And I also want to see the reaction for Finland. My Grandpa died the morning after Lordi won in 2006, It was the last thing he watched on television in the hospital. And now we placed 6th, the best result since my grandpa died😥
It's understandable that Americans would place the songs like this... But knowing eurovision, the UK wouldn't be anywhere near top 10 and Iceland or Russia would probably battle it out for the win
@@michontourr honestly I feel like Germany is either really far up or really far down ahahah. A couple of years ago you had a song called "you let me walk alone" or something that placed really high! PS: I usually love Germany's songs tho and I'm always sad when they're underrated
POV: You are just here, passing the comments, giving like to the ones that ask for the 2021 reaction, and asking yourself when are they going to upload it and if you are gonna have to leave a comment asking for it.
Do NOT be disrespecting Lithuania’s dancing like that, it’s amazing because it’s funny and reminding me of what I do when no one is in my room so I love it
@@бубылдачючева because we have a totally different opinion. I don't agree with that list. Only agree in Iceland, Russia and Lithuania. The good songs of this year are Bulgaria, Malta and Switzerland
@@Nyrella I strongly disagree. The ESC 2020 was canceled. No winner, no headlines about the final, no reason to hurry. Every other reactions were published one week after the final: 05/19/2017 05/18/2018 05/24/2019
Now I realize how different the Americans and the Europeans taste... In europe, it needs to be uniqe and creative - originality is the key (even athnic...) However, the americans prefer more radio friendly style music.
I don’t agree, looking at people’s Eurovision tops you can see how much people’s opinions vary just in Europe, everyone has different opinions and who’s to say Americans wouldn’t enjoy the ethnic ones ?
"You don't have to be dancing in a music video"... It wasn't about filling screen space. It was about creating a viral dance to which anyone can dance. Easy and fun
Totally agree. Like seriously, what do you think they were gonna do on stage? Just stand in one place? No! They made sure all of Europe remembers our country🇱🇹
especially with their population, their choices would easily overpower an entire continent. It would literally be an extremely unfair advantage. sure European countries have their own advantages but with this they literally might as well hand the trophy over to americas first choice if America ever participated straight away.
@@Milkpastasoup popular votes in eurovision arent number of population based though, its always a set amount. So, no, the american population wouldn't overwhelm the voting system unless you're considering OFWs, at which point the Eastern Europe bloc would be mostly unaffected anyways. Plus biases already exist in the competition so w/e
They can have a vote and participate. My problem is that knowing Americans, they would either take it way too serious or not pay any respect to it at all. And they would probably demand more than one vote because they have such a big country.
2021 was the best Eurovision show we had in years. It is quite sad that you guys didn't react to it. 😭 Hope you do it soon, followed by a reaction to Eurovision 2022 which is around the corner.
Love how i check this video every so often to see if they finally did 2021 and then i see other comments demanding 2021 so i know it hasnt been made yet xD like come on. i was rooting for italy since day 1 so i really wanna see other people reacting to them, finland, and some of my other faves. let's go already lol
God of Fiji nah I reckon it would’ve got in the top 10. I liked it a lot ( as an Irish person ) and I always complain that the jury is up Sweden’s ass 😂 I love them though nearly every year - controversial opinion is that I prefer move over heroes 🤷🏻♀️
The fact that they did spain, uk and norway instead of songs like the once from switzerland, serbia and others who are wayy better, shows they dont do their resource correctly
@@honooryu5374 It's ok, don't worry! We sadly can only make bets of who would've won, let's just wait for 2021 to see all these amazing artists perform!
They just used Spotify reproductions, I imagine UK people did the same that Spanish people, listen to their own song a lot haha Still a lovely song, not in my top 8, but I liked it
A bit disrespectful to show only 8 countries when you have no clue what would be the top 8, top 10 or whatsoever in the actual live contest. I believe all countries or almost all of them have videos (either music videos or of their performances in the national contest) so there's no excuse to discard some of them.
Haven't watched this in a long time but I can't believe you showed UK in this list instead of Switzerland😒 Also, sidenote, where that 2021 reaction at?
