Hey everyone, just a quick heads up! I am going to be out of the country on vacation for a little while so I apologize if it takes me a little while to respond! Episodes will still be scheduled and be up at the normal days and times. Since I have to schedule episodes in advance though, if you are a new Patron that needs to have your name added to the credits, I won’t be able to add your name in until after the episode on the 29th. My apologies for the inconvenience!
I wonder if Tree of Perdition could also sneak its way into the deck? Since it is a 0/13, with the card Triskaidekaphobia, you can literally instantly murder someone!
That's what I was expecting to see, after he dropped Triskaidekaphobia. Plus if you swap it's toughness with someone that has like 500 life, you just tap it again and target yourself...
Pol Bulano Salto They changed the rules, you can have non commander color identity cards in your deck. And like, if you can't tell like black cards were all over the deck. Unless you meant Tree of redemption, which is a green card. But like I never meant that thing anyway. Edit: Correction, no they didn't change the rules you can only have commander color identity cards in deck feelsbadman
Adam Xue yeah only problem is that’s the only time you would want to drop someone’s life that low since you depend on others having higher health for you to steal
The commander's Quarters True, but other wise it is a slow make your opponent 13 life and you gain like a lot of life, but it is two turns and it isn't so reliable. And it is worse when you make it a low life through switching with yourself, makes removing it then super easy. Eh, I guess if someone really wants to tech this in in case of an all else fails situation they can do that? Maybe one copy, you can probably fit that in somewhere as like a miracle draw I guess. Always remember, your grandpas deck has no pathetic cards, and does contain the unstoppable exodia XD As long as you believe in the heart of the cards, I am sure you can exodia someone with it XD It is also a massive blocker, since if you like, take 500 life points from some opponent, usual means of just putting -X-X and hitting it won't work so well. That said no protection against destruction effect tho. This brings up the question, what if you try this odd piece with like, the defender deck, where your defenders can attack and deal damage equal to toughness? You find a way to make it unblockable and suddenly a giant tree swings at someone with 500+ attack XD Gosh that is awesome XD
squirtle turtal I gave check Apparently they didn't, but I always heard they did so I assumed so. But Tree of Perdition is a black card so it can be run either way since it does belong in the color identity.
This is actually, by far, my favorite commander. I have a much less budget version of Selenia and I've never once played her and not had fun, even if I lost the game. I can vouch for you that you definitely take people by surprise when piloting her, especially if they've never seen her before. She usually gets shrugged off and I get left alone until an Axis of Mortality or Reverse the Sands just ends someone's life. Though playing a Beacon of Immortality targetting an opponent with Tainted Remedy on board has to be one of the funniest ways to win a game. Keep up the good stuff, Mitch!
Its weird to find something this cool so early. No doubt this is going to get huge because I found it through recommendations which means YT has found the correct audience metrics and is spreading it fast. Can't wait to see what you do for the future!
Man I found your chanel through a TCG player advert. Theese deck techs are amazing. My playstyle when you win by a cheap full of commons commander deck against the original dual land havy optimized ones. I will build this.
The deck worked last week. I managed to combo off one opponent and almost win the game. Let's see how it will work this week Thanks again for these budget decks. They are maizing source of ideas. :-)
Once upon a time I got a beat up Selenia for free from a card shop, so I built around it. There were not as many effective (and affordable) life total play cards at the time so it ended up falling pretty flat. Newer stuff like the golden pig and triskadecaphobia really warp the game. One of the cards I ran in the deck was Lich. Also really beat up. Lich is the granddaddy of high risk high reward type cards. Boomerang becomes lethal, but you can draw out your deck. Some brave soul will use this list with lich’s mastery and win or lose it’ll be a story moment for their playgroup.
Very much enjoy you have a heavy handed deck. I'm had Child of Alara once. That deck list is now over $1,000.00. This was a nice memory refresher. Love seeing her as many people don't build around her very well.
I love this deck. Mine also runs hatred, tainted sigil, bolas citadel, children of korlis, eternity vessel, platinum angel, beacon of immortality. The deck is a blast!
Children of korlis for a life reset and for some life dumps: wall of blood or immolating souleater. And run exquisite blood.Comboing it with sanguine bond means that if you gain a life or an opponent loses a life you win(exquisite blood is a bit expensive though) thanks for reading!
When I started this video I was like, "What on Earth is this commander?". Then when I finished I was like, "WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS COMMANDER???" Fantastic tech! I actually just added Cryptolith Fragment to one of my artifact decks. No idea that card even existed
This video was pretty good. I'm definitely interested in building it. This channel has enabled me to build six fun decks to every good stuff deck out there.
I'm running a similar deck to this with Ayli at the helm. It's less about one-shot-ing opponents and more about getting huge amounts of life with cards that profit from that (Serra Avatar, Minion of the Wastes, Aetherflux Reservoir). But one of the prime cards in that deck - albeit on the more expensive side - is Exquisite Blood. Might be an interesting addition to this deck as well.
I love my Selenia deck. It's rather similar. Hadn't concidered Faith's Shield, so thank you for that card recommendation in particular. Here are some budget cards that I like in my deck: Tainted Sigil, Felidar Sovereign, Children of Korlis, Righteous Aura, Glacial Chasm.
Great video. My favourite deck tech yet. I was a little surprised there were no extort cards in this deck, I think they would be a great way to finish off the opponent once they were at 1 life.
A great upgrade that doesn't break the bank (its 16 cents at the moment) is leech ridden swamp. You tap it and a black mana to deal 1 to all opponents. Could be a good closer after trading life with an opponent.
Good cards to add: Necropotence, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Mischievous Poltergeist (cheap flying creature that has pay 1 life: regenerate), wall of blood (pay 1 life: get +1//+1 until EOT).
What about Holy Day? It’s the white version of Fog. Then you can stay at 1 life for a combat phase without needing to kill everything. Most Wraths are sorcery speed, so a cheap way to not instantly die might be effective.
