i am a punkrock guitarist from germany and i came across a TSL 100 for sale in february this year. i bought it for 560€ ($613 US), which included a full check-up by an amp tech plus a full set of spare preamp and power tubes. i have absolutely no complaints about it, i'm playing unboosted with no effects and what i like the most is the fact that it has this special roughness and spikyness to it that lets this amp come out even next to a very well distorted bass. yet it is true that many amps of the first production years have heat problems which cause the tube board to break and become conductive. this is not only a possible threat to your health and life, it also makes the amp buzz and hum even with your guitar volume turned off. marshall revisioned this model in 2004 or 2005 with new tube boards, so if you want to buy one make sure that you are buying either one of the late productions or one that has been revisioned by a professional tech.
Probier mal einen Boss Metal Core! Gain auf 9 Uhr, also maximal ein Viertel wenn überhaupt. Da kannst du jeden Marshall vergessen! Einfach direkt ins Pult mit dem FX und gut is. Leider gibt es hier keine Bilderübertragung. Ich hab nämlich eins von mir uns Jim, mit dem Pedal in den Händen. Seine Worte: "kind of a monster!". Ehrlich jetzt, teste es mal an.
@@Orschd hab im ersten moment an den MT-2 gedacht, den hätte ich sogar da. muss mal schauen ob ich den ML-2 zu testzwecken rankrieg. fürchte nur, dass das für unseren gesamtsound schon viel zu viel ist, das geht eher so in die rocknrollige richtung. testen werd ichs aber trotzdem.
I’ve played lots of Marshalls over the years. Two years ago I almost randomly bought this TSL100 head with a matching 1960A cab. It was too cheap and I figured I couldn’t lose on it. If I don’t like it, I’ll just sell it again for the same amount of money. I was hesitant, because they seemed to have a bit of a bad reputation. But hell was I wrong. This was the PERFECT MARSHALL sound for me. The cleans are unbelievable, the crunch is just how I like it and the Lead channel had more than I needed, but so good. Two independent fx loops, I couldn’t be happier.
I had a similar situation about 2 years ago, but with a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50. I bought it for the cab but it has become my favorite amp (even over my JVM 410 Satriani model and my EVH EL-34)! I was worried about the bias drift issue I heard about, but no issues whatsoever. I would like if all channels/modes were footswitchable, which got me looking into the TSL.
@@Patrick-857 : So are Mesa Boogie amps. But most guitarists don’t know anything about that. We have the option to choose between thousands of amps and if you can find one you really like for a very good price, that’s what you buy. 🥴
@mariodriessen9740 Well hopefully you have one that doesn't have the issue with conductive boards, because it will begin burning power tubes, and the repair isn't cheap. It's a great sounding amp with serious design flaws.
Hell yeah, Kyle! My first “real half stack” was a TSL60 with 1960a cab about 20 years ago. I really didn’t know what I was doing as far as dialing in a good tone, but I still loved it! I foolishly decided that I wanted a combo amp and I think I traded it i for something stupid like a Fender Hot Rod Deville or something like that. I don’t even remember exactly what I traded it for, but I remember missing the Marshall.
Great vid Kyle. I’ve had the TSL100 for years and love it to bits. Always sounded wicked through a standard 1960a (un-boosted), but now smashing it through an orange 2x12 with a boost for more of a metal tone. The crunch channel is absolutely my fave. Sounds awesome.
I apologize if you have already covered it (and I am going to go look), but man I would love to see you do an episode on the Marshall Valvestate. Especially if you can shoot it out with an Orange Super Crush and or the Peavey Vypyr, that would just be sick.
I love my TSL. They’re great sounding amps. But there should’ve been a class action over so many of the jcm2000 boards becoming conductive. I still love Marshalls but I can’t pretend they didn’t totally dodge a liability bullet and it sucks that consumers had to just eat it with the defective PCBs. I put a rev20 board in mine so the bias is fine now but they should be giving out rev20 boards for free instead of them being 200 bucks. So not only did Marshall not have to deal with a class action, but get to profit off the sale of functional boards that shouldn’t need to exist for amps they already sold for a profit.
I’ve had a few amps, tube, valvestate, and solid state over the last couple of years and my tsl100 is the one I’ve kept gravitating back to and is definitely the keeper out of all of them. Also, along with an od in the front as a boost, I was most blown away when adding an EQ pedal in the effects loop which I would recommend on any amp with the effects loop option. Great review on a phenomenal amp!
I bought mine used for 600€. its a great amp and served me well for many years. Great Clean Sounds also when pushed, very good Crunch Channel, very versatile Amp, that Footswitch is great. I never used the reverb much and I think it sounded much better on the Celestion V30 compared to the Celestion G12. I only was not happy with the Lead Channel and active EMGs on my Guitar. It sounded best with my Gibson LP and SG. As I recently switched to Orange, it is not used anymore. I am selling mine for 500€ now.
The TSL 60W was my first Marshall a few years ago, I play skate and pop punk so with the deep switch on and an overdrive it worked out nicely for the tone I wanted. I currently have a 2000 DSL 100 (but it's out of commission right now) and a JCM 900 High Gain Dual Reverb 50w with 6L6 tubes and the 2000 really gives my the tones I want because of the EL34 tubes and that deep switch, I run it with a Wampler Triumph and 👌
My friends TSL 60 combo sounded absolutely horrible! My early 70's Superleads were crystal clear compared to his extremely dull sounding amp. Different power and preamp tubes did not help his amp at all. Totally honest, no bs...I mean dead, dead, dead sounding. My 900 SLX 100 watt sounds equally as good as my 70's Superleads for a different tube overdrive color!
I played my tsl 60 head and cab along side my friends 70s super lead and yes the clarity and sound of the super lead is special and magical I believe. Kinda bummed me out. But I do like my tsl regardless.
