LGR Oddware - Essential Reality P5 Glove
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2019
- In 2002, Essential Reality released the $150 P5 glove controller to the market. A so-called "3D virtual controller," it detects hand motions, finger movements, and gripping, translating them to mouse inputs! In theory.
● LGR links:
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● Grab the P5 Driver CD-ROM archive here:
archive.org/details/p5drivers
● Links to the videos shown towards the end:
• P5 Data Glove! Unboxin...
• P5 Powerglove and G2X
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As for how Black & White plays with the P5 glove, check out my retrospective here!
th-cam.com/video/qelivOEUZfY/w-d-xo.html
And to those asking if my lights interfere with the receiver, the answer is "not that I can tell." It's just _that_ finicky to use.
I had problems in the past when I used CFLs, but all of my lights are LEDs now and they don't interfere with the other infrared devices I have. Even my wonky 1980s PCjr infrared keyboards function perfectly under the same lighting used in this video!
To be sure, I also tried the P5 without any of lights on at all, just the glow of the CRT, and results were unchanged. My experience is echoed by old user reviews I've read, too. It is quite simply... odd.
You don't need any helping hand to make that game more jank...
Thanks for the video. How was it compared to something like the "Powerglove" or other oddware junk like that? :3
I remember playing Black and White with it, then getting super disillusioned by it.
"Oooooooooh we're not keen on sinkin' so we're doin us a little thinkin"
Peter Molyneux would probably say "IT PLAYS FANTASTIC"
Essential Reality: "Tired of using a mouse for gaming?"
Gamers: "No, not really."
This is a classic example of what I like to call "a solution looking for a problem."
Well-said.
Yep. It's a classic mistake poor salesmen always make. They have a product and go looking for an audience instead of finding out what the audience actually wants first. You find the market need first, then you deliver a product that fulfills that need. Because that's what people want to buy.
"Oh, but I have a super high tech product that the market doesn't know it even wants yet!"
lol ok
@@notlNSIGHT Yeah or Netflix. Imagine people wanting to stream stuff from internet.
No one:
Essential Reality: INTRODUCING PEE FIVE
@@sh-bf7bv Salty that Stadia has been a massive failure so far?
Man that mid-2000s blue “tech-y” plastic. Ah good memories
I want a room that just constantly smells like opening up new computer accessories at all times.
Indigo?
and the curves, everything had to had a silver plastic curve detail
like a Logitech computer game controller
@@SalveMonesvol Techno-blurple.
"The middle finger opens doors."
In New York City, maybe lol
just to add to this humor with something funny but real, that's not true unless your not from NYC and they will know. If you are from NYC they tend to be a bit more polite, but in general yeah they got some serious "relationship" issues with people. (i have encountered this first hand, i'm from the south and it took me years to get used to how "problems" are solved up here. Usually it starts with lots of shouting and posturing and then at some point a solution is agreed upon and everyone goes off to do their "thing". Down south their, well their used to be, rules for how to interact with others. Up here in NY not so much)
Totally off topic, but great avatar pic! 👍😉
"Ehhhhhhhhh! Fuck yaselves, door!" *door reluctantly opens*
David Miller currently living in the south and, uh, things seem to have devolved since you lived here cause all I hear every day is shouting. Usually some guns too.
@@doubtful_seer I live near a nest of methheads myself. God bless Tennessee.
I'm curious as to how well this works for Surgeon Simulator.
Would this even support a PC that would run it?
@@polyphonydigital "Any Windows version which supports USB (Windows 95b or greater) should support the Essential Reality P5 Glove. You don't need the amount of hard drive space specified on the box or on the website, a couple of megabytes is enough for the driver if you download it.
"
scratchpad.fandom.com/wiki/P5_Glove:Windows
I guess it's only a matter of time until the idea is suitable coded for Windows XP/7/10 ^^
100%
(Patient dies ALL the time)
@@jimmyspliff88 well now if someone hasn't done that, I kinda want to. Mostly for the laughs
No you're not, you know exactly how well it would work. Very badly. Gore explosion.
This looks like a suitable prop for a low budget 80s cyberpunk tv show.
Johnny Mnemonic
This would've been perfect for that movie 'hackers'.
I like how he keeps going straight to the mouse while wearing the P5. That pretty much sums up everything right there.
"yeah, peaple are definetly tired of having their hand comfortably resting on a desk, let's make them hold their hand in the air, like they're a spell casting wizard"
White Obama has spoken.
Why Fable: The Journey failed so terribly.
