I much prefer your type of review to the ones influencers do. Hearing over and over about the infotainment system and 0-60 times gives only minimal insight into how living with a car long-term will pan out.
You reviews are SO COMPLETE with total reviews of engine, trans, and, how they work or not work down to the interior materials quality or non quality. Really appreciate your true honest reviews and I watch them 100% for the entire video! Thanks so much!!
Other reviewers just spit out whatever PR info they were fed during free fine dining press events. This guy knows what to look under the hood. Plus he’s focused on long term ownership, not the idiot proof 3-4 years.
exactly. and so much less shouting. Kilmer has taken the low road now as well with every other video being 'i'm quitting youtube', an 'they are out to get me', and endless clickbait. i've actually blocked his channel because of the BS factor. he used to be great. he threw it away.
@@thecount1001 I totally concur. I stopped watching Kilmer a couple of yrs ago. I learned a lot of great tips from him but now there's a lot of click bait, political crap and Scotty contradicting himself. And all those wild gesticulations just bug me .
I watched several reviews and still the impressions are mixed. The idea of your channel, your reviews is great. That's what a car buyer needs to get (but not every buyer looks for, unfortunately )) while choosing a car. The info (even negative) is provided correctly, but leaving the questions if it is accurate. "Volvo makes only mechanical steering wheel setup" - there is explanation by Volvo, but you don't give it. "Turbo rear placement - strange choice" - there are pros and cons for it, but not mentioned "Spring leaf is metal covered by plastic" - not plastic, nor metal. It is fiber composite, GFRP (produced by german "SGL Carbon") "It is surprise to see a japanese gearbox in a swedish car" - Volvo have been using Aisin-Warner gearboxes since the beginning of 1980s. As a result, there is feeling like watching a... Top Gear episode.
Also, he criticizes things more if it is in a car company he obviously doesn't like. Same McPherson suspension setup is great in Toyota but overly complicated in VW. However, it is literally the same setup.
The rear bumper "hole" is where the optional swing-out/hideaway tow hitch goes. It's more popular in Europe and not as often seen in the North American market. If it were optioned, it would come with an additional button near the rear seat fold down buttons are located.
Too bad Volvo doesn’t exist because their cars are not reliable. Toyota is the only car company that exists, boring or not. But seriously, no luxury car has been worth it since the 90s, am I right?
I remember the old 240 Volvos, they where overly engineered to Nordic standards. They where very solidly built and safety wise was class leading. I would mostly see professional people driving these boxy Swedish cars. They use to have a reputation for long lasting built quality. Even better then the German cars.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I am 59 and I am not 'romanticizing' anything. In its era, the 240 was possibly the safest car on the road. With a typical lifespan 2 or 3 times longer than an average car, they were simply the best value in the automotive world. Of course, today's Volvos would be better to crash but their reliability is worse than average. I am also not going to ignore the ugly reality that the purchase of a Volvo today directly supports the most repressive government in the world. In the days of the 240, money spent on a Volvo supported one of the most progressive countries on the planet. Do I still sound like a Romantic?
The "leaf spring" in the back is actually a plastic composite one, not a plastic covered steel / metal one ;) This has been the case for many many years now on these new generation of Volvos. Yet to have a car with an issue with one, I work at a Volvo dealer.
Hi. I am looking to buy this car but am a bit scared from bad reliability reviews. As a tehnican, can you tell me first hand how reliable is it. Should I stay away? I am just having a horrifying experience with vw, and I really can't afford another lemon. I tend to keep my cars up to 10 years. Thank you in advance.
@@andrejkrusic372 I would generally stay away from these if you are afraid of repairs and problems - there are a lot of problems, everything between the license plates can and / or has gone bad but that's because I work at a dealer - we see so many that our sample size makes us biased. They are however fantastic cars, fantastic handling, look amazing and are very comfortable, so it's a trade off. I'd like to say the tradeoff isn't as big as for a German brand, if you want almost what the Germans brands offer minus some power and are ready to have some problems but not quite as much as the Germans then go for it, otherwise stay away and get a Toyota ;)
@@nesmio7378 Out of 5 german cars I've owned ( outside of a botched oil job leaving no oil causing a valve job later) I've never had a big cost. I buy for ownership and end up with high miles. Those all had port injection and naturally aspirated timing chain engines with rock solid transmissions. I can't see Volvo being more reliable based on what others have said.
I definitely don't get some people's irrational fear of a timing belt. They don't just explode at random. Most people won't even own a car long enough to reach one change interval for the belt. Volvo's newer SPA models have a change interval of 130k miles. If you bought it new, you likely wouldn't have to worry about a belt change for almost a decade (depending on how much you drive). And even then, it's not like changing it requires removal of the engine. For a skilled technician it's a 2hr job. I'm a home mechanic and I can do it in my driveway in a few hours. Oh, and for what its worth, Volvo has been using Japaness transmissions in their cars for at least 20 years. That aside, I agree these are over complicated from a mechanical perspective. Specifically the newer "B5/B6" engines. The previous T5 and T6s were much simpler without the 48v system and are plenty reliable. Admittedly I have only seen a dozen or so of your videos but you seem heavily biased towards Toyota and Lexus. I'd recommend viewers check out these cars themsevles to make up their own mind. The fit and finish of these cars is excellent, the seats are incredibly comfortable and the ride is top notch. If you're into music, the Bowers and Wilkins sound system will blow your mind (1500w and up to 19 speakers). Of course, no car is perfect. But in my opinion, Volvo wins against Toyota and Lexus all day.
Yes, the reviewer is more familiar with Toyota/Lexus. I laughed when he wanted an auto tilt steering column feature in the XC90. I will not correct him, he needs to learn his own and do research. That said I am biased too, we all are. Remember that not all car owners can work on their cars and change timing belt like you and I. Here is my prioritized list. 1. Safety cage built using ultra high strength steel 2. All day seat comfort 3. Longevity 4. Reliability
With mild Hybrid maybe not, but with normal diesel car yes, Volvo is ahead. Japanese cars are not know for diesel cars, they are more focused in Gasoline. @@ln5747
The mechanic is more biased towards Lexus and Toyota because he is a master technician or used to be for Toyota and Lexus until he got his own shop now.
I am a die hard Volvo lover. I owned 3 Volvos in my life. However, maintenance is a huge issue. Not only it is costly, but difficult to find a good mechanic to take care of it. I love the philosophy of Volvo- from its core vale to manufacture cars, to its design language. Unfortunately, reliability and maintenance costs are real drawbacks. Your video allows me to understand why Volvos are not popular.
LOVE the exterior of this Volvo! Don't love the price & unreliability though. I would love to have something like this over an SUV any day. So tired of the overkill of SUVs here in N. America. We need some sporty, reliable & affordable wagons here in N. America already. Hey Toyota, please send us a Camry and a Corolla wagon with all-wheel drive. Thank you!!
The back seat height and plastic back of the front seats is more practical for kids. From a parent perspective. ...they love putting up their feet in the back of the front seat and generally making a mess in their natural habitat... great review.
Re: Rear Transverse Leaf Spring: For clarity, a polymer traverse leaf spring is not the normal leaf springs pack associated with box rail trucks. It’s a performance item that works extremely well, while reducing weight and eliminating need for a spring and a roll bar combo. Note that GM used a rear traverse leaf spring in the Corvette through the C7 series.
@@willr1796you believe an extra $500 in BOM cost to GM, and $1,500 at retail would make or break a Corvette owners’ pockets? If you think that, your idea of a Vette owner’s expendable income and price sensitivity is distorted from reality. GM used a transverse leaf spring because they found with a front engined car, the rear end’s sprung weight didn’t necessarily need a coil over set to to perform equal to a coil x shock combo. The best part was they saved weight and cost.
@@willr1796 MSFT is in Redmond, WA - Alphabet is in the Valley - Amazon is in Seattle (or lately off Pentagon Row), so where the hell do you live? All 3 at there same time 😅 I was in N. LA County 2 weeks ago for business over several days (Santa Monica, Calabasas, Malibu) and then Fremont, SF, and Palo. People there had 992s and RRs as commuters. You claim to live in a fringe environment where brand and panache is more important than value. That doesn’t represent 90% of America or its consumers, nor Vette buyers. Hardly. Vette buyers could care less about the European brands.
one of extreamly few reviews / reviewers that actually talks about the technology behind vehicles (not talking about only useless comments about infotaimnent / how many different massaging modes seats have type of shillings we can see everywhere else)
I bought a new 2016 v60 with the original version of that engine. B420T11 and same 8 speed tranny. Closing in on 95K miles and has been trouble free. General maintenance only. Looks like Volvo got way more complicated now with the mild hybrid system. Glad mine does not have any of those complications.
