imagine being in 1999, when most of us had only one computer shared by the whole family: you buy this thing, bring it home, install the driver and screw up the operating system 😂😂😂
The farting is a cool feature of windows input event routing system. If no process anywhere is servicing the mouse and keyboard event queue, then when it reaches a full queue, it emits one fart for each keyboard or mouse event that was discarded.
I feel oddly fulfilled knowing this. I had alot of fart scenarios back in the day trying to use different cheap USB controllers to play Unreal tournament. Then the freeze and fart would happen.. Always had to unplug the web cam, the 2 never played nice. I always thought that I was just crashing something trying to jump between unreal tournament and icq while using Napster.. allegedly..
Watching you beat a mutant Cliff-sumo baby with a tripod stand is legitimately one of the funniest things I've seen in a while (and a sentence I don't know has ever been said before).
5:56 - Super-badass to have an interactive 360 image from ANY year in the 1990’s. Thank you, LGR, for always thoroughly researching every aspect of the topics on which you speak.
@@gordo965 Thank you, yes. In this instance, Clint appears to be using his mouse to navigate an interactive Quicktime VR image, and that technology was available starting in the mid-90's. I'm guessing the originating camera utilized a hemispherical-mirror type adapter, so as to record as much of the environment as possible in a single image.
Need For Speed games (specifically III and High Stakes, can't remember if Porsche had it) allowed you to view 360 degree pictures of the interiors of the various available cars.
Thank you! I had this in the early 2000's! Eventually Logitech added it to all of their webcams. My nephews grew up with this. I eventually just used a pencil to fight in the karate game. We named him Mr. Pencil. We drew a mustache on him. Thanks once again for showing this because no one ever knows what I'm talking about when I mention this.
I love how the second you pick up the tripod to start swinging it, you nearly blast the table with it. I'm surprised the tripod, the table, and the ceiling fan made it out of this episode alive, lol.
Frankly, it didn't look worse then what I often see during video conferences at my work... laptop cams didn't make too much progress in past 20 years - or at least this is what manufacturers sell to us.
Well hey, I’m glad to hear and thank you for the comment! The tech is still impressive considering the hardware it’s using, it really seemed like the future back then.
@@LGR Fun fact: Barry's grandfather Percy Spencer invented the microwave oven. Other Fun fact: Reggie Miller played the Reality Fusion basketball game on an episode of the Donny & Marie Osmond show.
No one ever believes me when i tell them i used to have online classes with my teacher and classmates in the early 2000's that were practically identical to today's zoom classes, we even had music class where everyone would play their recorders all at once over the mic. I think the online class program was called Centra and was done over satellite internet on an old IBM and CRT. I grew up on a remote cattle station in Australia so i went to KSOTA (Kimberley School of The Air) so all learning was done remotely, for my first couple of years of school we had classes (including music class) over a shortwave ham radio. Edit: I should clarify that we weren't doing video call classes until about 2007 or 2008, when i said identical to zoom i meant in the online class and learning aspect.
There were a software solutions as early as the early 90s, I'm thinking of the program CU-SeeMe that was usable over modem. You connected to a "reflector"-server that delivered the streams from the other participants. Earlier very capable ISDN video conferencing were available.
@@kanalnamn Yeah you could stream yourself and watch 2 other people with a good 56k connection. The video wasn't smooth but good for what it was. And this was using a black and white Quickcam on the parallel port.
Found the a video of the Centra software being demonstrated if anyone's interested at what it looked like th-cam.com/video/2E2ymOUcyAE/w-d-xo.html I reckon this would have been way better than zoom calls during the pandemic, you can actually do more than just slideshows.
That's impressive. I'm also regional and all we had was conference phones and a shared whiteboard system that let the teachers and students draw and type on a shared screen. That was late 2000's.
Oh, man, thanks for the laughs! The blue screens of death, mouse farts and playing around with the camera itself put me in stitches. This is truly a fun piece of oddware. You definitely need to make a weird music video with the trippy effects at the end, some "fresh oats" sound effects thrown in there, Duke Nukem lines and that sequence where you were beating the sumo baby that had your face with a tripod. Guaranteed to be one of the top hits at the summer music festivals. PS. That sumo baby is straight nightmare fuel, I swear! But for some reason, you just can't look away from it.
As someone studying and wanting to get deeper into the action recognition area of computer vision and artificial intelligence, its still absolutely nuts to me to see a piece of consumer software and equipment almost as old as i am thats capable of doing that much!
I hear you, I was a few years back amazed how much you can today do in literally minutes with stuff like OpenCV. I really appreciate how much wizardry had to go into building something like this in the 90s from scratch.
This is so damn 90s! The colors, the interface, everything! "Surprise" was probably nothing more than a randomizer putting you in some context. From a perspective as software-dev, this is probably as far as you can get with USB 1.1 (still astonished about the frame rate) and a PC of that time. No AI/ML there yet to distinguish you from the background, let alone processing power. I would have probably been able to get near these results a few years later, and wish I could have been part of this!
This was hilarious. Fascinating forerunner of today's video filters and effects we take for granted on TikTok etc. What would Freud have said about Clint using a camera tripod to attack his adultbaby-self LMAO
"Move chairs and breakable objects AWAY from your computer!" Discounting the fact that the computer is _also_ a breakable object (especially when someone is swinging a tripod).
I never in my life would I have imagined I would see Clint from LGR beat up a sumo baby that has his likeness with a closed tripod. This episode certainly delivered!!
I've always wanted one as a kid, but realizing later as a teen it's basically a web cam with very simple games lol. See them in Thrift stores and retro game stores all the time, I wonder why? 😂😂😂
What surprises me more is the fact that in the 90's the tech for eliminate the background from a webcam footage without any extra software and hardware already existed and I though it was something that came in the last couple of years, pretty cool indeed.
I remember a field trip in the probably mid to late 90's to Discovery Place in Charlotte, NC where they had a beach ball volleyball thing like this. It was a 2 player game projected in full size on the wall so you were actually "hitting the ball" in "real life". It must have been pretty early tech as it didn't work nearly as well as it should of for a public interactive exhibit, but it did keep a bunch of us elementary schoolers occupied for a while.
