Prejudice, Colonialism, Kenya | High School Student Exchange (1954) | Ethiopia, India, Norway, UK

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
  • Participants: Bizuayehu Agonafir - Ethiopia, Nalini Nair - India, John Goulden - UK, Nils Roger Harboe - Norway.

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  • @mylifemyjourney1
    @mylifemyjourney1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11282

    India was colonized by British for long time, this is why the Indian girl is challenging the British guy in Kenya's independence because she has seen & heard the harsh treat of Indian people by the British. Proud of both girls for speaking out without fear against discrimination & racism.

    • @user-vs3sy7to5e
      @user-vs3sy7to5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      There was aleready racism and fuedalism in India before british colonism

    • @vamsikrishna4107
      @vamsikrishna4107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +479

      @@user-vs3sy7to5e which became worst with british the true racists of the world

    • @user-vs3sy7to5e
      @user-vs3sy7to5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@vamsikrishna4107 you Indians are true racists of the world you created caste system while europeans was just on white and black tell about you 6000 castes

    • @user-vs3sy7to5e
      @user-vs3sy7to5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Let me tell you there was some positive aspects too rather than kings rule you brits gave this world democracy and medium was colonisation

    • @gayatribhurguda5795
      @gayatribhurguda5795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +344

      @@user-vs3sy7to5e hahahhahaha get your facts checked again…. British created the divide and rule policy and that’s how they increased casteism here …. If you read the stories of ancient india you’ll not even see a pinch of casteism there🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @ks12253
    @ks12253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13036

    A brown Indian girl speaking about Kenya's independence shows that ppl can feel and understand the pains of others when they are suffering/suffered from the same pain.

    • @fightmeillblessuwithcandyb3707
      @fightmeillblessuwithcandyb3707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +416

      *Brown* 👀👀
      I would like the sentence more if it's *A Indian girl* itself only..

    • @someonejustsomeone1469
      @someonejustsomeone1469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@fightmeillblessuwithcandyb3707 why do Indians overuse the word "only" so much?

    • @mamtasingh82
      @mamtasingh82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      How come you saw colour?

    • @someonejustsomeone1469
      @someonejustsomeone1469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @avanii why not use the word "just" then? Would be more reasonable.

    • @senaeco
      @senaeco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@someonejustsomeone1469 Not all Indians, mostly south indians, even amongst them the ones more south. It is because of their native language perhaps. Or may be a more archaic english usage. Where Nalini is from it is a 400 year association with the Brits.

  • @mamtabiswas1825
    @mamtabiswas1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7290

    Guys do you realise this was just a mere 12 years after India's Independance? The wounds from colonies in India were still new and here we have Nalini, so calm and composed.

    • @Senator107
      @Senator107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I noticed that as well. Good point.

    • @abhinavaditya3516
      @abhinavaditya3516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Bruh people be really replying and writing a whole ass paragraph on the comment which was made 2 years ago I was so stupid to make that comment I have changed guys :)

    • @mamtabiswas1825
      @mamtabiswas1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

      @@abhinavaditya3516 the whole point of women empowerment is to not shame women for their choices, be it modest or skin showing.
      And I don't see you shaming other men and "heroes" who are always shirtless , so what are you even doing ?

    • @mamtabiswas1825
      @mamtabiswas1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@abhinavaditya3516 but yes if youre talking about intelligent thought and articulate speech and debate , then yes, Nalini does set a very good example

    • @abhinavaditya3516
      @abhinavaditya3516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@mamtabiswas1825 haha I don't have a problem with girls wearing short dresses or showing skin bcz IDC but yeah but I don't like how a lot of females claims that showing skin is the only way to show woman empowerment lmao(like you got triggered and wrote 2 whole paraphs on my stupid comment) and talking abt "shirtless guys" I don't see any shirtless guy or have ever heard of any shirtless guy being called a "hero" but yeah we do call them "chappri" and again she did a far great job than dancing for a reel both of your comments literally makes no sense and I agree I comment was stupid and I m sorry if I hurt your sentiments and you think its better to dance for a reel in short dress rather than doing something like Nalini, it's your opinion and I respect it :D

  • @Catyounot
    @Catyounot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1144

    UK, India, and Ethiopia in a serious debate
    Norway:👁👄👁

    • @senkkella7664
      @senkkella7664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Norway is a vibe

    • @Pablo-ni8cj
      @Pablo-ni8cj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      😂😂😂

    • @cerbzzz7147
      @cerbzzz7147 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Lmao fr what was he even doing there

    • @seewhativescene
      @seewhativescene ปีที่แล้ว

      Norway was an active participant in slave trade to the Caribbean @@senkkella7664

    • @seewhativescene
      @seewhativescene ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd ask you the same, but you'd probably just laugh again @@cerbzzz7147

  • @potato_singz
    @potato_singz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7191

    When Nalini asked John why the Brits weren't giving independence to Kenya I was shook! Its interesting seeing this!

    • @djneil4135
      @djneil4135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      We Indians have eyes on all the happenings of the World sincerely since ages

    • @dev_peace_soul
      @dev_peace_soul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@djneil4135 till now also
      Tibet,hongkong and many more ............👀🤫

    • @jaybell1390
      @jaybell1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@djneil4135WTF! "Sincerely"..... No Stop Lying bhai!

    • @candiceruth10
      @candiceruth10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      How he just kept giving lame excuses about how Kenya was not ready for independence. I would ask who are you to decide who should be independent and not? And how the hell was he setting criteria on what basis they will get independence only if they fulfilled certain criteria, who the hell are you to set the criteria for another nation, another country?

    • @britishpatriot7446
      @britishpatriot7446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@candiceruth10 Most African nations were much better off under European rule hence why they all want to move to Europe now 😏

  • @Ujulu17
    @Ujulu17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5064

    The Indian girl’s smile is dangerous 😍 she’s my hero and I’m proud of the Ethiopian girl too, she’s the only Ethiopian that represented Ethiopia with honor and dignity in these series.

    • @djm4854
      @djm4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      I know what you mean. The UK boy tried to say that if a person knew a lot about a subject, they couldn't be prejudiced. Ethiopian girl argued that one could nevertheless be prejudiced in subjects they don't know much about.
      Translation: UK boy felt he could be educated about everything and avoid prejudice.
      Ethiopian girl educates him about the fact that you can't know everything, so come down from that high horse. QUEEN. lol

    • @jaybell1390
      @jaybell1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@djm4854 yup! Without Any BLM in sight!

    • @heartcutee5446
      @heartcutee5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yehh ❤️🙌

    • @DjinnandTonik
      @DjinnandTonik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jaybell1390 Wtf are you talking about fool

    • @sra_the_librarian
      @sra_the_librarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Haven’t seen the whole series but there was another Ethiopian girl who did a wonderful job. She was thoughtful but also stood her ground. Wish I could remember her name.

  • @luxe7376
    @luxe7376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1921

    I'm in awe of Nilini, she is arguing without aggression, hate or contempt

    • @Senator107
      @Senator107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Something we don't see nowadays.

    • @i.i1215
      @i.i1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      This idea that you’re not allowed to show emotion whilst arguing is very weird. Emotionally intelligence is very important

    • @plutopian9059
      @plutopian9059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@i.i1215 thank you for this. arguing with emotion just shows your undeniable passion. i don’t see why she couldn’t have expressed a little bit of emotion.

    • @sikandarsahib7004
      @sikandarsahib7004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and without knowledge

    • @purplelight7460
      @purplelight7460 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sikandarsahib7004 lol u do knw that this was just 12 yrs after Indian independence

  • @SuraDoes
    @SuraDoes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3139

    The boy representing the UK is exactly what the Norwegian boy was talking about. The man who believes he is not prejudiced but is in fact the most prejudiced. The condescending tone of the Brit was disgusting. Education means nothing without manners, patience and class.