You had me at "On the other hand, you've gotta hand it to them, puns are hands down one of the handiest ways to get a grip on product marketing without using underhanded business tactics, so I give it two thumbs up."
I can't imagine holding your arm out like Frankenstein's monster for any length of time could be comfortable.
I think you are supposed to rest your arm and pivot your wrist instead
The Nintendo Wii taught us that lesson.
Darth Vader training.
Tell that to Frankenstein's monster, he managed to do it a whole movie long.
Cursor movement should either be a combination of tilting and moving your hand like a wiimote or emulating using an invisible mouse. A tutorial should have you visualize a laser firing from the top back of your hand with a 3D representation and have you complete a 2D maze with it where you'd fail if you try and use a 1:1 hand movement to screen style of movement.
1:56 I have to hand it to you, that quick succession of puns was many digits above other TH-camrs!
Idk I think the joke got out of hand a little
what a pointed and gripping handling from the pun master 😖
I could point out a few more. I know puns like the back of my hand.
we should admit it is a handy subject for puns.
I'm pun overloaded!!! The quick succession of jokes made me dizzy, someone give him a hand!
Early 2000's Gamer: "If only there was some way to make playing all my favorite games excruciatingly uncomfortable".
Essential Reality: "Say no more".
"Look sharp, boys, this is our moment to shine!"
I just wanted to say one thing about that mine drive episode there actually is a significant amount of research into controlling things by thinking I think there's even some functional peripherals out there maybe you could check it out
@@azraelle6232 "Finally! Time to get rid of all this backstock!"
All VR controllers replaced with this
It all stems from the "x-treme" ethic of the early 2000s
Those “graphical glitches” are known as vertex explosions. They happen when gpus receive unsupported api calls or the game has some bad math
Or bad VRAM.
To go a bit further into detail here, those are known as floating point precision errors as all vector graphics in video games cannot have polygonal meshes positioned 1:1 in 3d space. So to get around this the 3d software is assigned a floating point value (say from .1 to 1 to give an example.) Within this floating point range the polygons are allowed to sort of "snap" in 3d space. This is exactly why a lot of ps1 games back in the day had the infamous polygonal warbles. (Which is freaking awesome and I was so glad to have recently been able to recreate these effects myself in hlsl shaders.) :D
I had this happen once when I upgraded GPUs and my power supply couldn't supply enough current. Took me FOREVER to figure out what was going on! I thought my GPU was defective!
@@mrburns366 similar story- everything started going crazy while playing far cry 3 on my relatively new gtx 670 ( the ground closed in around me) was terrified that my GPU was dying...untill I found one of the two pcie had worked it's way loose.
Damn that card was thirsty, weird considering it supposedly had a 170w tdp, and that combo should be able to provide 225
Or corrupted game
1:55 I didn't think it was possible to have so many puns in a single sentence.
You must be new here
I bet lgr wasnt even trying, it just came up naturally
When an LGR Oddware video starts with “I’m pretty sure there’s something wrong”, you KNOW it’s going to be good.
Facts
The power glove: who are you?
P5 glove: im you but worse
its. better tbh
Impulse Neuro-Controller is then god for anything else
1:56 The puns really got out of hand there.
You gotta hand it to him.
@@augustagajoshestep that's enough
J E he handled those puns well
@@patcollins4023 What a backhanded compliment
I bet he practiced those jokes until he knew them like the back of...nevermind.
Why do I suddenly want to see a picture someone wearing two of these on their hands and a virtual boy strapped to their face
Yep back in the day we did wear them on both hands at once.
We even tried wearing them *on our feet* to play DDR & emulate walking in games. I'm not joking.
I have to make the obligatory "It's so bad" joke from The Wizard so imagine I put it here.
Damn it, I was gonna make that joke!
That was my first thought when I saw it.
"He was serious." ~Brentalfloss
“Cal-i-forniiia.”
There's already one up there i saw it!
1:21 The P5 glove is a right-hand glove.
The box silhouette/outline shows a left hand.
That's a real sign of quality, right there!
I think we can get better motion controls with a wiimote and a bluetooth adapter.
I love how you don't just show the device, and how it works. I appreciate how you research the history of the company that made it, the device, etc. It's going the extra mile and is really interesting!!
Also I don't understand the company name - Essential Reality. Wouldn't it be fair to say that ALL reality is, uh, essential? lol
No. So much non essential crap , my life is mostly behind me, and it was mostly pointless minutia
02:06 Linus was really immersed in that experience
Hahaha,he really does look like Linus
I was going to say did anyone notice that the guy on the box looks like linus lol
You never know it might be linus 🤣🤣🤣
This is what I was looking for down here.
