Excellent video. I found one of these amps at a pawnshop and was able to get the price down to $525. The amp is in mint condition and looks brand new. I like this review and the guidance on how to get the best tones out of it. I also like the fact that the guitar player is excellent and has a very strong right hand. This provides a better example of what the amp is capable of. Thank you. I have been to this channel many times and I like the way this host presents amplifiers.
FINALLY. Someone objectively highlights the differences between the DSL and TSL. Knowing what I know NOW after watching this. I would've bought the TSL. But the internet "experts" led me astray.
You get great sound out of every Marshall you plug your guitars in, Euge. Kinda like the Johan Segeborn of 800s and later Marshalls, while he is the Plexi-King
Great demo. I had a JCM2000 for about 18 years before it finally died and I replaced it about a year ago with a DSL100HR, which I immediately swapped the stock tubes with JJ KT77's, TungSol RI 12AX7's and a Sovtek 12AX7LPS for the phase inverter and I can actually coax pretty much every tone I was ever able to get with the DSL2000 and them some.
I have the tsl and man, it sounds so good itself, no pedals involved. It needs a good amount of volume but it's really dinamic and responds so well with different pickups! Needless to say that it is also one cheap amp to find on used gear websites!
Wooooah... I have this amp, I bought one for gigging back in the early 2000's , I don't know how you're sitting in front of it with the Volume past half way?!? I can't get the vol past 1 without blowing my windows out! It's pretty much unusable as lounge room amp in the suburbs, so is now just decoration in the corner! Sounds great.
I thought the same thing when I saw his amp on 5. Like WTF, and sitting right in front of the cab? That's crazy. We know exactly how loud that would be. lol.
Just got my first Marhsall, the DSL 50 Didn't compared it to the TSL one yet, but for the 600$, its a treasure Sounds evesome, green channel + Boss SD-1 = Ozzmosis
such killer amps, wish they got more love honestly The TSL sounds duller in my opinion, but I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a mix. The DSL seems to be slightly less compressed and have a bit more top end gets shaved off when recording anyway
Nice playing Euge. That lead in the first song was sweet. When I listened to where you were going with the last phrase I was wondering if it would fit, but you squeezed it in nicely.
The TSL sounded best to me. But I owned a TSL and only kept it for a few weeks as I couldn't get a tone I liked. Yours sounds great! I think you have mastered getting just the right amount of gain and SD-1 to taste. I have never used a pedal to boost the input..(other than on Plexi's) but thanks to TH-cam I now find that I'm in the minority! I now use two ENGL Powerball heads, but they were the first deviation from Marshalls for me in 40years of playing. I may return to Marshall one day I think :)
Hey Euge! I end up buying the jvm205h at last. Best choice I ever made. I know you advised me for dsl100hr but man..I played for nearly half an hour and I easily managed to achive the raw Hatebreed tone that I was seeking. Thanks for the great videos man..You inspired to go with the Marshall..
They both have more “purr” than a JCM800 to my ears, if you know what I mean - maybe more saturated, softer attack, more massive sound but less aggressive
I'm looking at a (2005) JCM 2000 DSL 100 Watt head with a Marshall 1960A 4x12 tomorrow. The owner is asking $1k. Hopefully its in goid working order, he says it is... Do you all think this is a good price?
I haven’t played with the Sovtek but the 2000 DSL is pretty much capable of anything IMO. That and a JCM800 2203 was my go to amp live with Shining many years.
@@EugeValovirta230V thank you for replying! I’ve got an opportunity to trade one of my LTD EC-1000’s for one of these amps. I think I’ll go with the Marshall. I used to play through a JCM2000 in the early 2000’s, the Sovtek just peaked my interest. Thanks! Love your vids, keep them coming
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks buddy,your video is really nice, I like Mesa boogie,but I also like Marshall, I have a jcm 2000 dsl100, before I used 1960A cabinet,the tone seems like more treble,and then I used Mesa cabinet v30 speaker,it’s better then before.and I think with a boost is better when you use jcm. English is not my native language, hope you understand what I say.
