I think some people misinterpret the scenes that accompany these fights. These are not direct reflections of how the party members feel about rex; it's quite the opposite. These are a reflection of rex's deepest insecurities about how the party members feel about him.
....which is stupid in hindsight. -rex knows morag dropped everything herself,and willingly chose to spare jin -nia willingly chose to stop talking to rex about her feelings,causing her own strife. -tora had zero complaints that were anything beyond "im hungry" -zeke.....well zeke outright told rex that he's fine with ANY decision he makes.Agreeing that rex has become a well realized driver. This entire segment was retarded in the end.
Betatron Most fears are illogical. Like I fear of being judged by others if I look slightly strange even though many would just glance and not care. Even if they do care, it's only a passing moment and no one speaks out their thoughts to some stranger. My fear is illogical but that stems from a lack of self-confidence. How about Rex? Let's also not forget that this was after Rex and the gang discovered Elysium, a so called promise land, being a barren wasteland. No one might have mentioned anything, but that only builds anxiety 'cause it lets your imagination run wild. No to mention the fact their whole journey to Elysieum was to save Alrest from immanent doom. If their journey ended up for nothing, who would likely be the target for blame? That's likely what Rex is thinking deep down. The fear of failure, rejection, and being the target of blame.
It was alluded to that deep down their own feelings, and possibilities were brought to the surface. Friends say/think shit to each other all the time - part of the game.
To think that while The Architect is saying he is sorry and he is glad he meet his creations, his other self at this exact moment is boasting about how superior he is and how everyone is just food for him.
Why?she never bothered flirting,talking,or playing with him like most girls do when there interested.Hiding your feelings doesnt gove you a free pass to love.
Nia's character arc is much more subtle than Pyra's/Mythra's are. "Slow burn", as some folks would call it. Over the course of several Heart-to-Hearts and other scenes, she steadily builds up her own crush on Rex (it's not nearly as quick or upfront as Pyra and Mythra are either, you DO have to kind of look for it). Of course not very long before this, Nia fesses up and says she loves him, and Rex's fears of Nia are basically him being worried that she resents him for not returning her feelings. Rex isn't dense OR stupid, he knows full-well how she feels about him. It just wasn't the time or place for it though, and he already had his own feelings for Pyra/Mythra instead.
@@Vargras_ There's also the fact that Nia saw the constant back and forth between Pyra/Mythra and Rex. She couldn't make her move, she couldn't reveal anything, because it could strain their relationship. Which is why all her feelings boiled to the surface, the one time Pyra/Mythra weren't with the group. And it wasn't a scene where they were just in another room. Pyra/Mythra were gone, and gone for an extended period of time. Nia probably constantly weighed the opportunities in her mind. "I know he's still pining for Pyra. So perhaps i should just leave things as is." "Then again, what if Pyra really does die, if i confessed, he would know where to turn" "But if i do confess and everything goes alright, i could hurt the team." "But then again, right now he has no one, someone needs to be his support...I...could be that support." Remember, even before he was gunning for the 3rd blade, he was knocked out for 2 days. That gave plenty of time for Nia to sit and stew in her thoughts and emotions. She was fully aware that the two of them were gone. As far as she was aware as well, no other female in the group had anything for Rex. Morag was too much into her job and title, Poppi had Tora, Pandoria had Zeke, and Brighid was more a mother figure to the team. Even after he got his renewed vigor, he was still without them. Which is why it's the opportune time for her to also reveal stuff about her past, build upon the confession with even more confessions. She was testing the waters, seeing how he would react as she confessed more and more about her life to him. Eventually, the final test was her as a blade, the secret she kept most of all, but was still a long line of confessions that eventually resulted in her confession of love. Part of it was testing the waters, and part of it was just a train that lost it's breaks. When she started that confession line, it eventually got to the point where she couldn't stop. The other thing i will say was that the Spirit Crucible Elpys also had an effect on this because the suppression of ether probably added on to the fact of making Nia feeling suppressed. It was just more pressure added onto her to finally let go and let it all come out.
@@heropontorchic1979 I thought Gramps was the saddest one. Never fun feeling like a side character in someone else's story, especially when than someone is supposed to care about you.
Ironically for me Nia was hard because I was given crap blades so had to change up and beat her on the second try, Morag was a bit hard, had to fight her like 5 times but then Tora and Zeke was easy, I beat them first try.
fernando98322 I see how you have your condolences and anyways Vandham didn’t come to Elysium with Rex unlike anyone else. Anyways Roc was returned to his core and reborn and Monolith wouldn’t want to use Roc for his blade if he lost his memories. Nothing is wasted here. There’s a reason why Rex didn’t fight Vandham.
Well, Klaus speech explains a lot about why this game looks like anime and so different from the first. Basically this part of him went full hikikomori and NEET, and decided to create what he thought was ideal world: anime world that is full of waifu
Well, scientists that struggle to get into relationships usually do have some really perverted ideas to suppress their frustration in not being able to have sex. I do believe that Klaus is following the exact same deal.
It's heartwarming, yet feels so disturbing and wrong. The Pyra and Mythra scene is honestly the most creepy and sad one for me compared to the rest of the nightmare sequences.
Nia: "Deep down I resent Rex for ignoring my feelings" Morag: "Deep down I blame Rex for being reckless and immature." Tora: "Deep down I envy Rex for effortlessly becoming a Driver which I never could" Zeke: "Deep down I'm angry at Rex for squandering power that could have been put to a better use" Pyra & Mythra: "Deep down we just want to be Rex's harem"
@@ZorotheGallade ...Ok but aren't these actually projections of Rex's insecurities and how he thinks the characters feel about him, not how they actually feel deep down?
