Gamescom 2016 - David Braben Interview 1
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I love the scientific accuracy of this game. Why I choose ED over NMS or Star Citizen.
Same :)
I didn't particularly choose Elite over other games. I got it because it's right up my alley and looks amazing. Very glad I found it on Steam well over a year ago and that I got the lifetime expansion pass last year when Horizons was first announced.
I might pick up NMS when it's appropriately priced around 20 USD on Steam. I'm not interested in supporting SC and their ship DLC business model.
I also choose a completed game over a game (Star Citizen) which is nowhere near completed. I do think if Star Citizen is ever completed it will be more fun. (I am a backer so am also biased)
I agree as they currently stand Star Citizen looks like it would be more fun, but at this rate by the time it's finnished Elite will have added all the additional features Star Citizen has. it seems like they both started at different ends of the process and will likely meet somewhere in the middle. Elite started with a basic, playable simulation game. Star Citizen started with a bunch of fancy artwork and small unconnected demo games.
To be fair... Elite Dangerous is also far from completed, however, it is a working, "full" game.
I am one of your customers that is very happy that David and his Teams are working to adding science-based realism to the galaxy.
i honestly can do it in space engine for free.
I agree, Elite Dangerous is an Awesome game! The science base gives it a level of realism and presence that other space games just do not have.
This is a Game, not an Engine, and its a ton of fun to play it.
yeah but space engine isn't a game
+chemicalBR0 +Valentin Metz define game
Please guys , go for science , it really is one of your major assets for this game ! Push it , add accretion disks , lava atmospheres , all kinds of different things , it would be lovely
it would make the game even more worth exploring
MrCipasa yes exactly
Been looking into this game since No Man's Sky failed so hard. This gentleman seems very nice and intelligent. I could support him.
this game is what no mans sky promised and tanked on.
+Shane Ploenges they promised multiplayer and in depth gameplay. all you do in that game is mine 5 different resources to unlock more inventory space.
NMS & ED are pretty much the same thing. ED actually has MP in that you can actually interact with other players but the game at the moment is a mindless grind. Braben is talking about < 1% of the ED galaxy being explored - part of the reason is that there's no incentive for people to explore.
NMS and E:D are pretty bloody different. They're both space sims, but there is plenty that isn't the same.
Having the game built on realistic science where viable and compelling is one of the most immersive and greatest achievements of this game. I very much appreciate it and look forward to more.
Yes, I like realism yet Ian Bell has a point where he says games should be fun.
There has to be a balance so your qualification "where viable" is important
Love hearing David talking excitedly about this beautiful work
Ikr, dude seems so passionate about it
Indeed and that he wants to stick to science is great because I couldn't agree more that that's how it should be.
He is one of few, who not just tries to make money by creating and selling game, he is creating his dream game. And I find that game better and better with every update.
Keep up, David! Good work :)
Totally agree with you. Elite: Dangerous is becoming something special.
Kickstarter has helped a lot with bringing big concept development back. I thought not many years back devs like him were history.
The push closer towards realism than fantasy is what makes Elite more interesting to explore than No Man's Sky for me.
exactly
Yeah, exactly. Just having an infinite number of planets doesn't mean anything if it's based on nothing in particular.
Plus NMS is super shallow, boring and buggy as Hell.
So does Elite without dlc though...
the object of nms is to collect 5 different resources throughout the whole game in order to unlock more inventory space. wham
Scientific accuracy is VERY important to me. Without it, exploring a game world this vast and empty would be an exercise in tedium. Knowing that the simulation strives to be accurate, makes me feel that I am actually exploring a probable model of the actual galaxy that people will really explore thousands of years from now and well beyond my life time.
Once Elite Dangerous becomes nothing more than a game, I will lose my interest. But, as it stands now, and improves over time, there's nothing else I would rather put my VR headset on for. And, in fact, my back log of games that haven't been played continues to grow because I always choose to spend my limited time in Braben's vision of our galaxy.
That being said, a big thank you to David Braben, his exceptional team, and the wonderful Elite Dangerous community.
~ CMDR Boyan
Your work is made that much more remarkable because of the scientific accuracy. Please continue on this path
Please FD, release a Braben vlog quarterly. Always great to hear from him directly and it re-assures of the ongoing forward-looking stuff. I agree the science makes ED compelling and enjoy it and hope to see FD continue to expand on it in the game.