Oh dang, that may have been where I played Shark Bait! I forgot all about Discovery Place, I only got to visit a couple times since it was a 2 hour drive.
I definitely remember the one at Discovery Place but I swear there was one at either Sci-Works or the Greensboro Science Center with the shark game. I was a regular as a kid at both. Sadly I also lived 2hrs from Charlotte in Lewisville right outside Winston-Salem. The best thing at Discovery Place was the air lift chair! Good times!
You beating the absolute hell out of your sumo baby counterpart with a tripod, has to be the funniest thing I've seen on this channel. thanks for the unexpected laugh 🤣
I remember having an Intel Create and Share camera from the same year with a similar software and game suite. Camera motion games, picture cards, and video web chats. I was really excited to get it as a 12 year old. It felt like the future. Played most of the games once, did one video call (which was post-stamped size and appropriately laggy for 56k dial-up), and I never really used the camera much after a month or two. 😂
IMO webcams-for-kids-entertainment-wise Lego did it the best with their Studios set. Combined with a variety of others it was a lot of fun to do stopmotion and rigged animation. Then WinXP came around and killed off the software compatibility lol
@@danimayb I remember paying like $99.99 for a 1 megapixel camera from CompUSA back in the earliest days of consumer digital cameras. It held 10 photos and they were like photographing through milk lol
Boy, I remember seeing a demo setup at FutureShop for this. I never knew anyone that had this , but I for sure would have played it. I know ME gets a lot of hate, but the driver stability, especially with game controllers and USB stuff is far superior. It's why my ME rig is still going strong. Windows 98 SE was just bluescreen hell when trying to get SLI setup along with gravis gamepad controller. The jankiness and ability to play an psuedo evil you, is actually pretty cool. The fact it plays well enough on not really special hardware is amazing.
I just had one of the worst weeks of my life. Watching your video helped me smile again. LGR always provides a good time and has this uniquely positive vibe. Thank you & Greetings from Germany :)
Really loved this episode Clint, that volleyball scene genuinely had me laughing out loud. Also by the end I could see a few dots of sweat on your shirt, certainly looked like a workout and looked like you had a ton of fun making this episode 😂!
I've always loved Logitech. Solid brand for a good price. I will say, the karate game reminded me a little bit of a game on the Nintendo DSi called Photo Dojo. It came out 10 years after this, but you could take pictures of you or whomever in different poses and record custom sounds for them. Needless to say, hilarity ensued when I made my cats in the game
With modern browsers and pcs, and practically everyone having webcams, this could EASILY be made into a browser game. The janky cutouts and prerecorded move sets, meme faces, this could go so far. I want this to be a thing.
Well, this is a blast of the past! My dad had a Compaq Presario PC running Windows 2000, and it came with a Logitech webcam (different model, but somehow the quality of the image wasn't too far off from what you show in the video). It came with the Reality Fusion Software, same UI and all but oddly it rarely if ever gave me such severe technical issues. I used to play the Volleyball game a lot - creating your own avatar to compete against was as hilarious as shown in this video 😅. It also had the same basketball game, no different whatsoever. It did have one other different game though. Your image could "float" around in a glass cube structure suspended above earth, floating around this cube and bumping off the glass walls like the DVD logo screensaver. You could add bubbles to pop and interact with random objects floating on screen too. I realize after writing this down that it sounds like a fever dream, but for late 1900/early 2000s software it kind of was 😂
You playing volleyball against “yourself” and battling a sumo wrestler with a mask of your face is INSANE and beyond funny! I also remember going to a kids museum on trips when our family would visit my grandma and they also had that blue screen Mandala full body game. I distinctly remember me trying to block as many CGI soccer balls as I could and failing spectacularly 😂 That memory seemed like a fever dream and I was curious if you would mention that game in this video and I got very excited when you did!! I would really love to play that game again!
This was great! That netball was massively hilarious, and that end fractal one with you dividing yourself into pieces and dancing in music videos was funny and awesome! Cheers for this dude!
My dad got me one of these cameras for my 10th birthday! It was a clear-blue one, very thick and promised wonders with its scan technology. We couldn't make it work, no matter what we did. My dad blamed our outdated 98 PC, (it was 2000 tops, lol), and said he wanted to upgrade to Windows ME, since it was better and had the technology to run it. He bought ME just to cope with the frustration of this failed present. Imagine his surprise when the camera worked even less, now not even detecting it as a camera. That piece of junk was shoved into the cable drawer never to be seen again.
Thanks for reminding me that Nick Arcade, which I remember watching reruns on Nick Gas, had the video game portions made by Psygnosis, the devs behind Wipeout and many other games...
Wow, for 1990s PC/webcam technology, that is pretty impressive. I remember the first "kinect" Systems coming out a decade later to be almost as janky...
Developers have said part of the issue was during development of the games for the Kinect it had it's own dedicated processor which helped them to achieve better responsiveness with games. When it was released however it had to use resources from the console to process all the data. This lowered the capabilities of the Kinect and added latency.
@@trickbaggames6579 Yeah, I got to use one of the first dev models and I remember being impressed at the responsiveness and accuracy, especially when estimating skeletal position and movement. I think a large part of that was also that we could calibrate it so precisely to our environment and our own bodies/movement patterns; the amount of parameters being adjustable on the fly in the dev environment being enormous and nothing like what is available in a home kit/software situation.
I remember when my nearby science museum had an exhibit come demonstrating games just like these. I believe the year was 2002 when I attended on a school trip and I remember a game where you were on a flying skateboard of some sort, moving your body up and down to dodge obstacles. The man running the game for us told me our schools would soon use them in the classroom. Still waiting.....
I remember how everyone was blown away by the eye toy on ps2 when i got one for a really sweet deal, i got it by mistake, a bloke was tryna sell it at a toy store, but the owner didn't want it, he said he needed like $30 to buy something, so i walked to him, offered $30 and got it, it was a great toy, made the whole family happy.
Man the nostalgia. Not for this device at home but this was the exact style of capture they used to use at our local Science Center. They had a soccer game and basketball game that I completely remember and they looked exactly like this. So cool. It was my favorite thing to do there!
