I confess that l feel most Lexus buyers are not that excited about 0-60 times like automotive enthusiasts on this page. Quality, comfort, stability and nimble handling is what we looked for in our past and current Lexus cars. With a cop at every corner looking to fleece you, speed becomes a luxury rarely enjoyed.😊
driving efficiently(low emissions, high miles per gallon , car longveity and low maintenance sort of mixed into it, ) is like endurance racing , avoiding need for pitstops etc, needing to get places on time but doing so efficiently (or whatever speed you want , if you dont care as much about efficiency). driving efficiently is speeding up especially on more downhill-ish roads at optimal fuel level and engine RPM(RotationPerSecond), steering and braking minimally but smoothly. optimal efficiency for toyota 2.4 inline 4 is 2/3 pedal down in 2k-3k rpm, cvt hybrid maintain constant rpm. not sure whats best to do this in: sport mode, fuel level is more, in eco mode its less. use EV mode if optimal combustion level would speed car too much (often, if car isnt letting you do that without the EV mode, it wont let you us EV mode.) use it a bit from a stop for smooth acceleration then when car is rolling use combustion then maybe use it a bit more. smooth acceleration is part of putting less weight on tires at a moment because: consider tire wear dust emissions and how much it cost to replace tires (most people are becoming increasingly even poorer than they already are and you can invest money into bigger money)like those "xenoestrogen endocrine disputing forever chemicals micro plastics" etc. apply less weight on tires and you'll allow more of that weight handling ability to be used for having more grip for endurance-race-pitstop-avoiding momentum preservation driving fun in the name of efficiency. being able to feel how close car is to its grip limit is good for this goal, similar to the lotus-car-enjoyers ideal. this type of driving fun is most safe because its nto as fast as possible but does make you rather aware of driving environment instead of being focused mostly on music/radio/daydreaming/texting, etc youtubes think flight, julian edgar,etc have videos on improving aerodynamic efficiency of his car.can add anti sway bar , better suspension etc "handling mods" for more momentum around turns, but some of it can make the ride bumpier, louder, etc.
It’s not that people want to go 0-60 in 2 seconds all the time, it’s that you have to wind up a 4 cylinder before it will even get out of its own way. 6 cylinders are effortlessly smooth and powerful. It makes a much more luxurious sedan. I make an exception for turbos, which I like, but they’re certainly not ever going to be described as smooth. I’d put them in sport sedans, BMWs etc.
@@mervinprone Yeah, supercharging seems like the more obvious choice but there’s arguments to be made that the parasitic draw at the lower RPMs may negate the linear response which is desirable from superchargers.
The average age for a Lexus buyer reported in 2018 by CarMax was 44 and 42 for Toyota. It is true they do not care about performance. I love cars I have been to nascar events and plan to go to the 24 hours of Daytona next year and see Indycar for the first time in my life. The problem is that the average age of these buyers do not spend most of their time on the internet. Us automotive enthusiasts are a very small minority in terms of sales. Yes we make our voices heard on the internet but when the numbers are shown, we are not the ones buying the cars. It is hard to say but us automotive enthusiasts need to let go of 0-60 times and other performance aspects of cars. Our days are not that long left for NA cars. Hybrids and EVs are going to be a thing 10-20 years from now. Will it be full EV? No I do not believe so, I believe that us Americans have deluded ourselves into believing EVs are a saving grace (they are not lol) we will always need NA cars, diesels and hybrids.
I am more of a Honda/Acura guy, but I just bought a 2024 Lexus ES350. I just wanted something that has a V6 because its gonna be going away, not a fan of small engines with turbos. I already have a TLX with the 4 cylinder, but also a TSX in the past.
You’re more of a Honda /Acura guy for what ? It’s legit confusing. Lexus makes faster and more powerful cars than ACURA. V8 and rear wheel drive car / full SUV nothing Acura have remotely close. On the Honda side nothing nothing exciting outside of the sole Civic Type r. And people talk about this company as if it’s this world beating car brand. Being a Honda/acura guy is like a joke you’re saying that as if it’s something worth mentioning… out of all the auto manufacturers honda and Acura people are the most delusional.
Many like the extra sportiness and looks of the Shawd tlx type s over the es although you lose some room.and luxury respectively and unfortunately no acura hybrid is anywhere to be found which is a huge mistake.. All integrals tlx rdx and mdx should come with hybrid standard
I love this current generation ES. Quite possibly the sharpest one! My dad leased a 2020 ES 350 and then bought a 23 RX 350 because he love the rims on it. It's a shame the V-6 engine is going to be gone :-(
@@jp23baz33 He needed something higher, he's almost 80, and was getting difficult getting out lol but I don't think so. But the RX has so much tech he doesn't know how to use.
Frankly speaking I am of the view that the global EV market is not gonna boom until they come out with 400 mile real world range EVs that can also charge up to 80 percent in 15 minutes
If Toyota is to be believed this will happen in 2027 when their solid state batteries will be available. I think that's why many ppl are waiting for the next gen EVs . They will have improvement in the following categories hopefully. 1. Range 2. Charging 3. Price 4. Battery technology
I have a '22 ES300h, this news is fantastic. I would buy an ES PHEV in a heartbeat, especially if it's AWD. With that said I would maybe consider a full EV maybe, we'll see what the specs are. Solid state battery would make that an easier buy. Current EV battery tech is not that great (recharge time etc).