The case is even worse for Nia, she flat out told Rex that she loved him, and he said "I love you too" only a few seconds and then say "I love you.... and all you gus"
SonicMaster211 in this video his reaction to Nia shadow also really bad by running away when she said she want to be notice and Rex only have eyes for Pyra .The architect said that those shadow are the hidden feeling
The dinner scene show two things.1. Rex only wish and dream is to be together with Pyra and Mythra.2. He wish deep inside him that both of them act a little more like the other, Mythra be more kind and nice and Pyra be more asertive and direct. Man the romance in this game was amazing.
also, that tender sweet moment at the end of the gut wrenching reminded me of spongebob when he had a nightmare about krabby patties "Remember Rex, I'll always be with you, right here." "In my heart" "Actually in the Core Crystal"
Actually, I think that is more Pyra's and Mythra's wish. This scene consists of Rex being faced with illusions of his friends' deepest feelings, not his own desires. If it was like that, then this scene would be implying that Rex, deep inside, actually wishes all of his friends hated him.
Not quite. The scene is all of Rex's deepest FEARS about each of the party members. He's scared that Nia resents him for not returning her feelings, scared that Morag will blame him for Mor Ardain, and scared that Zeke and Tora are jealous of him being the Master Driver. Then he gets to Pyra and Mythra, who both SEEM normal... except their personalities are totally swapped, and it seems to be the breaking point for the poor kid.
He also sees them as two different, separate blades when i felt like it was not so long ago he claimed they were the same person and never really thought of them as separate, or so he tells Zeke. Plus the game was pushing you into seeing them as two separate characters the moment mythra made her appearance. And wasn't this the first time we're directly told mythra can't cook, or was there a heart to heart mentioning it somewhere? I can't really remember, its been awhile since ive played. This moment was so surreal and depressing I couldn't really laugh about it at the time either.
Now we know how the first game and this one are connected, Klaus was split to Alrest and Bionis. And he's dying in Alrest due to Shulk and the party there destroying him there.
Csanortious Funny how the only Xeno game that didn’t need a sequel at all got one. It was my main worry about XB2. I’m pretty sure they never planned a sequel when developing XB1. At least, it turned out less awful than I thought it could be. But still... sigh... I’m never a fan of unplanned sequels banking on the popularity of finished self contained games. Can often lead to nonsense retcons.
So I am guessing it was this point where Shulk started fighting the ghost bosses, in his story. Also if there was a moment like this in XC, Shulk would be fighting Melia for the same reason as Nia.
Imagine if Vandham was here. I have a pretty good idea. (After Fighting Zeke And Tora) Rex:Wh...what the? I’m in Uraya again. But still,why is this all happening?! ???:Well,well,well. What do we have here? Rex:Who’s there? C...can it be?! Vandham:Rex. I see you’ve been treating Roc well. Rex:Wh...what?! You’re supposed to be dead! Vandham:Is what I would be saying... Rex:Huh? Vandham:IF YOU HAD PROTECTED PYRA WELL! Rex:What?! But I... Vandham:I’d been watching you from above,and this is what I see! The comrade I “entrusted” the Aegis and my partner to,LEADING HIS FRIENDS TO A BLOODY NOTHING! Roc:Yeah! I WISH YOU NEVER AWAKENED ME! (Battle Begins. You for some reason don’t have Roc with you. Vandham has all his Arts from his Boss Fight but they’ve been buffed up to Level 3-4 or so. His level has also increased to equal yours) REX:Please! Just stop all this! Vandham:AND WHY?! So you can keep on lying to your friends,REX! Roc:Because of you,all our comrades in Uraya are dead! Vandham:Yew,Zuo,their Blades,ALL MY MERCENARY FRIENDS! THEY’RE ALL DEAD! Roc:I wish I was buried with my Driver! By that I mean...my good one! Rex:What’re you talking about! You’ve all gone mad! (The ground crumbles under him,causing Rex to fall,landing on Azurda,where he ended up normally.)
People go on about Morytha being scary. THIS did it for me. Things involving the hero’s insecurities being used as a test always do it for me. Then, I was all, “GOD FUCKING DAMN IT! STOP ATTACKING ME SO MUCH, MÒRAG!!!” Then, I used Kora’s passive healing by running away from the enemy...
I'm assuming that the others visions are these. Nia: everyone abandoned her calling her a freak and rex calling her a monster and her father badmouthing her for her failure. Morag watching mor ardain falling into the cloud sea and nail dying in his arm saying that it's her fault for abandoning them all Tora: seeing poppy destroyed his dad actually dead on the floor and the other leaving him behind saying that he is no driver. Zeke: genbu and all it's people dying pandora and his father disowning him calling him a false and useless hero.
It’s seems to be heavily implied to be alvis. Both Aegis’ weapons look like the Monado (with Malos even using several Monado arts) and Alvis says that he’s like the soul of the physical Monado blade (similar to the relationship between a blade and their weapon).
The part where everyone's subconscious fears were laid bare in front of Rex was a stark contrast to the whole "FRIENDSHIP POWER" thing they had going up until that point. Even Tora wasn't unaffected. "Rex-Rex bad friend", "I tried hard to become a Driver". Holy shit. And Nia practically begging for Rex to notice her was... actually kind of heartbreaking. Felt so bad having to beat her up.
It’s Rex’s fears about what his friends think of him. Not the subconscious fears of his friends. There’s a difference. It’s very possible that they didn’t actually harbor those feelings. Rex only fears that they do, and that’s what these visions represent.
@@shadestrider1033 I agree with you. I'd gotten into a fair few debates since I made this comment, and people swayed me. Them being Rex's own subconscious fears makes more sense.
I wonder what the rest of the cast saw in those visions? They must have been specialised if the architect said they were to examine the contents of their hearts. Anyone got any ideas?
This boss fight makes me regret not using Rex more. He is 1 or 2 levels behind everybody. Morag KO's me very quickly every time. I've tried several times and I never survive long enough to do much of anyghing.
This very moment was so painful. I don’t care about how difficult it was in beating them but rather that this was unfair to Rex. The Architect puts that kid into a FREAKING MENTAL HELL!! Even his friends in reality admitted that those things they’ve seen were horrifying to look at. Yes these were alternate possibilities like the opposite of Rex’s closest friends but what was the point? To make him suffer?! These are the same people that fought alongside Rex and pushed him to move forward, even gave him a few beatings so that he could go back to being the same person they were following all this time during the time he gave up after Pyra was abducted. Just how sadistic does someone have to be to actually enjoy this bullshit?