I would leave the JCM900 out of the discussion. Especially the SLX version. I put KT66's in the power section and it absolutely killed. Sure the Dual Reverb version kinda sucked but, the others are great amps. I used my SLX for many years and multiple bands. They are also the only version of the 900 line to use actual preamp tube gain and not diode clipping.
I got a TSL 100 brand new with the cab in 2001 - 2002. I played and toured + rehearsals exclusively with that amp from 2002 until 2009 (Gibson SG - no boost, on the Crunch Channel for Punk/Hardcore), every week + bad treatments on the road, and it never failed, always delivered the guts. And it had rough times! I loved this amp, and I still have it to this day!
Bought mine around the same time, had it 20 years before finally moving it on. Such a workhorse, it just needs some decent volume to come alive. Always wanted to try the mods the guys from Rosetta did to theirs because they absolutely punished their TSLs live and they sounded huge.
Hi Kyle, Just FYI. I have the same amp and I love it. I was watching you toggle the Deep Switch on and off when using the crunch channel. There was no difference in sound because if you look to the right of the reverb control, the Deep switch, Presence, FX Mix and Reverb are assigned to the Clean channel. The Crunch and the Lead channel share the upper controls. Look to the right of the Reverb, it's written. Keep up the great work!
Used a TSL through a 1960TV for a couple of gigs in the mid 2000’s, sounded huge and I wasn’t even boosting it. Great, great amps but I do prefer my current JVM.
Yeah I love my JVM 410. Everything I need for metal and rock in one amp pretty well. I use fender amps for blues since I like that thick saturated drive sound with a tube screamer (or a nice clean jazz/funk tone). Other than that the marshal does everything I want it do.
I have a number of Marshall amps in my collection, a mini jubilee, Jcm2000 DSL 40, Haze 40 and a JCM900 DR 50 watt. I really like the 900 and put it up there with the jubilee. It sounds great in rehearsals and has a lot more gain than needed on the lead channel running it a 6 out of 20 then boosting with a pedal. I find the 2000 to extremely dark and muffled sounding in the lead channels though the green boosted is nice 80’s sound. Also I was at a metal/punk festival the other weekend and the vast majority of bands had 900 dual reverbs in the back line and all sounded great.
@@stallionstudios yep it was the Slamdunk festival, most bands I saw that day were either using 900’s (which I’m sure were a rented and shared backline, as in previous years there was a Kerry King signature 800 in heavy rotation and use) or EVH 5150’s. I was also at Nofx at the same venue the next day and again most of the supports had 900’s
It's funny that this kind of thing happens to you every time with these terrible Marshalls and yet there is evidence of thousands of people getting a better tone out of one than you've ever gotten with any amp on your channel. Maybe tone is in the hands after all. Just bustin' your stones. I watch a lot of your videos. LOL
Do you though? Because I talk about how awesome I think this amp sounds in the video, same with the jcm 900 which is what I'm sure you're referencing here. Lol
Owned many a DSL over the years, lots of low end. The TSL here obviously has more upper mid range than the DSL to my ears. Definitely looking to purchase a TSL.
I picked up a TSL60 head for $400 a couple years ago. I loved it so much, I bought a JCM2000 DSL50 head a week later! The deep switch gives it some huge balls!!!... but the tone shift mode doesn't float my boat. Love them or hate them, the JCM2000's will become a classic and keep going up in price just like the JCM900's did.
Same with the Vintage Modern line. Very under appreciated for what they are, a pre jumpered JTM45 with a master volume and built in boosts. Incredible amps, but they didn’t sell well enough. I’m just mad at how rare they seem to be now.
i played one of these ... loved the lead channel ... dindt like the middle channel as much but these are underapreciated amps... and if you live in europe they are sooooo cheap used
A lot of these amps get a bad rap for weird reasons. The 900 because of the diode clipping (although everyone loves the Jubilee) and I think this one got a bad reputatation simply because it has so many knobs. I've seen people complain about all the controls on Mesas too. Don't go to tgp before you try an amp. Use your ears & go from there. If it sounds good, it is good.
Love my 1997 JCM2000 DSL. Somehow has not failed me yet!! Always wanted to try a TSL, they pop up at Guitar Centers in my area from time to time. Maybe I'll nab one one day.
I have one of these stamps I bought it in like 2005, and everything's great except the foot switch where it plugs in the back the f****** thing is always been f***** from day one I have to like tape it up and f****** wrap around the amplifier head so it won't f****** not work during a gig.. but other than that I love the f****** amp...
Sounds awesome! I don't know if I would have paid the $1,999 (~$3,500 with inflation taken into account) for a brand new one in 1998, but considering how cheap you can get them now I'd say it's a no-brainer.
@@stallionstudios I would definitely choose the JVM410 over the TSL100, but the price difference is pretty significant. The JVM is sooo damn good though. Without a doubt the best of the last original designs from Marshall. I guess that's why it has the longest lasting production run out of all the Marshall amps!
they were £1000-1200 ish (about $1200-1500) in the UK when they were released, so really not too bad over here. To put in perspective a 5150 block was a similar price, and Mesa stuff here would be like 2k for a recto. I guess a lot of it is Import duty. Engls here are similarly priced , where as I understand in the US they are really expensive?
I think the DSL is a decent amp for sure, But the TSL is total dog..... The 900 is more of a clean platform for pedals with a boost ch. Kyle love the channell.......
I often wonder how depressing it must be a Marshall engineer. You work your tail off to make a really great-sounding new amp with tons of features, and everyone on the internet immediately comes out of the woodwork to tell you how terrible it is.... Until after you retire and someone on the internet finds out some amazing album was recorded with it and then it becomes some "sleeper classic" lol
@@adamsteelproducervery true. People like to hate on stuff like the HT series, when I’ve never once plugged into an HT I didn’t get along with almost immediately. People will hate on anything with a solid-state distortion clipping section then unironically throw an OD in front of a tube amp lol
I have the 60 watt version of this amp head and it roars through my JCM900 1960 Cab with G12-HT75s.. can’t wait to watch the video man! I’ve been thinking about them with v30’s so can’t wait!
