There are very few of your videos I haven't watched, and a common theme is the filler gauge at the end of the cylinder in-line with the barrel. Quite a while ago, it occurred to me that a simple idea to nullify this possible danger point is a spirit bottle top or similar that would fit over the moderator with a penny glued to the inside of the top. Two holes drilled through the sides of the top to house strong elastic or cord retained on any appropriate site, i.e.scope mount. Just an idea, Michael.
@@DiegoRomer0 I seriously doubt if I hit you in the face with 20 gold flights you'll try to pull your gun! No you will be in severe pain and will be trying to get somewhere. You're going to need those gold flights surgically removed from your face!
@@DiegoRomer0 lmfao if you can see or move after those rounds enter your body. You think just bc you have a real gun that it’ll help but if those pellets get stuck in your forearm how you finna shoot🤡and I’m talking .177 not no petty bbs
Steyr M9 A1 4.5mm steel BB is a beast tbh at 3.3 joules and 450 fps it dispatches snakes easily. Great channel Andy, watch it religiously. All the best from Portugal
With CO2, the bigger the calibre, the greater the efficiency. This is because CO2 has a fixed pressure at a given temperature, so the only way to extract more force from it is to increase the bore diameter ( force equals pressure times surface area). I have no idea why replica pistols, especially revolvers, aren't available in .22, since the larger calibre would produce 50% more power with no other changes to the gun. I made a .22 barrel insert for my old S&W 586 CO2 revolver and gained about 40% extra muzzle energy with no other changes to the gun.
@@3dtom Hi, it was fairly simple but does require a lathe. First remove the original barrel liner which is "stretched" between the frame and the outer barrel at the muzzle. I cut a 7/32 (0.21875") ID tube to the same length as the 4.5 mm barrel insert and threaded both ends on the outside diameter to match the original barrel liner. I believe the pitch is M10 fine (i.e. 10 mm x 1 mm pitch). Mine was just a smoothbore tube but a length of old .22 airgun barrel would have been much better. The OD has to be machined down to 10 mm. The velocity drops slightly compared to the 4.5 mm barrel but the 5.5 mm pellet is almost twice as heavy, and energy goes up at least 40%.
I own a busy pest control company. For indoor use we use the 1377 as it can be controlled to not destroy the fixtures and fittings within an expensive hotel. We also use the SMK pp700 pistols for small pests outside in yards and sometimes in cellars with lasers attached. We use crosman 2240s for roofspaces where we find pigeons and rats. We use the Alecto for inside premises due to its power differences. So lower power for rats inside a kitchen where pellets can rebound. We use rifles such as the Kral np02 or FX verminators for rats around farms. We have many other set ups as well. My advice is that one pistol will never do all, choose the best pistol or rifle for the job and Always, plan your jobs beforehand for any pest controlling. Good luck Thanks AAR great reviews again, let me know if you want any more comments from a pest control perspective Vital group
Take a look at the Umarex T4E CO2 pistols. A fair bit more punch than what you had on the table, and a much wider range of ammo can be used, from paintballs, hard rubber balls, & even up to steel ball bearings for close range. Available in .43, .50, & .68 cal Available in the UK, even delivered to your door as classed as paintball markers, but not allowed at most paintball places as way too powerful! These are marketed as “less than lethal” home protection in many countries!
Nice review as usual. I would have mentioned the Artemis CP2 (co2 powered, pellets) which you reviewed in the past since it achieves 7.5 Joules of energy and it has good accuracy for a co2 pistol.
I had a 22 caliber CO2 pistol. It was a Berretta look-alike. I don't recall if it was Daisey or Crossman. .it had a six round magazine. I caught a big rat on a glue board in a warehouse. I shot the rat with a Crossman domed pellet. The pellet went through the rat, through the glue board, hit the concrete floor, bounced up and through one side of a cardboard box and down the other end of the warehouse. I was highly impressed with the power and penetration I got with a fresh CO2 cartridge and the 22 caliber pellet. Unfortunately the gun didn't hold up well and leaked gas after a few months.
Very professional and TV quality reviews. Great presentation skills and presence in videos. I’ve been watching for a few months now. You could have your own TV show, something like How 2 that aired in the 90s. If I were a TV producer, I’d want you to present my shows. You also remind me of a few cool famous people. A bit of Bricktop from Snatch, Clint Eastwood and when you talk Maths, like FPS, joules, foot pounds, you remind me a little of Carole Vorderman. The way in which you construct and enunciate your sentences. Even if I wasn’t interested in Air Guns, I’d find your reviews very entertaining, educational and interesting. Thank you for your reviews. Do you have Twitter?
Brilliant job Andy! Loved the 'Towel' analogy!!!!!!!!!! We are really fortunate to have such a fantastic range of CO2 pistols to choose from - especially as their low power levels allow them to be used in relatively small spaces in these restrictive times. Their true value and purpose is pure shooting enjoyment. Shooting CO2 pistols at any living thing, is nothing short of reckless and irresponsible. Great that you expressed this, but it would be ideal if all of the manufacturers printed this fact clearly on the packaging. Roll on next Friday matey!
In my personal experience a co2 pistol actually works great for small garden snakes. They're usually lighter than the real thing so you can easily carry your replica as well as your self defense pistol and yeah when you're right on top of them you can get pretty easy headshots.
Way more important are the questions about: 1. The best trajectory in the available range (5-10 meters for an appartment and a bit more for a house) 2. Resistance to the wind and other factors (for shooting outside). 3. Noise level for shooting inside. 4. Ricochet and ability to damage walls and stuff inside.