    • @nowayjose2001
      @nowayjose2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      thats a great point

    • @Nathalie5
      @Nathalie5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      YESSS! He literally contradicted himself on “reasons” about why the Kenya people were not given there independence.

    • @purplelove3666
      @purplelove3666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      And some people think education automatically comes with manners and class.

    • @sheebagr9702
      @sheebagr9702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do Britishers have the right to judge if other ppl are ready for independence?Who gave them the right?
      For their kind Information: Indus Valey Civilization is one of the oldest and most robust. They were the richest economy for Ages. Do Britishers want to teach them how to govern ... this statement is clearly a mask to gain time to drain more wealth.
      Have the imperealists really governed the people.. ??
      Governing is making lives of population better, improving the economy.But what has happened ?How were people treated ? What had happened to their economies.? What had happened to their natural resources? Who gave Britisgers to rule a whole continent of America with such large land and water and other resources just because they went there and removed native population?
      The rulers of native countries then were very hospitable to the travellers from imperialist countries and gave them some rights which later were misused to drain wealth from host and weakening them . The industrial revolution with mordern weapons added to the sorrows and aided in wiping away the wealth, natural and human resources.
      Development in Science is agood thing but what is more important is for what purpose you use it? History of colonialism, and slavery is an example of how it shouldn't be used. Racism is also a adverse byproduct of colonialism.

    • @quigz791
      @quigz791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      i agree the tone and the way he said stuuf was wrong, but what he was acctualy saying was facts and you cant deny that.

  • @amysanchez3699
    @amysanchez3699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3984

    Shocking anyone would steal someone's country then say the owners of that country weren't ready to have it back yet!
    "I have stolen your car."
    "What?! Give it back now!"
    "I'll give it back in ten years. I just... Don't trust you behind the wheel."
    "But it's MY car! I bought it!"
    "I've been filling it with gas and changed the tires so I think you'll find you're indebted to me, now"
    "But I NEVER gave you permission!"
    "Yet I still have your car"🤔

    • @alhajiabdulaiseidu4468
      @alhajiabdulaiseidu4468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @CL Wil Exactly and he is so blinded to the extent that he doesn't even know what his comments are damaging as a human being

    • @jarazy1232
      @jarazy1232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Great analogy

    • @kingabstract2695
      @kingabstract2695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      It shows the colonizer's way of thinking.

    • @ornellasigning124
      @ornellasigning124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Exactly

    • @MrSilverPants68
      @MrSilverPants68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Welllll no. A more accurate analogy would be someone having a car that they’ve crashed, being taken away from them and repaired then saying you can only have it back once you learn to drive.

  • @rini9325
    @rini9325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4934

    loved how Ethiopia and India ganged up against UK. I think my favourite part of this debate is how johnny assumes education is something american/ european and can only be attained via western knowledge(it's part of the fact that he thinks everything british is the best and other countries need fixing to fit a british standard of what is acceptable)It's a fact that India was rich in scientific knowledge AND is one of the earliest regions to have educational insituitions. Although I am not flat out saying he is completely wrong, he made some good points.

    • @user-vs3sy7to5e
      @user-vs3sy7to5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They havnt ganged up they showed their weakness

    • @mbangroo
      @mbangroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@user-vs3sy7to5e stfu josh, are you the johnny ha?

    • @user-vs3sy7to5e
      @user-vs3sy7to5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mbangroo i m your dad child

    • @infinite5795
      @infinite5795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@user-vs3sy7to5e yes, u aren't ur dad's child, u just misspelled that.

    • @user-vs3sy7to5e
      @user-vs3sy7to5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@infinite5795 why are you so scared Indian

  • @prateek5286
    @prateek5286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2465

    Why does everyone in this debate assume that colony natives weren't educated at all before colonization? Wasn't India part of the global trade before Europeans found a sea route to India. If it wasn't their way, it isn't right way. How shallow is it becoming?

    • @Vedangi_
      @Vedangi_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Salut🙌

    • @mbangroo
      @mbangroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      There was already a widespread education system in India called gurukul.

    • @prateek5286
      @prateek5286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mbangroo not exclusively that

    • @vivashvanbhushan3422
      @vivashvanbhushan3422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      @@mbangroo yes. First they dismantled the gurukul system and then forced the Catholic school and then calling Indians illiterate.

    • @dmaya9212
      @dmaya9212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      India was way advanced then these so called "civilized" countries who colonized other countries

  • @Evie_ch
    @Evie_ch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    As a Kenyan, this was very triggering to watch! I can't believe that this was the mindset of the British as to why they wouldn't free my country. I can't believe they made it seem like we didn't want our freedom. My grandma still tells me about the war to independence and how it traumatized families like hers, when her sister was killed in front of her; and she was just a kid. I don't think I have the strength in me to finish the video. This is just sad

    • @ajibola-johnsonboladale2654
      @ajibola-johnsonboladale2654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I’m Nigerian and i feel your pain
      Stay strong

    • @vanbeet5105
      @vanbeet5105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm Kenyan too, and i'm just boiling with disgust watching this. Mungu anisaidie niwe na roho ya kusamehe, sababu mimi siwezi samehe mtu kama huyu

    • @freedomm
      @freedomm ปีที่แล้ว +26

      As a Kenyan 🇰🇪 I honestly couldn't finish the video. My blood was boiling. I appreciate the Ethiopian and Indian girls.

    • @animika935
      @animika935 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      i'm not kenyan (im indian) but thank you for sharing with us. my heart goes out to you, have strength friend

    • @Future88746
      @Future88746 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They pretended not to know that we didn't want freedom, didn't they see Kenyans fight for it to death?

  • @sujanrai4957
    @sujanrai4957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6432

    Why no one is talking about Indian girl? She’s very well articulated and knowledgeable.

    • @george4281
      @george4281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      she's smart and has a great personality too

    • @hermonghebresslasie3198
      @hermonghebresslasie3198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      She had the knowledge but was weaker at expressing it. Indians r one of the intelligent people on earth but they didnt get lucky with the accent

    • @vishalrai4307
      @vishalrai4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because they u india and India's capabilities t

    • @komi-creative
      @komi-creative 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      @@hermonghebresslasie3198 Well the English accent speaking Hindi is also unfortunate sounding...

    • @hermonghebresslasie3198
      @hermonghebresslasie3198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@komi-creative true but Hindu is not an international language

  • @temesgenMA2023
    @temesgenMA2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1569

    The Ethiopian girl is so exceptional and she is worthy of my profound appreciation. I found out that she is now 78 and serving as a Cardiologist in California, USA

  • @777mehak
    @777mehak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +709

    As an indian, I’m very proud pf her. She was so articulate with her approach and well versed with the subject. It pained me to see how we shared the same pain with kenya and their struggle for freedom, and I’m glad she brought it up. Amazing video.

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A man from Goa, India fought for independence for Kenya. He was assassinated. His name was Pio DaGama Pinto.

    • @dm_1236
      @dm_1236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except her diluting the prejudice of the caste system. It’s still very much alive in India where the upper castes oppress the lower castes. Not to mention Indias colonization of Kashmir and oppression of religious minorities…

    • @surendr3645
      @surendr3645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dm_1236 Kashmir acceded to India so its not colonisation. Pakistan invaded Kashmir and is still holding on to part of Kashmir.

    • @Solosational
      @Solosational ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@dm_1236 LMAO...She didn't. She literally mentioned it in the first answer itself.

  • @ankitapoddar6200
    @ankitapoddar6200 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Nalini is so intellectual, she doesn't need to raise her voice to raise a point . She does it so gracefully I love it

  • @piyushpranav4028
    @piyushpranav4028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2079

    The Indian girl... I'm in love with her.
    Beauty with brain... She would be my grandma's age by now.

    • @musiclover7778
      @musiclover7778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      She died 10 years ago!! But yep she would have been our grandma's age

    • @kookie2190
      @kookie2190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@musiclover7778 how do u know that

    • @musiclover7778
      @musiclover7778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      @@kookie2190 after this interview she studied in Columbia University in USA then she returned to India joined civil service and married a diplomat!! She died in 2011 there is a video about it in youtube!!

