MARSHALL JCM2000 TSL100 | Killer Amp from Clean to Chug.
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Timecodes:
- Intro: 0:00
- The TSL Song: 0:11
- Noodling: 3:25
- General info: 5:15
- Gear & signal chain: 6:05
- The amp: 8:58
- Crunch channel: 10:20
- Compared to JCM800: 14:10
- Lead channel: 15:51
- Compared to 5150: 18:58
- Clean channel: 22:33
- Conclusion: 25:58
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This has been my go to amp for 15 years now
Since 1999 for me.
Since march 26th 2024 and traded a guitar for a 2005 tsl100 and I don't even own a 4x12 to play it through yet. It sat in a guys studio for 19 years and I look at it as owning a piece of history. Planning on renting different 4x14 cabs to see what I want to pair it with. Any cab suggestions are welcome? Thanks euge for getting me to the tsl100 party.
I've had my TSL 100 since October 2000. I got the board updated last year. It does everything I ask of it. I've never wanted a different amp. 🤘🤘
Thanks, Euge, for sharing those TSL videos! After watching them, I stumbled upon a practically free TSL60 2004 in absolute mint condition, complete with the manual, original box, footswitch, and more. Based solely on your videos, I decided to grab it. Honestly, I'm baffled by some of the opinions I've seen on forums over the past 25 years. This amp performs incredibly well in every setting. While I primarily produce electronic music, I do own a Triple Rec and a 5150, so I have a good sense of what a quality amp sounds like, and this one definitely impresses.
Awesome video. Loved that intro song!!!
Thanks!
That song is crazy man, I love it. Have a nice day!
Thanks! Likewise!
\m/ man....brilliant amp, amazing sounds....JCM2000 TSL is such an underrated amp....thanks to you vids I managed to get fantastic tunes out of it...keep it up!!
Great to hear! Thanks!
This is by far my favorite amp in your collection. High gain beast with a sweet side. Cheers
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You are my favourite guitarist to watch. Delicious music , great tone!
Wow, thanks!
Right on , i have several other amps brought one of these recently its a fantastic amp, clean channel is right up there with the best off them
Yeah!
Thanks for making this video. The TSL-100 does rock! I swapped out my main board for a Rev 20 board and fixed the bias drift issue that mine had developed. But, even when the bias was drifting, it still sounded awesome. I like that everyone sleeps on the TSL, but have a feeling that the secret is out now. Rock on!
Thanks! 😎🕺
....and just because of this video, today I just acquired JCM2000 TSL100 from 2006. Never meant to, but strange things happen. Thanks man!
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I think the reason they are overlooked is so many owners had problems with them blowing up.
I had the JCM 2000 DSL100 and it blew up really bad. Some problem with the curcuit board causing a short that made stuff burn out. Early TSL amps had the same issue. After a few years Marshall revised the PCB and made the new curcuit board available to amp techs for repairs. Mine was fixed by the tech cutting the faulty PCB traces and hand wiring that part of the curcuit. I do not know what year DSL or TSL has the updated and more reliable PCB. I do see plenty of early ones for sale that say the board was replaced though. Once the early ones get the new PCB they are rock solid (it's an expensive fix though, especially if it blew the tubes and output transformer like mine).
P.S. I traded the DSL100 in as a deposit on a Marshall 1959RR. The limited edition Randy Rhoads head in white tolex. It blew a week after I picked it up. Damage was so bad they gave me a refund. :(
As always, amazing guitar playing and excellent sound.
Wow, thanks!
Having video demos with killer guitar players changes it all... and Euge is a badass guitarist... at the end big part of the tone comes from guitarist fingers, not from gear, right?
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I could never get mine to sound quite as bright without an eq pedal in the effects loop.
I bought it a couple years ago and just realized it is a 1999 build so I have a tech redoing everything that would need to be done to update/upgrade. Could be months before I get it back but will be well worth the wait.
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side note to my question: for anyone who hates the 5 button foot switch; ive soldered a 5 pin din to a short cable that runs guitar jack into female 1/4 inch. Now I can at least use the marshal with any foot switch, clean & dirty (chose your crunch or lead, but cant do both). On a side note, the reverb will be stuck on, so you have to do some additional soldering inside the 5 pin din, so the the reverb stays off. This works for me, as I use 5 cable method with floor board for fx anyways.