You got the gift man. Incredible And that riff you played at 6:10 with the chorus, is that a song or is it just something you came up with? If it’s a song drop the title! Killer playing man loving the videos just subscribed
Thanks man! The intro piece is a song I wrote. I usually write a new song (or a rough idea of a song) for each video and my second solo album ’Shooting From The Hip’ is based on the song clips I’ve ”introduced” first on my YT videos. Red Wolf’s ’Sessions Vol. 1’ - album is also based on these. And the next Cyhra album will most likely have a few songs / ideas from my videos too. But that at 6:10 was me just noodling some basic chords on the top of my head 😎.
I have a DSL15H and a SD1, should I set up my EQ the same as yours to match the closest sound or will sound a lot different to yours? great video Euge!
I have no idea since the sound comes mostly from players hands but it should be a good starting point 😉. The cabinet, speakers and microphones to capture the sound etc., or the impulse response, plays a huge part in the sound also. A lot more than people usually think. I always tell people to use their ears and not their eyes when dialing their sound 🎼. th-cam.com/video/vCxlsdErftk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! It’s been a while since I did the video and I borrowed the amp from a friend so can’t remember anymore. But if I remember correct I said in the video what the tubes were?
Yeah! With Suhr Reactive Load IR 👌. So the signal goes from the amp’s speaker out to the Suhr and from Suhr to Focusrite audio interface and from there to Logic DAW and I’m monitoring myself with Genelec speakers (connected to the Focusrite) on moderate volume. The cab is there to just look good 😎. The whole signal chain is in the description.
@@EugeValovirta230V I didnt even think of a load box, lol. Everytime I turn my JCM2000 that loud, I leave the room and close the door so that I can play. Hah. But I'll have to try that one. I'm still so behind with the technology accompanying amps.
Yeah the Suhr is awesome! You can crank any amp as loud as F and play at home and / or record in complete silence if you will ’cos there’s headphone out also 😊👍.
Hey friend. I love your videos cause I'm a marshall maniac also.Is the dsl capable for modern metal? I'm looking for Hatebreed tone and I'm torn between jvm205h and dsl100hr. Is it possible for you to make a video between these two amps?Which of these two would you prefer?
Hey! I think they both are capable. Especially if you boost them with overdrive. Unfortunately not possible atm but if I get my hands on those then for sure! 🤘
@@EugeValovirta230V I know you love the jcm 800 barkle but which would you choose? the jvm or the dsl? Everyone says that the dsl doesn't have much gain for modern sound such as the jvm.
love the sound, i would like to know, as a person who plays a fair amount of metal with heavy distorted tones, what do you think are good amps below 500 for these tones? love the videos, your awesome man!
Thanks Ben! I’m not sure if there is any below 500. I mean why anybody would buy amps more expensive if there would be such 😎 But I think you can get a used TSL around 600€ cos for some reason it’s really underestimated amp. At least for now 😉
Indeed! Can’t remember ’cos it’s been a while since I did this one but usually I add a tiny amount of room rev so that it’d sound as close to the viewer as it sounds to me in the room 👌.
Euge, can you clarify something for me? You aren't actually running a cabinet right? You're using an IR that is software then routing that signal back out to a cab?
Marshall Vintage is the OG Vintage speaker which Celestion made / makes just for Marshall and the V30 is Celestion’s ”native” version of that. I prefer the original.
The first riff you played 0:19 a couple of times makes me remember the first riff of Ozzy Osbourne - Tattooed Dancer m.th-cam.com/video/XMWfLzs1N2g/w-d-xo.html
I’m sorry but when I hear these tones you’re getting from an amp that I own (100w DSL 2000 x 2) I get aroused!!!!! Damn!!! (I’d better close the curtains! Lol) Btw…are you tuned to a dropped Eb with the E string tuned down a whole step? I don’t have a guitar here. I know! Shameless! Lol
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Excellent video. I found one of these amps at a pawnshop and was able to get the price down to $525. The amp is in mint condition and looks brand new. I like this review and the guidance on how to get the best tones out of it.