Near-Death Experience(in play)+Evra, Halcyon Witness (in play)+Bile Blight and all you need is four colorless manna, little bit janky, but might work .
I love it!!! I was thinking of such a deck, but never thought of Selenia. I actually still don't like her regarding optics, but maybe I will think about her again
Originally I tried building the deck with Ayli at the helm, but switched out a good portion of the cards and found it was much more effective with Selenia
Mitch how could you do this to me, i LITERALLY spent 5 hours last night deciding between buying one of the decks after waiting 2 months to save the money. and then you release this sick as hell deck in my favorite colors LESS THAN 20 HOURS OF ME SPENDING ALL MY MONEH aAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg. I still love you but this cut me real deep mitch. This WILL be the next thing i spend any amount of money on i swear to Christ. You make the best decks and I'm grateful to even be able to play one now. But orzohv is my fav guild and this deck is so sweet i cant wait to try it out. Have a fun time abroad and hope you come back safe. Thanks for the great content! (btw the first deck i got was the nezzahal deck, wanted my first commander deck to be the first one you put up as a namesake, so ill always remember it.)
+++++++++yea no problem anything to support what your doing. I added some cool stuff like wash out, rebuild and trailblazer boots to put my own spin on it. The major change i made was adding some utility lands since the manabase was monocolor. How many utility lands would you say is a good number without disrupting the deck? I was thinking 8 because the mana requirements weren't as demanding. Thanks for the advice!
This is probably my favorite deck so far! Sadly I don't think my meta would support this deck very well, so I'm not sure if I will build it, but it's definitely the most out there win con so far.
I don’t use FB/Twitter, but my all-time fave commander is Nekusar the Mindrazer, group slug goodness, would love to see a vid on it! Keep up the quality content
My fave deck is Nekusar, combo splort. Load up on multi draw and board wipes then lay down draw damage cards like Spiteful Visions, Underworld Dreams, Fate Unraveler; then Wound Reflection and Nekusar. Insert favorite “all players draw” mechanic and watch the pain unfold. I just love how much people hate him even when he’s the least threatening dude at the table ^_^
This is one of the deck I ve always wanted to build, the only thing I don't like about this version is that there are wayyyy too many boardwipes, I know you have to protect yourself but with these many it can easly make you even more of a target and can be pretty boring for everyone. Maybe instead we could have other cards to low your life total or to protect yourself in other ways(for example with spheare of safety or more creatures). I know we have a very little budget but maybe we can try change some of them and trying to go in another direction, at least for the big removals
Id love to see a goblin deck with Krenko as its commander (Im new and I love goblins and Krenko, Mob Boss seems like a good commander for a goblin deck)
Saw this after seeing the newly leaked BW angel commander from Commander Legends. At first I thought that new card was some kind of beefier Selenia, but after seeing this, I realized Selenia decks would work in a completely different way.
I love this idea for this deck and I'm definitely going to get it, but I am wondering what cards would you replace with the reasonable upgrades you mentioned?
In my opinion: Nihilistic glee ->Phyrexian unlife The card is slow and having no cards in a control deck is a death sentence. Phyrexian unlife would allow us to slip into lower life totals without fear. kirtar's wrath ->oblivion stone Too often just a 6 mana board wipe while oblivion stone would allow us to destroy everything except what we want to leave on the field. Political opportunity. Cataclysmic gearhulk ->austere command Gear hulk allows players to choose what to keep while the command allows us to clear problems currently on the field. Planar outburst ->wrath of god Cheaper board wipe and less chance to leave survivors from landfall decks. Hallowed burial ->terminus Cost more mana but has a chance to be miracled for a white Moonlight bargain ->decree of pain Bargain could cause us to pay 10 or less life to look for certain cards we want with any cards we don't need or want loss to the graveyard while decree could remove smaller creatures if cycled and draw us cards if casted.
@@marvellegacy7677 thank you so much!! I have all the cards and have been testing on untap but couldn't figure out the best config on my own. just getting into mtg because I wanted to play EDH with my friends
I know its been about 3 years since the premier of this deck, but I just bought all the cards I need for it and wanted to try it out because I think it is still cool. Question though (and I don't know if it has been answered or not in the sea of comments): I have the reasonable upgrades mentioned in the video, does someone know which cards those upgrades would replace? Thanks ahead to any of the answers I may get.
In my opinion: Nihilistic glee ->Phyrexian unlife The card is slow and having no cards in a control deck is a death sentence. Phyrexian unlife would allow us to slip into lower life totals without fear. kirtar's wrath ->oblivion stone Too often just a 6 mana board wipe while oblivion stone would allow us to destroy everything except what we want to leave on the field. Political opportunity. Cataclysmic gearhulk ->austere command Gear hulk allows players to choose what to keep while the command allows us to clear problems currently on the field. Planar outburst ->wrath of god Cheaper board wipe and less chance to leave survivors from landfall decks. Hallowed burial ->terminus Cost more mana but has a chance to be miracled for a white Moonlight bargain ->decree of pain Bargain could cause us to pay 10 or less life to look for certain cards we want with any cards we don't need or want loss to the graveyard while decree could remove smaller creatures if cycled and draw us cards if casted.
Wonder if Caves of Koilos would be a good land to throw in? Helps manipulate your life total while fixing mana on a card that I think is only a few bucks. Gotta be careful with Phyrexian Unlife though since it is dealt damage
I love the life utilization in this deck. Cards like Purgatory and Unspeakable Symbol can certainly find a home here. And Murderous Betrayal would serve double duty in this deck. I'm currently building a deck inspired by the soon the released Experimental Frenzy. The premise of the deck is to create an infinite mana loop and then cast all of the spells and win. I've settled on Aminar, Soul of Elements as the commander. But I'm not certain if I should have Alluren in the deck, both for budget reasons and because opponents may benefit as well. Any tips or insights would be appreciated.