"I have no idea what this guy is talking about" - Sean Murray
It's funny, No Man's Sky is literally a space game without any physics at all. There are even floating islands on some of the planets that make no sense whatsoever.
HO man spilled all over the place. Thats the fucking joke of the year there.
+Good Apollo Yeah, and when you destroy the resources you can create floating piles of resources. Also why are there like multiple moons orbiting clearly within the planet's Roche limits?
Good Apollo to be fair to Hello Games, I liked the idea of floating islands which is present in science fiction literature and films (Avatar). But the actual game just has no physical realism whatsoever.
I heard an interview with Murray where he said something like 'no game has ever had a true day and night cycle' where the star changes position causing the cycle.
Makes you wonder if he'd even heard of Elite Dangerous.
In other news; so happy to see that rare objects like neutron stars are going to get an upgrade. Now if they could just make your hyperspace exit be a constant distance from the primary star regardless of size, I'd be a very happy CMDR...
+Good Apollo well Shaun said that it was based on fictional sci-fi, like the floating mountains of Pandora. if you want realism then you shouldn't have bought it because he tld you so
I'm so happy that David and his team got to create this game and continue to work on it. :)
Braben is like an E:D gaben
+Petr Skala David Gaben 😁
Big fan of your work Mister Braben, thank you!
Great interview, thank you.
Science matters, good man Sir. Braben
Still playing this game all the time! Looking forward to the updates and additions with great anticipation. Keep adding in the science, everyone!
God I love listening to him talk... could do so for hours upon hours
I love Elite not only for its dedication to staying true to science and what we know about space, but also the quality of which it's made. Terrain being generated based on tectonic plate behaviour is incredible, it blows my mind every time how organic the terrain looks and how smooth the transition is.
I've always been very interested in volcanoes and cryo-volcanoes in particular. Hearing them being mentioned in one of your first few videos had me super excited and to hear that it's (apparently?) due to arrive with 2.2... Oh boy...
Any news on the gas giants which were hinted in the procedural generation video a long time ago?
It makes me wonder, what are the plans on other interstellar phenomena? Accretion disks for black holes? Quasars? Though I doubt quasars would be very representable due to their luminosity... :P
Please do more of these science and also development videos with Braben, he's so easy to listen to and you can tell he's really excited.
Thank you Mr Braben for this amazing game. I can't get out much for various reasons and this game gives me an escape. I love space, Astronomy, science and science fiction. I can't wait to see the future expansions. Merry Christmas. 😊
David Braben, you're doing a great job since 1984! Aprichiate your work for inspire and entertain us so much with Elite.
I apologize for sometimes being too criticizing, or just a spoiled prat in general, but it's all because I love Elite, it is my favorite and most frustrating game ever made. Frustrating, because I can see how amazing this game can become.
And if you take Elite for what it is and don't compare to others (EVE, SC, etc), it is an amazing experience that nobody can match at the moment. David should do the things he wants to do, don't cave in to fanbase requests of making the game easier/faster and make the game that you envision.
These kind of videos talking about Elite's future should be more frequent, it really re-inspires people to play and just be patient for upcoming great content.
Thanks and good luck.
Love to listen to this guy ...his enthusiasm and his scientific accuracy approach made this game so addictive
Great work love the game, loved it when I first played elite in 1984, and dangerous is just unreal.
How heavily this game is rooted in science is what drew me to it in the first place. Something that helped me stick around is the level of passion from people like David. Can't wait for 2.2.
I do love the effort that you guys give to make the game scientific accurate. :) It's one of the greatest features of the game.
Last night I saw for the first time an Herbig star.
I waited for Elite Dangerous for almost 20 yrs. :)
I always were an Elite fan. Since the first Elite in the 80s. :)
Thank you for this master piece. :)
Cheers
This guy is my hero! and to think they aren't even half way done with content. NMS and star citizen shall tremble before might of the immense elite dangerous galaxy.
I love hearing him talk about the science of the game. I've been playing elite since the 64, loved it then too
'morning David, I follow you from 80's... please, let us landing on every planet of our splendid universe ! I love ED, but I really need more ! :P Best regards
I love that you are respecting science with this. Thank you.
I´ve been playing Elite and its successors since C64 Elite 1984. I Love Elite!!!!!!!
Chain ""... Like many many others here, I've been a fan since the beginning. Thank you, David.
