I have an O'Connor 50D head - I've had it for 25 years, it was made in the 1970's and it will outlast me. Sticks and heads are the type of filmaking equipment that don't get left behind by big tech leaps. Buy the best you can at the start and then buy the absolute best as a replacement. You'll never regret it.
12:37 - The build of that tripod, the computing power of the RED, and that mechanical arm of yours ... You have just the right tools to build an iron man suit.
Videos like this confirm what I've experienced as a professional. The higher you climb the food chain, the less you care about the price of the tools you buy and the more willing you are to spend money to get that extra 1%. I used to scoff at expensive gear as well but that was just because I wasn't at a level where I needed or could appreciate what it had to offer. Great video my man!
Gene's explanation of profession gear sets him apart from any other youtube "filmmaker" out there. Actual real life experience and knowledge being dropped in each video. "Change my mind" lol. Keep up the great work Gene!!!! You're making me want to step up from my Benro FBS7 to the Sachtler. That O'Connor will be the goal in 5 years!
You should do a video with an expensive camera (arrri or red) with a cheap lenses vs a cheap camera with a really high end lens..... Pls like so he sees this!!!
As someone who never really used high quality tripods, and never looked into upgrading. You did an amazing job of explaining this so even a noon like myself can understand. Great content
I bought a Magnus Tripod a couple months ago. Its definitely the cheapest fluid head on amazon, but the build quality is impressive. So far its holding up nicely! Id definitely recommend the Magnus tripod if you want a good fluid head on a budget.
That is why I invested in a Miller tripod head. I have legs that go over 2 meter + a head of 4-14KG and total weight 6KG :) Also It has extreme low mode. And I have a VCT 14 on top. So easy to swap rigs on it :) It cost brand new 3500. I bought it on used market for 800 ( and itw as like brand new)
1:35 - is it an iPhone or Samsung? Cause the HDR is so sick on the clouds it even beats the DSLR video. I need to know, cause I am buying s phone and I want the best HDR I can get in a phone.
Dope cut at 13:25. "So with that weight limit...." I was wondering how you completed the camera build while you were still talking...I spent at least 5 minutes listening to it...I guess I'm in that early analyze everything stage of newbie filmmakers...SUBSCRIBED..lol
The smoothness is extremely valuable if you are using lenses without stabilization. Most cinema lenses have no stabilzation. Even a lot of full sized broadcast cameras don't have stablization.
Hey Potato Jet, You ever plan on doing a meeet up/film day with your subscribers? Id love to see how fluid the Oconnor Ultimate 130ds actually is lol. Love all your content!
Have you used camera pedestals? I originally used camera pedestals designed for Broadcast TV cameras with teleprompters back in the day when a set up like that could weigh 500 lbs or more. Had a pedestal for the main camera at my church but when they went to 2 cameras for a tight and wide shot from the same angle they didn't want to buy another pedestal so they went with 2 tripods not as nice as the O'Conner. Anyway I prefer the camera pedestals over a tripod especially now that Sachtler and others have more portable pedestals.
Love the channel. And again a nice vid....100mm bowl suggests it is a tripod for heavy loads. But i feel like you are forgetting the most important feature of those "heavy-duty" tripods. The high-end units are all made to feel like a Rolls-Royce and operate perfectly, no matter the brand or load-classification. Even the lower budget tripods mostly feel like a luxury BMW, for instance a mid-class Manfrotto. The difference is that the high-end tripod work everywhere, anywhere, and survive. Take a smooth operating high-end, and a budget tripod, to freezing, snowy countryside. I bet you can't make a proper shot with the budget one because the thing just freezes. Take them to a desert in the scorching sun..... i bet the budget tripod is loose all the way and totaly F'd with sand in the internals. It's mainly the dependability you pay for, not just the smoothness. And my personal experience is; stear clear of Manfrotto. They work fine for a year and then the whole thing just turns to a piece of draggy crap. Seen that happen many times.
