like he has Tourettes! 😂
I love how John goes to tip his hat out of habit at 14:39 and realises he doesnt have it on, which then leads to him asking for his stuff. Thats the type of animation that gives character, you dont see that nowadays.
Whenever Jack says "I'm sure your husband will be just fine." I like to imagine that Ross came to visit Abigail, she asked about John, and he said the exact same thing. Brings a small bit more poetic justice.
He faced death at the beginning going up to fort mercer alone to try protect his family from the agents. Got himself shot by bills man and was probably meant to be dead. Abigail came along and saved him. He sacrifices himself again at the end of his story but he knew he was greatly outgunned this time with even more ruthless men but he faced them all the same. Perhaps this is why John meets the strange man (death/grim reaper) he still had things to do. He was always a dead man. He survived fort mercer but met the same end after everything anyway. Was it Dutch Vander Lindt that said "you cant fight fate. You can't fight gravity, john"
@@lk8300 "when I am gone they will find another monster " Dutch knew john would die the agent will never let the Marston family away a dying man (Dutch) never lies
1:13:38 Irish drinks some whiskey - "It gives me the memory of a new born babe." John drinks some whiskey - "and it makes me violently angry." Lmaoo I died.
Mason Sizemore I disagree on the whole, but agree in moment to moment. He has better flashes here, but the vast majority of the story John is essentially just angry and threatening violence to everyone.
mdogg094 remember john at the braithwaite manor when his son was kidnapped? that’s his mood the entire game because his family is kidnapped- makes a lot more sense
When you put RDR1 and RDR2 together it creates one of the greatest stories ever told in my opinion. RDR1 is my top 3 all time and RDR2 is my number 1 all time favorite video game. The story telling is on par with some of the greatest films and tv shows ever the character development is on the same level breaking bad was and the acting is oscar worthy. RDR1 was way ahead of its time when it came out and RDR2 is arguably gaming's greatest achievement graphically and story wise. I played this game for my grandfather and he said it's like watching a deadwood cartoon.
@@BlackWolf-pk8tx No way, unfortunately I did not feel nearly the same way about The Last of Us as I did Red Dead Redemption 1 or 2. No doubt it's good, but Rockstar really, reaaaaaaally knocked it out of the park on this one. Uncharted couldn't even hold my attention. Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 will be remembered for a very long time as western classics of the Video Game industry.
3:41:22 I wonder what John was thinking about.. in that last minute, Abigail, Jack? Arthur, the Good old days... until he couldn’t hold on any longer. I’m upset now
I think I’m the only one who thinks it’s badass to play as Jack at the end of the whole series. Especially now after rdr 2 is out and after seeing him as a kid growing up in that whole mess and literally being the only surviving member of the gang besides Tilly, Mary-Beth, Pearson and reverend. Just how he waited 3 years after his mom died to go and get his revenge and avenge his father and realistically, also avenging the whole lot of all the gang members who died because of the righteousness of the Pinkertons.
Jack, as a narrative device, is perfectly fine. But there are two main issues I have with him: 1) John Marston becomes such an absolute icon throughout the game, it's hard to let him go. Seeing as we barely have any story missions with Jack, we do not really get to see what he is like, what he thinks, his humour, his demeanor, his outlook on life, etc... All we see is an angry, vengeful boy. While this may have been intentional (john wanted a better life for his son, but jack ended up just another gunslinger with a mean streak), it's a somewhat bitter pill to swallow after having played as John for 95% of the game. 2) Jack has no respect for his horse, and it makes me hate him.
Sometimes it's the smallest of details that really highlights how chacters feel. Marston has this small, subtle smile at 2:02:30 when Ricketts makes a joke over cards. It makes you feel that Marston really likes and respects the old gunslinger.
Yeah, Red Dead I and II especially do an amazing job of showing us our protagonist when he is really listening, or being influenced. As good as the dialogue delivery always is, the camera often cuts to the protagonist's live, developing reaction.
Bill was Bill. Loyal to Dutch and him only. In RDR2 he mentions he wants to start a gang, but remains loyal to Dutch. After Dutch goes nuts, Bill does what Bill does best, trying hard as fuck not to fuckup.
Wasn’t Bill gay or Bi? I’m pretty sure in his letter of termination from the Army that the reason was sexual deviancy, right? I’m kind of wondering if he was in love with Dutch lol.
Bruh. Bill was a racist and lazy asshole who was also dumb as shit. He treated Lenny, Javier and Charles so horrible cause they were not white. Hosea should’ve capped his ass
You can make John look fatter by feeding him a lot. You can check your result when you press the settings button (PS4, I don't know what is that button called on Xbox One) and then go to Player.
It's funny to me. I've been around since before the original GTA came out, so yeah, the improvement in graphics quality since back then is pretty drastic. At the same time, I look at RDR2, and still don't think that is even close to photorealistic. I'm not sure exactly what photorealistic is, beyond that I won't know it when I see it, which is sort of the point of photorealism.
Never played this game. I gotta say Rockstar did an amazing job with the dialogue and story. I'm watching this like a movie and having more fun than anything I've seen recently.
"We gotta stop meeting like this." They meet on a snowy mountain last time when they both wanted to kill Micah, now the Government got John to kill Dutch, just like Micah with the Government wanted to kill the whole gang.
It's a testament to Rockstars writing that they're able to take an unlikable, annoying hillbilly villain from the first game and turn him into a character you genuinely cared for in the prequel. I'll always feel sorry for Bill, I feel like he would've sided with Arthur had there been more support.
@@weplo1597 I would still argue John is the same in RDR2, just less experienced and not ready to be a father. He’s pretty much back to his old self by the end of RDR2.
