If i let someone drive my car and it breaks I’d never expect them to pay anything at all. I know this man is probably the same but that shows how much of a genuinely nice guy misha is helping with the recovery
Of course it depends on the purpose of them driving it. Was it meant to be driven around a track and have fun with? Then yhea there's an inherent risk of it breaking and you can't expect them to pay. Engine blowing up could be something you yourself did wrong in the past when building it. Did it blow up when they hit a wall? they pay.
If the car breaks I wouldn’t expect him to pay, but if he crashes i most definitely would, if he decides to drive it he also take the responsibility of taking care of the car upon him
Mate you are literally the chillest dude to actually help the guy out covering the storage etc because as you say sure you technically were involved as in driving the car but imo you bear no responsibility breaking it at all.
in all seriousness, i dont get you guys d°ckriding him for taking care of this. he makes big bank with videos where people give HIM their cars to drive. its a goldmine that basically supplies itself. how long do you think this would continue, if he told the guy to gtfo after his car broke down? be realistic, kids. the guy isnt just some average dude who drives cars for fun. this is his job and his reputation on the line. he is just objectively being smart.
@@Schmerki Yes, normal people will do this. Good to se Misha is as he seems in the videos. There ARE some people who would not see the reputation thing and just be dicks because it was technically not their fault.
never go there(undock) with something you cannot afford to lose. for the life of me i dont understand this swede taking his only every day car to the ring and allow it to go to 200 - speed limit in sweden is 110 or maybe 130 but thats about it. The poor volvo doesnt Understand what is happening and naturally something breaks - this car is 10-20 yrs old.. its an old man... material fatigue is a thing boys and girls. It was not prepared for sporting at all.... all the hoses were probably original brittle aged material.. i am surprised it took so long. yeah... fan! helvete! Anyhow.. .we were entertained :) hope he gets it moving again.
This engine should not break like that, people use this engines for racing and drifting. As a "redblock" owner, this looks like a lack of maintenance. You didn't even hit the limiter.
Should visit sweden, broke volvos of any kind is extremely common. But judging from your comment maybe the love for volvos that is to much for your heart to see haha.
These engines cost like 400 bucks and can be found any day of the week. I've replaced everything but the engine internals on mine and virtually nothing has been cost prohibitive or difficult to do
Ive been working with volvo 8v engines all my life, and its correct. Many Times engine broke Down during trackday, i collected a new one and rebuilt it same night, and drove again next Day, for almost no money at all, nomather where in swedwn you are, you never have to drive more than 30 min to pick up a used engine. Actually you can hear the bearing nock in first brake/turn in, suprprised it worked so long time after that. He should have overfilled engine atleast 1 litre for this kind of high rpm driving😂😂 The stock MAX level on the dipstick is a guidline for those elderly People never revving it past 3000rpm 😂😂😂
@@knotannrkpg The rattle that is heard from the start is propably the fan or something else resonating. The owner says the knocking is the fan at first also.
@@MrAsddasdasda maybe, but I doubt it, since the original visco-fan and plastic is removed the electric fan probobly isnt spinning at such high speed/airflow. And this is the kind of noice b23/230@)s are making due to oil-starvation during hard brake at high rpms. All Volvos used for on track have normally a upgrade drysump pump or heavymodificated oilpan and crankcase ventilation/catchcansystems that this engine seem to not have. Anyway, i bet there is a new enginge in it already
Despite what happened on track, perhaps my favourite car this entire year ive seen you drive. Nobody would think of a good ol' Volvo 240 to take on track but with a bit of parts and some tuning they are quite capable. My dad in the past owned bunch of RWD turbo charged Volvos and im quite sad I wasn't even born when he had them and never had the opportunity to experience them. One thing for sure tho, this car does not need body-cage to keep all occupants safe so theres that.
I could hear rod knock every time it was pushed hard on a right hand corner for a long time before it blew. Seems to me lateral G caused oil starvation and bearing failure. When you get a replacement engine make your own baffle plates (anti-surge) for the sump.
Is definitely not your (or anybody's) fault. It's a machine and it's not meant to live forever, when you put it onto the ring, you know that you'll demand to the car "more" than he usually can offer. This kind of things happen and you're an awesome man, we all know you feel bad because it's other's car but hey, health prevail over all! Love u ♥
Excuse me, old Volvo's ARE meant to live forever! In a more serious note, you're right. It's an object after all, it's being used. Eventually every car will break sooner or later.
I wonder if oil starvation in the long corners contributed to the engine failure? Thumbs up for a great video and going above and beyond to help out a fellow gear head.
@@vasek987 I know nothing about Volvo engines, but have built some old Datsun engines for road racing. Seems like a windage tray in the oil pan could be a potential easy fix.
But also you could hear that noise that the owner insisted was the fan from the get go. I'd say it had a dodgy rod bearing from the beginning and that drive spun it completely and the rod cap or big end smashed through the block. Unfortunate but inevitable.
Its crazy that the engine blew, threw out bits from the bottom end, and still didn't loose much (if any) oil, really curious how that worked?! Definitely lucky that it didn't make a mess on the track.
my idea is that the oil got too hot and stopped giving the bearings enough lubrication since he decided to not run the original oil cooler mounted on the turbo variant of these engines, the oil filter seems to be a cheap "Biltema" filter too which is like Ebay quality.
One of the most exciting videos in my opinion! Fast sportscars are cool, but this one beautifully shows the driver's skillset on the track. Would be great to have an additional camera following the car, from the outside this must have been SCARY to watch 🙂
I'm sure it was the wet sump oil system. Probably starved it of oil going around all those corners. RIP little engine. You've served with honor and dignity.
im more sure that it was temperature related since he wasnt running an oilcooler, guess it made the oil thin enough to not lubricate and possibly also starved it as a result
One of the most fun recent laps! She still ran as well! Recently blew a hole out of both sides of my block due to a stuck open injector :( Still drove me home, but feel your pain!
That’s so cool to see the old brick hammered around the ring. Really surprised to see one throw a leg out of bed. I guess you could say there’s now an inspection window. They’re not a heavy car, 1350-1400kg tops with a turbo motor. My 244 was 1280kg. They are softly sprung so lean a lot but it helps allow the big heavy live axle at the rear to move without upsetting the body too much. I hope you get it on the road again soon. Long live Redblock power 💪 Greetings from Oz.