Great video….as someone enjoying a 10-year-old ES 350, I was always debating if it’s worth shifting into the 2025 Camry or just wait until the new generation ES comes out. I still have a soft spot for the 2GRFE V6. So smooth and shifts like velvety butter
The ES Hybrid is an amazing car. We bought one new in 2019. Our son inherited from us and it is still rock solid and smooth. We see them all the time operating as airport limos.
I am gonna gift my 17YO son my 2017 ES350 (43k miles on her as of today) in about 2 years and I will be getting the new ES hybrid or a 2-3YO LC500h. Just bought my wife a new 2024 NX350H, our first hybrid and loving it. My daughter will inherit his older brother’s 08 RX350 AWD when she gets her license in 2 years. Lexus family for life, well except a Porsche 911 if i can make retirement at 60 in about 8 years.
I own a recent ES. Love the car, but I'm excited to see what Lexus does. It seems like they can replace the GS with this new ES and combine the best of both worlds.
That was the idea. F sport etc. I don’t know if I’m reaching here, but I’m wondering if the LS will be discontinued. This COULD be a somewhat close vibe as the LS of maxed out? I don’t know yet.
I hate this comparison of the early Lexus models as being a rebadged Camry. It's simply not true. I had an es250 and 300 and they were Camrys on steroids. Just much better interior, quality leather, good soundproofing, etc. You knew what you were getting.
The ES has always been in its own sub segment as an comfort route Ted sedan that starts in the low 40s, but the closest competitor was the MKZ/Zephyr or STS/XTS or even the TLX
The ES has become the LS. Look at how long the original LS was and realize the ES has grown to that size. The new ES could be even longer than the OG 1989 LS. A proper electric with a big enough battery could be a competitive sedan to the Lucid Air and Tesla Model S. They just need to put enough of a battery to match the range in the current ICE ES.
The current V6 is already overpowering the front wheels. Putting any more power to the front wheels is pointless. Remember, ES is bacon wrapped Camry, that means we are stuck with FWD. unless full electrification happens …
This is literally the dream here. PHEV option to plug it in like the prius prime. I'm concerned the 2.5L in the Camry isn't going to be enough for the ES300 base
The new ES, if tweaked like the new Camry, will be sportier more akin to a GS. What this needs is a 2.4L Hybrid Max with plug-in capability. Until the infra is ready or you live in a SFH, EV just won't sell
@@Kaizen2013v The Crown Signia is my top choice 🏆but the genuine Japanese sedan earns a very respectable🥈. The Sport fully merits its🥉while the lamentable Sedan/CUV fully deserves🤢.
Heck yeah. The ES is too good to cancel. Like the Camry, the ES is probably going to be a heavily updated version of the current one. But with the Camry so good, the ES must have to be so much better in every way…🤔 It’s Lexus so they’ll do it right.🤞
given that Toyota Camry had an increase of 24hp from fourth gen to fifth gen (208 vs 232) I assume that next gen for the ES, current 215+24=239hp, not too bad. Horse power for the Sienna, RX, NX with fifth gen will have 246+24=270hp maximum. Next gen RAV4 hybrid will have 219+24=243 and RAV4 prime be 302+24=326hp. If the RAV4 hybrid is the standard powertrain in the RAV4 lineup, it will below everybody else out of the water and be game over for all of them.
2:16 come on Lexus… give us the ES500h… put that 2.4T-H AWD in that sedan. U know u want to. 370hp in a Lexus sedan. Ur looking at 0-100 in the mid5s easy. Heck, the RX500h is doing it in 6sec, n thats a 4900lb box.
If it was rear wheel drive I would be down to buy one. I have had two GS cars and currently drive the last generation GS. I like to drive my car in the twisty bits, front wheel cars are not fun in my opinion.
You may have mentioned it, however it appears Lexus is linking their number designation to their 0-60mph time rather then the Power HP. Its weird to me when they have used the 500 designation for everything between 350 to 470hp. There there is the 550 and 600 designation for the GX and LX which don't align again
Is there any slight chance that we could see the Lexus Quad Motor "Direct 4" AWD system in the ES 500e or even in the hybrid? Or will they keep that for their SUV/Crossovers only and just have the tri/duo motor AWDe system that we see in a lot of hybrid cars as an option
Why isn’t the 8th gen ES coming out later this year for 2025 model? Seems like 7th gen will last for 1 year longer (2019-2025) than the 6th gen did (2013-2018) if 8th gen doesn’t start until 2026 model year.
haha, no, it will still be a crappy FWD platform with macpherson struts in front and stamped steel rear suspension. An absolute joke of a car in the lineup of a manufacturer who prided itself on never cutting corners. 15 year old IS, GS replaced with a poshy Camry, and the LS being absolutely ignored. Thats the sedan line of Lexus nowadays. They deserve no attention whatsoever.
Thx for the update. I have a 2021 es300h and love it except for the lack of trunk space. I'm looking to replace it with the NX350h. Just wondering if that model is going to have a makeover next year? any thoughts.
Do not get the NX. It’s not worth the money. The Mazda CX50 will give you the same or more for much less money and takes regular gas. RX>CX50>Forester>RDX>NX
I drove the new Camry and the ES and I am sorry but the Lexus was just perfection personified for comfort and luxury, the new Camry was awesome though and was way better than the Honda Accord, but still the Lexus was just a masterclass, idk why you are saying you get a lexus when you buy the Camry that is so wrong lol
You read the news yesterday that Toyota posters the best ever fuscak year 2023 in the history of all Japanese companies? About 5.3 Billion USD. Total dominance and we expect them to even do better during 2024. Hybrids rule...