The tsl 100 is my favorite marshall. My first halfstack was a 4100 over a 1960A that i played unboosted in a metal band for years. The 4100 is very underated. I had the jvm410h thru a 1960A for a couple of years. Its also a great amp, but i missed the tsl the whole time. I played a DSL 100 through 4x12 greenbacks,between the 4100 and the tsl, and absolutely hated it! The DSL i had just farted most of the time and just sounded generally aweful. I have never lpreferred the 800s like every other person on the planet.
Just here to reaffirm my TSL60 purchase a year ago. Glad to see another person enjoying this fantastic amp! I use the walrus audio agës overdrive too!! Modes three and four are where I live. I personally pump mids and cut a little bass and treble. It also makes shelving for bass later in recording easier.
(Personally) in my experience Marshall sounds the best through a Marshall cab rather than mesa. Cool content just found your channel! Makes me wanna do videos!
My personal understanding of why people disliked the JCM 900 and JCM 2000 has nothing to do with the amp really. If you ordered a stack of 900s or 2000s when they were new they came with probably the worst speaker celestion has ever created. The T75. We have 8 marshall heads that were bought as a package from marshall in the late 90's. 4 jcm 900s and 4 jcm 2000s. They all sound like a fizz box from hell with the marshall 1960A cabinets but sound just so much better with the Marshall 1960AV cab.
Thanks Kyle. I remember bands during the Nu-Metal age were crazy for this amp. Glad I have my JVM 410h these days. That thing is a beast and love the crunch channel on that thing (or even the clean on crunch). These still seem like decent amps.
I had a jcm 900 traded it for a custom all white slx played thru a fender 4x12 and the half rack boss pq50 and boss half rack ns50 noise gate. Was in heaven till some piece of shit stole it all. 20 years of collecting later 2018 my house burned down all 15 guitars several heads and everything else I had aquired throughout the years gone! Get good home owner renter insurance if I didn't have good insurance I would have been assed out.
The lead channel is thin, it is designed to cut through the band mix for your lead tone. I rarely use the lead channel for crunch tones, but it can be done. If you want to make the lead channel more beefy, boost the bass, cut the mids, the treble and presence to taste. Then just turn the channel volume back up to get unity gain. Also the tone shift, can be useful for getting a completely different tone on either channel from this beast. Once you engage the tone shift, rebuild the tone from scratch. Tone shift, is very useful for recording tones, that sit well in the mix. Have fun!
Hey so what about the crunch channel? Do you use it for Rythm guitar? Is it better? What if I want a crunch and then go full blasting sound? Should I use a booster? Another overdrive to push the amp?
The crunch channel is excellent and can be used for leads and rythms. I use three different overdives, when i use a TSL live. You can mix and match the overdrives or stack them to get the tones you are looking for. Let me make something clear so no one misunderstands me, there is nothing wrong with the lead channels voicing. Its voicing serves a purpose. I just had to chime in, because there are alot of TSL haters out there. For me, the TSL is Money in the Bank! @@robertgolfetto
I used to have a TSL 60 - thin Is about the furthest word from how I’d describe its tone. I sold it because it wasn’t tight enough with high gain lol. You might say it was too thick lol
Gigging with this amp right now. Doing everything from Sugarloaf and Cream to Royal Blood and other more modern heavier tones. This amp was one I hated when it came out as well, but now it’s doing exactly what I want it too. Going through a Bogner 2x12, and using a DD7 in the FX loop. Sounds great! Clean channel is killer on this amp as well. Great video Kyle! Keep it chugging ! 🎉
@@stallionstudios I love Green Eyed lady, but that’s the only time I want the word loaf in anything! Lmao. When I tried it originally, I wasn’t as good at using the amp to its full potential, and I think it must’ve had that deep switch in. I just remember I was on there for 2 mins and I had enough. Avoided them…..but the situation right now is I’m using my friends TSL and it’s working for me, but I also don’t EQ it like other amps, it has a lot of highs and midrange, so yeah….getting better at EQ’ing and using tube amps to hit full pot I’ll.
I had this amp for about five years ( 2001-2006) and honestly I didn't gel with it. The clean channel is great, high pristine clean and when pushed gives a classic vintage tone that's very usable. The one I had didn't pair well with overdrive pedals on channel one. I tried several pedals and the noise floor hit the bottom, nothing but hiss and extremely loud hum. Now that I think back, it might have had a micro-phonic tube in it somewhere but be cautious. The crunch channel is okay! It gives you that mid-gain dad rock tone with ease. This was my favorite of the drive channels which is ironic for me because I love high gain. The lead channel is most disappointing overall. The tone wasn't the worst but the overall feel & texture is very inhibited. Liquid legato leads where hard to pull off & overall feel is very resistant and lacks sustain. The problem isn't that the amp doesn't have enough gain, it's more about how the amp is voiced. It just lacks mojo. I paired this with a 1960A cab loaded with G12T 75s (stock). I never had pedals in the loop so I can't comment on that. When I plugged my head into another cab my friend had, I remember thinking "this is much better" so the issue could have been my cab. I eventually sold it after trying several other amps, one of which was a JCM 2000 DSL100 and remember thinking "why didn't I buy this instead". The reputation of this amp is well deserved in my opinion. I caution you to try before you buy.😕
I know absolutely nothing about this amp. This is the most I’ve learned about this particular model of Marshall. I’m thinking it’s a little dark sounding but definitely workable! I dig it!
My amp sounds so much different from how this sounds in this video. But I put KT77 and have a mix of Tungsol and JJ8803 preamps tubes going through a 2x12 Orange. Never had a problem with it sounding thin, this thing is a monster
Still deciding between one of these or a Mesa tremoverb. Tremoverb seems like the obvious winner but I keep getting pulled back towards the TSL! Being a 3rd of the price helps a bit 😂
DSL or TSL all the way! Just check the revision of the board and if it needs attention. You can get great deals, especially if you’re willing to deal with one that needs a new PCP. I’ll give you a few more reasons. Way easier to dial in than a Mesa, IMO. Beyond the PCB issues, these are easier to work on than your general Mesa channel switching amp. With the sale of Marshall, these Made in England amps are only going to go up in value. Lastly, it’s a fucking Marshall! It looks cooler (IMO) and has the legacy to back up its aesthetic. Even the non music playing public respects and knows the name.