@Bassalicious the 245 estates are my absolute fav of the lot. And they may not say it out loud but they'll softly say to themselves while they drive by, 'those things are cool'.
I'm also driving a 245, but with a b230a engine and aw70 transmission, it's slow, handles like a boat, but I would never trade it for anything else (ok, maybe a ford escort mk1 with a sierra cosworth engine)
Almost rust free 240 shell is very desirable here in Scandinavia so surely it would be best to just fix it up and get the baby back on road! Shame it didnt last the whole run! But surely it will come stronger when its fixed! Maybe it starvated on oil when cornering fast?
Fun but sad lap Misha :/ Tho it seem to have some weird noise from the engine all the time since the start of the lap, maybe some internals were already cracked? Because even the owner thought its something common like a fan.. anyways looking to see this car back again with better engine!
B230 bottom end... yeah, it can happen... be proud you killed one, Misha! That is not an easy task. I've had several of these with many more miles and pushed as hard as you were pushing. I've also had 2 break from other issues. One was an oil pump pressure spring break and the other was head gasket failure. I've had one go through the side of the block like that, but it was after we abused the *crap out of it (driving from Dallas to Wichita KS with a known blown head gasket - but had to get home ASAP and didn't want to abandon car... things you do when you're poor) it made it home (took 12 quarts of oil) and then 2 weeks later, it got revved very high, and the wrist pin let go, putting the connecting rod through the block up high like what that one did. Almost no leakage of oil, but a dead motor.
A lot of the rattling sound earlier in the lap before it blew up is the fan for the ventilation in the car, which is why the owner first thought it was just the fan when they heard the rod knock. The fans in these old Volvos tend to touch the housing they're inside and make some really terrible sounds, especially when going over bumps. You can hear that the noise isn't consistent with engine RPM.
@@Bassalicious Just the "standard" setup that most people run, B230FK block with B234F head. Forged rods, stock pistons and crank. GTX2871R turbo, homemade exhaust manifold and intake plenum. It’s mostly a street car so I’m going with a small turbo, aiming for around 350-400hp at the flywheel with good low-end torque and driveability. And then good suspension and brakes obviously.
@@NorwayVFX Sounds like a lovely setup, good luck with it! My dream setup would be the same bottom end as yours but with a 8V 531 head and around 1.5 bar of boost. Sadly all that stuff is illegal in Germany unless you have hundreds of thousands of Euros to burn. Edit: Forgot to say I'm driving a 245 with a bone stock B230F and M47.
Misha just broken the Nokia 3310 of automobile. 😅😂 I wish the Volvo come back stronger with better brakes too, IMO that's the only other things that need attention. And maybe more cooler.
Great vid, can't wait to see the follow up. Very kind of you to cover recovery / storage costs. Let's see this puppy back on coil-overs, lightened, with a big turbo engine. Oh and perhaps a bigger rad!
Thats nice of you Misha. You are good guy. Great of you to do that for him. BTW, I run an electronic music label, let me know if you ever need some music for your videos.
Have blown a few 240 engines, transmission and rear axles. The best 240 I had was a 1981 TIC with 1,5bar, volvo r-sport suspension parts. In a 240 you should always mount a powerful electric fan. Just don't go after how big it is, look after how much air it can push thru the radiator.
The best laugh I have had in a while Misha.... That Corvette driver did not want to be passed by a dirty old Volvo 240 😂😂😂😂 reminds me of Sabine in the Ford Transit on Topgear.... you driving this underdog car was very entertaining... great upload..👍
Legendary car, top class in its year. You are the best not only accepting to take this baby for a ride in the track but also for taking care of it after the incident. Respect Misha!
Lovely car in a lovely colour, totally not biased since I have an 85 estate the same tone. Better cooling system, new engine, new H-beam rods for it would be a good idea and that engine would be good and reliable for MUCH more boost! 240s definitely are an underdog on the race track but the Group A race cars proved the chassis very competitive in the 80s so don't let their boxy looks fool you, they can be track beasts too
I miss my 85 estate in that color... it was just a plain non-turbo with an automatic (with o/d) we drove that thing from 170,000 miles until 390,000 and then sold it to another guy when the fuel pump went out - and it had a weird little knock/rattle on start up - he was still driving it 4 years later, and it still had that same little rattle... Great car to go cross-country with 2 little kids... Cheers!
The old redblocks are weird beasts, supposedly the lpt version was 140ish bhp, the hpt a little over 190 in top sport trim. I have an lpt, but with a bigger turbo and running hpt boost levels, so maybe 200-220ish bhp. It's not quick quick, but it's the midrange where these things excel, they just pull like a train.
I was at the the track on the same day with my 2006 fiesta st, it was my first ever lap and my rear muffler fell of and was barely hanging after caroussel. I didnt knew at the time that you can freerly stop at the safe place on the track if something is broken and drove it to the end praying that it it will not fall of 😂. At least now I know what to do when stuff like this happens..😅
I think to engine failed due to high oil temps, thin oil , probably worn crankshaftsbearrings and the G forces in brunchen that possibly left the oil pickup dry made this engine blow up . Nice lap and very brave!
I love that in most videos, Misha rarely uses the mirrors cost he is going to fast, this one it’s once a second! All cars deserve the chance to be driven like this :)
Thanks for the Volvo content. The legendary mark is supposed to last forever but under the heel and toe of Misha... Where do members of the Volvo Club Canada send support to this and other campaigners you bust ?
Just sounded like a typical rod bearing failure after those 267 thousand kms - it could happen to any motor :) What's more impressive is that when it created the inspection window in the block, it didn't drop any fluids on the track! Wonder if that was an intentional piece of engine bay design from good ol' Volvo? :P
I have such a soft spot for 240 GLs! It was my first car and I loved it until it threw a rod after some **spirited** driving. I cant wait until the restomod community really get their hands on them and blows us all away! Good on you Misha for helping this guy out.
That was an epic send off for that Volvo. It may have only lasted 9 mins but what a 9 minutes. I was hoping you were going to buy it and turn it into a track sleeper.