    • @kookie2190
      @kookie2190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@musiclover7778 thanks 4 the news buddy

    • @vanihari7432
      @vanihari7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@musiclover7778 can u share that link

  • @vishwaswaroopa1634
    @vishwaswaroopa1634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +954

    Indian girl was so clever and well articulated ! Her points were so up to mark !!!

    • @abhinavaditya3516
      @abhinavaditya3516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      his is what you call woman empowerment look how elegant she is looking but aaj kal to reels pr adhe kpde pehen kar nachna woman empowerment hai 😓😓

    • @lakshmir2409
      @lakshmir2409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@abhinavaditya3516 um I think women empowerment is just letting women do what they want. So if these women aaj kal kapde pehenkar naachna hai tho , why do u care? It’s their business, who are you to judge them? Not every girl is interested is debating. Not every person is interested in the same topic.

    • @emmahollow8898
      @emmahollow8898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abhinavaditya3516 are you speaking English. Your comment makes no sense.

    • @simulationswarm
      @simulationswarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@emmahollow8898 it's hindi, sit down

    • @avinasharcoteshwaran9506
      @avinasharcoteshwaran9506 ปีที่แล้ว

      @iamricherthanadaniandambani What??? Are people like you for real? Hindi is not a "Pakistani language"! You must be joking right?? 🤣🤣
      But Listen !! Hindi, and even Urdu are very much languages of Bharat, that originated in India (that is Bharat!) The Pakistanis are just speaking one of the Indian languages! I don't seriously understand what makes you guys hate a language spoken and understood by the vast majority of Indians (which is Hindi) ! Hindi is the most ideal "link language" amongst the Indian masses! You might get piles but let's face this reality! You people have this separatist mindset! Bharat is sick and tired of people like you! Atleast speak with facts even if separatism is your only motive! Seriously "God" bless Bharat from separatists like you!!

  • @SuraDoes
    @SuraDoes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Bizu and Nalini are too honest and pure for this program. Even the host was attempting to set them up with those questions, but they handled themselves gracefully.

  • @Vedangi_
    @Vedangi_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    I really love the fact that Nalini Nair looks like a combination of Lata Mangeshkar and Sarojini Naidu ❤️❤️❤️

  • @dorisbeckman9847
    @dorisbeckman9847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1113

    The india girl charm me with her smile..her eyes❤

    • @suntzu2204
      @suntzu2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I agree. So innocent and beautiful.

    • @insanelyawesam1420
      @insanelyawesam1420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Right?! Such an addicting smile.

    • @Solosational
      @Solosational 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Haha....classic beauty of Kerala ❤️

    • @Ds-yy5or
      @Ds-yy5or 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      South Indians are a balance of beauty and intellect

    • @sadhvika1587
      @sadhvika1587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Ds-yy5or I'm a south indian but sadly not this 🥲😂

  • @TheSuperZufan
    @TheSuperZufan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1990

    White supremacy had the British boy thinking that that British culture is “higher” than Kenyan culture. This attitude still exists today. So proud of the Ethiopian girl who pointed out the deep racism that exists both in England and America...and the great hypocrisy that exists in both nations that say they’re democratic nations.

    • @Komnenos83
      @Komnenos83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lol both england and usa are MUCH less racist than places like Kenya or India. in fact, uk and us are literally one of the most tolerant nations in the entire world.

    • @alaaye5237
      @alaaye5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@Komnenos83
      That's a funny joke lol

    • @harvydent4157
      @harvydent4157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Komnenos83 keep tellin yourself that

    • @kimjisooismyultbias4eva585
      @kimjisooismyultbias4eva585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Komnenos83 pfft is that why people are storming the capitol and taking part in the blm movements, i don't see any major civil issues happening in those countries

    • @lizakey4730
      @lizakey4730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UK isn't democratic they are a monarchy, also Kenya and India had problems long before the white man ever showed up.

  • @freedomm
    @freedomm ปีที่แล้ว +190

    So depressing to watch this and come to the realisation the world hasn't changed much. As a Kenyan 🇰🇪, I highly appreciate our Ethiopian 🇪🇹 neighbour and the Indian 🇮🇳 girl standing up for us.

    • @bernardanaba2277
      @bernardanaba2277 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same way I'm also thinking. These young people are so tolerant, understanding, outspoken and graceful that something better didn't happen to our world today?

  • @Dan-xx5jq
    @Dan-xx5jq ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The Indian girl, gives new meaning to the song "Brown girl in the ring". As some have pointed out, this was soon after India gained its independence from Britain so she was fully aware of the struggles of her nation. The British lad failed to mention that Britain was stealing a lot of the resources of their colonies than what they were putting back. They love to lay claim to building the railways as they did in India, but they were built to transport all the goods out of India. They forced the Indians to grow cotton instead of food and when Britain had a food crisis they shipped all the grain out of India to feed their people causing millions to die of famine in India. This British lad would have never imagined that the UK today is ruled by a Indian PM. The Ethiopia girl was very pretty and smart. Someone said she is a doctor in California. I had imagined her being a leader in her country. The Norwegian was out of luck, because Norway had not colonized any countries as far as I know.

    • @Hooman374
      @Hooman374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus Norway doesn't have that much racial discrimination..so Norwegians cannot relate to it

  • @lifeshard9784
    @lifeshard9784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    The Indian girl Nalini nair was the best of the 1959 students..love her videos..please add more videos of nalini

    • @20000dino
      @20000dino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youtubeillegallydeletesacc1525 uh ok.

  • @alfredthevarajah1344
    @alfredthevarajah1344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +895

    I am glad to hear that Indian girl speaking on behalf of Kenyans. 👍👍👍

    • @infinite5795
      @infinite5795 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks from India 🇮🇳

    • @merrytunes8697
      @merrytunes8697 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She was not letting him get off with his political response. To say individuals aren’t capable of running their own country is condescending and tone deaf.

    • @JunipersCancer
      @JunipersCancer ปีที่แล้ว

      Wise enough to know there is a big chance some of her ancestors are from Kenya

    • @alfredthevarajah1344
      @alfredthevarajah1344 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JunipersCancer is that true?

    • @JunipersCancer
      @JunipersCancer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alfredthevarajah1344 Yes it's a CHANCE that in fact all of us has ancestors from Kenya. We are truly all connected with her dark skin tone and her seeming intelligence she didn't just get that color from the 🌞

  • @shesdreamin4637
    @shesdreamin4637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    Nalini is so calm like even today these many years later, if I had to endure something like this I'd lose control over my emotions.

    • @ishu5051
      @ishu5051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Actually there is no logic in the words of British boy

    • @potatowarrior747
      @potatowarrior747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If i was sitting as close to that dude as nalini...I'd be throwing hands😀❌👋

    • @eddycarpenter8989
      @eddycarpenter8989 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see weakness. Thats why africans and indians were directly and indirectly dominated by whites for so long.

    • @AnastasiaBeaverhousn
      @AnastasiaBeaverhousn ปีที่แล้ว

      She's a cardiologist today so it makes sense 🤷🏿‍♀️🤣🤣❤️

    • @tiestokygoericprydz3963
      @tiestokygoericprydz3963 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ishu5051 11:30
      Actually she made a fool of herself

  • @devajamini4675
    @devajamini4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Nalini isn’t leaving that British guy alone xD

  • @user-jk7tt3ud1z
    @user-jk7tt3ud1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    I really love those two girls . I am proud of being Ethiopian . I really like the Indian girl as well. I thank you for the Ethiopian girl . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💚💛❤️💚💛❤️🙏🇮🇳

    • @sanjaycharan4682
      @sanjaycharan4682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      🙏❤️🇮🇳 love and respect for both girls

    • @amitytt
      @amitytt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🇮🇳🙏

    • @tusharkantiroy5568
      @tusharkantiroy5568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏(✿ ♥‿♥) 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🙏

  • @meazasetegne5656
    @meazasetegne5656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +396

    Am proud of the Ethiopian and Indian students.