Hear me out. UX-F - it'll be based on GR-Corolla. AWD, 6-speed manual or 8-speed automatic(from GR-Yaris). Maybe add electric motor for extra kick. That'd be pretty sweet.
No way is the ES350h going to have 340hp and still get mid 40mpg. Look at the Crown the regular engine it get mid 30mpg the higher performance get high twenties.
now that i think about it, es looking thing was teased as ev before right? Maybe it is that one. Also that fancy Direct 4 system revealed three years ago now where it can be front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and four wheel drive all at the same time with the switch of the dial may be used. There was an SUV in that promotion IIRC🧐🧐. Is this the Lexus EV three-row?? Anyway you slice it everything that was teased the last few years, the puzzle pieces are all coming together now and i am so excited cannot wait😊😊😊
Kinda bummed there wont be a 550h+ (V6) hybrid. The V6 sound nice! Unlike the Germans, I don’t know why Lexus always creates these one-off powertrains (550h+, multi-stage 500h V6 hybrid, V35 in only one sedan) and not spread them throughout the rest of the lineup for consistency and simplicity.
Kirk - At what point in time do you think the Kentucky plant will cease producing the ES 350 V-6 in early 2025 ? You mentioned that ES-350 production assemblers would be assigned new tasks starting in Feb 2025 . Could there be a possible gap in actual production of the ES 350 between the 2024 (Kentucky) & 2025 (Japan) models.
I currently drive a 2019 LS500 and, despite not having the best infotainment system, I love everything else about it; however, I am now highly interested in driving an all electric car. Recently, I have been considering the all-electric BMW 7 Series. My favorite thing about it is that it is an all-electric car that's got all the features of a gasoline-powered vehicle. If the ES electric model materializes and Lexus does not sacrifice features and craftsmanship, like Mercedes Benz has, I might seriously consider it. Great estimations and video.
I would be more surprised if Lexus does not replace the LS with an EV full size luxury sedan as a direct replacement as they are most committed to offering the most sedans
I am currently leasing a 2021 ES350 and my it ends in a couple months. I was really hoping for the redesign to come in for the 2025 model year. I am going to miss the NA V6.
It looks like the latest ES will be better than the 2025 Camry but will not be as luxurious as the 2025 Crown Sedan (2025 RWD Crown which is specifically for the Japanese and Chinese markets) although it could be said that the ES is in the same class as the BMW 5 Series or E-Class, but in Japan it's even a Toyota grub for against the German car instead with the Crown sedan RWD
@@rahimi4762 no , actually in lexus lineup there is no rival with c-class, this is not the size matters tbh, even if there is a rivel for them then the IS series is the one will choosen
I have an IS300h, drove an ES300h recently and really didn't like it, boat like handling and felt very sluggish, can't believe they thought IS300h buyers would move over to ES300h. However, ES350h with better handling, now we're talking!
Es is far bigger than an Is. We have an ES and I think you exaggerate a lot. The Es has hood handling, but is not a sportscar...or sportsedan. It is a very comfortable cruiser.
Grab a Lexus ES now before the smooth, quiet, powerful six cylinder engine is gone! No battery to replace and that engine can last up to 300,000 miles if properly maintained. Plenty of power. Only downside is that its MPG are below the hybrid's.
I never understood why people buy crossovers when they don't do outdoorsy things or need to haul tons of stuff. Most use their hatch hauling the same amount of stuff as someone with a trunk (nothing blocking the rear window). Might as well get a hatchback or a sedan for better handling. I have an Accord, decided to get a roof rack and box instead of buying a rav4/CRV because I realize, I can carry just as much as a crossover with a slight increase in drag. Least I can go back to a good handling sedan if I take the rack off. Never understood the point of crossovers smaller than let say, a highlander. They're taller so its not like you can install a roof box on a rav4 if you also need to park in a garage, my sedan and roof box is only slightly taller than a compact crossover and fit in most garages that can accommodate 6'4" or higher, you would need 7'2" or higher with a crossover if you have a roof box. long story short, sedan + roof box has more storage than compact crossover with needing only 3 inches more of head clearance. Also sedans are cheaper. Only thing I wish my sedan has is a hitch, but thats also extra on most crossovers.
I have a 2023 ES300h Ultra Luxury trim and she is a dream. Good luck getting a new 2026 one, unless you get on a list, they are assembled in Kentucky (non-union shop), and pay a deposit (refundable).
@@KirkKreifels This will definitely limit accessibility to Texas. Texas is a closed system and the four surrounding states for Toyotas. Dealers have to obtain them from the Wholesaler, not Toyota Motors directly. I am not sure about Lexus; however, if they are going to be imported through Los Angeles they will stay mostly on the West Coast. So, we Texas folks are screwed for obtaining any Japanese-made vehicle. Why, well I discussed obtaining a 2023 RX350h or NX350h last year (February 2023) and seven Lexus dealers in Texas told me they wanted a refundable deposit ($2,000), but could not guarantee what I wanted, and said 12 to 15 months wait. I tried to obtain a Venza limited as well and the same story applied and went through the largest dealer in the Houston Area. He could not deliver either.