Great informative video again there Andy As we are talking about power, the Crosman 2240 is a powerhouse for a co2 pistol, at around 5.5ftlbs and a good close quarters (10metre) vermin gun and cheap at £80 as well and built like a tank. I would recommend the crosman 1377 and 1322 multipumps over the Strikepoint but i may be biased as i own both but they are both more powerful than the Strikepoint and they are unbelievably customisable and modifiable to the shooters tastes. The Strikepoint has a bit too much plastic or ballistic polymer as they like to refer to it these days but then again i own the Webley Alecto MK3 and the nearly the whole of the frame is ballistic polymer and is powerful at 5.7ftlbs. I own the Hatsan Supercharger. 177 and it runs at 5.6ftlbs which is more powerful than the Weirauch HW45, and the HW45 is more than double the price of the Hatsan Supercharger as well. All the best from lancashire.
Excellent comparisons, and it really does show you need to experiment to find the sweet spot for each replica. I'd be interested in an accuracy test, especially for the plastic blaster BBs, as the only thing putting me off buying BB replicas is the ricochet risk, so blasters or dust devils would be my choice _if_ they are accurate enough. I imagine those plastic BBs could go a bit squirly at higher fps, so would love to see some target work.
Thank you, Sir. I enjoyed the tour of guns most in this video. The stream of numbers was a little hard to deal with because, after a few guns and projectiles, the numbers roll over faster than I can retain. You made your point about the inverse relationship of speed and power, but the point will be more intuitive if you show graphs. The graphics would ease the work on my brain for buffering numbers and making comparisons. Your channel is very helpful to me and I'm very glad for your contributions.
I hope you read these. I did something that may have made my pellet pistol possibly deadly. That i would like to see you test and experiment with. I took gamo fast flight penetrator pellets the red ones and drilled a small hole through the back of them in order to push out the metal point inside of the plastic sleeve. Then took a dremmel and grinded down the back of the metal point in order to make it shorter and then put the metal point back inside the plastic sleeve by simply pressing them in with pliers. This makes the pellets able to fit in my pellet pistol without any jamming and i am able to shoot throught multiple layers of cloth from a few yards away and straight through ply wood
Long Range accuracy doesn’t matter in self defense situations. Self defense situations are pretty much always close quarter situations happening within a range of 1 to 2 meters. A airgun that blasts completely through a can within 5 to 6 meters does make the needed damage and penetrates skin and flesh. A airgun revolver like a single action army has even more power. Diabolos can do severe damage. Especially hollow point ones.
In the States a Daisy 415 puts out steel .177 bb's at 470 fps as measured on my chronograph. $ 30.00 US . Not legal in Canada or the UK. Bummer for you guys.
The whip analogy I think falls off a bit when you consider that the piece of fabric cracking at the speed of sound will not only sting but cut you like a razor
That Beretta has a nice long barrel, hence the better power and accuracy....I love my umarex 92 and the colt 1911. They are the two most accurate co2s I own.
Spot on review of these amazing pistols, Length of barrel and weight of pellets along with non blowback contributes significantly to the overall performance of the pistol. I have the Barra Schofield and the Colt Peacemaker along with the Remington 1875 which are all Co2 and fire pellets from the rear of the pistol. Having a rifled barrel can also increase the accuracy of the pistol.
@@monterodelgado2577 sorry for the late reply. I haven’t got one yet - I sort of forgot about it. I think that powerful co2 pistols aren’t really a thing. I was gonna go for a glock 17 gen 4 as they look really fun and are relatively powerful (for a co2 blowback). Good luck with whatever you decide and I’m sorry that I can’t be of more use.
I have known several people Who have saved their lives in situations by using or merely brandishing a Co2 pistol. Shot placement. Energy . And shot capacity . I have found that the Daisy 426 , 415, and 5170 are best for this sort of thing ; the Crosman Vigilante , Crosman SNR , and GAMO P25 also have worked wonders . I am from Texas ( Where Fire Arms are extensions of Our Cultural Freedom) but Air Guns are still respected. and used for self defense by people of all walks of life due to personal restrictions or restricted areas where fire arms are not allowed ; then there are those Who simply do not like fire arms but want “ Something” for protection . Many of My friends and relatives keep a GAMO Swarm .22 caliber for home defense and a Co2 pistol upon their person when taking a walk in the park.
This!!! He doesn't mention in the video how harmful pointed pellets can be and they also have limits in the UK on how strong a C02 gun can be so the models we get here in the US are usually a lot more powerful.
@@elnyoutube123 : INDEED! Just look up the number of people that have been killed with Airguns in the US ; or the number of deer that have been poached by them
Andy's correct about power. Might be best to think of it as applied energy (in ft/lbs or joules, pick your unit). As a retired Earth science teacher, if you need proof, consider this: in classical mechanics, kinetic energy (KE) is equal to half of an object's mass (1/2*m) multiplied by the velocity squared. For example, if a an object with a mass of 10 kg (m = 10 kg) is moving at a velocity of 5 meters per second (v = 5 m/s), the kinetic energy is equal to 125 Joules, or (1/2 * 10 kg) * 5 m/s2. Isn't math beautiful?
Anybody who buy's Co2 replica for power are clearly deluded, the replica is about the overall experience, history & realism & collectability, power should not even enter the equation as far as i'm concerned, great review as ever
.68 cal 12grams plastic and steel ball 30joul co2 Paintball pistol( home defense job done) Maybe you should do some videos on these they are air powered. Just to add thank you for all your videos they are fun and informative.
when ur life is seriously at risk and you can only buy a c02 pistol in ur country, who cares about the law. they won't even care to show up for my funeral.