4:40 Oh. My. God. I think you just unlocked a memory from my childhood of playing this game/watching it being played at the McWayne Science Center in Birmingham when I was just a little kid.
@@Mrliquidawe I think I remember volleyball? I know for a fact they had soccer there, and every single one of the games was nearly impossible to control for any of us. There was a lot more cool stuff on that floor, anyways, like the echo chamber when you first walk in or that fountain in the back corner with those plastic balls in. Still didn't hold a friggin candle to the aquarium floor, though, that was my jam.
@@SharkNinjaBlueStar After I typed that up I remembered that it was definitely soccer I was thinking of. I can still smell that aquarium when I think of it.
I love seeing how excited you are about this old stuff. It's ancient, uninteresting crap for the new generation, but it all had to start somewhere and the beginnings with all the problems really show how much farther we've gotten.
Heck yeah I remember seeing these at my local CompUSA back in the day, but they were too expensive for me as a high school student, I did not get my first webcam till the middle of 2001 that I won in an eBay bid war for $45 that had the massive resolution of 320x240 and if I kept 2 AA in it, I could also use it as a crappy digital camera that held all of 24 images at that resolution, but if the batteries died I lost all the photos, and had no way to preview what I shot till I exported them to my PC when I got back home. Man how far we have come!!
1:57 we had the same Intel cam growing up in the early 2000s I later got the PS2 EyeToy and like 2 games. I had a lot of fun with those. Some of the Sims PS2 games used it too. I still have the PS2 cam too. you can get a custom driver and use it as a pc webcam
I love how you do so much research for these things. God I didn't expect this one to be so damn FUNNY. I have never cracked up so hard at one of your videos.
I hope you're all settled in your new home! Happy to see more new content! I wouldn't mind a tour of the place if/when you have everything laid out the way you want it. I knew you mentioned it'd be a long process.
I'm real surprised at just how well this actually worked considering some of the other webcam game stuff we've seen in the past. I also love how the background slowly takes over more and more of the video lol
Being from Compsci and done my thesis in Computer Vision, this is the coolest Oddware that you have ever made. From what I can tell, They don't use any sort of Color Normalization for their cutout but instead uses Implicit Shape Model, and indeed was researched even as far as 1986 if I remember correctly... I guess that's why the camera are able to take the general outline of your body, but struggles on detecting the background when shadows and noise is introduced. (People with more experience on Computer Vision probably could chime in further, would love to hear about it too). Such an innovation this was before the mass application of RGB Normalization, PRISM, and SVM for detecting edges.
I was hoping you'd make a vid on this after seeing it in the background of one of the mouse videos. Software seems almost like if Vtube Studio was made in the 90s with specific hardware in mind rather than working with any run of the mill webcam. Pretty ahead of its time indeed.
9:51 is funny because first it showed a 16 bit application error, then a 32 bit application error (in msgsrv32), then the blue screen is actually in the FILE SYSTEM driver of all things (vfat). The later exception 0e is a pagefault which can mean several things, like a page of memory being unavailable right now or the paging being violated (accessing ram that isnt being allowed to be accessed right now, like two applications writing in the same page at the same sorta time which is not ok) The "new bluescreen" wasn't actually a new one, it was 0e again
@@neuronic85 Thats definitely why everything stopped working. Too bad nobody knows how this damn installer managed to mess vfat up, it'd be absolutely interesting
@@sinni800 I'm imagining that it was a "clever" programmer that decided to speed up the installer by creating a file writing driver in assembly that writes directly to disk. The Win32 API is for suckers, right? That's too silly an explanation to be true... I hope.
im guessing that installer overwrote something in that 16 bit user mode driver "SB16SND.DRV" shown on the error @ 9:50 which then caused msgsrv32 to crash because msgsrv is a critical component. (it communicates with 32 bit protected mode vxd kernel device drivers to work with user mode portion of windows hence why that usermode driver crashed the entire Operating system.)
@@explorer9049 it was so quick I wasnt able to see the 16 bit error and read it, so the 16 bit error was soundblaster huh (and yes I know dot and comma advances a video by frame but somehow I didnt check that error out up close)
I would totally play this silly game with my family and friends. It looks like an absolute blast, in one of those "lack of control = wacky shenanigans" kind of way. Totally on-board!
Honestly, for 1999,this is awesome, I remember when we first got our Xbox 360 Slim with the Kinect,since I never owned the EyeToy for PS2,it was great Edit: Just finished watching the video,maybe on Blerbs, you could see if the EyeToy camera works with the software? It is still a USB camera after all
The USB Video Class spec first came out 2003, Windows XP only got support in 2004. So both the camera and Windows drivers would be proprietary to the device.
A great example of the real stuff you went through with Windows peripherals in the 90's and how bad it was, often stemming from differences in your hardware. I have a P3 for 98 and I've been extremely cautious with new hardware as it sucks to start over again with one wrong move! Macs weren't entirely immune to this either in the way of Extensions conflicts, though you wouldn't bork your system into needing a reinstall!
One thing that newer Macs don't do well is run older applications. At least when XP came out they tried to make it so that you could run your old DOS programs. I remember when Mac OS X came out they had "classic" that allowed you to run Mac OS 9 programs in OS X but I think they got rid of it in 10.5. Like I own a copy of Photoshop CS6 (sorry, don't want to rent Creative Cloud when CS6 does everything I need it to and I own it) but I can't use CS6 on my M1 iMac, I can however run CS6 perfectly on my Windows 10 PC.
@@Gatorade69 It's a blessing and a curse. The only good thing is that modern software can be kept up to date with the OS codebase and frameworks. The curse is just as you say. I keep an '09 mini and a MDD G4 for legacy stuff -- I don't end up using it much but I too am having a hard time without CS6! I dual boot with Windows 11 tho (Hackintosh actually) so it's good to know CS6 may work there. (Not sure if 11 would support it!)
@@alextirrellRI Yeah not sure about Windows 11 but CS6 works perfectly on Windows 10. I also still have a very old Mini Mac in the closet, it just has some old work files on it. After googling it some people say it works fine on Windows 11 and some people are saying it works but with problems. I'm holding off on Windows 11, I don't see much need for it, but I used XP as long as I could since I hated Vista. Funny thing too because my computer is pretty new and pretty powerful but Windows Update says my computer isn't new enough to update to Windows 11, lol. I got 32gb of ram, a Nvidia RTX 3070, Ryzen 7, 1tb m.2 SSD. So whatever for Win 11.