Trouble with the new Camry is lack of color choice on the interior. The exterior refresh is welcome, but if Camry wants to compete with the new or old ES then more color options. Cannot abide with black or gray or black with red choice. What about a brown or creme or beige or saddle?
Love my 2019 ES359 F-Sport, and was getting really excited to upgrade to the newly designed model. Sadly, if they eliminate the gasoline engine option, I am out. I have no interest in hybrids or all-electric vehicles.
good, but i really hope and pray they bring back some kind of trackpad/touchpad or wheel for controlling the main screen, my arm gets so tired when im fiddling around with it
An ES hybrid with the 2.4 hybrid powertrain will be awesome and if it drives well enough, I'll consider buying one, which would be the first time I'll consider or even recommend a Lexus in my entire life.
Bordering 70 - don't care to be in a hurry, I just want to feel relaxed and refreshed while driving.
I confess that l feel most Lexus buyers are not that excited about 0-60 times like automotive enthusiasts on this page.
Quality, comfort, stability and nimble handling is what we looked for in our past and current Lexus cars.
With a cop at every corner looking to fleece you, speed becomes a luxury rarely enjoyed.😊
driving efficiently(low emissions, high miles per gallon , car longveity and low maintenance sort of mixed into it, ) is like endurance racing , avoiding need for pitstops etc, needing to get places on time but doing so efficiently (or whatever speed you want , if you dont care as much about efficiency). driving efficiently is speeding up especially on more downhill-ish roads at optimal fuel level and engine RPM(RotationPerSecond), steering and braking minimally but smoothly. optimal efficiency for toyota 2.4 inline 4 is 2/3 pedal down in 2k-3k rpm, cvt hybrid maintain constant rpm. not sure whats best to do this in: sport mode, fuel level is more, in eco mode its less. use EV mode if optimal combustion level would speed car too much (often, if car isnt letting you do that without the EV mode, it wont let you us EV mode.) use it a bit from a stop for smooth acceleration then when car is rolling use combustion then maybe use it a bit more. smooth acceleration is part of putting less weight on tires at a moment because:
consider tire wear dust emissions and how much it cost to replace tires (most people are becoming increasingly even poorer than they already are and you can invest money into bigger money)like those "xenoestrogen endocrine disputing forever chemicals micro plastics" etc. apply less weight on tires and you'll allow more of that weight handling ability to be used for having more grip for endurance-race-pitstop-avoiding momentum preservation driving fun in the name of efficiency. being able to feel how close car is to its grip limit is good for this goal, similar to the lotus-car-enjoyers ideal.
this type of driving fun is most safe because its nto as fast as possible but does make you rather aware of driving environment instead of being focused mostly on music/radio/daydreaming/texting, etc
youtubes think flight, julian edgar,etc have videos on improving aerodynamic efficiency of his car.can add anti sway bar , better suspension etc "handling mods" for more momentum around turns, but some of it can make the ride bumpier, louder, etc.
Sounds like a skill issue (I’m kidding)
It’s not that people want to go 0-60 in 2 seconds all the time, it’s that you have to wind up a 4 cylinder before it will even get out of its own way. 6 cylinders are effortlessly smooth and powerful. It makes a much more luxurious sedan. I make an exception for turbos, which I like, but they’re certainly not ever going to be described as smooth. I’d put them in sport sedans, BMWs etc.
@@mervinprone Yeah, supercharging seems like the more obvious choice but there’s arguments to be made that the parasitic draw at the lower RPMs may negate the linear response which is desirable from superchargers.
The average age for a Lexus buyer reported in 2018 by CarMax was 44 and 42 for Toyota. It is true they do not care about performance. I love cars I have been to nascar events and plan to go to the 24 hours of Daytona next year and see Indycar for the first time in my life. The problem is that the average age of these buyers do not spend most of their time on the internet. Us automotive enthusiasts are a very small minority in terms of sales. Yes we make our voices heard on the internet but when the numbers are shown, we are not the ones buying the cars. It is hard to say but us automotive enthusiasts need to let go of 0-60 times and other performance aspects of cars. Our days are not that long left for NA cars. Hybrids and EVs are going to be a thing 10-20 years from now. Will it be full EV? No I do not believe so, I believe that us Americans have deluded ourselves into believing EVs are a saving grace (they are not lol) we will always need NA cars, diesels and hybrids.
I am more of a Honda/Acura guy, but I just bought a 2024 Lexus ES350. I just wanted something that has a V6 because its gonna be going away, not a fan of small engines with turbos. I already have a TLX with the 4 cylinder, but also a TSX in the past.
I hated my ES after coming from Acura brand however this was years ago. Too much Camry. Ride alike too
You’re more of a Honda /Acura guy for what ?
It’s legit confusing. Lexus makes faster and more powerful cars than ACURA. V8 and rear wheel drive car / full SUV nothing Acura have remotely close. On the Honda side nothing nothing exciting outside of the sole Civic Type r. And people talk about this company as if it’s this world beating car brand. Being a Honda/acura guy is like a joke you’re saying that as if it’s something worth mentioning… out of all the auto manufacturers honda and Acura people are the most delusional.
Many like the extra sportiness and looks of the Shawd tlx type s over the es although you lose some room.and luxury respectively and unfortunately no acura hybrid is anywhere to be found which is a huge mistake..
All integrals tlx rdx and mdx should come with hybrid standard
@@Toyota4Life A totally valid viewpoint coming from someone named "Toyota4Life"...
