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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ค. 2023
- Here's why I've cancelled my Volvo which is being produced this month...
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Makes sense. Quite surprised the dealership was not willing to work more with you considering you have been such a loyal customer. I think they are being spoiled a bit by demand right now and forgetting to do right by customers.
Loyalty means nothing anymore
It's all about the mighty buck!
I know my Volvo dealership completely forgot about its customers when it changed to a Kia dealership in early '99. At first, they kept selling and servicing Volvos alongside Kia's but after a few years, even that was slowly phased out. I soon began feeling like an intruder whenever I would occasionally go in for a part for my Volvo. So, after being a Volvo dealership since '63 they have now turned their back completely on that brand. The nearest Volvo dealership to me is now over 300 miles away and in a different country! So, no more Volvos for me!
I wouldn’t have skipped the BLIS, I’ve had Volvo BLIS since my 2008 XC70. Volvo, and your dealer, should have “helped” you into the ultimate trim as a goodwill gesture to you, a good Volvo customer. I worry about the future of Volvo.
Volvo is no longer interested in customer satisfaction because their sales have increased so dramatically. My experience with ordering my ‘23 V90 Cross Country through the European Delivery Program was an unmitigated disaster. Ultimately I got the car months after the originally scheduled production date, but then Volvo Financial REFUSED to finance the lease because they considered the car “used”, though it hadn’t been driven at all. (My very high credit rating didn’t matter at all.) From ordering the car in August ‘22 to delivery in March ‘23, it was a horrible experience. At the end of the day, Volvo didn’t extend any remuneration or goodwill. What a disappointment!
Volvo has never allowed overseas delivery to be leased. The in service date is when you pick up the car. Would likely not work with the registration aspects, plus most customers wouldn't want to pay for a lease 2-3 months before they can start driving it.
It's cool to be in a comment section with a bunch of rich people. My Volvos are 20 years old and they give me a lot of bliss while driving them.
Welcome! Stay as long as you like.
Ordered my V60'T8 over a year ago. ThunderGray/Dark/Plus. Got a "factory slot a for delivery week 20, which later slided to 24. Last week I got a mail from the salesman, telling me BLIS can't bel delivered. Got 5000SEK (about 440 euro) in compensation. Really disapointed. Not sure yet if I'm going to cancel or not.
having participated in a high speed crash on a french autoroute, blind spot radars should be mandatory nowadays-just as ABs and airbags have gone from premium to standard equipment. That and the "swerve to avoid a collision" feature, which again is often a premium above the "brake to avoid a crash" baseline option. Volvo in particular should be doing better here
You're overestimate the intervention of the BLIS.
Let alone it can't really avoid severe crashes also if you keep you lane assist and use adaptive cruise control it's not much of use on highways.
You'll be forced by other systems to look up behind you.
BLIS can be only useful in cities with pedestrians, cyclist or motocyclist crossing you by to avoid collisions.
Where the drivers as standard should keep the attention very high.
Same problem for me. We ordered 2 XC60 T6 recharge in February with expecting delivery in mid June. After some weeks we received the info that the delivery will slip until mid October 😢. Due to the semi conductors issue!!! We kept our order but disappointed as well
I'm having the same painful issues with an Xc60 T6 Recharge. Been on order since Dec 2022 and it was due in June. However, it's been pushed back to Aug/Sept. I'm about to pull the plug an go for an X3 m40i.
So, did you "pull the plug" on your Volvo purchase?
So sad to hear about your customer experience. All customers are important. But you are also such an important "Volvo missionary". I really like your videos and your comments. Here in Sweden, I have met a completely different treatment from some new car brands/dealers. They are really good at customer focus and customer satisfaction. Good luck with your new choice of car.
Appreciated Goran! Times are changing I guess, but we will be fine. In the end it’s just a car. Until the next car I am enjoying the C40. Thanks for the support! 😊
So clever Thom - good luck with everything 😊
When i was ordering my car i was told by the dealership that BLIS is unavailable due to chip shortage. Not even in Ultimate spec. Maybe it was just for Croatia where for example Polestar is not an option at all.