16:00 this sequence can not be unseen. It is etched into my retina's. Especially when you pick up the tripod and start attacking the ' baby you ' / Samurai warrior approximation of you. 😁🤣🙃😂Almost wet my pants laughing.
Easily one of your best episodes in awhile. I like the background and look forward to seeing your retro woodgrain room when it's complete. I'm hoping it has one of those mid century hifi systems in there, and that the room acoustics are more agreeable. Keep it up!
This technology wasn't even close to ready for prime time when the Kinect did it, and yea, every version of the tech from before that is even more grimy. There's no weird like late 90s and early 00s tech weird.
The tech WAS ready to go when the OG Kinect did it, but Microsoft was cheap and didn't want to include an additional processor on the thing to help bring it to its full potential... More modern (XBOX One) Kinects are much better at their jobs than the original model, though
The technology is a military technology developed by Israel in the mid-80's. That was the first thing our team learned when being trained on the Kinect. It's basically a program developed by terrorists to distinguish targets for the practice of murder.
That's really hard to defend once you actually think about it though. The Kinect sold amazingly well and was very popular for a short time, so on what grounds would you say the "tech isn't there"? It was there and was more than good enough (it was much better than the Eye Toy, which was arguably "good enough"). How successful does a product have to be for you to call it a flop? Lol.
Thanks for this Clint, very interesting and also hilarious! I'm glad you managed to get it working after it kept destroying Windows, it was so worth it just so that we could all see you defeat a creepy baby sumo wrestler version of yourself by using a tripod 😂 also the volleyball section vs the AI of you lmao 🤣 The part that made me laugh the hardest was that "Be There" thing... Especially the people section... like what?? 🤣 I can imagine the laughs I woulda got out of this if I'd had one as a kid. As it was I remember having a lot of fun with the first webcam we got and that was just taking pictures with friends, we would have loved this!
imagine being in 1999, when most of us had only one computer shared by the whole family: you buy this thing, bring it home, install the driver and screw up the operating system 😂😂😂
I feel like I reinstalled Win 98 every two weeks even without owning a webcam or other USB peripherals. It wasn't exactly the stablest OS...
@@Tipsukka I would do a reformat/Reinstall of Windows 98 like every 4 or 5 months.
Casually recompiling the kernel after downloading the gamecam drivers, no biggie
In 1999 at my home we hadn't a cellphone even
I reinstalled 98 more times than I can count.
The farting is a cool feature of windows input event routing system. If no process anywhere is servicing the mouse and keyboard event queue, then when it reaches a full queue, it emits one fart for each keyboard or mouse event that was discarded.
XD I swear, Windows 9.x was so damn busted. Thank fuck for Windows NT/2000/XP.
I feel oddly fulfilled knowing this. I had alot of fart scenarios back in the day trying to use different cheap USB controllers to play Unreal tournament. Then the freeze and fart would happen.. Always had to unplug the web cam, the 2 never played nice. I always thought that I was just crashing something trying to jump between unreal tournament and icq while using Napster.. allegedly..
Yeah, I encountered that one a few times. Even made it happen in a few of my own programs. Windows was a lot more fun back then.
" it emits one fart for each keyboard or mouse event that was discarded." much like your mother
Even Windows 10 can have the same "farting" thing happen when the input event queue is full.
Watching you beat a mutant Cliff-sumo baby with a tripod stand is legitimately one of the funniest things I've seen in a while (and a sentence I don't know has ever been said before).
5:56 - Super-badass to have an interactive 360 image from ANY year in the 1990’s. Thank you, LGR, for always thoroughly researching every aspect of the topics on which you speak.
Its called a panoramic shot, been around longer than computers.
@@gordo965 Thank you, yes. In this instance, Clint appears to be using his mouse to navigate an interactive Quicktime VR image, and that technology was available starting in the mid-90's. I'm guessing the originating camera utilized a hemispherical-mirror type adapter, so as to record as much of the environment as possible in a single image.
@@CarletonTorpin Yeah, I remember pottering around the web and finding some of those even then. It definitely felt amazing at the time.
@@CarletonTorpin That's how they did some of the later Myst games, as QTVR with embedded videos.
Need For Speed games (specifically III and High Stakes, can't remember if Porsche had it) allowed you to view 360 degree pictures of the interiors of the various available cars.
You know it’s getting serious, when a tripod becomes the weapon!
I wouldn't want to get hit by a "professional" grade heavy tripod myself!
Especially if it's War of the Worlds.
When a particular lone Gurkha didn't have his kukri in reach
Thank you! I had this in the early 2000's! Eventually Logitech added it to all of their webcams. My nephews grew up with this. I eventually just used a pencil to fight in the karate game. We named him Mr. Pencil. We drew a mustache on him.
Thanks once again for showing this because no one ever knows what I'm talking about when I mention this.
I love how the second you pick up the tripod to start swinging it, you nearly blast the table with it. I'm surprised the tripod, the table, and the ceiling fan made it out of this episode alive, lol.
I did wonder if he would accidentally knock something over or smash something.
Frankly, it didn't look worse then what I often see during video conferences at my work... laptop cams didn't make too much progress in past 20 years - or at least this is what manufacturers sell to us.
I just got a logitech cam last year, and I did not get any cool software :(
@Elias Yildiz People also don't want laptoplids as thick as smartphones, there is not very much space to put a sensor an lens in there.
This is one of the most enjoyable LGR videos ever. Me and my kids were laughing our heads off at how ridiculous some of this was, Brilliant!!
16:20 Well if this ten seconds of video doesn't summarize Oddware in the most perfect way then I truly don't know what would!
I worked on this. It was super fun. You can see the back of my head in the garage shot.
I’m amazed how well researched this video is. Nice job!
Well hey, I’m glad to hear and thank you for the comment! The tech is still impressive considering the hardware it’s using, it really seemed like the future back then.