I got a 2020 V60 T5 Momentum FWD, also before the hybrid motor version discussed here: like you I have had it since then trouble free only maintenance as required by the manufacturer ❤
I've got a 2017 V60 with the plug-in hybrid system. Hasn't had any issues so far, and the savings and flexibility offered by the hybrid system absolutely makes it worth it. Last year had the belt and water pump changed, and that's really the only maintenance it has needed.
I have some experience with SPA Volvos, drivetrain wise, later models, I think 2017 and up are generally reliable, we’ll have to see how much the gen3 VEP 48v hybrid system affects the engine reliability compared to gen2. Also I find it funny that Volvo moved the radar sensor to the grille, on earlier SPA cars (I think up to 2021), the cruise radar is located behind the windshield, next to the camera assembly.
I appreciate you reviewing the mechanical components. Having said that, I am sometimes lost in assessing the final value of the component. I think, 7:20 would be great if after reviewing a part, you could give a grade or simple score based on your opinion.
Back when you reviewed the new Elantra you've mentioned the 2.0T engine of the N variant and how it is a great engine. It would be awesome if you could review an Elantra N or a Veloster N and show us why you think their engines are great. Maybe something as detailed as how you've explained the Toyota's D4S engine would be wonderful!
Hey all FYI 2016-2018 v60s come with this same tranny and similar engine without the hybrid complication presented here. I’m now reaching 95k on my 16 model and no issues other than regular maintenance. Hoping to get another 100 k. So I would recommend the non hybrid model of the v60. They are know as P3 models. Oil changes every 5K that’s the big secret to make these last.😊
9:12 The idea came from an old method of starting a dead-battery- stick shift car by asking your friend /neighbor to push the car while you engage the first gear. Now you don't need a friend/neighbor. 🙂
My LS 460 has been a disappointment compared to the prior LS 430. This car greatly exceeds the complexity and potential for repairs of the burdensome LS 460 (major brake system issues, fussy suspension, fuel system leak, cheap sport trim, failed gasket material, etc.). Can you give us a list of simpler, reliable vehicles that are not going to be total wallet drainers? Your videos are probably saving me because I was considering a Volvo wagon.
Check his channel - he has done a video on which cars are better and which not to buy and in that he says buy the 430 but not the 460 because of the complexity and consequent possibilities for problems.
I bought a factory ordered 2020 V90 Inscription T6 AWD. It just passed 44k trouble free miles. I wanted a true station wagon and, at that time, the only other option was the Benz E450. It was a beautiful car, but almost $20k more at that time. Plus the E450's top-of-the-line front seats were not as comfortable as the V90's for my wife and I. With this said, I expect down-the-road maintenance costs will be an issue.
My 2007 Volvo S80 has the rear door capability to lock all doors from the outside. I also have the last V70 sold in the US, a 2010 V70 R-Design. Love it even with 187k miles on it.
Sir it is a pleasure and an honor to be a subscriber to this channel which took car reviewing to an entirely different level. The amount of information and technical analysis might be unmatched by any other channel in this respect. Highly appreciate all what went into the production of such high quality highly informative episodes. Stay safe.
you can get the molding body colored/painted. I am hoping though next year or so they come out with the EV60 CC. My wife wants one really bad, and should be good for her, since she doesn't drive much. The reason for places with and without Napa leather, is due to protecting the material. The pass through ski locker you wouldn't want it to be Napa leather and the edges of the skis to cut through it. The plastic on the back of the seats, is for our kids to put their dirty feet on. Same with the lower leather on the rear of the head rest. It actually all makes sense once you think that this is a semi luxury vehicle that is meant to be use as a family hauler. I have the 2015.5 XC70 T6 Platinum model, and the leather in it is kitted out through the whole cabin, and my daughter is consistently putting her feet on the back of the passenger seat and spilling stuff. So when you think of estates/avants/wagons, they're meant for use with families that have kids, or dogs that they want to actually use for what it is meant for. Also I would recommend watching this video on the purpose of this vehicle. th-cam.com/video/lg1C81s1PVI/w-d-xo.html
I want more content! Your review and mechanical insight is great! Simple enough to understand for the average Joe but technical enough for nerds to be entertained
I do think it's interesting how you said the air flow from the A/C is subpar. I'm watching this because I have one of these on order. However, I have owned a 2021 V60 and a 2022 S60. The S60 with the same mild hybrid setup has excellent airflow from the A/C. It does get warm very fast when the engine shuts off which is a pain, but you can override that by putting the car in manual shift mode. -- I agree with almost everything you said (and I subscribed!), but having owned 2 of this generation vehicle, they really are quite nice and nice to live with.
I think what you got was a biased and quite uneducated review if I'm honest. A lot of the "oddities" he mentioned, like the 48v system, the leaf spring, the camshaft cover, the oil pump chain aren't odd at all... They're simply unfamiliar to him, someone that specializes in Toyota. It seems like he's quick to believe that Toyota does things the simple or "normal" way and anyone that varies is doing it wrong. As a technician that's worked for Volkswagen and GM Incan say for sure there is no 1 right or wrong way to do it. And the current crop of Volvo's have proven to be very reliable since about 2017.
The review is right on spot. Just bought a new 2024 V60 CC and had the aux belt snapped twice 😢 currently it is in the mechanic. First time they just replaced the belt without much explanation. 100km later, snapped again. I hope they give a better explanation and a proper fix this time. I’m shocked!
That's the good one!! The '21 is a T5, not a B5. It is a world of difference. I have two T5s (2021 S60 and 2022 XC90)--both ultra reliable. As an automotive engineer, I specifically purchased these two Volvos right before each switched to B5.
Suggestion: Display the MSRP of the model reviewed along with where it’s made and some main specs (Engine, trim, MPG, etc) I love these reviews!! This one’s MSRP is $48,000
I Have a 2019 V60 T5 FWD Inscription. Issues since i bought it at 2021. Vibrating steering wheel at 130 km/h - solved Replaced all 4 wheel bearings with new optimized bearings New and optimized lower control arms for both front wheels Possessed Left mirror - solved New mirror control unit inside the left door panel Leaking rusty struts that open the trunk - solved Replaced both struts with new ones Panoramic roof shade was frequently stuck open - solved Replaced the mechanism for opening the shade Upon testing the cables snapped in half and the whole assembly had to be replaced again so it was repaired twice Center console closing mechanism was sliding open when accelerating - solved, now its broken again Front Right engine mount is cracked and needs replacing since 50k km - To Do Car AC is completely dead, no cooling whatsoever, loud hissing from the vents - To Do Rear wiper blade stopped working - solved Changed something and cleaned up the lines Vibrating door panel and headliner noises during driving - solved Disassebmled the door and added some padding Recall for a bursting fuel line So for me, the most unreliable car in history of cars. If i bought an english coachbuilt car i would probably be better off.
As a previous Volvo S60 owner, the biggest disappointment was the backseat. Not a family vehicle as you thought it could be. Their vehicles have no shared legroom, if the driver needs it, the rear passenger does not get any. The reason why I never shopped them again. Except that it was a fun car.
Very interesting. I've been buying and driving exclusively used Volvos. I've found that post facelift, meaning about four years after a model release, Volvos are generally reliable cars. I live in the rust belt and they DO NOT RUST. That is a big selling point.. I don't know how I feel about the post 2016 models for many of the reasons you mentioned.. I own a 2007 XC90, a 2010 XC70, and a 2012 C70 hardtop convertible and they are all tanks. They have a progressive soft to hard steel chassis with a hardened cage around the passengers. I live in coal country. Coal trucks trying to get in an extra load are a real hazard here. The safety and durability will keep me buying the earlier models.
@@willr1796 It is not a special Volvo anymore. Toyota, VW/Audi post 2010 are well rust protected too. Especally the body parts. Honda and Mazda is still 1 or 2 steps behind on rust protection. The trucks and SUV body on frame is different story. However, the safety camera, etc in Volvo is a bit hit and miss. Volvo went bankrupt for many reasons that coincide with the downfall of reliability it has. Too much electronics and complications. Not as simple as it was. Toyota and Honda gets more complicated but still simple in nutshell just like their Hybrid system.