The Commander's Quarters thank you for being so interactive with these comments. I can send you my proposed deck list if that help you with any assessment.
"Whenever we exchange our life total with someone's higher life total, that actually counts as gaining life." Mitch, I'd like someone proof as to how this is true for triggered abilities (sanguine bond), because some people in my playgroup will not want to go along with it when it comes up due to first learning the rule. A counterexample I could think of is how hexproof works with boardwipes becauae they aren't targeting. The boardwipe says "destroy all", whereas the Axis of Mortality doesn't have to explicitly say that "you may gain life".
An interesting combination would be a Midnight Guard equipped with Viridian Longbow before you bring your life total to 1 and then cast Repay in Kind. You can deal 1 damage to the next player and anyone who plays a creature you can shoot with the bow.
Do you think Gideon of the Trials would be a good addition? You could get the emblem out and as long as he's there, you can set your life to 0 whenever you switch life totals, instantly killing an opponent. Would keeping Gideon alive be the bigger problem, or are there enough ways to wrath the board of creatures to protect him? Also, this protects you if you were to set your life to 2 or 1, only for someone to play an instant that finishes the job before the life exchange ability goes off, since you couldn't lose the game anyway.
I think you could also include cards to go the other way. Like aetherflux reservoir + Rhox Faithmender and Boon reflection or alhammarret archive so that you can get a ton of life or with aetherflux lower it and nuke someone to then swap with someone else
I've been working on finding a non fork combo build of Kalamax the storm sire, it focuses on bounce, card selection, and pump spell, (win con being commander damage sort've an alternative way to think of voltron. Basically ramp to hit Kalamax turn 3 using any 1-2 mana ramp then use bounce to protect your board or remove blockers. If Kalamax is safe then copied pump spells like titanic growths or run a muck can let you kill players on turn 4 or 5 with the right set up. I really enjoyed the idea of a spell slinging dinosaur but I felt like the fork combos and counter spell version of the deck was really boring compared to how this one can play. I really enjoy playing this deck in paper I would love to see your interpretation of the deck because I've only been playing for a couple years and I'm not super familiar with older or less popular cards but you never fail to find amazing cards that I've never heard of before. Anyways keep up the amazing content can't wait to see what you make next.
it seems to be up to 50 $ now for this deck. Also, Walking Ballista would be good here, get all 3 oppents down to 1, cast ballista for 6 (3/3) then ping them all for 1. I'm sure there are other good cards too. I guess we see that in the break the bank episode for this.
You done a deck tech on experiment kraj? High combo rate, low cost creatures both mana wise and monetarily. The only expensive upgrades you might need are seedborn muse and, draw, and protection spells.
n my opinion: Nihilistic glee ->Phyrexian unlife The card is slow and having no cards in a control deck is a death sentence. Phyrexian unlife would allow us to slip into lower life totals without fear. kirtar's wrath ->oblivion stone Too often just a 6 mana board wipe while oblivion stone would allow us to destroy everything except what we want to leave on the field. Political opportunity. Cataclysmic gearhulk ->austere command Gear hulk allows players to choose what to keep while the command allows us to clear problems currently on the field. Planar outburst ->wrath of god Cheaper board wipe and less chance to leave survivors from landfall decks. Hallowed burial ->terminus Cost more mana but has a chance to be miracled for a white Moonlight bargain ->decree of pain Bargain could cause us to pay 10 or less life to look for certain cards we want with any cards we don't need or want loss to the graveyard while decree could remove smaller creatures if cycled and draw us cards if casted.
A card to consider for this deck is Glacial Chasm (scryfall.com/card/me2/229/glacial-chasm) - It essentially prevents you from being attacked and allows you to get your life total as low as you want it before switching. I've seen Glacial Chasm, Phyrexian Unlife, and Soul Conduit used as the win condition in a control deck before. The guy basically just locked down the field until he was set up, and then handed out 0 life totals like candy.
Is there a way to make this deck a bit more resilient against a consistent playgroup? This deck looks amazing as a surprise, but my playgroup also watches this channel and this deck can be laid low by some burn spells. Avoiding bolt is easy enough, but bigger instants may pose a problem. Also, how does Norn's Annex/pillow fort and exquisite blood work in this deck?
@@TheCommandersQuarters Fantastic thank you! Also I'm really surprised and appreciative of your quick replies to so many of these comments and of course your videos!
This deck looks hella fun, I'm gonna build this myself honestly. Also for an upgrade you can also play damnation (all be it 5 times the cost money wise) over WoG if you have it, but why not play both xD
How do you activate her ability more than one time? Do you respond to the "return to owners hand"-effect with the same effect before it resolves or what?
I love this deck way more than I should. I have been slowly upgrading it through trades, and such... If you're looking for an upgrade path to take over time which, I think, sticks with the theme and feel of the original decklist here's where I've taken it. It's a ton of fun -- tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-12-18-selenia-dark-angel/?cb=1544035252
You should be ;) I have this deck but with less wraths and more targeted removal and draw along with a much higher budget because I loved it so much when I first saw it. Some fun cards are Hatred to 1 shot an opponent, angel's grace/teferi's protection to stay alive and kill people by being at 0, exquisite blood to combo with sanguine bond, necropotence because it's even better in this deck then others which is insane, Boseiju to make the big sorceries uncounterable, cabal coffers + urborg for mana ramp. I could go on but this should be sufficient
I loved the clever twist on the messing with life totals, usualy that is just a lot of lifegain, that said, do you think you could make one of those budget decks with traditional lifegain ?? I have tried but cant realy get the budget down with oloro decks
@@TheCommandersQuarters i feel like you read my mind sometimes kkkkkkk,this chanel has realy got me into budget deckbuilding in commander, even made a ghave deck that makes infinite mana and tokens on some sweeet combos with ashnod's altar draws the whole deck while doing it from smothering abomination (or some other things) then kills everyone with blood artist for a little over 50 bucks wich was quite the improvemente for someone that could not figure out how to get under a hundread dollars and that was mostly tanks to you so thanks a lot dude
I'm building the Sram deck with a couple of the recommended upgrades, as well as athreos God of passage, how do you feel about putting approach of the second sun and other such "anti-fun" cards in commander decks which is generally veiwed as a fun casual format?