I’m very naïve especially after one reads my question but if you rotate the camera far enough to be unable to still see the monitor is there a way to keep it independently in front of the operator?
I'm at the Manfrotto 502AH fluid head point in life. I paired it with Gitzo medium legs with a center column. A bowl tripod is faster to set up initially, but then you have to fiddle to get the height right (or not have enough height). Bought both used.
30 years back the O'çonnor was the standard for the big cameras and Betacams, I had a Sachtler but was not enough for loooong lenses for wildlife, later I got a libec and did the job, nowadays the manfrotto with nitroogen cartridge for 1000mm (equiv in 35mm), shorter is useless for wildlife.
Good report, thanks, but a few points to emphasize: Cheap “fluid” tripod heads are a misnomer. They are actually lubricated friction heads. There is a significant design difference philosophy among the manufacturers of professional (read expensive) tripod fluid heads. You started to describe it when you got to the O’Connor that, by the way, is made in California, USA. The German-made Sachtler is designed for the lowest possible weight and to do this it is a stepped adjustment (as you mentioned) design. Both the drag and counterweight are in mechanical repeatable steps but that is also the disadvantage, especially for the counterweight. You can almost never perfectly balance a Sachtler for a given weight (after finding the camera’s perfect static balance by sliding it forward and back) whereas the O’Connor’s counterbalance is infinitely adjustable. The other venerable (meaning historically very old) brand fluid head is the English-made Vinton. Its heavy capacity fluid heads also have infinitely-adjustable counterbalance and drag. All of the brands, (Italian-made) Bogen/Manfrotto, Sachtler, O’Conner, and Vinten are owned by a parent company. Old (meaning about 30 years) O’Connor and Vinten heads can be found on the used market for a fraction of the cost of the current new models and if they have been carefully used and maintained (or recently overhauled by the manufacturer) they are excellent values and can perform as well as the new ones.
at 12:37, I spose I'd say that whenever i update my tripod. from 30 -> 130 $ upgrade, from 130 ->350$ upgrade and then yours when you touched that sachtler for first time 350 -2.5k$ upgrade.. every time you have a new thing you say "OMG ITS SO SMOOTH". I hope I will feel that when using my new tripod. Dunno which one yet :/
Yeah my tripod always has little bit of a push back when I pan. Very hard to stay centered when I'm filming a dance recital lol and I have a top load tripod too! Didn't know thats what it was called. Imma go impress some people
Hi, can you tell me which type of trypod and accessories are most useful for high speed sports? Especially for planes with speeds of 250 knots, fast movements where a powerful telephoto lens is needed.
Ok, so I'm going to school right now for Cinematography. And the school is sending me FS 5 MK II Now I'm going to be making short films Documentaries things of that nature. What would be the best choice of camera to add to the arsenal?
What if you made a tutorial on tripod shots/movements you use? Idk how much info there would be, but there are so many “5 handheld shots” or “Best gimbal shots” videos out there, but not for tripods🤷♂️
I remember using a Beta-SP camera back in the 90s as a grip, for a PBS station. (Videographers often let us get a couple simple shots on the tripod out in the field.) I think the tripods were Sachler, or maybe the heads. Anyway, those tripods were so good they were almost as good as the studio cameras. You could pretty much point the 50-pound camera up or down, and, being perfectly balanced, you could let go and the camera wouldn't move at all. You just get your shot, hit record button, and woila! The cameras were almost as stable on your shoulder because they were so heavy. Tripods for 150k studio cameras were obviously better, having to support literally hundreds of pounds and having 100% control over tilt/pan tension. Those you most definitely could let go and they wouldn't move at all either. I ought to ask a field videographer I'm still in touch with what kind of tripods we used back then.
So what is the answer if you want to mount a camera in a permanent location. Make space for a tripod that will never go anywhere? Or is there something with a smaller footprint that you can literally bolt to the floor? I have been searching but maybe I just don't know what such a thing would be called.