I also like the fact that the guitar player is excellent and has a very strong right hand. This provides a better example of what the amp is capable of. Thank you. I have been to this channel many times and I like the way this host presents amplifiers.
FINALLY. Someone objectively highlights the differences between the DSL and TSL.
Knowing what I know NOW after watching this. I would've bought the TSL.
But the internet "experts" led me astray.
🙏👍
You get great sound out of every Marshall you plug your guitars in, Euge.
Kinda like the Johan Segeborn of 800s and later Marshalls, while he is the Plexi-King
Thanks! Yeah it’s all in the hands of the player 😎👍
I hesitated a lot and you convinced me with this test .... thank you for comparing these 2 amps
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Now this is more like it! Great harmonics! 🎸
Glad to hear! Thanks! 🤘
You make these amps sound SO good my man. Wow.
Thanks man!
Nice riffing man it felt 80s were back 🤘🤘🤘
Thanks man!
Thanks for helping me wrap my head around my Head.
You’re welcome 😎.
Great demo. I had a JCM2000 for about 18 years before it finally died and I replaced it about a year ago with a DSL100HR, which I immediately swapped the stock tubes with JJ KT77's, TungSol RI 12AX7's and a Sovtek 12AX7LPS for the phase inverter and I can actually coax pretty much every tone I was ever able to get with the DSL2000 and them some.
Thanks! Sounds legit 💪😎
I have a JCM 2000 and it is an amazing amp. Both the DSL & TSL are rocking' amps...can't go wrong.
Indeed 🤟.
Euge, you can really play your ass off man. Fantastic demo.
Buying used today in the am hours glad I saw you video showed how to get that sound
I have the tsl and man, it sounds so good itself, no pedals involved. It needs a good amount of volume but it's really dinamic and responds so well with different pickups!
Needless to say that it is also one cheap amp to find on used gear websites!
Using those machines is a real mix of science and art \m/ Pepita is taking mental notes all the time. His wings don't let him write.
😎👍
Wooooah... I have this amp, I bought one for gigging back in the early 2000's , I don't know how you're sitting in front of it with the Volume past half way?!? I can't get the vol past 1 without blowing my windows out! It's pretty much unusable as lounge room amp in the suburbs, so is now just decoration in the corner! Sounds great.
I thought the same thing when I saw his amp on 5. Like WTF, and sitting right in front of the cab? That's crazy. We know exactly how loud that would be. lol.
Nice review. You make that guitar scream!
Thanks!
Nice👍🏻good thing you have the post 2005 models. Killer playing.
Thanks Patrick!
Sound's great from Tokai and more
Yeah! Thanks!
I love the DSL 2000s
The JCM 2000 is nice for classic metal tones with a humbucker Gibson axe and dirty pedal of your choice.
Just got my first Marhsall, the DSL 50
Didn't compared it to the TSL one yet, but for the 600$, its a treasure
Sounds evesome, green channel + Boss SD-1 = Ozzmosis
Cool!
such killer amps, wish they got more love honestly
The TSL sounds duller in my opinion, but I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a mix. The DSL seems to be slightly less compressed and have a bit more top end gets shaved off when recording anyway
Indeed 👍🔥
Nice playing Euge. That lead in the first song was sweet. When I listened to where you were going with the last phrase I was wondering if it would fit, but you squeezed it in nicely.
Thanks! Yeah it was so and so but somehow I managed to land on my feet, so to say 😎
Yes you did. Like a cat.
Yeah 😊🐈
Great sounds! Will have to use these as backline soon and this video really helps out for prep!
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Holy crap man …..!!!!!!
That some damn good playing and superb amp tone …..!!!!!
Keep those videos coming brother…! 👍
Thanks Darryl!
Nice playing!
Killer Tone!
Thanks!
Great vid as usual!
Thanks!
I didn't know that John Malkovich was a metal guitar
😁
Where do you set the gain before you add the overdrive? (7:30). Thank you! Very helpful video for getting the tone I want out of my JCM2000.
Around the ”tsssh” where it just ”opens”. Different on every guitar & pickups. Glad to hear thanks!
Euge: plays sick solo
Euge: ...yeah
😎🤟
Great Review Euge 🎸👍
Thanks Brian!