@@Toyota4Life what a surprise that a cult member is confused that there are people who think differently.
I talked to my sales guy at my local lexus. And he told me the the current generation ES brought in a lot of “ younger” clients to the brand.
I rarely see any current gen ESs around. When I do it's never young people. How many early 20 somethings can actually afford 40k+ car these days?
@@baronvonjo1929 by “ younger” he means in their 40s
@@baronvonjo1929 and those that can arent buying a lexus probably a bmw or tesla 😂
@baronvonjo1929 they can in their mid 20s if they're not saving up for a house
@@baronvonjo1929 In my country a lot of people in their 20s save up for a down payment and just pay the monthly payments
If u still want a V6 buy the ES period!
I just hope that next gen ES hybrid keeps the spare wheel
I love this current generation ES. Quite possibly the sharpest one! My dad leased a 2020 ES 350 and then bought a 23 RX 350 because he love the rims on it. It's a shame the V-6 engine is going to be gone :-(
@@jp23baz33 He needed something higher, he's almost 80, and was getting difficult getting out lol but I don't think so. But the RX has so much tech he doesn't know how to use.
This is going to be one of the first new Lexus Sedan designs. What’s crazy is that the current Lexus designs are unique already.
I’m on my fourth es not much different than the first one,,,,Lexus doesn’t make changes often
Please God, no TX grille 🙏🏻
Frankly speaking I am of the view that the global EV market is not gonna boom until they come out with 400 mile real world range EVs that can also charge up to 80 percent in 15 minutes
If Toyota is to be believed this will happen in 2027 when their solid state batteries will be available.
I think that's why many ppl are waiting for the next gen EVs . They will have improvement in the following categories hopefully.
1. Range
2. Charging
3. Price
4. Battery technology
I have a '22 ES300h, this news is fantastic. I would buy an ES PHEV in a heartbeat, especially if it's AWD. With that said I would maybe consider a full EV maybe, we'll see what the specs are. Solid state battery would make that an easier buy. Current EV battery tech is not that great (recharge time etc).
I agree i would buy the a es phev
Is the cabin of the 2025 Camry as quiet as the 2025 ES 350 though?
Great video….as someone enjoying a 10-year-old ES 350, I was always debating if it’s worth shifting into the 2025 Camry or just wait until the new generation ES comes out. I still have a soft spot for the 2GRFE V6. So smooth and shifts like velvety butter
Love my 2013 ES300h
Go with Camry... not trading my 22 ES until new ES refresh.
New Camry is kind of a dog. Motor options not good
I will prefer a 2014 es over a 2025 camry
The ES Hybrid is an amazing car. We bought one new in 2019. Our son inherited from us and it is still rock solid and smooth. We see them all the time operating as airport limos.
I am gonna gift my 17YO son my 2017 ES350 (43k miles on her as of today) in about 2 years and I will be getting the new ES hybrid or a 2-3YO LC500h. Just bought my wife a new 2024 NX350H, our first hybrid and loving it. My daughter will inherit his older brother’s 08 RX350 AWD when she gets her license in 2 years. Lexus family for life, well except a Porsche 911 if i can make retirement at 60 in about 8 years.
I own a recent ES. Love the car, but I'm excited to see what Lexus does. It seems like they can replace the GS with this new ES and combine the best of both worlds.
That was the idea. F sport etc. I don’t know if I’m reaching here, but I’m wondering if the LS will be discontinued. This COULD be a somewhat close vibe as the LS of maxed out? I don’t know yet.
I hate this comparison of the early Lexus models as being a rebadged Camry. It's simply not true. I had an es250 and 300 and they were Camrys on steroids. Just much better interior, quality leather, good soundproofing, etc. You knew what you were getting.
New ES is going to lead the segment in every aspect in which it was lacking ..
Agree
I don’t. Lexus always disappoints.
@@rahimi4762 this is more of a you problem than the actual success of Lexus, sad day for rahimi4762 it seems.
@@iloveanime1313 agree
The ES has always been in its own sub segment as an comfort route Ted sedan that starts in the low 40s, but the closest competitor was the MKZ/Zephyr or STS/XTS or even the TLX
the current one is remarkable car
I'm not excited for a new EV, I'm willing to accept the hybrids. I just won't be letting go of my IS500.
Definitely don't
IS 500? Nah man, never let go of it, instead wait to upgrade to new Lexus LFR V8. Driving experince will only go up.
2026 already jeez, times flies
I know right
It’s about time we get Lexus ES news! Excited for the ES500! Thanks Kirk! Waiting patiently..
seeing the Lexus ES500e gets me excited. I *really* wanna see Lexus make a better EV than the RZ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I own an RZ 450e and it is a wonderful vehicle.
@@mikefucito6030 awful styling, bad fuel economy, stupid yoke steering wheel, overpriced. I love Toyota but a Tesla would’ve been a far better value
The ES has become the LS. Look at how long the original LS was and realize the ES has grown to that size. The new ES could be even longer than the OG 1989 LS. A proper electric with a big enough battery could be a competitive sedan to the Lucid Air and Tesla Model S. They just need to put enough of a battery to match the range in the current ICE ES.
Agree
“500” automatically means 400 hp or more. From what I see.
But for the love of God, where are the new F cars?
