A Close-up Look at Painting Aluminum Siding
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Here is a free plug to B. Marshall Home Improvements. This is not a paid commercial. This father-son team, Ben & Ben, did a great job for me so I thought I'd give them some free advertising. They do much more than painting and serve the wider Washington, D.C. to Baltimore, MD region.
Note: Videos are purely a hobby of mine. I do not get paid in any way.
I painted one side of my house the OEM color as it took the brunt of weathering; chalked, peeling paint and a few dents courtesty of my kids. I power washed, sanded with 100 grit to remove the loose paint and give a tooth to the aluminum, then filled deep dents using plastic body filler and feathered it in. Using a brush and a foam roller, primed then top coated, it took 3 days to do a small section of the home by myself. It still looks good after 5 years but to say I was exhausted afterward is an understatement, leave the hard work to the pros! A very nice job, well worth the money and the correct tools make it quick work.
Thanks for sharing!
Suggest that viewers review the comments with this video. Really appreciate that the video creator took the time to answer questions and respond to comments. Thanks John. Very helpful.
Brian 👍happy to help, Brian.
Wow, beautiful workmanship! They make a great team and clearly take pride in their work!!!! Wished they lived in VT.!
Great job they did I wish they were in the New York area I need the same work done to my house 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks 👍
GREAT JOB GUYS!!!! WISH YOU LIVED IN MICHIGAN
you dont calk corners 2:52?? Time for a new tip..3:32 reason ur geting the lines at the edge of ur fan... and is the 24" wand necessary??? And super paint.. dont recommend it in dark colors.. fades to quickly
Good except for pointing the pressure washer wand upwards while cleaning: Water will be driven under the siding.
I agree with this concern, Randolf; best question. In fact, it was my main hesitation and skepticism point I discussed with Ben before agreeing to the job. As it turns out, unlike the type of high-pressure washing coupled with the water nozzle type one would do on a deck (maybe ~1500psi?) that can erode the surface of soft woods, this pressure washing equipment isn’t as severe. Still, the upward direction was my concern. But he assured me, and he was correct, that after a few days in the sun, any minor amount of water that made it into the drip holes or behind the overlaps was gone. And, after almost two years and close examination, there is still no evidence of any problem whatsoever. Absolutely no peeling or bad spots anywhere. Amazing how well it holds up and still looks new. Thanks for commenting. I agree one shouldn’t use the same pressure washing as done on a deck (nozzle type, pressure setting, and proximity to the surface). That could be trouble.
Man everybody gives their opinions like they're Pros. I'm a professional painter I can tell you a little water underneath the siding is not going to hurt a damn thing
Do you mind sharing how many square feet your home is and how much it cost for the repaint and new gutters? Im looking to get this done to my home and have no idea how much its going to cost. Thanks.
Great work ! But only one coat ? 👍
Yes. All that was necessary. Complete coverage. Still great.
Great Job!
Thanks, Bob.
u could not pay me enough to get up on that ladder lol
Agreed, Cory!
that ladder alone is about an 1/8 or 1/6th of the cost. They are not cheap.
Would've liked more commentary on what you're doing, why, options and choices that were made.
Looks good.
John, how is the paint job holding up? Did they estimate how long the paint would last? How close are you to the ocean? Thanks
chamsam It’s holding up extremely well. I’ve been noticing and commenting to friends that after a full year of all seasons that there isn’t so much as a single tiny blister or flake of paint anywhere. And no drips to be seen. I think a tribute to the professional spraying equipment (and of course the guys who did the job).
I am not near the ocean. And I guess one can only go by the warranty period stated by the paint manufacturer. But whatever that is, I’d have it painted again before tearing off the siding.
Is it worth the cost? My home is similar to yours, can you share the cost? I definitely cannot afford new siding...
@@TheMrSpaceghost i am curious about this as well.
Great work, I need that done to my house just can't afford it, so I got to do it myself
Good for you. You will save a lot of money.
Literally same
John Renzi what was the price
no ladder stabilizer?
Muy lindo trabajo saludes desde cartago Costa Rica saludes muchachos
Gracias
Do you know how a ballpark on how much it would cost to get my two story 1000sf house prepped and painted by a company?
Sorry, but no. Best way is to get three estimates.
So now that it’s years later, how did the paint hold up? I’m thinking of spraying our siding
Still looks great. Not a single chip, no fading or discoloration. Like I said in the video, I was initially very skeptical but now a full believer with proof. And if you think about it, it's not painting bare aluminum. It's painting on cleaned non-glossy pre-painted aluminum of which the original factory paint is a good baked on oxidized undercoat.
When I watched this video, I was surprised that the wash/prep process was so "simple" - it doesn't look really all that thorough to me. Also, one coat of paint only?... How's the paint 4 years later. Also, your siding looks like vinyl siding and not aluminum, or do they make textured aluminum siding?