@@weplo1597 he was conflicted, with his struggles regarding his family and the outlaw life, being on the run, being paranoid and especially how his father figure, the man that saved him, Dutch, was crumbling before his eyes.
Imagine in the first game it showed John walking with Charles and sending him on his way, playing the first one we’d never know who he was. But as we’d play the second one we’d see how important Charles was and how good of a friend he was.
Learning how John became John in RDR2 gave me a lot of closure I was never happy with losing John at the end of RDR and I tried my best to win that final barn show down
2:25:00 for some reason, I had put on a disguise with a sombrero before starting that mission. When the cutscene punching De Santa started, John was still wearing the sombrero and it was bobbing back and forth on his head. I completely lost it at that point.
I will admit one thing the second game doesn’t have compared to this was the cutscene ambience. It was quiet, hardly any music, and John and the other characters talked and spoke like they were in a 1960’s western film. The next game went for a more modern styled cutscenes because they wanted to focus a lot more on the story and characters, but I think this game was all about that aesthetic. Kinda like how The Lost and Damned felt like Sons of Anarchy or Franklin’s missions in GTA V felt like a hip hop drama
Wonders Nope. John specifically mentions that he had a daughter who died years after he left the gang. The existence of John’s daughter literally makes no sense now. Especially since Javier mentions John’s farm and his daughter as well. Two things that he shouldn’t know about. Plus, with how RDR2 is, it’s as if she never existed at all.
@@Deathpool_04 There was a time between the end of rdr2 and the epilogue where john and abigail are moving about and john is adapting to becoming a citizen. I think it's like 1907 or something, so the time between 1899 and 1907 is enough time to have a daughter, who at that age with very little stability could pass from a variety of sicknesses. A lot of children didn't survive back then from stuff they'd survive from these days. My own family i can track back to a photo we have of a mother with about 14 kids who then all passed besides 3 of them. It happened a lot, sadly.
rkhale02 I think you’re missing the point. RDR2 would still contradicts what John said about her. He said that he had a daughter who died years after he left the gang while Javier knows about her and the farm. Two things he shouldn’t know about at all. He wouldn’t know where John and his family are when they are in hiding and he’s was in Mexico. If Bill told Javier, how would he know that too? Especially when the daughter died anyway. I also doubt the Pinkterons would actually tell Bill or anybody about John’s dead daughter. If she died after RDR2 ended, there is no tombstone of her anywhere. In the epilogue, it seems like she wasn’t born yet since they act like she ever existed. One of the dialogues you could have with Uncle is where John says “I thought I already had a child to look after”, then Uncle says “you weren’t doing so well with him, so god gave you a second chance”, and John says “two children now”. It’s as if they never the second child yet.
I kinda hope R* decides to fix this. It's so weird for them to have another child and then barely mention her. In RDR1, it makes sense since she probably died young (a heartbreaking thing) and we didn't have a sequel-prequel. With RDR2 though, I assumed we would have more information on the daughter, especially at the epilogue where she would probably be a baby/toddler but we don't. Weird.
I really remember the day i got it and started playing and the first cutscene i was just like “wow” like i was amazed with how good the game looked. Till this day still a top 5 game of mine
The fact that John got off of a Steamboat in Blackwater clearly indicates that he was elsewhere. And seeing as Saint Denise is the only other place that had a Steamboat tells me that John had to of been in Saint Denise. Rdr 2 really opens a person's eyes to Rockstars plans. This proves that they already was already planning on making another addition to rdr and that their plan was, way before they released teasers, to go back in the past. Truly hope that they find a way to make another addition to the RDR series because this was, by far, the game series that put Rockstar on the map
I bet any money that was brought up in the studio. However, I could also see Rockstar throwing that idea out because they wouldn’t want anybody predicting what happens in the end
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I watched the whole thang from heaven, poor John
What version is this you know the xbox one x version is 4k 30fps
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RDR2 made RDR1 even better imo, especially the ending with Dutch, it makes so much more sense.
Grimes I belive his mental health was falling apart after the events of red dead 2.
Plus that hit to the head during the robbery in saint denis when they crash the train in the town didnt help his mental state.
I want to belive he had some sort of brain damage since his decisions are erratic and impulsive, wishful thinking.
Trying to excuse his betray to Aurthur in a way 😔
@@BeexDubb his excuse for also leaving john twice
Grimes yeap i buy first rdr2 now i wanma buy rdr1
I played RD1 for the first time in years after playing RD2 and was blown away by how much everyone has changed. Especially Dutch.
Rockstar games should remaster this game and they should mention Arthur
Jack went from a cute toddler, to a nerdy 12 year old, to an average teenager, to a full on beast of a gunslinger. Although that isn't what Arthur or John wanted for him, he still looks cool.
Did u watch it all
I wonder what Jack was doing during WW1 and 2.
@@H.K.5 I also thought that
Work you damn nag!
Hamza Khaliq
He’s too old to be serving in ww2. Maybe mafia? some interwar conflict?
Bill Williamson’s voice actor doesn’t get enough love, he killed this
"I-I Implores you"
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@@doughdeputy4449 pidemencucucu
It’s different now! Now IM IN CHARGE!
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I never realized how much John calmed down between RDR2 and RDR1. He’s way more level headed, polite, articulate, and calculating than he is as his younger self in RDR2.
Arthur's death sacrifice and passing of the torch humbled him
Yeah he grew up and matured
Remember how everybody loved John before RDR2 came out, because of this.
@@yourdeath7820 yes I did
@Haywood J he could’ve got himself killed just rushing in there by himself
I really need a remastered version of this game.
remake...
new engine
YOU DON'T NEED SHIT!!!