Plus back in 2022 Lexus tease a a new f car
Yes please hope lexus comes up with something exciting
Rx500h only has 366hp or so
@@KirkKreifels that’s currently I believe the lowest horsepower 500 model. The rest make over 400hp
The current V6 is already overpowering the front wheels. Putting any more power to the front wheels is pointless. Remember, ES is bacon wrapped Camry, that means we are stuck with FWD. unless full electrification happens …
I have 2016 ES350 and love it...not planning on new at this time.
Finally some good news. With Genesis getting better and the Germans focussing on suvs this could be Lexus’s time. I hope we get it in the UK.
Toyota/lexus doing everything right except showing love to the IS 😭 just give us an updated interior on the IS
I wish Toyota would give the turbo max powertrain to the ES350 f sport with an LSD in the front
This is literally the dream here. PHEV option to plug it in like the prius prime. I'm concerned the 2.5L in the Camry isn't going to be enough for the ES300 base
Plus RWD
The new ES, if tweaked like the new Camry, will be sportier more akin to a GS. What this needs is a 2.4L Hybrid Max with plug-in capability. Until the infra is ready or you live in a SFH, EV just won't sell
The es 500 could be a more efficient GS F
Upcoming Es is going to be even better than ever and excellent video from KRIK like always.❤️👍
Krik is great!
@@dforrest4503 👍
a v8 ES with some electric motors and AWD would go BONKERS
heck, if not v8, and if they somehow kept v6, would still be wild (just a speculative comment)
Thats basically an ES F :D
But it won’t sell
A hybrid V8 would be great!! I've always wondered why they stopped at hybrid V6s.
@@dd4886 coz it will cost 60-70k
Kirk, We will keep our fingers crossed 🤞🤞hoping the fabulous Japanese Crown sedan will come here as our ES! 🤩🤩
They can keep the fuel cell variant in japan
@@KirkKreifels 😛😉
We’re in the minority I feel, but I’d definitely would buy day one. That car was my favourite of all the new crowns released. Fingers crossed 🤞🏾
@@KirkKreifelscould this Lexus be the first with solid state batteries?
@@Kaizen2013v The Crown Signia is my top choice 🏆but the genuine Japanese sedan earns a very respectable🥈. The Sport fully merits its🥉while the lamentable
Sedan/CUV fully deserves🤢.
YESSS!! Finally an ES video update 😊😊
Heck yeah. The ES is too good to cancel. Like the Camry, the ES is probably going to be a heavily updated version of the current one. But with the Camry so good, the ES must have to be so much better in every way…🤔 It’s Lexus so they’ll do it right.🤞
The GS was too good to cancel
@@HalalFoodTherapyRIP GS. I miss it too.
looks like the new ES will be longer, based on the current LS size
@@settlersomanI wonder how Lexus is next planning for the LS.🤔
@@mrgurulittle7000 maybe just discontinue the LS...
es is a fwd, u cant put too much power to just front wheels
The platform supports all wheel drive.
An all in one LS, GS, ES replacement. It will need to be good with many options.
If the 2026 ES has those exact headlights in production I'm buying one just because of that
Now what about the IS?
With Tesla's stock plummeting due to crashing sales, Toyota has a gaping hole to fill in the market.
given that Toyota Camry had an increase of 24hp from fourth gen to fifth gen (208 vs 232) I assume that next gen for the ES, current 215+24=239hp, not too bad. Horse power for the Sienna, RX, NX with fifth gen will have 246+24=270hp maximum. Next gen RAV4 hybrid will have 219+24=243 and RAV4 prime be 302+24=326hp. If the RAV4 hybrid is the standard powertrain in the RAV4 lineup, it will below everybody else out of the water and be game over for all of them.
Kirk, looking into trading my PPrime on '10 Lexus ES with 89K miles.
Congrats!
I was told we are getting a new generation ES this year.
when will we get some IS news? New gen on the way or is it dead?
2:16 come on Lexus… give us the ES500h… put that 2.4T-H AWD in that sedan. U know u want to.
370hp in a Lexus sedan. Ur looking at 0-100 in the mid5s easy. Heck, the RX500h is doing it in 6sec, n thats a 4900lb box.
I swear. This is the best looking lexus ES ever!
If it was rear wheel drive I would be down to buy one.
I have had two GS cars and currently drive the last generation GS. I like to drive my car in the twisty bits, front wheel cars are not fun in my opinion.
I hope all these Lexus 'e' models have some actual new battery technology. At least the bipolar stuff.
LEXUS ES500e - the GR version? I'd buy that....
You may have mentioned it, however it appears Lexus is linking their number designation to their 0-60mph time rather then the Power HP. Its weird to me when they have used the 500 designation for everything between 350 to 470hp. There there is the 550 and 600 designation for the GX and LX which don't align again
I think you said 340 to 350 hp, no worries I’m a professional and understood 😅
Yep! I meant 240-250 😜
should be 240 to 250, right?
So will this have a v6 hybrid or 4 cylinder hybrid?
Is there any slight chance that we could see the Lexus Quad Motor "Direct 4" AWD system in the ES 500e or even in the hybrid? Or will they keep that for their SUV/Crossovers only and just have the tri/duo motor AWDe system that we see in a lot of hybrid cars as an option
@2:05 don’t you mean 240-250hp for the 350h?
Lol yes. That was a slip
I want a ux300e, im sure im alone on that but I want one.