Good video. You're all the way right. However respectfully, projectile speed IS he factor that would make a 7 grain pellet satisfactory for taking small game. The reason, which you did state, is sort of hidden in a lot of technical (and relevant) details. A 7 grain pellet shot from a fully pressurized PCP gun will dispatch a small game pest (even larger game such as coyotes) because that 7 grain pellet (or heavier projectile) is going significantly faster than that same 7 grain pellet shot from a CO2 gun. The problem for those of us (me included) who look for a CO2 gun for small game is that a CO2 power cartridge simply won't give the speed needed when shooting a pellet of sufficient weight to take down small game. That's because the CO2 cartridge doesn't contain enough pressure to give the speed necessary to give the pellet the power needed for dispatching small game. What does give the speed needed from a 7 grain pellet is a PCP gun because the air pressure present from a PCP will give the speed necessary to give the power necessary when a 7 grain pellet is shot from a PCP. We (they and I) desire the CO2 convenience of quickly dispatched multiple shots for taking small game pests. The pressure (speed) is missing with a CO2 gun and the convenience is missing with PCP. We just don't want the inconvenience and extra expenses required to get the power given by PCP. I understand the power limitations imposed by your laws. My comment is just saying the same thing but just in a different (maybe simpler) way. I wonder if there's some middle ground for air pressure, speed, weight etc that's somewhere between CO2 and PCP that would give adequate accuracy for pellet guns / BB guns for taking pestersome and sometimes vandalizing animals like raccoons. Thanks for the helpful video.
I would like to see your 'take' on the Beretta 92 as I have been holding off until I can see a 'reputable' Reviewer do just this. You , Andy, are the one of a handful ( or less ) that I'd trust to do this kind of thourough review. Thanks for this one, and it does shed light on this topic, most admirably.
Hi Andy, i realy Like your Reviews very much. I love the calm and elegant kind of the english speech, paired with guns. That makes your Reviews to Something Special. Please keep up and do more of them.👍 Greetings from Germany🙂🇩🇪
ASG Steyr M9-A1 The fun of something that is powerful is being able to hit targets that are far away with force and to shoot straight through things and to see sparks and smoke when shooting at rocks. Steyr M9-A1 handle this, in addition, it is ergonomically superior, stylish to look at, small and extremely well made. I rejected and dismissed all of them on the table when I bought two M9-A1.
If the SHTF, you can't even hunt with them..? So, what is the most portable rifle might be the question...? Why are these Pistols even a thing? If they are so innaccurate are they any use for target shooting?
I have several air pistols, even at 5.5 ft lb none are particularly powerful. The nice looking replicas, at around 3ft lb couldn’t blow the skin off a rice pudding, as such don’t really serve any practical purpose.... in a home defence situation, of all the air or CO2 pistols I own, the Umarex HDR50 7.5 joules that fires 50 cal steel balls would be my first choice for a close quarters encounter. Whilst not strictly a pellet gun, or BB gun it has more punch than a weedy .177 replica. How about a review of the HDR 50 and the rest of the T4E range from Umarex?
Indeed, I think this is what the people sending messages to Andy were referring to. Any home invader would think twice about continuing an attack if they were hit by one of these co2 guns using the various hard projectiles you can use. Especially good in the UK as you can be pretty sure an attacker won’t have a real firearm, and if they do then what have you got to lose? Ask the attacker to wait an hour or two for the cops to show up? UK homes aren’t very big so being hit 6/8 metres away will make them more than say “ouch”! They have quick release co2 systems so you can have it ready in seconds with a fresh co2 cartridge for maximum impact. As they are sold as paint ball markers you can even order online and have delivered through the post, no going down the RFD shop to collect. Surprising really considering they are not allowed at most paintball places as they are far too powerful to be allowed in the games!
@@andywing8330 Makes me laugh all the UK laws for guns, specifically airguns. So if you want something with a little more kick, don't look for air pistol, look for paint ball markers. 😂😂😂. Got the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver. Waiting for the HDS 68 Shotgun to be back in stock. 👍😊👍
i have a .177 Ruger Blackhawk that is "lethal" up to 1800 feet, ive shot threw thin steel and killed small game with it, i think this is also a great non gun for self defense option even though its break barrel.. i cant own a gun tho lol im 16
I looked around for the ultimate CO2 pistol, all things considered: PX4 Storm (pellet) is the best. ~2.5ft-lbs / 3 joules / 420+fps, 8+8 dualmag with blowback and double/single action trigger. With a fresh cartridge (that can be housed before loading with just a simple twist of the pistol butt clasp) it has a lovely powerful stinging kick to it. Definately recommended. Here in the UK if you want power without a FAC, get a crossbow, good ones are very cheap and >90ft-lbs!
Look for paint ball markers mate. Got more kick, lots of ammo types. And best of all they can be delivered straight to your house. Example the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver or the HDR 50 cal pistol.
Thanks for the TECHNICAL explanation of speed versus power. One thing that should be addressed for those concerned about the PRACTICAL aspect is the ability of specific cloth/fur to prevent/reflect the objects [pellets/steel-BBs/plastic-BBs] at specified jouled guns.
Hi Andy, hope you are well. I've been binge watching your videos, especially pistol reviews. Very helpful indeed. Just a quick suggestion if I may (on the very slight off-chance you hadn't thought of it already): In the playlist section of your channel, would you possibly consider setting up a couple of categories such as 'Pistols' & 'Rifles'? That is, if you get 5 mins.
Nice to see you using a skan chrono, best in the business they are, can't say that about the old take downs they used to make though lol, they were a right headache. Great video, and very interesting and informative👍.
Grain wt. Is what give you fpe , the 1911 45 only travel at 980 gps but has a lot of knock down power . So a fat heavy bullet is the power you need and a heavy bullet is better in high wind
Does ANYONE know why air rifles are usually just under the 12ft lb legal limit, but practically all air pistols are no where near the legal limit of 6ft lb? Thanks.