@@huntergalloway3944 that’s a pretty damn good argument! I’ve seen a few up for sale for such amazing prices recently. Like you said just need to keep an eye on the year for that PCP!
I have this amp for 15 years now. The crunch channel with gain on 9 and a hard boost (ts or sd with max level and a bit of gain) does metal very, very well! Using it this way, you still have the lead channel, with its own volume control, for actual leads. The amp works best with Marshall Celestion Vintage and/or Celestion Vintage 30 speakers. The deep switch is horrible on lower volumes. Makes the amp very boomy and flubby. At home, max the bass on the crunch channel, without the deep switch. In a band setting at higher volume, you can use the deep switch, but then you must lower the bass knob a bit. Tone shift is horrible. Do not use it. The lower power amp setting butchers the tone of the amp. Just avoid it. Last month I finally discovered how the fx loop works without killing volume + tone. The loop only works with buffered pedals which can take line level signals. If you can, set pedal to "kill dry" and level on pedal to max. Use the fx mix knob from parallel loop to mix as little as possible in. This way you can only use 1 pedal (unless you make a parallel loop on your board), but it actually works.
Playing in a hardcore band myself makes me so happy you're all about the chugs and cover both Hatebreed here with this amp and play All Out War at the end ❤
It's a brilliant amp. The clean will break-up and was designed to give a Fender like tone. The 3 channels give a great range.I think it's primarily a Rock amp,not Metal. But it will get there with the right eq settings. Metal bands modified their Marshalls or switched to Mesa Boogie. Metallica being the prime example. All negative reviews of this amp are BS . It must be nearly a vintage amplifier at this stage. I wouldn't part with my one. Good video review 👍
My JCM900 Mkiii 2100 went down for tubes and a buddy let me use his TSL - couldn’t wait for my JCM to get home - maybe it’s just me… didn’t really connect with it.
Dude that Marshall 2000 JCM🎉4200 ? That they couldn’t giveaway for 20 years . I have a 2007 that I will never sell . I prefer the option to play the duck out of it
These are horribly made, the earlier it is the thinner the motherboard is. Apparently Marshall built this amp around a saltine cracker for a motherboard. The rev5/6 boards are super conductive and send you bias running away. Stay away for these DSL/TSLs.
You enjoy the second channel because with less saturation, you get higher dynamics. You always trade one for the other. Finding the good tone is a question of balance between both.
i am a punkrock guitarist from germany and i came across a TSL 100 for sale in february this year. i bought it for 560€ ($613 US), which included a full check-up by an amp tech plus a full set of spare preamp and power tubes. i have absolutely no complaints about it, i'm playing unboosted with no effects and what i like the most is the fact that it has this special roughness and spikyness to it that lets this amp come out even next to a very well distorted bass.
yet it is true that many amps of the first production years have heat problems which cause the tube board to break and become conductive. this is not only a possible threat to your health and life, it also makes the amp buzz and hum even with your guitar volume turned off. marshall revisioned this model in 2004 or 2005 with new tube boards, so if you want to buy one make sure that you are buying either one of the late productions or one that has been revisioned by a professional tech.
Probier mal einen Boss Metal Core!
Gain auf 9 Uhr, also maximal ein Viertel wenn überhaupt. Da kannst du jeden Marshall vergessen! Einfach direkt ins Pult mit dem FX und gut is. Leider gibt es hier keine Bilderübertragung. Ich hab nämlich eins von mir uns Jim, mit dem Pedal in den Händen. Seine Worte: "kind of a monster!".
Ehrlich jetzt, teste es mal an.
@@Orschd hab im ersten moment an den MT-2 gedacht, den hätte ich sogar da. muss mal schauen ob ich den ML-2 zu testzwecken rankrieg. fürchte nur, dass das für unseren gesamtsound schon viel zu viel ist, das geht eher so in die rocknrollige richtung. testen werd ichs aber trotzdem.
You'll know if you have that problem if it starts eating power tubes. It causes bias runaway.
@@atomarerAlfMT2 is the best, it simulates a good tube sound when you push the lows
I’ve played lots of Marshalls over the years. Two years ago I almost randomly bought this TSL100 head with a matching 1960A cab. It was too cheap and I figured I couldn’t lose on it. If I don’t like it, I’ll just sell it again for the same amount of money.
I was hesitant, because they seemed to have a bit of a bad reputation. But hell was I wrong. This was the PERFECT MARSHALL sound for me. The cleans are unbelievable, the crunch is just how I like it and the Lead channel had more than I needed, but so good. Two independent fx loops, I couldn’t be happier.
I had a similar situation about 2 years ago, but with a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50. I bought it for the cab but it has become my favorite amp (even over my JVM 410 Satriani model and my EVH EL-34)! I was worried about the bias drift issue I heard about, but no issues whatsoever. I would like if all channels/modes were footswitchable, which got me looking into the TSL.
Dang I bought one of these for 300 bucks about 6 years ago I love it
They are universally hated by amp techs.
@@Patrick-857 : So are Mesa Boogie amps. But most guitarists don’t know anything about that. We have the option to choose between thousands of amps and if you can find one you really like for a very good price, that’s what you buy. 🥴
@mariodriessen9740 Well hopefully you have one that doesn't have the issue with conductive boards, because it will begin burning power tubes, and the repair isn't cheap. It's a great sounding amp with serious design flaws.
Sean Martin’s fav amp.
This isn’t going to age well being that this is the amp that Nuno Bettencourt uses 😂😂
Hell yeah, Kyle!