As an amateur photographer I didn't think much about tripods. Now I see why they cost so much, thanks for enlightening me. And yes Tripod is the best!!!
I have an O'Connor 50D head - I've had it for 25 years, it was made in the 1970's and it will outlast me. Sticks and heads are the type of filmaking equipment that don't get left behind by big tech leaps. Buy the best you can at the start and then buy the absolute best as a replacement. You'll never regret it.
With that thing on his hand he looks like he’s turning into a red camera accessory himself.
This is my favourite comment on this video
Considering the state of the American healthcare system, it might just be as overpriced as a RED product.
He's building himself an Iron Man style exoskeleton so he doesn't need a tripod.
RED POTATO JET 5K
12:37 - The build of that tripod, the computing power of the RED, and that mechanical arm of yours ... You have just the right tools to build an iron man suit.
LOL i was thinking he looked like a robot at that same moment wtff
I think it's becoming part of the camera hahaha
krisco lol
But can it run Crysis
Best TH-camr ever. I don't just learn stuff but I also feel really great after watching you!
I don't learn stuff too .
@@anonybadis Dude😂. I said I just don't learn but I feel good too
@@SparkIdiology thats what he agreed with...
@Memeorandum of Understanding yeah I should have😂. My bad
You have to switch the "just" and "don't" so it reads "I don't just learn stuff but..." easy mistake to make haha
Tripod= 10k
Arm Brace = 4.5k
Suprising a kid and breaking his bike? Priceless 🤣
Mandilo23 woweee
45k!!!
porkhash all he did was snap the chain, that can be fixed with basic tools in 30 mins
A good chain costs 20$
13:32 That transition from time-lapse to real-time was soooo well done my friend.
dude try slowing down the time-lapse down to 0.25 speed. Its nice
So basically you guys went over to break Sam's bike🤦♂️
and told him to take some shots for their youtube video
F
And shit on his tripod 🤣
Kkkķkkkk atleast it wasnt his arm
But Potato Jet did gave him a compliment though
What do you mean there's no flex. You've been flexing throughout this whole video. Lol
Meanwhile I can't afford anything more than mobile photography.
that's a nice Trek MTB
Bad ass full squish
Props to you for reaching out and supporting your viewers. I have so much respect for anyone that takes time out for the kids!
Videos like this confirm what I've experienced as a professional. The higher you climb the food chain, the less you care about the price of the tools you buy and the more willing you are to spend money to get that extra 1%. I used to scoff at expensive gear as well but that was just because I wasn't at a level where I needed or could appreciate what it had to offer. Great video my man!
"Whats your message for the world?"
"Nothing"
Like a boss :D
Did you just say “like a boss :D” in 2019
@@loganhunt8029 no
She is way too disappointed to say anything to the world
Gene's explanation of profession gear sets him apart from any other youtube "filmmaker" out there. Actual real life experience and knowledge being dropped in each video. "Change my mind" lol. Keep up the great work Gene!!!! You're making me want to step up from my Benro FBS7 to the Sachtler. That O'Connor will be the goal in 5 years!
You should do a video with an expensive camera (arrri or red) with a cheap lenses vs a cheap camera with a really high end lens.....
Pls like so he sees this!!!
Hes done that
I just uploaded a video with a cheap camera all together :p
man the transition on the camera build around 13mins was so god damn slick!
13:22 That seamless transition through the speed ramp was so legit.
Thats a timelapse
thanks to you i have improved the video quality of my channel so thanks!
I think you should wear your arm brace on jobs when you use that Red rig. Looks more legit
Yep, he would look like he is integrated with the equipment 😁
As someone who never really used high quality tripods, and never looked into upgrading. You did an amazing job of explaining this so even a noon like myself can understand. Great content
I bought a Magnus Tripod a couple months ago. Its definitely the cheapest fluid head on amazon, but the build quality is impressive. So far its holding up nicely! Id definitely recommend the Magnus tripod if you want a good fluid head on a budget.