YES
As dlc for red dead
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it too early for a remake? Red dead redemption came out like 2010.
When my mom was alive, she used to love watching me play Red Dead Redemption despite having no interest in gaming at all. So much so that when the sequel came out, she got it for me as soon as possible. When I had no desire to play the sequel because of the emphasis on story, she got angry. Now, I don’t think I can play the sequel because playing it without her watching wouldn’t feel right. I plan on revisiting this game to honor her memory. RIP mom, there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t think about you.
Same with me except it was my grandpa. He loved westerns and would watch my play this when I was a kid for hours. I’m grown now, he’s still alive but our relationship is none existent anymore after finding out a few family truths. Even though I no longer like him as a person, It was really fun to play and have him watching me. Adulthood really ruins your childhood man…
You must play the sequel to honor her... I encourage you to do it my man✊
@@YaBoiDREX i hope you will get a long again. I have tough relationship with my parents too, but im grateful for what they done for me during my early years
You definitely need to play part 2! She'll be there watching
She’s always watching man, weather playing games or not, she’ll be proud of you playing your favorite games
Arthur: I insist
Dutch: You...insist?
John: I implore you
Bill: You implore...me?
We can see who they both take after
Lol I implores you bill
bill: you implores me?
Words are repeated very often by Dan Houser. He creates these motifs in his writing that was stronger in the first game than the second but still there. That man wrote 2 Great American Novels in my view. The script of RDR1 can be analyzed like a Western movie and it stands up and then some. It's more like a really good book.
@@GlennDavey I agree with you. I think the characters of red dead redemption are more interesting & compelling than the ones in red dead redemption 2, probably due to them being better written... in my opinion, anyway.
Jack: You killed my father
Edgar: You keep saying that
5:45
"You must be John Marston"
"Sometimes"
It was a throwaway line before, but now with the context or RDR2 it actually makes sense. Sometimes he's John Marston, sometimes he's Jim Milton. :D
Or Rip Van Winkle
or maybe even some days rip van winkle
@@briantran1468 damnit you said it before me
Or daddy
@@BunnyBlazin go to horny jail
2:35:10 Javier Escuella Scene
2:41:30 Bill Williamson Scene
3:15:15 Dutch Van Der Linde Scene
thank you
3:38:34 Uncle "one shot kid" scene
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"Run away with me and don't look back." - Mary Linton
"When the time comes, you gotta run and don't look back." - Arthur Morgan
"Keep riding and don't look back." - John Marston
I wish things turned out better for all of these people :(
Everyone crediting Arthur for that quote but everyone forgetting that Mary Linton said it first.
@@erikallen3804 very true
And everyone looked back
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You live by violence, you die by violence.
5:46 - 5:48:
"You must be John Marston"
"Sometimes..."
Haha, good one RDR2
Jake looks like hamish
Really they thought of everything. Even Jim Milton
@Android 2990 Version 2.0 that's my horses name in rdr2
Arthur said something really close to that in chapter 4
i dont get it, do i have to have played rdr2 to get it? Damn i feel dumb
Graphics still cool
Music still awesome
Characters still iconic
Story still epic
This game still perfect
Everything u said is accurate but the graphics are kinda shitty
@@yourmomiisdogwater4022 the game is over a decade old what do you expect
@@yourmomiisdogwater4022 these graphics are great
@@yourmomiisdogwater4022 Graphics are still good, it just has less polygons.
The cinematic cutscenes alone are better than a lot of the more recent Westerns even though this is not how the story is intended to be consumed.
I just need a remake of this game with a few Arthur mentions.
Yes
No
Yh but they need to limit it like two or three and not by name like quotes or things he did to help hell even say an old friend did it otherwise it would feel forced I never played it personally but my friend said it was a great game I’d like to experience it with better graphics
And Micah. If John never killed Micah, the Pinkertons would've betrayed him eventually while John would likely live out a normal life
Sucks that rockstar only cares about the money they could make instead of their customers
42:31 oh god... it was all planned from the start.
What do you mean? Your time posted takes you to the scene with west-dickens swindling and trying to sell his tonics
@@TheLeeBonner Because he mentions lumbago
dumb child
LuMbAgO
you know that west dickens isn't uncle...right?
I dont know why but this still looks REALLY good in its own way. Nowhere near as realistic looking as RDR2 but the engine at the time with upscaling honestly makes it look great.
I remember RD for PS2 an how good the graphics were for the time
@@merkcityboy834 it wasent on ps2 only the 360 and ps3
@@DeadX2 I think they're referring to Red Dead Revolver
@@DeadX2 there are three red dead games.
Pidemencucucu
Nothing will ever beat John’s dry humor
KJ Caramel I dunno, Arthur’s a funny son of a bitch...
It feels that John’s sense of humour’s more cynical and Arthur’s was less dry and more darker.
Arthur’s humour felt straight up blunt and darker Johns feels witty and sarcastic
But both were hilarious
what are you going to do? im going to hand you over to them and watch them tear you limb from limb!. haha im just kidding :P...fucking died
It's taken me 9 years to realize this.. but at 0:18 the girl in front of everyone leaving the boat is the same one Dutch shoots in the head later on in the game.
Andrew miss grimshaw?
But she's dead
Also Bonnie is in the train at the start
Andrew no.. red dead 2 is before this so how would it make sense if she’s already dead
Sause He’s talking about the one he shoots in the bank in Blackwater about 3 hours in.