Volvo downgraded my pixel to regular led due to “chip shortage”, despite still selling it. I got pretty disappointed but I waited 6 months so can’t wait more
Hey Thom, hard decision but you did the right thing IMO. Dealers do not help when the brand is at fault. I guess dealers don't see themselves as representatives of the brand. Also I think that Volvo could do more for their customers in case an option has become unavailable, which it actually isn't because it is stille available on the ultimate.
tesla have shown that you can the dealer out the loop; polestar is volvo's equivalent. any independent dealer right now should be working to retain there value, rather than let their customers down.
As a car salesman, there probably wasn't much the dealer could've done. We're always getting hit when the manufacturer fails to deliver and get blamed for all of it.
@@hiruko1 that's the risk of being a dealer. Customers have a contract with the dealer, not the brand.
First of all, I absolutely agree with BLIS being a must-have, I think all vehicles should be equipped. I've been talking with my dealer about trading my 2022 XC60 T8 (early) for a '24 XC60 Recharge when the U.S. orders open to get the longer range and faster charger. But now I'm told in North America we will not get the faster charger due to incompatibility with the U.S. electrical system. Also learned that the "Bright" version, which we have now with Denim Blue, will not be sold in NA. We think the Dark in Denim looks "cheap" and stripped down. There are many PHEV alternatives to Volvo that have 6 to 7 kW on-board chargers. Faster charging would be a big advantage for me as I often do multiple 30-50 trips in a day with the opportunity to recharge in between, but the slow charger doesn't help much. Looking at various country Volvo websites it looks like there are more options and colors offered as well. Not sure what we'll do, but I'll be interested to see what you finally decide for your next car.
I wonder what the compatibility issue is? 6.4kW is a standard charger.
@@Meatwad650 EVERY..thing, about american infra(structure) & engineering, and cost-factors, is inferior to most of the developed world. I'm a yank, and i've seen, expereinced and gotten sick and tired of this fact, over my over 50 years of life. The US is starting an infrastructure push bcuz we have fallen behind massively, and haven't done even physical infra since 50-80 years ago. Fact is that the US has been passively robbed by itself, by ultraconservative political strategies that were counter to the how and why we became potent in the 1950's and '60's. Rightwing politics has damaged my country, for real, i can testify, as a centrist myself (who also has studied fair bit about policy, history, politics and international politics (at the elite level).
I'm surprised that people feel so strongly about BLISS... Especially canceling an order JUST because of that missing. I've had it in my cars for the last 8 years but hardly notice it, forget about use it
I took delivery of a V60 T6 two weeks ago, which I ordered in Jan 22. Now I had the car, the dealer was much more open in the issues they were seeing. Volvo seem to be consolidating options on all models, just the plus and ultimate now with fewer than ever optional extras. They don't seem able to manage their supply chains one way or another. My MY22 V60 T6 Plus has some missing features that were on the MY19 V60 D4 Inscription Pro I just gave back.
I have a XC60 R-Design early 2022 and same issue With chips. I skipped Bliss and live without it. And hey Head-up display is Nice and not for 60+ only. Great car. Love every trip. 😉
I am shocked that you are getting rid of your C40. I got mine two months ago in part influenced by your C40 video blogs. Anyway all the best to your next car.
Don’t be, it’s a great car and we still enjoy ours. I’m also considering a C40 single motor extended range, let’s see.. 😊
I had the same issue with a XC60 plug In hybrid, paid deposit in February and told delivery was September 1st 2023, I noticed the plus spec had dropped the blis and contacted Volvo, they said they didn’t know and said to contact the dealer, the dealer claimed they we’re about to call me, offered £500 off as no blis or to either cancel or upgrade to top spec at an additional £7500! So I cancelled and am sticking with my V90 diesel inscription, very poor service from Volvo in this instance
If its like a Polestar (which it sounds like) adding all these packs adds substantially to the price and IMO they are too high already..