  • @aigal2
    @aigal2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    What ever they talk , they speak quietly .. that’s very cool.
    I love Nalini. She has knowledge . Waw

  • @jjgems5909
    @jjgems5909 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love how everyone speaks. So clearly, articulate, calmly. No one is squirming in their seats when they receive more uncomfortable questions. They listen before they speak, they pause, they don’t attack each other. These kinds of conversations make far more progress then some of these so called debates I see now.

  • @KimsKorn3r
    @KimsKorn3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    I must commend the host, being impartial and devils advocate. She's fostered an environment the kids could freely voice their views. Nicely done.

    • @samuellp1146
      @samuellp1146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The hostess was killing it, damn fine job.

    • @seewhativescene
      @seewhativescene ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In 2022, devil's advocate is employed to obfuscate, manipulate, and gaslight in serious discussions

    • @Rsealwag
      @Rsealwag ปีที่แล้ว +14

      She was totally favoring the brit the entire time.

    • @janymusganesh9051
      @janymusganesh9051 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Rsealwag agree! And she acted offended when the indian girl spoked her mind and shuted her and the other girl up when they were talking. That wasn't classy at all.

    • @stcroix9912
      @stcroix9912 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh please only the colonizers would say she was impartial. You could tell she was offended that Norway thinks American teenagers was stupid and partied snd when they talk about America prejudice and the Ethiopian girl and Indian girl speaks on the fear of coming to america and its prejudices. She was quick to ask the Indian lady what are the prejudice of Indias system. She was very for the British guy and the way of his thinking . The truth is this colonizer is so lost that his mindset is the reason we have the racist sick white folks such as fox news. Because the owner came from Australia in which thrybstile that land again from dark skin black people. Where in the world did these white colonizers go thst they have not stolen . The truth is why you have this hatred for people of color yet you steak from they land and inventions to make you rich. You steal they bodies to do the work for you to praise a country you didnot build. The fact thst white Americans brought European immigrants and gave them free land while black Americans build this country and no land was given to them. The racist way of privilege and taken car of your own race. Then you should have stayed in Europe. Don't ask folks who are black Americans yo have a love for the western world when you scream democracy and love for a nation. Yet hate a certain race t g at build this country.

  • @mulualemberhanu6406
    @mulualemberhanu6406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1743

    All here talking about the Ethiopian Girl not realizing that THE INDIAN GIRL raised a good argument on why British government cant give the Kenyans their independence and the SHAMEFUL answer of the BRITISH BOY ......."Because the kenyans are not politically stable" ............WTF

    • @kudim3185
      @kudim3185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      it's true, lol

    • @djm4854
      @djm4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      It's sad to say that the English boy's response shows the hegemonic haughtiness embedded in his homeland up to that point in history. They thought they were doing African nations a service by bringing their "refined & morally superior" culture to those "savage" lands. Colonialism at its finest... *sigh*

    • @lasagna1299
      @lasagna1299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lol they unstable coz they have aggressors over in their territory dividing em😂

    • @user02406
      @user02406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@djm4854 i agree! and your response is so well written lol, im not a native speaker so i can't help but admire eloquent sentences that i would never be able to think of

    • @djm4854
      @djm4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@user02406 That is so kind of you to say! Thank you! But, never feel like you can't contribute something as poignant in comparison to someone else. You are your own unique person with unique ideas & viewpoints! In fact, you just shared a thought that was both kind & thoughtful, which is already something special---especially for the cruel, unforgiving world that is the internet. LOL

  • @aadityabobish8608
    @aadityabobish8608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    All my respect to the two ladies , not that I am belittling the men but coming from backgrounds as they are, in a time of excessive racism and sexism , and expressing their views and standing up for what they believe in 👏 kudos for the courage

  • @cloudissohotandsoisl
    @cloudissohotandsoisl ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Damn Nalini from India was amazing! love how she held herself, also her and Ethopia's answer had so much more depth than the other two

  • @semenawits991
    @semenawits991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +796

    I am so proud of the Ethiopian girl ዬኔ ቆንጆ and the Indian girl too

    • @Bj-7zo2sMes
      @Bj-7zo2sMes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Amhara privilege

    • @werqzeleke2815
      @werqzeleke2815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Bj-7zo2sMes what???????

    • @sofoniyas8666
      @sofoniyas8666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Bj-7zo2sMes you make no sense their is no such things as Amhara privilege

    • @sisay7
      @sisay7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Bj-7zo2sMes you not sure she is from Amhara? there is no such partitions back then. Whoever excel in school will got scholarship. You are judging her with today's politics. also her last name suggest she may be from Gurage tribe. her name is Bizuyahu Agonafir.

    • @Bj-7zo2sMes
      @Bj-7zo2sMes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sisay7 the truth was Amhars and gurage were the foot soldiers and previladged by the the Racists shewa gala leadership during the H/ silassie leadership

  • @mishaye1
    @mishaye1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    I'm so proud of my Ethiopian sister, the only Ethiopian debater I have watched who consider herself black or color .... all of them are so well articulate and way a head of their age. I wonder if 21st century teenager can hold up a debate like this.

    • @makdagenene313
      @makdagenene313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      trust me we can hold up at least better than thos two boys

    • @zula5753
      @zula5753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I am proud of Ethiopian sister

    • @jerryberry8967
      @jerryberry8967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I’m so proud of her especially how she challenged the condescending white guy from the UK 🙄

    • @aightimmaheadout7484
      @aightimmaheadout7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Night King Very funny how you throw around the word islamophobia. Do you know the history of muslims and christians in Ethiopia since the beginning of time? at least do you research, you sound uneducated.

    • @ditocerto
      @ditocerto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah she is the ONLY Ethiopian debater who consider herself black or color. She actually never said she is black but colored. I wonder who she meant when she said blacks.

  • @all.in.noplanB
    @all.in.noplanB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Nalini Nair... her voice is so pleasant to hear😌

  • @kapsakattumaram
    @kapsakattumaram 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Indian: give independent to Kenya
    British: wait I am not finished my looting (true)

    • @chintasantoshr-4124
      @chintasantoshr-4124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂😂😂 true bro even in this speech he said 10 years but they haven't gave independence untill 1975

    • @koop8711
      @koop8711 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chintasantoshr-4124 was actually 1964

    • @mra.tripti
      @mra.tripti ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@chintasantoshr-4124 nah it was in December 12 1963 and well they exploited the country a lot in 10 years

  • @solmok8502
    @solmok8502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    Kudos to the Ethiopian girl, that’s how a girl from a free nation 🇪🇹 should talk! I wonder if this generation have any such confidence 😌

    • @tsedalebelete1516
      @tsedalebelete1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good Question?

    • @williamdevonish4266
      @williamdevonish4266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A Ethiopian queen at her best.
      She sees how her people are treated in the usa.. this would of been them if they didn't squash the ITALIANS

    • @tsedalebelete1516
      @tsedalebelete1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@williamdevonish4266 She must come from educated background to understand segregation or color I came 1975 I know nothing how the world is divided into color black, white yellow, We only know that I am Ethiopian that is my identity and then african so when they asked me if I am black I used to write no, I am Ethiopian, that I should not accept the name they gave me, I never see white people as white but pink is the color that we think not as identity. I never know about African been colonize or African to be sold to America, the first time I saw roots movie was shocking to me that is when I felt guilty and sad. Where I grew up no tv or no library. People used to ask me do you live with lions and tigers I used to answer them they are our transportation just to make fun I figure they also do not know Africa like my own ignorance so I never was offended.

    • @tsedalebelete1516
      @tsedalebelete1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@williamdevonish4266for example It is almost you go other country asking you on paper are you kinky hair? Even through you have kinky hair you will be shocked and answer no I am African American, just to give you an example.