@willr1796 Yes, there are no more things better than commodity Honda/Toyota in any aspect besides the fading name. The sound insulation is indeed still in high level, but Acura and Lexus are high level too. Volvo needs to go back to basic simplicity. With the demand of high fuel efficiency and reliability that American need, it is indeed really hard. Even Honda slipped a bit in the past few years.
2007 V70 2.4 Diesel here. I would say Volvo peaked in the years 2000-2016 with the P2 and P3 platform. They pretty much improved everything going from the "old" Volvos of the 90s but kept them robust simple and reliable. Also Aluminium Valve Cover vs Plastic Valve cover isnt a new or old engine thing my guy... My car is a 2007 and it has a plastic valve cover. I know some VW engines from even earlier that came with plastic valve covers. Now with the new SPA platform cars im still undecided if they are good. It seems that they changed engines from T designation to B designation around 2021 and the older T engine is better.
8 minutes in, and I'm already out!! I wouldn't buy one of these just due to the complexity of the coolant and belts alone! Not to mention everything else!
Volvo doesn’t exist because their cars are not reliable. Toyota is the only car company that exists, boring or not. But seriously, no luxury car has been worth it since the 90s, am I right?
My local Mazda dealer is also a Volvo dealer. When I went it for a firmware update, the line into the service department was all Volvos. My car are the only Mazda.
Thanks as always for these reviews. I was surprised you haven't done any on Subaru when I looked yesterday. Figured you would give an insight on the CrossTrek or another model.
I have owned several Volvo's since I was 18 years old, but do not like Volvo's from around 2010 and up. There was not the same quality feel to them anymore, and lot's of stories about engine issues and electrical issues, so after 28 years, I switched to Toyota and now drives a 2020 Camry Hybrid, which is a very rare car here in Denmark - and in Western Europe generally.
I actually prefer the plastic back on the front seats instead of leather. But having the center console and armrests (doors and rear seats) be some cheapo alternative is such a letdown - that's the part you actually touch every time you drive the car. Additionally, the A/C implementation sounds like its a no-go as a Florida car.
I agree on this one! I have 3 young children. If I had these seats I wouldn't need to buy a seperate cover for my front seats. 😅 Also If it's one thing I know the Swedes know how to do well, it's comfortable seats. Basically every Volvo and back in the day Saab have had amazing seats.
As someone who has spent a lot of time behind the wheel of the S60 and V60 I totally disagree with his opinion of the interior materials mainly the door. The leather on the door panel is quite soft especially when compared to this cars main competitor the A4 which uses thinner feel material in my opinion. The rest of the door is finished in soft touch plastic down to the bottom of the door for both the front and rear doors. In most of the competition like the A4 and C Class they cheap out for the bottom of the door by finishing them in hard touch plastic...
We were really considering this vehicle but was suspicious of the complex cooling system and overall engine packaging. Thank you for confirming my concerns over the powertrain. All the other influencers who reviewed this vehicle all made good points that would be beneficial to someone who is leasing vs buying and keeping long term. This is now off our list.
Very nice review, tyvm for taking the time and effort for this one. The exterior of the V60 is stunning for a wagon, but a timing belt (cam belt) in this day and age is a deal breaker for me, regardless of its good looks. I wish more manufacturers would offer wagons ("estates") today for those of us who don't need an SUV/Crossover, but with a timing chain and NOT a timing belt!
Well, some manufacturers can't figure out how to do a timing chain correctly and those fail catastrophically anyway, in that case I'd rather take a good ol' timing belt. Have one in my 5-cyl Volvo and have never had any problems with it. Most European manufacturers have had issues with timing chains, I'm looking at you BMW...
@@tobias_dahlberg I should have been a bit more specific and said that a timing belt on an INTERFERENCE ENGINE is a hard stop for me in what's now approaching model year 2024. I could live with a belt on a non-interference engine, although I still prefer the longevity and greater peace of mind a chain provides. I do recognize your point though, poor design and engineering trumps reliability and longevity every time.
@@craigcraigster4999 Volvo has never really had any issues with either timing chains or timing belts on interference engines. I wouldn’t worry about it. Have never heard of any catastrophic things happening unless the owner has gone WAY WAY over the recommended mileage for changing the belt and water pump. But yes I see what you mean.
I definitely don't get some people's irrational fear of a timing belt. They don't just explode at random. Most people won't even own a car long enough to reach one change interval for the belt. Volvo's newer SPA models have a change interval of 130k miles. If you bought it new, you likely wouldn't have to worry about a belt change for almost a decade (depending on how much you drive). And even then, it's not like changing it requires removal of the engine. For a skilled technician it's a 2hr job. I'm a home mechanic and I can do it in my driveway in a few hours.
Why would you ever need to remove the cam cover?? There is no routine maintenance requiring removal of upper cam cover. That would imply major engine work, which would indeed require very involved repairs.
It's an AWD car, you pointed out the drive shaft going to the back earlier in the video, then when sitting in the rear of the car you said it has a big tunnel, and you didn't know why !!
Hi, thanks for the great instructive and straightforward content sharing! Could you make a review about Audi A4 Allroad 45TFSI MHEV, model year 2020 or 2021 if possible? It would be great to hear your comments about the engine (its reliability, fuel consumption), the mild hybrid efficiency in this engine, anything in general to be aware of with this car or Audi about this engine and so on. Additionally, I love the fact that you show under the car and comment how they covered or placed things. Definitely one of the favourite sections of the videos 🙌🏻
Hi just to let you know the hole under the rear bumper is for a dissappearing retractable tow hitch. You can get it fitted as an option as new or get it installed after purchase. Almost all Volvos have this as an option going back to the late 90s I think.
Great review, you can't get this sort of technical review anywhere else! I have some familiarity with this generation of Volvos, but not too much with the B-series "mild hybrids". I'm rather in some disbelief at the apparent added complication...why the dual water pumps? Where the previous "ICE" T5/T6 drivetrains have a fully electric water pump which would seem ideal to carry forward to the the B5/B6. Sometimes it's hard to know why engineers do what they do though, we have no idea of their considerations... *edit* just thought to add, the rear leaf spring IS plastic, it's not covered in anything. So it's actually composite material not plastic. Composite is lighter than metal springs, and also does not sag over time like all metal springs do, the rate and height are adjustable with mounting. It's not all upsides but it has it's place. You really can't compare a transverse leaf to longitudinal leaf, which is a locating suspension link, the transverse leaf could not be more different use case. I really love these videos, and at the risk of sounding like an A-hole...I think you could tone down the "mechanic naturally knows everything about how cars are engineered"...sorry I don't know how to say that any other way. Maybe it's just me, I try not to approach things like I already know everything. I really don't mean that to be an insult, I'm here watching, I love the stuff.
Yea, he does have this "I know better than those dumb engineers" attitude... Engineering is unfortunately all about compromise. There's always constraints that need to be taken into account like costs, supply chain and sourcing, parts commonality and god knows what else. I really hate it when someone comes with a "well, why didn't you just do X?" after months or years of design work with no idea of what went in the design. I had to do A because of B, which was caused by C, which came from requirement D and so on...
If the b5/b6 gen 3 drive-e engines do in fact have dual water pumps, the belt driven one gotta linked to the low temp circuit ie: intercooler and hybrid electronic
Volvo has had Japanese transmissions in their cars for a VERY long time. It's not a surprise to anyone who knows Volvos. One of the reasons why Volvo transmissions almost never brake is because they choose reliable and simple transmissions. There have been some exceptions, like when they used a GM transmission that was absolutely horrible.
Love these technical reviews as they provide great research material for potential buyers. They always make me wonder about the design process and how the final specification gets signed off for production. I wouldn't buy a Volvo after Ford ruined the company and it was sold to god knows who. Thank you for the interesting content.
Geely of China owns Volvo and Polestar. The new EX-30 EV is built in China and will be exported to the U.S. under special rules to avoid the "import taxes". Research it and you will learn. Oh, about this car, no way in HE!!,
@@faheemabbas3965 volvo is not going out of business and they're doing well. Geely has helped finance Volvo and their Swedish operation is stronger than it was under Ford.
I always loved the look and style. But man I didn't realize they have a4 cylinder turbo and supercharger on some models. First off has no power. And when I took it on a test ride and found out the motor I said to the sales man "more moving parts more problems" "sounds like a headache"... Salesman smirked 😏
The old low displacement, low-pressure naturally-aspirated inline 6 cylinders look extremely reliable and simple and dependable in comparison to this stuff
It would be great if you could do a mild hybrid system comparison maybe including systems the US doesn't get like the Toyota 48V system or the Mazda 24V hybrid.