My first “real half stack” was a TSL60 with 1960a cab about 20 years ago. I really didn’t know what I was doing as far as dialing in a good tone, but I still loved it! I foolishly decided that I wanted a combo amp and I think I traded it i for something stupid like a Fender Hot Rod Deville or something like that. I don’t even remember exactly what I traded it for, but I remember missing the Marshall.
Great vid Kyle. I’ve had the TSL100 for years and love it to bits. Always sounded wicked through a standard 1960a (un-boosted), but now smashing it through an orange 2x12 with a boost for more of a metal tone. The crunch channel is absolutely my fave. Sounds awesome.
I apologize if you have already covered it (and I am going to go look), but man I would love to see you do an episode on the Marshall Valvestate. Especially if you can shoot it out with an Orange Super Crush and or the Peavey Vypyr, that would just be sick.
I don’t think he has … I think ola has though
Funny thing . I always end up liking all these so called junk Marshall's.
Own a JCM900 High Gain Dual Reverb stack love it...owned the TSL100 head ,hated that amp...maybe it was me but just did not vibe with it at all
I have the tsl60 head and it rips with a metal zone used as an overdrive. Total cannibal corpse territory brutal. 🤘
I love my TSL. They’re great sounding amps. But there should’ve been a class action over so many of the jcm2000 boards becoming conductive. I still love Marshalls but I can’t pretend they didn’t totally dodge a liability bullet and it sucks that consumers had to just eat it with the defective PCBs. I put a rev20 board in mine so the bias is fine now but they should be giving out rev20 boards for free instead of them being 200 bucks. So not only did Marshall not have to deal with a class action, but get to profit off the sale of functional boards that shouldn’t need to exist for amps they already sold for a profit.
My JCM 2000 a dude sold me cheap last year with a cabinet. It needed a PCB board when I bought it. But my tech Dude fixed it up right. 🤘
Do they continue to fail with age ? Considering a second hand one
I’ve had a few amps, tube, valvestate, and solid state over the last couple of years and my tsl100 is the one I’ve kept gravitating back to and is definitely the keeper out of all of them.
Also, along with an od in the front as a boost, I was most blown away when adding an EQ pedal in the effects loop which I would recommend on any amp with the effects loop option.
Great review on a phenomenal amp!
I bought mine used for 600€. its a great amp and served me well for many years. Great Clean Sounds also when pushed, very good Crunch Channel, very versatile Amp, that Footswitch is great. I never used the reverb much and I think it sounded much better on the Celestion V30 compared to the Celestion G12. I only was not happy with the Lead Channel and active EMGs on my Guitar. It sounded best with my Gibson LP and SG. As I recently switched to Orange, it is not used anymore. I am selling mine for 500€ now.
Dude. The tsl rocks.
The TSL 60W was my first Marshall a few years ago, I play skate and pop punk so with the deep switch on and an overdrive it worked out nicely for the tone I wanted. I currently have a 2000 DSL 100 (but it's out of commission right now) and a JCM 900 High Gain Dual Reverb 50w with 6L6 tubes and the 2000 really gives my the tones I want because of the EL34 tubes and that deep switch, I run it with a Wampler Triumph and 👌
My friends TSL 60 combo sounded absolutely horrible! My early 70's Superleads were crystal clear compared to his extremely dull sounding amp. Different power and preamp tubes did not help his amp at all. Totally honest, no bs...I mean dead, dead, dead sounding. My 900 SLX 100 watt sounds equally as good as my 70's Superleads for a different tube overdrive color!
I played my tsl 60 head and cab along side my friends 70s super lead and yes the clarity and sound of the super lead is special and magical I believe. Kinda bummed me out. But I do like my tsl regardless.
I would leave the JCM900 out of the discussion. Especially the SLX version. I put KT66's in the power section and it absolutely killed. Sure the Dual Reverb version kinda sucked but, the others are great amps. I used my SLX for many years and multiple bands. They are also the only version of the 900 line to use actual preamp tube gain and not diode clipping.
The MK3 does as well. The diodes are only doing something if the gain sensitivity is above zero
The hatebreed amp
I got a TSL 100 brand new with the cab in 2001 - 2002. I played and toured + rehearsals exclusively with that amp from 2002 until 2009 (Gibson SG - no boost, on the Crunch Channel for Punk/Hardcore), every week + bad treatments on the road, and it never failed, always delivered the guts. And it had rough times!
I loved this amp, and I still have it to this day!
Bought mine around the same time, had it 20 years before finally moving it on. Such a workhorse, it just needs some decent volume to come alive. Always wanted to try the mods the guys from Rosetta did to theirs because they absolutely punished their TSLs live and they sounded huge.
SG's are the best.
Hi Kyle, Just FYI. I have the same amp and I love it. I was watching you toggle the Deep Switch on and off when using the crunch channel. There was no difference in sound because if you look to the right of the reverb control, the Deep switch, Presence, FX Mix and Reverb are assigned to the Clean channel. The Crunch and the Lead channel share the upper controls. Look to the right of the Reverb, it's written. Keep up the great work!
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Used a TSL through a 1960TV for a couple of gigs in the mid 2000’s, sounded huge and I wasn’t even boosting it. Great, great amps but I do prefer my current JVM.
Yeah I love my JVM 410. Everything I need for metal and rock in one amp pretty well. I use fender amps for blues since I like that thick saturated drive sound with a tube screamer (or a nice clean jazz/funk tone). Other than that the marshal does everything I want it do.
@@stallionstudios same here, my 5150II has been collecting dust since I have it...
I own both. Both are beasts
I love my TSL 60...sound amazing with a boost petal...
I learnt to appreciate the JCM2000 line because of Nile's crushing tones
Elliot Easton used one in 2019 during the Cars Rock n Roll hall of fame performance. He could have any amp he wanted but chose this one.
He played what they had for him because it was a Marshall JCM. It's not like they were trying to get him to play out of some strange, outlier amp.