    • @abduhagos8516
      @abduhagos8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Come on she is not that expressive, this what we call bias lol. If u ask I think that British boy very calculated young man although I hate his ideas that has elements of truth. So my friend plz Ethiopian girl, she isn’t that defer from Indian. Plz do the justice

  • @hustler212
    @hustler212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    Bully: snatches your child.
    You: hay, that's my child, leave him
    Bully: okay, but when you're ready for him.
    I'll send him to you GadUaLly.

    • @user-yk5lv8iw8x
      @user-yk5lv8iw8x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you’re not ready for the child yet- that’s a great solution. CPS does it all the time for the welfare of the children.

    • @hustler212
      @hustler212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@user-yk5lv8iw8xyou come home snatches whole of the wealth ( 45 trillion dollars), kill innumerous people, destroy their livelihood, and then say you're not ready for independence yet.
      Irony killed itself and died a thousand deaths.

    • @user-yk5lv8iw8x
      @user-yk5lv8iw8x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hustler212 Dude, did you just blow smoke up that ass? 45 trillion? 🤣 Have you been to any of these countries? What’s the condition in India- except piggy backing off of the infrastructure laid by Britishers. He goes on to explain why it would be disastrous for the existing governance body / acting military to just leave. It would be utter chaos. Take Nigeria for example. Their own corruption and people have kept them poor. See what’s happening in Afghanistan.

    • @CoolMan-jh1rr
      @CoolMan-jh1rr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@user-yk5lv8iw8x 45 trillion is the actual wealth the fucking British imperialists looted from India in 190 years of British rule.

    • @user-yk5lv8iw8x
      @user-yk5lv8iw8x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CoolMan-jh1rr Get over it man. If your forefathers had guns and ammunition- they wouldn’t lose to ones who had those. Whole of human history is about factions winning against each other. Too bad that you are on the losing side.

  • @akhilaravind3741
    @akhilaravind3741 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nalini Nair worked as Civil Servant for India to many countries for years and I came to know from another video from TH-cam with a photo that she has been settled somewhere in Trivandrum, Kerala India. Now she is 80 years.

  • @makina2480
    @makina2480 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Proud of both girls for speaking out without fear against discrimination & racism.

  • @IreneBisassoHoemNetwork
    @IreneBisassoHoemNetwork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    I like how they discuss with calm about these sensitive issues. The two girls discussing here were very impressive. The Norwegian I think he means what today we call Norwegians from North (nord norge).

    • @tilethio
      @tilethio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagin this was before civil right movement.

    • @zZE94
      @zZE94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Curious to know if there is still discrimination against nord norge today.

    • @gwailou5
      @gwailou5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@zZE94 Samis are still discriminated in Norway

    • @muhya9480
      @muhya9480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gwailou5 how?

    • @elmstreet2036
      @elmstreet2036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zZE94 not nord Norge but samis and immigrants yes

  • @aimeekromoprajitno996
    @aimeekromoprajitno996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    The Indian girl is on fireee!

  • @induja9532
    @induja9532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Also, I love the fact that these delegates are upholding a certain level of reverence for each other despite debating on topics with the scope of extreme disagreement. I can imagine how such a healthy discussion could turn into severely heated arguments today. All in all, it was beautiful!

  • @sadieb27
    @sadieb27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The fact they're all high schoolers is so shocking like they're all so well spoken and well informed on so many topics, I feel like most high schoolers now wouldn't be nearly as educated or articulate 😭

  • @gebremariamaga7217
    @gebremariamaga7217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    The Ethiopian girl had given an impressive remark, and being an independent nation had helped her to freely express her self as a young girl. She was also asking for the Kenyan independence at that time. She had given a substantial comments about the racism at the time, and she also given a good implication how the prejudice can affect others without their knowledge.
    Over all, all of them had a wonderful discussion.

  • @selamlehulum7768
    @selamlehulum7768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I have watched so much of this kind of discussions where Ethiopians were part of the discussion but this girl has impressed me very much . I’m proud being an Ethiopian

    • @kitty-vk8ic
      @kitty-vk8ic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

    • @ronaldlord5166
      @ronaldlord5166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think this pauses a good question for the ethiopians who think they are white. The Ethiopian girl is so intelligent and so aware of who she is.

    • @aightimmaheadout7484
      @aightimmaheadout7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ronaldlord5166 Those Ethiopians do not think they are white. They are heavily misinformed due to propaganda, what separates these
      Ethiopians and the brain-washed ones is having a true sense of pride that Ethiopians naturally have when western ideologies
      are not involved. This is also prevalent in Ethiopians who practice christianity, they seem to be extremely patriotic.

    • @elmstreet2036
      @elmstreet2036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aightimmaheadout7484 EXACTLY, me and my family were having a maraton of these videos and were just in shocked when the last ethiopian boys said that they were arabs or sun burned hebrews.
      Separating themselves from their blackness cus they feel superior to west africans and african americans

    • @ruthhh.m
      @ruthhh.m ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldlord5166 why do so many people keep saying Ethiopians think they are white/non-black/non-African? That is so far from the truth and idk where y'all got it from. I am Ethiopian, I came from Ethiopia, all of my family is from Ethiopia and none of my community members say that. Ethiopians know they are Africans, they know they are black but what they REFUSE to be classified is by the negative racial stereotypes that people put unfairly onto black people, which is 100% fair and a good amount of black people refuse to identify by it too. They refuse to identify with the concepts of "illiteracy", "vandalism", " poverty", etc. Just because Ethiopians don't identify with those negative tropes does not mean they don't acknowledge the fact they are Africans. We are literally one of the oldest African nations and take pride in that. We also acknowledge we are fall into the black category in societies where other ethnicies exist (whites, Latinos, Asians, etc.). We just refuse to identify with the negativity that some people try to attach to that label.
      Edit: also, the Ethiopian community isn't a monolith. If you heard one or two Ethiopians saying something ridiculous, their opinion don't reflect the identify of the whole so please don't assume all of our identities by the opinions of the weird few😅

  • @s.mcgirl
    @s.mcgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This is such a rich conversation and it's crazy to think that even then issues of now are still being discussed. Things never really change do they?

    • @ruthwambui5471
      @ruthwambui5471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly here in our home country

  • @did_i_ask_btchDO_i_look_i_care
    @did_i_ask_btchDO_i_look_i_care 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The indian girl seems the main character over here idk why😅...she seems so cool & knows what's happening.Her presence making me think if this is real or a netflix movie scene😵!
    The Ethiopian girl is also amazing!🙌

  • @mitinanash3321
    @mitinanash3321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    My God the British and his arrogance! To see their understanding in our times is just mind blowing despite learning about this through history. And to even think that some still hold these understandings to this day!

    • @sheilashineleofany822
      @sheilashineleofany822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      yeahh that time all brits student think colonialism is a 100% good thing

    • @ggJin
      @ggJin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      7:32 He speaks on the stance of the government(siding with it) and the perspective of the whites who are staying at those colonized nations or whites in general(not his own). He later speaks on the value of the native’s culture and should not be westernized. Meaning he’s aware that westernizations could jeopardize the native’s culture. He’s for integration, against racism and segregation. Some people just don’t have great listening skills, further impaired when they’re already biased. Which basically makes them only hear what they want to hear which is typically out of context things that appear to be negative.

    • @mitinanash3321
      @mitinanash3321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@ggJin let me waste my few seconds on a lost cause. Who the heck gave him the right to go to someone's land and dictate how things should be? They shouldn't be there in the first place. That is the issue not that he is for preserving the natives culture or all the other things you talk of. He is saying that the natives are illiterate and need to be educated to be on the same level with the white settlers, to be integrated. Who the heck does that and still try to find a meaning out of that? You go to someone's land, the land they have lived on for hundreds and thousands of years, take it and put them in a gated village where they are only allowed to leave and work on the farms they stole from them in the first place? You can't find any justification from what he says because the foundation comes from the thinking that we(whites)are better and they(natives/blacks) need our help to be better.