When dutch said "our time has passed john" he finally accepted what arthur was telling him years ago 😢
@@john-e5d took Dutch dam long enough should of accepted it on day 1
@joescaletta9665 Yeah, he should have
Red Dead Redemption II made Red Dead Redemption even better, Rockstar had a goddam plan! Just like Dutch supposedly did
I said this before. But I absolutely agree!
My G. a good nigga from Grove street
We just have to have a little faith
Red dead redemption 2 was more popular only cause gta5 made rockstar more popular and rdr1 was before gta5 so when rdr2 came out more people played, unlike me i played rdr1 7 years ago
@@MJ-iu1yo What's your point? What are you even saying? You played RDR2 7 years ago?? How?
''People don't forget. Nothing gets forgiven.'' a great line
John knew about cancel culture 100 years before it existed
He foresaw Twitter/Twatter...
rdr1 and 2 has some of the best written dialogue in gaming.
I screeched when he told the professor he was gonna bring I'm out to Dutch and then he says just kiddin hahaa funniest shit ever and so naturally spoken too
Something I always loved about this game is how you could see the weather on the screen. Like literally, when it’s raining, there are drops on your immediate camera/tv screen to signify how rainy it is. Always loved that detail.
Same in red dead 2 but more so when you the camera up
Comparing John from RD1 and John from RD2:
RD1 John is quiet, prone to long silences and thoughtful sentences. He laughs more, jokes around with others, plays the part of a good citizen quite well. I was actually surprised how relaxed he seemed in the first ten minutes of the game. He knows when to pull his punches, and when to really put the heat on the iron. Of course, he’s still John, a particular kind of stupid.
RD2 John is angry, impatient, full of protest and complaints. He’s kind of what you expect an outlaw to be like. He struggles to talk, to say what he’s thinking. Quite frankly, he’s immature, and was often the victim of “wrong place wrong time,” resulting in his sour outlook on life. I guess Dutch had him convinced the world was the problem, not him, and as the gang’s era drew to a close he struggled to find who he was outside of that. Towards the end of it, he still complained and was quick to anger, but I think ranch life and responsibility towards his family really helped him grow up.
As far as character growth, as proven, I think Rockstar did a very fair job of that. Yes, the John from the prequel and the John from the sequel are vastly different. That’s what makes a good story, to me. A person that learns from his mistakes is a common trope, but a person that actually, emotionally, and visibly changes as a result of his experiences is quite the character.
Watching this reminded me how much I loved John, playing RD2 made me forget, and I wish Arthur was at least hinted at once, just once, by John after he dies. I wish John from the sequel had the chance to say thank you, or come to peace with his death. I feel that’s more than owed.
RDR2: A naïve, over-confident outlaw.
RDR2 Epilogue: A mature family man on the run.
RDR1: A smart, careful-minded gunslinger.
Agreed hes vastily different from RDR2 Its like hes not even the same person he was in RDR2 actually. John gets to work off of Arthur in RDR2. As we see them both grow until Arthur sadly does not make it. Ironically Rockstar had Arthur in mind since the RDR1 I ain't joking here. But his role in the first game wasn't clear I dont think.
I think he acted differently in rdr2 because he was younger and less experienced
very beautifully written
He helps the army kill countless civilians in rdr1
The final confrontation with Dutch is so much more powerful after RDR2.
The feeling you're time has indeed pass & have no place in the world makes it real
Is it though? I know Dutch was basically rewritten for RD2, and the gang as we now know it didn't exist when this game came out. So to me, the final confrontation with Dutch does NOT feel like the culmination of the events of RD2 (both Arthur's ending and the showdown with Micah). Aside from the "you can't fight gravity" line which was great but kinda shoehorned into RD2, there's really nothing. So my feelings didn't really change that much upon replaying this game after finishing the sequel.
“I’ve got a plan, John” this line hits me so much harder, when I first played rdr2 and he said this I started freaking
Jack meets Edgar by a river and kills him by a river, how ironic
I didn't know respiration existed in the 20th century, thank you good sir
Enjoy fishing while you still can kid?
If I remember correctly from 15 years ago, the 1st scene from red dead revolver was the player as a kid practicing shooting by a river.
@@rambo-cambo3581 I think he knows more than you
@@Mrboumboum1 I vent improperly sometimes. You're spot on, deleted
I remember thinking, "cgi will never get better than this in video games" back in 2010. Then RDR2 came out and I was blown away.
RIP
@@69Solo Bro it's already 2 years
Yeah,can't wait to see graphicly better games than Rdr2
Pidemencucucu
@@69Solo pidemencucucu
The development from John arguing that Jack isn't even his child in the first portion of RDR2 to that moment at 3:34:43 is beautiful. 👏
They knew one bullet could not kill uncle so they laced the bullet with lumbago
its the *L U M B A G O* John
1:13 John "Welp, theres the bank where I used my real name to take out a loan to buy my ranch, which is how these 2 gentlemen so easily found me".
Outlaw is on the run using fake names while working as a farm hand, and then goes and uses his real name at a bank. BRO...
well john didnt want to because of that reason but Abigail wanted it so he did it for her probably knowing he could get fucked over for this so I blame Abigail even though shes bae
They actually found him a different way. If you've paid attention at the credit at the end of rdr2, you'll start to understand more.
@@gosick442 Explain it then. From what I saw they were asking around town, and surely stopped by the bank or the lumber yard or any number of places John used his real name
@@brodhax6148 After the agents found Micah's body, they were questioning culprits about what happened. They never went to the bank because they assumed that John wasn't dumb to use his real name. They eventually found him at Beecher's Hope. If they did find put that John used his real name at the bank, then they wouldn't have waited 4 years to use him to track down the rest of the gang members.
Charnarz lmao, I like the idea of them not going the easy route because they assume John isn’t stupid enough to do the one thing he wasn’t supposed to do.