@@TheCommandersQuarters That makes sense. I was just wondering about it because paying life is a good thing in this deck and stuff. I usually don't mine little nonbos like that because they don't often hit tge board at the same time but it's up to you
I wanna see this Selenia in Angel tribal black white angels it would be a neat tribal because their are black angels. Is she the only legendary black white angel?!
I have been thinking about building a deck like this for a while, and I would recommend adding a plague of rats. It’s a life auction, 1 life = 1 rat. Drop you life to zero, give it away, and now you also have between 1-40 rats.
You mean Plague of Vermin. And those cards never go beyond you. No one else will care to pay a large amount of life like you would want to (especially after seeing how many wrath effects you are playing with,) and if they did, you are giving them more dudes to hit your empty field on top of what they got to stick. You also are removing your pool of opponents life totals to swap your low life total with.
Hey everyone, just a quick heads up! I am going to be out of the country on vacation for a little while so I apologize if it takes me a little while to respond! Episodes will still be scheduled and be up at the normal days and times. Since I have to schedule episodes in advance though, if you are a new Patron that needs to have your name added to the credits, I won’t be able to add your name in until after the episode on the 29th. My apologies for the inconvenience!
Have fun on vacation!! I'm loving this channel. I'll become a patron now, don't mind getting added later. 😄
Can the next commander deck bee Thanatos the warweaver
Wiatt Cariveau thank you for your support!
Gage Griffith you never know who is coming up!
Also the second you started talking about life total I CALLED Axis of Mortality as the Golden Pig.
I played against this deck once. I had lightning bolt good times
Haha that can happen, but luckily most decks don’t run direct damage
My goblin deck runs 4 goblin grenades. Always fun blowing 2+ goblin grenades at someone’s face when they don’t expect it🤑
@@jayg9283 in commander?
I'm running Dawn Charm against that. Pretty versatile, but that "Counter target spell that targets you" is a lifesaver.
Angel's Grace is also a good answer (and a flavorful one, too).
Apostles blessing fits in really well with the lose life control theme by offering protection, it even fits the budget.
Best uprade for this deck (not even too expensive) = necropotence
Johann Pöhland - great call on a very reasonable upgrade!
If you're in black you should have necropotence anyways. At least imo
Ad nauseam
Wait, which version of this card? The newer one?
@@hemogoblin3076 Sadly not a budget option anymore.
Keep making amazing videos and you'll climb your way up the ranks to rival other mtg youtubers.
Thank you! Let’s hope!
@@TheCommandersQuarters weird to see your one of them now
I wonder if Tree of Perdition could also sneak its way into the deck?
Since it is a 0/13, with the card Triskaidekaphobia, you can literally instantly murder someone!
That's what I was expecting to see, after he dropped Triskaidekaphobia. Plus if you swap it's toughness with someone that has like 500 life, you just tap it again and target yourself...
Pol Bulano Salto
They changed the rules, you can have non commander color identity cards in your deck.
And like, if you can't tell like black cards were all over the deck.
Unless you meant Tree of redemption, which is a green card.
But like I never meant that thing anyway.
Edit: Correction, no they didn't change the rules you can only have commander color identity cards in deck feelsbadman
Adam Xue yeah only problem is that’s the only time you would want to drop someone’s life that low since you depend on others having higher health for you to steal
The commander's Quarters
True, but other wise it is a slow make your opponent 13 life and you gain like a lot of life, but it is two turns and it isn't so reliable.
And it is worse when you make it a low life through switching with yourself, makes removing it then super easy.
Eh, I guess if someone really wants to tech this in in case of an all else fails situation they can do that?
Maybe one copy, you can probably fit that in somewhere as like a miracle draw I guess.
Always remember, your grandpas deck has no pathetic cards, and does contain the unstoppable exodia XD
As long as you believe in the heart of the cards, I am sure you can exodia someone with it XD
It is also a massive blocker, since if you like, take 500 life points from some opponent, usual means of just putting -X-X and hitting it won't work so well.
That said no protection against destruction effect tho.
This brings up the question, what if you try this odd piece with like, the defender deck, where your defenders can attack and deal damage equal to toughness?
You find a way to make it unblockable and suddenly a giant tree swings at someone with 500+ attack XD
Gosh that is awesome XD
squirtle turtal
I gave check
Apparently they didn't, but I always heard they did so I assumed so.
But Tree of Perdition is a black card so it can be run either way since it does belong in the color identity.
That is actually very unique, fun and triggers PogChamps all around the table. Two thumbs up!
This is really cool. I'm astounded by how not terrible these extremely cheap decks are!
Haha well thanks
This is actually, by far, my favorite commander. I have a much less budget version of Selenia and I've never once played her and not had fun, even if I lost the game. I can vouch for you that you definitely take people by surprise when piloting her, especially if they've never seen her before. She usually gets shrugged off and I get left alone until an Axis of Mortality or Reverse the Sands just ends someone's life. Though playing a Beacon of Immortality targetting an opponent with Tainted Remedy on board has to be one of the funniest ways to win a game. Keep up the good stuff, Mitch!
Haha that’s awesome! Another great way to surprise kill. And thanks!
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Mostly important: you also ganis protection. So you can play this as a reaction too lightning bolt.
Its weird to find something this cool so early. No doubt this is going to get huge because I found it through recommendations which means YT has found the correct audience metrics and is spreading it fast. Can't wait to see what you do for the future!