It's amazing but many of these BEVs have crazy wait times here in Canada. EV6 AWD 2 yrs, Ioniq 5 AWD 18 months, C40/XC40 12 months last I checked. ID4 AWD 18 months. I do like the XC40 RWD option so I wondering about that one. The V60 T8 is very cool but the wait time is 18months as well. But then I haven't checked recently.
In Sweden xc/c40 has 6-8 months but v60 plug-in is 18-24 months. It’s crazy
@@Johan87577 That's interesting. The wait for the XC40 recharge might have gone down since I last checked last summer. It's a very nice design but it's kind of on the expensive side imo. Maybe with the 2024 version they try to include more options to make it more competitive.
I put a deposit on a V60 T8 at a Montreal dealership a few weeks ago. The only trim available for 2024 is the Polestar engineered. I only had 2 days left to choose the color. Scheduled delivery in July. Almost missed the opportunity as another dealership "forgot" to tell me they had NO allocation for the V60 Recharge, despite me showing interest for almost a year and being on a "list" waiting to put a deposit. But yeah, wait times in Canada are awful. It’s a small market for car brands.
Canceling an order is always a disappointment. I know the feeling, I had to cancel a car because production was stopped. Waited 1.5 years. I now have an XC40 recharge on order. When ordered in October, delivery in Q1-23 was achievable. After ordering, this quickly became June, until the production slot was finally announced in September. The dealers cannot issue any serious schedule. And if something is changed from the factory, you can immediately pay extra. The auto industry is screwed up. I hope you find another nice car pretty soon.
almost the same thing happened to me in Czech Republic. ordered a V60 B4 plus (my 2023) back in November 2022, late January I was informed that BLISS got axed. as compensation I was offered either a 800 EUR deduction or 2 extra years of warranty. super disappointed but went with the order and took extra warranty as I couldn't take the risk of delayed delivery. car should be delivered end of May. so yeah, super slow and frustrating
Why would you get a t6 recharge? Those are even more complex and even less reliable
Same experience with my 2022 xc60 t6 recharge. I felt I had no choice but to accept the car without BLIS and keep being annoyed by the fact Volvo keeps using BLIS as a more or less obligatory safety feature in all its commercials. Oh, and I received zero financial compensation! Dealership argued rhe semiconductor shortage was not their fault….
Thats strange Pieter, as the ‘compensation’ is a fixed thing coming from Volvo Cars NL and not the dealers themselves. So that’s kinda weird they come up with that argument..
I have an XC60 Recharge Ultimate on order here in the states. Is this the case for the XC60?? I really hope that they don't cut features that have been available in the 2022-2023 years. Cutting features is a deal breaker for me. Volvo's are pretty stripped down as it is compared to BMW or Mercedes.
Sorry to hear that, it‘s always disappointing hearing that when you look forward to a (new) ordered car! I remember when I got told that my C40 Twin will come without PixelLED. But I kept my order. I think if I would be in your position, I would have kept my order as well, going without BLIS. Our Peugeot e208 has blind spot system as well but it rarely works, but I can live with it so I just switched it off until it gets repaired finally.
I am more surprised actually you considered going from BEV to PHEV. Another brand was no option? If I would need to go for an estate phev, I would take the new Mercedes C300e: better range than V60, DC charging, 11kW AC and better infotainment.
my BMW blind spot radar works wonderfully-it even detects cars coming at speed even when they aren't in the blind spot. where it lets me down is (a) doesn't detect cyclists and e-scooters in town and (b) is disabled when I have bikes on a trailer. the second one is dangerous as you do get used to the radar effectively telling you when it is safe to pull in. bad habits come from safety features once you start to rely on them....
@@SteveLoughran That's one of those things I try to always remember. Safety systems are complementary and you cannot rely solely on them. Since it makes you complacent.