Wow thats why i love Honda/ Acura man the Japanese really keep things simple still to this day. Why would anyone buy a volvo these days ? ACURA Are just as luxurious and Reliable simple to fix. Even Lexus
I dont get people talking about volvo reliability issues. In Sweden there are so many, but so many volvos, and I have never seen one by the road side. And I travel around a lot. You see often 20+ years volvos doing just fine.
After the last few years of so many engines with chains having issues (toyotas in that group) a belt is not a bad idea. 150k interval belt that costs less than a chain to service and can't lose tensioner or tensioner rail and be noisy or lose chain and wreck valves.
I've heard similar opinions from Subaru mechanics. The chain-craze is not as good is people think. An engine has multiple parts so the engine has to be serviced anyways.
Honda has been using belts in their V6's for what...almost 30 years? They just redesigned it and its still a belt. Some of the longest lasting engines out there. They also have non-self-adjusting valves that everyone else went away from because it was more maintenance.
I want to like contemporary Volvos, they look really nice and they've got a good selection of AWD models ... but I am a used car buyer, and this vehicle looks like it has something in common with many Euro vehicles; they're beautiful, the drive nice, they're luxurious. They're expensive new, and cheap used.
The less Volvos sold and on the road , the world is a better place for mechanics, whom not only have to do the job but explain the excessive repair costs to disgruntled owners that don’t have the same understanding.
Regarding the back Seats, being 6'3 and family members that are similar high and I have also found that many rear seat, take the new Nissan X Trail/Rogue which also have the same issue. My 2015 model had fantastic rear seats but the new model have the lower ones which made me go to another brand.
Volvo has been using Aisin auto transmission in their D3/D4/D5 units since the mid 2000s. It is only in the D2 where they used the notorious Ford Powershift unit.
Yes, Saab had also been using Aisin transmissions since about the same time as Volvo… In fact this Aisin 8 speed variants are known to be used in many European fwd vehicles like in VW and FCA
Volvo doesn’t exist because their cars are not reliable. Toyota is the only car company that exists, boring or not. But seriously, no luxury car has been worth it since the 90s, am I right?
27:24 low seats are for fold flat cargo space, but i agree, most Volvo seats are too low at the rear seat padding is too thin and uncomfortable for me since they don't have any recline and sit too upright.
Can you please do a video reviewing The New 2023 Honda Pilot TrailSport from a well-experienced mechanic point of view. I trust your videos, reviews, opinions, & suggestions. Thank you, and God bless you.
AMD, I hope Toyota breathes some new life into the wagon segment by bringing their new Crown Estate over here to compete with the European and not-so-European brands. 😉🤞🤞
I had a 2002 s60 base trim that I bought used in 2003 with about 18k miles. I drove that car for 10 years and the only problem I ever had was alternator replacement outside of general maintenance. It was a solidly built car and very comfortable. I wouldn’t buy another Volvo now if my life depended on it because their manufacturing practices have gone to shit. It sucks because I really wanted an xc70!
There is a lot that you don't understand at this car, but in practice it is a fantastic car to own and drive. The 48V system does improve stop/start and fuel economy.
Own an 04 XC70 2.5t AWD....I'll keep it even longer now....Great depth review of how complicated systems mess with your vehicle when they are pointlessly over/under engineered or thought out....That is not what Volvo was based on..aye well, progress ?
12:50 Just so you know, my 1998 Volvo S90 has the same transmission as the Lexus LS400. Volvo has used the best parts available for a long time. (I own 4 Volvos) Oh and I could count the number of parts on the cars that are identical and change-outable with Porsches for example.
Exactly. I found it hard to believe that AMD did not know that this is typical for Volvos or that this type of sourcing of transmissions is typical in the industry. Will AMD be surprised to hear that some BMWs have GM transmissions in them? This is not an industry about Swedish cars have X transmissions, and Japanese cars have Y transmissions, etc.
Great review as usual, AMD! I think all manufacturers would be able to make much better vehicles if their design and engineer teams watched your reviews.
I have been keeping a 2004 Volvo XC70 alive for the past 7 years (323,000 miles). I've gotten to know the car very well as I've gotten into a lot of the components and I'm pretty sure it's has an Aisin transmission. Which is why I'm surprised by the following comment... "I'm Surprised to see a japanese transmission on a swedish car, that I didn't think I'd see in my lifetime". I'm looking into a replacement for my XC70 and now I'm a bit skeptical of his expertise, not sure if I should trust his assessment. Edit: I watched several of his videos and he seems to know a real lot so I'll assume it's just a fluke
Yours will be an Aisin AF33 also called AW55-50SN. Regular ATF service must be performed with this transmission. Fluid must meet the JWS 3309 specification and a change is recommended every 50.000 miles.
I much prefer your type of review to the ones influencers do. Hearing over and over about the infotainment system and 0-60 times gives only minimal insight into how living with a car long-term will pan out.
Same here. I really couldn't care less about a touchpad sensitivity if the car is made to be in a junkyard after 5 years
Agreed. TCCN has spoiled me when it comes to car reviews. Can't really listen to anyone else since it all sounds like press-release bullet points.
You reviews are SO COMPLETE with total reviews of engine, trans, and, how they work or not work down to the interior materials quality or non quality. Really appreciate your true honest reviews and I watch them 100% for the entire video! Thanks so much!!
amen. Those other folks are just clown show barkers.
Other reviewers just spit out whatever PR info they were fed during free fine dining press events. This guy knows what to look under the hood. Plus he’s focused on long term ownership, not the idiot proof 3-4 years.
I’ve been following the Scotty Kilmer channel for a few years but this channel is a lot better and is now my favorite car channel.
exactly. and so much less shouting. Kilmer has taken the low road now as well with every other video being 'i'm quitting youtube', an 'they are out to get me', and endless clickbait. i've actually blocked his channel because of the BS factor. he used to be great. he threw it away.
Scotty is a clown
The Car Care Nut channel is about knowledge and unbiased reviews. Scotty Kilmer is just a loud clown.
@@thecount1001 I did the exact same thing. The only video he does is a 30 second video, if that.
@@thecount1001 I totally concur. I stopped watching Kilmer a couple of yrs ago. I learned a lot of great tips from him but now there's a lot of click bait, political crap and Scotty contradicting himself. And all those wild gesticulations just bug me .
I watched several reviews and still the impressions are mixed. The idea of your channel, your reviews is great. That's what a car buyer needs to get (but not every buyer looks for, unfortunately )) while choosing a car. The info (even negative) is provided correctly, but leaving the questions if it is accurate.
"Volvo makes only mechanical steering wheel setup" - there is explanation by Volvo, but you don't give it.
"Turbo rear placement - strange choice" - there are pros and cons for it, but not mentioned
"Spring leaf is metal covered by plastic" - not plastic, nor metal. It is fiber composite, GFRP (produced by german "SGL Carbon")
"It is surprise to see a japanese gearbox in a swedish car" - Volvo have been using Aisin-Warner gearboxes since the beginning of 1980s.
As a result, there is feeling like watching a... Top Gear episode.
best comment ive seen in a video in a very long time
Also, he criticizes things more if it is in a car company he obviously doesn't like. Same McPherson suspension setup is great in Toyota but overly complicated in VW. However, it is literally the same setup.
The rear bumper "hole" is where the optional swing-out/hideaway tow hitch goes. It's more popular in Europe and not as often seen in the North American market. If it were optioned, it would come with an additional button near the rear seat fold down buttons are located.
thanks for explaining, I'm in Europe but never knew how exactly you'd get to the hook receiver
ohhhh that's what you meant, I thought you meant the tow hook for towing the car with a strap
Too bad Volvo doesn’t exist because their cars are not reliable.
Toyota is the only car company that exists, boring or not.
But seriously, no luxury car has been worth it since the 90s, am I right?
The happiest day of my life is when I saw my old V70 wagon leaving my life for the last time. Of course, my ex wife was driving it.
I am sure that sexy RAV4 or Highlander really did it for you
@@stevenstrain283 it had 100K miles and the original timing belt.
@@bigdogpete43who?
I remember the old 240 Volvos, they where overly engineered to Nordic standards. They where very solidly built and safety wise was class leading. I would mostly see professional people driving these boxy Swedish cars. They use to have a reputation for long lasting built quality. Even better then the German cars.