That is why I invested in a Miller tripod head. I have legs that go over 2 meter + a head of 4-14KG and total weight 6KG :) Also It has extreme low mode. And I have a VCT 14 on top. So easy to swap rigs on it :) It cost brand new 3500. I bought it on used market for 800 ( and itw as like brand new)
Because this is the Apple Tripod Camera Stand, $9,999
$500 extra accessory to hold cell phone
And the head is soldered on. can't be removed or upgraded.
The plate to mount the camera in another 30k. The apple tripod only comes with the legs😂
Now imagine if Apple were in charge of American healthcare - 450k for an AppleBrace
So awesome you went to surprise Sam! 🙌
"What's your message to the world?"
"Nothing."
I can relate
Oconnor, Sachtler, Vinten and Manfroto a own by vitec. Is there other tripod companies?
Big fan of yours from the Philippines 🇵🇭
Big fan of potato jet too! From Thailand!
Same here
Pinoy here haha
Huge Potato Jet fan from Philippines here too!!!
JC Dillo 🇵🇭
I rented FSB 7 for a week. It is indeed super smooth when shoot 200mm with 1.5x clear zoom.
Gene after your arm is healed rig that brace to your camera gear somehow. The hinge seems to be pretty smooth!
1:35 - is it an iPhone or Samsung? Cause the HDR is so sick on the clouds it even beats the DSLR video. I need to know, cause I am buying s phone and I want the best HDR I can get in a phone.
Dope cut at 13:25. "So with that weight limit...." I was wondering how you completed the camera build while you were still talking...I spent at least 5 minutes listening to it...I guess I'm in that early analyze everything stage of newbie filmmakers...SUBSCRIBED..lol
Wow man. Great insight and explanation. I like the part about diminishing returns. It's a lot like bicycles!
Men after watching your vids . I have a conclusion that you are the best youtuber
The smoothness is extremely valuable if you are using lenses without stabilization. Most cinema lenses have no stabilzation. Even a lot of full sized broadcast cameras don't have stablization.
What tripod fluid head that can hold 50 to 100 lb camera for an affordable price it has all the goodies on it
I love the way how Granny shoots a vertical B-roll at around 12:23.:D
Hey Potato Jet, You ever plan on doing a meeet up/film day with your subscribers? Id love to see how fluid the Oconnor Ultimate 130ds actually is lol. Love all your content!
Have you used camera pedestals? I originally used camera pedestals designed for Broadcast TV cameras with teleprompters back in the day when a set up like that could weigh 500 lbs or more. Had a pedestal for the main camera at my church but when they went to 2 cameras for a tight and wide shot from the same angle they didn't want to buy another pedestal so they went with 2 tripods not as nice as the O'Conner. Anyway I prefer the camera pedestals over a tripod especially now that Sachtler and others have more portable pedestals.
Whats up with the heavy Vinette ?
hopefully one day I can shoot videos with you! the quality of your video is growing
a small fans from Taiwan
Had no idea I’d watch an 18 minute video about tripods today, but now I’m a better person because of it.
“What’s your message to the world?”
“Nothing”
I love that little girl 😂😂😂😂😂
You can adjust the counterbalance steplessly on the Manfrotto Nitrotech heads. Also they are top loaded and sooo cheap.
can you please do reviews exactly like this for other camera movement tools. wonderful video.
Can you adjust the counterbalance on your elbow?
got an occoner 50 for 420$ including total rebuild :) it is not as refined in the counter balance as the new ones but best i have ever used
Bro, where did you get the dolly at 5:38? I need a decent inexpensive one.