I love to listen mister Braben because he is really passionate by his work ! And ED is a fascinating game !
I absolutely love the fact that the importance behind making the game as scientifically accurate as possible is so great, I believe that is one aspect of elite that makes its unique in the space sim genre and amazing to experience in general. It gives us as players a sense of what it could possible feel like to live in a time were humans have truly attained interplanetary travel but in a way that is very believable and realistic.
Great stuff
Today, I am so proud to be a scifi nerd playing the game of a fellow scifi nerd of this level of enthusiasm and British dignity. Thank you Sir David!
I love the community Elite Dangerous has, honestly the forums are a pretty great place to visit
His enthusiasm is infectious, all hail the Braben
A week ago or so I watched an interview between Stephen Hawkins, Carl Sagan and Arthur C Clarke which was a really cool talk about the universe and such...Now listening to MrBraben here I felt the same way as listening to those wonderful minds.
Amazing how the real world, science and all that can influence the design of a game. That's why I like Elite so much. Physics!!! ;)
Thanks David,...an awesome game and I love the how you bring in the science with the fantasy (afterall we need the fantasy as well otherwise it would take us a very long time to get anywhere)
Fantastic game design philosophy sir, I eagerly await the PS4 release :-)
Did they upload the wrong video? Braben is Thargoid 3303!
This mans enthusiasm is why I backed this game and why my excitement has never dimmed'
I'd like to be as enthusiastic about anything as Mr. Braben is about Elite Dangerous. I could listen to him all day.
David don't say it been out a long time😱 I've still to play my KS backer copy due to deciding to wait on a new PC from my old 2004 build still in daily use. Being an original player in 85 I can't wait to see what you've done with my favourite game ever. Here is to many more years of development and me finally getting in a cockpit. I listen to Lave radio so they keep me going.👍
Elite for ever!
This is why ED is better than other games out there.
Lol, "why bother?" - "Cause it matters to ME". That's how you know the man has passion
I was already planning on jumping back in Elite. I was a premium backer back in the day and played around with it here and there but then lost access to my DK2 and I just love playing this game in VR. I have my CV1 now though so I have been wanting to jump back in but had sold my joystick..just got my new one this morning. However had I not really been planning it I would have after seeing his passion for his project in this video. I already knew about that, but seeing it in these videos is always inspiring. Tried out NMS but way to arcadey and fair or not I kept comparing it to this game and all that you can do in this game. 400 billion systems is more than enough, especially when 18 quintillion planets are so far pumping out so many like planets that I was bored inside of 8 hours. Not knocking NMS, just not for me, but I know others love it. With Elite out there though and SC on the horizon there is just superior options. So coming back and excited about it.
Really wish there was more content in the update. So many broken things in the game and so little depth even still. It just feels like they have so many miles to go yet to even get a dynamic alive feeling universe that doesn't annoy the hell out of the player.
Love to hear him talk like this, the passion is real, and it's contagious. Putting the science in science fiction is exactly why David Braben is the best damn game developer on the planet today.
Very much looking forward to magnetic fields and synchrotron radiation!! Hopefully the intense B field and charged ejecta has some fun with our sensors too ;). Definitely don't want to fly through that polar jet!! Or maybe I do? For science :D
Yeah, I'm wondering if these will just be graphical effects or something of more gameplay significance. With the route plotting changes coming, I think there is a chance we'll see the latter sooner or later. Either way. I'm well pleased and looking forward to these additions.
There are many things wrong with ED, and that is to be expected so early in its days from Beta. One of the reasons why I chose ED and have stuck through the hardships of the game is because of how passionate, how much passion David Braben shows for his body of work. Elite Dangerous is this mans life work and you can see how much he cares for it every time to see him talk about it. This is why I choose to play ED. I agree, many of us do like the science of it all. So keep making that science come alive for us in ED David. Thank you for your passion.
I love this game, and i love combat and stuff...but the best part is the fact this game is REALISTIC! please keep up this side, is a major point for ED. And i'm here sitting in my corvette and yes, i want the atmosphere so much but only if it's made in the proper realistic way! Keep it up guys and don't worry about the negative rewiews on Elite Dangerous, is a farm party, yes,. but is also a amazing game where you can't buy the stuff (like a corvette for example) for extra 49.99£. Keep it up!
Loving it since 1984!
hah someone is getting fired...we already saw the thargoid tentacles
Where were the tentacles?