Now, Volvo has become just another shoddy product from China.
Still have my 92 240 wagon. It has over 800,000 km on the original engine and transmission. Still my daily driver
They were the real Volvos.
@@rightlanehog3151 You guys are romanticizing them. They had their share of issues and the newer ones are built better and are safer.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I am 59 and I am not 'romanticizing' anything. In its era, the 240 was possibly the safest car on the road. With a typical lifespan 2 or 3 times longer than an average car, they were simply the best value in the automotive world. Of course, today's Volvos would be better to crash but their reliability is worse than average. I am also not going to ignore the ugly reality that the purchase of a Volvo today directly supports the most repressive government in the world. In the days of the 240, money spent on a Volvo supported one of the most progressive countries on the planet. Do I still sound like a Romantic?
The "leaf spring" in the back is actually a plastic composite one, not a plastic covered steel / metal one ;) This has been the case for many many years now on these new generation of Volvos. Yet to have a car with an issue with one, I work at a Volvo dealer.
Hi. I am looking to buy this car but am a bit scared from bad reliability reviews. As a tehnican, can you tell me first hand how reliable is it. Should I stay away? I am just having a horrifying experience with vw, and I really can't afford another lemon. I tend to keep my cars up to 10 years.
Thank you in advance.
@@andrejkrusic372 I would generally stay away from these if you are afraid of repairs and problems - there are a lot of problems, everything between the license plates can and / or has gone bad but that's because I work at a dealer - we see so many that our sample size makes us biased. They are however fantastic cars, fantastic handling, look amazing and are very comfortable, so it's a trade off. I'd like to say the tradeoff isn't as big as for a German brand, if you want almost what the Germans brands offer minus some power and are ready to have some problems but not quite as much as the Germans then go for it, otherwise stay away and get a Toyota ;)
@@nesmio7378 Out of 5 german cars I've owned ( outside of a botched oil job leaving no oil causing a valve job later) I've never had a big cost. I buy for ownership and end up with high miles. Those all had port injection and naturally aspirated timing chain engines with rock solid transmissions. I can't see Volvo being more reliable based on what others have said.
I definitely don't get some people's irrational fear of a timing belt. They don't just explode at random. Most people won't even own a car long enough to reach one change interval for the belt. Volvo's newer SPA models have a change interval of 130k miles. If you bought it new, you likely wouldn't have to worry about a belt change for almost a decade (depending on how much you drive). And even then, it's not like changing it requires removal of the engine. For a skilled technician it's a 2hr job. I'm a home mechanic and I can do it in my driveway in a few hours.
Oh, and for what its worth, Volvo has been using Japaness transmissions in their cars for at least 20 years.
That aside, I agree these are over complicated from a mechanical perspective. Specifically the newer "B5/B6" engines. The previous T5 and T6s were much simpler without the 48v system and are plenty reliable.
Admittedly I have only seen a dozen or so of your videos but you seem heavily biased towards Toyota and Lexus. I'd recommend viewers check out these cars themsevles to make up their own mind. The fit and finish of these cars is excellent, the seats are incredibly comfortable and the ride is top notch. If you're into music, the Bowers and Wilkins sound system will blow your mind (1500w and up to 19 speakers). Of course, no car is perfect. But in my opinion, Volvo wins against Toyota and Lexus all day.
Yes, the reviewer is more familiar with Toyota/Lexus. I laughed when he wanted an auto tilt steering column feature in the XC90. I will not correct him, he needs to learn his own and do research. That said I am biased too, we all are. Remember that not all car owners can work on their cars and change timing belt like you and I. Here is my prioritized list.
1. Safety cage built using ultra high strength steel
2. All day seat comfort
3. Longevity
4. Reliability
thanks for this comment, i was little worried after i bought 60k car and saw this video. :)
Nah, Volvos do not beat Lexus. Cross shopped an XC90 with an RX and there was no comparison, even before thinking about reliability.
With mild Hybrid maybe not, but with normal diesel car yes, Volvo is ahead. Japanese cars are not know for diesel cars, they are more focused in Gasoline. @@ln5747
The mechanic is more biased towards Lexus and Toyota because he is a master technician or used to be for Toyota and Lexus until he got his own shop now.
I am a die hard Volvo lover. I owned 3 Volvos in my life. However, maintenance is a huge issue. Not only it is costly, but difficult to find a good mechanic to take care of it.
I love the philosophy of Volvo- from its core vale to manufacture cars, to its design language. Unfortunately, reliability and maintenance costs are real drawbacks.
Your video allows me to understand why Volvos are not popular.
I have a 2007 V70 and its ridiculously easy to maintain.
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My first Volvo: S40 was easy to take care. Unfortunately, it was crashed by a truck in parking lots.
LOVE the exterior of this Volvo! Don't love the price & unreliability though. I would love to have something like this over an SUV any day. So tired of the overkill of SUVs here in N. America. We need some sporty, reliable & affordable wagons here in N. America already.
Hey Toyota, please send us a Camry and a Corolla wagon with all-wheel drive.
Thank you!!
It's called a Venza. LOL
Everything is reliable next to the new Generation of American cars like new Fords.
The back seat height and plastic back of the front seats is more practical for kids. From a parent perspective. ...they love putting up their feet in the back of the front seat and generally making a mess in their natural habitat... great review.
Re: Rear Transverse Leaf Spring:
For clarity, a polymer traverse leaf spring is not the normal leaf springs pack associated with box rail trucks. It’s a performance item that works extremely well, while reducing weight and eliminating need for a spring and a roll bar combo.
Note that GM used a rear traverse leaf spring in the Corvette through the C7 series.
Noted.
Corvette's had them in 1963.
@@willr1796you believe an extra $500 in BOM cost to GM, and $1,500 at retail would make or break a Corvette owners’ pockets? If you think that, your idea of a Vette owner’s expendable income and price sensitivity is distorted from reality.
GM used a transverse leaf spring because they found with a front engined car, the rear end’s sprung weight didn’t necessarily need a coil over set to to perform equal to a coil x shock combo. The best part was they saved weight and cost.
@@willr1796 MSFT is in Redmond, WA - Alphabet is in the Valley - Amazon is in Seattle (or lately off Pentagon Row), so where the hell do you live? All 3 at there same time 😅
I was in N. LA County 2 weeks ago for business over several days (Santa Monica, Calabasas, Malibu) and then Fremont, SF, and Palo. People there had 992s and RRs as commuters.
You claim to live in a fringe environment where brand and panache is more important than value. That doesn’t represent 90% of America or its consumers, nor Vette buyers. Hardly.
Vette buyers could care less about the European brands.
This car is all engineering . Toyota should be taking notes. But toy will always be toy. Volvo is...volvo.
one of extreamly few reviews / reviewers that actually talks about the technology behind vehicles (not talking about only useless comments about infotaimnent / how many different massaging modes seats have type of shillings we can see everywhere else)
Exactly.
Totally agree. This is the best review channel! Thank you, AMD!!!
I bought a new 2016 v60 with the original version of that engine. B420T11 and same 8 speed tranny. Closing in on 95K miles and has been trouble free. General maintenance only. Looks like Volvo got way more complicated now with the mild hybrid system. Glad mine does not have any of those complications.
I got a 2020 V60 T5 Momentum FWD, also before the hybrid motor version discussed here: like you I have had it since then trouble free only maintenance as required by the manufacturer ❤
I've got a 2017 V60 with the plug-in hybrid system. Hasn't had any issues so far, and the savings and flexibility offered by the hybrid system absolutely makes it worth it. Last year had the belt and water pump changed, and that's really the only maintenance it has needed.
@@shooterrick1 awesome 😎 the 2017 model is a gorgeous one
@@shooterrick1I just bought the 2017 t5. I’m so excited about it.
I have some experience with SPA Volvos, drivetrain wise, later models, I think 2017 and up are generally reliable, we’ll have to see how much the gen3 VEP 48v hybrid system affects the engine reliability compared to gen2.
Also I find it funny that Volvo moved the radar sensor to the grille, on earlier SPA cars (I think up to 2021), the cruise radar is located behind the windshield, next to the camera assembly.
I appreciate you reviewing the mechanical components. Having said that, I am sometimes lost in assessing the final value of the component. I think, 7:20 would be great if after reviewing a part, you could give a grade or simple score based on your opinion.