@@LGR Fun fact: Barry's grandfather Percy Spencer invented the microwave oven. Other Fun fact: Reggie Miller played the Reality Fusion basketball game on an episode of the Donny & Marie Osmond show.
No one ever believes me when i tell them i used to have online classes with my teacher and classmates in the early 2000's that were practically identical to today's zoom classes, we even had music class where everyone would play their recorders all at once over the mic. I think the online class program was called Centra and was done over satellite internet on an old IBM and CRT.
I grew up on a remote cattle station in Australia so i went to KSOTA (Kimberley School of The Air) so all learning was done remotely, for my first couple of years of school we had classes (including music class) over a shortwave ham radio.
Edit: I should clarify that we weren't doing video call classes until about 2007 or 2008, when i said identical to zoom i meant in the online class and learning aspect.
That's really interesting!
There were a software solutions as early as the early 90s, I'm thinking of the program CU-SeeMe that was usable over modem. You connected to a "reflector"-server that delivered the streams from the other participants. Earlier very capable ISDN video conferencing were available.
@@kanalnamn Yeah you could stream yourself and watch 2 other people with a good 56k connection. The video wasn't smooth but good for what it was. And this was using a black and white Quickcam on the parallel port.
Found the a video of the Centra software being demonstrated if anyone's interested at what it looked like th-cam.com/video/2E2ymOUcyAE/w-d-xo.html
I reckon this would have been way better than zoom calls during the pandemic, you can actually do more than just slideshows.
That's impressive. I'm also regional and all we had was conference phones and a shared whiteboard system that let the teachers and students draw and type on a shared screen. That was late 2000's.
Oh, man, thanks for the laughs! The blue screens of death, mouse farts and playing around with the camera itself put me in stitches. This is truly a fun piece of oddware. You definitely need to make a weird music video with the trippy effects at the end, some "fresh oats" sound effects thrown in there, Duke Nukem lines and that sequence where you were beating the sumo baby that had your face with a tripod. Guaranteed to be one of the top hits at the summer music festivals.
PS. That sumo baby is straight nightmare fuel, I swear! But for some reason, you just can't look away from it.
that sounds like a meme just WAITING to happen
As someone studying and wanting to get deeper into the action recognition area of computer vision and artificial intelligence, its still absolutely nuts to me to see a piece of consumer software and equipment almost as old as i am thats capable of doing that much!
I hear you, I was a few years back amazed how much you can today do in literally minutes with stuff like OpenCV. I really appreciate how much wizardry had to go into building something like this in the 90s from scratch.
. . . & for a measly $129.99,
You Too Could Do! ...erm, this.
Iol
This is so damn 90s! The colors, the interface, everything!
"Surprise" was probably nothing more than a randomizer putting you in some context. From a perspective as software-dev, this is probably as far as you can get with USB 1.1 (still astonished about the frame rate) and a PC of that time. No AI/ML there yet to distinguish you from the background, let alone processing power. I would have probably been able to get near these results a few years later, and wish I could have been part of this!
This was hilarious. Fascinating forerunner of today's video filters and effects we take for granted on TikTok etc.
What would Freud have said about Clint using a camera tripod to attack his adultbaby-self LMAO
Great video! I'm so glad you dug this up. And thanks for the plug and kind words, much appreciated.
My pleasure, sir!
Changing your aura to green reminded me of a fallout 1 npc getting targeted during combat
"Move chairs and breakable objects AWAY from your computer!"
Discounting the fact that the computer is _also_ a breakable object (especially when someone is swinging a tripod).
It probably says somewhere in the instructions "Use of weapons such as camera tripods near the computer is not recommended."
The good old days of the blue screen of death. Amazing how Microsoft has done such a fantastic job keeping it alive.
and updated it for every OS since
@@rawr51919 lol
Nowadays it feels almost insulting now that they added the smiley face
@@TheNephilimofEmpireCity 😆
I never in my life would I have imagined I would see Clint from LGR beat up a sumo baby that has his likeness with a closed tripod.
This episode certainly delivered!!
7:53 I have vivid memories of playing EyeToy on PS2 as a child.
It was amazing to be able to control it with my body for the first time back then.
I only ever used it when the Walmart we went to,had a Kiosk set up,I played a boxing game that was a ton of fun
I've always wanted one as a kid, but realizing later as a teen it's basically a web cam with very simple games lol. See them in Thrift stores and retro game stores all the time, I wonder why? 😂😂😂
@@Clos93 because they are obsolete and probably will not run on anything newer than M.e. , maybe Vista of you're lucky...
@@Clos93 Thr latest version of it is basically the Xbox Kinect. I always see a Kinect (Or 2) when I go to Goodwill.
@@Quickened1 talking about the Eyetoy
What surprises me more is the fact that in the 90's the tech for eliminate the background from a webcam footage without any extra software and hardware already existed and I though it was something that came in the last couple of years, pretty cool indeed.
I remember a field trip in the probably mid to late 90's to Discovery Place in Charlotte, NC where they had a beach ball volleyball thing like this. It was a 2 player game projected in full size on the wall so you were actually "hitting the ball" in "real life". It must have been pretty early tech as it didn't work nearly as well as it should of for a public interactive exhibit, but it did keep a bunch of us elementary schoolers occupied for a while.
Oh dang, that may have been where I played Shark Bait! I forgot all about Discovery Place, I only got to visit a couple times since it was a 2 hour drive.
I definitely remember the one at Discovery Place but I swear there was one at either Sci-Works or the Greensboro Science Center with the shark game. I was a regular as a kid at both. Sadly I also lived 2hrs from Charlotte in Lewisville right outside Winston-Salem. The best thing at Discovery Place was the air lift chair! Good times!
Really cool to see The Computer Chronicles mentioned and exampled in a current-day retro review!
Amazon used to have ads in print?? That's wild. I mean it makes sense when I think about it, but I would never have thought about it.
Yeah that surprised me too, I remember back when Amazon was mainly an online book seller at first, but I had never seen a print ad!
You beating the absolute hell out of your sumo baby counterpart with a tripod, has to be the funniest thing I've seen on this channel. thanks for the unexpected laugh 🤣
I remember having an Intel Create and Share camera from the same year with a similar software and game suite. Camera motion games, picture cards, and video web chats. I was really excited to get it as a 12 year old. It felt like the future.