It’s a shame they didn’t show them Bulgaria, Malta, Switzerland, Azerbaijan, Romania and Italy and they chose UK and Spain instead. Since the contest was cancelled, at least show them the favourites
SafiraK I think we would have had another bottom 5 place but not last, and a few countries like Spain, Czech and Sweden giving us a small amount of points. We did do well in Sweden and Iceland's preview shows, but I don't trust them because Armenia didn't do well in these shows, and, whilst I know it was the song that was most there to divide, something UK has a fear of doing because of that "no one likes us" excuse, I have plenty of reasons why I think Armenia would have been top 3, became a televote fave, and fared well in both lists.
They aren't even gonna do 2021 i guess, even jesc 2021 passed and eurovision season started. Don't get your hopes up because their "favorite tradition" isn't this anymore lmao
I think it's safe to say we're getting a Eurovision 2022 reaction (based on their Community post), but I really REALLY hope we get some sort of Eurovision 2021 reaction as well. That show was iconic and had so many good songs.
@@peterrabbitn787 yeah I still don't know why they didn't react to Eurovision last year. After losing so many viewers (this channel I mean) you'd think they'd react to things that are gonna get lots of views, but no. ._.
This list was questionable. They should've picked the top 10 songs that the experts were predicting to do great and then have them ranked by your team. United Kindom was preeetty far down, but because it's UK people are gonna listen to it on spotify, so that system is not really fair.
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“She is a european Adele!”
Adele : from the UK
Lmao I love Americans so much 😂😂😂
It doesn't matter, UK is the less european country in the continent.
@@erickalonsochaconmata9683 israel/austrlia: "am i ajoke to you?"
@@jenkrash8122 I just said “in the continent”.
@@erickalonsochaconmata9683 why tho? what about Iceland
@@erickalonsochaconmata9683 Ok then, Turkey.
Ya'll seriously underestimated Iceland. That song has gone hella viral over here across Europe. Even became a TikTok trend
It’s so funny that it became a tik tok trend. Same with Ulrikke’s song! :D
I'm Dutch and I absolutely love "Think about things"!!
I also like little big and uno was okay but not winner material. 😍
Still absolutely and thoroughly convinced Iceland would have won Eurovision 2020.
I’m American and I loce ‘Think About Things’ as well as ‘Where We Wanna Be’ !!!
love***
pov: your here because your still in the eurovision 2021 vibe and are just watching all the old ones because your waiting for the new one to drop
All the Europeans wanting the 2021 reaction just so we can all laugh😂😂
exactly hahah
Yesss we need it.
And I also want to see the reaction for Finland. My Grandpa died the morning after Lordi won in 2006, It was the last thing he watched on television in the hospital. And now we placed 6th, the best result since my grandpa died😥
Still waiting
@Neige It sure did! :)
UK in the top songs? You guys obviously don't know how voting goes down in Eurovision
@MintyKPt 1997 ;v;
Same with Spain xd
yeah all they had to do is look at the bookmakers smh
Send good songs, then?
Well the UK have a on 5 times so check your facts!
It's understandable that Americans would place the songs like this... But knowing eurovision, the UK wouldn't be anywhere near top 10 and Iceland or Russia would probably battle it out for the win
But sweden would get all them jury votes and non off them tele votes
@@queenkomstadius8185 yes Sweden probably would be the most voted by the jury because it literally always is ahahaha
Germany wouldn’t be as high as well bc I feel like everyone just hates us hahaha
@@michontourr honestly I feel like Germany is either really far up or really far down ahahah. A couple of years ago you had a song called "you let me walk alone" or something that placed really high!
PS: I usually love Germany's songs tho and I'm always sad when they're underrated
@Joe S fair point ahahah. Plus, brexit might make it even harder for you guys to win, but I actually kind of liked the song you put out this year
POV: You are just here, passing the comments, giving like to the ones that ask for the 2021 reaction, and asking yourself when are they going to upload it and if you are gonna have to leave a comment asking for it.
Yes, exactly!