I have a number of Marshall amps in my collection, a mini jubilee, Jcm2000 DSL 40, Haze 40 and a JCM900 DR 50 watt. I really like the 900 and put it up there with the jubilee. It sounds great in rehearsals and has a lot more gain than needed on the lead channel running it a 6 out of 20 then boosting with a pedal. I find the 2000 to extremely dark and muffled sounding in the lead channels though the green boosted is nice 80’s sound.
Also I was at a metal/punk festival the other weekend and the vast majority of bands had 900 dual reverbs in the back line and all sounded great.
Interesting, thats cool to see that at a metal/punk show. I run a JVM410H which does everything I need and then some.
@@stallionstudios yep it was the Slamdunk festival, most bands I saw that day were either using 900’s (which I’m sure were a rented and shared backline, as in previous years there was a Kerry King signature 800 in heavy rotation and use) or EVH 5150’s.
I was also at Nofx at the same venue the next day and again most of the supports had 900’s
It's funny that this kind of thing happens to you every time with these terrible Marshalls and yet there is evidence of thousands of people getting a better tone out of one than you've ever gotten with any amp on your channel. Maybe tone is in the hands after all. Just bustin' your stones. I watch a lot of your videos. LOL
Do you though? Because I talk about how awesome I think this amp sounds in the video, same with the jcm 900 which is what I'm sure you're referencing here. Lol
@@belligerentamateur Full disclosure, I didn't watch this one...yet. I will though, I promise.
@@belligerentamateur Okay. Mission accomplished. You kinda got me with your trickery.
I had one. it was awesome
“Or your name is Gary” killed me 🤣🤣🤣
Cool demo as always! Love the JCM2000 line!
great amps!
Really badass video on this amp thank you I have always liked the jcm 2000 series amps.
Owned many a DSL over the years, lots of low end. The TSL here obviously has more upper mid range than the DSL to my ears. Definitely looking to purchase a TSL.
Dude that crunch channel DESTROYS, very JCM800-eqsue sounding like you mentioned. This amp is awesome.
I picked up a TSL60 head for $400 a couple years ago. I loved it so much, I bought a JCM2000 DSL50 head a week later! The deep switch gives it some huge balls!!!... but the tone shift mode doesn't float my boat. Love them or hate them, the JCM2000's will become a classic and keep going up in price just like the JCM900's did.
Same with the Vintage Modern line. Very under appreciated for what they are, a pre jumpered JTM45 with a master volume and built in boosts. Incredible amps, but they didn’t sell well enough. I’m just mad at how rare they seem to be now.
i played one of these ... loved the lead channel ... dindt like the middle channel as much but these are underapreciated amps... and if you live in europe they are sooooo cheap used
JCM 2000 DSL is one of my favourites amps ever though.
one of the best sounding amp on your channel!
it's a great one, for sure! I miss it!
The TSL is a wonderful amp. Nice tight distortion and loud as fuck!!
A lot of these amps get a bad rap for weird reasons. The 900 because of the diode clipping (although everyone loves the Jubilee) and I think this one got a bad reputatation simply because it has so many knobs. I've seen people complain about all the controls on Mesas too. Don't go to tgp before you try an amp. Use your ears & go from there. If it sounds good, it is good.
I have a 900 and a tsl 100, they're both awesome!!
Even at this present time it's way more sophisticated than other amps by far
Love my 1997 JCM2000 DSL. Somehow has not failed me yet!!
Always wanted to try a TSL, they pop up at Guitar Centers in my area from time to time. Maybe I'll nab one one day.
I have one of these stamps I bought it in like 2005, and everything's great except the foot switch where it plugs in the back the f****** thing is always been f***** from day one I have to like tape it up and f****** wrap around the amplifier head so it won't f****** not work during a gig.. but other than that I love the f****** amp...
Umm , Dude , chill 🥶 , but I dig the passion .
Kyle, you just reminded me why I should not get rid of my TSL 100.
Sounds awesome! I don't know if I would have paid the $1,999 (~$3,500 with inflation taken into account) for a brand new one in 1998, but considering how cheap you can get them now I'd say it's a no-brainer.
Yeah I see them for 1200 CAD these days. Still happy with my JVM410 purchase. Barely used paid 2K CAD for it.
@@stallionstudios I would definitely choose the JVM410 over the TSL100, but the price difference is pretty significant. The JVM is sooo damn good though. Without a doubt the best of the last original designs from Marshall. I guess that's why it has the longest lasting production run out of all the Marshall amps!
they were £1000-1200 ish (about $1200-1500) in the UK when they were released, so really not too bad over here. To put in perspective a 5150 block was a similar price, and Mesa stuff here would be like 2k for a recto. I guess a lot of it is Import duty.
Engls here are similarly priced , where as I understand in the US they are really expensive?
It ain't a Plexi but I always though the 2000 was solid
I think the DSL is a decent amp for sure, But the TSL is total dog..... The 900 is more of a clean platform for pedals with a boost ch. Kyle love the channell.......
Absolutely nothing wrong with the 900 especially the dual reverb models.
Yea their awesome.
Serious!!! If you can't find a good tone with a 900, go buy yourself a camera and take butterfly pictures. Their awesome.
@@SimonVaillancourtPix they get such a bad rap because of the diode clipping but the tones are absolutely there.
@@StuartBridson And to make their 800 sound, they put a nice overdrive pedal forward, and guess what's inside those pedals! Diode!
@@SimonVaillancourtPix Right?? 🤣🤣🤣 That's actually how I've described the 900 to someone in the past, it's like a fronted 800.
I often wonder how depressing it must be a Marshall engineer. You work your tail off to make a really great-sounding new amp with tons of features, and everyone on the internet immediately comes out of the woodwork to tell you how terrible it is.... Until after you retire and someone on the internet finds out some amazing album was recorded with it and then it becomes some "sleeper classic" lol
This is why they all left right after this amp.
To make Blackstar.
Where they got the exact same crap from people!