Well, a scientist that can destroy the entire world of the modern age can definitely be sadistic enough to let a boy suffer while his friends, girlfriends, and crush are also having a hell of a bad time.
I think it would be cool if you could have fought Vandham too. Like he says something like “Rex! How could you let me die? You stole everything from me!” etc etc. Also, I feel like it would have made perfect sense to fight a krabble in the gramps scene, like the first krabble you fought at the start of the game but leveled up.
So I am confusion... WHY IS POPPI MEAN MEAN? BUT MYTHRA IS NOT BEING MEAN MEAN? NINTENDO EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN! WHAT DO YOU MEAN REX REX IS MEAN?! I watch too much vines. 21:05 Everyone hates on the voice acting, but this part was well done.
I still wonder what the rest of the party saw, they also mention "not pleasant visions", but we don't ever get to even hear a description beyond that, what could've the others seen?
“Omg this boss was so hard” “I’m XC2&1 are related omg!!11!one!!” How about just struggling to get through these battles because you are literally being put up against your own friends?
The fight against Nia pained me the most. It was very sudden and it was after she basically just yelled "Notice me you fucking idiot". A catgirl in love was a painful thing to put down.
Takytivarg Morag is the most painful, For Nia, you just needed good heal arts and it wouldn’t be so hard, yeah I hated how she could heal twice but....still. Morag is too OP that fight is broken, beat her with Nim and I suppose Ursula too. Wasn’t easy. I died to Nia a few times just to realize what I was doing wrong and wasted one round of just error. Zeke and Tora was cake. Got it first try.
Nah fuck them.They had zero reason to bitch in either the real world or even rex's mind/deep insecurities.Anyone could see that if they actually thought about it gor more than 5 seconeds.
You know, sense everybody had these fever dreams just like Rex, I wonder what everyone else experienced in theirs? I dunno, I’m just curious, I guess. Like what did Nia’s fever dream look like? Pyra’s? Mythra’s? Tora’s? Poppi’s? Morag’s?
I don't get why they say it's Rex's fault. He didn't know jack and shit about elisium like the rest of them.(i know he saw a vision about elisium when he met pyra, but if the others followed rex just for his words and turns out it didn't look like it seemed? Everyone else has the blame for blindly following a not to sure story. Rex is not the one to blame really.) It really bugged me why they keep blamin rex. Even if it's their true feelings, it doesnt make any sense!
The cutscene after the fight with Zeke and Tora was so damn long!!! When I played the game way back in January last year, I got like 3 minutes in and fell asleep. By the time I woke up, this damn thing was STILL going! I’d rather watch a bunch of unskippable credits than a 30 minute cinematic...
I mean, you get some really important exposition, not sure what would compel you to fall asleep unless you were being metaphorical but I doubt that, sounds like you just have to keep your attention focused for long enough
The fight with Nia physically hurt me the way Rex don’t understand what she feels about him is really sad she dropped hints to but he was like “huh?” I like to assume they end up together but YEARS after the endgame similarly to Naruto and Hinata in that it took Naruto FOREVER to realize what Hinata felt N before people come at me teeth and claws out I’m just rambling so if you’re going to comment don’t make it be like “TRASH” or some unoriginal stuff like that
Azuke Namik Thing is, he actually *does* understand, but since he doesn't feel the same he chooses to act oblivious about it. That's what that fight was about, what this whole scene is about, Rex coming face to face with his frends' deepest feelings which in turn is his greatest fear, the fear of hurting someone you care about. That's the reason he plays dumb with Nia, cause he doesn't want to hurt her, that's the reason why he ran away from her illusion, cause he was being faced with having hurt one of his best Friends so much beause he couldn't feel the same for her.
**Spoiler** Entonces...la mitad de Klaus esta en el universo de Xenoblade Chronicles 1 en el momento de su declive en la batalla de Shulk, el 3er Blade "controlador" Ontos aparece en Xenoblade Chronicles X.
Sep, luego de ver no solo los bosses creo que el universo de Xenoblade X no tiene casi ni incidencia en este Xenoblade chronicles 2 asi que quizás alvis si sea Ontos
This gave me an idea along in smt4 apocalypse. In rpgs with a party you decide to go for the bad ending and the party feels betrayed and are after you with an intense bloodlist.
17:18 that hit hard. im always worried about how my future will be i imagine it will be boring worrying agonizing and lonely at my 40s 50s or 60s so it hurted so much
While the dubbing is still in questioning, everyone wanted a go at attacking rex's actor especially. Yet here the game is doing it. Interesting how a story can play out to any character.
Hang on a second...in my playthrough, nia was level 67 and zeke was 69. That's cool but a bit difficult cause all of these fights kicked my ass if i didn't have roc and the sapphire
What is the load out here? Morag is doing no damage to you here but she fucking damn near insta-kills me each time. What accessories, aux cores and chips are being used?
Wait so you mean I made everyone op for rex to be crushed "I like your attitude" turned into "DON'T FORGET ME!" And why was everyone mad at rex plus what core chips did you use for roc
I honestly got through this easy since I used Aegeon and just rushed through them by spamming driver arts, using specials as soon as they're available, 3 star pouch items and occasionally switching to my healer.
Kevin Mo There’s no reason to assume that the world’s couldn’t cooexist. Though that WOULD be kinda funny, since that would mean that SHULK was the one who got wisked to the promised land, and REX the one who put it together.
Morag killed me. Because I didn't have a single healing blade equiped with Rex, so I had to win faster. But Morag evades everything. In second round I just equiped Floren.
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I think some people misinterpret the scenes that accompany these fights. These are not direct reflections of how the party members feel about rex; it's quite the opposite. These are a reflection of rex's deepest insecurities about how the party members feel about him.
