695 Tractor Rear PTO Protection and the Overrun Clutch. Kubota LX2610 Compact Tractor. 4K
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- I thought I had all the protection I needed for my tractor's PTO but I may have been wrong. You never stop learning. Let's take a look at the options available and an old component that has made a comeback. The PTO Overrun Clutch. Cheers!
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The many hours that you are racking up on and around the tractor shows with the knowledge that you share. Saftey is always top priority with all your videos. You never blow thru anything making us able to absorb this information. Much appreciated.
Who remembers when GP first started these videos how green and wet behind the ears he was? Now look at him up there with the best of them, Neil Messick, Tractor Time with Tim, Neil Koch, and so many others. Another great video GP! 😉😂
LOL! Cheers!
What valuable information Gord. Very kind of the subscriber to share and you to pass along! I really never knew there was such a device. Thank you both!
GP, Guy is correct about the 8n ford and bushhog, a lesson I learned in the past.I do apperciate you sharing this product that can save repairs in the future. CHEERS
Wow. I never thought to switch the PTO to the mid position to hook up my shafts!! Life just got easier. Great info Gord!
Garden looking great there Bob! Great job Gord. Cheers.
Just eant to mention slip clutches may need maintenence periodically
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. My new kubota needs one of these.
Always walk through the area of steep grass before cutting. You never now what's sleeping or hidden in the tall grass.
Who says an old dog like me can't learn some thing new. In my early days I had v-drive circle race boat. The dog engagement between the engine and prop had no slip. I had a Stellings shaft release( maybe called whirl a way ) in line. If you blew/locked the engine at speed, the shaft could still spin. Otherwise the boat could be flipped.
Tks again .. we learn every day new things . Tks Gord .. always enjoy your video’s CHEERS !!
What a Great video. thanks GP!!!!
Thank you, that was a great tutorial.
GP great tutorial, I’ve never heard of an over run clutch.
Definitely going to have to look into one.
Thanks for sharing. Cheers 👍TCT
I think it might be a cool tool....:)) have a great week Tony!
Thanks Gord for the info. I learned something today
Pretty much every tractor if not all of them up until the late 50s and early 60s didn’t have a live (independent) pto. Thus they didn’t have a hydraulic or mechanical pto brake. Overrunning clutches are nice so that the movement of the implement doesn’t transfer to the transmission. In the older tractors the pto was driven directly off the transmission, so when that implement was slowing down even with the clutch depressed the pto would essentially backfeed and spin the transmission, pushing the tractor forward, if you didn’t put it in into neutral right away.
Thanks for the information!! Never thought about equipment hurting the PTO!!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Great video. I never knew about the hydraulic brake on the pto. But I don’t have a new tractor. What I do have is a 1951 TEA20 Ferguson that needs one of those over running clutches. My Ferguson would operate the same as the Ford tractor you showed. And yes, you can not stop if you push the clutch in and stomp on the brake in these old tractors with what’s called a, transmission pto. My 6’ finish mower will continue to pus the tractor forward. Not a nice feeling if your trying to stop in a hurry. The way I get around that is, in normal mowing going from forward to reverse is, I step on the clutch and at the same time I reach down in a inconvenient location and disengage the pto, and every thing stops. But that system is no good for an emergency stop. So I need to get one of those clutches.
Thanks for the video.
If your tractor was a manual transmission and not hydrostatic, would it have that hydraulic brake on the pto ?
Have a great day. 👍🏻🪵🪓🇨🇦
Good morning and thanks for sharing. It still surprises me how long these tractors last. That is a good question and i don't know the answer but will try to remember to ask the next time I see them. Thanks again - all the best!
Have a pleasant day!! 😊
Great advice
Fortunately my older B7100D has one built in internally
Good video Gordon.
As always a great tutorial GP. Thanks for the shout out. Later my friend.
Hey thanks for all the help Mech. Hope you are keeping well.
Thanks, GP, very enjoyable video
Awesome!
Great info and very informative, you are a great resource and teacher. You are very much appreciated!!
Thanks!
Gord they didn't have them back in the day. Just think how long it took them to come up with this and all the people that wish they did many years sooner lol
Gordon,that was very informative.