Yeah wish it was sold in the North American market
Why isn’t the 8th gen ES coming out later this year for 2025 model? Seems like 7th gen will last for 1 year longer (2019-2025) than the 6th gen did (2013-2018) if 8th gen doesn’t start until 2026 model year.
Your opinion is yours sir. But that V6 will go for decades before failing. Compared to the turbo engines.
So the new ES will be the new GS but hybrid
The GS hybrid exists too
haha, no, it will still be a crappy FWD platform with macpherson struts in front and stamped steel rear suspension. An absolute joke of a car in the lineup of a manufacturer who prided itself on never cutting corners. 15 year old IS, GS replaced with a poshy Camry, and the LS being absolutely ignored. Thats the sedan line of Lexus nowadays. They deserve no attention whatsoever.
Wish Toyota takes a good copy of this
Thx for the update. I have a 2021 es300h and love it except for the lack of trunk space. I'm looking to replace it with the NX350h. Just wondering if that model is going to have a makeover next year? any thoughts.
Do not get the NX. It’s not worth the money. The Mazda CX50 will give you the same or more for much less money and takes regular gas. RX>CX50>Forester>RDX>NX
Around me a 2025 Camry is going to be +$X,XXX over msrp, a bunch of BS accessories. An ES is -$X,XXX below msrp. Easy decision.
I drove the new Camry and the ES and I am sorry but the Lexus was just perfection personified for comfort and luxury, the new Camry was awesome though and was way better than the Honda Accord, but still the Lexus was just a masterclass, idk why you are saying you get a lexus when you buy the Camry that is so wrong lol
You read the news yesterday that Toyota posters the best ever fuscak year 2023 in the history of all Japanese companies? About 5.3 Billion USD. Total dominance and we expect them to even do better during 2024. Hybrids rule...
Hear me out. UX-F - it'll be based on GR-Corolla. AWD, 6-speed manual or 8-speed automatic(from GR-Yaris). Maybe add electric motor for extra kick. That'd be pretty sweet.
No way is the ES350h going to have 340hp and still get mid 40mpg. Look at the Crown the regular engine it get mid 30mpg the higher performance get high twenties.
now that i think about it, es looking thing was teased as ev before right? Maybe it is that one. Also that fancy Direct 4 system revealed three years ago now where it can be front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and four wheel drive all at the same time with the switch of the dial may be used. There was an SUV in that promotion IIRC🧐🧐. Is this the Lexus EV three-row?? Anyway you slice it everything that was teased the last few years, the puzzle pieces are all coming together now and i am so excited cannot wait😊😊😊
Keep up the hustle brother 👊🏽
We appreciate it 🙏
Kinda bummed there wont be a 550h+ (V6) hybrid. The V6 sound nice! Unlike the Germans, I don’t know why Lexus always creates these one-off powertrains (550h+, multi-stage 500h V6 hybrid, V35 in only one sedan) and not spread them throughout the rest of the lineup for consistency and simplicity.
Test drive the new Camry and a 2021 es300h... Still chose the Lexus. Much smoother and better build quality
Kirk - At what point in time do you think the Kentucky plant will cease producing the ES 350 V-6 in early 2025 ? You mentioned that ES-350 production assemblers would be assigned new tasks starting in Feb 2025 . Could there be a possible gap in actual production of the ES 350 between the 2024 (Kentucky) & 2025 (Japan) models.
I think it is time for Lexus to make some more powerful cars then the Koreans. 😉
Koreans don’t have any powerful vehicles. EV low 0-60 times doesn’t care
I currently drive a 2019 LS500 and, despite not having the best infotainment system, I love everything else about it; however, I am now highly interested in driving an all electric car. Recently, I have been considering the all-electric BMW 7 Series. My favorite thing about it is that it is an all-electric car that's got all the features of a gasoline-powered vehicle. If the ES electric model materializes and Lexus does not sacrifice features and craftsmanship, like Mercedes Benz has, I might seriously consider it. Great estimations and video.
😂😂 I'm done with Lexus, I'm completely satisfied with my 24 NX 350 FSPORT.
Kirk: New ES on the way!!
Take my money 🤑🤑
I’m surprised Lexus is continuing to make sedans
I’m not. Sedans are in the luxury market
I would be more surprised if Lexus does not replace the LS with an EV full size luxury sedan as a direct replacement as they are most committed to offering the most sedans
Great news, a full electric Lexus ES, wow❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
Go Lexus! 💪💯
I am currently leasing a 2021 ES350 and my it ends in a couple months. I was really hoping for the redesign to come in for the 2025 model year. I am going to miss the NA V6.
Why not buy this one out?
I will probably renew and get the 2025. Upon the end of that lease (3 years), I will see what they are offering.
WOW this is HUGE NEWS!!!! Can't wait to see the ES500e!!!!!!! omg
Would be nice to see some trademarks/info on the UX if it exists or if it will go away.
It looks like the latest ES will be better than the 2025 Camry but will not be as luxurious as the 2025 Crown Sedan (2025 RWD Crown which is specifically for the Japanese and Chinese markets) although it could be said that the ES is in the same class as the BMW 5 Series or E-Class, but in Japan it's even a Toyota grub for against the German car instead with the Crown sedan RWD
ES was never in the same class as those cars. Original ES was same class as a C Class just larger.
@@rahimi4762 no , actually in lexus lineup there is no rival with c-class, this is not the size matters tbh, even if there is a rivel for them then the IS series is the one will choosen
@@lightshunshine3861 Actually, the Lexus IS sedan is the challenger to the BMW 3-series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class.