I got one of the last units ever made, from the last week of October 2010 it was unit #3 on that year it looks clean and sounds just as amazing!
Cool!
i like what you said at the end, it is about the player. Trust me bro this amp is GREAT
I got one of these one they first came out in 1999. Great amps with a lot of usable features.
DSL / TSL is super underrated IMO. It (maybe?) sounds a bit like some of the good amps from the 90's blended back with a modded 800 (the - kind of - origin of those 90's amps). It's unique but familiar as well. Great amp. And yeah that clean channel is great. Also that song is great, really enjoyable
👌🤟 Thanks!
Still have it since 2008 ❤
Man I had a TSL60 and I miss it. The only problem I had with it and my DSL 100 was that they were always in the shop getting fixed!!
What issues were you having?
@@jaboozled I’d break the plastic input by bumping it with my hip while walking by, or a random resistor would burn up. Had a bad output transformer too. Sounded great though!
@@JackStolz dang, sounds like maybe not worth the headache unless previous owner has already replaced the pcb / had the issues fixed.
Käyttäsin tätä kasarimetalliin ja klassikkorokkiin. Hyvä vehe 😀 Hyvää soittoa oli taas ja hyvä video 🤘
Kiitos Atte!
Dude I love this song that you made for this video!!! Fucking awesome 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Thanks man! And it’s you on drums! 😎
The TSL 100s are fabulous sounding for the price they are... As with any used equipment, a tech can verify and resolve a best sound if needed... Great review...
Still love my TSL. Had to do the pcb replacement and I’ve since replaced the output transformer with a Hammond. The clean channel is incredible. Crunch channel is awesome. I hate the footswitch and wish it had midi capability but that’s about my only gripe. If you can find one cheap like I did at the pawn shop and replace the board, this amp is better sounding than a lot of others on the market currently, provided you are able to turn the master past 10 o’clock which is really loud. Below that you won’t be that thrilled with the sound, you have to run these loud or use an attenuator but that’s just how Marshall’s are.
Isn’t that a big issue though? I imagine people aren’t buying amps with the plan to replace the pcb, fix bias drift, fix speaker jack grounding issues, etc? I guess it makes sense if it’s a really good deal. Otherwise, I wonder if something like the JCM900 SLX is better value. Is 10 o’clock gig volume? Any idea if these have a cathode follower (to accept a Mr scary mod)?
Edit: I wonder how these amps compare to the 2210/2205 (87 or later models).
I had this exact head and it was the best amp I have ever played or owned. Regret selling it. Will own again in the future
he TSL100 as been on my wish list for a long time, but i've there are issues with certain years and you actually brought it up, thought it was something bigger than that, like certain DSL's where you needed to change the board.
The dsl and tsl 100s share the same main board and have the same conductivity problems before rev 20. I got mine for cheap because the board was bad. I replaced it and it’s been great since.
Oh hell yeah! Vastly underrated. Everyone whines about the PCB bias issue, however, the fix is easy.
I also upgraded mine with Mercury Dynamics PT/OT and the amp never sounded better!
sounds great. the LED on the phase 90 is so bright you can see it from space .
I've loved this amp... bites seems a jvm410 (not the softer Js version)😮 like it a lot!
Now, after this killer track, let's finish the video 😅 love it Euge!🎉
Glad to hear thanks!
Ripping song, mate!!! 🤘 I preferred the TSL over the DSL. I'd get another TSL at some point. Thank you as always!
Thanks!
Love the song! 🤘🏻 when is the new solo album coming out?
Thanks! It will be officially announced in the near future 🤟.
My Folkesson modded DSL still kicks all other amps I have like EVH, Peavey, Engl, Mesa. I use Custom sd-1 with volume at 12 no tone or dist into a Gridslammer into the crunch channel. Its also the cheapest of my amps! :)
Tsl100, Jvm410h and the bad boy are the holy grail of high gain amps for me!
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That sounds sick AF.
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Awesome video and amazing playing! The high gain riffs had me totally convinced already to buy another TSL but the clean Strat put it over the top and justified continuing my search for the right one. I had previously bought another used one about 6 months ago from ‘99 that needed too much work but I was able to get a feel for some of what you described in your videos before re-homing it. I just found a 2011 that’s in exceptional shape for the same price to pair with my JVM410H. Do you still have the Mr.Scary mod in your TSL?