Love the channel. And again a nice vid....100mm bowl suggests it is a tripod for heavy loads. But i feel like you are forgetting the most important feature of those "heavy-duty" tripods. The high-end units are all made to feel like a Rolls-Royce and operate perfectly, no matter the brand or load-classification. Even the lower budget tripods mostly feel like a luxury BMW, for instance a mid-class Manfrotto. The difference is that the high-end tripod work everywhere, anywhere, and survive. Take a smooth operating high-end, and a budget tripod, to freezing, snowy countryside. I bet you can't make a proper shot with the budget one because the thing just freezes. Take them to a desert in the scorching sun..... i bet the budget tripod is loose all the way and totaly F'd with sand in the internals. It's mainly the dependability you pay for, not just the smoothness. And my personal experience is; stear clear of Manfrotto. They work fine for a year and then the whole thing just turns to a piece of draggy crap. Seen that happen many times.
The guy who is always consistent with all the crazy stuff that turn out to be so cool.... Potato jet all day everyday
##watching from Kenya
Wow this is a really nice i portance of Tripods video 👍😊 Thanks
Best TH-cam reviewer.... Hope I can buy some camera and make cool videos like you.... You're the man
I’m very naïve especially after one reads my question but if you rotate the camera far enough to be unable to still see the monitor is there a way to keep it independently in front of the operator?
I'm at the Manfrotto 502AH fluid head point in life. I paired it with Gitzo medium legs with a center column. A bowl tripod is faster to set up initially, but then you have to fiddle to get the height right (or not have enough height). Bought both used.
30 years back the O'çonnor was the standard for the big cameras and Betacams, I had a Sachtler but was not enough for loooong lenses for wildlife, later I got a libec and did the job, nowadays the manfrotto with nitroogen cartridge for 1000mm (equiv in 35mm), shorter is useless for wildlife.
Good report, thanks, but a few points to emphasize:
Cheap “fluid” tripod heads are a misnomer. They are actually lubricated friction heads.
There is a significant design difference philosophy among the manufacturers of professional (read expensive) tripod fluid heads. You started to describe it when you got to the O’Connor that, by the way, is made in California, USA. The German-made Sachtler is designed for the lowest possible weight and to do this it is a stepped adjustment (as you mentioned) design. Both the drag and counterweight are in mechanical repeatable steps but that is also the disadvantage, especially for the counterweight. You can almost never perfectly balance a Sachtler for a given weight (after finding the camera’s perfect static balance by sliding it forward and back) whereas the O’Connor’s counterbalance is infinitely adjustable. The other venerable (meaning historically very old) brand fluid head is the English-made Vinton. Its heavy capacity fluid heads also have infinitely-adjustable counterbalance and drag.
All of the brands, (Italian-made) Bogen/Manfrotto, Sachtler, O’Conner, and Vinten are owned by a parent company. Old (meaning about 30 years) O’Connor and Vinten heads can be found on the used market for a fraction of the cost of the current new models and if they have been carefully used and maintained (or recently overhauled by the manufacturer) they are excellent values and can perform as well as the new ones.
Is there any other alternative and cheaper options for the Sachtler flowtech 75? That have one click leg adjustment.
at 12:37, I spose I'd say that whenever i update my tripod. from 30 -> 130 $ upgrade, from 130 ->350$ upgrade and then yours when you touched that sachtler for first time 350 -2.5k$ upgrade.. every time you have a new thing you say "OMG ITS SO SMOOTH". I hope I will feel that when using my new tripod. Dunno which one yet :/
I have a Slik with fluid and have been very happy with it.
Wow bro! Ur channel has grown!! Been subbed since like 5k!
Potato jet just make me sit , and listen to his tripod story , this is like my bedtime story , awesome potato jet ! 🙌🏻
Hey Potato Jet! Does the Robotic Arm speed up the Tripod Set-Up? Did u get that robotic arm as a Sachtler add-on?
Yeah my tripod always has little bit of a push back when I pan. Very hard to stay centered when I'm filming a dance recital lol and I have a top load tripod too! Didn't know thats what it was called. Imma go impress some people
Hi, can you tell me which type of trypod and accessories are most useful for high
speed sports? Especially for planes with speeds of 250 knots, fast
movements where a powerful telephoto lens is needed.