This game is a masterpiece. The only game I've ever taken the time to 100%. Lotta long nights. Lotta great memories
Witcher 3 and red dead (1&2) are my favorite games to this day.
I just realized Dutches speech during the 3:15:50 scene is exactly the same one that he used when he and Arthur jumped off the cliff into the river to escape the Pinkertons!
was actually the army but ye
Indeed
Army
Maybe he thought there was a river below
3:15:37 its more like right here
Bill: I impore you to go back and bring someone little more impressive
John: *rides back to fort Mercer with Ghost Arthur*
Bill: *.....oh..shit*
One is standing and the other is in a coffin
@@raykelly76 lol
Exactly
@@arthurmorgan9485 Bill and Micah is scared of you and if you wasn't sick Micah woulda had 2 black eyes and
@@rampagerichard If he wasn't sick his redemption. arc probably wouldn't have happened or at least most of it wouldn't have, but if it did, he would have stayed running with John at the end and not fight micah. But if it plays out like it did and Arthur and Micah fight I am fairly confident micah would be dead in 2 seconds lmao
The opening dialogue in this game is a raw philosophical gold mine. It’s genius. Beautiful. Brilliant. And undeniably sad.
Pidemencucucu
The opening dialogue is pretty cringe though. Rest of the game is amazing!
but that opening train ride dialogue was obviously written by a liberal activist desperate to shoehorn his "message" into the story. Sickening.
It is about as heavy handed as it gets lmao
@@TheStuYoLMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LMAO LMAO LMAO, HARHARHARHAR!!!!!!
Can you elaborate
The missing shootouts make some of the cutscenes hilarious. Like how Dutch goes up to the Gatling gun and it immediately catches the base on fire.
Im so glad someone said something
Or how Javier manages to escape John until the scene cuts to John already capturing him
You’re right it’s hilarious asf! 😂
“Looks like it’s me and you John! You should’ve stayed at home! SON OF A BITCH! GOD DAMNIT!” 😂😂😂 without the shootout gameplay it sounds like he has Tourettes! 😂
Thats not a gatling gun its a maxim gun.
@@Jakethesnake2007🤓
03:40:05 "You keep riding and don't look back!"
ognumnz - Arthur Morgan
holy shit!
He learnt that from me
@@arthurmorgan9485 Has Dutch got his money yet? Or is there another plan that just needs faith?
Mr.Morgan! You’re alive, it’s been so long!
I love how John goes to tip his hat out of habit at 14:39 and realises he doesnt have it on, which then leads to him asking for his stuff. Thats the type of animation that gives character, you dont see that nowadays.
Does anyone else wonder what Arthur would look like in the RDR1 style?
Well, i wonder too but seeing how john and bill looked in rdr1 i would expect authur to look awesome or really stylized in comparison to rdr2.
Our boah would look good regardless
Decaying body or bones.
He'd be a sick looking skellington
He was dead how
Uncle would have survived if it wasn't for Lumbago :'(
Or you know
Not being shot in the chest
@@dragonsbreath389 No it was the Lumbago.
@@Dr.AutismGod ok it was both
No no it was a gun shot to the chest
@@loganwelch3527 nope
Whenever Jack says "I'm sure your husband will be just fine." I like to imagine that Ross came to visit Abigail, she asked about John, and he said the exact same thing. Brings a small bit more poetic justice.
I hated how John had to die , even though it’s just a video game that took balls to face your death like that
What else is there to do
@@Mannnnnnnn
There were actually a lot of things
But they'd probably find him later anyway
He faced death at the beginning going up to fort mercer alone to try protect his family from the agents. Got himself shot by bills man and was probably meant to be dead. Abigail came along and saved him.
He sacrifices himself again at the end of his story but he knew he was greatly outgunned this time with even more ruthless men but he faced them all the same.
Perhaps this is why John meets the strange man (death/grim reaper) he still had things to do. He was always a dead man. He survived fort mercer but met the same end after everything anyway. Was it Dutch Vander Lindt that said "you cant fight fate. You can't fight gravity, john"
@@lk8300 "when I am gone they will find another monster " Dutch knew john would die the agent will never let the Marston family away a dying man (Dutch) never lies
@@lk8300 bonny saved him ya plonker
Bonnie MacFarlane was always tryna have John clap them cheeks
Too bad johns one loyal bastard
@@dannybrooks1847 hes too old for her anyways
@@theamazingangstyteen-man3535 The age difference isn't too bad considering they are both adults.
The Amazing Bomb Squad Man he’s like 38 in rdr and must be 28 in rdr2
@@suda_lifts He's 26 in RDR 2 and 34 at the end of RDR 2.
It never ceases to amaze me how polished the writing and dialogues are with Rockstar games.
1:13:38
Irish drinks some whiskey - "It gives me the memory of a new born babe."
John drinks some whiskey - "and it makes me violently angry."
Lmaoo I died.
one of the many instances where the writing for the dialogue is superior to the sequel
I love John lol
@@masonsizemore522 Don't you mean the prequel?
Red Floyd ya know what i mean
Lol
John's joke at 3:06:46 always kills me LMAO
he was such a more human and sympathetic character in this one
Mason Sizemore I disagree on the whole, but agree in moment to moment. He has better flashes here, but the vast majority of the story John is essentially just angry and threatening violence to everyone.
mdogg094 remember john at the braithwaite manor when his son was kidnapped? that’s his mood the entire game because his family is kidnapped- makes a lot more sense
@@stxrmbreak yep
"just kiddin"
26:34 if only John knew how relevant that statement would be in 2021 lol
Lmao
Transphobia funny lol
@@jasonfenton8250 shut up
@@jasonfenton8250 nobody is afraid of confused people .