Thanks! Sometimes I have it, sometimes I don’t. Currently I don’t.
Not Fair Euge! Sounds to good! :) 🤪🤟🎸
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Have that same amp but always seen bad inputs about it, even if for me it sounded killer. I have other top guitar amps over here and it's getting dust since several years... but thanks to you Euge and thanks to this video I guess I definitely should revisit it. It competes with the JCM 800 in a good way, not the same amp tone of course but it gets in the same nasty ballpark like those old 2203. Did you tested the JCM900 high gain dual reverb? Didn't find it in your channel... have that one also over here getting dust and just wondering if it can be revived again. Thanks so much for posting this valuable content Euge!!
💪🤟. I haven’t. Glad to hear man! Thanks!
Kool Euge and his rock n roll style is a real heavyweight title bout for metal marshall playing that only he seems to win at everytime.. rock n roll Euge ! Your the champion of champions !!! ✌️ A TITANS GIANT SOUND.....hitting those mashing metal notes harder than Thors hammer. ..
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Ole hyvä 😎
@@EugeValovirta230VI see it's said like ola ( huva.) Ke ee tos once more Euge .. I love these cool words of your language and dialect especially . ✌️
Definitely sounds good if you have enough Euge at the input ;-)
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Marshall, Best Amp ever 🤗
I like to turn the tone shift on and turn the mids up. It’s definitely not classic 800, but it’s an awesome sound for death metal in my opinion. Of course you gotta boost it, but it rips.
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Hi Euge, I was wondering... do you offer reamp services? Could be amazing sending you a DI and having the sound of your amazing rig. Cheers mate
Yes. Please send me an email: www.eugevalovirta.com/contact
Killer amp!
Do you have experience with a 2210/2205 from 1987 or later? I watched your older 2210 video, but I think that was one of the earlier revisions with channel bleed, fuzzy sound, etc. Apparently they fixed these issues in 1987.
Can’t remember. Sorry 😎.
Awesome channel and playing Euge. I have a TSL100 and it had the old problematic PCB board. I did the Dr. Tube Bias mod and it fixed the issue. Then, I decided to order and install the Issue 20 board and will just keep the original board as a spare. Problem is, mine sounds nothing like yours. I'm talking about the gritty, gainy crunch on the chugs. The clean channel sounds amazing but the crunch and lead channels are very thin compared to what I hear from yours. I run an SD1 as well but yours has a thicker, crunchier sound w/o the SD1 than mine with the SD1. I know the tone is in the hands of the player and I wouldn't qualify to hold your guitar pick but I'm talking just simple down picking chugs. I'm just a bedroom player tone chaser but if my TSL sounded as mean as yours, my tone search would be over. Does anyone know of a reputable amp tech in the southern U.S. I can have take a look at it and see what's up? Thanks.
Thanks!
Tubes and especially preamp tubes has some part in the sound. I like JJ 12AX7 / ECC83s and JJ power tubes the most with all of my amps so I’d first swap all the preamp tubes to JJs without doing anything else. I’ve found out that many times that’s enough if the amp feels a bit ”off”.
Now i want to buy a TSL 100. :D
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I was thinking, does the TSL100 really need the sd-1? It's icing on the cake for every rig.
It is 😎💪.
Hello.
When the master volume of the clean channel is set to 0, does the amplifier mute 100% or does some sound still come out?
No sound then.
What about the Jcm 2000 601?????
wow, right now I am really torn between TSL60 and JVM 205H, i dont know which one to purchase. they are both used in similar price range. First i wanted the JVM but now.... i dont know :D
I have this very amp for sale on Reverb so check it out if you’re interested 👌: reverb.com/item/80343510-marshall-jcm-2000-tsl-100-triple-super-lead-3-channel-100-watt-guitar-amp-head-2005-black?
So what company do you use for fight cases Euge?
Transit Case, Hypocase, Pelican, Quantum Industries, John Dixon to name a few.