Although an automatic emergency brake system did save me once, I shouldn't have been from the start in the situation where it needed to activate it self. In my case at least, since it was my error
Hello. I had a similar situation. I ordered an XC40 B3 mild hybrid. The seller of VOLVO vehicles in Slovenia contacted me and informed me that it will not be possible to get the ordered vehicle with BLIS. I was offered the same options as you describe in your post. I myself decided to purchase a vehicle without BLIS. With the difference in price, I decided to buy some other additional equipment. I don't think BLIS is that crucial, because the driver's control via the side and rear view mirrors is needed in the first place. I have been a driver for 32 years, I used BLIS for the first time about 6 or 7 years ago. Until then, I drove without it and without many other accessories. And survived. Good luck
Thanks for your thoughts Martin!
so after all these trouble, you still want to buy another Volvo. Why? Would ever consider any other brand?
In december 2022 I ordered a XC60 T6 recharge in plus trim for a colleague and a V60 T6 recharge in ultimate trim for me. For the XC60 I received a mail that they couldn’t deliver it with BLIS. Since it is company car (leasing) they offered to change it with 360 camera. Since the previous car is end of lease soon and the fiscal situation in Belgium has changed since the order (order date determines fiscal situation) we just went with it. My V60 however is only planned in early 2024 and should still have the BLISS. Since I don’t prefer the sports seats I went with the massaging and cooling seats and a few more options.
I was seriously considering the Polestar 3, but it was a tad out of budget (€100 more a month than my V60). Now I think you will get a Polestar 4 for the same budget as the V60, but it isn’t an estate.
Maybe should have gone with the XC60 T8 recharge Ultimate? I got my MY23 (built Nov22) dealer demonstrator 3 months old 800 klm on the odometer, could you not do the same in Sweden?. The "Ultimate" trim level in Australia is the highest level similar to the "Polestar Engineered" level in Sweden (Std 21" forged wheels, B&W sound, stiffer polestar chassis etc.) but without the PE badge and only available in Dark trim, my car was $84k before taxes ($102k drive away (706k KR) I saved $25k (175k KR) off retail.
I think you made the right decision....I'm currently in a some what similar situation with my XC40.....I've had it for two yrs and now I'm tired of it....shopping around currently but in the Volvo lineup I'm not excited about anything...might go with a totally different brand....or wait another yr for the next gen Volvo EX cars....
Understandable and recognize it as well. This week something new is on the horizon from Sweden, stay tuned. Thanks for watching as always; appreciated. 😊
Polestar looks fantastic. What attracted me to Volvo first was the design and they have really carried that forward with Polestar while retaining a lot of the safety DNA.
@@magic_claw I love Polestar as well...though the closest Polestar "dealer" is more than 4 hours away from me. Not ideal. LOL
@@MariaLuise1984 saab is dead, so you mean nevs?
We have a 2024 C40 on order - excepted delivery somewhere end of September - but if we were told the car would come without bliss, 100% we’d cancel. Feature is a must have in any car.
Bad from the dealer to set you up with a bad deal. I do see a Polestar 4 in your future?? At least, that would be my alternative if cancellation was inevitable for selling a car and later telling you you don’t get xyz…
I think PS4 is unlikely as they have a dog, and the PS4 doesn‘t have a window in the rear
I am SO SORRY to hear about your car issues... BLIS in fact I believe all active and passive safety systems on all brands should not be options but standard equipment. Which driver in the world wouldn't want the SAME level of safety for his/her/their passengers?! I am dealing with my own problems as it were... If I want the Fjord blue interior inserts on my C40 then I need to wait 6 months!? So I decided just to go with boring black (what everyone in Taiwan gets) interior 😐. My current 430i coupe cost me so many problems including police brutality when I tried to blow the whistle on what I found out. My new car procurement has been a nightmare to say the least; I will never be able to wipe away the trauma and bullying done to me. I hope the rest is smooth sailing and personally I would go with the Ultimate. In Taiwan we don't even have the dark theme exterior for V60 Ultimate. I'm not sure if they're lying to me or not but they said only possible to order light trim for V60 Ultimate exterior. #willnotbesilenced
I kinda get it. when I got an allocation for a V60 T8 in canada, and told my sales rep we didn't want the climate pkg (heated rear seats, steering wheel, and headlight cleaners), he sounded physically pained. when we took delivery, and the dealership said ours was the only allocation they got for the year, i felt kinda guilty not maxing out the trim... but we had a dollar figure we wanted to hit, more important stuff to spend $ on, and reading the comments, i suppose I should be grateful we got everything on the window sticker.