Amazing lap!! Its so much fun to watch ❤ As a fellow 240 owner that also have a B230FK engine it makes me happy to see this, makes me smile alot :) Sad it broke down but hey, old car issue 😅 If the owner cant find an engine i might sell mine 😮😎
Youre such a nice guy. Helping youre followers out this was not youre fault at all, but you still want to help him so sweet. Now for the fun very impressive you blew up a volvo xd
Love this video. You respected that car so much driving it around. And the. You have give him great advice about the car which to me makes perfect sense. Thanks for the amazing video 💙🙏🏼✌🏼
I thought the sound was the fender touching the tire wall but that must have been a rod knock from the get go. Bad bearing maybe since the sound kinda followed the body roll 😂Hilarious
Haha I thought exactly the same - that noise COULD be a fender or smt, but then I saw that it depended on the revs and I was like “ok, that is the matter of time, I wonder whether he will notice that”. Turns out he didn’t 😂 but it lasted for quite a while, so that’s something
that rattle in most of the video is actually the a/c heater fan motor... it sits in the center console, and on older 240s they start making that noise, especially when turning corners... and it's a real PITA to change out - with some careful cutting, you can get it done in about 4 hours. Volvo pays 12 hours in tech manual to change it. It's like the entire dash is built around it. The first actual knock I heard was just as they were coming into/around Carousel, and it was different by just a tone downward. I should state, I've owned 17 Volvos, and broken 3 motors ( all redblocks, each with over 200,000 miles on them, one with over 450,000 miles on it... and it rattled for a LONG time, albeit not pushing redline for 10 miles) so I know what they sound like when coming apart.
Misha being Misha top man for helping him 👍 just did my first ring trip from uk last week ! Hoped to see you at apex but no bueno ! Maybe next time , been a long time viewer all them videos really did help me 4 laps done and dusted 🫡 can’t wait to come back for more 🤘
Wow, this is wild. A stock Volvo red block blowing up is RARE. Even when it's a swap. My car has the NA version of this engine, the B230F, and it's as happy as could be at over 440.000 km. Over 1 million km isn't unusual for these engines at all. It must have spun a bearing or worse judging from the sound.
yep the redblocks are bulletproof most of the time, but on a track like this without an oilcooler it wasnt going to last long with any kind of serious beating. i have severely overheated mine once getting the gauge to the red part without breaking the gasket or warping the head, true miracle ;))
@@stridsvagn1039 Oh right and the turbo won't help oil temps either. Yeah that might be the culprit. Mine never goes above halfway on the gauge, but I don't have an oil temp gauge and I never took it to the race track either.
Recently learned about Red Block Volvos and when this video popped up I was like "No way!".. Takes a legend to break a legend I guess - they need to resurrect that car and keep the stories going, I believe it'll be possible and quite awesome. Love the engine compartment light😝
Recently learned about Red Block Volvos and when this video popped up I was like "No way!".. hoped there would be one mention of it, lol Takes a legend to break a legend I guess - they need to resurrect that car and keep the stories going, I believe it'll be possible and quite awesome. Love the engine compartment light😝
My wife and i are planning a trip to Europe in the next yr or so. Was thinking about shipping one of our cars over. Not for certain yet. If we do it will be our 2005 e46 330i zhp 6 speed. It would be a honor to have you (misha) thrash it around the nurburgring.
Misha you Sir are a good man. You didnot have to pay for any monetary charges due to he allow you to drive his car. I would not expect you to pay anything if something brake on my car. Kudos to a really good man and keep doing an excellent job at the Green Hell!
The one time my favourite car is on the channel and it's in my favourite colour too it blows the engine despite being virtually bulletproof. Wth, I feel robbed :D
Since 1977, my family only drives Volvo. I currently own a 960. Especially the 240 has a special place for me, because when I was born, we had 3 240s in our house.
Misha, I hope you can do an update of this when the engine arrives. Also why LS swap it? Rotary swap it instead... be different! 👍 Just imagine a rotary engine with a variomatic transmission. That would be a pretty interesting combination. 👍
Very kind of you Misha, it's not your fault. if one chooses to let them run a lap with you, they accept it gets pushed. So doing that for him is very kind. :)
There used to be a company called Steffansson Automotive that had all the parts to turn your 1981 to 1984 Volvo 242 Turbo into the 1983 Group-A DTM homologation version. The firewall braces on this car were available from Volvo as were the bottom supports. Ipd, a Volvo Tuner from Portland, OR (USA) had a cross tower brace and sway bars. The rear end is a Dana 44 that could easily accept a Quaiffe or LSD. The best engine is the B23FT from the 740. My old 242 Turbo would have done much better on the ring, but it was sold years ago.
Long before the engine exploded, it was heard in every turn that there was not enough lubrication, flying bearings were heard. I think the oil was very low and the oil pump was drawing air at times. 😭😭😭
A lot of the rattling sound earlier in the lap before it blew up is the fan for the ventilation in the car, which is why the owner first thought it was just the fan when they heard the rod knock. The fans in these old Volvos tend to touch the housing they're inside and make some really terrible sounds, especially when going over bumps. You can hear that the noise isn't consistent with engine RPM.
Hat off to you for being such a gentleman. The young owner will defenetely have a story to tell his grandchildren. As far as the drive went before the incident............EPIC!