We are all waiting for the 2021 version. Am I right or am I right?🤪
Do NOT be disrespecting Lithuania’s dancing like that, it’s amazing because it’s funny and reminding me of what I do when no one is in my room so I love it
to hear american opinions on eurovision is always funny
ikr
why
@@бубылдачючева because we have a totally different opinion. I don't agree with that list. Only agree in Iceland, Russia and Lithuania. The good songs of this year are Bulgaria, Malta and Switzerland
Yeah, their opinions are quite different
@@joaotristao9974 you couldnt be more correct , I also liked Armenia
My top 5 would be Malta - Switzerland- Iceland-Armenia- Lithuania
They were really like “let’s use Spotify as a way to place the contestants” when Russia DIDNT even HAVE Spotify until the end of July 2020
still probably the reason why Malta wasn't included :/
Albanian doesn’t have it yet either
EXACTLY it was banned in Russia. We don't even have IG music here
They should have used eurovision odds
Casually waiting for them to react to 2021's top 10, we had some bangers this year!
I can't wait
@The Bookdragon's Shelf it was well deserved, such a good song, loved Finland too, I want more of that music in Eurovision 😄
@The Bookdragon's Shelf Italy does badly? The jurys do badly! Italy 2015, Mahmood in 2019?
They should have picked the top 8 based on betting odds this year. That’d give a better indicator of which songs were ACTUALLY in the running to win.
Americans don't understand it haha XD they always pick the most generic songs. Bute we all know that the weirder ones win. ;)
michelle l last year duncan wasnt weard
@@sn4x22 2018: Netta
2017: Salvador and his weird gestures
2004: Ruslana
2007: Verka won my heart but not the competition :(
@@liammcgoldrick9498 Verka was robbed!
Verka may not have won the competition, but everyone remembers her!
They just don't get it 😂 weirdness and alternative songs are what wins 😂
I’m an American, and I feel like Russia would’ve won, that was a *bop*
anyone that puts uk anywhere but last place never saw eurovision
Omg yess😹
Anyone who would automatically put UK last only vote based on politics.
I mean, back in the day placing UK in the top 10 or even 5 was pretty common.
Same with Germany and Spain usually
This year they put efford...well...damn, poor boyz. 😂
He is a European Adele😂😂
Honey you know that Adele is from the UK.
so we all came here looking for the 2021 version
You’re telling me the supers put UK above ICELAND, RUSSIA AND LITHUANIA???? Dear FBE, you need to hire some new people
I'm from the UK and I was thinking exactly the same thing~
Spain above Lithuania and Russia lol
And no Ukraine like sis
@@olivermcfadden227 Not everyone liked ukraine tho
Iceland AKA Ísland should be number #1
I am still waiting for the 2021 version, you cannot tell me that you won´t be doing it this year
they did this 2 months after the esc last year so i think we need to be patient :P
@@Nyrella I strongly disagree. The ESC 2020 was canceled. No winner, no headlines about the final, no reason to hurry.
Every other reactions were published one week after the final:
05/19/2017
05/18/2018
05/24/2019
I think they would have to do it quite recently after the show cause social media spoilers
POV: you're still waiting for the 2021 edition
Right?? This is unacceptable! We are waiting almost 5 months and no sign of a 2021 edition!
Now I realize how different the Americans and the Europeans taste...
In europe, it needs to be uniqe and creative - originality is the key
(even athnic...)
However, the americans prefer more radio friendly style music.
Well it kinda makes sense. Just another radio song aren't enough after several decades
not all americans are the same tf
@@pixeled9683 I am talking about culture, of course not all americans are the same...
I don’t agree, looking at people’s Eurovision tops you can see how much people’s opinions vary just in Europe, everyone has different opinions and who’s to say Americans wouldn’t enjoy the ethnic ones ?
"This is like their Adele"
Adele is European??
yes! Adele is British!
@@starlight2622 isn’t that also Europe
@@starlight2622 geographically that's still Europe
@@emma-iz9mf britain involved in eurovision
@@emma-iz9mf yeah britain is europe and always will be. Its only that they left the union because of financial reasons
POV: your waiting for the 2021 edition, but are also scared about the Americans discovering Måneskin
THIS!!!!!
I mean, I'm my country we don't call them americans, apart from that, I agree
Why would you be scared of that? Do you not want more people listening to them?
😂😂😂🤣
We need a REACT to 2021. Its an annual tradition by now and I can't wait to watch it.