Oh god it is, haha.
left handed people: "I guess i'll just die"
lefties were saved from wasting their money on this hunk of shit
With something like this, i doubt it matters what hand you use. You'll still chafe.
Left handed people: "guess I'll live"
lefties : am i a joke to you
I mean he did say it was planned to have a left handed version so I don't see your point.
Man, I cant get over your Duke voice. It is so darn good it makes me laugh.
'just rubbed the skin right off of there' - lgr 2019
Always painful when that happens.
"left, right, up, down, and Z"
i know the z axis is a Thing but the phrasing there is amusing
The words "forward" and "back" were invented in the year 2014, in the Mandellah universe that thing fell out of.
The Z option is important. Gotta take naps.
Come on! Cartesian Coordinates are way too fancy and space-age for boring, old mouse-style movements!
True Facts™: The Curious Case of Carl Cartesian's Coordination Concerns was originally released by the French software company, Renésoft on the Amstrad Algeo 1600, as part of their "Plane Value" bundle. When Renésoft saw how popular Carl Cartesian had become, they released a free/shareware holiday add-on. This is where the the new side-character, Z'ackxis, was introduced.
Hey take a right continue for a mile then go z
When they said zee rather than zed threw me for a moment. I had to think about it and then I realised what they meant
Vintage Tech and smooth Jazz in the background.
I love this channel.
OMG !! You left a link to the SOFTWARE !!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!
Just got on these myself, and was looking for the "cd"..
Much love, very wow. many usefull.
I wonder if an improved version of this could actually become popular today with oculus rift, vr, etc
The knuckles controllers that come with the valve index are sort of a spiritual successor, though with much better execution.
I wanna see somebody Speedrun Dark Souls with this.
Can you Beat Dark Souls with the P5 Glove?
I would try it if I had DS .
@@redzeppelin6 Someone beat it with a guitar hero controller so I would assume so
Ben his name is lobosjr on TH-cam and he has done basically every thing you can think of to beat every souls title there is.
I hate knowing someone probably can
"I love the P5 Glove, it s so bad."
13:25. We all know you started laughing because you almost said "It's a game where you grab balls."
Man, I really just want to say this: I love your work. You are awesome.
13:58 It looks like some kind of online DRM for which the servers no longer exist.
Didn't work when I had one in '04 either.
I like how they say that mice and joysticks are too confining, so they decided to create a controller that literally confines your hand.
I never cease to be amazed how every time someone invents something to replace a mouse, it fails hard. I've been doing 3D design using PC for over 25 years now and I've never once found any device that works better for this than a good quality mouse/keyboard combo.
Interesting device, and the sort of thing that'd be fun to show off to your mates, but like all these sort of products, it's definitely no substitute for the real thing
i've had success with the spacemouse and the Blender XR plugin when it comes to sculpting
Clint's "you know what would be better? Just using the mouse" is still very relevant :D
@14:45 "Shoot missiles with your middle finger"
AVGN would love this device.
Everyone of these oddwares always has me asking, "What about Duke Nukem 3D?" and I am never left to wonder.
worked for Essential Reality back in 2000 as a lead electronics developer. The investors wanted to make a revamp of the very successful Nintendo Power Glove. (To answer many asking the "why make this product" question) Its easy to criticize it 20 years later but at the time it seemed the next logical step to enable VR and the predicted sales figures seemed viable. There were some great ideas and some flaws. Id say we rushed to market without enough gamer feedback but one counter arguement was that VR gamers are not the same breed (nor did they really exist yet!). One idea was to make it still possible to use the mouse. And also you can use it by putting your palm flat on the desktop (i.e. nobody told you you HAD to lift your arm in the air for hours you could still use it as a mouse) Remember also that this glove predates the Wii console by about 5 years. The exoskeleton design kept your hand from getting sweaty and had customizable finger rings (i.e remove and replace with included rings to fit most hands)
As an avid VR gamer (in the post HTC / SteamVR era of VR), I can really respect how ambitious this product was but given how expensive hand tracking solutions are with today's technology, it was definitely still way too ahead off the curve.
Love your oddware series...simply brilliant.
I love the Essential Reality P5 Glove
it's so bad
Damn you beat me to it.
"He was serious." ~Brentalfloss
I feel bad for all the kids who saved their money to get one of these or the parents who spent $150 bucks for this piece of crap, the company knew that this thing was useless but they still took everyone's money. I would have put this thing on and gone down to their offices and punched the developers in the face with it.
@@BILLY-px3hw Hey, it's not for kids! Hardcore gamers only.