That DSL sounds more Angry . I should know, I own myself. Clean to dirty, I use a DOD 250 and/or TS9
Oos I meant as a boost!
😊👍
The TSL sounded best to me. But I owned a TSL and only kept it for a few weeks as I couldn't get a tone I liked. Yours sounds great! I think you have mastered getting just the right amount of gain and SD-1 to taste. I have never used a pedal to boost the input..(other than on Plexi's) but thanks to TH-cam I now find that I'm in the minority! I now use two ENGL Powerball heads, but they were the first deviation from Marshalls for me in 40years of playing. I may return to Marshall one day I think :)
Yeah it’s a great amp and like any other amp it’s even greater when you push it with a good overdrive like the SD-1 💪
Hey Euge! I end up buying the jvm205h at last. Best choice I ever made. I know you advised me for dsl100hr but man..I played for nearly half an hour and I easily managed to achive the raw Hatebreed tone that I was seeking. Thanks for the great videos man..You inspired to go with the Marshall..
Awesome!
Great playing! Nice tones
Thanks!
Ciao. Ottimo modo di suonare la chitarra. Ottima sensazione e tono sorprendente. Molto bene!
Sounds great 👍
🙏🤟
Sounds amazing my friend!!!!
Thanks!
You are wellcome!!!!
6:55 felt just like Zak Wylde. 👍🏼
😎👍
They both have more “purr” than a JCM800 to my ears, if you know what I mean - maybe more saturated, softer attack, more massive sound but less aggressive
I came to see the amp, watched it twice for the playing
Glad to hear! 😎👌🙏
I kind of wish the jvm had the dsl reverb hmmm isn’t the dsl a real tank verb though and the jvm is an acutronics dsp chip?
Yes 👍
Great video👍 There’s a 2000 for sale locally with a 4x12 cab asking 950. I’m on the fence to make an offer, this video may have sold me.
Thanks!
😎👍
I'm looking at a (2005) JCM 2000 DSL 100 Watt head with a Marshall 1960A 4x12 tomorrow. The owner is asking $1k. Hopefully its in goid working order, he says it is... Do you all think this is a good price?
Very Slash Sounding guitar tone.
You Rip Brother! Killer!
The tsl sounded more zack (fuller) and the dsl sounded more randy...both sound good with you playing
I agree ☺️👌
Have you ever demo'd the Marshall Vintage Modern 2266? What do you think of them?
I’ve played one years ago and if I remember correct it sounded like a Marshall so I liked it 😎.
If you had to choose between a Marshall JCM2000 DSL 100 and a Sovtek Mig 100 which would you choose? Doom to Death Metal versatility
I haven’t played with the Sovtek but the 2000 DSL is pretty much capable of anything IMO. That and a JCM800 2203 was my go to amp live with Shining many years.
@@EugeValovirta230V thank you for replying! I’ve got an opportunity to trade one of my LTD EC-1000’s for one of these amps. I think I’ll go with the Marshall. I used to play through a JCM2000 in the early 2000’s, the Sovtek just peaked my interest. Thanks! Love your vids, keep them coming
Cool man!
Glad to hear that! Thanks!
THANK BRO!!!!!
You’re welcome! 😎🙏
Just bought mine on eBay. Anyone recommend the best sounding tube replacements?
I use JJ ECC83S preamp tubes on all slots and Svetlana EL34s or Tung-Sol 6550s on all my Marshalls🤘👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V I’m just seeing this now! Thank you so much for responding. I love your channel. 🍻
😎👌🙏
Hey buddy,your video is amazing.I want to know what is your cabinet and speaker? I don’t think the speaker is G12-75, it is V30?
Thanks! I used Suhr Reactive Load on this one but can’t remember the IR anymore. Most likely something from Jens Bogren 🤟.
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks buddy,your video is really nice, I like Mesa boogie,but I also like Marshall, I have a jcm 2000 dsl100, before I used 1960A cabinet,the tone seems like more treble,and then I used Mesa cabinet v30 speaker,it’s better then before.and I think with a boost is better when you use jcm. English is not my native language, hope you understand what I say.