Hi GP, adding this item to your PTO shaft, increase the total pto shaft length. That means, any vibrations from the drive shaft will double the vibrations energy felt by the pto oil seal or bearing. You should asked to your tractor dealer if your pto futur repair will be cover under warranty.
Morning Denis. That's a good question. I will try to remember to ask. Cheers!
Nice overview GP
Wished you peace for the week. 🌼🌸👋🏼🌺🌼🌸
Thanks so much John! We're getting a little better with time. All the best!
@@GPOutdoors keep you with prayers. From Mirabel, Québec 👋🏼🌺🌸🌼
Thanks, Gord. Very informative video.
Such great information GP! Didn't know these things about the PTO and related. Your explanation of everything was clear and easy to understand.
Nice work GP! 👍
Gord. fabulous information.
Wow. Great information, Gord. After all these years, I never knew about this. Thanks, My Friend. Cheers!
Gord great tip , on the PTO . we run big gear off the PTO . in farm equipments in the field . But tractor 🚜 are running the small one 105 horsepower and up 🔝 to run equipments in the field . We never use your PTO break , in our case one you take the PTO Out off gear everything stop in sec . 😊 the big things in the farming equipments is program the computer 💻 to run the equipments right today. No go there with this computer 🖥 junk on stuff , good went it working until we got to get a service guys out for $500 per/ hrs to program the computer to make it work right in the field Gord . Two wk ago lost computer in one off semi feed engine wait to get it took 2 wk had to be program for the engine cost just under $6000 . Like I say computer junk .
Great information- Thank You
Gord thanks for another great video. I just learned about shifting the PTO to mid position so I can spin the rear shaft. Used to have a lot of trouble hooking up my chipper drive shaft. You did an awesome job of explaining the process and advising on the PTO adapter override clutch. Good to see you back at it again after a very sad time.
Thanks so much my friend. Have a great week out there!
Hi Gord good tip I was awear about the brake in the pto housing. when i finish use my bush hog i just disengage the level and lower the bush hog right down to help stop the spinnig and save the breakes
Thanks Gord for the great information on the overrun clutch you provided in the video today. Stay safe and keep the great videos coming our way. Fred.
I just bought a new tractor and buried in the manual was the recommendation to use an overrunning coupler.
Thanks, GP for an excellent explanation. Greatly appreciated.
Thanks Gord ! I also have an 8n i used for brushhogging. Slip clutch on that. Didn't give a thought about 1 on my lx261osu till i hit a rock ! Wil definitely check on it !
How's she goin'? The PTO on a tractor can be your best friend or it can be your worst enemy!! That overrun clutch is a good idea. Thanks for sharing!! Take care!!
Cheers Grampie!
Thanks GP, as a new first time owner I truly appreciate the time you take to explain “basics”. 👍
Thanks Rob. Enjoy your new tractor!
That is how I ended up here after I bought a B2601, like Gord had before the new LX2610. Lots of good information here. and I think Gord is a better mechanic than he lets on.
Excellent video and excellent explanation.
Overrunning clutch or sprag clutches are common in other pieces of farm machinery, for the same reasons.
Most automatic transmissions have at least one as well. There are overrunning clutches on some alternator drive pulleys as well.
Thanks Ryan. Great additional info I didn't know. Cheers!
Not a bad idea getting your sheer bolts from dealer. SOME aftermarket bolts have a different (to high) sheer limit and can lead to damage of implements or continues sheering (to low).
Good morning Mr. Gordon! I use that rear to mid PTO trick all the time. makes life much much easier. I also put a slip clutch on my Yanmar YT 235 after I bought my 8" chipper shredder. Was worried about stalling the PTO while using the chipper on larger branches. I dodnt trust shear bolts!
GPPPP it’s good to see that hand in the cookie jar face again. Never forget infants are in heaven tooooo now they have the best attire that we have ever seen.
Wow, that's a lot of great info Gord. I'm gonna rewatch for retention! Thanks for sharing! 👍🙂
Good morning Gord, excellent informative video. In all the years that I have owned a tractor I have never used either the mid or rear PTO. That being said, when I do for the 1st time I will most certainly refer back to this video. Thanks for sharing!