Back when you reviewed the new Elantra you've mentioned the 2.0T engine of the N variant and how it is a great engine. It would be awesome if you could review an Elantra N or a Veloster N and show us why you think their engines are great. Maybe something as detailed as how you've explained the Toyota's D4S engine would be wonderful!
Hey all FYI 2016-2018 v60s come with this same tranny and similar engine without the hybrid complication presented here. I’m now reaching 95k on my 16 model and no issues other than regular maintenance. Hoping to get another 100 k. So I would recommend the non hybrid model of the v60. They are know as P3 models. Oil changes every 5K that’s the big secret to make these last.😊
9:12 The idea came from an old method of starting a dead-battery- stick shift car by asking your friend /neighbor to push the car while you engage the first gear. Now you don't need a friend/neighbor. 🙂
My LS 460 has been a disappointment compared to the prior LS 430. This car greatly exceeds the complexity and potential for repairs of the burdensome LS 460 (major brake system issues, fussy suspension, fuel system leak, cheap sport trim, failed gasket material, etc.). Can you give us a list of simpler, reliable vehicles that are not going to be total wallet drainers? Your videos are probably saving me because I was considering a Volvo wagon.
Check his channel - he has done a video on which cars are better and which not to buy and in that he says buy the 430 but not the 460 because of the complexity and consequent possibilities for problems.
What year ls460?
I think any ...but search his channel for "which Lexus/Toyota to buy.@@ianwoodul7732
I bought a factory ordered 2020 V90 Inscription T6 AWD. It just passed 44k trouble free miles. I wanted a true station wagon and, at that time, the only other option was the Benz E450. It was a beautiful car, but almost $20k more at that time. Plus the E450's top-of-the-line front seats were not as comfortable as the V90's for my wife and I. With this said, I expect down-the-road maintenance costs will be an issue.
My 2007 Volvo S80 has the rear door capability to lock all doors from the outside. I also have the last V70 sold in the US, a 2010 V70 R-Design. Love it even with 187k miles on it.
Lucky. That V70 is a unicorn.
Sir it is a pleasure and an honor to be a subscriber to this channel which took car reviewing to an entirely different level. The amount of information and technical analysis might be unmatched by any other channel in this respect. Highly appreciate all what went into the production of such high quality highly informative episodes.
Stay safe.
you can get the molding body colored/painted. I am hoping though next year or so they come out with the EV60 CC. My wife wants one really bad, and should be good for her, since she doesn't drive much. The reason for places with and without Napa leather, is due to protecting the material. The pass through ski locker you wouldn't want it to be Napa leather and the edges of the skis to cut through it. The plastic on the back of the seats, is for our kids to put their dirty feet on. Same with the lower leather on the rear of the head rest. It actually all makes sense once you think that this is a semi luxury vehicle that is meant to be use as a family hauler. I have the 2015.5 XC70 T6 Platinum model, and the leather in it is kitted out through the whole cabin, and my daughter is consistently putting her feet on the back of the passenger seat and spilling stuff. So when you think of estates/avants/wagons, they're meant for use with families that have kids, or dogs that they want to actually use for what it is meant for. Also I would recommend watching this video on the purpose of this vehicle. th-cam.com/video/lg1C81s1PVI/w-d-xo.html
I want more content! Your review and mechanical insight is great! Simple enough to understand for the average Joe but technical enough for nerds to be entertained
Yes, the opening in the back bumper is made for the tow hitch that drops down if included when purchasing the car.
May the lord bless you and keep you for your dedication and honesty.
The 960/S90/V90 of the late 1990s also used a transverse rear leaf spring. Those were made of fiberglass, as this one likely is too.
I do think it's interesting how you said the air flow from the A/C is subpar. I'm watching this because I have one of these on order. However, I have owned a 2021 V60 and a 2022 S60. The S60 with the same mild hybrid setup has excellent airflow from the A/C. It does get warm very fast when the engine shuts off which is a pain, but you can override that by putting the car in manual shift mode. -- I agree with almost everything you said (and I subscribed!), but having owned 2 of this generation vehicle, they really are quite nice and nice to live with.
Nice to live with for 5 years. Try pricing an alternator replacement on this.
Ha... that a hot mess under the hood....you are right.....the repair costs in future would be prohibitive.....great review!!!
My 1994 Volvo 850 definitely had an Aisin transmission. It was pretty reliable.
I think Volvo has been using Aisin for their transaxles ever since they switched to front-wheel drive in the mid-90s
Very disappointed in Volvo. I expected a much more positive review. Thank you for such an honest review.
Why?
I think what you got was a biased and quite uneducated review if I'm honest.
A lot of the "oddities" he mentioned, like the 48v system, the leaf spring, the camshaft cover, the oil pump chain aren't odd at all... They're simply unfamiliar to him, someone that specializes in Toyota.
It seems like he's quick to believe that Toyota does things the simple or "normal" way and anyone that varies is doing it wrong.
As a technician that's worked for Volkswagen and GM Incan say for sure there is no 1 right or wrong way to do it. And the current crop of Volvo's have proven to be very reliable since about 2017.
The review is right on spot. Just bought a new 2024 V60 CC and had the aux belt snapped twice 😢 currently it is in the mechanic. First time they just replaced the belt without much explanation. 100km later, snapped again. I hope they give a better explanation and a proper fix this time. I’m shocked!
Thank you. You spared me from buying a '21 with low mi. I'll search your channel to find your recommended models.
That's the good one!! The '21 is a T5, not a B5. It is a world of difference. I have two T5s (2021 S60 and 2022 XC90)--both ultra reliable. As an automotive engineer, I specifically purchased these two Volvos right before each switched to B5.
@@rey_at_rsquaredwas the 2020 a good one?
Don't think he mentioned it, but no oil dipstick? Sad how many car manufacturers think cost cutting is more important than maintenance / reliability.
Thanks for a great, objective indepth review! Could you do the V90 CrossCountry as well?
Suggestion: Display the MSRP of the model reviewed along with where it’s made and some main specs (Engine, trim, MPG, etc) I love these reviews!! This one’s MSRP is $48,000
I Have a 2019 V60 T5 FWD Inscription. Issues since i bought it at 2021.
Vibrating steering wheel at 130 km/h - solved
Replaced all 4 wheel bearings with new optimized bearings
New and optimized lower control arms for both front wheels
Possessed Left mirror - solved
New mirror control unit inside the left door panel
Leaking rusty struts that open the trunk - solved
Replaced both struts with new ones
Panoramic roof shade was frequently stuck open - solved
Replaced the mechanism for opening the shade
Upon testing the cables snapped in half and the whole assembly had to be replaced again so it was repaired twice
Center console closing mechanism was sliding open when accelerating - solved, now its broken again
Front Right engine mount is cracked and needs replacing since 50k km - To Do
Car AC is completely dead, no cooling whatsoever, loud hissing from the vents - To Do
Rear wiper blade stopped working - solved
Changed something and cleaned up the lines
Vibrating door panel and headliner noises during driving - solved
Disassebmled the door and added some padding
Recall for a bursting fuel line
So for me, the most unreliable car in history of cars. If i bought an english coachbuilt car i would probably be better off.
As a previous Volvo S60 owner, the biggest disappointment was the backseat. Not a family vehicle as you thought it could be. Their vehicles have no shared legroom, if the driver needs it, the rear passenger does not get any. The reason why I never shopped them again. Except that it was a fun car.
Very interesting. I've been buying and driving exclusively used Volvos. I've found that post facelift, meaning about four years after a model release, Volvos are generally reliable cars. I live in the rust belt and they DO NOT RUST. That is a big selling point.. I don't know how I feel about the post 2016 models for many of the reasons you mentioned.. I own a 2007 XC90, a 2010 XC70, and a 2012 C70 hardtop convertible and they are all tanks. They have a progressive soft to hard steel chassis with a hardened cage around the passengers. I live in coal country. Coal trucks trying to get in an extra load are a real hazard here. The safety and durability will keep me buying the earlier models.
@@willr1796 It is not a special Volvo anymore. Toyota, VW/Audi post 2010 are well rust protected too. Especally the body parts. Honda and Mazda is still 1 or 2 steps behind on rust protection. The trucks and SUV body on frame is different story. However, the safety camera, etc in Volvo is a bit hit and miss. Volvo went bankrupt for many reasons that coincide with the downfall of reliability it has. Too much electronics and complications. Not as simple as it was. Toyota and Honda gets more complicated but still simple in nutshell just like their Hybrid system.