Always great content! 👍👍👍👍👍
hi potato, do you now any second hand camera to record video for 100 dollars? any model specific? thank youu
you should keep that arm support, looks dope with the tripod
This guy is the best person on TH-cam who can make camera work cool
I swear, everytime I tune in to Potato Jets reviews, I regret purchases I've already made!
Dan Taitoko watch then buy, might help with the disappointment.
Sooooo rewatching this because reasons...Did you balance each rig on the tripod heads first?
Ok, so I'm going to school right now for Cinematography. And the school is sending me FS 5 MK II Now I'm going to be making short films Documentaries things of that nature. What would be the best choice of camera to add to the arsenal?
Wow, who knew there was so much to know about tripods! Very informative
What if you made a tutorial on tripod shots/movements you use? Idk how much info there would be, but there are so many “5 handheld shots” or “Best gimbal shots” videos out there, but not for tripods🤷♂️
15:28 man i just broke my screen to feel that thing
and it felt really good
: )
I wonder if there's a photography tripod like the sachtler one,
being able to lock the legs without bending down will save my back.
Potato jet's left hand is even stabilized, love the arm thing.
I remember using a Beta-SP camera back in the 90s as a grip, for a PBS station. (Videographers often let us get a couple simple shots on the tripod out in the field.) I think the tripods were Sachler, or maybe the heads. Anyway, those tripods were so good they were almost as good as the studio cameras. You could pretty much point the 50-pound camera up or down, and, being perfectly balanced, you could let go and the camera wouldn't move at all. You just get your shot, hit record button, and woila! The cameras were almost as stable on your shoulder because they were so heavy. Tripods for 150k studio cameras were obviously better, having to support literally hundreds of pounds and having 100% control over tilt/pan tension. Those you most definitely could let go and they wouldn't move at all either. I ought to ask a field videographer I'm still in touch with what kind of tripods we used back then.
Wow! Great info ! Well ! I use galvanized pipe and cheap tripod head and mounted on my worktable
Best Potato Jet sound 12:07
Thats some really dope biking footage actually
So what is the answer if you want to mount a camera in a permanent location. Make space for a tripod that will never go anywhere? Or is there something with a smaller footprint that you can literally bolt to the floor? I have been searching but maybe I just don't know what such a thing would be called.
Do you think I would have an issue with the $80 one when using a cheap mirrorless camera such as the lumix g7?
Could you make a video comparing the most expensive gimbals to the most expensive steadicams. Like the ones they use on hollywood sets.
I have the Sachtler Video 18 with carbon legs, it only costs 8.600 USD and and I love it.
I really needed this video, THANKS!
What camera you use for record this video (studio)?
In the $3K range, which would you pick - Sachtler, Miller, or Cartoni? Or other brand?
As an amateur photographer I didn't think much about tripods. Now I see why they cost so much, thanks for enlightening me. And yes Tripod is the best!!!
Favorite youtuber hands down !!!
Man, I'm debating spending $150 on a tripod XD
This is why I subscribe to the channel, not the commercial content.
9:08 the moment when Potato Jet is becoming one with his tripod... see the hand and the tripod... :) Get well Mr. Jet! ;)
watching this with ads in between.. so different but hey, how was the smallHD with the transmitter..
what was the name of the 7inch monitor you like
Do you mind coming to the UK for my birthday?
Back when i started PA'ing, we always used the O'connor 2575D and the price of that to this day blows my mind.
Thanks for showing us this amazing stuff!!
You went to a fan's birthday party because his mom asked you nicely? Wow, you are awesome. More TH-camrs like you please! Subscribed.
Carbon fiber is not only for lightness. It is much stiffer than aluminum reducing the flex from the legs.
do you use monopod jet? when do you use monopod actually?
What's that location where ppl are biking off rocks?
I live in Garden Grove my Birthday is August 31 I would l would like to meet you. Maybe you can show me how to Balance my Neewer Glide Cam