Good job Gord. You have tweaked my interest into a little more research. Thanks. 👍👍
Great video. Learned something new today. Thanks!
Very informative , glad your back . Many Prayers for you and family . Craig. Pa
Thanks so much Craig!
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That overrun clutch was designed for older tractors like you had mentioned. I really don’t think there’s a brake on my PTO shaft.
The only PTO implement I have used on my 2013 JD 1025R is a flail mower. When I disengage the PTO, the hammer drum spins for the better part of a minute. Either my tractor does not have a PTO break, or the implement has some type of release mechanism in it.
If there was a brake in there then you wouldn’t be able to move the PTO shaft back and forth to hook up when the PTO is disengaged.
Good day Mr. R. Not sure what kind of tractor you have but just as FYI , Jimmy has been a heavy equipment mechanic for about 27 years and if you do a simple google search on Kubota hydraulic PTO brake, you will see a hole bunch of reference articles come up on various Kubota models that have a PTO brake. Hope that helps my friend - thanks again for watching.
@@HunterWare Hey thanks for watching - Just FYI - there is . I confirmed it - you can also goole it and find numerous Kubota articles on the PTO brake resident on many Kubota models. Hope that is helpful. Thanks for watching
Yes and no, there is no break as such However the PTO clutch the little yellow thing that you turn on the PTO with does slow down your equipment? So therefore it’s called a clutch brake. I would check with your dealer because it’s designed to work that way and it should last you for many many years. I would never put on some kind of archaic peace designed to work on old Ford 8n’s on my equipment without asking the dealer first. No mater what your friend or the mechanic says it’s probably the wrong thing to do.
Even if it does have another hydronic brake it was designed to Handel whatever you throw at it.
I've never seen one of those over run clutch.. my tractor does not have a mid pto so i bet that would help me attach my implements by allowing me to turn the shaft to hook up.. Thanks im going to look into it.
As always, very well explained! I do have that overrun clutch builtin on my flail mower. I would think you have the same on your bush hog, as well as the splip clutch. Thanks!
Good info Gord. Just started to clear some land with my JD 1025R and thinking about a wood chipper. Hope the bug season has ended in ONT. With the rain we have had here in the Maritimes, mosquitos will be around until the frost hits, I think.
Good morning. Thankfully yes, the deer flies and black flies are gone now for the rest of the year - very few mosquitoes. Best of luck !
Good one Gord!
I thought the quick stopping of the PTO was a safety improvement.
Kind of like the push mower blade brake.
Maybe it’s worth repairing the PTO brake after a few years to have a slightly faster stop.
Morning. Yes I think you are correct - it is a safety feature. I am not sure it provides any other function. Thanks !
GP have you ever used an implement like the Samurai sickle cutter that attaches to the bucket and runs off the third function hydraulics?Or do you have a suggestion for a similar type attachment?
Good morning. I have not used the Samurai 4' sickle bar specifically but have used something very similar. Very handy for trimming back the tree overhang down the sides of the driveway, hedges etc and through stalky brush, and for ditch banks that have stalky growth. It won't cut grass just as an FYI. If you are considering it, I would recommend getting the Deluxe mount as it will pivot the sickle bar to a wider range of angles. Grant is a super nice person. It is certainly much easier than walking with a pole saw or hedge trimmer. LOL. Best of luck!
Some good info right here , thank you. Also to pick your brain a bit GP do you remember where you got the hydraulic cylinder kit for your rear blade. I have checked with both dealers here on PEI and they don't think they exist. Lol any info on that I would greatly appreciate .
Good day Joe! Thanks for tuning in. If you look in your RB16 series rear blade manual, you will see the two available hydraulic kits listed in it. I do not believe they make a kit for the RB15 series but not 100% sure. In the manual, on page 9, you will see the two available hydraulic angle kits and parts numbers there. If the Serial Number of your rear blade is 986200 and up, - part # 301-526A. If your serial # is 71126 - 986199 -, then it is part number 301- 425A. Please check this with your dealer, I am pretty sure I read it correctly. Best of luck and thanks for your support!