@@BILLY-px3hw at least they got Hitman 2
21:33 "This really pisses me off"
Even Duke agrees.
I was searching for videos about this glove not so long ago as I was very impressed by it when it was released,
I remember seeing it on the shelf at the local computer store when i was a 16 y/o teenager but i couldn't afford it so I've always wondered if it was cool as i thought it'd be.
I was quite surprised and a bit sad you didn't review it yet since your videos are so fun to watch so I'm glad u finally made this video! Thank U!
1:51 "On the other hand, you gotta hand it to them puns are hands down one of the handiest way to get a grip on product marketing without using under-handing business tactics, so I give it two thumbs up." - LGR, you really are the Pun Master. Just wow
Oddware is what me start watching LGR consistently, so I'm always excited when it shows up again.
17:00 i think you're supposed to hold your hand like you're gripping a gun, so your "i'm holding a mouse" pose is detected as "go left"
I agree, I see only a few LEDs on top and with only 1 receptor it will only be able to tell where your hand is from 1 perspective
omg I had this thing! So psyched to get it for christmas... then tried to use it for a couple days and never touched it again. Sadness. Keep the nostalgia coming my friend. thumbs up and sub.
It's like nobody learned anything from the power glove.
Well can't learn when it was forgotten. That's the sad part for many new and old businesses these days.
@Lassi Kinnunen And holding your controllers hours on end any different?
@@Deliveredmean42 They're actually comfortable to hold.
@@Feraligono Same concept, different ergonomics. Well, not the P5, but other motion controllers that do.
Come on, you telling me we shouldn't try old ideas again ever just because they failed once in the past? Sometimes people try ideas way ahead of due time and that's why they fail. Honestly I don't think the concept of a virtual glove will ever work no matter how well executed it is, but I certainly don't want them to stop trying just because it didn't work a couple of times in the past.
God. Early 2000’s design was a garden of eyesores.
/music plays
A E S T H E T I C
I actually like the design. It just doesn't work.
I'll take early 2000's quirky over late 2000's white. Every ds lite looks filthy now.
Besides Hitman 2!
Yeah because post-Iphone shiny-black everything was a more inspired design.
When i was a kid my mum bought me a one handed playstation controller that had a ball on it for an analog and surprisingly worked quite well..... Felt a bit bad when i mentioned it to a friend recently who said well it was obv made for amputees, still was a cool piece of retro hardware
Sounds like one of the Spacetech PlayStation controllers he mentions in his ball controller oddware video
Don't worry, it was not designed for amputees specifically. Just for kicking back and playing slower paced games one handed if you wanted to or if you wanted to use your other hand for things like smoking or eating. I know of people who liked holding their child on their lap and playing a game with the other hand so there are many use cases for playing games one handed, particularly slower RPG type games.
Awesome video as always Clint! Thanks!
"...but it all fizzled out. However on LGR....we're just getting started!"
:D
Candy Angel is there somewhere I can follow your development?
the P5's greatest achievement, being on LGR oddware
I was really starting to feel meh about my Index and this made me appreciate it a lot more.
I saw a P5 receptor without the glove at a Goodwill a couple of years ago. I never figured out what it was.
1:52-2:04
Jesus. That was an utter barrage, but I have to admit:
He *handled* it well.
Your profile name take me back, " you shouldnt cun here"
@@Moostar95 "i cant give you my license officer"
"why not"
"BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB ZOMBIE"
*Draws the worst preschooler version of the LGR logo ever seen* "yeahhh, perfect!"
Yeah, that perfect got me really good! xD
I remember wanting one of these things as a teenager... I'm so glad I never did get one.
Not only do enjoy the vintage hardware, but you're bloody funny too. Great as always.
I get a weird feeling you're too proud of the 6 hand puns in 10 seconds
Dads everywhere cried in awe and admiration
"You'll never see it comiiinnngg,
You'll see, that my mouse is too fast for eyes." - P5
... is that Persona 5 quote a JoJo refrance?
@@NimhLabs Its not a jojo reference, its a *joker* reference
Boo bad joke body hurts
Love your videos man keep up the good work!
That string of hand-puns around the 2 minute mark was masterful. Poetic even. Deserving of a big hand.
"Played it to completion"
- LGR, 2019
Linas81
Thank you for your contribution
A shovel: for the hardcore gourmets who find a spoon too confining.
Also, I'm pretty sure that a game called "Serious Sam II: The Second Encounter" doesn't exist.