If it’s a tradition why haven’t you made a 2021 video HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEED THIS
"You don't have to be dancing in a music video"... It wasn't about filling screen space. It was about creating a viral dance to which anyone can dance. Easy and fun
Totally agree. Like seriously, what do you think they were gonna do on stage? Just stand in one place? No! They made sure all of Europe remembers our country🇱🇹
European has different artistic approach compared to USA. As an asian, I mostly find europeans as more artistic, while the US is more commercial.
matters who you're talking about, if you mean popstars then yes
When you do eurovision 2021, you should add a part where they react to the televoting results because it was DRAMATIC this year.
but first they would have to see all performances from the final and I don't think they're going to do this
Well that never happened :/
please can't wait to see the 2021 version!!
This year's final is really strong
They totally should do a react 2021 about the whole show. Eurovision is more than just the songs the voting is also a big part and super iconic
and let's not forget the eurovision tutorials from Nikkie
So 2021? Come on i've been waiting for this for a long time.
Hurry 👏🏻up 👏🏻we all👏🏻👏🏻 want👏🏻 the 2021 reaction👏🏻
This video just shows why Americans must never have a vote in eurovision.
Just the initial top 8 have some very dubios options.
especially with their population, their choices would easily overpower an entire continent.
It would literally be an extremely unfair advantage. sure European countries have their own advantages but with this they literally might as well hand the trophy over to americas first choice if America ever participated straight away.
@@Milkpastasoup popular votes in eurovision arent number of population based though, its always a set amount. So, no, the american population wouldn't overwhelm the voting system unless you're considering OFWs, at which point the Eastern Europe bloc would be mostly unaffected anyways. Plus biases already exist in the competition so w/e
They can have a vote and participate. My problem is that knowing Americans, they would either take it way too serious or not pay any respect to it at all. And they would probably demand more than one vote because they have such a big country.
Yeah I really didn’t get the picks behind this, Norway, Spain, UK, Sweden and Germany over Italy, Bulgaria, Azerbaijan, Switzerland and Romania?
MAN CMOOON! I'VE WATCHED THE OLD REACTIONS LIKE A MILLION TIMES CAUSE YOURE TAKING TOO LONG DOING THE 2021 ONE! :C
Can they at least make a statement why they aren't doing this year?
I'd absolutely LOVE a 2021 edition!
We need the 2021 edition like yesterday! Get on it,damn it!
2021 was the best Eurovision show we had in years. It is quite sad that you guys didn't react to it. 😭 Hope you do it soon, followed by a reaction to Eurovision 2022 which is around the corner.
I'm waiting so hard for the reaction of 2021. Pleaseeeeee! I can't wait for it
WE NEED THE 2021 REACTION!!!
10 days and still no react to ESC 2021 😱😭
Love how i check this video every so often to see if they finally did 2021 and then i see other comments demanding 2021 so i know it hasnt been made yet xD like come on. i was rooting for italy since day 1 so i really wanna see other people reacting to them, finland, and some of my other faves. let's go already lol
Same.. But I guess they forgot
@@peterrabbitn787 or they are waiting for pandemic to be over
I still haven’t gotten over the fact that’s there’s no 2021 react
The fact that Americans never have the same “winning” song as Europe, like here Iceland’s song is going really viral and it’s super popular
Same. Iceland won our unofficial Swedish poll.
Who else is waiting for react to Eurovision 2021?
Me
mee
Absolutely everyone
It's time for 2021, Italy slaped this year
YES
This is the first time that I have watched Eurovision and it was because of Italy
And I'm from Poland
I watched on the night but yeah it was Italy's fault I got totally obsessed.
Lmao don't americans know that 2021's contest was held already 2 months ago or whats the deal
As a European I can tell y'all, Sweden definitely WOULDN'T have won 😂
true! they are really good but its really unlikely
as a swede i agree, not even a top 5 or maybe a top 10 in my opinion
oh at all. it wouldnt even be in the top 15 imo
God of Fiji nah I reckon it would’ve got in the top 10. I liked it a lot ( as an Irish person ) and I always complain that the jury is up Sweden’s ass 😂 I love them though nearly every year - controversial opinion is that I prefer move over heroes 🤷🏻♀️
@@RoisinColette totally agree!!
still patiently waiting for the 2021 reaction ahhhhhhhhh
I want to see them lose their minds when Shum comes on!
Saaaame I keep checking back lmao
When you are not the only one waiting for 2021 edition...😁
C'mon USA! Europe is waiting...