Well thank you sir! I’ll take that as a compliment from you and from TH-cam haha
Man I found your chanel through a TCG player advert. Theese deck techs are amazing. My playstyle when you win by a cheap full of commons commander deck against the original dual land havy optimized ones. I will build this.
That's awesome!
The deck worked last week. I managed to combo off one opponent and almost win the game. Let's see how it will work this week Thanks again for these budget decks. They are maizing source of ideas. :-)
@@dezsomodos1314 glad you are enjoying the deck!
Since I can’t play some commander with my friends, it looks like the next best thing is to watch some old deck techs
Once upon a time I got a beat up Selenia for free from a card shop, so I built around it. There were not as many effective (and affordable) life total play cards at the time so it ended up falling pretty flat. Newer stuff like the golden pig and triskadecaphobia really warp the game.
One of the cards I ran in the deck was Lich. Also really beat up. Lich is the granddaddy of high risk high reward type cards. Boomerang becomes lethal, but you can draw out your deck. Some brave soul will use this list with lich’s mastery and win or lose it’ll be a story moment for their playgroup.
Absolutely! Those types of cards are hilarious to build around and can be surprisingly powerful
Very much enjoy you have a heavy handed deck. I'm had Child of Alara once. That deck list is now over $1,000.00. This was a nice memory refresher. Love seeing her as many people don't build around her very well.
Yeah it took quite a few iterations to get it right haha
I have a similar selenia deck but I also used Necropotence and Exquisite Blood as two of the upgrades
Nice!
I love this deck. Mine also runs hatred, tainted sigil, bolas citadel, children of korlis, eternity vessel, platinum angel, beacon of immortality. The deck is a blast!
These videos are so great. Its great to see deck techs that are less than precons and more focused as well. Keep it up
Thank you and will do!
This looks like a ton of fun. Building this to keep a bunch of decks around for board game nights.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Children of korlis for a life reset and for some life dumps: wall of blood or immolating souleater. And run exquisite blood.Comboing it with sanguine bond means that if you gain a life or an opponent loses a life you win(exquisite blood is a bit expensive though) thanks for reading!
I just wish Exquisite Blood was cheaper :(
When I started this video I was like, "What on Earth is this commander?".
Then when I finished I was like, "WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS COMMANDER???"
Fantastic tech! I actually just added Cryptolith Fragment to one of my artifact decks. No idea that card even existed
This video was pretty good. I'm definitely interested in building it. This channel has enabled me to build six fun decks to every good stuff deck out there.
That's awesome!
I'm running a similar deck to this with Ayli at the helm. It's less about one-shot-ing opponents and more about getting huge amounts of life with cards that profit from that (Serra Avatar, Minion of the Wastes, Aetherflux Reservoir).
But one of the prime cards in that deck - albeit on the more expensive side - is Exquisite Blood. Might be an interesting addition to this deck as well.
I love my Selenia deck. It's rather similar. Hadn't concidered Faith's Shield, so thank you for that card recommendation in particular. Here are some budget cards that I like in my deck: Tainted Sigil, Felidar Sovereign, Children of Korlis, Righteous Aura, Glacial Chasm.
Oh, and Vizkopa Guildmage.
All great considerations!
I was just talking about this deck with my playgroup at my lgs. Thanks for the tech!
Nice! And no problem!
Great video. My favourite deck tech yet. I was a little surprised there were no extort cards in this deck, I think they would be a great way to finish off the opponent once they were at 1 life.
Blind obedience would probably be the one I would consider since it’s harder to deal with than a creature, and it won’t be affected by your wraths
Dude thank you I'm not building this deck atm but I'm building a esper deck and you made realize some of these cards would be good in it
Nice!
other fun shenanigans with life totals: Tainted Sigil, Eternity Vessel + fetch lands, Evra, Halcyon Witness
and Arbiter of Knollridge
Yep all fun ones!
A great upgrade that doesn't break the bank (its 16 cents at the moment) is leech ridden swamp. You tap it and a black mana to deal 1 to all opponents. Could be a good closer after trading life with an opponent.
Good cards to add: Necropotence, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Mischievous Poltergeist (cheap flying creature that has pay 1 life: regenerate), wall of blood (pay 1 life: get +1//+1 until EOT).
Great cards to consider. I prefer just using Selenia as the life setter, but that’s just my playstyle!
What about Holy Day? It’s the white version of Fog. Then you can stay at 1 life for a combat phase without needing to kill everything. Most Wraths are sorcery speed, so a cheap way to not instantly die might be effective.
True! But you can only deal with one opponent's comat phase, and you need to survive for 3 of them!
Near-Death Experience(in play)+Evra, Halcyon Witness (in play)+Bile Blight and all you need is four colorless manna, little bit janky, but might work .
Janky but fun haha
I love it!!! I was thinking of such a deck, but never thought of Selenia. I actually still don't like her regarding optics, but maybe I will think about her again
Originally I tried building the deck with Ayli at the helm, but switched out a good portion of the cards and found it was much more effective with Selenia
Man you're KILLING IT with these deck techs! Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Will do!
I got my signed Boar token for being a patron today! Thanks for the great content, keep it up! I'm looking forward to seeing where the channel goes.
Thanks for your support! And will do!
Mitch how could you do this to me, i LITERALLY spent 5 hours last night deciding between buying one of the decks after waiting 2 months to save the money. and then you release this sick as hell deck in my favorite colors LESS THAN 20 HOURS OF ME SPENDING ALL MY MONEH aAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg. I still love you but this cut me real deep mitch. This WILL be the next thing i spend any amount of money on i swear to Christ. You make the best decks and I'm grateful to even be able to play one now. But orzohv is my fav guild and this deck is so sweet i cant wait to try it out.
Have a fun time abroad and hope you come back safe. Thanks for the great content! (btw the first deck i got was the nezzahal deck, wanted my first commander deck to be the first one you put up as a namesake, so ill always remember it.)