Very informative, but if you do get the time an accuracy test would be nice as well. Thank you. Among my collection I have one of the German made CP88's with the 8 shot metal rotary clips and the weight 1to1 ratio of weight to the actual P88 definitely adds to the experience and it loves these "HANDLER & NATERMANN" field and target domed, they are a lighter pellet and give more of a popping sound when leaving the barrel also quite accurate. 👍😎👍
Hang a bath towel on a towel rack with a box below it. Tape some wash rags at the middle. There's your indoor BB catcher. At ten feet, you can learn to shoot like James Bond.
Why is there a summer view through your window Andy?? Lol. I've got the CP88. It's the best one I've ever had! Realistically ALL CO2 pistols are for a bit of backyard plinking.. and that's about all!! Can you do some "retro," reviews?? I've got a Logun s16s.. not a lot of info out there!
_This video is specifically for people who’s thinking about purchasing defensive weapons that can be used at a certain distance for the first time and thinking about using a BB gun for that. Well I can tell you from experience I can definitely say that. Yes you can use a BB gun for self-defense._ _I defended myself against someone that tried to rob me with a knife, I shot seven pallets into his face and throat, my attacker lost his eye, and he almost died to fatal wounds to his jugular and windpipe of his throat_ _The BB pistol that I had used what is the Glock 19 X using steel BBs, I will suggest do not purchase plastic BBs they would only break the skin instead of penetrating the skin, Metal BBs have a greater velocity than plastic. BBs, at greater distances plastic BBs are subject to wind speeds, and resistance._
I'd like to see you do a video like this but seeking the most accurate instead of speed/power. Preferably pellet pistols only in Co2, hand pump or springer. Trigger pull and accuracy are most likely going to be related. If I'm going to be using a pistol like this, my preference would be that it actually helps with accuracy training. Without helping in that category, it's pretty much a complete waste of time, IMHO. In other words, if you are just spraying pellets in the general direction of a target and hoping for the best, well, it really leaves a lot to be desired. I have a nice Huben GK1 for the majority of time, but I'm not going to take that one on a canoe/camping trip down the river. That's where one of these Co2 pistol would be a ton-o-fun. But a 12 lb. 3 inch trigger pull would definitely rain on that parade. Is there a decent trigger pull in this pistol category?
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There are very few of your videos I haven't watched, and a common theme is the filler gauge at the end of the cylinder in-line with the barrel. Quite a while ago, it occurred to me that a simple idea to nullify this possible danger point is a spirit bottle top or similar that would fit over the moderator with a penny glued to the inside of the top. Two holes drilled through the sides of the top to house strong elastic or cord retained on any appropriate site, i.e.scope mount. Just an idea, Michael.
I get 90’s tv vibes from your videos, your presenting style is awesome.
I would say that anyone getting hit in the face with any of those close range is going to have a bad day.
Your gonna have a worse day if you pull that little boy stunt on someone with a real gun
@@DiegoRomer0 I seriously doubt if I hit you in the face with 20 gold flights you'll try to pull your gun! No you will be in severe pain and will be trying to get somewhere. You're going to need those gold flights surgically removed from your face!
@@DiegoRomer0 lmfao if you can see or move after those rounds enter your body. You think just bc you have a real gun that it’ll help but if those pellets get stuck in your forearm how you finna shoot🤡and I’m talking .177 not no petty bbs
@@toxicity6629 yeah, these pellets can really mess you up if used correctly.
Exactly!!
You need to iron your back ground.
Haha I didn't notice that lol, what a trip! :D
Great observation/comment. Who da thought! 😂
Your pistol reviews are always enjoyable! Thanks again Professor Andy!
Steyr M9 A1 4.5mm steel BB is a beast tbh at 3.3 joules and 450 fps it dispatches snakes easily.
Great channel Andy, watch it religiously.
All the best from Portugal
With CO2, the bigger the calibre, the greater the efficiency. This is because CO2 has a fixed pressure at a given temperature, so the only way to extract more force from it is to increase the bore diameter ( force equals pressure times surface area). I have no idea why replica pistols, especially revolvers, aren't available in .22, since the larger calibre would produce 50% more power with no other changes to the gun. I made a .22 barrel insert for my old S&W 586 CO2 revolver and gained about 40% extra muzzle energy with no other changes to the gun.
>I made a .22 barrel insert for my old S&W 586 CO2 revolver
How did you go about doing that? I might be interested in replicating what you've done.
@@3dtom Hi, it was fairly simple but does require a lathe. First remove the original barrel liner which is "stretched" between the frame and the outer barrel at the muzzle. I cut a 7/32 (0.21875") ID tube to the same length as the 4.5 mm barrel insert and threaded both ends on the outside diameter to match the original barrel liner. I believe the pitch is M10 fine (i.e. 10 mm x 1 mm pitch). Mine was just a smoothbore tube but a length of old .22 airgun barrel would have been much better. The OD has to be machined down to 10 mm. The velocity drops slightly compared to the 4.5 mm barrel but the 5.5 mm pellet is almost twice as heavy, and energy goes up at least 40%.
@@3dtom Of course you will also have to bore out the magazines with a 7/32 drill!
@@Ijusthopeitsquick Thanks for all the helpful info! I'm definitely going to try this out.
How did you measure the extra muzzle energy?
I own a busy pest control company. For indoor use we use the 1377 as it can be controlled to not destroy the fixtures and fittings within an expensive hotel.
We also use the SMK pp700 pistols for small pests outside in yards and sometimes in cellars with lasers attached.