Well that is how they treat tradition
This is probably the only Eurovision ranking ever where Spain will be in the top 10 😂😂😂
and UK
And uk
They would be disqualified
Deserved, Canto Blas 👑
*iceland plays*
Every european: “YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS”
The fact that they did spain, uk and norway instead of songs like the once from switzerland, serbia and others who are wayy better, shows they dont do their resource correctly
Exactly! Serbia's song was the biggest bop in my opinion it was very good.
As a brit I was genuinely surprised when I saw the UK, but yes I agree we shouldn't have been there
@@jetdoggaming4694 in some way i like uk's songs but ive never thought of them as in the top 10
I AM EXPECTING YOUR 2021 REACTION!!! CANT WAIT!
If americans would vote, yeah it would've been Sweeden BUT the actual winner would be either Little Big or Iceland
Or so many other good unique artists, like Lithuania or italy
@@honooryu5374 There are a lot of unique artists and I certainly haven't checked them all! I just think that based on general favorites
@@MikaMoonlight oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't disagreeing with your points, just agreeing and giving examples of these exact points
@@honooryu5374 It's ok, don't worry! We sadly can only make bets of who would've won, let's just wait for 2021 to see all these amazing artists perform!
@@MikaMoonlight yeah, let's see if we can make it to 2021 first, but I'm excited already
Just waiting for 2021 reaction 😵💫
Seeing that the fbe super ranking put UK 2nd reminded me that Americans just don’t understand eurovision😂
They just used Spotify reproductions, I imagine UK people did the same that Spanish people, listen to their own song a lot haha
Still a lovely song, not in my top 8, but I liked it
Oh yep
just here to join the "PLEASE react to the 2021 eurovision ASAP!!!" -fam because the ESC was sooooo great this year!
Russia, Iceland and Lithuania is everything we love about Eurovision
A bit disrespectful to show only 8 countries when you have no clue what would be the top 8, top 10 or whatsoever in the actual live contest. I believe all countries or almost all of them have videos (either music videos or of their performances in the national contest) so there's no excuse to discard some of them.
Yessss exactly especially that the UK is here lmao
Imagine how many views their 2021 esc reaction will get (if they eventually make it) after all of that hype.
FBE WHERE IS 2021 REACTION?!?!? I HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE MAY.
Same
''it looks like Sweden would've win this year's Eurovision"
Europe: no❤️
They thought the same last year :'D hahaha
Wdym, we always win Eurovision 😂
I remember back in early March, being convinced we'd win with Dotter........ Pour one out for Bulletproof.
The mamas wasn’t our best. Dotter should’ve been sent. We wouldn’t have won with The Mamas
@@greenstr1ke470 but dotter cant sing
Am I the only one that was shocked that the United Kingdom was shown but not Switzerland??
Yes, thank god you're here
Yesss
I'm sorry but a true Eurovision fan would never put Spain and UK in this top 8. Italy, Bulgaria and Romania should be in this list.
Who voted these? 😂
exactly! I do not even remember Spain's entry.
Romania yes yes
It's from spotify streams
i'm probably the only one who loved spain's entry lol
Please dont forget switzerland
Haven't watched this in a long time but I can't believe you showed UK in this list instead of Switzerland😒
Also, sidenote, where that 2021 reaction at?
I cant believe they had Spain, Sweden, and The UK in the top 10 but not Romania, Azerbaijan, Switzerland, or Bulgaria like what
Hahahaha are u joking
Romania 🔥🔥
I mean they didn’t even show those :/
FBE: Europeans wanted Sweden to win this year
Europeans: No😂...
ha so true , it was really bad
Sad other Europeans have decided not to vote for Sweden just bc they have won many times before. We should get the cred we deserve
@@malvzh9971 its not about that its just that songs like iceland lithuania and russia would absolutely dominate sweden because its just better
@@samtimmers5094 I think it’s sad that each is now about who has the weirdest performance and not the best
@@malvzh9971 im swedish and iceland and russia was so much better
WHERE IS EROVISION 2021 REACTION;;;;;;;;;;;
clearly they aren't reading the comments on this video anymore. we should comment on all the new ones until they get the message.
i think they will not make the 2021 anymore, what is a shame
Off guys.. come on..we are waiting for your reaction to ESC 2021:((
It’s a shame they didn’t show them Bulgaria, Malta, Switzerland, Azerbaijan, Romania and Italy and they chose UK and Spain instead. Since the contest was cancelled, at least show them the favourites
Totally agree!!