As a Canadian, I wouldn’t want a Volvo without those things. Intrigued as to why? Shipping it down to a vacation home in the US?
@@TD-zc4zi I wanted to stick as close to 75k all-in as possible. leaving the finance office we were closer to 77k. and in the aftermarket, we've spent another ~5k getting a hitch on it and getting it paint protected.
our family almost never uses the 2nd row. headlight washers are unnecessary in a bright city like Toronto. the only thing we'd have used in the climate pkg was the heated steering wheel, and that was frankly not worth $1,000 to us. we're a people raised on lesser trim toyotas. we're not hard to please.
[also, heated steering wheels used to be a retrofittable accessory in the US market on prior year V60s. the necessary wiring was present in the cars from the factory, they needed only a factory scan tool to unlock the feature once installed. I haven't removed the airbag to check my car, but if it's the same, i expect a used wheel + coding would run me under $500, if i decide i really wanted it down the road]
@@Cal94 Thanks for the detailed explanation. The rear seat warmers felt excessive to us too and I wish that was a separate option. The kids accidentally kick them on and heat up their car seats.
I got my PE a month ago I am totally in love. They called my about the same blizz problem, I want through it just because I didn’t had it on my v40 so a this moment I honestly don’t mis it!
If you want you can try out my PE ‘23 if you want to drive a beautiful car😉 it has a heico body kit and exhaust system now to so it sounds a bit better! Just let me know
Snap je teleurstelling en had een iets meer passende oplossing/voorstel verwacht. Zeker voor de auto die je in bestelling had staan.
In the end I always tell myself: It's just a car.
Same same! 😉
Maybe you could get the Blis retrofitted later on?
Good thinking! Unfortunately that’s not possible. 😭
I orderd a s60 recharge hybrid new first i gota one pole then they called me i can havea two pole then a few weeks later i got called it while be an one pole so my chargingtime will go up from 3,5 hours till 5 maybe 6 hours firts it was 12 hours then 9 then 3,5 then sixen en now 5 hours communication they dont know
Sounds like a good move even though you were disappointed,
Hello, I am in China. Today I saw your video and wanted to tell you that I am in the same situation as you. Here, a new version of the v60 without BLIS, while the previous version has been discontinued. In the end, I returned the v60 and chose the v90cc…
Here, the V60 does not have T6, only B5. Electric cars are very developed in China, but I want to buy my last gasoline car. By the way, the EX90 looks really cool. It combines Chinese electric car technology and Volvo's philosophy very well. I am really looking forward to it.
I don't know about your situation, but in China, selling the V60 does not give dealers any additional commissions. So, the lack of the BLIS chip is probably not a lie. V60 is my dream car, so I share the same disappointment as you and hope that you have better options in the future.
thanks Stan!
I’m shocked that somebody in China is allowed to see TH-cam
My Volvo dealer from Berlin postpon my new XC60 delivery time for another 6 months (till Jan 2024), but they confirmed that it will be with BLIS. Definitely, I tend to wait, because Volvo for me means - all set of security systems. Will see at the beginning of next year.
I agree with you. It's a long wait but worth it. 😊
i was tempted to buy a recharge until i found out it doesnt even have features that a corolla has, ventilated seats and handsfree trunk opening with the sweep of the foot
I have a Volvo with the foot-activated rear hatch door opening, and I had it disconnected because it was always opening when I didn’t want it to, just walking behind the car
Yeah when we got our electric XC40, they said they don't add the BLIS anymore to the PHEV XC40.