Ah, this brings back memories.......... It was the weekend of "Live Aid" in 1985 and we were ready to drive to Benidorm in Spain ( from Bergen ) in an 1977 Ford Taunus 2.0L. Due to one of the guys working late the plan was to start driving at 23.00 Friday night and go non stop. We got about 7 km when the engine developed an knocking noise, so we turned around and limped to my workshop. We tore the head off the engine and found that cylinder 3 was missing a large piece of the piston, so a new engine was needed. Next morning we called all the local breakers yards to try to find a Ford 2.0 SOHC engine but no one had any in, what to do. Called everyone again, did they have an 1.6L SOHC engine in ? One breakers yard had one that he did not know the mileage or condition of so we told him "sold", we are coming to pick it up. While 2 of the guys went to pick it up, me and a friend tore the engine out of the car. They came back with an engine severely rusted on the outside and told us that it was lying on the ground outside of the breakers shed! Anyway, we got the engine in and connected and tried to start it. It barely cranked over but after some attempts it turned over easier and eventually started, success! We repacked the car and left at about 21.00 Saturday evening. The engine was not good as shown when is started boiling after 5 km, so we got some water from a small river and refilled the cooling system. We decided to turn around, not to give up, but to grab some plastic containers for water as we might need them for the 2900 km journey ( one way ). We also packed some more tools...... Long story short, we "boiled" our way to Spain. It got better as the rust and the gunk got boiled out of the coolant system. When we were in Benidorm, we found a Ford dealer and managed to order a new water pump and thermostat and swapped the parts in the Ford dealers parking lot. It cured the problem as the car only boiled twice on the return leg from Benidorm. I can safely say it was the most fun road trip/vacation I have ever had........
It’s none of you guys fault, shit happens sometimes bro. I wish the best luck to this Swede guy, hope he can manage to bring his engine in one piece again or swap it.
Im sure that is what the car wanted instead of being alone and stuck under some leaves and left to rot to die. And ones the engine is replaced will be able to continue to make memories for him and the owner, simply this car just got interesting and is basically laying down its own story for everyone to see, love it! and another take away from this video is your nobility "Im not responsible but i feel involved" that will resonate to a lot of young and old viewers and hope will teach them a thing or two that it does not have to be your fault or be accountable to be able to decide if your going to help a fellow human being. Props to your parents for raising Misha!
If this guy wants to play with the car i can sell him engine out of the newer Volvo v70 b5254t 2.4t he would have to find a way to rotate the engine because it's tranverse mount and he would need some gearbox adapter
❤️❤️❤️ A Volvo 244DL 1979, was my first car, and I wrecked the engine at 150kmh near Liege in Belgium in 1997 or so. What a car, the Schwedenpanzer ❤️❤️❤️
Was a blast to ride along whilst it was running hopefully it will be running soon again so we can do another lap :')
Sweet little Volvo man! You passed a Corvette!
Harder, Better, Faster, Stonger! Pick one!
Setup a gofundme for the 240 I'll happily throw you a tenner for the entertainment of this lap and the car MUST LIVE!
Maybe get an engine upgrade too now
@@vsinstinct4405a white block would be awesome
If i let someone drive my car and it breaks I’d never expect them to pay anything at all. I know this man is probably the same but that shows how much of a genuinely nice guy misha is helping with the recovery
Of course it depends on the purpose of them driving it. Was it meant to be driven around a track and have fun with? Then yhea there's an inherent risk of it breaking and you can't expect them to pay. Engine blowing up could be something you yourself did wrong in the past when building it.
Did it blow up when they hit a wall? they pay.
If the car breaks I wouldn’t expect him to pay, but if he crashes i most definitely would, if he decides to drive it he also take the responsibility of taking care of the car upon him
Except the fact is the car didn't just break, the driver ignored clear signs of failure and kept pushing the engine until it failed
@@radtap wat
@@MrAsddasdasda you heard me
Mate you are literally the chillest dude to actually help the guy out covering the storage etc because as you say sure you technically were involved as in driving the car but imo you bear no responsibility breaking it at all.
Brah buddy just picked up the car for a case of beer im sure he was ready to be lit on fire
He did not crash the car or abuse the car, so it is perfectly fine.
in all seriousness, i dont get you guys d°ckriding him for taking care of this.
he makes big bank with videos where people give HIM their cars to drive. its a goldmine that basically supplies itself.
how long do you think this would continue, if he told the guy to gtfo after his car broke down?
be realistic, kids. the guy isnt just some average dude who drives cars for fun. this is his job and his reputation on the line.
he is just objectively being smart.
@@Schmerkisomeone who has a brain, kind of rare to see.
@@Schmerki Yes, normal people will do this. Good to se Misha is as he seems in the videos. There ARE some people who would not see the reputation thing and just be dicks because it was technically not their fault.
5 stars for bravery to lap this old beast on the ring
These were some of the best handling car chassis' in the world when they came out and are still to this day built for rally use...
@@MV-ri7zulol..
never go there(undock) with something you cannot afford to lose.
for the life of me i dont understand this swede taking his only every day car to the ring and allow it to go to 200 - speed limit in sweden is 110 or maybe 130 but thats about it.
The poor volvo doesnt Understand what is happening and naturally something breaks - this car is 10-20 yrs old.. its an old man... material fatigue is a thing boys and girls.
It was not prepared for sporting at all.... all the hoses were probably original brittle aged material.. i am surprised it took so long.
yeah... fan! helvete! Anyhow.. .we were entertained :) hope he gets it moving again.
Props to you Misha for handling this unfortunate situation admirably. What a great car, hope the owner gets back on the ring ASAP.
That corvette owner must have been either embarrassed or laughing his ass off getting passed by a 240. Love this!
There is a swedish song about a Chevrolet getting outrun by a "shitty fucking Volvo". Good to see it has some merit
Well…. Looks like the Corvette owner got the last laugh tho 😂😂😂😂
Love this! When i finish my 245 i want you to drive it Misha. Full suspension, big brakes, upgraded turbo. Should be fun
YES PLS
This would actually be awesome to see!
Don't forgot the cooling ;)
Our last 245 was the color of this one. Man I miss that car!
Just make sure it's legal in Germany or it will be impounded.
This engine should not break like that, people use this engines for racing and drifting. As a "redblock" owner, this looks like a lack of maintenance. You didn't even hit the limiter.
We appreciate a lot you doing runs with less powerful or more exotic cars. Thanks man
Exactly!
15:33 👍👍👍👍. You're right, this was 0% on you; but that you nonetheless decided to help the fellow out is so commendable.
Carmmendable? 😊
@@lucylovitt9583 😆😆
First time I've seen a broken Volvo. thanks misha :)
Me too :(
It takes a special skill to do that ;-)
Must be CGI.
Should visit sweden, broke volvos of any kind is extremely common. But judging from your comment maybe the love for volvos that is to much for your heart to see haha.