@@johnnymason2460Johnny got it right 🥇
@@lightshunshine3861I think you meant no E class competitor
When you say some thing is coming out in 2026 are you talking about the actual year or will it be released in 2025 as a 2026 model year?
Usually 2025 for the 26 model year. Or early 26
@@Bada_Boom78 I didn’t know if it was the same for future cars but yes you are correct about normal releases. Thanks.
When is the IS 350 going to get some new refreshed love ?!
You rather HAVE a 2022 ES 250/350 or 2025 Camry???
I have an IS300h, drove an ES300h recently and really didn't like it, boat like handling and felt very sluggish, can't believe they thought IS300h buyers would move over to ES300h. However, ES350h with better handling, now we're talking!
Es is far bigger than an Is. We have an ES and I think you exaggerate a lot. The Es has hood handling, but is not a sportscar...or sportsedan. It is a very comfortable cruiser.
Efficiency will probably not be the same. I'm expecting maybe lower 40s instead of upper 40s but that will still be freaking awesome
Grab a Lexus ES now before the smooth, quiet, powerful six cylinder engine is gone! No battery to replace and that engine can last up to 300,000 miles if properly maintained. Plenty of power. Only downside is that its MPG are below the hybrid's.
We have the hybrid ES, excellent engine, smooth, reliable and very very fuel efficient, the v6 is not missed.....
When are we getting a decent / proper F car...? :( Come on Lexus!
I could see 350e and 500e being the short and long range models of the electric ES, where the 350 and 500 being it’s estimated range in miles
How about a plug in hybrid es
if it turns into a crossover like the crown, im gonna cry so hard
Es will stay as a sedan after all it's selling very well
It sells in China so it will stay sedan
I never understood why people buy crossovers when they don't do outdoorsy things or need to haul tons of stuff. Most use their hatch hauling the same amount of stuff as someone with a trunk (nothing blocking the rear window). Might as well get a hatchback or a sedan for better handling. I have an Accord, decided to get a roof rack and box instead of buying a rav4/CRV because I realize, I can carry just as much as a crossover with a slight increase in drag. Least I can go back to a good handling sedan if I take the rack off. Never understood the point of crossovers smaller than let say, a highlander. They're taller so its not like you can install a roof box on a rav4 if you also need to park in a garage, my sedan and roof box is only slightly taller than a compact crossover and fit in most garages that can accommodate 6'4" or higher, you would need 7'2" or higher with a crossover if you have a roof box. long story short, sedan + roof box has more storage than compact crossover with needing only 3 inches more of head clearance. Also sedans are cheaper. Only thing I wish my sedan has is a hitch, but thats also extra on most crossovers.
@@PWCDN you dont actually neeed all that space. crossovers are a scam
@@KirkKreifelsit’s also the best selling luxury sedan in the US
I have a 2023 ES300h Ultra Luxury trim and she is a dream. Good luck getting a new 2026 one, unless you get on a list, they are assembled in Kentucky (non-union shop), and pay a deposit (refundable).
New one is going back to Japan for assembly
@@KirkKreifels This will definitely limit accessibility to Texas. Texas is a closed system and the four surrounding states for Toyotas. Dealers have to obtain them from the Wholesaler, not Toyota Motors directly.
I am not sure about Lexus; however, if they are going to be imported through Los Angeles they will stay mostly on the West Coast. So, we Texas folks are screwed for obtaining any Japanese-made vehicle. Why, well I discussed obtaining a 2023 RX350h or NX350h last year (February 2023) and seven Lexus dealers in Texas told me they wanted a refundable deposit ($2,000), but could not guarantee what I wanted, and said 12 to 15 months wait. I tried to obtain a Venza limited as well and the same story applied and went through the largest dealer in the Houston Area. He could not deliver either.
Trouble with the new Camry is lack of color choice on the interior. The exterior refresh is welcome, but if Camry wants to compete with the new or old ES then more color options. Cannot abide with black or gray or black with red choice. What about a brown or creme or beige or saddle?
Nothing concrete about IS model?
actually kirk corolla cross and the lexus ux already are now equipped with the fifth generation system of the 2.0 prius hybrid
Yes and UX 300h. But I said fifth gen 2.5L. no other Toyota Lexus currently has 5th gen 2.5L hybrid besides Camry
Damn...want the new ES fall 2025, with spare tire and folding down rear seat. My granddaughter is waiting for me to give her my Camry!!!!!
Hopefully WE will See a New Plugin Hybrid Sienna 😮🎉❤😊
Love my 2019 ES359 F-Sport, and was getting really excited to upgrade to the newly designed model. Sadly, if they eliminate the gasoline engine option, I am out. I have no interest in hybrids or all-electric vehicles.
I just hope they get rid of that horrible big behind grill.
good, but i really hope and pray they bring back some kind of trackpad/touchpad or wheel for controlling the main screen, my arm gets so tired when im fiddling around with it
Toyota will never have the sound deadened as Lexus. DOnt get me wrong Toyota is AMAZING..but no Lexus
Does second gen LM350h adopt 4th gen hybrid or 5th gen hybrid? Thank you
4th gen
An ES hybrid with the 2.4 hybrid powertrain will be awesome and if it drives well enough, I'll consider buying one, which would be the first time I'll consider or even recommend a Lexus in my entire life.