....which is stupid in hindsight.
-rex knows morag dropped everything herself,and willingly chose to spare jin
-nia willingly chose to stop talking to rex about her feelings,causing her own strife.
-tora had zero complaints that were anything beyond "im hungry"
-zeke.....well zeke outright told rex that he's fine with ANY decision he makes.Agreeing that rex has become a well realized driver.
This entire segment was retarded in the end.
Betatron
Most fears are illogical. Like I fear of being judged by others if I look slightly strange even though many would just glance and not care. Even if they do care, it's only a passing moment and no one speaks out their thoughts to some stranger. My fear is illogical but that stems from a lack of self-confidence. How about Rex? Let's also not forget that this was after Rex and the gang discovered Elysium, a so called promise land, being a barren wasteland. No one might have mentioned anything, but that only builds anxiety 'cause it lets your imagination run wild. No to mention the fact their whole journey to Elysieum was to save Alrest from immanent doom. If their journey ended up for nothing, who would likely be the target for blame? That's likely what Rex is thinking deep down. The fear of failure, rejection, and being the target of blame.
@@bearandthebull2372 Bullshit. This scene made completely sense.
@@summerycast7936 You've explained it very well :-)
It was alluded to that deep down their own feelings, and possibilities were brought to the surface.
Friends say/think shit to each other all the time - part of the game.
To think that while The Architect is saying he is sorry and he is glad he meet his creations, his other self at this exact moment is boasting about how superior he is and how everyone is just food for him.
What if there was a Shulk secret boss fight think about it would be awesome
But why would Shulk fight Rex?
i dont know it would be epic
shacharco87 it would be cooler against zanza
Well I vote for Shulk.
"you've only got eyes for her!"
Jesus that hit me hard
Why?she never bothered flirting,talking,or playing with him like most girls do when there interested.Hiding your feelings doesnt gove you a free pass to love.
Nia's character arc is much more subtle than Pyra's/Mythra's are. "Slow burn", as some folks would call it. Over the course of several Heart-to-Hearts and other scenes, she steadily builds up her own crush on Rex (it's not nearly as quick or upfront as Pyra and Mythra are either, you DO have to kind of look for it).
Of course not very long before this, Nia fesses up and says she loves him, and Rex's fears of Nia are basically him being worried that she resents him for not returning her feelings. Rex isn't dense OR stupid, he knows full-well how she feels about him. It just wasn't the time or place for it though, and he already had his own feelings for Pyra/Mythra instead.
@Myy100 read this with Nia's voice.
I d i a t
@@Vargras_ There's also the fact that Nia saw the constant back and forth between Pyra/Mythra and Rex. She couldn't make her move, she couldn't reveal anything, because it could strain their relationship. Which is why all her feelings boiled to the surface, the one time Pyra/Mythra weren't with the group. And it wasn't a scene where they were just in another room. Pyra/Mythra were gone, and gone for an extended period of time. Nia probably constantly weighed the opportunities in her mind.
"I know he's still pining for Pyra. So perhaps i should just leave things as is."
"Then again, what if Pyra really does die, if i confessed, he would know where to turn"
"But if i do confess and everything goes alright, i could hurt the team."
"But then again, right now he has no one, someone needs to be his support...I...could be that support."
Remember, even before he was gunning for the 3rd blade, he was knocked out for 2 days. That gave plenty of time for Nia to sit and stew in her thoughts and emotions. She was fully aware that the two of them were gone. As far as she was aware as well, no other female in the group had anything for Rex. Morag was too much into her job and title, Poppi had Tora, Pandoria had Zeke, and Brighid was more a mother figure to the team. Even after he got his renewed vigor, he was still without them.
Which is why it's the opportune time for her to also reveal stuff about her past, build upon the confession with even more confessions. She was testing the waters, seeing how he would react as she confessed more and more about her life to him. Eventually, the final test was her as a blade, the secret she kept most of all, but was still a long line of confessions that eventually resulted in her confession of love. Part of it was testing the waters, and part of it was just a train that lost it's breaks. When she started that confession line, it eventually got to the point where she couldn't stop.
The other thing i will say was that the Spirit Crucible Elpys also had an effect on this because the suppression of ether probably added on to the fact of making Nia feeling suppressed. It was just more pressure added onto her to finally let go and let it all come out.
Welp
Imagine fighting Vandham's ghost saying "you're war cost many lives Rex" :(
devilfacethedarklord I can imagine him scolding Rex for letting him die and insulting Rex for stealing everything from him (i.e Merc Group, Roc etc.)
I would've cried. I was VERY close to crying in the Morag and Gramps part.
Bravely Phoenix Vandahm saying something like that? Nah...
He likes Rex, he probably would be proud of him...
.....a war that rex never started nor knew about.That would fall under fake morags bitching about "your the reason the soldiers died".
@@heropontorchic1979 I thought Gramps was the saddest one. Never fun feeling like a side character in someone else's story, especially when than someone is supposed to care about you.
It's great realizing that Xenoblade 1's story is happening at the exact same time as this story.
That means there's a way of crossing the dimensions.
Steel4 Would be interesting if they made a Xenoblade 1.5 that combined both stories, though that would be a bit complicated
memeslolhaha or better yet. Shulk as a blade!! I know the chances of that happening are slim. But just imagine how cool that would be!
Steel4 what if there's a third game of Shulk and Rex teaming up.
Heh.
About that...
Rex wash your hands
*eats food while wearing gloves anyway*
IronBahamut and we never see him take it off...
Oh my god! His hands are the gloves!!
@@oh4835 Like Sonic
these fights were insultingly difficult
Especially Nia,Zeke and Tora. Nia can heal herself and Zeke/Tora is a 2 vs 1
Bruh
Their health bars fall really fast making it a little easier
Ironically for me Nia was hard because I was given crap blades so had to change up and beat her on the second try, Morag was a bit hard, had to fight her like 5 times but then Tora and Zeke was easy, I beat them first try.
I beat them all first try.