To be fair, many modern "harcore" PC gamers insist on having everything plastered with RGB lights. So this device (and shovels) just needed some RGB lights plastered on them in order to be hardcore enough. That and the "gaming devices" trend wasn't really a thing back in the early 2000s, so companies thought that "hardcore people" needed MindDrive/3d CyberShades-tier gadgets in order to be "H4X0r L337" at games, like in the 90s.
Actually the second encounter does exist.
VaterOrlaag serious sam 2 is the shit
@@NoStereo Second Encounter is a different game than Serious Sam 2, I don't know why the naming works like that, but it does.
That video 9:47 is the most early 2000's thing I've seen in a while lol
I had one of these when I was in my early teens, worked pretty well for the game Black & White. It worked ...okay but I remember it having a pretty difficult learning curve with all the gestures and such.
The PC power glove! Even in the early 2000s, they were still trying to use the same technology from 1980s!
Well the 1980s were the peak of humanity
@@tortron Yeah, mullet, anyone?
As if the mouse (around the fifties or sixties) or the keyboard (QWERTY alignment whose origin dates from the typewriters of the late 19th century) were recent technology.
@Nolberto Roa Pulido it’s more like based on patented technology, the QWERTY layout isn’t patented.
I'm pretty sure the Glove showed up in a softcore cyber-themed porn from the early '00s.
The P5 VR Grope Mitten
thought I saw something like it in Blade ][
"How am I doing? I can't control anything, sir..." - Clint Basinger 2019
The intro pun statement was legendary. Wish I could subscribe twice.
Gawd, I can literally feel the frustration of using the P5 just watching you struggling with it.
im getting frustrated just watching this thing being operated xD
I want to break it. I really do.
I met you in the parking lot in Chicago when you had this. I didn't know whether to congratulate you or give you my condolences =)
I have waited for a review from you on this LGR, I bought mine from a Zellers back in 2003 for 10 dollars (Canada's version of target)
That string of hand puns was Shakespearean.
Can't wait for the new any% Essential Reality P5 Glove speedruns
The hand pun word riff was off the chart! I really did laugh out loud. Thank you! 😅😅👍
- Oh, I see you have blood knuckles, are you a fighter?
- Nah, I just click a lot.
"They couldn't avoid that hand pun"
LGR "Gotta hand it to them". Lmao
Here's a thumbs up for that comment
LGR really just spit out like 20 off the top of his head at lightning pace. Holy crap that just destroyed my head.
@@__X__. Um, yeah. He writes a script.
20:56: that out of nowhere Duke impression was all that i wanted
I always forget how hilarious this channel is after not watching it for a while
My whole entire week: MADE
I was at an exhibition a few years back and there were some guys who had built something like this to work with HTC Vive and Oculus rift. The Demo software they had showed it was still a little rough around the edges but in contrast to this it actually worked. You could use it to actually pick up things in VR and they told me they wanted to put a system in where you could actually feel when you were grabbing something. I wonder how that turned out.
A few different people have been working on stuff like this. The super high-end research stuff is pretty good and has force feedback, but I don't think anyone has successfully brought out a consumer product. Almost all of the ones I've seen still use the old Vive trackers.
My arm felt tired just watching this 😂 Another great Oddware ep!
Hey
This was the closest we got to the gloves Keanu Reeves wore in Johnny Mnemonic and I'm glad I didn't get one
LGR makes even the worst stuff interesting. This channel is just brilliant. Keep up the amazing work, man.
i had one of these back in the day *ebay purchase(. that demo ball catcher game gave me some real nostalgic feels. Thanks for this video!!
The puns in this video were handsomely done.
"I am LGR of Borg. Prepare to be assimilated! No, go DOWN!". I think we're safe. ;)
"Here's something else it comes with that doesn't work" 🤣🤣🤣
My shoulder is screaming just watching *you* use that! :)
“We’re off to A great start”
And *LGR* intro plays.
✌🏻😇 nice.
I misread the title as “Existential” Reality P5 Glove. Yeah, I’m living in an existential reality right now.
That was the best run-on pun sentence ever. You've won an internet.
You know, with VR headsets coming out about a decade later, a modernized version of something like this (a version that "works" for example) could actually have a market. (PS: to get the sensor further from the glove, with your other hand closer to the KB... move the sensor back??????)
"I think (...) middle finger opens doors. Sure it does."
- LGR, 2019
I kind of refuse to believe you weren't the original Duke Nukem voice actor sometimes
I gotta hand it to you, this vid was interesting
I've gotta hand it to you. You've really got a grip on those puns. You really fingered those puns quite well.
You got a like from me simply for the hand puns, that was pretty impressive