🤟👌
You got the gift man. Incredible
And that riff you played at 6:10 with the chorus, is that a song or is it just something you came up with? If it’s a song drop the title!
Killer playing man loving the videos just subscribed
Thanks man!
The intro piece is a song I wrote. I usually write a new song (or a rough idea of a song) for each video and my second solo album ’Shooting From The Hip’ is based on the song clips I’ve ”introduced” first on my YT videos. Red Wolf’s ’Sessions Vol. 1’ - album is also based on these. And the next Cyhra album will most likely have a few songs / ideas from my videos too.
But that at 6:10 was me just noodling some basic chords on the top of my head 😎.
I have a DSL15H and a SD1, should I set up my EQ the same as yours to match the closest sound or will sound a lot different to yours? great video Euge!
I have no idea since the sound comes mostly from players hands but it should be a good starting point 😉. The cabinet, speakers and microphones to capture the sound etc., or the impulse response, plays a huge part in the sound also. A lot more than people usually think.
I always tell people to use their ears and not their eyes when dialing their sound 🎼.
th-cam.com/video/vCxlsdErftk/w-d-xo.html
great sound! what tubes do you have in that amp please?
Thanks! It’s been a while since I did the video and I borrowed the amp from a friend so can’t remember anymore. But if I remember correct I said in the video what the tubes were?
I am quite confused here... as my JCM2000 DSL100 was powered by 4 EL34 tubes.
Someone probably changed the tubes and rebiased it etc. or then Marshall just decided to try something different with this one 😊.
@@EugeValovirta230V I know mine didn't have the tubes changed and rebiased as I got it brand new still in the box...
Hot damn!! That is THE sound! And I noticed that you had the amp volume set to about 5/6.... how did you keep your walls from crumbling down?
Yeah!
With Suhr Reactive Load IR 👌. So the signal goes from the amp’s speaker out to the Suhr and from Suhr to Focusrite audio interface and from there to Logic DAW and I’m monitoring myself with Genelec speakers (connected to the Focusrite) on moderate volume. The cab is there to just look good 😎. The whole signal chain is in the description.
@@EugeValovirta230V I didnt even think of a load box, lol. Everytime I turn my JCM2000 that loud, I leave the room and close the door so that I can play. Hah. But I'll have to try that one. I'm still so behind with the technology accompanying amps.
Yeah the Suhr is awesome! You can crank any amp as loud as F and play at home and / or record in complete silence if you will ’cos there’s headphone out also 😊👍.
@@EugeValovirta230V What the hell?! I had no idea it did all that. Lol. Well I guess ill be making a big investment soon! Thanks as always!
@@dizzyastr989 Yeah it'll be a great investment!
I got a 1923 "85th" combo 50W, so similar ( maybe identical ) to jcm 2000, did you ever checked one out?
I don’t think so. Sorry I’ve played with so many amps that I can’t remember 😎.
Can you do a lesson on that riff you were playing?
Will add to my to do - list 👍😎
Sounds similar to "Tattooed Dancer"!
Same ballpark 😎
At 4.35 is this just the raw sound from the amp? I.e. no additional pedals in front of it?
Can’t remember anymore but I usually say (and show) what I use so 😎.
Hey friend. I love your videos cause I'm a marshall maniac also.Is the dsl capable for modern metal? I'm looking for Hatebreed tone and I'm torn between jvm205h and dsl100hr. Is it possible for you to make a video between these two amps?Which of these two would you prefer?
Hey! I think they both are capable. Especially if you boost them with overdrive.
Unfortunately not possible atm but if I get my hands on those then for sure! 🤘
@@EugeValovirta230V I know you love the jcm 800 barkle but which would you choose? the jvm or the dsl? Everyone says that the dsl doesn't have much gain for modern sound such as the jvm.
@@p.stefmusic4945 If you could find the old British made DSL I'd go with that. IMO it definitely has more than enough gain.
HOw are you recording these amps? are you using microhpones or cab simulation or something else?