We use crosman 2240s for roofspaces where we find pigeons and rats.
We use the Alecto for inside premises due to its power differences. So lower power for rats inside a kitchen where pellets can rebound.
We use rifles such as the Kral np02 or FX verminators for rats around farms.
We have many other set ups as well. My advice is that one pistol will never do all, choose the best pistol or rifle for the job and Always, plan your jobs beforehand for any pest controlling. Good luck
Thanks AAR great reviews again, let me know if you want any more comments from a pest control perspective
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Take a look at the Umarex T4E CO2 pistols. A fair bit more punch than what you had on the table, and a much wider range of ammo can be used, from paintballs, hard rubber balls, & even up to steel ball bearings for close range. Available in .43, .50, & .68 cal
Available in the UK, even delivered to your door as classed as paintball markers, but not allowed at most paintball places as way too powerful!
These are marketed as “less than lethal” home protection in many countries!
I’d like to see a video on the t4e too, I think the TPM1 would go with his collection quite nicely
@@alex-yy9tk there is a few videos on TH-cam.
Also videos on how to tune up their power. 👍
Nice review as usual. I would have mentioned the Artemis CP2 (co2 powered, pellets) which you reviewed in the past since it achieves 7.5 Joules of energy and it has good accuracy for a co2 pistol.
It's a lovely gun for the price. And it comes with a silencer and a carbine conversion kit in the box.
I had a 22 caliber CO2 pistol.
It was a Berretta look-alike.
I don't recall if it was Daisey or Crossman. .it had a six round magazine.
I caught a big rat on a glue board in a warehouse. I shot the rat with a Crossman domed pellet.
The pellet went through the rat, through the glue board, hit the concrete floor, bounced up and through one side of a cardboard box and down the other end of the warehouse.
I was highly impressed with the power and penetration I got with a fresh CO2 cartridge and the 22 caliber pellet. Unfortunately the gun didn't hold up well and leaked gas after a few months.
wich pistol?
@@juan180p Sorry, i don't recall the maker. It was a berretta 92 look-alike.
Yea you can't leave them charged breaks the seal after a while
Thats why CO2 sucks
You can get the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver in the UK,
7.5 joules.
Runs on co2 capsules.
yes, but it is not a pellet or bb loaded, it's T4E model, caliber .50
@@martins.7021 Then the title should be changed to Co2 BB and pellet pistol power.
The T4E is a pistol and it runs on Co2.
Very professional and TV quality reviews. Great presentation skills and presence in videos. I’ve been watching for a few months now. You could have your own TV show, something like How 2 that aired in the 90s. If I were a TV producer, I’d want you to present my shows. You also remind me of a few cool famous people. A bit of Bricktop from Snatch, Clint Eastwood and when you talk Maths, like FPS, joules, foot pounds, you remind me a little of Carole Vorderman. The way in which you construct and enunciate your sentences. Even if I wasn’t interested in Air Guns, I’d find your reviews very entertaining, educational and interesting. Thank you for your reviews. Do you have Twitter?
This is an "It".
Got know clue what he is babbling about.
Brilliant job Andy!
Loved the 'Towel' analogy!!!!!!!!!!
We are really fortunate to have such a fantastic range of CO2 pistols to choose from - especially as their low power levels allow them to be used in relatively small spaces in these restrictive times.
Their true value and purpose is pure shooting enjoyment.
Shooting CO2 pistols at any living thing, is nothing short of reckless and irresponsible. Great that you expressed this, but it would be ideal if all of the manufacturers printed this fact clearly on the packaging.
Roll on next Friday matey!
In my personal experience a co2 pistol actually works great for small garden snakes. They're usually lighter than the real thing so you can easily carry your replica as well as your self defense pistol and yeah when you're right on top of them you can get pretty easy headshots.
Why would you shoot garden snakes? They’re not pests
Nobody wants snakes especially with pets around. Kill those damn things!
So glad I live in the USA… even our air guns have more freedom.. for now at least..
Exactly 😆 these numbers hes doing are WAY less..
Way more important are the questions about:
1. The best trajectory in the available range (5-10 meters for an appartment and a bit more for a house)
2. Resistance to the wind and other factors (for shooting outside).
3. Noise level for shooting inside.
4. Ricochet and ability to damage walls and stuff inside.
This made me reflect on my choices. Awesome video
Although revolvers don't lose air in a blow back you have to factor in the CO2 which will be lost in the cylinder/barrel gap.
Seeing as the gas is already out of the cartridge the losses from poor sealage would only affect projectile nrg.
Great informative video again there Andy As we are talking about power, the Crosman 2240 is a powerhouse for a co2 pistol, at around 5.5ftlbs and a good close quarters (10metre) vermin gun and cheap at £80 as well and built like a tank. I would recommend the crosman 1377 and 1322 multipumps over the Strikepoint but i may be biased as i own both but they are both more powerful than the Strikepoint and they are unbelievably customisable and modifiable to the shooters tastes. The Strikepoint has a bit too much plastic or ballistic polymer as they like to refer to it these days but then again i own the Webley Alecto MK3 and the nearly the whole of the frame is ballistic polymer and is powerful at 5.7ftlbs. I own the Hatsan Supercharger. 177 and it runs at 5.6ftlbs which is more powerful than the Weirauch HW45, and the HW45 is more than double the price of the Hatsan Supercharger as well. All the best from lancashire.
I didn't know those were legal in the UK. Do they make you get some kind of license or something?
The next time I tune in.. I fully expect you to explain the meaning of life. You are rather thorough! Love it!
You beat this topic like a rented mule. Did you ever get beyond muzzle energy and touch on down range energy? LOL.