Haha I am sorry. And thank you! Glad you have the OG deck to remember that start of it all
+++++++++yea no problem anything to support what your doing. I added some cool stuff like wash out, rebuild and trailblazer boots to put my own spin on it. The major change i made was adding some utility lands since the manabase was monocolor. How many utility lands would you say is a good number without disrupting the deck? I was thinking 8 because the mana requirements weren't as demanding. Thanks for the advice!
8 seems like a good amount!
I really have to say that this channel is AWESOME! Thanks for your videos!
Well thank you for your support!
I love these videos so much. I'll try and make make most of the decks you've posted and try them out with my playgroup!
Id pair up Solemnity and Phyrexian Unlife just to prevent that -1 counter stuff, but thats just me. Another wicked deck Mitch! Have fun on the vaca~
Coming back here from the future. I've heard your mention your Selenia deck a few times, you should play it on an episode of close quarters.
Built this with some upgrades of my own. It's a lot of fun!
What a great idea! Seriously considering just buying this wholesale on tcgplayer
Nice!
I do believe Evra, Halcyon Witness🙊would be awesome in this deck
Swap life w Evra then swap ur 4 life w opp and u got a big beater to
Very high risk, high reward!
This is probably my favorite deck so far! Sadly I don't think my meta would support this deck very well, so I'm not sure if I will build it, but it's definitely the most out there win con so far.
Glad you like it!
So many board wipes, you sir are a monster.
I love it.
Haha I love that I had to "Read More" to see that
Michael Bay Masochism Switch... Beautiful
I once theory crafted 5 color board wipes.
I don’t use FB/Twitter, but my all-time fave commander is Nekusar the Mindrazer, group slug goodness, would love to see a vid on it! Keep up the quality content
Will do! You never know!
My fave deck is Nekusar, combo splort. Load up on multi draw and board wipes then lay down draw damage cards like Spiteful Visions, Underworld Dreams, Fate Unraveler; then Wound Reflection and Nekusar. Insert favorite “all players draw” mechanic and watch the pain unfold. I just love how much people hate him even when he’s the least threatening dude at the table ^_^
I just picked up a Selenia yesterday. Thanks for some suggestions!!
No problem!
This is one of the deck I ve always wanted to build, the only thing I don't like about this version is that there are wayyyy too many boardwipes, I know you have to protect yourself but with these many it can easly make you even more of a target and can be pretty boring for everyone. Maybe instead we could have other cards to low your life total or to protect yourself in other ways(for example with spheare of safety or more creatures). I know we have a very little budget but maybe we can try change some of them and trying to go in another direction, at least for the big removals
Yep definitely a direction to go with a little more budget!
Wow! Awesome! As usual though. This deck is very very very mean to play. I want it! Now!
Haha yep!
Love your channel. Please keep doing what your doing. Its great and amazing. Everyone need to sub to you.
Thanks!
Id love to see a goblin deck with Krenko as its commander (Im new and I love goblins and Krenko, Mob Boss seems like a good commander for a goblin deck)
Definitely a great commander for a goblin deck!
You could also use ZoZu and punish people for playing lands
Saw this after seeing the newly leaked BW angel commander from Commander Legends. At first I thought that new card was some kind of beefier Selenia, but after seeing this, I realized Selenia decks would work in a completely different way.
I love this idea for this deck and I'm definitely going to get it, but I am wondering what cards would you replace with the reasonable upgrades you mentioned?
In my opinion:
Nihilistic glee ->Phyrexian unlife
The card is slow and having no cards in a control deck is a death sentence. Phyrexian unlife would allow us to slip into lower life totals without fear.
kirtar's wrath ->oblivion stone
Too often just a 6 mana board wipe while oblivion stone would allow us to destroy everything except what we want to leave on the field. Political opportunity.
Cataclysmic gearhulk ->austere command
Gear hulk allows players to choose what to keep while the command allows us to clear problems currently on the field.
Planar outburst ->wrath of god
Cheaper board wipe and less chance to leave survivors from landfall decks.
Hallowed burial ->terminus
Cost more mana but has a chance to be miracled for a white
Moonlight bargain ->decree of pain
Bargain could cause us to pay 10 or less life to look for certain cards we want with any cards we don't need or want loss to the graveyard while decree could remove smaller creatures if cycled and draw us cards if casted.
@@marvellegacy7677 thank you so much!! I have all the cards and have been testing on untap but couldn't figure out the best config on my own. just getting into mtg because I wanted to play EDH with my friends
You could also put in Evra halcyons witness to bring yourself down to four immediately
You definitely could! Only issue is that with this build we want to constantly wrath.
You come up with some great strategies! Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you! Will do!
I'm in love with this deck.
Glad you like it!
Top tier quality content, you already are one of the best mtg youtubers 👍
Thank you!
I know its been about 3 years since the premier of this deck, but I just bought all the cards I need for it and wanted to try it out because I think it is still cool. Question though (and I don't know if it has been answered or not in the sea of comments): I have the reasonable upgrades mentioned in the video, does someone know which cards those upgrades would replace? Thanks ahead to any of the answers I may get.
In my opinion:
Nihilistic glee ->Phyrexian unlife
The card is slow and having no cards in a control deck is a death sentence. Phyrexian unlife would allow us to slip into lower life totals without fear.
kirtar's wrath ->oblivion stone
Too often just a 6 mana board wipe while oblivion stone would allow us to destroy everything except what we want to leave on the field. Political opportunity.
Cataclysmic gearhulk ->austere command
Gear hulk allows players to choose what to keep while the command allows us to clear problems currently on the field.
Planar outburst ->wrath of god
Cheaper board wipe and less chance to leave survivors from landfall decks.
Hallowed burial ->terminus
Cost more mana but has a chance to be miracled for a white
Moonlight bargain ->decree of pain
Bargain could cause us to pay 10 or less life to look for certain cards we want with any cards we don't need or want loss to the graveyard while decree could remove smaller creatures if cycled and draw us cards if casted.