Nia: (curses Rex's existence and how pointless the entire quest was)
Also Nia: (silly cat dance for Dromarch)
*"I like your attitude"*
Wasted opportunity to not have Vandham fight Rex. I was so sure he'd be the final fight in this section. Sad I was wrong
fernando98322 I'm not sure I would be able to handle that
fernando98322 I feel if Pyra was mad at Rex at the end it would be really heart-breaking
fernando98322 You can’t really fight something if it’s dead.
fernando98322 I see how you have your condolences and anyways Vandham didn’t come to Elysium with Rex unlike anyone else. Anyways Roc was returned to his core and reborn and Monolith wouldn’t want to use Roc for his blade if he lost his memories. Nothing is wasted here. There’s a reason why Rex didn’t fight Vandham.
NO ONE WOULD BE OKAY!
Well, Klaus speech explains a lot about why this game looks like anime and so different from the first. Basically this part of him went full hikikomori and NEET, and decided to create what he thought was ideal world: anime world that is full of waifu
I-
...well, you know what, I suppose i don't have any counter evidence
@@spindash64 well I mean now you do
I never thought there would be a story reason why Xenoblade 2 looks so different from Xenoblade 1.
Well, scientists that struggle to get into relationships usually do have some really perverted ideas to suppress their frustration in not being able to have sex. I do believe that Klaus is following the exact same deal.
The scene with Pyrrha, Mythra, and Rex at the dinner table was super heartwarming, as was the scene when the whole group met the Architect.
Gautam Sarathy ...It’s Pyra...
Johnny Caceres Whoops. Easy mistake to make. Especially since both are rather similar.
DarkSonic180 That's true.
Monolith apparently took up a job as a Postal service, because they be shipping
It's heartwarming, yet feels so disturbing and wrong. The Pyra and Mythra scene is honestly the most creepy and sad one for me compared to the rest of the nightmare sequences.
Never hurt Welsh Cat Girl
Current pfp checks out.
“Do as you wish” the signature line of that man.
Actually it was, “do as you please”
Frankly, if Rex had to face a trial of this sort vs Pyra... I don't think he could take it.
Nia: "Deep down I resent Rex for ignoring my feelings"
Morag: "Deep down I blame Rex for being reckless and immature."
Tora: "Deep down I envy Rex for effortlessly becoming a Driver which I never could"
Zeke: "Deep down I'm angry at Rex for squandering power that could have been put to a better use"
Pyra & Mythra: "Deep down we just want to be Rex's harem"
@@ZorotheGallade ...Ok but aren't these actually projections of Rex's insecurities and how he thinks the characters feel about him, not how they actually feel deep down?
@@reptiliannoizezz.413 Eh, unno. Narration wasn't the best suit of XC2.
Deep inside, no girl wants to be the "Melia".
The case is even worse for Nia, she flat out told Rex that she loved him, and he said "I love you too" only a few seconds and then say "I love you.... and all you gus"
SonicMaster211 in this video his reaction to Nia shadow also really bad by running away when she said she want to be notice and Rex only have eyes for Pyra .The architect said that those shadow are the hidden feeling
The epic friendzone lol..
Heropon Riki
In other words, he knows, but since he’s already decided, he’s obfuscating stupidity
*P O O R M E L I A*
The dinner scene show two things.1. Rex only wish and dream is to be together with Pyra and Mythra.2. He wish deep inside him that both of them act a little more like the other, Mythra be more kind and nice and Pyra be more asertive and direct.
Man the romance in this game was amazing.
also, that tender sweet moment at the end of the gut wrenching reminded me of spongebob when he had a nightmare about krabby patties
"Remember Rex, I'll always be with you, right here."
"In my heart"
"Actually in the Core Crystal"
Carbon is good for you!
Actually, I think that is more Pyra's and Mythra's wish. This scene consists of Rex being faced with illusions of his friends' deepest feelings, not his own desires. If it was like that, then this scene would be implying that Rex, deep inside, actually wishes all of his friends hated him.
Not quite. The scene is all of Rex's deepest FEARS about each of the party members. He's scared that Nia resents him for not returning her feelings, scared that Morag will blame him for Mor Ardain, and scared that Zeke and Tora are jealous of him being the Master Driver. Then he gets to Pyra and Mythra, who both SEEM normal... except their personalities are totally swapped, and it seems to be the breaking point for the poor kid.
He also sees them as two different, separate blades when i felt like it was not so long ago he claimed they were the same person and never really thought of them as separate, or so he tells Zeke. Plus the game was pushing you into seeing them as two separate characters the moment mythra made her appearance. And wasn't this the first time we're directly told mythra can't cook, or was there a heart to heart mentioning it somewhere? I can't really remember, its been awhile since ive played. This moment was so surreal and depressing I couldn't really laugh about it at the time either.
Now we know how the first game and this one are connected, Klaus was split to Alrest and Bionis. And he's dying in Alrest due to Shulk and the party there destroying him there.
Dang, and they said Xenoblade 2 has nothing to do with Xenoblade 1. Now what do we have here?!
Nah, that's what everyone though towards the release of XC2. Monolith Soft have never said that XC2 was not connected to XC1 story
A Semi-alternate-timeline-prequel.
Well, it's not a direct sequel, but an adjacent story taking place alongside the original. Similar to the other side of a coin.
Csanortious Funny how the only Xeno game that didn’t need a sequel at all got one. It was my main worry about XB2. I’m pretty sure they never planned a sequel when developing XB1. At least, it turned out less awful than I thought it could be. But still... sigh... I’m never a fan of unplanned sequels banking on the popularity of finished self contained games. Can often lead to nonsense retcons.
SupaRook Studios An exact Parallel to the original game
So I am guessing it was this point where Shulk started fighting the ghost bosses, in his story. Also if there was a moment like this in XC, Shulk would be fighting Melia for the same reason as Nia.
yes and Zanza is Klaus's other self the moxie he felt of creating a universe that took shape as the soul of Bionis is also nearing its end
Actually there isn't such a moment in the first game.