Same was told here, phev production also stopped sadly. :-(
Sad news. I hope you’re able to order a Polestar or a cool Zeekr later in the year.
Im really looking forward to Zeekr also, the 001 is tempting... 😉
Je zit gewoon bij de verkeerde dealer denk ik.. mijn pa had een V60 inscription T6 extended range besteld, en toen kwam de 2023 uit. Maar wij hadden de massage stoelen geselecteerd, en dat kan niet op de plus. De plus is het meest vergelijkbaar met onze configuratie toentertijd. En toen heeft onze dealer gezorgd dat we kosteloos een ultimate kregen zodat we wel onze massage stoelen konden krijgen.
Wellicht hadden ze iets proactiever kunnen zijn, anderszijds kunnen zij het ook alleen maar ondergaan, VCC besluit dit uiteindelijk en dealers hebben 0 input hierbij.. fijn he die massage stoelen, haha! 😉
At 6'9, you fit well in the C40
Isnt the BLIS standard in all new volvos? (Confused swede)
It’s not, should be though haha!
@@thom-lov I checked with Volvo, The recharge has it as a standard function. Its included in the Core package in Sweden. :)
@@freedum2702 that's nice! In many other markets is comes from plus and onwards. Really depends on the market itself. Still, should be standard on all lol!
Too bad you didnt just stick with P2 BST. Such a wicked machine!
Haha yeah thought of it as well! 😅
I am disappointed that Volvo would even consider shipping a new car without the BLIS as an option. That is not the Volvo car company that I know. I am ordering a new Volvo for my wife because I want her to have all the safety options in her car. You made the right decisions!
Volvo’s moving away from physical buttons/dials to dangerously asking drivers to take their eyes off the road for long periods to fiddle with a touchscreen for things like climate controls is a testament to the fact that Volvo is losing interest in safety
Why change from C40? According to your previous videos you were really happy with the car...
Certainly still am! It’s a fun car. I’ve always been a fan of the Volvo PHEVs thanks to the very first D6 AWD. Hence the new T6 with 70+km range was very interesting for me still being able to drive 90% full electric but then have that little extra space, better seats (back complaints) and space for the dog(s). For now certainly enjoy the C40 and would recommended it anytime 😊
I placed an order for the same car and told me that the BLISS issues are resolved and mine will be produced week 33, BLISS included…
oh interesting, when did they inform you about that?
Honda in the UK have similar delays in delivery of the new Honda Civic Ordered mine in November 2023 Expected delivery was April 2023. Phone call from Honda dealer in January 2023 explaining that delivery was now put back to July 2023. Phoned dealers last week, they have no information on delivery of the new HONDA Civic Advance model. Will wait until July before making my decision whether to still buy the car !
It has become so difficult to buy a car these days
Oh Thom...can't believe you considered going back to the dark side after the C40. I had the same problems as you, but Volvo have fixed them and I am quite happy. Polestar 3? Polestar 4? EX90?
Sorry for that Steve! Gotta admit, I was pretty upset with the C40 at a sudden moment. The recent OTA's really improved my experience and currently enjoying the car a lot. Up next will surely be a EV Volvo (or polestar... 3 perhaps 😉).
@@thom-lov Good to know your C40 is now performing well. I have my eye on a Polestar 3, or maybe the 4, but I really want Volvo to bring out an EX60.
Sounds like v was trying to push you from plus trim to ultimate and make more $$
As my 2017 V90cc is aging and I like the hybrid idea I have been talking with the dealer about a V60 hybrid. They tell me only 250 are made a year and it would take about a year from when I order to get it. (3 months before it even is on the build schedule.) So your story makes me more cautious. I don't mind a year wait but having things changed in the last few weeks would make me very unhappy. I will look at Audi and Benz to see what their story is.