@@marvellegacy7677 Thank you for your opinion. This is helpful and I greatly appreciate it man!
@@Grethmic no problem
Wonder if Caves of Koilos would be a good land to throw in? Helps manipulate your life total while fixing mana on a card that I think is only a few bucks. Gotta be careful with Phyrexian Unlife though since it is dealt damage
Definitely a great reasonable upgrade to throw in! (Couldn’t find a place for it in the budget)
really interesting deck. sharing with friends for sure
Thanks!
I love the life utilization in this deck. Cards like Purgatory and Unspeakable Symbol can certainly find a home here. And Murderous Betrayal would serve double duty in this deck. I'm currently building a deck inspired by the soon the released Experimental Frenzy. The premise of the deck is to create an infinite mana loop and then cast all of the spells and win. I've settled on Aminar, Soul of Elements as the commander. But I'm not certain if I should have Alluren in the deck, both for budget reasons and because opponents may benefit as well. Any tips or insights would be appreciated.
Good considerations! And very cool! Would have to look into it further
The Commander's Quarters thank you for being so interactive with these comments. I can send you my proposed deck list if that help you with any assessment.
Absolutely! It may take me a while to get to since I’m on vacation but I will get to it eventually
"Whenever we exchange our life total with someone's higher life total, that actually counts as gaining life." Mitch, I'd like someone proof as to how this is true for triggered abilities (sanguine bond), because some people in my playgroup will not want to go along with it when it comes up due to first learning the rule. A counterexample I could think of is how hexproof works with boardwipes becauae they aren't targeting. The boardwipe says "destroy all", whereas the Axis of Mortality doesn't have to explicitly say that "you may gain life".
An interesting combination would be a Midnight Guard equipped with Viridian Longbow before you bring your life total to 1 and then cast Repay in Kind. You can deal 1 damage to the next player and anyone who plays a creature you can shoot with the bow.
Definitely an interesting combo but might be hard to consistently pull off!
Do you think Gideon of the Trials would be a good addition? You could get the emblem out and as long as he's there, you can set your life to 0 whenever you switch life totals, instantly killing an opponent. Would keeping Gideon alive be the bigger problem, or are there enough ways to wrath the board of creatures to protect him? Also, this protects you if you were to set your life to 2 or 1, only for someone to play an instant that finishes the job before the life exchange ability goes off, since you couldn't lose the game anyway.
Yep! A great reasonable upgrade!
I absolutely love your vids. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Wot, I just realized that you can use triad of fates in combo with O stone. She puts fate counters on things too
This is by far the most interesting brew yet! Keep it up.😁 edit: I am planning to build this one
Thanks and awesome!
This looks actually fantastic. Next commander deck when I have the budget for it :)
Awesome!
Very good Deck and good video. im currently working on Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle. not on a budget mind you, but should be fun
Nice!
I think you could also include cards to go the other way. Like aetherflux reservoir + Rhox Faithmender and Boon reflection or alhammarret archive so that you can get a ton of life or with aetherflux lower it and nuke someone to then swap with someone else
I think that’s definitely a strong idea for a deck, but it would benefit from a different commander and a different strategy.
I've been working on finding a non fork combo build of Kalamax the storm sire, it focuses on bounce, card selection, and pump spell, (win con being commander damage sort've an alternative way to think of voltron. Basically ramp to hit Kalamax turn 3 using any 1-2 mana ramp then use bounce to protect your board or remove blockers. If Kalamax is safe then copied pump spells like titanic growths or run a muck can let you kill players on turn 4 or 5 with the right set up. I really enjoyed the idea of a spell slinging dinosaur but I felt like the fork combos and counter spell version of the deck was really boring compared to how this one can play. I really enjoy playing this deck in paper I would love to see your interpretation of the deck because I've only been playing for a couple years and I'm not super familiar with older or less popular cards but you never fail to find amazing cards that I've never heard of before. Anyways keep up the amazing content can't wait to see what you make next.
it seems to be up to 50 $ now for this deck.
Also, Walking Ballista would be good here, get all 3 oppents down to 1, cast ballista for 6 (3/3) then ping them all for 1. I'm sure there are other good cards too. I guess we see that in the break the bank episode for this.
3:33 hehe, I'm gonna play Noyan Dar
(please make a decklist for him)
Oh and Noyan Dar would be very interesting too
Haha you never know!
I just bought all the cards for your Vaevictis and Jodah decks, now I want to do this one too😭
Haha I’m sorry
Great content as always!
Thanks!
You done a deck tech on experiment kraj? High combo rate, low cost creatures both mana wise and monetarily. The only expensive upgrades you might need are seedborn muse and, draw, and protection spells.
Not yet! Would be fun!
Kool really interesting commander and gameplay
Thanks!
What about Thrashing Wumpus? A 3BB 3/3 beast with a Pestilence included!
Great effect to deal 1 damage across all creatures and players.
Great effect! I just stayed away from creatures in the deck since I want to wrath the board a ton
@@TheCommandersQuarters oh, yeah, all those wraths. Silly me. ^^'
Keep up the amazing work man also would be awesome to have subtitles so I can watch well I’m working or in a public place
Once I make this into a full time gig I may have the time to do that :)
What would you cut for decree of pain, phyrexian unlife, and oblivion stone?
Depends on your playstyle and meta! My recommendation is to try the deck out as is, and then make adjustments based on your preferences!
another great video my friend. pretty neat deck too.never really thought of her as a good commander ither lol .great job man. 👍😎🤗
Thanks!
What cards would you take out for the reasonable upgrades?
n my opinion:
Nihilistic glee ->Phyrexian unlife
The card is slow and having no cards in a control deck is a death sentence. Phyrexian unlife would allow us to slip into lower life totals without fear.
kirtar's wrath ->oblivion stone
Too often just a 6 mana board wipe while oblivion stone would allow us to destroy everything except what we want to leave on the field. Political opportunity.