Max... re-read my comment.
SonicMaster211 My bad
Seems to early for that. This is either fighting Lorithia or the party barely starting their climb up Prison Island.
Imagine if Vandham was here. I have a pretty good idea.
(After Fighting Zeke And Tora)
Rex:Wh...what the? I’m in Uraya again. But still,why is this all happening?!
???:Well,well,well. What do we have here?
Rex:Who’s there? C...can it be?!
Vandham:Rex. I see you’ve been treating Roc well.
Rex:Wh...what?! You’re supposed to be dead!
Vandham:Is what I would be saying...
Rex:Huh?
Vandham:IF YOU HAD PROTECTED PYRA WELL!
Rex:What?! But I...
Vandham:I’d been watching you from above,and this is what I see! The comrade I “entrusted” the Aegis and my partner to,LEADING HIS FRIENDS TO A BLOODY NOTHING!
Roc:Yeah! I WISH YOU NEVER AWAKENED ME!
(Battle Begins. You for some reason don’t have Roc with you. Vandham has all his Arts from his Boss Fight but they’ve been buffed up to Level 3-4 or so. His level has also increased to equal yours)
REX:Please! Just stop all this!
Vandham:AND WHY?! So you can keep on lying to your friends,REX!
Roc:Because of you,all our comrades in Uraya are dead!
Vandham:Yew,Zuo,their Blades,ALL MY MERCENARY FRIENDS! THEY’RE ALL DEAD!
Roc:I wish I was buried with my Driver! By that I mean...my good one!
Rex:What’re you talking about! You’ve all gone mad!
(The ground crumbles under him,causing Rex to fall,landing on Azurda,where he ended up normally.)
this is great but the you are supposed to be dead part is not something rex would say imo
Nice but I'd think Rex would say "You're alive? But you sacrificed-"
Morag was a monster in this fight.
Agreed. If the game hadn't automatically equipped Godfrey to me I would have died to her. Iron Wall saved my ass.
I equipped Godfrey and Kasandra and Iron Wall stalled her
My issue was that I didn't have Godfrey unlocked at this part. This game's RNG progression system is pretty broken like that.
Literally any hammer user would suffice, even a common blade. I doubt you went the whole game without getting a single one.
Xillogean
I just steamrolled her with max affinity Praxis. She kicked Morag's ass. I had about 2/3 of my health remaining.
Meanwhile, Shulk wishes a world with no gods.
The scene with Gramps creeped me the fuck out
"IS THAT ALL I AM MEANT TO BE!?"
*peers over at rex with bulging eyes and a slightly crazed grin*
damn so is this why those Melia memes keep showing up on Tumblr for Nia? interesting....
Yup! In the Phantasm boss, Nia told Rex that she loved him after revealing herself as a Blade/Flesh-Eater.
SonicMaster211 oh shit! lol well she got further than Melia ever did by admitting it.
Jordan Maessen True that.
Hate how best girl gets shafted each game
Yeah, really hated how Boreas was given no focus
-Nia's lines in the battle were painful to hear ;-;
and Mòrag's words were full of fury
Am I the only one who used Electra against the party member bosses? Gotta love Defense Wall.
Nope
People go on about Morytha being scary. THIS did it for me. Things involving the hero’s insecurities being used as a test always do it for me. Then, I was all, “GOD FUCKING DAMN IT! STOP ATTACKING ME SO MUCH, MÒRAG!!!” Then, I used Kora’s passive healing by running away from the enemy...
Morag was tough.... Harder than the final boss. Felt good to finally beat her. I leveled up Roc and was able to barely get through it.
The whole time Rex was with Mythra and Pyra, I was waiting for him to offend her with poor table manners.
And that's how that fight starts.
I'm assuming that the others visions are these.
Nia: everyone abandoned her calling her a freak and rex calling her a monster and her father badmouthing her for her failure.
Morag watching mor ardain falling into the cloud sea and nail dying in his arm saying that it's her fault for abandoning them all
Tora: seeing poppy destroyed his dad actually dead on the floor and the other leaving him behind saying that he is no driver.
Zeke: genbu and all it's people dying pandora and his father disowning him calling him a false and useless hero.
Actually:
Zeke: The gravestone of Turters.
"Also Ontos opened a space time anomaly and was lost forever"- That;s some finger-lickin' good sequel bait
Unless he's referring to Alvis I guess
Yeah I kind of realized the second after I posted, and I feel like a right foolish heir to the Monado indeed
Or one of the other Xeno series
It’s seems to be heavily implied to be alvis. Both Aegis’ weapons look like the Monado (with Malos even using several Monado arts) and Alvis says that he’s like the soul of the physical Monado blade (similar to the relationship between a blade and their weapon).
MortumInfinitum that's only implied. don't spread false information
The part where everyone's subconscious fears were laid bare in front of Rex was a stark contrast to the whole "FRIENDSHIP POWER" thing they had going up until that point. Even Tora wasn't unaffected. "Rex-Rex bad friend", "I tried hard to become a Driver". Holy shit.
And Nia practically begging for Rex to notice her was... actually kind of heartbreaking. Felt so bad having to beat her up.
It’s Rex’s fears about what his friends think of him. Not the subconscious fears of his friends.
There’s a difference. It’s very possible that they didn’t actually harbor those feelings. Rex only fears that they do, and that’s what these visions represent.
@@shadestrider1033 I agree with you.
I'd gotten into a fair few debates since I made this comment, and people swayed me. Them being Rex's own subconscious fears makes more sense.
Did Morag kill anyone else like 6 times but everyone else was a piece of cake
Morag was pretty easy the only one i had trouble with was zeke and tora but that might be beacuse my team was
Adanine
Roc
Godfrey
Morag hardest boss in the game.
Morag was not hard, at least, when I faced her. I used Electra.
Asher so true
I think its the last jin fight
SilverRain for Jin just use the ascended form, there’s time before he’s enraged to build up a Chain Attack. Now Amalthus is another question.