You could have tried the SMK CP1 co2 pistol, 9 shot magazine , over 5ftlb of power and accurate. It’s also available for £110.
Excellent comparisons, and it really does show you need to experiment to find the sweet spot for each replica. I'd be interested in an accuracy test, especially for the plastic blaster BBs, as the only thing putting me off buying BB replicas is the ricochet risk, so blasters or dust devils would be my choice _if_ they are accurate enough. I imagine those plastic BBs could go a bit squirly at higher fps, so would love to see some target work.
Greetings from across the pond in Tennessee. Another good one Andy I always enjoy your reviews. Hope all is well there keep them coming.
Thank you, Sir. I enjoyed the tour of guns most in this video. The stream of numbers was a little hard to deal with because, after a few guns and projectiles, the numbers roll over faster than I can retain. You made your point about the inverse relationship of speed and power, but the point will be more intuitive if you show graphs. The graphics would ease the work on my brain for buffering numbers and making comparisons.
Your channel is very helpful to me and I'm very glad for your contributions.
I hope you read these. I did something that may have made my pellet pistol possibly deadly. That i would like to see you test and experiment with. I took gamo fast flight penetrator pellets the red ones and drilled a small hole through the back of them in order to push out the metal point inside of the plastic sleeve. Then took a dremmel and grinded down the back of the metal point in order to make it shorter and then put the metal point back inside the plastic sleeve by simply pressing them in with pliers. This makes the pellets able to fit in my pellet pistol without any jamming and i am able to shoot throught multiple layers of cloth from a few yards away and straight through ply wood
That ammo is amazing and works on small pests quite well..
Long Range accuracy doesn’t matter in self defense situations. Self defense situations are pretty much always close quarter situations happening within a range of 1 to 2 meters.
A airgun that blasts completely through a can within 5 to 6 meters does make the needed damage and penetrates skin and flesh.
A airgun revolver like a single action army has even more power. Diabolos can do severe damage. Especially hollow point ones.
Correct
In the States a Daisy 415 puts out steel .177 bb's at 470 fps as measured on my chronograph. $ 30.00 US . Not legal in Canada or the UK. Bummer for you guys.
Co2 that give out more than 2 joules have be licensed in N.IRELAND,I can't even buy a pump old daisy .177
The whip analogy I think falls off a bit when you consider that the piece of fabric cracking at the speed of sound will not only sting but cut you like a razor
That Beretta has a nice long barrel, hence the better power and accuracy....I love my umarex 92 and the colt 1911. They are the two most accurate co2s I own.
Spot on review of these amazing pistols,
Length of barrel and weight of pellets along with non blowback contributes significantly to the overall performance of the pistol.
I have the Barra Schofield and the Colt Peacemaker along with the Remington 1875 which are all Co2 and fire pellets from the rear of the pistol.
Having a rifled barrel can also increase the accuracy of the pistol.
I want to buy my first blowback co2 pistol but am not sure what to go for. The most important thing is for it to be powerful. Any recommendations?
Same here.
Have you purchased one yet?
I'm looking at the gamo p25
@@monterodelgado2577 sorry for the late reply. I haven’t got one yet - I sort of forgot about it. I think that powerful co2 pistols aren’t really a thing. I was gonna go for a glock 17 gen 4 as they look really fun and are relatively powerful (for a co2 blowback). Good luck with whatever you decide and I’m sorry that I can’t be of more use.
I have known several people Who have saved their lives in situations by using or merely brandishing a Co2 pistol. Shot placement. Energy . And shot capacity . I have found that the Daisy 426 , 415, and 5170 are best for this sort of thing ; the Crosman Vigilante , Crosman SNR , and GAMO P25 also have worked wonders . I am from Texas ( Where Fire Arms are extensions of Our Cultural Freedom) but Air Guns are still respected. and used for self defense by people of all walks of life due to personal restrictions or restricted areas where fire arms are not allowed ; then there are those Who simply do not like fire arms but want “ Something” for protection . Many of My friends and relatives keep a GAMO Swarm .22 caliber for home defense and a Co2 pistol upon their person when taking a walk in the park.
This!!! He doesn't mention in the video how harmful pointed pellets can be and they also have limits in the UK on how strong a C02 gun can be so the models we get here in the US are usually a lot more powerful.
@@elnyoutube123 : INDEED! Just look up the number of people that have been killed with Airguns in the US ; or the number of deer that have been poached by them
Andy's correct about power. Might be best to think of it as applied energy (in ft/lbs or joules, pick your unit). As a retired Earth science teacher, if you need proof, consider this: in classical mechanics, kinetic energy (KE) is equal to half of an object's mass (1/2*m) multiplied by the velocity squared. For example, if a an object with a mass of 10 kg (m = 10 kg) is moving at a velocity of 5 meters per second (v = 5 m/s), the kinetic energy is equal to 125 Joules, or (1/2 * 10 kg) * 5 m/s2. Isn't math beautiful?
Love how you deliver. Feel like I'm watching the discovery channel!
Never heard of that Strike Point gun before. Looks interesting (and cheap!). Great video as always Andy!
Easy.before shootin carry co2 canisters in your pocket.leave time gap intervals while shooting.you will get serious speed enhance ment for sure.
You could have tried out the Gamo P-430 BB/pellet CO2 pistol. It has a 495 FPS velocity with alloy pellets.
If aimed in the neck area, it should certainly stun the aggressor enough to take control of the situation.
Anybody who buy's Co2 replica for power are clearly deluded, the replica is about the overall experience, history & realism & collectability, power should not even enter the equation as far as i'm concerned, great review as ever
I love your British manner of speaking!
You have a good voice for children's TV..