@@adamsteelproducervery true. People like to hate on stuff like the HT series, when I’ve never once plugged into an HT I didn’t get along with almost immediately. People will hate on anything with a solid-state distortion clipping section then unironically throw an OD in front of a tube amp lol
I have the 60 w head and i love it 😊
I have the 60 watt version of this amp head and it roars through my JCM900 1960 Cab with G12-HT75s.. can’t wait to watch the video man! I’ve been thinking about them with v30’s so can’t wait!
Hey my name is Gary dammit and I'm going to stay and watch this crap till the end haha
"Even worse than the JCM 900" The JCM 900 was great considering it was a Marshall.
Helps to watch the video before commenting 😉
The tsl 100 is my favorite marshall. My first halfstack was a 4100 over a 1960A that i played unboosted in a metal band for years. The 4100 is very underated. I had the jvm410h thru a 1960A for a couple of years. Its also a great amp, but i missed the tsl the whole time.
I played a DSL 100 through 4x12 greenbacks,between the 4100 and the tsl, and absolutely hated it! The DSL i had just farted most of the time and just sounded generally aweful.
I have never lpreferred the 800s like every other person on the planet.
I loved better the Crunch Channel with my 2000' Gibson SG with the stock pickups and No Boost than the Lead Channel for Punk Hardcore !!
This amp sounds incredible. I had the DSL and I remember digging it. But this sounds incredible.
pretty sure hatebreed uses the tsl1000 and they make it sound great live
Just here to reaffirm my TSL60 purchase a year ago. Glad to see another person enjoying this fantastic amp!
I use the walrus audio agës overdrive too!! Modes three and four are where I live. I personally pump mids and cut a little bass and treble. It also makes shelving for bass later in recording easier.
I tried a TSL when I had a DSL and 6505 and it felt thin and lacked aggression
Sounds ok on here though I’ve got to say
(Personally) in my experience Marshall sounds the best through a Marshall cab rather than mesa. Cool content just found your channel! Makes me wanna do videos!
This is the hatebreed amp
Bro one of the best Marshalls out there.
Said it before and I'm saying it again no such thing as a bad Marshall
Kicks in Walrus…
“Doooooooooooooode”
If that isn’t a seal of approval I don’t know what is 😄
My JCM 2000 DSl 100 watt with Mudkiller. I love it with my Rev G Triple Rec too.
My personal understanding of why people disliked the JCM 900 and JCM 2000 has nothing to do with the amp really. If you ordered a stack of 900s or 2000s when they were new they came with probably the worst speaker celestion has ever created. The T75. We have 8 marshall heads that were bought as a package from marshall in the late 90's. 4 jcm 900s and 4 jcm 2000s. They all sound like a fizz box from hell with the marshall 1960A cabinets but sound just so much better with the Marshall 1960AV cab.
Thanks Kyle. I remember bands during the Nu-Metal age were crazy for this amp. Glad I have my JVM 410h these days. That thing is a beast and love the crunch channel on that thing (or even the clean on crunch). These still seem like decent amps.
i thought mesa rectifiers were sought out by nu-garbage bands.
My JCM900 was awesome. I have loved most that I’ve heard.
I had a jcm 900 traded it for a custom all white slx played thru a fender 4x12 and the half rack boss pq50 and boss half rack ns50 noise gate. Was in heaven till some piece of shit stole it all. 20 years of collecting later 2018 my house burned down all 15 guitars several heads and everything else I had aquired throughout the years gone! Get good home owner renter insurance if I didn't have good insurance I would have been assed out.
I just got my Atla last week and for the life of me I don't understand why Marshall didn't go this route.
Are there even Tube amps that really sucks? Nowadays i doubt it.
The Mass of the Fermenting Dregs do use a JCM900 or the JCM2000 with a Strat and pedals like the EQD Hoof, and they sound great.
The lead channel is thin, it is designed to cut through the band mix for your lead tone. I rarely use the lead channel for crunch tones, but it can be done. If you want to make the lead channel more beefy, boost the bass, cut the mids, the treble and presence to taste. Then just turn the channel volume back up to get unity gain. Also the tone shift, can be useful for getting a completely different tone on either channel from this beast. Once you engage the tone shift, rebuild the tone from scratch. Tone shift, is very useful for recording tones, that sit well in the mix. Have fun!
Hey so what about the crunch channel? Do you use it for Rythm guitar? Is it better? What if I want a crunch and then go full blasting sound? Should I use a booster? Another overdrive to push the amp?
The crunch channel is excellent and can be used for leads and rythms. I use three different overdives, when i use a TSL live. You can mix and match the overdrives or stack them to get the tones you are looking for. Let me make something clear so no one misunderstands me, there is nothing wrong with the lead channels voicing. Its voicing serves a purpose. I just had to chime in, because there are alot of TSL haters out there. For me, the TSL is Money in the Bank! @@robertgolfetto
I used to have a TSL 60 - thin Is about the furthest word from how I’d describe its tone. I sold it because it wasn’t tight enough with high gain lol. You might say it was too thick lol
I’ve got the 1993 JCM 900 SL-X. Its better than my 1986 JCM 800. I would challenge anyone with any amp.
İ hear nothing wrong
Gigging with this amp right now. Doing everything from Sugarloaf and Cream to Royal Blood and other more modern heavier tones. This amp was one I hated when it came out as well, but now it’s doing exactly what I want it too. Going through a Bogner 2x12, and using a DD7 in the FX loop. Sounds great! Clean channel is killer on this amp as well. Great video Kyle!
Keep it chugging ! 🎉
Sugarloaf sounds funny. What do you think changed, your perception, better at Equing amps or just sounds different over time???
@@stallionstudios I love Green Eyed lady, but that’s the only time I want the word loaf in anything! Lmao.
When I tried it originally, I wasn’t as good at using the amp to its full potential, and I think it must’ve had that deep switch in. I just remember I was on there for 2 mins and I had enough. Avoided them…..but the situation right now is I’m using my friends TSL and it’s working for me, but I also don’t EQ it like other amps, it has a lot of highs and midrange, so yeah….getting better at EQ’ing and using tube amps to hit full pot I’ll.