+1
That was a bummer. I wanted to see them react to the favourites. Like check the odds, ogae, etc instead. Spain and the UK had no place in there!
👏👏👏AGREE WITH ALL OF MY LOVE (you see what I did here).... LIKE A RIVER RUNNIN' WILLDD EVERY BROTHER MOTHER CHILD, NOW WE FIND EACHOTHER....
Azerbaijan is where it's at
Italy da
WHERE IS THE 2021 REACTIONNNNN
I'm still waiting for ESC 2021...
Who the hell ranks the UK number 2? You know NOTHING of Eurovision.
yeah...it would probebly not even hit top 10....
And Sweden would not have won....at best top 5
This year's entry wasn't the worst but second place is waaaay off.
Yeah everybody hates UK, so zero points
SafiraK I think we would have had another bottom 5 place but not last, and a few countries like Spain, Czech and Sweden giving us a small amount of points. We did do well in Sweden and Iceland's preview shows, but I don't trust them because Armenia didn't do well in these shows, and, whilst I know it was the song that was most there to divide, something UK has a fear of doing because of that "no one likes us" excuse, I have plenty of reasons why I think Armenia would have been top 3, became a televote fave, and fared well in both lists.
@@nikolaia.9573 but we make the best music in the world :)
Waiting patiently for eurovision 2021 reactions
americans are like... sweden would win...
Europeans are like... Russia or Iceland
No joke, think about things is now one of if not my favourite song in general!
Can we please get an explanation why there never came a 2021 eurovision reaction video !!!???
We all coming back waiting for Eurovision 2021 reaction.
Surely every European seeing this is wondering how the U.K. are in the top 8 lol. And im from the U.K. 😕
yeah uk hasent made a good song in a long time dude
victardo official they have just its very political
victardo official the sweedish guy who came second in 2019 was literally english and wrote the song for the english guy
😅
@@donthaveaname4879 He didn't came second. Second place was Mahmood, from Italy.
PLS WE NEED THE 2021 REACTION
GIVE US 2021!!
They aren't even gonna do 2021 i guess, even jesc 2021 passed and eurovision season started. Don't get your hopes up because their "favorite tradition" isn't this anymore lmao
Where is this year's reaction 😭
I'm confused, UK and Spain? They are OK but Israel, Latvia, Switzerland, Ukraine and Malta are soooo much better
WHERE IS 2021 EDITION?
I'm so surprised that nobody recognised Iceland from the tiktok trend. Is it only an European tiktok thing?
Yeah
Waiting on that 2021 reaction. Also, please include the Eurovision romance between Efendi and Tix!
with the eurovision 2021 reaction you should also react to the televoting votes reveal bc it's full of memes haha
2021 is missing!! It has been 3 months…
It's time for 2021 surely????
Still waiting for the 2021 reaction
Still waiting on the reaction for 2021
when is ESC 2021 coming???
@OnlyBadbleeps they mean when will they react to it
Eurovision is actually
Sweden Vs Rest of Europe.
For real though
How about Spain or UK vs the rest of Europe
I think it's safe to say we're getting a Eurovision 2022 reaction (based on their Community post), but I really REALLY hope we get some sort of Eurovision 2021 reaction as well. That show was iconic and had so many good songs.
Which post
@@peterrabbitn787 on their community tab they asked which performance from Eurovision 2022 was our favourite.
@@JordiVanderwaal thanks! Guess they need views and subscribers (I ended mine due to 2021 not being done)
@@peterrabbitn787 yeah I still don't know why they didn't react to Eurovision last year. After losing so many viewers (this channel I mean) you'd think they'd react to things that are gonna get lots of views, but no. ._.
And Maneskins wins Eurovision 2021
DO 2021 SO I CAN TRASH THE AMERICAN OPINIONS AGAIN 🗣🗣🗣
2021??? This year was so good please guys
This list was questionable. They should've picked the top 10 songs that the experts were predicting to do great and then have them ranked by your team. United Kindom was preeetty far down, but because it's UK people are gonna listen to it on spotify, so that system is not really fair.