You did the right thing! 🌞👍👍
think so too! 😉
I'd have expected them to offer you the Ultimate at a discount to sweeten it for you.
Same 😉
Could be worse, they don't even sell them in the UK anymore 😭😭
Such a shame ☹️☹️
Gewoon naar een niet dealer gaan v Tilburg Deurne. Ze bestellen aan de fabriek wat jij wilt en laten hem via waar dan in Europa met alle Garanties komen. Perfect geregeld daar
The fact that you still want a Volvo after all the issues with your other car, tells me how impressive the brand still is to you.
It’s important to not rely solely on aids like BLIS. It may give you a false sense of safety and it will never replace you physically checking your blind spot. The reason the system exists is because of bad drivers, so for those people it is necessary. But for me it will only be an accessory.
For instance I had an Audi A6 and I didnt pay the 500 euros for backup camera because I FREAK OUT when people backup and look down on the screen while manoeuvring the car. You check once in the camera, to check there’s nothing behind you, then you proceed and back up while checking with your eyes.
You are still young...somewhat. be patient till 2025s come out..
Yeah no worries, luxury problem. We’ll be fine 😉
This required a NINE MINUTE video?!
Will try 10 next time!
I have BLIS in my XC40, but found it redundand... No really need for it...
We tend to like it a lot. Anyway, for Volvo being the 'safety' brand, BLIS should be standard on all their cars... Thanks for watching!
I would wait to buy a volvo ex60 that will come ext year
yep good one! :-)
If they have the chips to go in a higher specced car they can just as well put it in a lower specced one
They just don't want to
Also orderd V60 on January by the occassion of some free production slot on April and after a week been informed that Blis is not available. They reduced my Driver Assist Package by the half (twithout Blis and Cross Traffic Alert) and left only Pilot Assist and Active Tempomat. The price has dropped only by 150 Euro. I've been a bit suprised about the small value of Blis and Cross Traffic Alert (wtf, only 150E?!) but , the dealer also informed that final price in the moment of picking up the car from the dealer should be lower after the final recalculation by the Volvo. Yesterday I got a call from a dealer and all it turned out that Volvo left the price the didn't change anymore. Volvo should do something about it because they can loose a lot of reliable clients if they do what they do.
I would have cancelled after a few seconds of you listing all the packs and options. Assuming it was coming with all 4 wheels and something to sit on , the car should come with a better spec or not come at all. It is difficult to imagine why you would pay for the privilege of all of these ‘negotiations’ instead of enjoying a new vehicle. Reminds me of Ford in the 70s, but that was about including a second door mirror and a rear wiper. It stank then and it stinks now.
Go for Mazda CX-60
Good decision IMHO - bit of a side grade that V60
Thx, I’m waiting for the ex30 reveal now 😉
I think you've changed your mind then. If you really wanted that car you should have pull the trigger mate.
The V60 is beautiful, like no other estate or car in the Volvo lineup. EX90 is a truck, EX30 will be interesting but doesn't come close to the SLA chassis of the V60.
BLIS is an unnecessary safety optional, I have an XC40 and can live comfortably without since it has huge mirrors.
I had a previous car, hatchback with BLIS and never really cared.
I do my driving.
Anyway dealer should have been more comprehensive and try to offer a little extra to compensate like free accessories.
Ultimate trim is way too expensive for every model, reasonably speaking they can't offer such discount.
So I wouldn't have be tempted at all.
Demand is high and Volvo is selling strong these days..I understand you were a bit gutted but if you really wanted that car you just go for it.
Appreciate your thoughts Flavio!
Very disappointing Thom. I'm sure you are gutted, your V60 on order would have been gorgeous. It must be frustrating trying to buy a new car these days. Manufacturers seem to be making any excuse not to supply the "right" cars. I suspect it is more to do with transitioning away from petrol and diesel cars. 😒
I'm over 60 years old and certainly do not need 'head-up display'!