    • @wildturkey3776
      @wildturkey3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mitinanash3321 Going there was wrong but now that we are there how is living during that time going to help them ?

    • @chaddichornandu477
      @chaddichornandu477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@wildturkey3776 ohh please i dont know abt other countries but in India 3000 to 3500 years in indus valley civilisation people already adopted democratic ways and moreover we were happy with king's rule in some part as those kings were really capable theres no leader now who match the level of our king from maharashtra state in india and along the time the countries were fated to be democratic coz of diversity in cultures race and this isnt abt just one country but all of them where these british invaded and looted the land and its resources

  • @yonatan8504
    @yonatan8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    The ethiopian girl is impressive..she made strong and factual arguments

    • @wildturkey3776
      @wildturkey3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She got owned because what the British dude was saying was and is the right path.

    • @dundundun430
      @dundundun430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@wildturkey3776 owned? Did you watch the video? You also have the profile picture of a man who has said degrading things about women and other prejudice things about minorities. I'm not expecting you to say anything literate

    • @sangat4315
      @sangat4315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@wildturkey3776 As another person said already, did you even watch the video? And what specific "path" are you referring to?

    • @i.i1215
      @i.i1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@wildturkey3776 who still says “owned” loool grow up

  • @Anasyub
    @Anasyub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    1:50 "i never expected american teenagers to be working hard at school"
    LMAO SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE like americas image

  • @shimronshapiro9520
    @shimronshapiro9520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an unbelievably inspiring video. If only world had listened to this all those years ago…

  • @3fearlessboys453
    @3fearlessboys453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    These two young women are awesome!! And these videos are soooo eye opening for me. Thank you for sharing them!

  • @misgunhaile7357
    @misgunhaile7357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +564

    I'm proud of the Ethiopian girl!

    • @daimentraymi7962
      @daimentraymi7962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I agree with you and the Indian girl!

    • @Shadowbannddiscourse
      @Shadowbannddiscourse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Daniman_LG That's so cool to know I wondered what ever became of these kids . I wonder if she goes to my church I go to any tewahedo church

    • @Lomi-Wuha
      @Lomi-Wuha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Daniman_LG wow is she alive?

    • @nahomb2784
      @nahomb2784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sucks to see the other whitewashed fools tho..

    • @Timureithi
      @Timureithi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Lomi-Wuha Most of them are in their 70s to mid 80s so most of them are very much alive.

  • @techijennytara7146
    @techijennytara7146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    These debates are profound. So smooth and polite. As much as they're against each other's arguments, they're all the more inclusive of each other's opinions and new information. For instance, when the Ethiopian girl talks about the development of Education in her country, the others are attentive and welcoming. It is truly unfortunate that such debates don't take place any longer.

  • @sarangnaini2774
    @sarangnaini2774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It gives me chills when I think, they might not be there in this world anymore. They might be around 82 years of age. They might be alive or dead. I would have loved to see where they are in their lives, what did they do afterwards? Is it just me who is getting curious about where they are in their lives?

    • @Athenabadassinthearena
      @Athenabadassinthearena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hear someone say that the Ethiopian Girl is a cardiologist and is somewhere between 70-80 (72 or 74 I think)

    • @sevimosi5142
      @sevimosi5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so much.. my Curiosity of their progress would be amazing.

    • @frustratedaf5349
      @frustratedaf5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nalini Nair should be 84 by now, but I don't think she is alive because she suffered through breast cancer at some point in her life...

    • @rosalia3638
      @rosalia3638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Athenabadassinthearena she's 80 now but you're right

    • @mra.tripti
      @mra.tripti ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@frustratedaf5349 sadly, she died in 2011.

  • @suswsh07
    @suswsh07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    I proud of indian woman.. Nalini.. She is truly represents young Bharat... She is intelligent... Calm, Confident ,Brave & Smart....which all Educated Hindu... 🚩🚩🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏

    • @barlavaralakshmi6978
      @barlavaralakshmi6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, am being an INDIAN proud of 👍
      Mam Nalini talks about these situations bravo speech by her 👏👏👏👏

    • @gurubalu6677
      @gurubalu6677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      South Indian ❤️stop bringing religion into it idiot

    • @feymusings294
      @feymusings294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@gurubalu6677
      But it's apparently okay to bring north and south into it. I see

    • @jayansreekanth
      @jayansreekanth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Whatsup with the religion

    • @indian3680
      @indian3680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@gurubalu6677 she is just indian no matter south , north ,east or west . So according to you Bringing 'south' indian is ok and bringing religion is not ok 😂. Neither Religion should be here nor part of India she belongs to should be here . She is just INDIAN

  • @tamiratgutema1915
    @tamiratgutema1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I so proud of my Ethiopian girl and girl from India👍

  • @runa441
    @runa441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I like how the Norway guy sat down with the black students in the cafeteria while the other students isolated them…..23:50

  • @jennyfurp9884
    @jennyfurp9884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Proud of Nalini Nair! and I'm sure she's a South Indian Malayali which makes me even prouder :)

  • @fassilhabisso4659
    @fassilhabisso4659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The Ethiopian girl is smartest , well informed and the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life represented her country very well . What an outstanding young woman. Much deserved love and respect ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

  • @pippagatz
    @pippagatz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Id love to hear these two white guys talk today.. Total respect to the beautiful Etheopian and Indian ladies 💓

    • @pippagatz
      @pippagatz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @CL Wil totally! And as a white priveldged female this has to stop!

    • @potatoes6064
      @potatoes6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@pippagatz stfu you attention seeker

    • @dundundun430
      @dundundun430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@h.k.295 But you are one

    • @Komnenos83
      @Komnenos83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @CL Wil White privilege doesnt exist

    • @Komnenos83
      @Komnenos83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @CL Wil When the two girls are "aware" of racism, then why is india and kenya so racist today and norway is not?

  • @dedbread1134
    @dedbread1134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    "One cannot just give them a high school education after they have been illiterate for thousands of years" - John
    Throughout this debate, I do agree John has given some valid points, but this is just outright wrong. I think that John thinks that just because Kenyans were not literate in his language that they must not have any knowledge at all, deeming languages like Swahili as less educated or rich than English. I'm sure he gets this idea from capitalism and white supremacy, but this isn't all his fault - it's just what he was taught.
    As a British Indian, I have noticed that this prejudice and lack of knowledge of the past has not been learned from. I used to love history, but when I got to high school I realised that it was all written from only one perspective - the whites. I remember coming into a history lesson and my teacher telling us we were going to learn about slavery and the colonisation of India. I was ecstatic as I had hundreds of points to make, and knowledge to share. But the lesson completely took my naïve self by surprise. The curriculum stated that the British brought stability, money and railways to India.
    They thought it was a better idea to educate the young British generation about trains rather than the suffering they inflicted on the Indians.
    I remember vividly storming up to my history teacher at the end of class and demanding that the curriculum should be changed. I vented and raged to him about all the slavery and abuse that the British did and I remember shouting about how they r*ped Indian women, leaving them to die and how they had no respect for our culture, trying to re-educate us in a way that they thought was the only way. Their way.
    My history teacher was a white, British man. He sat and listened to me patiently, nodding and agreeing with my statements. When I had finished, he looked at me and told me I was right. That history IS only taught from the white perspective, it IS made to make the British look better and that everything that I was saying should be taught and recognised. But he also told me that as much as he'd like to change the curriculum, it most probably wouldn't be, as people are more concerned - like they always were, no matter how much they say they've changed - about their public image.
    I was so emotionally drained that I couldn't reply.
    He didn't tell me to disregard my views and just learn what I'm told I'm supposed to, but that having strong opinions were crucial to survive in this world of cruelty and that you will be stepped on without them. He told me to stick with them and fight with them and maybe one day that that would change the history books.
    I live by that now.
    I have found that I have grown to be a very opinionated, strong, young woman and I am proud of that and my heritage. I have also found that I have a strong affinity towards debating. I'm sharing this in the hopes that whoever reads this doesn't succumb to anyone else because they view themselves and their views as superior to yours.
    If you believe in something, fight for it.