.68 cal 12grams plastic and steel ball 30joul co2 Paintball pistol( home defense job done) Maybe you should do some videos on these they are air powered. Just to add thank you for all your videos they are fun and informative.
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Well done from across the pond! Great review.
This guy has the best analogies
when ur life is seriously at risk and you can only buy a c02 pistol in ur country, who cares about the law. they won't even care to show up for my funeral.
Oh my word...I loved them all! Big fan of these guns! You lucky boy!
Love the tea towel analogy
Good video. You're all the way right. However respectfully, projectile speed IS he factor that would make a 7 grain pellet satisfactory for taking small game. The reason, which you did state, is sort of hidden in a lot of technical (and relevant) details. A 7 grain pellet shot from a fully pressurized PCP gun will dispatch a small game pest (even larger game such as coyotes) because that 7 grain pellet (or heavier projectile) is going significantly faster than that same 7 grain pellet shot from a CO2 gun.
The problem for those of us (me included) who look for a CO2 gun for small game is that a CO2 power cartridge simply won't give the speed needed when shooting a pellet of sufficient weight to take down small game. That's because the CO2 cartridge doesn't contain enough pressure to give the speed necessary to give the pellet the power needed for dispatching small game.
What does give the speed needed from a 7 grain pellet is a PCP gun because the air pressure present from a PCP will give the speed necessary to give the power necessary when a 7 grain pellet is shot from a PCP.
We (they and I) desire the CO2 convenience of quickly dispatched multiple shots for taking small game pests. The pressure (speed) is missing with a CO2 gun and the convenience is missing with PCP. We just don't want the inconvenience and extra expenses required to get the power given by PCP.
I understand the power limitations imposed by your laws. My comment is just saying the same thing but just in a different (maybe simpler) way.
I wonder if there's some middle ground for air pressure, speed, weight etc that's somewhere between CO2 and PCP that would give adequate accuracy for pellet guns / BB guns for taking pestersome and sometimes vandalizing animals like raccoons.
Thanks for the helpful video.
Best reviews on you tube👍
Cup of tea and a slice of toast morning World
My webley mk6 is a good little gun. Bought from guys at vector air.
If my life was genuinely in danger, whether I was breaking the law would be the last thing on my mind.
Wow, what a incredible in depth review, thanks
Absolutely brilliantly well put together video.....Answered every single question I've ever thought of and more....thank you
Did I hear right .UK law restrict us to 6 ,4 1bs. What gun is that ?
I would like to see your 'take' on the Beretta 92 as I have been holding off until I can see a 'reputable' Reviewer do just this. You , Andy, are the one of a handful ( or less ) that I'd
trust to do this kind of thourough review.
Thanks for this one, and it does shed light on this topic, most admirably.
Me too
Hi Andy, i realy Like your Reviews very much. I love the calm and elegant kind of the english speech, paired with guns. That makes your Reviews to Something Special. Please keep up and do more of them.👍
Greetings from Germany🙂🇩🇪
ASG Steyr M9-A1 The fun of something that is powerful is being able to hit targets that are far away with force and to shoot straight through things and to see sparks and smoke when shooting at rocks.
Steyr M9-A1 handle this, in addition, it is ergonomically superior, stylish to look at, small and extremely well made.
I rejected and dismissed all of them on the table when I bought two M9-A1.
If the SHTF, you can't even hunt with them..?
So, what is the most portable rifle might be the question...?
Why are these Pistols even a thing? If they are so innaccurate are they any use for target shooting?
Just got hit on the arse with a subscribe pellet... 😂 great channel...🏴👍
I have several air pistols, even at 5.5 ft lb none are particularly powerful. The nice looking replicas, at around 3ft lb couldn’t blow the skin off a rice pudding, as such don’t really serve any practical purpose.... in a home defence situation, of all the air or CO2 pistols I own, the Umarex HDR50 7.5 joules that fires 50 cal steel balls would be my first choice for a close quarters encounter. Whilst not strictly a pellet gun, or BB gun it has more punch than a weedy .177 replica. How about a review of the HDR 50 and the rest of the T4E range from Umarex?
Indeed, I think this is what the people sending messages to Andy were referring to. Any home invader would think twice about continuing an attack if they were hit by one of these co2 guns using the various hard projectiles you can use. Especially good in the UK as you can be pretty sure an attacker won’t have a real firearm, and if they do then what have you got to lose? Ask the attacker to wait an hour or two for the cops to show up?
UK homes aren’t very big so being hit 6/8 metres away will make them more than say “ouch”! They have quick release co2 systems so you can have it ready in seconds with a fresh co2 cartridge for maximum impact. As they are sold as paint ball markers you can even order online and have delivered through the post, no going down the RFD shop to collect. Surprising really considering they are not allowed at most paintball places as they are far too powerful to be allowed in the games!
@@andywing8330 Makes me laugh all the UK laws for guns, specifically airguns. So if you want something with a little more kick, don't look for air pistol, look for paint ball markers. 😂😂😂.
Got the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver.
Waiting for the HDS 68 Shotgun to be back in stock. 👍😊👍
Umarex hdr50
i have a .177 Ruger Blackhawk that is "lethal" up to 1800 feet, ive shot threw thin steel and killed small game with it, i think this is also a great non gun for self defense option even though its break barrel.. i cant own a gun tho lol im 16
Excellent analogy.
I looked around for the ultimate CO2 pistol, all things considered: PX4 Storm (pellet) is the best. ~2.5ft-lbs / 3 joules / 420+fps, 8+8 dualmag with blowback and double/single action trigger.
With a fresh cartridge (that can be housed before loading with just a simple twist of the pistol butt clasp) it has a lovely powerful stinging kick to it.
Definately recommended.