My 240 has refused to run a couple of times, but generally is quite reliable. Couldn't get it over 180kp/h on the autobahn though, N/A life :p
Thank you Misha for driving affordable cars, and for being humble and polite. Everyone feels included, and not overlooked❤
Such a shame. 😢 hope the owner rebuilds it better than before
These engines cost like 400 bucks and can be found any day of the week. I've replaced everything but the engine internals on mine and virtually nothing has been cost prohibitive or difficult to do
Ive been working with volvo 8v engines all my life, and its correct. Many Times engine broke Down during trackday, i collected a new one and rebuilt it same night, and drove again next Day, for almost no money at all, nomather where in swedwn you are, you never have to drive more than 30 min to pick up a used engine.
Actually you can hear the bearing nock in first brake/turn in, suprprised it worked so long time after that.
He should have overfilled engine atleast 1 litre for this kind of high rpm driving😂😂
The stock MAX level on the dipstick is a guidline for those elderly People never revving it past 3000rpm 😂😂😂
@@knotannrkpg The rattle that is heard from the start is propably the fan or something else resonating. The owner says the knocking is the fan at first also.
@@MrAsddasdasda maybe, but I doubt it, since the original visco-fan and plastic is removed the electric fan probobly isnt spinning at such high speed/airflow.
And this is the kind of noice b23/230@)s are making due to oil-starvation during hard brake at high rpms.
All Volvos used for on track have normally a upgrade drysump pump or heavymodificated oilpan and crankcase ventilation/catchcansystems that this engine seem to not have.
Anyway, i bet there is a new enginge in it already
@@knotannrkpg Could be oil starvation for sure.
Despite what happened on track, perhaps my favourite car this entire year ive seen you drive. Nobody would think of a good ol' Volvo 240 to take on track but with a bit of parts and some tuning they are quite capable. My dad in the past owned bunch of RWD turbo charged Volvos and im quite sad I wasn't even born when he had them and never had the opportunity to experience them. One thing for sure tho, this car does not need body-cage to keep all occupants safe so theres that.
Human aren’t that simple
You did the impossible misha🤣🤣
SAD
Not impossible.... just highly improbable. :)
@@CaptainSeamus But still damn near impossible 😜
@@danishghostrider FACT! 🤣
I could hear rod knock every time it was pushed hard on a right hand corner for a long time before it blew. Seems to me lateral G caused oil starvation and bearing failure. When you get a replacement engine make your own baffle plates (anti-surge) for the sump.
Is definitely not your (or anybody's) fault. It's a machine and it's not meant to live forever, when you put it onto the ring, you know that you'll demand to the car "more" than he usually can offer. This kind of things happen and you're an awesome man, we all know you feel bad because it's other's car but hey, health prevail over all! Love u ♥
Excuse me, old Volvo's ARE meant to live forever!
In a more serious note, you're right. It's an object after all, it's being used. Eventually every car will break sooner or later.
I wonder if oil starvation in the long corners contributed to the engine failure? Thumbs up for a great video and going above and beyond to help out a fellow gear head.
I was thinking the same thing. If I had to guess, I‘d say oil starvation killed it.
Most likely. You can hear some noise few corners before that were not the fan clearly...
@@vasek987 I know nothing about Volvo engines, but have built some old Datsun engines for road racing. Seems like a windage tray in the oil pan could be a potential easy fix.
My guess also, not uncommon to put in baffles in the sump of the red blocks if you use it for some more enthusiastic driving.
But also you could hear that noise that the owner insisted was the fan from the get go. I'd say it had a dodgy rod bearing from the beginning and that drive spun it completely and the rod cap or big end smashed through the block. Unfortunate but inevitable.
Its crazy that the engine blew, threw out bits from the bottom end, and still didn't loose much (if any) oil, really curious how that worked?! Definitely lucky that it didn't make a mess on the track.
The hole seems to be well above the oil level so that probably helped a lot. It must've splashed out a bit though.
@@dirkmohrmann8960 yea that's what I was thinking, still seems it failed in the best catastrophic way haha.
Yeah, maybe the oil pump seized or something?
my idea is that the oil got too hot and stopped giving the bearings enough lubrication since he decided to not run the original oil cooler mounted on the turbo variant of these engines, the oil filter seems to be a cheap "Biltema" filter too which is like Ebay quality.
@@stridsvagn1039 definitely possible, something definitely seized and left the engine, that we know for sure!
One of the most exciting videos in my opinion! Fast sportscars are cool, but this one beautifully shows the driver's skillset on the track. Would be great to have an additional camera following the car, from the outside this must have been SCARY to watch 🙂
I'm sure it was the wet sump oil system. Probably starved it of oil going around all those corners. RIP little engine. You've served with honor and dignity.
im more sure that it was temperature related since he wasnt running an oilcooler, guess it made the oil thin enough to not lubricate and possibly also starved it as a result
You'd be correct. They have massive oil starvation issues with factory sumps.
@@stridsvagn1039 Probably both. Mitsu 13 @ 1-1.2 bar (?) + original sump + no idea what temps + no idea what press = death on the nords.
One of the most fun recent laps! She still ran as well! Recently blew a hole out of both sides of my block due to a stuck open injector :( Still drove me home, but feel your pain!
That’s so cool to see the old brick hammered around the ring. Really surprised to see one throw a leg out of bed. I guess you could say there’s now an inspection window.
They’re not a heavy car, 1350-1400kg tops with a turbo motor. My 244 was 1280kg.
They are softly sprung so lean a lot but it helps allow the big heavy live axle at the rear to move without upsetting the body too much.
I hope you get it on the road again soon.
Long live Redblock power 💪
Greetings from Oz.
even tho you are not responsible and still payed for storaage and all , that is a very nice gesture. Respect
One of the most eye catching cars on the road, love these old volvos.
I think so too but most people don't apparently. Maybe that's because I'm driving a 245 but it's very rare for it to turn heads.
@Bassalicious the 245 estates are my absolute fav of the lot. And they may not say it out loud but they'll softly say to themselves while they drive by, 'those things are cool'.
used to have a 240 wagon, shit condition but got lots of attention here in the uk!