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks
Strange that SoftTube didn’t model this beast…
It was my first amp ever, I still regret it at times. 🤷
💚Hey man. Sounds like you may be from Finland. Im Helsinki area. A couple days ago, I tried to use the Emulated Line out XLR of my TSL. It sounds like ass. Problem is, that Libe out doesnt include the power stage, nor the presence knob. So what the heck? The xlr out is missing half the amps sound. Basically it sounds like a can of bees that needs to be corrected with an impulse response. Since it says that its supposed to mimic like a cab, wouldnt it mean that its already adding an “impulse”? So if I put it into an impulse, arent I now having “2 cab IR”? It sounds phasy now into the DAW. To add to the shit mix, Im running 4 cable method. So now im introducing the effect loop, which seems to sound phasey also, even fully cranking the knob into “series mode”, if you know about the amp, its supposed to run parallell in the loop until fully on, it goes to series. But when its fully on Zero, I can still hear fx bleed quietly underneath. Whatever the case, even without the fx pedal in the loop, so just the amp, that clr out sounds like ass. I CAN use my egnater, which its clr out sounds hella smoother, how ever, the eggnater xlr out, or actually the egnater itself, is a lot more airy anyways, compared to the marshall. The marshall has a punch that I want to record. So basically, can you mess around with you xlr out on the TSL, and tell me if yours also sounds like ass? I have had a guy in town fix my bias drift red plate issue, so I am aware of the issues you have faced. But I need a work around to directly record the tsl. Yes I use the Vintage cab as well, and would rather mic the cab; but I just moved to a small place and cant crank up. If need be, youre welcome to A/B yours & mine.
I’m Finnish but haven’t lived there in over a decade. I’ve never tried that so no idea. Sorry 🤷♂️😎.
@@EugeValovirta230VOk, Thanks for responding. Would be interesting to see if yours sounds good or bad, & what you can do with that. But I understand, you aim for the real deal🤙🏼
In my experience those always sounds bad no matter the amp. Or at least compared to a real miked cab.
what drums are these? the mix sounds sick
Thanks! Yamaha kit from SD3 and multi-outs to Logic with full bleed and zero processing and I just mixed it like I mix real drums. Mainly it’s SSL 4000 E channel strip with a Pultec here and there and my outboard reverbs (Lexicon MPX1’s Tiled Room, Yamaha REV100 as a plate and Tegeler Raumzeitmaschine as a room ambience). Parallel comp is SSL G-Bus.
Great stuff mate cheers, sounds great
Hey Euge, quick question. What is going to happen to amp techs? I imagine most people that know their shit are old and either retired or on the verge of retirement. I don’t know many 20 year olds that are into amp repair, or electronic repairs in general, since everything is becoming computerized (modeled).
My 2 cents is; my amp tech is “overqualified”. Meaning, his degree, or whatever can give him way more work than just amps. So, with that said, if you “over school” yourself, the modellers wont put you out of business…
I know quite a few young electronic engineers that are really good and keeps getting better so it is, and will be, all just fine.
Привет! Звук очень хорош, но возможно надо заиметь уже MESA BOOGIE RECTIFIER? Попробовать от этого оттолкнуться? Может это ужасное предложение)))
I don’t care Rectos that much. I’m more of a Marshall & 5150 guy.
Looks like you maybee consider to have a Marshall ?
No 😁.
I never had a TSL but I do have a 2000 dsl. It has had the absolute snot modded out of it, but bone stock these jcm2000 amps really rip.
Played one of these at GC probably 10 years ago and loved it. It was like $699 and like an idiot, I didn't buy it.
You can still find these out there for very good prices. The DSL's have gone up a little bit over the last few years, as they are deemed more desirable, but even they can still be had at great prices used!
Had mine since 96, it has had a rev 20 board. I get fed up with people kicking this amp. Massively versatile in my opinion
Indeed 🎼👌💪
we got a time traveller over here
Fabulous amp just too unreliable, the valves are mounted wrong on the pcb causes loads of problems
Interesting. My 06 TSL100 still hasn’t had any issues
E sharp or D flat? 😕 Did you mean E flat or D sharp? I could never have the justification to spend that kind of money for an amp like these. Too many other things going on.
Eb / D# standard and drop tuning from that which is drop-Db / C#.
TSL or DSL? And why?
Says TSL in the title? @_@
TSL = Triple Super Lead = three channels. DSL = Dual Super Lead = two channels. That’s why.
@@EugeValovirta230V so you prefer the TSL over the DSL because of the extra channel? Or do you think it sounds better?
Both do the job just fine. I’ve done many tours & shows with both and can’t remember much difference except the clean channel on the TSL is one of the best there is.