It's aluminum siding. Not vinyl. The wash/prep and dry was thorough. No dirt or issues. Not a spec of drip or chip anywhere. Perfect uniform adhesion, colorfast, and coverage to this day. Everything to do with the proper equipment, paint quality, and skill.
Did the painter have to add a bonding agent (e.g., Emulsa Bond) to the paint to prevent peeling?
No he did not. Didn’t have to add anything. And not a speck of peeling all this time. It’s likely that since the siding was so aged and the original finish was so oxidized and far from a new surface that such a bonding agent is simply not necessary. Still amazes me how new it looks today. Totally happy with it.
The finish looks factory. Two thumbs up to your painter and his crew!
Super paint by sherwin Williams has a feature to it which helps the paint bond to vinyl and aluminum. Although I still seal any chalky surfaces with Seal Krete
always prime aluminum siding ,it maybe ok with out it but don't want to risk not lasting 10 years
Cual primer recomienda para siding de aluminio??gracias
federico jimenez no ocupas primer solo compra esa pintura que usaron ellos súper paint y Lava bien el Siding con una máquina de presión asegúrate de poner 2 manos de pintura si lo haces tú o quien te haga el trabajo
Gracias por la explicación.
What machine do you use so the sprayer could work
You would have to call Ben for that question because I don’t know. (Ben & Ben did the work.) His number is in the video.
The video showed a ‘Graco Magnum’. They are great paint sprayers.
@@Joe-bv7io I hired them last year to do some additional work (paint shutters by hand, spray paint the parging, and spray paint my dentil molding on the front of the house). They showed me their new sprayer - even bigger than the one they used on the siding.
Has the Sherwin Williams super paint held up since this job was completed?
Yes it has. I am still impressed how well it has held up, no peeling or any other problems. As I mentioned in the video, I was very skeptical at first about the prospect of painting aluminum siding, but keep in mind that this wasn't painting some new glossy bare aluminum surface. I suspect that might be different.
Thank you for the reply Sir 👍
About how much did this cost? I am in the DC baltimore area ha
I really don't recall but that probably wouldn't help anyway because you would likely have a different breakdown on how many linear feet of gutter, square footage of siding, etc. Nothing to lose to call for a free estimate.
What type of guard and tip are you spraying with? Is that a cone cone? Heard of them but never really seen one in action.
Scott cheney I wouldn’t know what Ben and Ben used. But you could call them and ask. I’m sure Ben would be happy to answer your questions. Their number is in the video.
How did it hold up
it has been three years... are there any updates? Still looking good?
Thanks for checking in, Bill. Still looks as good as when they did the job. 100% pleased. Absolutely no flaking, chipping, or anything. I suppose it's a testament to the preparation AND the quality of the paint. I think I said in the video that I was apprehensive at first but this definitely proved to me that you can paint aluminum siding. I think the difference between painting my aluminum siding vs. painting new, bare (shiny) uncoated aluminum is that the aluminum siding had the coating of the manufacturer's paint as a base. And it may have helped that that original paint coating was somewhat aged in the sun over the years. Who knows.
@@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi That is where I am at as well as my siding is at with age... approximately 12 years old and ready for new fresh color. Thanks again for the reply@
How much would this cost on a typical townhouse to repaint siding?
I have no idea since I'm not in the business. But I'm sure Ben can give you a ballpark figure. His number is in the video.
How did they remove all the overspray on ypur windows?
There was no overspray on the windows or anywhere else!
saw some pretty major dents up high o home stretch area at end,,,musta been from leaning ladder against siding in a few spots?
No. The house was built in 1989, been thru strong storms, including tropical storms. I only know of one or two small dents I caused one time. I watched them the entire time. They didn't add any dents.
@@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi i was just trying to figure out how i could do it myself without denting the siding,,,then saw your dents.....did you notice how they put thier ladder halfway up by chance?...how did they keep from denting?
@@trumpstriggerfinger Their ladder has a smooth rounded top. Didn't see any dents. If there is a dent, it could be from a flying tree branch from a tropical storm.
How many coats of paint?
Just one
Que número el tip que esta usando disculpe. Se le agradecería
Sorry, I wouldn’t know what size tip they use. But you could call them and ask. You would need to ask them in English, though. Thanks!
What sheen was the body and the trim?
Mike, the finish is "Satin". A quick photo of the can label at 2:05, but easy to miss. Thanks for asking.
Pro painting contractor here. This is done completely wrong and will peel. PDCA Textbook is crystal clear- You need to use a metal bonding primer, like KEM-BOND or PRO-CRYL. Painting directly onto metal siding without priming is a noob/DIY move. Also, almost no contractors swing by old jobs “just for the fun of it” so I highly doubt he’s been by the job to verify it’s held up haha.