    • @BlueLionsTVNiiNiiFC
      @BlueLionsTVNiiNiiFC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Beautiful comment to read

    • @NarasimhanMG
      @NarasimhanMG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "I was so emotionally drained that I couldn't reply". Happens to me when I argue with Indian Anglophiles!

    • @francoisdaureville323
      @francoisdaureville323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      White british man?? You mean a british man??? Real british are white, you obviusly are happy to take the citizenship of your colonizers, stop saying white british

    • @breakfree1111
      @breakfree1111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So do you think that all views about an objective matter are all equally valid?

    • @dedbread1134
      @dedbread1134 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@breakfree1111 That's a very broad statement what do you mean by that?

  • @tejug1161
    @tejug1161 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The level of communication was so decent. Nalini and the Kenyan woman both are so intelligent, perceptive, patient and really good orators.

  • @sca8217
    @sca8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    Moral: Colonial apologists will go to any lengths to justify colonial wrongdoings and to pass them off as being for upliftment of the uncivilized natives.

    • @Komnenos83
      @Komnenos83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Colonialism did had alot of good affects though, for example it basically ended the arabslave trade

    • @sgh94644
      @sgh94644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Lol it replaced it with Atlantic slave trade. Something much worse

    • @Bigsharter
      @Bigsharter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Uncivilized”

    • @revolutionishere
      @revolutionishere ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Komnenos83 what is wrong with you?

    • @pastelpurpledeathbed
      @pastelpurpledeathbed ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Komnenos83 there are still slaves in arab states so…not that successful.

  • @wisdom_ETHIOPIA
    @wisdom_ETHIOPIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Despite whatever is happening recently, proud to be an Ethiopian!

    • @bebybeby33
      @bebybeby33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me tooo

    • @yennygebre9216
      @yennygebre9216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree, but there is nothing to be proud to be an Ethiopian anymore. Our country is in a big trouble.the country that people get killed because of their ethnical-and beliefs background, and displaced from the place they lived for decades.we are just full of foolish pride without nothing. All we do is pointing at others and each other for the nation’s failure instead of unity and love, our country is a very low label on economy, national security, safety. Let’s drop the pride for now , because it does not make sense!!

    • @wisdom_ETHIOPIA
      @wisdom_ETHIOPIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@yennygebre9216 You're certain my brother/sister, but being an Ethiopian has nothing to do with the problems created by us, I mean like it's not what we have been creating since some several years but it's natural and inevitable! So I barely get anything from the perspective how you defined and described it. Still proud to be an Ethiopian!!

    • @fatumaa6927
      @fatumaa6927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too!!

    • @avialuvav8833
      @avialuvav8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@yennygebre9216 there was a moment called zemene mesafinet in Ethiopia were each state had there own leaders people always fighting for the throne and yet we passed that moment and became one. our unity made us the only country in Africa that wasn't colonized the only country that celebrates victory day adwa when other African countries celebrates indepandance day our unity is a storm that stands high like a tower and could wash over the plans of our enemy's so the so called developed countries would do anything to pull as down I tell you we're having many problems because we're gonna rise the youth and the teen's like me are being educated about there country by themselves and I tell you I'm in high school and there is not a day we pass by with out talking about our country and even try to do projects on things that could help our country Ethiopia.. so bruh u should be proud of our country we haven't yet known about the secret of our country we will rise just don't let the media and people talking all around about hate and racism keep u from being proud and loving your people love y'all

  • @aristotle_joking5088
    @aristotle_joking5088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I just loved the way Nalini speakes and her smile is soo alluring ... .. moreover , I loved seeing the reaction of uk when India directly talked about Kenyan independence .
    I really respect the courage of nalini and the Ethopian girl 🌼

  • @nathanieljuleka8623
    @nathanieljuleka8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As a Kenyan watching the ignorance of the British guy was offensive and sad at the time because he genuinely believed that they were helping us. I really respect Nilini for keeping a clear head because I'm not sure I would have done the same if I were in her place. The Indians were just as affected as the tribes in Kenya during the colonization, especially since they were forced to provide labor for the Kenya- Uganda railway even though there was no promise of any long term benefits for them. I also don't believe the fact that the British didn't have any other intentions aside from 'helping' the tribes, which, mind you, survived just fine in the centuries before the whites came in,

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You say that, but the Arabs were pillaging the land before the British arrived. Obviously British policies in Kenya were horrid in the 50s, but they were closely guarded secrets, and the government of the time hid it from even the Royal Family. You are right that the boy didn't know about these policies but to call him ignorant as though he had any way of knowing otherwise is kind of unfair

    • @nj.7325
      @nj.7325 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nalini

  • @ewnetuyineger9558
    @ewnetuyineger9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I am very proud of our representative, an Ethiopian girl. She is so decent and humble to express her stands free of any inferiority. She knows well what independence is and tries to fight for other black peoples as her forefathers have been doing. This is the essence of being an Ethiopian.

  • @debebeteklu1451
    @debebeteklu1451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The Ethiopian girl truly reflects the high level of education we had in Ethiopia during that glorious period! All of us must hurry now more than ever before to reclaim that glory.

    • @luk-man7889
      @luk-man7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glory of what? Not being able to feed your self ever? Ethiopia is known for nothing but starvation throughout its history. ቀፎ።

    • @mikot4439
      @mikot4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@luk-man7889 you could have expressed yourself without the insult , you are the typical byproduct of the Tplf corrupted generation ...didn’t you notice the pride that the Ethiopian girl had when she said that we were never colonized , that is what it means to be Ethiopian ..

    • @user-xc9gd2el6v
      @user-xc9gd2el6v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luk-man7889 tebeda banda

    • @luk-man7889
      @luk-man7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikot4439 should I give you a lesson in Ethiopian history? Maybe not, because all they thought you falsehood and you will be shocked. The truth hurts.
      Instead of being proud of emperor who abandoned his people and ran off only to take refuge in a London apartment, thank PM. Winston Churchill who bail him out and handed him the country back.

    • @luk-man7889
      @luk-man7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-xc9gd2el6v ባንቺ? በጭራሽ አይሆንም።

  • @uleinfamous
    @uleinfamous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These are so good. A window into a different time altogether. They should revive these student exchanges

  • @malinblitz
    @malinblitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the norwegian guy saying that there used to be racism towards sami people but not anymore: yikes. sami women were sterilized against their will by the norwegian government until 1975, and in the 1950s sami children were still being sent to residential school as a part of the cultural genocide of the sami people. sami people today still face discrimination and harassment, and the norwegian government is still destroying sapmi territory for industry.

  • @fano7092
    @fano7092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    THE ETHIOPIAN GIRL 😍

    • @holbrook-ul9cf
      @holbrook-ul9cf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      She is 78 yrs old and cardiologist in calofornia you see how time flies

    • @leulekalzeleke7490
      @leulekalzeleke7490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@holbrook-ul9cf are u kidding me?

    • @holbrook-ul9cf
      @holbrook-ul9cf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leulekalzeleke7490 yes sure this video is 62 years ago she was then 17 years old do the maths now

  • @digagtube5077
    @digagtube5077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Love Ethiopian and Indian ladies ❤️❤️❤️

  • @MK-oe5md
    @MK-oe5md 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like this conversation. They all had a chance to learn from each other. I think the boy from the UK doesn't quite understand what they are saying, though I understand his confusion being as that has been what he has been told since he was little. I think they brought up good points. I hope that the UK boy was able to learn more after this interview.