Played most of the games once, did one video call (which was post-stamped size and appropriately laggy for 56k dial-up), and I never really used the camera much after a month or two. 😂
IMO webcams-for-kids-entertainment-wise Lego did it the best with their Studios set. Combined with a variety of others it was a lot of fun to do stopmotion and rigged animation. Then WinXP came around and killed off the software compatibility lol
When entry level digital cameras were taking photos that looked like they were from the bottom of a soup bowl, this is extremely impressive.
@@danimayb I remember paying like $99.99 for a 1 megapixel camera from CompUSA back in the earliest days of consumer digital cameras. It held 10 photos and they were like photographing through milk lol
That much progress in Skype is truly excellence in software development. Very neat stuff!
Clint fighting an oversized karate-sumo baby Clint with a tripod is pure gold.
This is the reason i subbed, totally.
I would love to see a 90's de-make of Beat Saber with this tech 😂
Seeing Clint lose it over seeing himself in-game reminds me of when my fiance put me in Photo Dojo on the DSi
I was really hoping there was going to be an LGR Blerb on drywall repair after you got into it with the tripod.
Boy, I remember seeing a demo setup at FutureShop for this. I never knew anyone that had this , but I for sure would have played it. I know ME gets a lot of hate, but the driver stability, especially with game controllers and USB stuff is far superior. It's why my ME rig is still going strong. Windows 98 SE was just bluescreen hell when trying to get SLI setup along with gravis gamepad controller. The jankiness and ability to play an psuedo evil you, is actually pretty cool. The fact it plays well enough on not really special hardware is amazing.
I just had one of the worst weeks of my life. Watching your video helped me smile again.
LGR always provides a good time and has this uniquely positive vibe.
Thank you & Greetings from Germany :)
Bless you friend, I feel your pain, don't ever give up, there is always hope.
And more Oddware once in a while :)
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Thanks a lot for your kind words! ❤️ Greetings from Germany
@@eliasyildiz Dankeschön! :) Geht langsam wieder bergauf. Dir ebenfalls alles Gute und noch ein wunderbares neues Jahr.
@@eliasyildiz Danke! :)
Advanced for its time, and of course led to our time. Good to see where it began (well, if not where it began, how the path to the present went)
This is the essence of oddware. Amazing.
You are cool 😎
SO ARE YOU
Pog
Epic
And lazy!
Seeing you enjoy this as much as you did, just proves, the 90's was truly special.
Really loved this episode Clint, that volleyball scene genuinely had me laughing out loud. Also by the end I could see a few dots of sweat on your shirt, certainly looked like a workout and looked like you had a ton of fun making this episode 😂!
I've always loved Logitech. Solid brand for a good price. I will say, the karate game reminded me a little bit of a game on the Nintendo DSi called Photo Dojo. It came out 10 years after this, but you could take pictures of you or whomever in different poses and record custom sounds for them. Needless to say, hilarity ensued when I made my cats in the game
With modern browsers and pcs, and practically everyone having webcams, this could EASILY be made into a browser game. The janky cutouts and prerecorded move sets, meme faces, this could go so far. I want this to be a thing.
i love your channel, thanks for bringing me joy
Well, this is a blast of the past! My dad had a Compaq Presario PC running Windows 2000, and it came with a Logitech webcam (different model, but somehow the quality of the image wasn't too far off from what you show in the video). It came with the Reality Fusion Software, same UI and all but oddly it rarely if ever gave me such severe technical issues. I used to play the Volleyball game a lot - creating your own avatar to compete against was as hilarious as shown in this video 😅. It also had the same basketball game, no different whatsoever. It did have one other different game though. Your image could "float" around in a glass cube structure suspended above earth, floating around this cube and bumping off the glass walls like the DVD logo screensaver. You could add bubbles to pop and interact with random objects floating on screen too.
I realize after writing this down that it sounds like a fever dream, but for late 1900/early 2000s software it kind of was 😂
Best oddware episode so far, it was great seeing Clint laughing his a** off haha
You playing volleyball against “yourself” and battling a sumo wrestler with a mask of your face is INSANE and beyond funny!
I also remember going to a kids museum on trips when our family would visit my grandma and they also had that blue screen Mandala full body game. I distinctly remember me trying to block as many CGI soccer balls as I could and failing spectacularly 😂
That memory seemed like a fever dream and I was curious if you would mention that game in this video and I got very excited when you did!! I would really love to play that game again!
This was great! That netball was massively hilarious, and that end fractal one with you dividing yourself into pieces and dancing in music videos was funny and awesome! Cheers for this dude!
I remember playing a VR setup for Star Trek as an away mission, back in the late 90's at my science center/museum. Mind blown.
My bro and I had this (or something very similar) as kids. Literal minutes of fun! I did end up using this webcam for many years after.
"minutes of fun". That's what SHE said... about 90s tech toys.
My dad got me one of these cameras for my 10th birthday! It was a clear-blue one, very thick and promised wonders with its scan technology. We couldn't make it work, no matter what we did. My dad blamed our outdated 98 PC, (it was 2000 tops, lol), and said he wanted to upgrade to Windows ME, since it was better and had the technology to run it. He bought ME just to cope with the frustration of this failed present.
Imagine his surprise when the camera worked even less, now not even detecting it as a camera. That piece of junk was shoved into the cable drawer never to be seen again.
OMG I posted this comment before watching the video and what my dad got was EXACTLY what Clint showed, the Intel Play Me 2 Cam. Screw that camera.
Thanks for reminding me that Nick Arcade, which I remember watching reruns on Nick Gas, had the video game portions made by Psygnosis, the devs behind Wipeout and many other games...
Wow, for 1990s PC/webcam technology, that is pretty impressive. I remember the first "kinect" Systems coming out a decade later to be almost as janky...
Especially since those later camera systems had a higher resolution and framerate to work with
Come on, that's not fair!
This has much more accurate hitboxes.
Developers have said part of the issue was during development of the games for the Kinect it had it's own dedicated processor which helped them to achieve better responsiveness with games. When it was released however it had to use resources from the console to process all the data. This lowered the capabilities of the Kinect and added latency.