Goes to show, if you buy a new tractor or implement, you need a good advisor.
If you buy used, you better know what you are doing.
Hey Gord, I have a LX2610 could you provide information about the clutch model number, I'll order one right away ... as always you provide great information, keep it up.
Hi Gord, thanks for info. I have the B2650 so basically it is the same size tractor as you. Is there a part number for the correct size you can recommend for the PTO adapter. I will be using this for my wood chipper attachment.
JP I was wondering if you could tell me where you got your rear chains for your tractor at
Good day James. Yes, I got them in the US at tirechainsrequired dot com and had them shipped up. I spoke with a nice gentleman named Bill there in Sales. Love them - perfect fit to the tire - I have not needed chain tensioners at all. I only had to grind off a few extra links on the loose chain ends. Cheer and best of luck!
Hi Gord. Hello from Nova Scotia! I've been enjoying your videos lots. I'm waiting on delivery of a cabbed LX2610 myself. Can't wait. In anticipation I've been reading the manual and notice that it says "While the loader is installed on the CAB tractor, the liquid ballast in the rear tires should be removed." Any idea on why this is? Seems a bit odd to me. I had told the dealer to install ballast in the tires but now I'm rethinking things. I still have some time to modify this. Sorry to hijack the comments but since your video was in response to another viewer's question I thought I'd ask. Cheers!
Good morning Jordan and congrats on the new tractor. Very exciting time. I don't know to be honest. I will read the manual next week to get the context of it and perhaps a good idea to ask your dealer too. For me, tire ballast is a must have for sure. Thanks for the info - and enjoy your new tractor!
Hey GP, I’m getting ready to order a rotary cutter for my LX3310. Had no idea about the this issue. Many thanks. BTW, have been sending you silent good thoughts and best wishes.
Thanks Jay! Good luck with the new cutter!
Is there any reason why you wouldn’t want to keep the overrun clutch on all the time regardless of what implement you were using? Kind of like having insurance.
It's not a brake it's a gear!!!
How much overlap do you need on the pto shaft?
Good day Mr . R. I don't have the booklet handy with me today but if I remember correctly, I believe it should be 1/3. I could be wrong as the old memory is not the best but pretty sure it was 1/3. Cheers!
What is the brand name of the overrun clutch? Want to get one?
Got tired of getting pushed around on my old Chinese import yanmar, put overrun clutch on years ago, problem solved.
Hi Gord . If your running a flail mower bush hog on mostly flat ground . The over running clutch adapter is ok . If your backing either mower up a hill this increases double side pressure on your tractor pto shaft . That could snap the pto shaft or take out the bearings in the housing on your pto shaft because of the extra length . Mechanical advantage is a amazing thing when doubled . Wood chippers are killers on the hydraulic clutches on the newer tractors . The overrunning pto adapter will save the pto hydraulic clutch . I had one go bad . It involves splitting the tractor for repair . The part holds the clutch inside from spinning is usally the part that goes . Every time you shut the pto off the stop inside gets slammed eventually wearing down then failing . This causes the pto too keep turning slowly after you shut it off because there is nothing left too hold the clutch and brake assembly . You can buy pto drive shafts with built in over running clutches . Then there is no exstention of the tractor pto for side force in ruff steep mowing conditions . I use the adapter on my wood chipper only . Bush hog and flail are getting pto drive shafts with built in over running clutches because of steep hills . Tractors that do not have mid pto option you have no lever too release the pto too line up the splines so the over running adapter is a great thing in this case .
@@stephenrhodesianridgeback7418 Good morning and thanks for the great info Ridgeback! And very nice to hear from you. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this further. have a nice week and thanks again!
It is unfortunate that you have to buy an override clutch just because of a bad design of the tractor.
Installing an overrun clitch on an independent PTO with a brake... is defeating a safety feature. It kinds of makes the brake completely pointless, if you were to install that clutch though at a minimum make sure it is installed on the implement end, that way the brake will stop your shaft from spinning in the event of an accident. If its not made to install that way... its just plain made wrong.