Amp -> Suhr Reactive Load IR (Jens Bogren’s IRs mainly) -> Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 -> iMac (Logic) 👌
@@EugeValovirta230V interesting.
love the sound, i would like to know, as a person who plays a fair amount of metal with heavy distorted tones, what do you think are good amps below 500 for these tones? love the videos, your awesome man!
Thanks Ben! I’m not sure if there is any below 500. I mean why anybody would buy amps more expensive if there would be such 😎
But I think you can get a used TSL around 600€ cos for some reason it’s really underestimated amp. At least for now 😉
Marshalls record so dam good! Did you add reverb etc in the DAW?
Indeed!
Can’t remember ’cos it’s been a while since I did this one but usually I add a tiny amount of room rev so that it’d sound as close to the viewer as it sounds to me in the room 👌.
Euge, can you clarify something for me? You aren't actually running a cabinet right? You're using an IR that is software then routing that signal back out to a cab?
I explain all on this one: th-cam.com/video/_2N-GEjzJVk/w-d-xo.html
@@EugeValovirta230V many thanks! Will watch
Cool! 😊👌
Hi what speakers in a 4x12 would you use to get that tone in a jcm 2000 thanks
Marshall 1960BV which comes with Marshall Vintage speakers made by Celestion: th-cam.com/video/xMhlTRTrG58/w-d-xo.html
Would those be the v30?
Marshall Vintage is the OG Vintage speaker which Celestion made / makes just for Marshall and the V30 is Celestion’s ”native” version of that. I prefer the original.
@@EugeValovirta230V is the original less harsh? Smoother?
Yes and more bottom.
What tuning do you use, thanks?
Can’t remember what I used on this one but everything from standard E to Drop Ab. Sounds like Eb on this one.
Sick as shit riff, tone to dream of...
Yeah! Thanks!
dsl vs jvm?
They’re both great amps 👌
The first riff you played 0:19 a couple of times makes me remember the first riff of Ozzy Osbourne - Tattooed Dancer
m.th-cam.com/video/XMWfLzs1N2g/w-d-xo.html
Yeah it’s on the same ballpark so to say 👌😎.
What microphone did you use to record the cabinet?
None since I used the Suhr Reactive Load IR and not the cabinet👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V Wow! Sounds perfect, thanks, now I know what a reactive box is for haha. Greetings from Argentina!
It is! You can crank the amp and play with headphones if you want to and have a great sound 👌.
I thought the JCM2000 DSL came with EL34's. You swapped them for the KT77's?
I borrowed the amp to do the video but yeah they come with EL34s.
Chorus in the front or thru the loop?
In the front on this one if I remember correct. Usually I have it in the front but sometimes in the loop. Whatever is the mood of the day 😎.
Thanks man, love your channel 🤘🤘
You’re welcome. Glad to hear! Thanks!
I’m sorry but when I hear these tones you’re getting from an amp that I own (100w DSL 2000 x 2) I get aroused!!!!! Damn!!! (I’d better close the curtains! Lol) Btw…are you tuned to a dropped Eb with the E string tuned down a whole step? I don’t have a guitar here. I know! Shameless! Lol
No need to be sorry 😁.
I don’t remember what I used on this video and I’m not around a guitar atm 😎. But it sounds like Drop - Db.
@@EugeValovirta230V Thanks, man! I’m inspired!
my god can anyone demo these amps without chugging metal for the whole time?? anyone?
The problem here muchacho is your not using the amp straight. Your using processor effects.. Let's hear the actual AMP Plugged in straight.
Gracias
There’s no post processing except a small amount of stereo reverb so it’d sound more like the viewer would be in the room 👍😊
@@EugeValovirta230V IMPRESSIVE!! 😲
Sounds great 😜🤘
Thanks Frank! It’s all in the fingers as they say 😎
Every one of those others guys trying to run the clean channel with an overdrive wondering why it sounds like shit! Ugh!
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What the fuck is a Wideo?
Video with a W 😁😁😁. Like Shit with C = Schit = Scheiße = Shit 😎. Finnish - German humour. Don’t take it too hard 😂.
Sounds digital to my ear..