@@trickbaggames6579 Yeah, I got to use one of the first dev models and I remember being impressed at the responsiveness and accuracy, especially when estimating skeletal position and movement. I think a large part of that was also that we could calibrate it so precisely to our environment and our own bodies/movement patterns; the amount of parameters being adjustable on the fly in the dev environment being enormous and nothing like what is available in a home kit/software situation.
I remember when my nearby science museum had an exhibit come demonstrating games just like these. I believe the year was 2002 when I attended on a school trip and I remember a game where you were on a flying skateboard of some sort, moving your body up and down to dodge obstacles. The man running the game for us told me our schools would soon use them in the classroom. Still waiting.....
I remember how everyone was blown away by the eye toy on ps2 when i got one for a really sweet deal, i got it by mistake, a bloke was tryna sell it at a toy store, but the owner didn't want it, he said he needed like $30 to buy something, so i walked to him, offered $30 and got it, it was a great toy, made the whole family happy.
The constant green, plasma/electrical fire in the background is really an aesthetic ;D. Funny how that turned out.
I was NOT ready for the volleyball game. Holy shit, I cried from laughter at 3am.
ngl sometimes I watch your vids just for the cool jazz and smooth narration
Man the nostalgia. Not for this device at home but this was the exact style of capture they used to use at our local Science Center. They had a soccer game and basketball game that I completely remember and they looked exactly like this. So cool. It was my favorite thing to do there!
After so many years of watching LGR, finally one of this oddwares that I really knew and played a few times
4:40 Oh. My. God. I think you just unlocked a memory from my childhood of playing this game/watching it being played at the McWayne Science Center in Birmingham when I was just a little kid.
I don't remember Shark Bait being there but I know they definitely had a volleyball game that worked the same way! McWayne is awesome.
@@Mrliquidawe I think I remember volleyball? I know for a fact they had soccer there, and every single one of the games was nearly impossible to control for any of us. There was a lot more cool stuff on that floor, anyways, like the echo chamber when you first walk in or that fountain in the back corner with those plastic balls in. Still didn't hold a friggin candle to the aquarium floor, though, that was my jam.
@@SharkNinjaBlueStar After I typed that up I remembered that it was definitely soccer I was thinking of. I can still smell that aquarium when I think of it.
I love seeing how excited you are about this old stuff. It's ancient, uninteresting crap for the new generation, but it all had to start somewhere and the beginnings with all the problems really show how much farther we've gotten.
Heck yeah I remember seeing these at my local CompUSA back in the day, but they were too expensive for me as a high school student, I did not get my first webcam till the middle of 2001 that I won in an eBay bid war for $45 that had the massive resolution of 320x240 and if I kept 2 AA in it, I could also use it as a crappy digital camera that held all of 24 images at that resolution, but if the batteries died I lost all the photos, and had no way to preview what I shot till I exported them to my PC when I got back home. Man how far we have come!!
1:57 we had the same Intel cam growing up in the early 2000s
I later got the PS2 EyeToy and like 2 games. I had a lot of fun with those. Some of the Sims PS2 games used it too.
I still have the PS2 cam too. you can get a custom driver and use it as a pc webcam
I love how you do so much research for these things.
God I didn't expect this one to be so damn FUNNY. I have never cracked up so hard at one of your videos.
That music video thing is pretty cool. Honestly, if I had this as a kid I would be pretty impressed!
I hope you're all settled in your new home! Happy to see more new content! I wouldn't mind a tour of the place if/when you have everything laid out the way you want it. I knew you mentioned it'd be a long process.
I'm real surprised at just how well this actually worked considering some of the other webcam game stuff we've seen in the past. I also love how the background slowly takes over more and more of the video lol
Being from Compsci and done my thesis in Computer Vision, this is the coolest Oddware that you have ever made.
From what I can tell, They don't use any sort of Color Normalization for their cutout but instead uses Implicit Shape Model, and indeed was researched even as far as 1986 if I remember correctly... I guess that's why the camera are able to take the general outline of your body, but struggles on detecting the background when shadows and noise is introduced. (People with more experience on Computer Vision probably could chime in further, would love to hear about it too).
Such an innovation this was before the mass application of RGB Normalization, PRISM, and SVM for detecting edges.
Clint does a great job being entertaining , even for people who I know nothing about laptops and what not
Seeing Clint beating up his baby self with a tripod, is the funniest thing😂
Thank you for the laughs, Clint! I really enjoyed this episode.
I was hoping you'd make a vid on this after seeing it in the background of one of the mouse videos.
Software seems almost like if Vtube Studio was made in the 90s with specific hardware in mind rather than working with any run of the mill webcam. Pretty ahead of its time indeed.
I love this channel soo much, thanks for keeping the world class entertainment space interesting Clint!
9:51 is funny because first it showed a 16 bit application error, then a 32 bit application error (in msgsrv32), then the blue screen is actually in the FILE SYSTEM driver of all things (vfat). The later exception 0e is a pagefault which can mean several things, like a page of memory being unavailable right now or the paging being violated (accessing ram that isnt being allowed to be accessed right now, like two applications writing in the same page at the same sorta time which is not ok)
The "new bluescreen" wasn't actually a new one, it was 0e again
Nice breakdown! It's never a good sign when the file system driver crashes. No wonder the 98 install got unstable.
@@neuronic85 Thats definitely why everything stopped working. Too bad nobody knows how this damn installer managed to mess vfat up, it'd be absolutely interesting
@@sinni800 I'm imagining that it was a "clever" programmer that decided to speed up the installer by creating a file writing driver in assembly that writes directly to disk. The Win32 API is for suckers, right?
That's too silly an explanation to be true... I hope.
im guessing that installer overwrote something in that 16 bit user mode driver "SB16SND.DRV" shown on the error @ 9:50 which then caused msgsrv32 to crash because msgsrv is a critical component. (it communicates with 32 bit protected mode vxd kernel device drivers to work with user mode portion of windows hence why that usermode driver crashed the entire Operating system.)