Here in the UK if you want power without a FAC, get a crossbow, good ones are very cheap and >90ft-lbs!
Look for paint ball markers mate.
Got more kick, lots of ammo types.
And best of all they can be delivered straight to your house.
Example the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver or the HDR 50 cal pistol.
@@AkiraHDR50 is this a good self defence pistol? Looking at getting something for the house incase of robbery etc
@@AS-rw5gz Get a big dog lol.
Where is the airguns for self defense video? I had seen it and loved the tests but I can't find it now. I love the videos Andy puts out.
Really enjoying the channel ,I've returned to Airsoft after 20 years and finding your content very helpful
Great video im a big fan or air pistols.
They have the power to make bad guys think twice. And if you have a full metal one and if you have to fight it's a good hammer.
Thanks for the TECHNICAL explanation of speed versus power.
One thing that should be addressed for those concerned about the PRACTICAL aspect is the ability of specific cloth/fur to prevent/reflect the objects [pellets/steel-BBs/plastic-BBs] at specified jouled guns.
Andy love you to review the umerex hdr 50 with rubber balls, great co2 review
Get Mrs AAR to test one out on him. Might stop him from saying they don't work. 😂😂😂
Defending yourself is a "law breaking situation" which is just terrible
Hi Andy, hope you are well. I've been binge watching your videos, especially pistol reviews. Very helpful indeed. Just a quick suggestion if I may (on the very slight off-chance you hadn't thought of it already): In the playlist section of your channel, would you possibly consider setting up a couple of categories such as 'Pistols' & 'Rifles'? That is, if you get 5 mins.
Crosman 1322. Try it with the 16.7 grain fast flight penetrators.
We don't shoot pellets across the pond. We shoot the CO2 capsule at the target 😁😁
sounds like a good idea
Excellent presentation! Brilliant!
Across the pond 😂 I love his way of speaking 😂😂😂
Thanks Andy, great review!
Nice to see you using a skan chrono, best in the business they are, can't say that about the old take downs they used to make though lol, they were a right headache.
Great video, and very interesting and informative👍.
Great review as ever Andy thanks again. 👍
WinGun 733 (Co2 Revolver Replica) can be upgraded to a maximum of 750 fps
Definitely going to try the rear loading cartridge.
The hw45 is the best air pistol I've ever owned, and I've been buying them for 30 yrs.
Great video... covered the subject exceptionally well
Love you videos. Greetings from America.
This channel is awesome, so well researched and explained, and oh so elegantly british 💪🏻❤🇬🇧👍🏻I have learned so much, keep up the excelent work! 👌🏻
nice review andy but i think your next review should be about airgun security mate
Ace! Thanks Andy👍
Grain wt. Is what give you fpe , the 1911 45 only travel at 980 gps but has a lot of knock down power . So a fat heavy bullet is the power you need and a heavy bullet is better in high wind
Does ANYONE know why air rifles are usually just under the 12ft lb legal limit, but practically all air pistols are no where near the legal limit of 6ft lb?
Thanks.
Great video, although I am left feeling this comparison was about the ammo types and not about the pistols.
Very informative, but if you do get the time an accuracy test would be nice as well. Thank you.
Among my collection I have one of the German made CP88's with the 8 shot metal rotary clips and the weight 1to1 ratio of weight to the actual P88 definitely adds to the experience and it loves these "HANDLER & NATERMANN" field and target domed, they are a lighter pellet and give more of a popping sound when leaving the barrel also quite accurate. 👍😎👍
Yeah. The CP88 is awesome. Very good trigger on it - even when shooting in double-action.
@@brorjordas1979 most definitely 👍
Basically, these are adult toys.And long may they stay like that!
Another great video Andy
Well done Andy, nicely balanced review as always.
Hang a bath towel on a towel rack with a box below it. Tape some wash rags at the middle. There's your indoor BB catcher.
At ten feet, you can learn to shoot like James Bond.
Why is there a summer view through your window Andy?? Lol.
I've got the CP88. It's the best one I've ever had! Realistically ALL CO2 pistols are for a bit of backyard plinking.. and that's about all!!
Can you do some "retro," reviews?? I've got a Logun s16s.. not a lot of info out there!
_This video is specifically for people who’s thinking about purchasing defensive weapons that can be used at a certain distance for the first time and thinking about using a BB gun for that. Well I can tell you from experience I can definitely say that. Yes you can use a BB gun for self-defense._
_I defended myself against someone that tried to rob me with a knife, I shot seven pallets into his face and throat, my attacker lost his eye, and he almost died to fatal wounds to his jugular and windpipe of his throat_
_The BB pistol that I had used what is the Glock 19 X using steel BBs, I will suggest do not purchase plastic BBs they would only break the skin instead of penetrating the skin, Metal BBs have a greater velocity than plastic. BBs, at greater distances plastic BBs are subject to wind speeds, and resistance._
The crosman vigilante puts out better numbers than any of those guns you reviewed.
I'd like to see you do a video like this but seeking the most accurate instead of speed/power. Preferably pellet pistols only in Co2, hand pump or springer. Trigger pull and accuracy are most likely going to be related. If I'm going to be using a pistol like this, my preference would be that it actually helps with accuracy training. Without helping in that category, it's pretty much a complete waste of time, IMHO. In other words, if you are just spraying pellets in the general direction of a target and hoping for the best, well, it really leaves a lot to be desired. I have a nice Huben GK1 for the majority of time, but I'm not going to take that one on a canoe/camping trip down the river. That's where one of these Co2 pistol would be a ton-o-fun. But a 12 lb. 3 inch trigger pull would definitely rain on that parade. Is there a decent trigger pull in this pistol category?