Xando S just use pyra/mythra third form and chain attack
Pyra being like Mythra and Mythra being like Pyra...
It's not just emotional it's... straight up funny!
This was quite difficult without my companions but fortunately Kora’s healing really helped me out
Yeah I used nim for those vision boss fights. I like to call it health stalling.
“Yeah,their clean”
Yeah,even though he just washed his hands with probably his gloves on,their probably clean...
Although I knew everything would be ok in the end, it still hit me in the feels.
I love this!! I think it could have been more impactful if Vandham had appeared and said it was his fault that he died
Yea I deadass thought he was gonna be the last fight in this it would’ve hit so hard
I wonder what the rest of the cast saw in those visions? They must have been specialised if the architect said they were to examine the contents of their hearts. Anyone got any ideas?
This boss fight makes me regret not using Rex more. He is 1 or 2 levels behind everybody. Morag KO's me very quickly every time. I've tried several times and I never survive long enough to do much of anyghing.
This very moment was so painful. I don’t care about how difficult it was in beating them but rather that this was unfair to Rex. The Architect puts that kid into a FREAKING MENTAL HELL!! Even his friends in reality admitted that those things they’ve seen were horrifying to look at. Yes these were alternate possibilities like the opposite of Rex’s closest friends but what was the point? To make him suffer?! These are the same people that fought alongside Rex and pushed him to move forward, even gave him a few beatings so that he could go back to being the same person they were following all this time during the time he gave up after Pyra was abducted. Just how sadistic does someone have to be to actually enjoy this bullshit?
Well, a scientist that can destroy the entire world of the modern age can definitely be sadistic enough to let a boy suffer while his friends, girlfriends, and crush are also having a hell of a bad time.
He didn’t enjoy it he was testing them
Zenobia in these fights is such a joke, she does SO MUCH damage
NotIris she's bad
@@alexanderdempsey9424 NO SHE FUCKING ISN'T
Thanks I took your advice and I ducking demolished everyone
I think it would be cool if you could have fought Vandham too. Like he says something like “Rex! How could you let me die? You stole everything from me!” etc etc. Also, I feel like it would have made perfect sense to fight a krabble in the gramps scene, like the first krabble you fought at the start of the game but leveled up.
Past Klaus looks like Juju
Theory: Juju is the Conduit
Hands up if Morag is kicking your Ass in your first playthrough.
Pyra:"go wash your hands/gloves right now
"Everyone's acting so strange!" -_- ...that line, whew, that...one...line...it just sounds so...strange.
The Royal Arkus Knight I dunno, he is around 14 years of age probably
I'd probably say that if i were in his situation
...I guess that's probably true...just probably...
...i think... you know more... ellipses... in your...comments...
Jenkins... I... dont... understand...
Well, if seems this nightmare traumatized Rex because he made DAMN SURE the Nia's scenario never happen.
I only died 3 times to Nia and had no problems with morag and Tora and zeke
Phew...
32:15 Is... is that Lora’s knighting ceremony?
Mythra wow
So I am confusion...
WHY IS POPPI MEAN MEAN?
BUT MYTHRA IS NOT BEING MEAN MEAN?
NINTENDO EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN REX REX IS
MEAN?!
I watch too much vines.
21:05 Everyone hates on the voice acting, but this part was well done.
I still wonder what the rest of the party saw, they also mention "not pleasant visions", but we don't ever get to even hear a description beyond that, what could've the others seen?
So if and ONLY IF we get a XCX2, I wonder if they’ll tie the original X and X2 with each other, despite referencing X in a sense too.
Wait... what is there in X to tie in?
Truestm In the beginning of the cutscene when Klaus creates the worlds, you can see the battle above Earth from the opening of X in the background.
Truestm Nevermind, misread the question
“Omg this boss was so hard”
“I’m XC2&1 are related omg!!11!one!!”
How about just struggling to get through these battles because you are literally being put up against your own friends?
Ducktator ___ some people find it satisfying. If you're pent up that is.
The fight against Nia pained me the most. It was very sudden and it was after she basically just yelled "Notice me you fucking idiot".
A catgirl in love was a painful thing to put down.
Takytivarg Morag is the most painful, For Nia, you just needed good heal arts and it wouldn’t be so hard, yeah I hated how she could heal twice but....still. Morag is too OP that fight is broken, beat her with Nim and I suppose Ursula too. Wasn’t easy. I died to Nia a few times just to realize what I was doing wrong and wasted one round of just error. Zeke and Tora was cake. Got it first try.
Spamming healing was the key to success yes, but that's not what I was getting at. I meant emotionally, rather than fight difficulty.
Nah fuck them.They had zero reason to bitch in either the real world or even rex's mind/deep insecurities.Anyone could see that if they actually thought about it gor more than 5 seconeds.
You know, sense everybody had these fever dreams just like Rex, I wonder what everyone else experienced in theirs?
I dunno, I’m just curious, I guess. Like what did Nia’s fever dream look like? Pyra’s? Mythra’s? Tora’s? Poppi’s? Morag’s?
I don't get why they say it's Rex's fault. He didn't know jack and shit about elisium like the rest of them.(i know he saw a vision about elisium when he met pyra, but if the others followed rex just for his words and turns out it didn't look like it seemed? Everyone else has the blame for blindly following a not to sure story. Rex is not the one to blame really.) It really bugged me why they keep blamin rex. Even if it's their true feelings, it doesnt make any sense!
OH MY GOD, HIS SOUL WAS ZANZA!!! OH IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW!!!
Kinda makes sense now to why zanza needed to find a host body since his original body has been left behind in the original universe.
The cutscene after the fight with Zeke and Tora was so damn long!!! When I played the game way back in January last year, I got like 3 minutes in and fell asleep. By the time I woke up, this damn thing was STILL going! I’d rather watch a bunch of unskippable credits than a 30 minute cinematic...