LMAO
When you put RDR1 and RDR2 together it creates one of the greatest stories ever told in my opinion. RDR1 is my top 3 all time and RDR2 is my number 1 all time favorite video game. The story telling is on par with some of the greatest films and tv shows ever the character development is on the same level breaking bad was and the acting is oscar worthy. RDR1 was way ahead of its time when it came out and RDR2 is arguably gaming's greatest achievement graphically and story wise. I played this game for my grandfather and he said it's like watching a deadwood cartoon.
@bongbrain07 last of us
The Last of Us and Uncharted gotta be up there too
@@BlackWolf-pk8tx No way, unfortunately I did not feel nearly the same way about The Last of Us as I did Red Dead Redemption 1 or 2. No doubt it's good, but Rockstar really, reaaaaaaally knocked it out of the park on this one. Uncharted couldn't even hold my attention. Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 will be remembered for a very long time as western classics of the Video Game industry.
Pierce Miletich uncharted is ass, all 4
Fescher Bursche you’re stupid uncharted is amazing one of my favorite game series ever. stfu
3:41:22 I wonder what John was thinking about.. in that last minute, Abigail, Jack? Arthur, the Good old days... until he couldn’t hold on any longer. I’m upset now
He was probably thinking about how he was gonna die and how his family was going to have to survive without him and stay safe from the agents
He's probably thinking "ow ow ow ow ow"
obi wan Kenobi ooh ow ouch uff ugh ow ouch
Pvt. Frost ok I was doing mr nice guy bounty’s donation to church and helping people out now I’m killing the agents if I can
He was regretting that he couldn’t kill Uncle himself
This game must've looked awesome back in 2010 cuz it still looks amazing!
1:40:56
"what are you doing here?"
"Living quietly, waiting."
"for what?"
"I don't know."
a tell tale sign that he's waiting to pass away?
And he does after the last mission. It's mentioned on the last newspaper.
I think I’m the only one who thinks it’s badass to play as Jack at the end of the whole series. Especially now after rdr 2 is out and after seeing him as a kid growing up in that whole mess and literally being the only surviving member of the gang besides Tilly, Mary-Beth, Pearson and reverend.
Just how he waited 3 years after his mom died to go and get his revenge and avenge his father and realistically, also avenging the whole lot of all the gang members who died because of the righteousness of the Pinkertons.
Jack, as a narrative device, is perfectly fine.
But there are two main issues I have with him:
1) John Marston becomes such an absolute icon throughout the game, it's hard to let him go. Seeing as we barely have any story missions with Jack, we do not really get to see what he is like, what he thinks, his humour, his demeanor, his outlook on life, etc... All we see is an angry, vengeful boy. While this may have been intentional (john wanted a better life for his son, but jack ended up just another gunslinger with a mean streak), it's a somewhat bitter pill to swallow after having played as John for 95% of the game.
2) Jack has no respect for his horse, and it makes me hate him.
@@RedFloyd469 "W O R K Y A, D A M N N A G !
Bruh i shot up edgar ross that his head exploded
Actually he didnt wait 3 years after his ma's death to kill Ross she died in 1914
@@RedFloyd469 Yeah John getting Smoked came out of left field I had to our tye game down right afterwards I didn't play it for like a year afterwards.
3:31:26 is one of the best foreshadowing you can get
I was looking for this comment
Sometimes it's the smallest of details that really highlights how chacters feel. Marston has this small, subtle smile at 2:02:30 when Ricketts makes a joke over cards. It makes you feel that Marston really likes and respects the old gunslinger.
I love it
Yeah, Red Dead I and II especially do an amazing job of showing us our protagonist when he is really listening, or being influenced. As good as the dialogue delivery always is, the camera often cuts to the protagonist's live, developing reaction.
@@MonkeyBiznessFGC Good input. 👍
2:22:54 when John said it’s been a long time since he used dynamite for sure he was referring to that train mission with authur
Too bad Bill became a bad guy, he was cool for the most part in rdr2, always a bit of a idiot but funny.
Bill was Bill. Loyal to Dutch and him only. In RDR2 he mentions he wants to start a gang, but remains loyal to Dutch. After Dutch goes nuts, Bill does what Bill does best, trying hard as fuck not to fuckup.
and weird
Bill and Micah were by far my least favorite.
Wasn’t Bill gay or Bi? I’m pretty sure in his letter of termination from the Army that the reason was sexual deviancy, right? I’m kind of wondering if he was in love with Dutch lol.
Bruh. Bill was a racist and lazy asshole who was also dumb as shit. He treated Lenny, Javier and Charles so horrible cause they were not white. Hosea should’ve capped his ass
"No, only angels can fly, Jenny"
Arthur Morgan flew on a hot air balloon once :')
Haha
Arthur morgan is an angel
@@javierescuella731 how you doing in jail..
@Dutch Van der linde you was good man once but micah turn you into crazy..
@@_gamepatcher_3177 if you were in there then you too angel... 😂😂
The shirt that John is wearing is the one that Abigail gives him as a gift in RDR2 during the Epilogue.
Poetic.
Is it just me or does RDR2 John look skinny as hell compared to RDR1 John, at his perfect weight that is?
I think he looked so skinny in rdr2 because of a glitch
You can make John look fatter by feeding him a lot. You can check your result when you press the settings button (PS4, I don't know what is that button called on Xbox One) and then go to Player.