Everything you see, hear is put there deliberately.
Do you mean the thing at 4:50? Thats an Unknown Artifact which a lot of people found in the game.
Or did you spot something else?
..and his shirt collar. Someone should have seen to that :)
they removed it now
Science accuracy is massively important in a space sim. First 5 hours of Elite and I spent trying to work out where missing planets and stars were based on the gravitational effects on the ones I had the orbits for. I was shooting mushrooms in NMS. If you dont go for science you might as well add light-sabres and the force. NMS desperately needed more fantasy elements to pad the game out because you know that while it might be very pretty theres very little science there to provide the immersion.
I got over 200 hours out of elites science and still play it off and on just due to the immersion you get from it..
I still hate the fact that Hello Games removed planetary rotation because of gamers complaining about disorientation. I'll happily take minor disorientation over having a torch that spins around a star system any day
1:35 How is this going to translate for us when jumping to these systems? Is it going to be a roll of dice to know if we are going to make it safe, since electromagnetic fields will add a new hazard putting a strain on our FSD? Currently the only danger is heat but you can easily avoid it ("full stop" during the jump, making a 180° turn from the star to put some distance) so it is only dangerous if you decide to go closer. With the added electromagnetic fields do we face the possibility of being directly in danger as soon as we finish the jump? If so, do we have a way to predict what kind of danger these stars will pose before jumping (kinda like we can scan a planet to check the gravity and make an educated decision if it is safe to land or not)?
sunspots? are they common? or set by star type classification? would be nice to see those in game
Kudos Braben. The science is the best part as you said. I have learned much and still discovering the scientific connections. It certainly appeals to me, a 63 year old man with lots of interests. Younger people would like just the game but the science will be compelling to a completely different type of adult user. Until you see the views and know something of the science it is hard to explain - playing will get you hooked. Where else except NASA like training can you get this experience. Best game ever for me. Signing off for now. Big_DSH
top man, I love the fact he wants it to be as accurate as possible and its based on good sound science
It maters to me, keep doing what you are doing David :)
why isn't there a VOD of the livestreams from Gamescom2016? I want to see the whole thing not just little clips
Speaking of sciency spacey stuff... when are we getting accretion disks..? Or Roche lobes in close binary stars (or in close enough double planets)?
Also, we've had concept art of atmospheric flight in gas giants practically from the start of the kickstarter; there was even talk about hunting in such an environment. When is _that_ coming..?
Season 3. They've mentioned it numerous times.
HYPE
I've seen planets extemly close to eachothr
I am going to buy this game, which package should I buy from steam? Should I get the one that is $59.99? I only want to play single player, not interested in PvP, but I would like to battle NPC ships.
is there life on other planets that you can find also is there planetary landing on the Xbox one version cuz I want to get this game
Can't wait to explore a volcanic planet. Love this game. I bought into vr souly for this game :S
And how are those $60 patches treating your wallet?
Me too
Ad hominem. Nice. Please, contain your euro trash.
+Tyler Casavant I feel it's worth it actually. I would prefer if all the changes came in one patch though but that would probably lead to lots of day one problems.
+Tyler Casavant the patches are part of horizons which cost 30 bucks if you purchased the beta. everthing were getting isn't charging extra
I have been playing the Amiga game Virus ever since I was a kid and only last week learnt it was made by David Braben
sounds great. but what about newtonian physics on ship movement?
4:47 is another possible Sombra clue obviously.
lmao Braben talked about stealth a lot so maybe lol
also, EICHENWALD!
DB, when will we see "Zarch" as a mini game in ED ?
Black hole accretion disks, yes? :D
Please for the love of god!!! wanna see some interstellar looking like black holes
+Hologramix 1 interstellar black hole was sci-fi fantasy, this game has black holes,
no, the Interstellar black hole was very realistically modeled with the exception of the 5th dimensional stuff. the accretion disc and gravitational lensing look 100% accurate.
J Trigz
Yes this game has black holes, they are so lack luster, hence my comment. At least make them look interesting. I would have been gutted if I was the first guy to Sag A, the monster of our galaxy and saw a little distortion in the lens...
Hologramix 1
that stuff is coming in the next few updates
Is there any chance of seeing Elite Dangerous on PS4?
Totally going to flew into those star and volcanic emissions with the Beluga!
Didn't realize people are still playing ED. I'll have to go take a look to see what changed.