@@angryii5411 I like to imagine that too :D
I'm also driving a 245, but with a b230a engine and aw70 transmission, it's slow, handles like a boat, but I would never trade it for anything else (ok, maybe a ford escort mk1 with a sierra cosworth engine)
Fair play Misha, very decent of you to help the guy out. Hopefully there will be a positive outcome for the owner 🙏
hier gibts keinen Herz von Misha?? oh please.. :D:D:D
A real Volvo, it has to live on.
Almost rust free 240 shell is very desirable here in Scandinavia so surely it would be best to just fix it up and get the baby back on road! Shame it didnt last the whole run! But surely it will come stronger when its fixed! Maybe it starvated on oil when cornering fast?
Fun but sad lap Misha :/ Tho it seem to have some weird noise from the engine all the time since the start of the lap, maybe some internals were already cracked? Because even the owner thought its something common like a fan.. anyways looking to see this car back again with better engine!
Yeah, it was knocking on deceleration from early on
@@TimmayytooHmmm makes me wonder if the timing was off
That rattling noise predicted big trouble imho
B230 bottom end... yeah, it can happen... be proud you killed one, Misha! That is not an easy task. I've had several of these with many more miles and pushed as hard as you were pushing. I've also had 2 break from other issues. One was an oil pump pressure spring break and the other was head gasket failure. I've had one go through the side of the block like that, but it was after we abused the *crap out of it (driving from Dallas to Wichita KS with a known blown head gasket - but had to get home ASAP and didn't want to abandon car... things you do when you're poor) it made it home (took 12 quarts of oil) and then 2 weeks later, it got revved very high, and the wrist pin let go, putting the connecting rod through the block up high like what that one did. Almost no leakage of oil, but a dead motor.
I love that he put this on the track, I’d love to see
More low powered runs.😊
I was listening to that knock from the start of the lap already with a keen ear...
Yes, it was already doomed.
I think the camera amplifies the sound. It was probably way quieter for them.
@@josephsamsor1698yes, mics are way better at picking these sounds up than human ears.
A lot of the rattling sound earlier in the lap before it blew up is the fan for the ventilation in the car, which is why the owner first thought it was just the fan when they heard the rod knock. The fans in these old Volvos tend to touch the housing they're inside and make some really terrible sounds, especially when going over bumps. You can hear that the noise isn't consistent with engine RPM.
OK. It's not as slow as I thought it would be, it surprised me 😅
Misha, you are such a good person, i hope for the best to you, car and owner
The pickup from 120-180 was actually impressive
I thought the same then I realised that the needle just moves faster with a "short" speedo that only reads to 200kph
This is the fastest 180 hp car I have seen in these videos
Hell yes, love me some brick content! Hopefully I will bring my 1973 Volvo 145 with a 16v turbo swap to the ring in the near future.
B234 or some other engine?
@@Bassalicious Just the "standard" setup that most people run, B230FK block with B234F head. Forged rods, stock pistons and crank.
GTX2871R turbo, homemade exhaust manifold and intake plenum. It’s mostly a street car so I’m going with a small turbo, aiming for around 350-400hp at the flywheel with good low-end torque and driveability.
And then good suspension and brakes obviously.
@@NorwayVFX Sounds like a lovely setup, good luck with it!
My dream setup would be the same bottom end as yours but with a 8V 531 head and around 1.5 bar of boost.
Sadly all that stuff is illegal in Germany unless you have hundreds of thousands of Euros to burn.
Edit: Forgot to say I'm driving a 245 with a bone stock B230F and M47.
Misha just broken the Nokia 3310 of automobile. 😅😂
I wish the Volvo come back stronger with better brakes too, IMO that's the only other things that need attention.
And maybe more cooler.
Misha staying humble AF helping the lad out. Top man ❤
Great vid, can't wait to see the follow up. Very kind of you to cover recovery / storage costs. Let's see this puppy back on coil-overs, lightened, with a big turbo engine. Oh and perhaps a bigger rad!
`As usual, you come through for your fellow car enthusiast. What a class act and the owner will have a great story and hopefully another one soon.
Thats nice of you Misha. You are good guy. Great of you to do that for him.
BTW, I run an electronic music label, let me know if you ever need some music for your videos.
Go Torslanda ❤ I would love to see the C8 owners face in the beginning
I remember my friends build a 242 with a 960 motor with a turbo it was a beast
Have blown a few 240 engines, transmission and rear axles.
The best 240 I had was a 1981 TIC with 1,5bar, volvo r-sport suspension parts. In a 240 you should always mount a powerful electric fan. Just don't go after how big it is, look after how much air it can push thru the radiator.
By overheating them?
@@andrewaton3353 overheat, rods thru the blocks etc
The best laugh I have had in a while Misha.... That Corvette driver did not want to be passed by a dirty old Volvo 240 😂😂😂😂 reminds me of Sabine in the Ford Transit on Topgear.... you driving this underdog car was very entertaining... great upload..👍
Legendary car, top class in its year. You are the best not only accepting to take this baby for a ride in the track but also for taking care of it after the incident. Respect Misha!
Best of your videos so far. Included nostalgica, low expectations, high expectations, joy and sadness. 5/5
Lovely car in a lovely colour, totally not biased since I have an 85 estate the same tone. Better cooling system, new engine, new H-beam rods for it would be a good idea and that engine would be good and reliable for MUCH more boost!
240s definitely are an underdog on the race track but the Group A race cars proved the chassis very competitive in the 80s so don't let their boxy looks fool you, they can be track beasts too
I miss my 85 estate in that color... it was just a plain non-turbo with an automatic (with o/d) we drove that thing from 170,000 miles until 390,000 and then sold it to another guy when the fuel pump went out - and it had a weird little knock/rattle on start up - he was still driving it 4 years later, and it still had that same little rattle...
Great car to go cross-country with 2 little kids... Cheers!
That's the fastest 160hp I've ever seen! Looked more like double until it turned into 1hp air compressor at 11:59
The old redblocks are weird beasts, supposedly the lpt version was 140ish bhp, the hpt a little over 190 in top sport trim.
I have an lpt, but with a bigger turbo and running hpt boost levels, so maybe 200-220ish bhp. It's not quick quick, but it's the midrange where these things excel, they just pull like a train.