Just kidding! 😉
@@thom-lov 🤪
I had a xc60 with allot of infotainmant bugs, system errors and even could start the car. xc60 BY 2023 , android based.
Why would you consider a fossil in 2023?
It was a phev but ok
Because they are still better. And makes more sounds that enhance the driving experience
Because EVs stink 🤢
Good decision! I have a 2022 XC60, and they hired me, it seems, as part time to Volvo dealer. Every week, I have issues with infotainment and computer. I have tens of videos I sent to volvo. I want to give the car back, but Volvo just doesn't care.
I have a very funny email from customer support that I will publish soon.
A shitty car! Do not buy it!
Sorry to hear that, but you probably got scammed basically as the whole thing around the production slots is basically bullshit...I was working few year in automotive industry, not directly with volvo, but with all other manufactures. And I would be suprised if volvo would be using totally different production system. Also the thing about blis being not avaiable for plus, but for ultimate is bullshit too, allt his is so modular these days, you can be assuted that the blis system is totally the same in both trims and could be used in each of them, they just wanted more money from you :/ not cool at all
Plug-in hybrids are this stupid trend that refuses to go away. Not only they're not fun, they're also unreliable and expensive when something breaks.
I’ve owned three PHEVs from three different automakers over many years now… not only are they fun to drive, but nothing has broken any of them… you are clueless
Sounds like a scam, they can’t provide you with what your order because of component shortage but if you upgrade to a more expensive one the shortage disappears!
Im surprised Volvo would sell a car without BLIS given their reputation. Mistake on their part.
Not me, given their callous attitude toward replacing physical buttons/dials with dangerous infotainment-screen controls
Onbegrijpelijk dat Volvo dit niet kosteloos voor jou oplost. Ook zouden ze zelf contact met je moeten opnemen. Je bent tevens een reclamebord voor het merk. Dat ze dan zo met je omgaan. Schandalig.
I would skip the BLISS, at the end you need to be careful on the road and this system is not 100% replacement for your care of the side trafic.
From the other side, the dealership was looking for a sucker to gain more margin on the car, so didn't care about to fight for BLISS in a car you ordered. As they proven, the BLISS is still available but on higher margin cars.
Swedish car....you know it's a chinese brand😂
What’s being 60 got to do with liking a leather dashboard ? “No disrespect or anything” … Does anyone under 60 want some crappy knitted vegan PET bottle dashboard or something ?
Volvo is basically is shit after Chinese bought it so many issues, complete unreliable car. I was thinking to buy one but dude I was going on highway just few weeks ago and Volvo XC40 21 years in front of me broke down while driving. Then i went to forums and read more online buy owners... It basically not a Volvo anymore.
Buy a Volvo 240 🎉
T5R please 😄
Lot's of problems with your C40?
Made in China 👍....
C40 is made in Gent.
Zzzzzzz
How are you still getting a volvo💀 get an Audi, bmw or mercedes
C63 please! 😉
I've been a regular viewer. But you lost me with the ragging on sixty year old Volvo owners. I am 63 - driving an XC90 with a leather tailored dashboard and heads-up display. Unclear why either in your mind is a sign of old age. And frankly, given your knowledge of the industry supply chain shortages continue to affect everything including equipment spec. It comes across as whining that you can't get what you want when you want for as little as you can afford. Can't waste time watching TH-cam victims. #unsubscribed
Everyone likes leather wrapped dashboard, but not everyone can afford it ;)
I always laugh when someone tries to make a big deal about unsubscribing. Who cares? I think you're being a little oversensitive, it's a TH-cam video for chrissake! If you don't like it, move on.
Just a bit of Dutch/sarcastic joking guys. 😉
Someone call the fun police.
Em Portugal está igual encomendei um V60 T6 em Maio de 2022 para entregar em janeiro de 2023 depois adiaram para Outubro de 2023 😮
Treat yourself to something nice. Buy a BMW.
M3 comp please!
Volvo = chinese brand.