I had this amp for about five years ( 2001-2006) and honestly I didn't gel with it. The clean channel is great, high pristine clean and when pushed gives a classic vintage tone that's very usable. The one I had didn't pair well with overdrive pedals on channel one. I tried several pedals and the noise floor hit the bottom, nothing but hiss and extremely loud hum. Now that I think back, it might have had a micro-phonic tube in it somewhere but be cautious. The crunch channel is okay! It gives you that mid-gain dad rock tone with ease. This was my favorite of the drive channels which is ironic for me because I love high gain. The lead channel is most disappointing overall. The tone wasn't the worst but the overall feel & texture is very inhibited. Liquid legato leads where hard to pull off & overall feel is very resistant and lacks sustain. The problem isn't that the amp doesn't have enough gain, it's more about how the amp is voiced. It just lacks mojo.
I paired this with a 1960A cab loaded with G12T 75s (stock). I never had pedals in the loop so I can't comment on that. When I plugged my head into another cab my friend had, I remember thinking "this is much better" so the issue could have been my cab. I eventually sold it after trying several other amps, one of which was a JCM 2000 DSL100 and remember thinking "why didn't I buy this instead". The reputation of this amp is well deserved in my opinion. I caution you to try before you buy.😕
Thinking about buying one now! Would love to see a Valvestate video ;)
As a long-time DSL player, my impression of the TSL was always "why don't you just get a JVM?"
The Tsl is decent but I do prefer the dsl
I know absolutely nothing about this amp. This is the most I’ve learned about this particular model of Marshall. I’m thinking it’s a little dark sounding but definitely workable! I dig it!
My amp sounds so much different from how this sounds in this video. But I put KT77 and have a mix of Tungsol and JJ8803 preamps tubes going through a 2x12 Orange. Never had a problem with it sounding thin, this thing is a monster
Tsl absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you tube screamer and or bb pre amp in front, you will get the best sound ever heard on earth 🌎 :)
I had the tsl60 and I loved it.
Still deciding between one of these or a Mesa tremoverb. Tremoverb seems like the obvious winner but I keep getting pulled back towards the TSL! Being a 3rd of the price helps a bit 😂
DSL or TSL all the way! Just check the revision of the board and if it needs attention. You can get great deals, especially if you’re willing to deal with one that needs a new PCP.
I’ll give you a few more reasons.
Way easier to dial in than a Mesa, IMO.
Beyond the PCB issues, these are easier to work on than your general Mesa channel switching amp.
With the sale of Marshall, these Made in England amps are only going to go up in value.
Lastly, it’s a fucking Marshall! It looks cooler (IMO) and has the legacy to back up its aesthetic. Even the non music playing public respects and knows the name.
@@huntergalloway3944 that’s a pretty damn good argument! I’ve seen a few up for sale for such amazing prices recently. Like you said just need to keep an eye on the year for that PCP!
I have this amp for 15 years now. The crunch channel with gain on 9 and a hard boost (ts or sd with max level and a bit of gain) does metal very, very well! Using it this way, you still have the lead channel, with its own volume control, for actual leads.
The amp works best with Marshall Celestion Vintage and/or Celestion Vintage 30 speakers.
The deep switch is horrible on lower volumes. Makes the amp very boomy and flubby. At home, max the bass on the crunch channel, without the deep switch. In a band setting at higher volume, you can use the deep switch, but then you must lower the bass knob a bit.
Tone shift is horrible. Do not use it.
The lower power amp setting butchers the tone of the amp. Just avoid it.
Last month I finally discovered how the fx loop works without killing volume + tone. The loop only works with buffered pedals which can take line level signals. If you can, set pedal to "kill dry" and level on pedal to max. Use the fx mix knob from parallel loop to mix as little as possible in. This way you can only use 1 pedal (unless you make a parallel loop on your board), but it actually works.
I had this amp in '98 Absolute monster. Would shake the beams of the house on volume 3. Dumbest thing I did was sell it.
I love the way they sound. Them PCB issues thoooo (encountered one that an owner never had warrantied)
Playing in a hardcore band myself makes me so happy you're all about the chugs and cover both Hatebreed here with this amp and play All Out War at the end ❤
Just listened to this compared to your DSL20h video. This is a lot darker and less fizzy, much prefer this vs the newer model.
This thing sounds gnarley
Conductive boards causing runaway bias. Modern amps that aren't trash are few and far between.
❤ JCM 2000
It's a brilliant amp. The clean will break-up and was designed to give a Fender like tone. The 3 channels give a great range.I think it's primarily a Rock amp,not Metal. But it will get there with the right eq settings.
Metal bands modified their Marshalls or switched to Mesa Boogie. Metallica being the prime example. All negative reviews of this amp are BS .
It must be nearly a vintage amplifier at this stage. I wouldn't part with my one.
Good video review 👍
Sweet! Killing it still!!! When are we getting a mic shootout video?! 57, 421, etc.
I have a Mr Scary Mod on my JCM 2000 DSL and it’s a sick amp.
I REALLY need a review of the Marshall Mode Four head !!!
My JCM900 Mkiii 2100 went down for tubes and a buddy let me use his TSL - couldn’t wait for my JCM to get home - maybe it’s just me… didn’t really connect with it.
Dude that Marshall 2000 JCM🎉4200 ? That they couldn’t giveaway for 20 years . I have a 2007 that I will never sell . I prefer the option to play the duck out of it
A tsl60 was my first amp, think it was from the first year…It absolutely came to life with some nos tubes…Damn, need to get it fixed
These are horribly made, the earlier it is the thinner the motherboard is. Apparently Marshall built this amp around a saltine cracker for a motherboard. The rev5/6 boards are super conductive and send you bias running away. Stay away for these DSL/TSLs.
You enjoy the second channel because with less saturation, you get higher dynamics. You always trade one for the other. Finding the good tone is a question of balance between both.