Cataclysmic gearhulk ->austere command
Gear hulk allows players to choose what to keep while the command allows us to clear problems currently on the field.
Planar outburst ->wrath of god
Cheaper board wipe and less chance to leave survivors from landfall decks.
Hallowed burial ->terminus
Cost more mana but has a chance to be miracled for a white
Moonlight bargain ->decree of pain
Bargain could cause us to pay 10 or less life to look for certain cards we want with any cards we don't need or want loss to the graveyard while decree could remove smaller creatures if cycled and draw us cards if casted.
@@marvellegacy7677 this helps, thanks a lot!
A card to consider for this deck is Glacial Chasm (scryfall.com/card/me2/229/glacial-chasm) - It essentially prevents you from being attacked and allows you to get your life total as low as you want it before switching. I've seen Glacial Chasm, Phyrexian Unlife, and Soul Conduit used as the win condition in a control deck before. The guy basically just locked down the field until he was set up, and then handed out 0 life totals like candy.
Please do a Brago, King Eternal. I love blue white, and the whole flickering theme of the deck. But right now a viable deck seems so expensive!
A great commander! You never know who is coming up!
Fun deck. Do you have any videos of decks that knock out all players in one turn
Lyzolda, Zacama, Jhoira to name a few!
these videos are so well made
Thanks!
A budget chaos/coin flip commander might interesting to try to make
Most definitely!
Is there a way to make this deck a bit more resilient against a consistent playgroup? This deck looks amazing as a surprise, but my playgroup also watches this channel and this deck can be laid low by some burn spells.
Avoiding bolt is easy enough, but bigger instants may pose a problem. Also, how does Norn's Annex/pillow fort and exquisite blood work in this deck?
Yep pillow fort would work with the deck. And to make it a little more resilient maybe add some cards that give you hexproof like Orbs of Warding
@@TheCommandersQuarters
Fantastic thank you! Also I'm really surprised and appreciative of your quick replies to so many of these comments and of course your videos!
It's the least I can do! Thanks for watching them!
thank you for saving both my pride and my wallet! your the best btw iv been watching you since your first budget deck tech.
Thanks for your support from the beginning!
This deck looks hella fun, I'm gonna build this myself honestly.
Also for an upgrade you can also play damnation (all be it 5 times the cost money wise) over WoG if you have it, but why not play both xD
Haha hey if you already have it, put it in!
How do you activate her ability more than one time? Do you respond to the "return to owners hand"-effect with the same effect before it resolves or what?
I don't understand that part either
Yep pretty much!
Cool
I love this deck way more than I should. I have been slowly upgrading it through trades, and such... If you're looking for an upgrade path to take over time which, I think, sticks with the theme and feel of the original decklist here's where I've taken it. It's a ton of fun -- tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-12-18-selenia-dark-angel/?cb=1544035252
Time stamp for reference of price: 15:01
Soon as I saw the switch life effects I suddenly became very scared.
Haha it happens
You should be ;) I have this deck but with less wraths and more targeted removal and draw along with a much higher budget because I loved it so much when I first saw it. Some fun cards are Hatred to 1 shot an opponent, angel's grace/teferi's protection to stay alive and kill people by being at 0, exquisite blood to combo with sanguine bond, necropotence because it's even better in this deck then others which is insane, Boseiju to make the big sorceries uncounterable, cabal coffers + urborg for mana ramp. I could go on but this should be sufficient
Soooooo optimized then?
I loved the clever twist on the messing with life totals, usualy that is just a lot of lifegain, that said, do you think you could make one of those budget decks with traditional lifegain ?? I have tried but cant realy get the budget down with oloro decks
One may be coming down the pipe soon ;)
@@TheCommandersQuarters i feel like you read my mind sometimes kkkkkkk,this chanel has realy got me into budget deckbuilding in commander, even made a ghave deck that makes infinite mana and tokens on some sweeet combos with ashnod's altar draws the whole deck while doing it from smothering abomination (or some other things) then kills everyone with blood artist for a little over 50 bucks wich was quite the improvemente for someone that could not figure out how to get under a hundread dollars and that was mostly tanks to you so thanks a lot dude
I'm building the Sram deck with a couple of the recommended upgrades, as well as athreos God of passage, how do you feel about putting approach of the second sun and other such "anti-fun" cards in commander decks which is generally veiwed as a fun casual format?
Definitely could be another card to put in for some good times!
I think you answered your own question mate; 'anti-fun cards' in a fun/casual format....
So now I don't know whether to build this or the rakdos one. Would Erebos be a good card for this?
Would have to test it! Might be counter productive though with something like Tainted Remedy
@@TheCommandersQuarters That makes sense. I was just wondering about it because paying life is a good thing in this deck and stuff. I usually don't mine little nonbos like that because they don't often hit tge board at the same time but it's up to you
I wanna see this Selenia in Angel tribal black white angels it would be a neat tribal because their are black angels. Is she the only legendary black white angel?!
That would be cool!
Tariel, Reckoner of Souls and Atraxa are both legendary angels with both Black and white, but Tariel is Mardu and Atraxa is 4color-red
You gonna gain a lot of subscribers worldwide in a year :)
I have been thinking about building a deck like this for a while, and I would recommend adding a plague of rats. It’s a life auction, 1 life = 1 rat. Drop you life to zero, give it away, and now you also have between 1-40 rats.
A great card to consider for the deck if you want to take it in that direction!
You mean Plague of Vermin. And those cards never go beyond you. No one else will care to pay a large amount of life like you would want to (especially after seeing how many wrath effects you are playing with,) and if they did, you are giving them more dudes to hit your empty field on top of what they got to stick. You also are removing your pool of opponents life totals to swap your low life total with.
That's a good point, the main reason I recommended Plague is because it is an efficient way to drop life.