I mean, you get some really important exposition, not sure what would compel you to fall asleep unless you were being metaphorical but I doubt that, sounds like you just have to keep your attention focused for long enough
The fight with Nia physically hurt me the way Rex don’t understand what she feels about him is really sad she dropped hints to but he was like “huh?” I like to assume they end up together but YEARS after the endgame similarly to Naruto and Hinata in that it took Naruto FOREVER to realize what Hinata felt N before people come at me teeth and claws out I’m just rambling so if you’re going to comment don’t make it be like “TRASH” or some unoriginal stuff like that
Azuke Namik she is the melia of XC2
A really mean person fair enough your name fits :,) I know she is but a dude can dream yea
Azuke Namik Thing is, he actually *does* understand, but since he doesn't feel the same he chooses to act oblivious about it. That's what that fight was about, what this whole scene is about, Rex coming face to face with his frends' deepest feelings which in turn is his greatest fear, the fear of hurting someone you care about. That's the reason he plays dumb with Nia, cause he doesn't want to hurt her, that's the reason why he ran away from her illusion, cause he was being faced with having hurt one of his best Friends so much beause he couldn't feel the same for her.
**Spoiler**
Entonces...la mitad de Klaus esta en el universo de Xenoblade Chronicles 1 en el momento de su declive en la batalla de Shulk, el 3er Blade "controlador" Ontos aparece en Xenoblade Chronicles X.
Sep, luego de ver no solo los bosses creo que el universo de Xenoblade X no tiene casi ni incidencia en este Xenoblade chronicles 2 asi que quizás alvis si sea Ontos
This gave me an idea along in smt4 apocalypse. In rpgs with a party you decide to go for the bad ending and the party feels betrayed and are after you with an intense bloodlist.
Rex!
Snap out of it!
The Architect almost sounds like Shulk from the first Xenoblade Chronicles.
One thing I hated XB2 for : taking away my drivers before boss fights.
17:18 that hit hard. im always worried about how my future will be i imagine it will be boring worrying agonizing and lonely at my 40s 50s or 60s so it hurted so much
i like how nia is trying to fight and 50 other people are screaming over her
The amount of emotional damage and maturing this 15 year old kid went through is astonishing.
I literally had to pause the game and take a break to collect my thoughts when it dropped that connection to Xenoblade Chronicles 1.
so this is what the scene from that video came from huh 17:49 figured since it was an illusion he was in
Evangelion anyone ? Looks familiar to the final chapters of the anime lol
Well, this game is a spiritual successor to Xenogears, a game that people consider similar to Evangelion.
While the dubbing is still in questioning, everyone wanted a go at attacking rex's actor especially. Yet here the game is doing it. Interesting how a story can play out to any character.
aight but having to beat up tora was the most painful part of the game
I know nothing of this game but... It's pretty neat ;w;)
who's hyped for the final boss
If stuff like this happens to me, I might be more enraged than shocked because I will believe they're having the audacity to disrespect me
Yeah I was expecting Nia to trashtalk Rex because he friendzoned her
What the fuck man they make you walk all the way down the stairs every damn time
Wait, the architech is ZANZA???
Can someone explain me what is happening?
Parallel universes. Xenoblade 1 is happening at the other side of some wormhole at this moment.
One Eco ohhhhhh
Is there some chance that this has connection with xenoblade chronicles x?
Probably.
Hang on a second...in my playthrough, nia was level 67 and zeke was 69. That's cool but a bit difficult cause all of these fights kicked my ass if i didn't have roc and the sapphire
Xavier Torres
Where is this fabled Sapphire?!
Thunder 55 you can get it in the world tree and enemies can drop it
They're the levels of whatever your party was at the time the cutscene starts
I regret putting ultimate shield on poppi before this fight
Equip 3 blades with Shield Hammer, then keep changing blade and spamming Iron Wall, then use level IV blade combo to attack
I’m fighting morag right now and all my unique water blades were already equipped to the other party members so I’m outta luck. This’ll be a time.
So the architech is half of klaus, the other half been zanza?
Yes
Klaus split into the architect and zanza
Funny that in this fight, I had Kora and Finch.
What is the load out here? Morag is doing no damage to you here but she fucking damn near insta-kills me each time. What accessories, aux cores and chips are being used?
Ah cool, cheese it. Good idea. Too bad I actually have managed it now. Thanks anyway.
Use humanoid Hunter aux Cores
alternatively, use a Dark Matter Chip on Roc
*50% CRIT RATE*
You just want self healing
Newt soloed all of these battles except an occasional switch to Godfrey for the heals, I don't know what's so hard about these fights lol
Wait so you mean I made everyone op for rex to be crushed "I like your attitude" turned into "DON'T FORGET ME!"
And why was everyone mad at rex plus what core chips did you use for roc
I honestly got through this easy since I used Aegeon and just rushed through them by spamming driver arts, using specials as soon as they're available, 3 star pouch items and occasionally switching to my healer.
I do the same, Aegeon is very OP for this part in special
Came here to see if I was the only one who had difficulties during this boss. Glad to see I wasn't.
Wait what happened to Rex when Shulk reverted the world to its original state
Kevin Mo
There’s no reason to assume that the world’s couldn’t cooexist. Though that WOULD be kinda funny, since that would mean that SHULK was the one who got wisked to the promised land, and REX the one who put it together.
I have one word of advice for this gauntlet: Theory
Serious disadvtange: forced to go at these bosses alone!
23:00 XC 2 becomes Persona 4.
I've had nightmares like this before
I didn’t get to this part yet, but does this remind anyone of the scene in Age of Ultron where Scarlet Witch screws with the Avenger’s minds
I have all of the worst blades equipped that i have oof
Is Ontos, Alvis who is the monado. We need to wait for the DLC.
Alaboo Africa most likely
...So these guys share the levels they left you at....Meaning, some of us could be level 1 or level 99.
... Haha, shit.
Yes, i beated them al level 90
Morag killed me. Because I didn't have a single healing blade equiped with Rex, so I had to win faster. But Morag evades everything. In second round I just equiped Floren.