@willr1796 Yes, there are no more things better than commodity Honda/Toyota in any aspect besides the fading name. The sound insulation is indeed still in high level, but Acura and Lexus are high level too. Volvo needs to go back to basic simplicity. With the demand of high fuel efficiency and reliability that American need, it is indeed really hard. Even Honda slipped a bit in the past few years.
@@willr1796 Volvo's are built in Sweden.
@@shooterrick1 the engines are manufactured in China, but Volvo just bought themselves out of their partnership with Geely so we’ll see what happens.
@JamesShander my s90 is manufactured in the USA.
I'd advice people who wants one of these to get the non-mildhybrid one. Instead of B5 it'll be a T5. They are much simpler.
Volvos from the 90's also had the Asian trans on them and the manual 5 speed was their only design.
2007 V70 2.4 Diesel here.
I would say Volvo peaked in the years 2000-2016 with the P2 and P3 platform. They pretty much improved everything going from the "old" Volvos of the 90s but kept them robust simple and reliable.
Also Aluminium Valve Cover vs Plastic Valve cover isnt a new or old engine thing my guy... My car is a 2007 and it has a plastic valve cover. I know some VW engines from even earlier that came with plastic valve covers.
Now with the new SPA platform cars im still undecided if they are good. It seems that they changed engines from T designation to B designation around 2021 and the older T engine is better.
8 minutes in, and I'm already out!! I wouldn't buy one of these just due to the complexity of the coolant and belts alone! Not to mention everything else!
Volvo doesn’t exist because their cars are not reliable.
Toyota is the only car company that exists, boring or not.
But seriously, no luxury car has been worth it since the 90s, am I right?
My local Mazda dealer is also a Volvo dealer. When I went it for a firmware update, the line into the service department was all Volvos. My car are the only Mazda.
and it will always be....because you never had one and because you can buy two mazdas for price of one volvo. thats the fact.
Thanks as always for these reviews. I was surprised you haven't done any on Subaru when I looked yesterday. Figured you would give an insight on the CrossTrek or another model.
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru, so I doubt a Toyota/Lexus repair specialist would want to talk negatively about them.
I have owned several Volvo's since I was 18 years old, but do not like Volvo's from around 2010 and up. There was not the same quality feel to them anymore, and lot's of stories about engine issues and electrical issues, so after 28 years, I switched to Toyota and now drives a 2020 Camry Hybrid, which is a very rare car here in Denmark - and in Western Europe generally.
I actually prefer the plastic back on the front seats instead of leather. But having the center console and armrests (doors and rear seats) be some cheapo alternative is such a letdown - that's the part you actually touch every time you drive the car. Additionally, the A/C implementation sounds like its a no-go as a Florida car.
I agree on this one! I have 3 young children. If I had these seats I wouldn't need to buy a seperate cover for my front seats. 😅
Also If it's one thing I know the Swedes know how to do well, it's comfortable seats. Basically every Volvo and back in the day Saab have had amazing seats.
As someone who has spent a lot of time behind the wheel of the S60 and V60 I totally disagree with his opinion of the interior materials mainly the door. The leather on the door panel is quite soft especially when compared to this cars main competitor the A4 which uses thinner feel material in my opinion. The rest of the door is finished in soft touch plastic down to the bottom of the door for both the front and rear doors. In most of the competition like the A4 and C Class they cheap out for the bottom of the door by finishing them in hard touch plastic...
We were really considering this vehicle but was suspicious of the complex cooling system and overall engine packaging. Thank you for confirming my concerns over the powertrain. All the other influencers who reviewed this vehicle all made good points that would be beneficial to someone who is leasing vs buying and keeping long term. This is now off our list.
Very nice review, tyvm for taking the time and effort for this one. The exterior of the V60 is stunning for a wagon, but a timing belt (cam belt) in this day and age is a deal breaker for me, regardless of its good looks. I wish more manufacturers would offer wagons ("estates") today for those of us who don't need an SUV/Crossover, but with a timing chain and NOT a timing belt!
Well, some manufacturers can't figure out how to do a timing chain correctly and those fail catastrophically anyway, in that case I'd rather take a good ol' timing belt. Have one in my 5-cyl Volvo and have never had any problems with it. Most European manufacturers have had issues with timing chains, I'm looking at you BMW...
@@tobias_dahlberg I should have been a bit more specific and said that a timing belt on an INTERFERENCE ENGINE is a hard stop for me in what's now approaching model year 2024. I could live with a belt on a non-interference engine, although I still prefer the longevity and greater peace of mind a chain provides. I do recognize your point though, poor design and engineering trumps reliability and longevity every time.
@@craigcraigster4999 Volvo has never really had any issues with either timing chains or timing belts on interference engines. I wouldn’t worry about it. Have never heard of any catastrophic things happening unless the owner has gone WAY WAY over the recommended mileage for changing the belt and water pump. But yes I see what you mean.
@@tobias_dahlberg SAAB 9-5 no big issues with timing chain.
I definitely don't get some people's irrational fear of a timing belt. They don't just explode at random. Most people won't even own a car long enough to reach one change interval for the belt. Volvo's newer SPA models have a change interval of 130k miles. If you bought it new, you likely wouldn't have to worry about a belt change for almost a decade (depending on how much you drive). And even then, it's not like changing it requires removal of the engine. For a skilled technician it's a 2hr job. I'm a home mechanic and I can do it in my driveway in a few hours.
Why would you ever need to remove the cam cover?? There is no routine maintenance requiring removal of upper cam cover. That would imply major engine work, which would indeed require very involved repairs.
rocker covers leak over time
Did not expect that rear suspension at all
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD DO MID-SIZE TRUCKS
Some comments:😊
1. Rear spring is made of special fiber plastic
2. Sweden and Germany are not neighbors
3. American schools are so bad?
It's an AWD car, you pointed out the drive shaft going to the back earlier in the video, then when sitting in the rear of the car you said it has a big tunnel, and you didn't know why !!
Hi, thanks for the great instructive and straightforward content sharing!
Could you make a review about Audi A4 Allroad 45TFSI MHEV, model year 2020 or 2021 if possible?
It would be great to hear your comments about the engine (its reliability, fuel consumption), the mild hybrid efficiency in this engine, anything in general to be aware of with this car or Audi about this engine and so on. Additionally, I love the fact that you show under the car and comment how they covered or placed things. Definitely one of the favourite sections of the videos 🙌🏻
the transverse leaf spring was used by lots of early fords and also the Corvette. I believe the one in the corvette was made of FRP.
And GM W-bodies like Chevy Lumina, etc. Range Rovers used plastic (phenolic) trailing arms on the rear suspension from ‘95 to ‘02
We just bought a low mileage "21, but went with the T5 rather than the B5 engine, based, in large part, as a result of watching this review.
The engine and underbody review gained you a new subscriber - really interesting stuff, thank you
Great Aisin transmission! Love this review.
These reviews are awesome. Would love to get your perspective on some German cars (BMW, Merc, Audi) too.
Love your reviews. Very descriptive, decisive analysis love it.
Hi just to let you know the hole under the rear bumper is for a dissappearing retractable tow hitch. You can get it fitted as an option as new or get it installed after purchase. Almost all Volvos have this as an option going back to the late 90s I think.
I am loving your car reviews because you mention things no other car reviewers mention. Do more!
Great job on staying the great tech you are and not turning soft for the sake of having press cars!!!!
Great review, you can't get this sort of technical review anywhere else! I have some familiarity with this generation of Volvos, but not too much with the B-series "mild hybrids". I'm rather in some disbelief at the apparent added complication...why the dual water pumps? Where the previous "ICE" T5/T6 drivetrains have a fully electric water pump which would seem ideal to carry forward to the the B5/B6. Sometimes it's hard to know why engineers do what they do though, we have no idea of their considerations...
*edit* just thought to add, the rear leaf spring IS plastic, it's not covered in anything. So it's actually composite material not plastic. Composite is lighter than metal springs, and also does not sag over time like all metal springs do, the rate and height are adjustable with mounting. It's not all upsides but it has it's place. You really can't compare a transverse leaf to longitudinal leaf, which is a locating suspension link, the transverse leaf could not be more different use case. I really love these videos, and at the risk of sounding like an A-hole...I think you could tone down the "mechanic naturally knows everything about how cars are engineered"...sorry I don't know how to say that any other way. Maybe it's just me, I try not to approach things like I already know everything. I really don't mean that to be an insult, I'm here watching, I love the stuff.