Well its only a little under 1300kg and has good power thoughout the powerband unlike a honda engine.
I was at the the track on the same day with my 2006 fiesta st, it was my first ever lap and my rear muffler fell of and was barely hanging after caroussel. I didnt knew at the time that you can freerly stop at the safe place on the track if something is broken and drove it to the end praying that it it will not fall of 😂. At least now I know what to do when stuff like this happens..😅
Thumbs up for helping the owner with storage and transportation. Probably made his trip back to Sweden 100 times less stressful.
Damn you always make me smile! Thank you Misha 🙏
Миша не стоит заморачиваться на ремонте. Машина дрова. Если только ты не найдёшь хороших спонсоров.
Achievement unlocked I blew up a swedish tank
THIS
So good to see something old school rip on the ring
I definitely think it deserves a new engine and another lap on the ring
I think to engine failed due to high oil temps, thin oil , probably worn crankshaftsbearrings and the G forces in brunchen that possibly left the oil pickup dry made this engine blow up .
Nice lap and very brave!
I love that in most videos, Misha rarely uses the mirrors cost he is going to fast, this one it’s once a second! All cars deserve the chance to be driven like this :)
Awesome start to the lap… you can hear the big ends knocking at the start of you’re lap so it’s not you’re fault 👍🏼
Thanks for the Volvo content. The legendary mark is supposed to last forever but under the heel and toe of Misha... Where do members of the Volvo Club Canada send support to this and other campaigners you bust ?
Just sounded like a typical rod bearing failure after those 267 thousand kms - it could happen to any motor :) What's more impressive is that when it created the inspection window in the block, it didn't drop any fluids on the track! Wonder if that was an intentional piece of engine bay design from good ol' Volvo? :P
I have such a soft spot for 240 GLs! It was my first car and I loved it until it threw a rod after some **spirited** driving. I cant wait until the restomod community really get their hands on them and blows us all away! Good on you Misha for helping this guy out.
These have terrible oilpan for sporty drive... Low oil pressures and rod thru block.
That was an epic send off for that Volvo. It may have only lasted 9 mins but what a 9 minutes. I was hoping you were going to buy it and turn it into a track sleeper.
Thats the chance you take with a car when your running them on a track. Stuff happens. Sorry for the bad luck. But it was a good video regardless
I feel bad for the owner. But indeed, anything you did, the car should have been able to handle.
Good solution from you to offer the engine swap
Amazing lap!! Its so much fun to watch ❤
As a fellow 240 owner that also have a B230FK engine it makes me happy to see this, makes me smile alot :)
Sad it broke down but hey, old car issue 😅
If the owner cant find an engine i might sell mine 😮😎
Youre such a nice guy. Helping youre followers out this was not youre fault at all, but you still want to help him so sweet. Now for the fun very impressive you blew up a volvo xd
Love this video. You respected that car so much driving it around. And the. You have give him great advice about the car which to me makes perfect sense. Thanks for the amazing video 💙🙏🏼✌🏼
It went in style, at the Nurburgring, other Volvos be jealous.
Also Slavuta!!😍
I thought the sound was the fender touching the tire wall but that must have been a rod knock from the get go. Bad bearing maybe since the sound kinda followed the body roll 😂Hilarious
Haha I thought exactly the same - that noise COULD be a fender or smt, but then I saw that it depended on the revs and I was like “ok, that is the matter of time, I wonder whether he will notice that”. Turns out he didn’t 😂 but it lasted for quite a while, so that’s something
that rattle in most of the video is actually the a/c heater fan motor... it sits in the center console, and on older 240s they start making that noise, especially when turning corners... and it's a real PITA to change out - with some careful cutting, you can get it done in about 4 hours. Volvo pays 12 hours in tech manual to change it. It's like the entire dash is built around it. The first actual knock I heard was just as they were coming into/around Carousel, and it was different by just a tone downward.
I should state, I've owned 17 Volvos, and broken 3 motors ( all redblocks, each with over 200,000 miles on them, one with over 450,000 miles on it... and it rattled for a LONG time, albeit not pushing redline for 10 miles) so I know what they sound like when coming apart.
@@CaptainSeamus Interesting, Thats crazy hours for just a fan motor 😂
Like I've said before, aside from the driving aspect, there isn't anyone doing what Misha does with such honesty and integrity.
Misha being Misha top man for helping him 👍 just did my first ring trip from uk last week ! Hoped to see you at apex but no bueno ! Maybe next time , been a long time viewer all them videos really did help me 4 laps done and dusted 🫡 can’t wait to come back for more 🤘
Wow, this is wild. A stock Volvo red block blowing up is RARE. Even when it's a swap. My car has the NA version of this engine, the B230F, and it's as happy as could be at over 440.000 km. Over 1 million km isn't unusual for these engines at all. It must have spun a bearing or worse judging from the sound.
yep the redblocks are bulletproof most of the time, but on a track like this without an oilcooler it wasnt going to last long with any kind of serious beating.
i have severely overheated mine once getting the gauge to the red part without breaking the gasket or warping the head, true miracle ;))
@@stridsvagn1039 Oh right and the turbo won't help oil temps either. Yeah that might be the culprit.
Mine never goes above halfway on the gauge, but I don't have an oil temp gauge and I never took it to the race track either.
Recently learned about Red Block Volvos and when this video popped up I was like "No way!"..
Takes a legend to break a legend I guess - they need to resurrect that car and keep the stories going, I believe it'll be possible and quite awesome.
Love the engine compartment light😝
Recently learned about Red Block Volvos and when this video popped up I was like "No way!".. hoped there would be one mention of it, lol
Takes a legend to break a legend I guess - they need to resurrect that car and keep the stories going, I believe it'll be possible and quite awesome.
Love the engine compartment light😝
I killed my 245 in the same way. Rod through the block. Nice work!
My wife and i are planning a trip to Europe in the next yr or so. Was thinking about shipping one of our cars over. Not for certain yet. If we do it will be our 2005 e46 330i zhp 6 speed. It would be a honor to have you (misha) thrash it around the nurburgring.