I think that’s just the dad bod kicking in
That was a glitch I was confused too but it fixed itself and if anything he looks skinnier here
@@myfatassdick hes not skinnier here lmao
Bruh back when this first came out I thought these freakin graphics were photo-realistic smh how far we've come
Makes me think how maybe in a few years, RDR2 will be considered wack in graphics.
@@OutlawKING111 No matter how realistic graphics in games are, the eyes always give it away. If you can find a game with realistic eyes link it to me.
@@theconman8472 rdr2 😅
@@skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795 not in my opinion sorry.
It's funny to me. I've been around since before the original GTA came out, so yeah, the improvement in graphics quality since back then is pretty drastic. At the same time, I look at RDR2, and still don't think that is even close to photorealistic. I'm not sure exactly what photorealistic is, beyond that I won't know it when I see it, which is sort of the point of photorealism.
Never played this game. I gotta say Rockstar did an amazing job with the dialogue and story. I'm watching this like a movie and having more fun than anything I've seen recently.
U should play it it’s worth it
Same
Watching it like a movie too since beating rd2 over 10 times it’s cool knowing everything is after I cannot wait for RD3 to release
"We gotta stop meeting like this." They meet on a snowy mountain last time when they both wanted to kill Micah, now the Government got John to kill Dutch, just like Micah with the Government wanted to kill the whole gang.
1:11:24 me, when I finally hit the lottery.
XD
Lol i remember dat scene
Damn. I forgot that Seth existed
It's a testament to Rockstars writing that they're able to take an unlikable, annoying hillbilly villain from the first game and turn him into a character you genuinely cared for in the prequel. I'll always feel sorry for Bill, I feel like he would've sided with Arthur had there been more support.
I just love how John's confidence in himself has skyrocketed in RDR1. Not cocky by any means, but someone Authur would consider a "real man".
he heeded authur's last words to him. "get out of here and be a goddamn man."
I don't know, John was meant to be like RDR1 self but more aggresive in RDR2, RDR1 John said it. So Arthur's words are retcon.
@@weplo1597 I would still argue John is the same in RDR2, just less experienced and not ready to be a father. He’s pretty much back to his old self by the end of RDR2.
@@imbetterthanyou6927 I doubt it. John does nothing other than sit at camp and get rescued by someone else.
@@weplo1597 he was conflicted, with his struggles regarding his family and the outlaw life, being on the run, being paranoid and especially how his father figure, the man that saved him, Dutch, was crumbling before his eyes.
2:34:55 the horses literally exploded from there existence.
Where?
What horses? All I saw was a fine red mist. 🙃
Looks like John would've died too. The wagon literally turned into where he jumped lol
2:33:03 John: what would Louisa say about that? 😡
Reyes: Who!?!🤔
She’s ready to die for a man that doesn’t know she’s breathing! 🤣
*Laaauuraaa*
Red dead 2 DLC should be this story.
Full game on the red dead 2 games engine
With all the same upgraded
Features
This would be awesome but as they would have to add mexico into the map, I cannot see it happening :(
Anita Wertz with all the demand of that I really hope they will see the community wants it and they’ll make it happen.
Yeah no ._.
Anita Wertz
That’d be a huge waste of time for R*
Why cant yall take red dead 1 AS IS?
Not every game needs to be remastered.
Especially The First Red Dead.
Arthur Morgan brought me here
How?
John Marston brought me here
The game brought me here red dead redemption than it’s success brought a prequel your Arthur
Imagine in the first game it showed John walking with Charles and sending him on his way, playing the first one we’d never know who he was. But as we’d play the second one we’d see how important Charles was and how good of a friend he was.
We really need a remaster with more of a storyline about Arthur and the gang
What are you talking about? Wasnt that the point of red dead redemption?
That isnt a remaster. Adding a additional storyline to the game would make it a remake
@@novagenesis0116 well a remake with everything the same and a couple of mentions of arthur would be amazing
No the gang is done it’s getting pretty tiring of them now should be jack
2:53:22 that's dutch's voice actor XD
The Shrimp Gamer omfg it is
Yeah he played Dutch in both games. So did Bill.
@@HurriShane00 he means the Indian guy
They didn’t even try to hide it
JamBamRam hahahaha its so bad
years later and this is still my favorite game series. Outlaws for Life.
22:43-22:58 my favorite lines since red dead 1 came out
18:37 Bonnie says "on the count of 3". But she starts with 3😂.
Like most people, so?
Bruh that's the most stupidest comment ever
Are you and all 83 of your likes brain-dead?
Learning how John became John in RDR2 gave me a lot of closure I was never happy with losing John at the end of RDR and I tried my best to win that final barn show down
Keep that fighting spirit
they need to make a red dead 1 remastered
No it's perfect the way it is
Sean 420 I don’t have a 360 account so I can’t play the game without a remake/remaster.
brAINDEADRETARD69 Your account on One should work on 360, plus it’s backwards compatible, you can play RDR on Xbox One
@@Sean-ny3bt it’s not. It’s ugly and lifeless.
Maybe one day
2:25:00 for some reason, I had put on a disguise with a sombrero before starting that mission. When the cutscene punching De Santa started, John was still wearing the sombrero and it was bobbing back and forth on his head.
I completely lost it at that point.
The good old days before arthur, still rdr1 was still my fav game when i played 2013
I will admit one thing the second game doesn’t have compared to this was the cutscene ambience. It was quiet, hardly any music, and John and the other characters talked and spoke like they were in a 1960’s western film. The next game went for a more modern styled cutscenes because they wanted to focus a lot more on the story and characters, but I think this game was all about that aesthetic. Kinda like how The Lost and Damned felt like Sons of Anarchy or Franklin’s missions in GTA V felt like a hip hop drama
This game from 2010 still looks great
I wouldn't say great, but its still fine
It's one of the best looking ps3 games in my opinion. Its great. I don't understand why people are acting like its ps1 graphics lol.
remember that red dead redemption 1 has 4k support on xbox one x ... the look of the game changes drastically with higher resolution
John’s death is even more sadder after competing RDR2, it hit me harder than Arthur’s death.