It's still awesome, and it's just going to be more so. This is the kind of game where a community lasts for years.
Aliens have great editing skills to hack between David talking. :)
Gamma Ray bursts included in the new update? Ooooohhhh boy looks like I'm exploring again
they are to rare to be practical to put in, although it would be interesting to outrun the blast of one since we can travel faster then light
but on other hand it would be wierd, because if we pull away from explosion faster then light then the explosion should reverse in time from our perspective.
So what is about landing on planets with atmosphere?
scientific accuracy really matters to me and many many others David!! need one combobox in the options to select:
ARCADE (rookie)
NORMAL (not a sim player and casual players)
SIMULATION (to those who wants scientific accuracy)
It doesn't mean that the FTL or HC should not exists in the game, Im talking about sound travel in space, real dynamic in zero gravity, etc
I know publishers and investers often think (or seem to think) that scientific accuracy doesn't equate to sales, but I'll say that I bought into the Beta early on specifically because of that scientific focus. I know it isn't perfect (FTL, no time dilation, ect), but I've never heard of a space game adding planets to the in-game universe as they are discovered in real life. Or updating the imagery of a planet when a real life probe provides new data. That's just awesome, and worth my investment.
I totally agree, HOWEVER, I think that the galaxy core should be waaaaay brighter than it is right now, with waay more visible stars
I love this guy's enthusiasm and his passion for the game and science of it. Really wish we can get to walking around on ships though, fps mechanics, and garden planets with cities. I'd put that in first then worry about magnetars and ice volcanoes.
Get to cryosleep to 2020 and you might see it all. :)
Large stations and space debris that you can battle around, like cqc, but in open play. That's a *BIG* one for me cause I'm getting bored of flying in circles chasing tails.
+Александр Бенкендорф Sometimes I wish I'd slip into a 5 year coma just to see this game finished.
scientific accuracy matters !! you are sooo right. and i am really happy to hear it ! maybe you guys could make a new kind of videos( short ones ) like " science in elite dangerous " talking about all these details that most players ignore about this game. it would be a really nice idea. Cant wait for the new neutron stars =^_^=. by the way , about science accuracy , i have been having some fun recently by calculating masses of planets ( in real life ) and i have been wondering if elite was acurate about it , so i did some work on it and well...its nearly good , for exemple i calculated the mass of Marrallang B10 using its satellite : marrallang b 10 f . and i have found about 1.650x10 (27) kg , but in elite it is 1.01x10(27) , so how does masses are calculated in elite ? its just a details but i m curious :) keep up the good work guys =^_^=
I love love love the science in this game. so hyped to see volcanism in 2.2
Scientific accuracy matters to us very much Braben! We are exploring our own fucking real galaxy that we actually live in and it's amazing. I love finding some crazy thing and then finding out it's something I haven't ever heard of that actually exists IRL (like Ghost of Jupiter).
I feel like he's maybe holding back because he's afraid we aren't interested :(
I like him discussing it.
Can you guys post a link to the whole recorded stream? Your streaming times suck.
THIS is why I play Elite!
Living legend. Elite: Dangerous is far from perfect, but I trust Braben's vision and I believe we'll have the ultimate space game experience in a few years.
O7 David
Always believed in your vision & still do. Right on cmdr.
ok who is digesting the message in the video white noise moment?
David! You need to charge for 2.2. Your team deserves the added financial push for new content development and employment growth. I have Horizons and a few skins, I'll be more than happy to pay for 2.2. Cheers!
We already did pay for 2.2, Horizons was a season pass.
I think I might stay at Jaques station till after 2.2 as I want to see some of these new stars.
Melted water - David Braben 2016
And actually is water technically ice too? Or water is just a name for the liquid?
I guess I'm the only one to notice the alien message in this video? I think we need to launch a full investigation into this there is something of great importance that's being transmited.
already happening on the forums
I love elite and im soooo excited for those sexy future Updates David Braben is a god
This guy deserves a medal.
Here I come, crawling back from No mans. I'm sorry.............
You really need to be a sci fi/science geek or nerd to fully appreciate Elite Dangerous! This is why I love the game and David's vision because the game needs to be real/semi real. I don't care it's not everyone's cup of tea I love it so glad Frontier have made Elite 4 the others were amazing too.
Is nobody going to ask what that clip was at 4:47?
when does the live stream start