Live the videos dude, keep smashing them laps out for us to enjoy 🔥🔥🔥
Misha you Sir are a good man. You didnot have to pay for any monetary charges due to he allow you to drive his car. I would not expect you to pay anything if something brake on my car. Kudos to a really good man and keep doing an excellent job at the Green Hell!
The one time my favourite car is on the channel and it's in my favourite colour too it blows the engine despite being virtually bulletproof. Wth, I feel robbed :D
Since 1977, my family only drives Volvo. I currently own a 960. Especially the 240 has a special place for me, because when I was born, we had 3 240s in our house.
Misha, I hope you can do an update of this when the engine arrives. Also why LS swap it? Rotary swap it instead... be different! 👍
Just imagine a rotary engine with a variomatic transmission. That would be a pretty interesting combination. 👍
At least it saw 200km/h before it died. Great job Misha.
Maybe a newer Volvo 5 cylinder turbo engine could be swapped into it
I know Misha is kidding about the LS-swap, but it is fairly easy to put a Chevy smallblock in the 240.
Misha, you're such a nice guy for doing this. Real credit to you.
Very few would help out in this way. :-)
Wow. Iv seen these engines take bigger power and still be bomb proof 😢. But it’s just one of those things. Hope it gets back on the road
Very kind of you Misha, it's not your fault. if one chooses to let them run a lap with you, they accept it gets pushed. So doing that for him is very kind. :)
You're a good dude, Misha.
You could hear the rodbearings cry allready in the beginning of the video. That b230 was doomed allready before entering the ring. RIP.
Wow that's impressive to blow one of those up, seems to hold for anything
There used to be a company called Steffansson Automotive that had all the parts to turn your 1981 to 1984 Volvo 242 Turbo into the 1983 Group-A DTM homologation version. The firewall braces on this car were available from Volvo as were the bottom supports. Ipd, a Volvo Tuner from Portland, OR (USA) had a cross tower brace and sway bars. The rear end is a Dana 44 that could easily accept a Quaiffe or LSD. The best engine is the B23FT from the 740. My old 242 Turbo would have done much better on the ring, but it was sold years ago.
Get a price for the repair/swap and set up a go fund for that amount...I'm sure a few will chip in
As a swedish person it’s really fun to se you drive an old Volvo around the ring! Love your video. Keep it up man
Long before the engine exploded, it was heard in every turn that there was not enough lubrication, flying bearings were heard. I think the oil was very low and the oil pump was drawing air at times.
😭😭😭
A lot of the rattling sound earlier in the lap before it blew up is the fan for the ventilation in the car, which is why the owner first thought it was just the fan when they heard the rod knock. The fans in these old Volvos tend to touch the housing they're inside and make some really terrible sounds, especially when going over bumps. You can hear that the noise isn't consistent with engine RPM.
Михаил Вы просто крейзи, я ездил на таком но на автодромее это нечто новое!! КЛАСС!!!
Теперь у этой Вольвы будет новая жизнь)
Hat off to you for being such a gentleman.
The young owner will defenetely have a story to tell his grandchildren.
As far as the drive went before the incident............EPIC!
helvete fan också! :)
Ah, this brings back memories..........
It was the weekend of "Live Aid" in 1985 and we were ready to drive to Benidorm in Spain
( from Bergen ) in an 1977 Ford Taunus 2.0L. Due to one of the guys working late the plan
was to start driving at 23.00 Friday night and go non stop.
We got about 7 km when the engine developed an knocking noise, so we turned around and
limped to my workshop. We tore the head off the engine and found that cylinder 3 was missing
a large piece of the piston, so a new engine was needed.
Next morning we called all the local breakers yards to try to find a Ford 2.0 SOHC engine
but no one had any in, what to do.
Called everyone again, did they have an 1.6L SOHC engine in ?
One breakers yard had one that he did not know the mileage or condition of so we told him
"sold", we are coming to pick it up. While 2 of the guys went to pick it up, me and a friend
tore the engine out of the car.
They came back with an engine severely rusted on the outside and told us that it was
lying on the ground outside of the breakers shed!
Anyway, we got the engine in and connected and tried to start it. It barely cranked over
but after some attempts it turned over easier and eventually started, success!
We repacked the car and left at about 21.00 Saturday evening.
The engine was not good as shown when is started boiling after 5 km, so we got some
water from a small river and refilled the cooling system. We decided to turn around, not
to give up, but to grab some plastic containers for water as we might need them for the
2900 km journey ( one way ). We also packed some more tools......
Long story short, we "boiled" our way to Spain. It got better as the rust and the gunk got
boiled out of the coolant system.
When we were in Benidorm, we found a Ford dealer and managed to order a new water
pump and thermostat and swapped the parts in the Ford dealers parking lot.
It cured the problem as the car only boiled twice on the return leg from Benidorm.
I can safely say it was the most fun road trip/vacation I have ever had........
Holy shit that's amazing! Thnx for sharing it with us!
It’s none of you guys fault, shit happens sometimes bro. I wish the best luck to this Swede guy, hope he can manage to bring his engine in one piece again or swap it.
hopefully the owner will put the oilcooler back on and stop using the cheap oilfilters, then the engine would be more track suited.
Im sure that is what the car wanted instead of being alone and stuck under some leaves and left to rot to die. And ones the engine is replaced will be able to continue to make memories for him and the owner, simply this car just got interesting and is basically laying down its own story for everyone to see, love it! and another take away from this video is your nobility "Im not responsible but i feel involved" that will resonate to a lot of young and old viewers and hope will teach them a thing or two that it does not have to be your fault or be accountable to be able to decide if your going to help a fellow human being. Props to your parents for raising Misha!
If this guy wants to play with the car i can sell him engine out of the newer Volvo v70 b5254t 2.4t he would have to find a way to rotate the engine because it's tranverse mount and he would need some gearbox adapter
❤️❤️❤️ A Volvo 244DL 1979, was my first car, and I wrecked the engine at 150kmh near Liege in Belgium in 1997 or so. What a car, the Schwedenpanzer ❤️❤️❤️
Misha i hope you filmed that Alfa 155 on the ring too.
great track trip! even with this story! nice to see your assistance in such a situation! deserves great respect!
So funny hearing the swedish comments😂