  • @NeetuSingh-gz2bt
    @NeetuSingh-gz2bt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the most patient and polite debate I've ever heard and seen

  • @tsegayemesele9031
    @tsegayemesele9031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I am very proud of the Ethiopian girl she is so intelligent and proud in her skin. I just watched the other debates but the young Ethiopian boys were not informed, when they said Amhara is better than other ethnic tribes in Ethiopia and we are the lost tribe of Israel. I was very disappointed, because I am more than two Ethiopian ethnicities. This kind of false pride caused the problems happening right now in Ethiopia.

    • @yonathankidane2149
      @yonathankidane2149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree! I was also so shocked when he said 'We are lost tribes of Israel' I don't know who taught him'

    • @Tata-mt7ue
      @Tata-mt7ue 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yonathankidane2149 😀😀 he was blubber mouth with no knowledge

    • @Jstar697
      @Jstar697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      amharas are the lost tribe that is his opinion who are you to tell Amharas what to think? You have a problem with Amharas having pride tell my why Lake Tana is in their region then? the whole horn will be benefiting from Amhara peoples water you complexiam keep your our tribe name out of your racist mouth

    • @yonathankidane2149
      @yonathankidane2149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Abyssinia 024 Hey there, what can I say? This is just ridiculous!! You judged my ethnicity right from my name, I guess so. However, I am Amhara ethnicity though I am ashamed to tell someone who has a blinded and screwed way of judging people. Don't judge a book by its cover. Above all, we are humans. Again, I can assure you my stance on the original topic that I don't believe we, AMHARAS are lost tribes of Israel. እኛ አማራዎች ነን እንጂ ከእስራኤል ነገድ አይደለንም። Thanks.

    • @aightimmaheadout7484
      @aightimmaheadout7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Abyssinia 024 You are lost and make amhara's look bad. We do not have an OUNCE of blood from any other country, we are purely Ethiopian. There is always the exception of intermingling but it does not reflect on the Ethiopian civilization. This is purely western propaganda in order to divide the tribes of Ethiopia to feel that they are superior to one another. That is exactly how our country will fall if we continue to believe in ideologies that come from thin air. I myself am amhara and I have never once thought of myself as superior to any other tribe because then I would be betraying my moral compass. I refuse to believe in such lies and I suggest you do more unbiased research.

  • @chimakalu41
    @chimakalu41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    3:11 Excellent statement by the girl from Ethiopia. Any segregation present in the United States whether North or South is seen as having discrimination in the country as a whole by Africans who view it from the outside of the continent.

  • @aurelia160
    @aurelia160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These youngsters are all so incredibly well spoken. I really enjoyed watching this

  • @Athenabadassinthearena
    @Athenabadassinthearena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    The British guy definitely grew up in a brainwashed home

    • @tilethio
      @tilethio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I am from Ethiopia but I would say, he grew up reading and government policies on news papers and listening to the radios. His points are very Articulate better than politicians today.

    • @E.L.L.E
      @E.L.L.E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well, of course he did. He has nothing else to compare life to but what he hears from 1950s British propaganda. :(

    • @sweetf3311
      @sweetf3311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Entitled. Not his fault.

    • @Mhw.
      @Mhw. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sasa unaongea. This guy I don't think he deserved being in this debate

    • @user-fw1hj3vv2k
      @user-fw1hj3vv2k ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tilethio and lies that politicians say and some of the common people believe.

  • @chimakalu41
    @chimakalu41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    14:55 Ethiopian girl is 🔥. She is an advocate ready to administer change. The Indian girl too.

  • @aldamendes5024
    @aldamendes5024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this channel so much!

  • @maxwelldavenport2589
    @maxwelldavenport2589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have a long way to go but human progress is generational. I think it's changing in my lifetime, i am proud of the unity I've seen so far and I'm excited to see more harmony among the raves and cultures on earth. The fact that these people are talking in one room shows the small steps that were taken in the past.

  • @Dramaeditzz44
    @Dramaeditzz44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iam so impressed by this conversation of my parents generation ..they are socially so responsible ...hope we were educated in the same manner .......we could not have so many absconders and polarizers ....who left this country leaving millions of debts and killing democracy by polarizing citizens on basis of caste, religion etc

  • @OfficialDananthony
    @OfficialDananthony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    The Indian and Ethiopian girls did well with their points

  • @princessshivu
    @princessshivu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video talks volumes ! It’s disheartening to see not much has changed of the world, decades later. To see such hope in the youth of yesterday, I wonder how they turned out and hope they weren’t disappointed with the world !

  • @jeminajoycoetzee3404
    @jeminajoycoetzee3404 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I believe John was trained to answer the question about Kenyas independence. Same answer was given to Africans when they asked for their art back, they were told they would not know how to take care of their own art

  • @5thdimensionliving727
    @5thdimensionliving727 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done Nalini 👍 you were awesome. So calm, respectful and precise 🙏🙏

  • @tigistmelakehiwot5489
    @tigistmelakehiwot5489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Interesting:
    Before the new educational system came to Ethiopia the country had her own educational system specially around the Ethiopian orthodox church.Ethiopia has her own alphabet,number,calendar, traditional medicine farming etc
    before the modern or the western education :
    in many fields Ethiopia had her own local school
    Thank you every one
    if you are all alive i wish to see you again in a new discussion.

    • @luk-man7889
      @luk-man7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ethiopian has her own this and that, who doesn't? Ethiopia has 3000 yrs of civilisation? But it hasn't fed itself in that many yrs. Sadly, it's way behind everything in africa. ቱልቱላ።

    • @ibrodinho
      @ibrodinho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Carl Johnson excuses excuses

    • @meganhey2582
      @meganhey2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ibrodinho How is it an excuse? The US NEVER had Britain mess up the US by going there and turning people against each other, and robbing the US of its resources.

    • @ibrodinho
      @ibrodinho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@meganhey2582 If it's so easy to destroy a country, it was never great to begin with.

    • @aightimmaheadout7484
      @aightimmaheadout7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ibrodinho Easy? are you dense or perhaps slow in the head. Ethiopia has been hit left and right throughout many years by nations with more military power and yet Ethiopia has never been colonized. The aftermath of these wars will inevitably have an adverse affect on Ethiopia. However, the blood-shed and the sacrifices made was worth it, because our independence is the main priority. We will continue to have our own alphabet, language, rich history etc. Selling out our country for mundane reasons is weak.

  • @LarsVision
    @LarsVision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    They're using the word prejudice. But their debate is actually about oppression, lack of liberty, and inequality, based on darker peoples (racism).

    • @wthisgoingon__4300
      @wthisgoingon__4300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      which is directly related to all this stuff

    • @Jackson-arada
      @Jackson-arada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wthisgoingon__4300 right

  • @KafallaGoofy
    @KafallaGoofy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for uploading these discussions.

  • @xxshadowhunter1068
    @xxshadowhunter1068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As an Indian girl, I think the reason the indian girl had stood up for Kenya's independance was because we ourselves knew the struggle of a similar thing, after being colonised by the British for so long.

  • @Sunshine-rf3wc
    @Sunshine-rf3wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I am so proud the beautiful Ethiopian girl and the Indian girl debates.
    I wonder where the Ethiopian, girl now. 🤔
    I feel like to do a High school, .reunion for them and host the debates.😁
    I hope and wish all of them are well also succeed in life. 🙏🇪🇷

    • @insanelyawesam1420
      @insanelyawesam1420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The host obviously won’t be alive now. But they really SHOULD conduct a reunion with whoever is left from the student group!

    • @biniyamayele282
      @biniyamayele282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She is now a cardiologist practicing In california

  • @darkluna963
    @darkluna963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    😌😌😌😌 my Ethiopian girl thank u I love u my dear

  • @Time12345A
    @Time12345A ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for uploading this.. Respect 🙌

  • @trptv823
    @trptv823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Kudos To The Indian Girl....She Been So Savage Toward The British Boy's Hypocritical Answers On Her Question