@@explorer9049 it was so quick I wasnt able to see the 16 bit error and read it, so the 16 bit error was soundblaster huh (and yes I know dot and comma advances a video by frame but somehow I didnt check that error out up close)
Good times. Absolutely fantastic times.. We used to know how to have fun..
Thanks for this. Cheers!
AI-Animated-GIF-Clint trying to play volleyball is the best thing ever.
Hey Clint, I'm grateful for your videos bud. They are informative and are equal parts of humor and nostalgia. They always brighten my mood.
I would totally play this silly game with my family and friends. It looks like an absolute blast, in one of those "lack of control = wacky shenanigans" kind of way. Totally on-board!
Had to watch this twice to really take it all in. What an excellent balance of actually doing the thing it says it does & total janky madness!
Truly the future! - some guy in the mid 90s
I remember playing this in the early 2000s on a purple faced Compaq Presario. Bringing back some memories Clint!
Honestly, for 1999,this is awesome, I remember when we first got our Xbox 360 Slim with the Kinect,since I never owned the EyeToy for PS2,it was great
Edit: Just finished watching the video,maybe on Blerbs, you could see if the EyeToy camera works with the software? It is still a USB camera after all
The USB Video Class spec first came out 2003, Windows XP only got support in 2004. So both the camera and Windows drivers would be proprietary to the device.
Whoever makes the subtitles for LGR videos - thank you very much sir. Helps a lot for people like me who doesn't speak/understand English very well. 👍
That'd be me! Glad they're appreciated :)
Oh hell yes, Uncle Clint comes back with something odd, forgotten and obsolete!
I belly cried at the V-ball AI opponent. Had to walk out of the room and calm down for 5 mins. Totally amazing.
A great example of the real stuff you went through with Windows peripherals in the 90's and how bad it was, often stemming from differences in your hardware. I have a P3 for 98 and I've been extremely cautious with new hardware as it sucks to start over again with one wrong move! Macs weren't entirely immune to this either in the way of Extensions conflicts, though you wouldn't bork your system into needing a reinstall!
One thing that newer Macs don't do well is run older applications. At least when XP came out they tried to make it so that you could run your old DOS programs. I remember when Mac OS X came out they had "classic" that allowed you to run Mac OS 9 programs in OS X but I think they got rid of it in 10.5.
Like I own a copy of Photoshop CS6 (sorry, don't want to rent Creative Cloud when CS6 does everything I need it to and I own it) but I can't use CS6 on my M1 iMac, I can however run CS6 perfectly on my Windows 10 PC.
@@Gatorade69 It's a blessing and a curse. The only good thing is that modern software can be kept up to date with the OS codebase and frameworks. The curse is just as you say. I keep an '09 mini and a MDD G4 for legacy stuff -- I don't end up using it much but I too am having a hard time without CS6! I dual boot with Windows 11 tho (Hackintosh actually) so it's good to know CS6 may work there. (Not sure if 11 would support it!)
@@alextirrellRI Yeah not sure about Windows 11 but CS6 works perfectly on Windows 10. I also still have a very old Mini Mac in the closet, it just has some old work files on it.
After googling it some people say it works fine on Windows 11 and some people are saying it works but with problems.
I'm holding off on Windows 11, I don't see much need for it, but I used XP as long as I could since I hated Vista. Funny thing too because my computer is pretty new and pretty powerful but Windows Update says my computer isn't new enough to update to Windows 11, lol. I got 32gb of ram, a Nvidia RTX 3070, Ryzen 7, 1tb m.2 SSD. So whatever for Win 11.
Been watching Clint since his soda poppin days. Nice seeing him laugh and having fun.
16:00 this sequence can not be unseen. It is etched into my retina's. Especially when you pick up the tripod and start attacking the ' baby you ' / Samurai warrior approximation of you. 😁🤣🙃😂Almost wet my pants laughing.
My favorite part in the video 😂. Imagine someone seeing this out of context
Love the increasing amounts of warp energy building during the video
I do not miss the tech of the 90s nearly as much as I miss the optimism of the 90s itself ... especially since this february.
Easily one of your best episodes in awhile. I like the background and look forward to seeing your retro woodgrain room when it's complete. I'm hoping it has one of those mid century hifi systems in there, and that the room acoustics are more agreeable. Keep it up!
This technology wasn't even close to ready for prime time when the Kinect did it, and yea, every version of the tech from before that is even more grimy. There's no weird like late 90s and early 00s tech weird.
The tech WAS ready to go when the OG Kinect did it, but Microsoft was cheap and didn't want to include an additional processor on the thing to help bring it to its full potential... More modern (XBOX One) Kinects are much better at their jobs than the original model, though
The technology is a military technology developed by Israel in the mid-80's. That was the first thing our team learned when being trained on the Kinect. It's basically a program developed by terrorists to distinguish targets for the practice of murder.
That's really hard to defend once you actually think about it though. The Kinect sold amazingly well and was very popular for a short time, so on what grounds would you say the "tech isn't there"? It was there and was more than good enough (it was much better than the Eye Toy, which was arguably "good enough"). How successful does a product have to be for you to call it a flop? Lol.
@@thestripedmenace the kinect has always been and stayed overpriced garbage that can only listen to you commanding the console to watch tv
These sort of episodes are the best LGR episodes.
Can you even imagine setting this up as a kid in the late 90s? No google or anything. 😂
Thanks for the much needed laughs in this! Very informative and neat, too.
Thanks for this Clint, very interesting and also hilarious! I'm glad you managed to get it working after it kept destroying Windows, it was so worth it just so that we could all see you defeat a creepy baby sumo wrestler version of yourself by using a tripod 😂 also the volleyball section vs the AI of you lmao 🤣
The part that made me laugh the hardest was that "Be There" thing... Especially the people section... like what?? 🤣
I can imagine the laughs I woulda got out of this if I'd had one as a kid. As it was I remember having a lot of fun with the first webcam we got and that was just taking pictures with friends, we would have loved this!
This actually looks like it would have been a lot of fun back then (and still a bit of fun even today!)
I love how your ""lazy"" game reviews are better than most game reviews.
just a name bruh
This might be one of the best videos on the channel. That v-ball scene was hilarious, my stomach hurt from laughing. Thanks for another great Oddware!