30:08 John’s memorable moment from his past.
3:38:57 atleast he didn't die of lumbago
😭
Lol
He did. Without the lumbago he would have killed all those soldiers in a matter of seconds.
Lmao
They called him the one shot kid for a reason
John had a daughter? There's no mention of this in rdr 2, so i guess john and abi tried for another kid after the events rdr 2
john had his daughter waaaaaayy before the events of rdr2, its an old memory at that point
Wonders Nope. John specifically mentions that he had a daughter who died years after he left the gang. The existence of John’s daughter literally makes no sense now. Especially since Javier mentions John’s farm and his daughter as well. Two things that he shouldn’t know about. Plus, with how RDR2 is, it’s as if she never existed at all.
@@Deathpool_04 There was a time between the end of rdr2 and the epilogue where john and abigail are moving about and john is adapting to becoming a citizen. I think it's like 1907 or something, so the time between 1899 and 1907 is enough time to have a daughter, who at that age with very little stability could pass from a variety of sicknesses. A lot of children didn't survive back then from stuff they'd survive from these days. My own family i can track back to a photo we have of a mother with about 14 kids who then all passed besides 3 of them. It happened a lot, sadly.
rkhale02 I think you’re missing the point. RDR2 would still contradicts what John said about her. He said that he had a daughter who died years after he left the gang while Javier knows about her and the farm. Two things he shouldn’t know about at all. He wouldn’t know where John and his family are when they are in hiding and he’s was in Mexico. If Bill told Javier, how would he know that too? Especially when the daughter died anyway. I also doubt the Pinkterons would actually tell Bill or anybody about John’s dead daughter. If she died after RDR2 ended, there is no tombstone of her anywhere. In the epilogue, it seems like she wasn’t born yet since they act like she ever existed. One of the dialogues you could have with Uncle is where John says “I thought I already had a child to look after”, then Uncle says “you weren’t doing so well with him, so god gave you a second chance”, and John says “two children now”. It’s as if they never the second child yet.
I kinda hope R* decides to fix this. It's so weird for them to have another child and then barely mention her. In RDR1, it makes sense since she probably died young (a heartbreaking thing) and we didn't have a sequel-prequel. With RDR2 though, I assumed we would have more information on the daughter, especially at the epilogue where she would probably be a baby/toddler but we don't. Weird.
Marshal Johnston’s lines always stuck with me as a kid. He’s an underrated legend.
I don’t remember it raining the entire time while in Mexico.
@The Truth 😂😂😂
@@TheTruth-ro2tc only in some regions,in others it rains like once a year
"Please, sir, what are we going to do?"
"I'm going to hand you over to 'em and watch them tear you limb from limb."
"WHAT?!"
"Just kidding."
time stamp?
Jacob M 3:06:45
This is a game that actually deserves a remaster, unlike certain other Rockstar properties.
3:22:57 ... that was a creepy asf reaction o_O
Lmao
Looks like he just let loose a wet fart 😂
2:32:38 is the only time stamp that matters
J O bro I had it at full blast clicked on it then my mum walked in... Thanks dude...
I remember that from when in was 9...
I was only 4 when i played cause my uncle had it and i remember him playing and i walked on him when he was on this scene 😂😂
Bro my volume was all the way youre lucky my family is asleep
@@w00zle28 yes
I really remember the day i got it and started playing and the first cutscene i was just like “wow” like i was amazed with how good the game looked. Till this day still a top 5 game of mine
Crazy to see how many people haven’t played the first game
If only it could've gotten a pc port
Red dead was really a game ahead of its time. What a masterpiece it was.
not it was, but it is and will always be
The only thing that is on par with John's dry humor is Arthur's scathing sarcasm.
"We can't fight gravity". That's what Dutch says in RDR II before jumping off a cliff into a river with Arthur.
Rdr2: *John And Dutch meet in the snow*
Rdr: *john and Dutch meet in the snow*
John we gotta stop meeting like this
Gamer World when
What are you talking about
Hunter Stair a cliff , snowy cliff, chasing eachother, not just snow
A American Western Classic across all forms of entertainment. Art in a sense
Marshal Johnson is one of the funniest, well-acted and underrated characters in the entire series. Both games.
0:09 This luxurious boat must have come from Saint Denis
The fact that John got off of a Steamboat in Blackwater clearly indicates that he was elsewhere. And seeing as Saint Denise is the only other place that had a Steamboat tells me that John had to of been in Saint Denise. Rdr 2 really opens a person's eyes to Rockstars plans. This proves that they already was already planning on making another addition to rdr and that their plan was, way before they released teasers, to go back in the past. Truly hope that they find a way to make another addition to the RDR series because this was, by far, the game series that put Rockstar on the map
Rockstar was already on the map way before this game came out lol
bro...these guys made GTA
I wish Arthur had johns hat from rdr 1 so it would have been more emotional when Arthur gives John his hat
Don't you think that's sounds like very old story trope.
Lakshay Kochhar Yea, that’s the point. Plus it would be awesome
@@lakshaykochhar9802 Tropes are fine if done well.
I bet any money that was brought up in the studio. However, I could also see Rockstar throwing that idea out because they wouldn’t want anybody predicting what happens in the end
Mitchell Rupena Yeah exactly, had I recognised John’s hat on Arthur, I would have guessed what happens in the end