Charles G, Let me enlighten you:
1. You're premise is completely wrong. If you noticed, this aluminum siding is not bare aluminum. If it were, then you would be correct regarding the need to use a metal bonding primer. But the fact of the matter is, the original bonding agent and baked-on factory paint was and still is intact and, better yet, aged and oxidized perfectly, i.e., not a "shiny surface", for perfectly bonding this new Super Paint.
2. This paint job is now over 5 years old and I'm here to inform you that it has performed perfectly. Still looks factory, has not peeled or chipped so much as a speck. Has not discolored or in any way degraded. Proof for my Point #1. If you read the other comments, you would have seen that others have asked me for updates and I respond with both thumbs up.
3. You are also incorrect regarding them coming back. This was no "DIY" job. I'm an engineer and do my research; these guys are the best in the Baltimore-Washington region. They did come back: I hired them to do other painting. I only hire the best.
they did an amazing job my house is here in kansas and its almost identical to yours. i had some guys come out and do my house the same way only it looked like a goddam five year old did it .
Wow, I feel bad for you, 556 man.
That could have some to do with the sheen you had applied as well as a sub par product. Flat hides imperfections and overlaps better than gloss. Gloss is like putting a magnifying glass over the house.
How many gallons did that take?
I really don't know but you can call Ben and he can probably venture a guess. His number is on his truck in the video. Tell Ben I sent you.
That video is like Palmer videos anti obduction tape Wich I have one so I know great video
What is that sprayer called? Where do I get it??
I don't know but feel free to call Ben at 1-888-203-7743 and he would be glad to tell you. Tell him that John Renzi, the guy who made the video, said to give him a call.
What kind of spray gun is that?
Sorry I don't know, but you could call either Ben and I know they would be happy to discuss. Their number is on the picture of his truck near the end of the video.
How is paint holding up now?
Great! Not a single chip or discoloration anywhere.
I have been told to use a primer before painting. Was your paint made with a primer in it?
Margaret Mayfield Yes. This paint included the primer.
Just to clarify this for you, any paint of quality doesn't advertise the paint primer combo. Good paint covers because of the pigment and quality of chemicals in it. The more pricey generally the smaller the pigment peices are. Therefore they fill in better. The paint primer gimmick is to squeeze money from consumers that don't know.
curious how much a job like that runs. looks like you have a decent sized home.
Tyler, the entire job cost $8200.00, including the power washing, painting, gutters, downspouts, and gutter guards. I don't recall the breakdown but it seems the painting part alone was between $4K and $5K (includes the power washing, of course). Hope this helps.
Did they only do one coat of paint or two?
Only one coat. Great coverage. Still looks factory; no drips or flakes even after a full year.
I was going to ask the same question. Everything i have ever seen painted with only one coat looks good at first..maybe for the first 1-2 years but then after than you begin to see thin spots. I'm doing my own, and will do two coats - don't care if it is twice the cost, because i will not have to redo it in half the time i otherwise would if i had only applied 1 coat!
Rick Shaw I’m a pro painter and I always do 2 coats of paint also I like to cover everything that’s not getting painted and do long streaks if you overlap the paint and the walls is hot from the sun you will se where the paint dried befor the other one
The pleasure is low you are getting tails, a pro painter should know that.
Can you roll on as well ?
Sorry, but no.
John Renzi why ?
John Renzi thanks for responding. I just bought 5 gallons of the same paint. Painting same siding tomorrow.
@@westtexasoil4973 Not saying it won't work; just thinking it would be hard to prevent drips and stipple effect, but I suppose if you roll it on and brush it out immediately with a large brush as you move along, I suppose you can. So perhaps rolling might be an alternative way to apply it provided you immediately brush it out as you go. Let us know how it goes.
You can only spray this!
Take 20 mnts to mask those windows
Those shields worked perfectly.
And no, you couldn’t mask 21 windows, on ladders, in 20 minutes.
High work is not eye work ;0
How much does it cost to paint a house with aluminum siding
I honestly couldn't give a good answer. This was 7 years ago, plus the factors are many, not the least of which is square footage. Best if you call local companies for their quotes. I do wish you well in this. Mine is still like new. No chips, colorfast, etc.
Not one window covered from overspray. There are little white polka dots everywhere now.
You would be incorrect: There isn't a single "polka dot" anywhere. Not a spec. Quality work by true professionals using the proper equipment.
I liked it better before 🤭
John they probably hated you as much as I do. Just watching them do everything. is super annoying. .
Very much to the contrary, Jay (speaking for Ben and Ben)! We got along great and they loved the fact that I was creating this video and giving them a ton of visibility/ free advertising. They came back last year and gave me a great discount on another job.
Not good working
Ugly work must b overspray on all windows
You would be wrong on both points.