Yea, he does have this "I know better than those dumb engineers" attitude...
Engineering is unfortunately all about compromise. There's always constraints that need to be taken into account like costs, supply chain and sourcing, parts commonality and god knows what else.
I really hate it when someone comes with a "well, why didn't you just do X?" after months or years of design work with no idea of what went in the design. I had to do A because of B, which was caused by C, which came from requirement D and so on...
If the b5/b6 gen 3 drive-e engines do in fact have dual water pumps, the belt driven one gotta linked to the low temp circuit ie: intercooler and hybrid electronic
The opening is for a retractable tow hitch, I have one. The leaf spring is polymer, not just coated in plastic. I have v90cc.
Volvo has had Japanese transmissions in their cars for a VERY long time. It's not a surprise to anyone who knows Volvos. One of the reasons why Volvo transmissions almost never brake is because they choose reliable and simple transmissions. There have been some exceptions, like when they used a GM transmission that was absolutely horrible.
Love these technical reviews as they provide great research material for potential buyers. They always make me wonder about the design process and how the final specification gets signed off for production. I wouldn't buy a Volvo after Ford ruined the company and it was sold to god knows who. Thank you for the interesting content.
I guess Volvo is going out of business…
But seriously, the automotive world went to crap after the 90s. Now only Toyota exists because of reliability…
Geely of China owns Volvo and Polestar. The new EX-30 EV is built in China and will be exported to the U.S. under special rules to avoid the "import taxes". Research it and you will learn. Oh, about this car, no way in HE!!,
@@faheemabbas3965 volvo is not going out of business and they're doing well. Geely has helped finance Volvo and their Swedish operation is stronger than it was under Ford.
@@benjaminsmith2287 That comment was clearly made tongue in cheek, I think you took it too literally! 😉
Yes, Volvo is Chinese owned, however, the V60, the V90, and the XC90 are all direct Swedish products.
Volvos are Swedish products. People saying they are Chinese haven't done any real research on the Geely/Volvo relationship.
I always loved the look and style. But man I didn't realize they have a4 cylinder turbo and supercharger on some models. First off has no power. And when I took it on a test ride and found out the motor I said to the sales man "more moving parts more problems" "sounds like a headache"... Salesman smirked 😏
Really enjoy hearing the technical reviews. Is it possible to do the VAG's EA888 engines?
Man sound like you took apart the car part by part then reassembled from scratch to make this review - kudos
The old low displacement, low-pressure naturally-aspirated inline 6 cylinders look extremely reliable and simple and dependable in comparison to this stuff
It would be great if you could do a mild hybrid system comparison maybe including systems the US doesn't get like the Toyota 48V system or the Mazda 24V hybrid.
Wow thats why i love Honda/ Acura man the Japanese really keep things simple still to this day. Why would anyone buy a volvo these days ? ACURA Are just as luxurious and Reliable simple to fix. Even Lexus
I dont get people talking about volvo reliability issues. In Sweden there are so many, but so many volvos, and I have never seen one by the road side. And I travel around a lot.
You see often 20+ years volvos doing just fine.
After the last few years of so many engines with chains having issues (toyotas in that group) a belt is not a bad idea. 150k interval belt that costs less than a chain to service and can't lose tensioner or tensioner rail and be noisy or lose chain and wreck valves.
I've heard similar opinions from Subaru mechanics.
The chain-craze is not as good is people think. An engine has multiple parts so the engine has to be serviced anyways.
Honda has been using belts in their V6's for what...almost 30 years? They just redesigned it and its still a belt. Some of the longest lasting engines out there. They also have non-self-adjusting valves that everyone else went away from because it was more maintenance.
Would really like to see other brands reviewed. Looks like focused on Mazda, Volvo.
I want to like contemporary Volvos, they look really nice and they've got a good selection of AWD models ... but I am a used car buyer, and this vehicle looks like it has something in common with many Euro vehicles; they're beautiful, the drive nice, they're luxurious. They're expensive new, and cheap used.
there's nothing more expensive than a used, cheap European luxury car
The less Volvos sold and on the road , the world is a better place for mechanics, whom not only have to do the job but explain the excessive repair costs to disgruntled owners that don’t have the same understanding.
Regarding the back Seats, being 6'3 and family members that are similar high and I have also found that many rear seat, take the new Nissan X Trail/Rogue which also have the same issue. My 2015 model had fantastic rear seats but the new model have the lower ones which made me go to another brand.
Volvo has been using Aisin auto transmission in their D3/D4/D5 units since the mid 2000s. It is only in the D2 where they used the notorious Ford Powershift unit.
Yes, Saab had also been using Aisin transmissions since about the same time as Volvo… In fact this Aisin 8 speed variants are known to be used in many European fwd vehicles like in VW and FCA
I can’t wait for the 2024 Landcruiser review
Give me the 600,000 mile Lexus
same here.
😂
Any day
Volvo doesn’t exist because their cars are not reliable.
Toyota is the only car company that exists, boring or not.
But seriously, no luxury car has been worth it since the 90s, am I right?
AISIN 6 speed gearboxes are in all older Volvo models as well…
Yup. My favorite Volvo is the S80 V8 with the AISIN transmission. Older Volvo's are also really cool.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 I have 2010. S80 2.4 D5 automatic,580.000 km
The TF-80-SC, a reliable automatic transmission.
27:24 low seats are for fold flat cargo space, but i agree, most Volvo seats are too low at the rear seat padding is too thin and uncomfortable for me since they don't have any recline and sit too upright.
I agree the back seats are too low on Volvos. It gets uncomfortable when on a long drive.
Can you please do a video reviewing The New 2023 Honda Pilot TrailSport from a well-experienced mechanic point of view. I trust your videos, reviews, opinions, & suggestions. Thank you, and God bless you.
Please keep it up with more Volvo reviews. Appreciated.
Awesome channel So far Mazda, Volvo cars out of question of buying
mazdas are a no go
AMD, I hope Toyota breathes some new life into the wagon segment by bringing their new Crown Estate over here to compete with the European and not-so-European brands. 😉🤞🤞
I had a 2002 s60 base trim that I bought used in 2003 with about 18k miles. I drove that car for 10 years and the only problem I ever had was alternator replacement outside of general maintenance. It was a solidly built car and very comfortable. I wouldn’t buy another Volvo now if my life depended on it because their manufacturing practices have gone to shit. It sucks because I really wanted an xc70!
The xc70 (which ended in 2016) was a solidly built car.
volvo as used aisin gearboxes foe ages. very good system
There is a lot that you don't understand at this car, but in practice it is a fantastic car to own and drive. The 48V system does improve stop/start and fuel economy.
Let us know your TH-cam channel so that we can all learn from you.
Own an 04 XC70 2.5t AWD....I'll keep it even longer now....Great depth review of how complicated systems mess with your vehicle when they are pointlessly over/under engineered or thought out....That is not what Volvo was based on..aye well, progress ?
Ok, so what year v60 would be recommended ??? Anyone ?
12:50 Just so you know, my 1998 Volvo S90 has the same transmission as the Lexus LS400. Volvo has used the best parts available for a long time. (I own 4 Volvos) Oh and I could count the number of parts on the cars that are identical and change-outable with Porsches for example.
Exactly. I found it hard to believe that AMD did not know that this is typical for Volvos or that this type of sourcing of transmissions is typical in the industry. Will AMD be surprised to hear that some BMWs have GM transmissions in them? This is not an industry about Swedish cars have X transmissions, and Japanese cars have Y transmissions, etc.
Thank you I learn a lot from all your videos. Would love to see more reviews on older cars and the new Toyota Grand Highlander
Great review as usual, AMD! I think all manufacturers would be able to make much better vehicles if their design and engineer teams watched your reviews.
I have been keeping a 2004 Volvo XC70 alive for the past 7 years (323,000 miles). I've gotten to know the car very well as I've gotten into a lot of the components and I'm pretty sure it's has an Aisin transmission. Which is why I'm surprised by the following comment... "I'm Surprised to see a japanese transmission on a swedish car, that I didn't think I'd see in my lifetime". I'm looking into a replacement for my XC70 and now I'm a bit skeptical of his expertise, not sure if I should trust his assessment.
Edit: I watched several of his videos and he seems to know a real lot so I'll assume it's just a fluke
Yours will be an Aisin AF33 also called AW55-50SN. Regular ATF service must be performed with this transmission. Fluid must meet the JWS 3309 specification and a change is recommended every 50.000 miles.